Josh Allen had his way with the Miami defense, throwing for 3 TD’s and rushing for another. Allen threw for 256 yards hitting on 21 of 33 passes and rushed for 56 yards and a TD. Jakeem Grant did his best to keep the Dolphins in the game, busting off a 101 yard kickoff kick return to make it 23-14 before the half. Fitzpatrick threw the ball 45 times because the Dolphins simply couldn’t run the ball. Ballage continues to underwhelmed gaining just 9 yards on 9 carries although to be fair, he was met in the backfield on at least half of those carries the Bill’s defense just smothered our run game. This is the type of game where Fitzpatrick usually has either 4 TD’s or 4 INT’s, but surprisingly he finished with zero in both statistical categories. The O-line just didn’t show well, and our offense was hindered all day.
DeVante Parker had another good dayfinishing with 7 catches for 135 yards. With Preston William’s done for the season, both Parker and Allen Hurns will be the beneficiaries. In fact, the Dolphins signed WR Allen Hurns to a 2 year contract extension. TE Mike Gesicki was not a big part of the offense yesterday catching only 4 passes for 18 yards. Patrick Laird caught 6 passes for 51 yards and added 1 carry for 7 yards.
The defense was without LB Raekwon McMillan and also DE Taco Charlton. The defense looked out of sorts, although the kids in the defensive backfield continue to give strong effort. These guys like Nik Needham and Ken Crawley and Jomal Wiltz and Eric Rowe are all gamers,and even if they don’t start next year, they seem like high character guys that are good to have around.
The Bill’s are 7-3 and one of the better teams in the AFC. Devin Singletary is starting to get rolling and to have future hall of Famer Frank Gore to lean on doesn’t hurt either. They’re a better team than we are right now, but we played straight up with the them for a while in both games, with more talent infused next season, we should close the gap. There’s hope, you still see good things each week, and despite being undermanned, this team has fight in it.
GO DOLPHINS!!
#staythecourse
Finsmob Unleashed 
I’m gonna go get the paper, the paper. LOL
I typed this damn thing on my tablet, my keyboard is toast? My fault, I cleaned it yesterday, it’s clean as hell but my space bar and delete key goners
That sucks!
LOL — my better half cleaned my key board a couple weeks ago. Was all proud of it after pointing out how dirty it was. A week after she asks “why do you have that knife on your desk?” My answer was “to fix the space bar… it started sticking recently for some reason.” Not a word back, but from the look on her face knew she knew. 🙂
Yeah, not a great move on my part. It worked yesterday, but it ain’t working today. I guess I need a new keyboard
Thanks Mike E.
Yesterday’s game reinforced all I need to know what the Dolphins’ focus needs to be and has needed to be for quite some time.
Can we please make OL a priority next year for the benefit of the entire team”s success? That includes success for any QB, any RB, and the defense.
I don’t care how, combo draft and FA might be nice. This should be a no brainer.
OL is what it needs to be. Has to at least be one stud in FA and another in the first. Plus some others. But lots of chips to play with.
And of course, winning!
Nice write Mike E….. and yeah we ain’t far off from the Bills with more to come.
Parker, Hurns, Williams, Grant and Wilson all on board for next year. Seems one thing we don’t have to worry about. Not such a bad WR posse.
It amazed me how many TFL and just hits in the backfield and hammered at QB before barely before the ball got there. The OL was completely overwhelmed time and again. I had to stop watching.
Looked up for a Grant run back. Awesome.
The OL was so bad….you can’t possibly think a rookie or a Rosen-type could ever LEARN or succeed in that kind of setting.
This is a headline of one of Mando’s articles that I don’t even feel like reading. But seriously, Mando?
“Brian Flores says Ryan Fitzpatrick was part of the problem Sunday. But he’s wrong”
Thanks….for the heads up. Lol.
Just saw the news on Tua. Typically, a dislocated hip does not require surgery. I know, mine right one was dislocated in 1998 and it was over an hour or more before they put back under anesthesia. It hurt likes fuck with the slightest movement.
He had additional posterior acetabulum damage…where the hip bone sits. I say he too fragile to survive the NFL.
4 serious injuries in last three years. Risk is too high for any 1 or 2 round pick based medical history alone.
We need a team of picks (all hits) next draft.
Well, that post was mildly illiterate. Hope it was clear somehow.
Albert Wilson didn’t have surgery on his hip from last year’s injury but it seems to be slow road back to where he was.
The surgery in this case is not because of the dislocation, it’s the additional damage done to the hip joint. Also, not all joints are created equal in the body or from person to person.
Also, rehab, conditioning, flexibility, are vital aspects of the healing process, and many different views.
I was told I would have a limp and be in pain the rest of my life. Not so as I took my rehab, conditioning, and flexibility serious, non-allopathic.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/tua-tagovailoa-injury-surgeons-expert-insight-on-dislocated-hip-surgery-rehab-future-outlook-and-more/amp/
Several thoughts…zero gravity = passive ROM. This will be key. Totally non-allopathic, but nececarry.
It seems his body has weak soft tissue, cartilaginous development. Great right hip will be stronger. Left hip next.
Totally struck by comment this injury is typical of force seen in car accident. Mine was. Guarantee you there is NO force on football field greater than ANY car accident.
He is a medical nightmare. JMO… and experience.
DoIreallyNeedAspaceBar?
#spacebarisoverrated
It reads as well as most of my shit!
ItReallySucksThough,NewKeyboardWontBeHereTillWednesday.lol
Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
There’s a scenario in which the Dolphins take Andrew Thomas in the first round, which would make the Laremy Tunsil trade look basically pointless.
Do these guys think before making these tweets? We got two 1st rd picks for Tunsil and a tackle like Thomas could be on a rookie contract for 5 years. The reporters who cover the Dolphins love to twist everything into the negative. SMH
WTF? If we turn the #1 we got this year for Tunsil into a high quality LT, then it’s beyond incomprehensible how that can’t be considered a win for us.
If he wants to complain about a pointless pick, complain about the Minkah trade. That is the one we’re bound to lose on, lol.
Please don’t give me a rundown on why we traded Minkah. I know what happened and I get the reasoning the team puts forth, and I still disagree with it. 😉
LOL @ Kong, I didn’t like how the Minkah situation went down either. I was a fan of his and thought he was a building block.
MinkahTheMutinous!!!!
Hell yeah!
Fuck that whiner!
The way the Steelers and Texans are going we’re looking at maybe #14-20 with both of their 1st rd picks. But let’s not get too caught up in that. We also have two 1st rd picks in 2021 and four 2nd rd picks the next two years along with other picks and FA.
We keep acting like if we don’t have a top 3 pick and three top 10 picks overall this year all is lost. We all know that doesn’t guarantee anything. Just add good players and don’t worry about if they’re franchise type guys. We’ll probably have 20 new players next year. Maybe more and there will be more talent added than what we have now. 🙂
This draft should be an absolute blast to watch. The whole offseason we’ll probably feel like kids in a candy store. It can’t get here soon enough…can’t remember the last time I ever thought that in the middle of a football season lol.
Absolutely!!! And we all know how things happen. Maybe one 1st rd pick really balls, another needs some time and the other has an injury. Then one 2nd rd pick really steps up, the other is just okay at this time. Then a couple of other draft picks play better than projected. FA upgrades the talent base and half of them really pan out. Some guys already on the team progress. Even with just that, we’re a more talented team and should be more competitive next season. Phase II does not mean glorious winning. LOL
Maybe we will take down and pick up more picks…lol
I’d love it.
We’ve had some off seasons this last decade that were supposed to be epic. I don’t want to talk about it…..
I believe this one will be different.
Im not excited about picking number 4
If we are 4, maybe it makes sense to trade down with one of those teams with multiple first rounders
As a fan I don’t ever remember a time when we had the draft capital and FA cap space to really change the team that we have over the next two seasons.
Not together. We’ve had them separately and blew it.
You can look at it that way.
Piggy, we have no idea who will be there at #4. You make it seem like the 1st round ends after #3 with talent. Why trade down, we already have two more 1st rd picks and two 2nd’s? You don’t want a team loaded with 50 rookies. LOL
Lol…..Tim come on! You know there are only 3 picks in the first round!
Okay, I’m. It saying we must trade down
But chase young looks special and if he’s out of range, I will be a bit disappointed
When did top 5 in the draft become disappointing? Randy always said top 10 is huge. Now if top 4 isn’t good enough, what are we doing to ourselves?
We also have options to make trades and add prospects we really believe in, and not just take whoever is left. We have a draft board and capital to trade up. It’s still November, folks. February/March is more accurate how the draft may go down. 😉
Think as Fin fans, we are just used to however it plays out to be bad. LOL
when i think of hip injuries i think of Bo Jackson.
It’s hard not to.
So many guys here spend so much time looking at players so they tend to get attached to these guys. The higher we pick in round 1 makes it less a likely we get those players they cover. Doesn’t mean we’re not going to get great players. I think if we’ve learned anything this season is that no player is bigger than the team. We’re going to look for players like that. You can defend Minkah the Mutinous as much as you like, his actions didn’t fit that.
You say that like it’s just not watching a lot of NCAA Football?
I don’t “look” up a player unless he’s done something to catch my eye, or someone suggests it.
I’m not a scout!
I Just like NCAA football better than the NFL anymore!
When I say looking at players I also mean watching them. I wouldn’t doubt that watching college ball is better than the NFL, I don’t like where the NFL is headed.
A lot of “buzz” around the Astros right now. lol
Meh!
damn cheaters
Wyo – Ya sound a little like a Patriots fan. OUCH!!
I guess?
It seems that everyone can frame allegations these days, to get shit stir’d up!
Yes, let’s rail against the allegations…even though the allegations are true. “It don’t matter cause it’s my ‘team’. Git em up!”
I don’t remember “railing” against anything?
Just haven’t paid that much attention to it!
I’ve been listening to the other allegations going on.
Your whole 2nd line is a passive aggressive rail, lol. You typed it earlier today, remember? 😉
Tua surgery reported successful. I wouldn’t touch this guy. He’s going to get broken in the NFL.
I agree. I said that before this injury. I said that his injuries make me nervous, then this happened to confirm my fears.
Yep, you’ve been saying it for awhile now.
Ugh, that is disappointing! We’re going to have to draft at least 1 back anyway, and maybe 2 now.
Wyo – Not a bitter fan in the least, I don’t hate the Astros at all, but there seems to be a lot of evidence mounting against them. There’s just way too much smoke for there not to be a fire. I do believe that every team “cheats” to a certain degree, but there’s plenty of instances that have come out specifically against the Stros right now. It’s pretty unlikely that they’re going to escape this unscathed.
How does the word “MEH”
1 get me into the same boat as a Pat’s fan?
2 say anything about Mike E being a bitter fan?
I like watching baseball when it’s on. I don’t follow it in the off-season!
I honestly don’t know anymore today than when it was first announced!
Don’t get yer panties in a bunch. It just sounds like you’re dismissing it as untrue or irrelevant, and it isn’t. If MEH means you just don’t care, that’s fine.
wyoming — he was just saying what came out was very Pats-like. And yeah jabbing a bit , but what we do here. 🙂
So get suspended for PED and then get in more trouble? What a frigging waste. Even a rookie making the NFL minimum gets 480k.
Not that it matters, but he got suspended for personal conduct (the 3 or 4 off-season arrests), not PEDs.
Guess what I read was wrong, which was PED. But not like reporters haven’t gotten stuff wrong before. No doubt why he got cut though.
It falls under the same policy, the ‘NFL’s personal conduct and substance abuse policies’. It threw me off too. I had thought till now he was suspended for PEDs then i started looking into this newest arrest and saw more detail.
You taught me something…. thanks.
Sheesh, that’s just hideous. No place in humanity let alone the NFL
There’s a kid who needs some time behind bars to think about what he’s done (allegedly).
What an idiot. After is all over she might refuse to pursue charges…. but not like every team he talks too won’t know it did happen.
Too bad Walton couldn’t bring that same energy to the playing field.
Had no problem with Walton on the field, but then was a huge Cecil Collins fan for a while too.
“The Browns opened as 10.5-point favorites. This game marks just the third time the Browns have been favored by 10 or more points in the 21st century.”
Where’s prof lou been….. this is his game! 🙂
Too bad Walton is a human garbage heap. Of course that woman probably deserved it, getting all pregnant with his kid and whatnot.
Have you guys read about S. Dakota’s new anti-drug campaign slogan?
“Meth. We’re on it.”
LOL, seriously, that is the new slogan.
LMAO!!!
You can’t make this stuff up, lol.
Didn’t think that through
What a shitty person Walton is
Yeah. F%$# that guy, and get the hell away from our team.
Did you guys see this from Haskins
Chicago’s new anti-gun violence campaign.
“Gun violence. We’ve got enough for everyone.”
Walton making me hate him more than a previously most hated former Dolphins player with the initials M.T.M.
Not sure if anyone has posted this or not, it’s kind of old news, but I wasn’t aware of it till now.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/20191119/former-dwyer-star-miami-dolphins-tight-end-nick-orsquoleary-signs-with-jaguars?rssfeed=true
Keep this garbage off our site!
For the Hurts fans
Hey delete that one !!!
For the Hurts fans
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A)
Round 1 Pick 22: DAndre Swift, RB, Georgia (A-)
Round 1 Pick 26: Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU (A-)
Round 2 Pick 4: Yetur Gross-Matos, DE/OLB, Penn State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 27: Darryl Williams, C/OG, Mississippi State (B+)
Round 3 Pick 4: Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 4 Pick 15: David Dowell, FS/SS, Michigan State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 21: Zach Shackelford, C, Texas (A+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Michael Pittman, WR, USC (A+)
Round 6 Pick 21: Tremayne Anchrum, OG, Clemson (A+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Robert Windsor, DT, Penn State (A+)
He’s more RG3 than Jackson or Watson, so those that think they are getting the next one of those guys will be sorely mistaken.
Think Mike Vick, more power runner less speed. Both have cannon arms but they overthrow their passes, they dont set their feet and their instincts aren’t to go past first read without taking off. Can you build a team around him, sure, but he will ever be consistent. Jameis Winston is anther player that comes to mind as a similar comparison, cept Jameis isn’t as mobile.
Could have put Love there.
Your thoughts on him?
Anybody here watch It Chapter 2? Was it any good?
Haven’t see it yet, but I do want to see it for sure.
I just bought it on amazon (streaming releases earlier than DVDs). I had forgotten about it, but am looking forward to seeing it. I couldn’t recall anyone on here giving any thoughts on it. I’ll let you know what i think tomorrow.
CavalierKong says:
November 19, 2019 at 10:59 am
Tua surgery reported successful. I wouldn’t touch this guy. He’s going to get broken in the NFL.
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I consider this a gas mask scenario, if he drops significantly, i dont see picking him up for his potential at a bargain rate. I was never in the Tank for Tua camp, i also saw him as a guy who’s best trait opens him up to be hit and in the NFL hit really hard. I dont think though i drop him off my board, i just look for a bargain pickup, and if he made it to our later 1st round picks, i would really consider him at that point if we didn’t take a guy we liked better with the top one.
i can see i meant….
Considering until the last week he was considered the mostly consensus #1 pick, I can understand your logic. I personally still wouldn’t use a 1st on him. If he dropped to late 2nd or 3rd maybe I’d consider it, but that injury history really worries me. QBs get pummeled in the NFL, especially our QBs, lol.
To me a first round pick in the 20 range is already in the second round talent range. Rarely do you have a draft where true standout elite talent dips that low. This draft has about 5 really elite players.
Young
Thomas
Jeudy
Tua
and maybe Burrow.
These are all the player where its like they are once in a while players. Jeudy is rare as a receiver in running all routes well, having good size and great speed. Young, is a wrecking ball, Thomas is a once in a decade kind of OL with great feet, strength, technique, etc and then you have Tua and Burrow, where Tua is one of the best QB prospects of the more “new style” Qb’s that are still great passers. He’s Wilson with a lot better physical skills. Watson with better mobility. Jackson it a better arm and passing traits. Only thing not to like is the injuries. Burrow is a complete QB. He’d be more comparable to Goff ability wise but he’s way smarter.
So to me is Tua is in the 20’s range, we are already past all the players that make the risk you are taking really a risk.I dont think you are missing out on any player in that range that would offset the what if of hitting on that pick.
wyoming85 says:
November 19, 2019 at 3:05 pm
Could have put Love there.
Your thoughts on him?
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I was just comparing him to current and previous QB’s but yeah Love i can see how he sorta compares,but Love is just a really raw prospect that i dont think has had quality coaching around him. I saw a little of him that says to me he doesn’t always overthrow the ball, he has some touch ability, but he has a tendency to throw to the receiver and doesn’t seem to understand the concept of throwing to the spot. When he misses, in the NFL that shit is going to be a pick. He also seems to me like he doesn’t do great on getting past his first read which means he may not really be football smart. Again, might be coach-able but he is a risk. There is a lot of “potential” in him, but i wouldn’t hang my hat on him being a franchise player. They are probably pretty comparable to me, Hurts and Love, both probably would be better drafted as backups to like Watson, or Jackson, or maybe Swiss army knife kinda players like Taysom Hill. You could select either of them as a mid rounder as a low risk high reward type of prospect, but you definitely keep someone else as your starter until you figure out what ya got with them.
I see more potential in Love being able to be coached into a more true NFL QB than i do Hurts.
Thanks D
Accepted invites from senior bowl im excited to see.
Prince Tega Wanogho OT
Ke’Shawn Vaughn RB
Alex Taylor OT FCS
Darrell Taylor Jr. EDGE
Lamical Perine RB
Zack Moss RB
Javon Kinlaw DT
Josh Jones OT
Leki Fotu DT
Devin Duvernay WR
Jabari Zuniga DE
Jonathan Greenard EDGE
I see this draft as having 5 true elites, about 5-6 first year studs, and then a bulk of players that will be considered low firsts early seconds, probably enough players that you are getting roughly the same rank player probably into the early 3rd, but definitely late second.
Im really hoping Steelers shit the bed soon, or Houston, or both, because we need to get back int the 1-10 range to get two centerpieces this year.
Well Pit lost to Clev (div rival) and Hou lost to Balt this past weekend so the fall has started!
Hou hosts Indy this Thursday night so we know who to root for there.
and the Steelers play at Cincy this sunday so they could kill two birds with one stone by giving the bungles a win. GO BUNGLES!
Also rooting for the Skins to beat the Lions this weekend.
SMH @ Walton
I hate that he did that, not really because i liked him and want him to be on our team but simply the world is worse with people like that in it. Im not really worried about him being cut, or the loss to the team. He wasn’t that good that it affects us much moving forward.
D says:
November 19, 2019 at 4:46 pm
Accepted invites from senior bowl im excited to see.
Prince Tega Wanogho OT
Ke’Shawn Vaughn RB
Alex Taylor OT FCS
Darrell Taylor Jr. EDGE
Lamical Perine RB
Zack Moss RB
Javon Kinlaw DT
Josh Jones OT
Leki Fotu DT
Devin Duvernay WR
Jabari Zuniga DE
Jonathan Greenard EDGE
RBs are easy to find. No big deal. What a piece of shit tho.
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/1196909639318884359?s=20
So instead of Tank for Tua it becomes Trade Down for Tua?
Yeah i think he drops from number 1 overall discussions, but i think he is still in consideration for top 10. Its not an injury you really dont bounce back from. By combine, when he gets medically checked out there, thats when he either will or wont drop as a prospect. Jaylon Smith went from top 10 to top of the second round his year, and thats with the evaluation at combine saying he has the dreaded “nerve damage” see how successful he has been. I think a lot of worries about injuries aren’t as worrisome to the NFL evaluators because they know a perfectly healthy guy can go on to have an injry plagued career and one injured in college doesn’t necessarily have those injuries follow him in the pros. My issue is his style of play, i think that will open him up for injury, but this current injury and recovery from its really doesn’t enter into my evaluation.
I wouldn’t be opposed to rolling the dice on Noah Spence. Like Hargreaves, low risk with potential reward.
I agree
D, glad you mentioned WR Devin Duvernay. He is the WR I would love to see us draft. He is a WR with a RB body at 5’10” 210 lbs. All ready has 87 rec for 1,017 yards and 7 TD’s. Is he fast? Bleacher Report listed him as the 7th fastest player in college football. Good kid as well:
Hope this works, cant cut and paste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSvEKFK8_Ig
Awe screw it. It was an interview video.
I think he fits what we are trying to do as an offensive system.
Quick hit, couple of cuts and hit some home runs every so often. Versatility too, could line him up in different spots.
Tim,
I’m not really sure what’re you’re referencing about me and top 10 picks. I prefer to keep them when you have them and trading up into the top ten if you’re already really close. But, I rarely like trading up. I don’t fall in love with players, so I never feel like I gotta give up picks to get somebody. I have talked about trying to get into the top 10 for QBs if you gotta, but I said that was really just a QB thing. Statically, it’s always better to get a higher pick. Exceptions aren’t the rule.
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Having all these high picks for the next couple years kinda changes your draft strategy, to me. You have the ammunition to do all sorts of things you wouldn’t otherwise, but it doesn’t mean you should. If you only have one pick….well then….give me the highest one I can get. Lol
We’ve had discussions about this before where you said you want to be in the top 10 and I said sometimes the drop off is after #6 and it’s not necessarily about top 10. It wasn’t calling you out or anything, Piggy was saying being at #4 wouldn’t excite him and I said you always felt top 10 is where you want to be. LOL
The Phins over many years were drafting in the middle range.
Having them and doing something with is the strategy.. I hope
Grier better put his eyes on every top 100 candidates in the draft and more. I’m with OD on this one. Show me!
And he wouldn’t do that, why?
It’s even easier for him this yeat…top 65. 5 in top 65. You have to hit.
On all 5! Do your homework!
Injuries are an important reason why you shouldn’t get Tua head of yourself when looking at the next draft this early.
Oh and what a piece of shit Walton is.
👍
I’ll say it again!
If Flores takes a bite out of the Pat;s play book?
We will target players!
and we will trade all over the place to get them!
Keeping good draft capital to do it year after year!
We have a lot of options to acquire coveted talent. It’s not about finishing with 12-13 total picks it’s about finding 6-7 prospects you think can improve the team. Add that to FA and the players you already believe in and you have a very different team and hopefully a good one next year. I think we’ll have at least 15 new players next year not counting the bottom end of the roster churning. 15 players added that we feel we can build on to become a good team. This is the most important offseason of the Grier/Flores tandem. In 2021 they’ll have quite a bit to work with again, but they have to hit on it and get it started in 2020.
It’s all about who’s doing the picking. Hasn’t been very good for a long time.
I’m madly in love with Flores so I think it won’t matter who they give him.
We’ve drafted and signed some good players over the years. But we’ve struggled building a “good team”. Year two for Grier/Allen/McKenzie with Flores in Phase II.
We tore the house down and we started reframing this year. Next year it’s time for more detail.
Miami is averaging 3.0 yards per rush as a team, worst in the NFL. It would also be the worst mark in franchise history, worst than 3.1 yards in 1997.
Fix the Oline and get / keep a good running back.
We dumped a player who has averaged 4.7 yards per carry with this team (5.2 now in Zona)
I’m a Drake fan but let’s be realistic about the situation. We know why we traded him.
Look at the numbers.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DrakKe00.htm
Kong
I’m a Stephen King lifer. I’ve read so many of his books, I almost always enjoy them. Did you ever read Mr. Mercedes? There’s a series on Audience that’s in it’s 3rd season now. I really like it, good cast. If you read the book you should probably check it out.
I’ll be the first to say I hate when the team trades up, but just picking guys that fall at your spot hasn’t really worked. I’d like to see us trade up and down the board, but get the guy you really want. When your pick comes and you really don’t have a great feel for the guys available at that spot trade down or for next years picks.
I agree with Tim’s get 6 or 7 prospects you think can improve the team.
Lol, Dodgers 2017 WS Champs 😉
I don’t think the 2nd or 3rd will be there! But I’d be pretty happy with this!
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A)
Round 1 Pick 16: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (B+)
Round 1 Pick 23: DAndre Swift, RB, Georgia (A-)
Round 2 Pick 4: Tyler Biadasz, C, Wisconsin (A)
Round 2 Pick 30: KLavon Chaisson, DE/OLB, LSU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 4: David Dowell, FS/SS, Michigan State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 17: Jon Runyan, OG, Michigan (A+)
Round 5 Pick 15: Carter Coughlin, DE/OLB, Minnesota (A+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 21: Isaiahh Loudermilk, DT, Wisconsin (A+)
Round 7 Pick 25: Lamical Perine, RB, Florida (A+)
Works for me!
Went and saw Ford vs Ferrari in IMAX. It was a good movie
Wow!!! Both Jones and McCain on IR now?
SI know McCain has been playing with a bad shoulder. Guess Jones just hadn’t fully recovered
Mike,
I haven’t read the Mr. Mercedes books, but I’ve watched the series. Brendan Gleeson is one of my favorite actors. I’m also a big Stephen King fan. He’s my favorite hack writer of all time. I’ve read a lot of his stuff, and watched every adaptation I can find. Can’t wait for the newest adaptation of The Stand which comes out next year. I always loved the cheesy 90’s TV mini-series adaptation of that book.
Just watch It 2 last night, and I thought it was pretty good. A lot of stuff straight from the book. The only thing I didn’t really like was the de-aging they used on the kids. I remember M13 and I had a conversation about it after the first chapter of It, wondering how they were going to keep the kids looking the same, and the answer was painfully obvious at times with the de-aging. Not really a fan of that technology, but it didn’t detract from the movie, and it did let them keep the kids in the 2nd chapter, so good and bad I guess. Either way, those that liked the 1st movie will probably like the 2nd.
Cheers 🙂
steveccnv says:
November 20, 2019 at 9:21 am
I’ll be the first to say I hate when the team trades up, but just picking guys that fall at your spot hasn’t really worked. I’d like to see us trade up and down the board, but get the guy you really want. When your pick comes and you really don’t have a great feel for the guys available at that spot trade down or for next years picks.
I agree with Tim’s get 6 or 7 prospects you think can improve the team.
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Trade up trade downs, stay put, its all a matter of talent depth and how important any one person is to the overall improvement of your team. There are scenarios, not seen by us as fans, that lends itself to any of those strategies, so its never really something that we can predict or say whether it wa a good or bad move until a few years down the road. I can see scenarios for each of us.
If we pick at 4, our top target QB is gone, Chase Young is gone, Thomas is gone and we dont really have a guy at 4 that flips our switch, drop back a little, get a similar quality player, pick up some draft capitol. I dont see a problem with stay put and take BPA at 4 either. I also dont see an issue packagin another 1st and moving up to get our guy, if they are strongly feeling this guy changes the direction of our team. Notice i said they, thats the key part, we dont know whether the prospect is or is not that guy for our team for our staff, etc. Tey do know that so just accept the manuvering they do as whats best for the team.
Thats said, i think its about quality picks, and hopefully ones that pan out. This idea that we must hit on our top 5 picks is silly. No amount of homework done will ever give you guarantees on a prospect and id be glad to hit on most of them. I mean id really question things if straight out the gate,not one of them showed any promise, but if in a year or two we look like we have 3-4 solid contributors, and some top level depth players, im happy with this.
You also have to question your expectations on when they show they were a quality pick, first year, after a couple, maybe three? Too many variables to congratulate or condemn a pick as its made.
If we’re at four and Burrow, Herbert and Young are gone then I’m taking Epinesa. Immediate starter on our D line.
Over Thomas?
Well I guess Thomas would be there too. Tough decision but our pass rush and pass blocking suck so it ends up a coin flip for me.
Son
I think both are good prospects!
They are. Get both!
I’ve been watching Epinesa lately and he’s the kind of beast we need at end, he’s becoming one of my favorites for this draft.
For me its about the ranges of this draft. I said before i have there to be about 5 elite prospects, another 5-6 stud prospects, and then a big cluster of low first high second players who all stack up about the same.
So if ya block it off
1-3 Because even among the 5 elite there are probably 3 game changers.
4-5
6-11
12-56ish
If im at 5, id consider trade up to a top 3 spot to get either Thomas, Young or in my case, Burrow. If im at 3 or above, i dont trade up, i dont trade back, i stay put and take one of those three, if im at 4, id consider a trade down to 5, but not lower, unless the payout was significantly in my favor, id consider a trade up to at least 3, again, best deal in my favor, or id stay put.
Likewise if im 6-11, im looking to trade up to the top 5, stay put or get a really good value trade down. 12 and below, id be really open to a good trade down deal, even a trade out to very top of the second if the deal was good enough.
Im sure they have target players in mind too, and you have to scratch plans to do your draft like this if you have a guy you want thats in danger of being selected by someone else.
son of a son of a shula says:
November 20, 2019 at 11:11 am
If we’re at four and Burrow, Herbert and Young are gone then I’m taking Epinesa. Immediate starter on our D line.
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I dont think he is in the same class as the other guys. I would consider taking him at 4 a waste of the value of that pick. Id traded own to 6-11 and target him there.
I think Herbert is in that 6-11 range too.
I hope so, and I hope our 2nd pick is in that range
Right now I think we are 15
If Cincy has the number 1 pick and it certainly seems likely at this point id think they would take Burrow, possibly Tua if he has an immaculate medical screening at combine. At this point the Skins would be 2, and my guess they would take Young, outside chance they would take a QB. Then us, or at least thats how it stands right now, i take Thomas, choosing to stay put. If we were at 4, and assuming Thomas was taken at 3, im either taking Jeudy, whatever the top rated Q on our board is, or id trade back to 6+ and pick up some draft capitol. I most like stay put and take Jeudy.
Jones and McCain on IR? My guess is Jones’ last down for the Phins was last week.
Some safeties who want to stick in the league sure are gonna be churning out some tape.
Gonna see some Van Ginkel though. And he is one whose tires need to be kicked.
D
Are you that high on Jeudy?
He’s a great talent! But I see him between 5-10
I like Espenesa but I think maybe someone like Gross-Matos or okwura might be more what we are looking for
Espenesa probably would fit the same way Wilkins does for us now
Also throw Zuniga and Jennings in that group
An we end up with both Espenesa and one of those guys I mentioned
Yes!
Id rather have Derrick Brown from Auburn over Espenesa personally.
wyoming85 says:
November 20, 2019 at 12:08 pm
D
Are you that high on Jeudy?
He’s a great talent! But I see him between 5-10
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From a talent perspective, he is a top 5 guy to me. He is a once in a decade type player at WR and even though i dont really value WR like that, from a talent perspective, and a player that can make a huge difference in our offense, i think he would do that.
I’m beginning to think if we can’t / don’t get a top tier starter at the QB position.
We won’t take one!
We have a developmental QB now!
Why would we draft another one?
I think I’d draft Tristan Wirfs from Iowa before I drafted Epenesa. Wirfs is still developing as a pass blocker, but I think he has the potential to be very good. What I like about Epenesa is his versatility. He’s strong against the run, and he’s got the size to shift down inside. He’s probably not gonna be a double digit sack guy every year, but he could be a solid but not great pro.
Ha!
they forgot to put the important word……combined.
He’s also beating them on the average yards per catch metric.
Preston Williams would likely also be beating them stat wise if he hadnt gotten hurt.
LOL
Beckam Jr 2019 cap hit – 17,000,000
Landry 2019 cap hit – 14,050,000
Total – $31,050,000
Parker 2019 cap hit – 4,843,750
Total – $4,843750
Kong – Cheers bud!
I like Brendan Gleeson as well. The story is done well, even if it veers away from the books at times, it’s still well done. I’m looking forward to watching It Part II.
Bill Hader steals the show in part 2. He is SO much better as adult Richie than Harry Anderson ever was.
Round 1 Pick 4: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A)
Round 1 Pick 16: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (B+)
Round 1 Pick 23: Alex Leatherwood, OG/OT, Alabama (B-)
Round 2 Pick 4: Tyler Biadasz, C, Wisconsin (A)
Round 2 Pick 30: Solomon Kindley, OG, Georgia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 4: KLavon Chaisson, DE/OLB, LSU (A-)
Round 4 Pick 17: Jon Greenard, DE/OLB, Florida (A)
Round 5 Pick 15: Jordan Fuller, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 21: Michael Pittman, WR, USC (A+)
Round 7 Pick 25: Lamical Perine, RB, Florida (A+)
We will never have to draft another OL after that
Nice picking up Greenard and Chaisom after all that OL
Nice! OL heavy, but each one would be a homerun. With Thomas, Leatherwood and Biadasz taken in 3 of 1st 4 picks it would have been nice to get WR Duvernay in place of Kindley or another CB. This draft rocks though!
Kong – I had no idea Bill Hader was in “It Part II”. Interesting . . .
Yep, and he’s got chops.
YOUR TEAM
MIAMI DOLPHINS
YOUR PICKS
1: R1P3 QB JUSTIN HERBERT OREGON
2: R1P16 OT ALEX LEATHERWOOD ALABAMA
3: R1P21 EDGE JULIAN OKWARA NOTRE DAME
4: R2P3 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN
5: R2P28 RB JONATHAN TAYLOR WISCONSIN
6: R3P3 WR BRANDON AIYUK ARIZONA STATE
7: R4P38 CB MARCO WILSON FLORIDA
8: R5P15 S ANTOINE BROOKS JR. MARYLAND
9: R5P28 S JORDAN FULLER OHIO STATE
10: R5P34 LB TUF BORLAND OHIO STATE
11: R6P3 G LOGAN STENBERG KENTUCKY
12: R6P23 WR ISAIAH HODGINS OREGON STATE
13: R6P32 G KEVIN JARVIS MICHIGAN STATE
14: R7P25 K CONNOR LIMPERT ARKANSAS
I like the pairing of Diadasz and Taylor in the second round. They were the main contributors to 1,463 yards rushing and 17 TD’s at 6.3 yards ave SO FAR this season
I like your first 5 picks a lot!
Got a keyboard! Oh joy! lol
FINALLY BACK ON THE BOARD!! – – Had a VERY good convention in Baltimore last week. But, somehow, someone at the Renaissance Hotel managed to separate me from my Florida Driver’s license within 2 hours of our arrival!!! Spent 3 days trying to track it down, to no avail. I WAS able to fly back home to Tampa as scheduled, but I’ll leave that story for another time. Guys from TSA only took about 8-10 minutes to clear me. But the process was NOTHING like what I expected.–Will tell all probably Sunday when I return from another convention. This time WITH my Driver’s License!!
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Got to see almost all of the Bills-Dolphins game. My #1 impression can be summed up in this: Bills recorded 7 sacks; Dolphins recorded ZERO sacks. Both Miami’s O-Line and Miami’s pass rush were HORRID/NON-Existent!!! WE could draft a young Dan Marino and we’d STILL have a shitty team!!!
According to something I read in Wikipedia, young Mr. Grier has been with the Dolphins for 20 years. And beginning 10 years ago, Grier started to play a key role in WHO Miami picked in the draft. Probably just a coincidence that, in 2009, Mr. Steve Ross took control of the team. Or was it 2010?? Anyway, their careers are forever linked. And, to me, that makes GRIER PART OF THE PROBLEM, NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION. Hopefully, the next Dolphins’ owner will show Grier the door in short order. NOT SINCE JAKE LONG have the Dolphins drafted someone early in round one who became an All-pRO AND A TRULY DOMINANT PLAYER!! Too bad Long’s career was shortened by injury.
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NOT GIVING UP on Miami’s chances of finishing 3rd or 4th in their round one draft position. And if one of those teams is the Giants, they likely WON’T be taking a QB in round one. So there’s still hope for another run of losses by this franchise. A key MAY be LOSING to the inept BROWNS, who, like the Fins, have squandered an abundance of draft picks and also failed in the free agent market. Right now, I give the Brownies a SLIM edge over this horrible Miami team that NOW lacks even one average NFL back!! The departure of Walton leaves the Fins with THE WORST GROUP OF RUNNING BACKS IN THE 54 YEAR HISTORY OF THIS FRANCHISE!!!
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OH, and don’t give me this “Everybody agreed to ‘blowing-up the team, so you’ve got to live with the consequences.” That’s a god-damned LIE pushed by Ross ass-lickers!!! I NEVER agreed to this, just as I never agreed to anything like TANKING to improve the franchise!! You improve the franchise by picking good players, NOT BY RUNNING THEM OFF TO OTHER TEAMS!!!
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The remaining players on this team, for the most part, have played as well as they can. THEY AREN’T TANKING, in my opinion. But those in charge of the roster have made “Tanking Moves” in a mis-guided effort to gather draft picks which, if the same clowns are doin’ the picking, will be just as bad as the picks from the last 10 drafts have been. And we’ll be no better than the Cleveland Clowns are THIS YEAR!!! WE NEED:
1) NEW OWNER
2) NEW GM or head of football operations
3) NEW Director of Player Personnel
4) and a NEW, IMPROVED GROUP OF SCOUTS
Those who have created the “Climate of Losing” must be replaced, as in “BLOWN UP!!” And this hasn’t really happened since Don Shula was brought in to be the HC/GM and Joe Thomas was brought in to be Director of Player Personnel.
Y’all have a great evening!
3: R1P3
QB JUSTIN HERBERT
OREGON
16: R1P16
OT JEDRICK WILLS
ALABAMA
21: R1P21
OT ALEX LEATHERWOOD
ALABAMA
35: R2P3
C TYLER BIADASZ
WISCONSIN
60: R2P28
RB JONATHAN TAYLOR
WISCONSIN
67: R3P3
RB TRAVIS ETIENNE
CLEMSON
144: R4P38
EDGE KENNY WILLEKES
MICHIGAN STATE
159: R5P15
CB JAVARIUS DAVIS
AUBURN
172: R5P28
S RICHIE GRANT
UCF
178: R5P34
WR T.J. VASHER
TEXAS TECH
181: R6P3
EDGE ALEX HIGHSMITH
CHARLOTTE
201: R6P23
TE MITCHELL WILCOX
SOUTH FLORIDA
210: R6P32
CB KARY VINCENT
LSU
238: R7P25
LB SHAQUILLE QUARTERMAN
MIAMI
Hoping for a late round gem in terms of edge in willlekes or highsmith
This is pretty OL heavy
2 good Rbs early
Wait now I’m a Ross Ass Licker? 😉
I guess I am!
eeeewwwwwwww I have never licked Rosses ass and never will. BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK
OINK SNORT OINK OINK SNORT SQEEEEL SNORT SNORT
Doggy and Piggy, you can translate that for the rest if you like,
It reads like an admission of licking Ross’ ass…lol
Tip: Don’t ever ask 🐷 to translate for you if you don’t want a smart ass remark..lol
OD can you explain the logic of firing Chris Greir bc he was hired by Ross
So that he is replaced by some one who is…(Check notes) …hired by Ross
Conflating your grievances with Ross with Grier is very unfair to me
Greir should be judged by his performance, not who hired him
I wonder if you can step back from your hate towards Ross to realize how unfair it is to judge everyone who works for him bc they work for him
I hope that people don’t judge each of us bc who we have worked for
I for one always want to be judged by my performance and I won’t judge Grier in any other standard
But if I was inclined to forget how unfair it is, I can’t forget how illogical it is, given that his replacement will also be hired by Ross
OD can rant all he wants about Ross and now Grier, and Marvin Allen and Reggie McKenize who were brought in just last year, but it’s very likely he’s going to have to wait until at least 2021 to see if this group along with Flores panned out.
ass licker
LOL, sticks and stones. There is only one person on this blog obsessed with Ross and it’s not ass lickers. It’s the opposite of that. The unfortunate thing is OD’s good friend Young Stanger has been pretty supportive of Ross overall. So is he calling him out too?
Get off my lawn..?
Not making excuses for Bobby McCain but now that we know he’s been playing with a separated shoulder it kind of explains his recent missed tackles. The guy was playing hobbled kind of like with one hand tied behind your back. Sometimes we’re quick to criticize a player without knowing all the details. McCain is not a great player, all-pro or a pro bowl player, but when he’s good to go he’s a gamer.
I think on another team with him still at slot corner he would have seen some probowls.
It’s doesn’t even matter. Howard, McCain and Jones are all on IR the rest of the season. Jones was a ghost anyway like he has been the last few years. Ross hid in the rafters and shot them all with debilitating darts. The next owner is handpicked by Ross in Bruce Beal, who is a friend and partner of Ross. So there’s that too. 😉
We have had pretty good luck with the 5th and 6th rounds in the draft the past 3-4 years. Is it coincidence that Grier has loaded up with 6 picks in the 5th & 6th rounds?
forgot the irony emoji
Say what you will about Grier, but this draft in 2020 will define him, and given the picks in 2021 he’ll get a second chance, if 2020 was ok but not great.
Going to see the debut of AVG this week? Hope so!
He woke up?