It sure doesn’t look like Brian Flores is satisfied with remaining in the #4 spot of draft. In fact, he’s furious that we didn’t fall down a spot or two. I think we’re all to be objective about it, there was definitely contact early there, but these things happen often and there doesn’t seem to be a consistent way that they call them. As soon as they signed off from the Dolphins game the Ravens vs Bills broadcast came on and immediately Ravens DB Marcus Peters breaks up a pass intended for WR John Brown. In doing so Peters arrives early and has one hand on the shoulder pad and then swipes with his other arm and knocks the ball away. It was eerily similar and there was no call on the field. There was no review either. Earlier in the game there was another call that I believe went our way. Jets LB James Burgess was called for holding on Albert Wilson and it looked like he barely touched him. That was the play the ball appeared to be intercepted and run back for a defensive TD. As it turns out Burgess never actually made the catch and the TD wouldn’t have counted, but I didn’t think there was any holding on the play. Things even out usually, I’m not crying over the penalty at the end.
As some of you were discussing here, Ryan Fitzpatrick set a franchise record for rushing yards in a game with 65 yards. It’s correct, I looked. David Woodley’s highest rushing total in a game was 58, it was the season opener in the 1981 season, oddly enough against the Jets. The Dolphins finished with over 100 yards rushing for the 2nd time this season, the other was against Buffalo 10/20. Of course the fact that our QB led us in rushing continues to be a bad sign for our running backs. Laird topped Dolphins RB’s with 48 yards on 15 carries for a paltry 3.2 average.
DeVante Parker, our version of the Phoenix was grounded yesterday with a concussion. Isaiah Ford did what he could, but the offense wasn’t the same without Parker. Gesicki was shut down and much of that had to do with some poor accuracy from Fitzgerald. He was off the mark with quite a few throws, throwing with too much pace, throwing too high and throwing behind. It happens, but it wasn’t a great day for Fitz.
The sleepy one, Andrew Van Ginkle woke up and recorded his first NFL sack. Kicker Jason Sanders hit on of 7 of 8 FG attempts, and the miss was due to a bad snap, not his fault. In addition, his kickoffs are routinely deep, so Sanders looks like a keeper.
Next game on the schedule is against the NY Giants, who of course share the same stadium in New Jersey with the Jets. Eli Manning will be the QB once again as he gets to have his farewell tour for the next 3 games. QB Daniel Jones is injured and won’t play the rest of the season. The Giants have Saquon Barkely and the beginnings of a strong D-line with Dexter Lawrence and Leonard Williams, formerly of the NY Jets. Injuries have riddled the Giants offense, they haven’t had their full compliment of receivers all season. Golden Tate was suspended 4 games and then later battled minor injuries. Sterling Shepard battled concussions and worst for the Giants, TE Evan Engram has been out for the last few weeks with a foot injury. If we can stop Saquon, we have a good shot in this one.
GO DOLPHINS!!!
#staythecourse
Finsmob Unleashed 
First and Oink
Thanks Mike E
#staythecourse
You’re welcome ER
Nice write up Mike E
Thanks Ken
I think the difference between the play in Buffalo and the play in our game is that Brown’s shoulder was not turned as a result of the contact while in our game we turned the shoulder of the WR
It looked like he turned the receiver more after it was already missed but it’s splitting hairs
I don’t think it was a terrible call, but I’ve seen far more egregious interference plays where it wasn’t called on the field and was challenged and the team that didn’t get the call on the field still didn’t get the call. It’s just how inconsistent they are. That’s a problem
I agree with you Mike E
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 4: Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (A)
Round 1 Pick 22: Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU (A-)
Round 1 Pick 25: Curtis Weaver, OLB/DE, Boise State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 4: Yetur Gross-Matos, DE/OLB, Penn State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 28: JK Dobbins, RB, Ohio State (A)
Round 3 Pick 4: Darryl Williams, C/OG, Mississippi State (A)
Round 4 Pick 19: Josh Metellus, FS/SS, Michigan (A+)
Round 5 Pick 21: Julian Blackmon, CB, Utah (A)
Round 6 Pick 4: Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 21: Scott Lashley, OT, Alabama (A+)
Round 7 Pick 24: Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor (A+)
Good write Mike E. I’m amazed that Tanny never ran for more than 65 yards. He played WR and ran I think a 4.6 40. When we drafted him had some long Steve Young type runs in my dreams at least. Still can’t figure out why wasn’t more of that with him.
Philbin and Gase are the reasons why
And he actually seemed to work better rolling right when the threat of the run was there than in the pocket.
I say we let the NCAA Championship game decide on the QB we take! 🙂
We have enough to trade up this year or next!
Where’s Toba?……. a Blue Bomber in the Davie House.
“Winnipeg Blue Bombers defensive end and CFL Most Outstanding Defensive Player Willie Jefferson has a workout scheduled with the NFL’s Miami Dolphins.”
Nice !!! Cam Wake lite
Pick traded from Cincinnati Bengals to Miami Dolphins. Details:
CINN receives the following picks: Round 1 Pick 4 (4) (MIA), Round 1 Pick 25 (25) (MIA), Round 2 Pick 28 (60) (MIA)
MIA receives the following picks: Round 1 Pick 1 (1) (CINN)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1 (CINN): Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 22: DAndre Swift, RB, Georgia (A-)
Round 2 Pick 4: CJ Henderson, CB, Florida (A-)
Round 3 Pick 4: Darryl Williams, C/OG, Mississippi State (A)
Round 4 Pick 19: Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville (A+)
Round 5 Pick 21: Carter Coughlin, DE/OLB, Minnesota (A+)
Round 6 Pick 4: Ashtyn Davis, FS/SS, California (A+)
Round 6 Pick 21: Dylan Singleton, SS/FS, Duke (A+)
Round 7 Pick 24: Steve Nielsen, OT, Eastern Michigan (A+)
That’s actually realistic as to what it might take, or maybe a bit more than that. Trade chart value — if can still trust — for #4 to #1 is a #12 pick overall.That values out at #15.
Ya, might have to give up the first 2nd round pick instead of the 2nd 2nd
We should be hoping that Washington or the Giants manage to get the first pick. Preferably the Giants. They are definitely not taking a QB.
I really hope they write the PI review off as a bad idea and scrap it before the start of next season.
Get rid of the spot foul also and make it a 10 yard auto 1st down!
There is no perfect rule with that penalty. If you do it that way you can abuse it to prevent any pass that might be completed over 10 yards because i just hack the WR anytime he gets behind me.I guess you could make it a three strike thing too, and suspend the DB if they get called for more than 3 “fouls”
It was a bang bang play, i aw one in another game, equal to the contact that didnt get called, and the announcers called it good defending, i think you could say the same about Needham’s play and i think you could call it for contact before the ball got there. That was one of those judgment plays where i think the call on the field, or lack there of should stay. It is what it is but i think Flores confrontation of the refs was warranted and i liked seeing that he was concerned with the fact they let other plays simlar to that stand uncalled but then reversed that one.
We kicked 8 times as many field goals than punts
We made 7 times as many field goals than punts yesterday.
I bet that’s something that may have never happened before.
Steratore on the broadcast didn’t seem to think it was PI, and he always reversed calls.
I don’t know if my memory is faulty or if it is correct, but I feel like the league did move away from the spot foul on PI for a couple of years sometime in the 90’s and made it a 10 or 15 yd penalty, and the reason they moved back to the spot foul was for exactly the reason D posted above. If you get beat bad deep, you just tackle the receiver and only give up 10 or 15 yds. Am I crazy or did that really happen?
IMO there are two viable solutions to the PI review call. Either get rid of it entirely (my preference) or make it only reviewable by a coach’s challenge. On scores, TOs, or the last 2 minutes there are NO calls from the booth for PI review, you have to have a challenge left, and you have to throw the flag. (Obviously this means the rules would be adapted to allow coach’s challenges in these circumstances specifically for PI.)
If that call yesterday were at another point in the game, and the Jest challenged and it got reversed to PI, I wouldn’t be nearly as mad. Although I also believe it’s possible the ball was at the receiver when the shoulder turn occurred, it was close and I could live with it either way. I personally agree with D that it should have stood as called or not called on the field.
What really infuriates me is the call comes down from NY on a very subjective play, it literally decided a game, and there have been numerous times this year where I haven’t seen the call for a review come down in very similar circumstances, including the next damn game they switched to in Buffalo like 5 minutes later, lol.
Tim nailed it yesterday when he said wait until this happens in the playoffs. And i think this will be a more regular occurrence than what happened in New Orleans last year, so they’ve made the problem worse, not better IMO.
OK, tirade and overall whining about the end of that game over. I’m going to let it go now, lol.
It is a 15 yarder in NCAA?
It is
Reshad Jones is our oldest drafted player, from 2010 a 5th rounder, the next oldest is Walt Aikens believe it or not from 2014 draft a 4th round pick. No survivors from 2011-13 and slim on 15-17, 2-2-4 respectively, 6 guys from the ’18 draft.
Blank canvas it is……. but that was the plan. Flores’ team now and going forward.
I love seeing our Coach losing his shit, its invigorating.
Heard Ben Volin on talk radio earlier. He says becoming more and more clear that this is Brady’s last season. Not real optimistic about the Pats this season either. He could be wrong, but he does cover the team.
The better teams are scoring on that defense too. I hope he retires, and Belichick does too.
Belichick will retire when he is fired and no other team wants him. Not exactly a Jimmy Johnson retire to the keys kind of guy. Doubt he has a future in broadcasting either.
You’re right and I know it but I just don’t want him breaking Coach Shula’s win record.
Maybe Brady leaves and he has a string of tough years and finally decides he’s had enough.
Brady has aged second half of this season. It finally caught up to him.
Good write, Mike.
His left isn’t bad either
I think Belicheat is probably eager to show he can win without Brady.
I agree with this
I heard someone on NFL Radio saying he is going to sign Tannehill in the off season. That would be the ultimate insult if he wins with him
Titans are going to lock him up. Good for him. I hope he continues to play well.
Cav:
The league never went away from the spot of the foul rule. That has always been the rule.
Cheers 🙂
I had a feeling I might have made that up, lol. I have no idea why I have that so firmly in my head.
It must be college ball I’m thinking of like Wyo mentioned above.
Its college.
Idea behind it being a spot foul is of course, assuming if not interfered with the receiver wuld have caught it there. but a lot of the calls they are calling them on have no flipping way of knowing that would have been true. They seemed to have ditched the uncatchable part of what use to be a mitigation. I havent seen a call in recent memory where the ref said they were picking up the flag because the ball was uncatchable.
They have also inserted rules like the past 5 years rules, etc that have further muddies the waters. Now you can get an interference call even if the ball isnt thrown to that player.
I just mentioned the uncatchable pass thing last Sunday. It does feel like it is no longer a rule. Like you said, they have changed the catch rules so many times recently, it’s hard to keep up.
I love the fire from Flores. I think I see that same flame starting to ignite the rest of this team.
Im sure Belichick could win with Tanny, he knows about maximizing positive attributes and minimizing weaknesses. Their offense would look different but im sure they would win.Tanny definitely would be a good fit in the listen and do your part role, that Belichick expects all of his players to conform to.
Pets are being investigated for potential violations for having a crew member filming the Bengals this past Sunday…
It’s being reported that it might be a misunderstanding though.
LOL, that comes off as sarcastic, but it really might be a misunderstanding.
Filming the Bengals….now that sounds like a joke lol.
LOL
Seems it all comes down to where the cameras were aimed. Whole game is obviously on tape and Pats claimed the camera guys were just following on of their advanced scouts. With all the head sets do they even do hand signals much these days?
They’re struggling. Time to put the cheating in overdrive!
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Something about this picture brings a little bit of vomit up for some reason. LOL
Looks like at least one of them was about to go in for the kiss.
Rexy just asked the Baum to take off his shoes and socks. The Baum is intrigued and giving it serious consideration…
Damn it! I thought we finally hit on one!
Sigh, it really is, IMO, the most troubling thing about this franchise over the last decade. We have been ridiculously unable to hit on any flippin olinemen drafted after the 1st round.
I’m hopeful that Flores’ voice in the draft room has a major impact on player selection. He’s scouted players for years, and everything this man has shown me this year is completely positive. I have faith in his decision making ability.
Flores is here, everything is different now. 🙂
Hey wait a second
Could just be a message to Deiter that it’s not good enough. I know he had at least one hold that wasn’t necessary.
That’s the way I see it. I think they’ve seen enough to not have to run him down in his rookie season. Stay healthy so you can rework your body this off season.
Good point. Rookie wall. I think he’ll be a good player for them still. It takes time and he’s just a rookie yet.
Yeah he’s too young to write off, he’s done some good things too. Lots of players have been taken out of the lineup this year. It’s all about the standard being set.
On it’s face it is a demotion one I think designed to make him pissed off and hungry
I’ll say this, I don’t think we’re going to have to worry about Flores picking up any motherfucking gum wrappers
You think he gets queasy?
Or
Blame the players?
Hardly
Queezy – No
Blames Players – It seems to be part of his Mantra?
Not to actually “blame” the player! but your demotion will speak for itself!
Player blame was/is Gase m.o.
Flores is a no nonsense type of guy, his first order of business is discipline, being physical and tough. That has to start right away regardless of who you are.
Sonny – What do you think the Panthers are going to get for Cam? Sounds like they want a haul for him
Lots of teams will be looking for QB’s so they might get a lot. A first and then who knows what else
Go Eli
The Eagles held the pass rusher on the first Ertz catch.
What teams do you think will be interested in Cam?
Auburn! 😉
The Patriots
Chicago.
Trubisky is starting to play well. I don’t see Chicago giving up on him just yet
Fools gold….lol
Whatever happpened to Daniel Jones
Hurt, but Elly said he wants to compete for the starting job next year. Taking those kind of sacks isn’t going to help.
Injured
Mcfarland is so horrible with his analysis. Giants just ran a horrible flea flicker on a long 3rd down, Mcfarland says it’s a bad call because the Eagles aren’t going to bite on the run.
Literally as he’s saying that they’re showing the replay and a Giant was wide open deep down the middle having beat the coverage because the safety bit on the run fake. If Eli had time it should have been an easy TD, lol.
Was thinking same thing. Lol
Balsy f*&^ing call by the Eagles.
They have choice but to go for it.
Over 5 minutes left with 2 timeouts you do not have to go for it on your own 29 when you’re down one score. Especially when your D has shut them down the entire 2nd half.
Meaning they have to say go get it and don’t play safe. The Eagles have been playing poorly for weeks. Like you said balsy so it was a gut check.
Oh, I gotcha!
Maybe the Giants should cover Scott? Just a thought…
Or Ertz.
LOL, oh well, they made it an interesting game at least.
They did.
https://nypost.com/2019/12/09/leveon-bell-went-bowling-all-night-after-jets-ruled-him-out-with-flu/
Anybody else see the reticle on Tunsil feeling like the refs are targeting him? Leads the league in pre-snap penalties. I could be wrong, but I seem to remember that being an issue in Miami too. Wonder if it played into the trade?
Article, not reticle. No pythons here.
LOL, I wonder how he thinks the league could be targeting him. Presnap penalties on the oline are pretty cut and dry.
Oklahoma’s next graduate transfer?
That would be great for him
WE suck at Tanking!
Well isn’t that so much better?
Sounds like someone is better at figuring out how it works. No lower than 8th is cool by me. And makes me free to root for the wins.
Pick traded from Cincinnati Bengals to Miami Dolphins. Details:
CINN receives the following picks: Round 1 Pick 4 (4) (MIA), Round 1 Pick 25 (25) (MIA), Round 2 Pick 4 (36) (MIA)
MIA receives the following picks: Round 1 Pick 1 (1) (CINN)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1 (CINN): Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 24 (K.C.): Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU (A-)
Round 2 Pick 28: Lucas Niang, OT, TCU (A)
Round 3 Pick 4: KLavon Chaisson, DE/OLB, LSU (A-)
Round 3 Pick 24 (K.C.): Shane Lemieux, OG, Oregon (A)
Round 4 Pick 19: Chubba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 21: Julian Blackmon, CB, Utah (A)
Round 6 Pick 4: Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 21: Cesar Ruiz, C, Michigan (A+)
Round 7 Pick 24: Steve Nielsen, OT, Eastern Michigan (A+)
My wife like cruises!
I’m still curious as to what game plan included no pass rush?
So I’m looking into the Tunsil saying the league is targeting him thing and I’m reading this article from the Texans wire (see excerpt below). Why the hell do they associate his poor play with him being “the former Miami Dolphin”?
“It could be that Tunsil has a target on his back. However, the target seems to have gotten there thanks to some poor play on the former Miami Dolphins’ part as well. Nonetheless, it is an issue the Texans will have to correct or overcome as they gear up for the final three games of the season with two coming against the Tennessee Titans.”
Remember how our QB Fitzpatrick threw that INT on Sunday? Well the former Tampa Bay Buccaneer really looked like a stinking pile of shit on that play…
LOL, WTF?
Lol…a obviously if he was not a former Dolphin he wouldn’t be playing poorly.
Personally, I think Miami raped Houston on that trade.
Agreed, I think we came out ahead on that one by a mile.
So Tunsil is being targeted by refs bc he used to be a Miami Dolphin?
There are times when I think the refs are out to get us too
But this seems a little over the top for a Texans beat reporter
“the tape from the Patriots’ film crew contains eight minutes of direct Bengals sideline footage. Sources who viewed the recording told Dehner that it shows Bengals players running on and off the field as well as coaches calling plays.”
That’s a whole lot of “B footage” for some cable thing about the day in the life of the Pats advance scout. Or maybe it is exactly what a Pats advance scout does. 🙂
3: R1P3
DL DERRICK BROWN
AUBURN
22: R1P22
EDGE JULIAN OKWARA
NOTRE DAME
23: R1P23
QB JORDAN LOVE
UTAH STATE
35: R2P3
C TYLER BIADASZ
WISCONSIN
61: R2P29
RB D’ANDRE SWIFT
GEORGIA
67: R3P3
G SOLOMON KINDLEY
GEORGIA
144: R4P38
OT LUCAS NIANG
TCU
165: R5P21
S ANTOINE BROOKS JR.
MARYLAND
175: R5P31
WR MICHAEL PITTMAN JR.
USC
178: R5P34
EDGE KENNY WILLEKES
MICHIGAN STATE
181: R6P3
CB DARNAY HOLMES
UCLA
199: R6P21
TE MITCHELL WILCOX
SOUTH FLORIDA
208: R6P30
RB LAMICAL PERINE
FLORIDA
238: R7P25
CB TRAJAN BANDY
MIAMI
https://www.miamidolphins.com/news/ac-in-the-am-admiring-the-toughness-of-this-dolphins-team
• In his next day press conference on Monday, Coach Brian Flores didn’t want to focus on the penalty on Needham, instead pointing to the fact that his team had plenty of opportunities to win the game and could have done a better job stopping the Jets on that final drive.
• Flores did, however, discuss the anger he showed responding to the call. How his emotional response wasn’t about him, but his players. How much they put into each game and each week of preparation. How badly they want to win. How important this is to them. It all fueled the fire deep inside of Flores. “Again,” he said, “this isn’t about me at all.” Class act, don’t you think?
Every single thing I read, see, or hear about Flores gets me more and more pumped for next season. Get this coach some talent to work with and we are going to see results.
• Four days after he was claimed off waivers from the Philadelphia Eagles, wide receiver Mac Hollins was active and playing Sunday against the Jets. Shouldn’t be a surprise considering we have seen similar stories play out on this team all season long. Hollins played out of necessity with both Parker and Wilson injured and the depth chart thin to begin with. While he didn’t catch a pass, he did draw a 38-yard pass interference penalty in the third quarter that led to a Sanders field goal.
Nothing for Hollins to get excited about. Everything that happened on Sunday led to a Sanders FG, lol.
Deep pass to Parker led to a Sanders FG. Run by Fitz, Sanders FG. Kong made jalapeno poppers early Sunday morning, which led to a Sanders FG.
LOL @ Kong! There’s an awful lot of Dolphins hate speculation going on out there. Wow!
So far it definitely looks like we should get the better end of the Tunsil trade. That’s all dependent on how Grier does in the draft, so I’ll reserve judgement until at least tyhen, if not 2 years later.
^ uh, then, not tyhen, which is an exotic breed of hamster, ask Piggy and Pokey. lol
The tyhen hamster is know for its love triangles across the world
It’s said the there is a current tyhen 🐹 causing havoc between Sam Darnold and Adam Gase
So Fantasy Football Update…
Playoffs are set for this week for top 4 finishers..
#1 Toba vs # 4 Stanger
#2 ER vs # 3 Mike E..
Consolation side is
#5 Twice vs # 8 Piggy
# 6 Herd vs # 7 my wife.. who actually lost to me last week by .04 pts..
Congratulations to me!
LOL..
Not looking forward to facing the Tobanator….. but then just lucky sneaked in.
That .04 win was incredible. Closest have ever seen.
pretty sure closest ive seen to … at least I was on the right side of it .. 🙂 she already has the damn niners to crow about …
I’ve seen ties, but that was in the full point rounding days….. so probably not as close.
Kong made jalapeno poppers early Sunday morning, which led to a Sanders FG.
I had clean my monitor I laughed so hard I spit on it.
LOL, awesome 🙂
I laughed too but didn’t spit. Probably shouldn’t spit at the bar.
This blog cracks me up. Smart people saying stupid shit.
Nice write Mike E
Thanks Krishna
I can’t believe Sanders kicked 7 FGs. Didn’t really pay attention too the game.
It is probably the ONLY time I will ever say it resulted in a good loss. No loss is good! But, we didn’t tank. The tanking narrative is infuriating to me.
I knew Piggy would know about the Tyhen Hamster. Didn’t realize that’s where Sam Darnold got his “mono” from.
Zach had a good run with us!
Lol
Stay the course. Yikes!
Jordan Love is coming out
Not that there is anything wrong with that
Meh
Really hoped he wouldn’t come out and would transfer to a school like Oklahoma
Tyhen Hamster
They say they are hamster/dragon mixes
Firepokey
I like jalapeño poppers
The whole idea of this constant churning of the roster is to find hidden gems moving forward into next year. It’s a good process.
That and they need bodies because a lot of guys have gone down and/or shutdown for the year.
You know it’s sad when the beat writers are talking about Fins signing Lady next year. WTF!!
Excuse me while I go puke.
Never forget
Never!
Now it’s being talked about like that is the plan this offseason.
Somebody just kill me now.
It doesn’t make sense on so many levels. I wouldn’t worry about it.
As much as I liked STs coach Darren Rizzi, we didn’t see a drop off with new STs coach Danny Crossman. We’ve been one of the most consistent and exciting STs units in the league this year.
Uhg!!
Shawn Draper, Brandon Winey, Seth McKinney, Wade Smith, Taylor Whitley, Tim Provst, Rex Hadnot, Tony Pape, Anthony Alabi, Joe Toledo, Samson Satele, Shawn Murphy, Donald Thomas, Andrew Gardner, John Jerry, Jonathan Martin, Dallas Thomas, Billy Turner, Jamil Douglas and Isaac Asiata
Omar is right about the dolphins inability to successfully draft offense of lineman after the first round.
In my opinion it’s the number one reason we have been mediocre.
Holly shit!
And SCREW the Yankee’s!!!!!!!!!
That’s crazy. Yanks back to being the Yank-me’s.
Feel bad for you wyoming, but same time reminds me of when Cole left my Bucs. We let you guys have him cause knew a day we couldn’t afford him would come.
“Speaking Tuesday, Le’Veon Bell said he believes he still isn’t receiving enough touches.”
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Queue trade of Bell in 5, 4, 3…..oh wait guess they’ll have to wait until next year at this point. I dont think even Gase would cut him and get nothing back.
Nope, but I’d bet he’d love to do just that! He got plenty of “touches” at the bowling alley
Rockphin says:
December 11, 2019 at 6:30 am
Uhg!!
Shawn Draper, Brandon Winey, Seth McKinney, Wade Smith, Taylor Whitley, Tim Provst, Rex Hadnot, Tony Pape, Anthony Alabi, Joe Toledo, Samson Satele, Shawn Murphy, Donald Thomas, Andrew Gardner, John Jerry, Jonathan Martin, Dallas Thomas, Billy Turner, Jamil Douglas and Isaac Asiata
Omar is right about the dolphins inability to successfully draft offense of lineman after the first round.
In my opinion it’s the number one reason we have been mediocre.
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Before giving seer credit to the braided coconut lets consider this: How many of those are from rounds 2-3. Im only giving credit to someone who had a legit shot to be anything more than a backup. Ill be honest i really dont think ya get OL starters, or ones you can count on as long term starters past round 2, though i think sometimes the depth of the draft pushes some 2nd round graded prospects to the 3rd. The real problem we havent drafted OL well is we havent put an emphasis on it.
You want a long term LT, get him out of the top 10, most likely you have to get him out of the top 5. You might get a gem after that but it starts dropping off really fast past those ranges. OG canget one in the late 1st or top of the second, but not much deeper. OC probably same general range as OG, RT probably more middle of the first to late first, but i think you can get a pretty good one into the first of the second.
The problem is they arent sexy picks, dont get the fans juiced up, and a lot of times you want to grab the top pick out of a athletic skill position because they can really be electric. QB, DE, WR, CB, even RB and TE. You just have to sacrifice excitment for stable base, which having a good OL and DL does for you.
Not that I would want Brady here, but he would be a great person to show any QB how to prepare as a professional. That guy works hard, works with the receivers and always strives to win. That’s the type of person to learn from.
I work with a Bills fan who has been saying since the start of the 2019 season that Brady ends up in Miami next year. I’ve scoffed at him all year, but the rumors are starting to become unsettling.
There’s the coaches connections with Flores and O’Shea. Miami is east coast, which no doubt Brady wants to stay out there, and apparently Brady has a house in Miami. From our standpoint, like you referenced, there would be nobody better to mentor a new franchise QB, not to mention who better to reinforce the new Miami Dolphins mentality and culture that Flores is building.
I still have a hard time seeing it, no way you keep Brady and Fitz, and far more importantly, I’m drawing a damn line. No way I’m rooting for Brady. So I just don’t see it happening, lol.
Considering his age, i think id being him in as a special advisor or perhaps assistant QB coach, kinda a starting gig to get his new career started and we reap the benefits of parsing out some of the QB knowledge he has in an educational setting for our QB’s. Fitz would be a better field general than Brady i think, but having Brady as part of the QB room in a coaching capacity could have its merits.
Tim Knight says:
December 11, 2019 at 12:11 am
As much as I liked STs coach Darren Rizzi, we didn’t see a drop off with new STs coach Danny Crossman. We’ve been one of the most consistent and exciting STs units in the league this year.
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I agree, i think he has done an excellent job.
Tim Knight says:
December 10, 2019 at 10:01 pm
The whole idea of this constant churning of the roster is to find hidden gems moving forward into next year. It’s a good process.
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Yeah thats pretty much how it looks to me, kinda o like we are auditioning players and getting real game looks at them. I dont think cutting Lammons means that he wasn’t as good as this other guy they brought in, they just know that they could be getting looks at several players, getting time with them in the position rooms to evaluate their leadership and football knowledge so when next year rolls around they have that 90 man packed out with quality players that they know a lot better than it being the first time they have ever seen them in person. Its kinda of like backwards building a team, getting the best players for the next man up scenario before locking in on your starters. To me the best team is the one with the shallowest bottom, not necessarily the highest top.
The big problem with Brady would be salary. He’s always been willing to take less to help the team but if he’s getting paid as a QB, and not a QB coach or advisor, you can’t pay him upwards of $15M per year to be your QB. I mean you could, but would you want to?
Obviously we could afford it, but Brady to us as just a QB makes no sense. I could see him as a player coach though. They used have those in baseball….ever been one in football?
I put up with alot being a Dolphin fan…I don’t know if I would survive this.
Cole is getting $36 mil per year. A starting pitcher is lucky to get 36 starts in a season.
About $11,000 a pitch
lol, holy smokes.
Don’t worry guys I’m buying my Dolphins Brady jersey now
We should all chip in. Thank you!
You sure based on his history? 🙂
What an asshole!
https://sportsnaut.com/2019/12/seven-must-watch-games-for-nfl-week-15/
Dolphins vs Giants?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001086878/article/pi-review-to-be-discussed-following-2019-season
“The first year of pass interference replay review as been a tumultuous, if not downright aggravating one, but it might not make it to year two.”
And there was much rejoicing, drinking, and debauchery all around
From our standpoint, like you referenced, there would be nobody better to mentor a new franchise QB, not to mention who better to reinforce the new Miami Dolphins mentality and culture that Flores is building
Brady is NOT a good mentor. He is a ME tor. Like Favre he has not interest in helping younger QB’s “take his job”
You may be right about his attitude, I don’t really know what kind of QB mentor he is or would be. If so, then we don’t have anything to worry about.
Signing him would have to be with the explicit understanding he is the starter for a year or two for the purpose of mentoring our new QB, then has to hand the reigns over. Hopefully this is all a bunch of garbage talk, and he and his husband stay the hell away from our Fins.
Tom and Gisele are worth an estimated $580 mil. Whatever Brady does it won’t be about the money. Actually makes him wanting to go to a team like the Phins if the role is more than just playing QB more likely.
Brady is not coming here. If he goes anywhere other than the retirement home it will be to a ready made contender and that is not us
Agreed. I’m surprised this got discussed as much as it did.
So am I Tim
Rock – A QB doesn’t have to mentor another a QB to be a good example. He can just watch the way that player prepares and runs meetings with the WR’s and how he conducts himself in the QB room and on the field. I don’t think there’s many that could do that better than Brady.
I hate giving Coconut braids any props but he’s right about our OL woes. Almost every NFL team is loaded with starters that are 3rd rounders or lower. If you look at KC specifically, they have several really late rounders as starters and are very light on OL backups. They still won their division for the 3rd straight year. Flores looks like he will finally be the guy who teaches our young guys up.
Not true. Most teams have OL woes. There are 18 teams with losing records in the league. Even some of the better teams have OL issues including the Pats.
Ok…and there are 14 that have winning records and I can bet they have some OL that aren’t first and second rounders. It’s how you optimize your talent.
My point is that just because they’re not 1st or 2nd rounders and starters doesn’t mean they’re good. OL play is pretty bad throughout the league. Hopefully we’ll finally address it however we acquire them. I think Flores wants to be a strong running team. I’m sure we’ll be targeting OL in FA and the draft.
Very true. In the age of salary caps and FA, good enough is all you can expect.
Oh my the Brady news….fuck me
Are you serious? I don’t buy it.
I’m trying to get into Flores head.
And, why would Brady EVER want to do that. He wants goals noone will achieve. That’s not with the Dolphins.
Silly!
Wisdom….knowing the OL sucks. Hmmmmm.. knowing the importance of an OL I’ve NEVER really heard him speak about it, i.e. report on it.
That’s directed at the Omar content. Omar’s a dick.
New Age, part of the problem with OL play is very few young OL are NFL ready and teams can’t practice physical very often due to CBA rules. I hope we find good enough soon. 🙂
We need an OL. For me, it’s non negotiable .
Of course as do 20+ other teams. LOL
If you can put together a solid OL you’re playoff hopes go up quite a bit. I don’t care how the game as changed, the game is still won in the trenches most of the time. We see it every week.
Never forget
Ok…but it’s only a suggestion. Was he nuked in this post? I”m fine with him being nuked.
The only way I see this is…tankers have upped the anti. No way
There’s one for that too
Time to walk away…
From what?
Revisionist history?
Or
Just over stating the facts as everyone already knows?
(because I’m shocked to find out our OL is not very good)
It’s not like we haven’t tried!
We just failed miserably!
And it cost how many people their jobs????????????
Over stating the obvious much coconut?
Over the last 15+ years we simply have not been good enough in a lot of areas at different times. We’ve never had a sustainable quality team during that stretch. A couple of good years and that’s pretty much it. We need better players in a lot of areas now. But this is just the beginning. One thing we can say now is, we’re competitive and have a chance to win most weeks. That’s what impresses me about Flores and his staff, we’re competing with a mostly backup roster.
What happens when we add upgraded talent? 😉
There are positions I don’t think we have to target big time in FA or the top of the draft, but mostly I think just adding the best talent you can at any position changes things. You get better overall. Good players make a difference. I always look at FA and the draft like produce. If the market for apples is bad, don’t buy apples. Buy what looks good.
Tim,
I agree about the problems and find it sad that even the owners care less about the game than a little more money. Coaches need that extra time to make decent players. Not good, just decent.
I find the offseason to be just as interesting as the regular one. The team building aspect can be done in a lot of ways but there are some foundational truths that seem to always be true. You build in the trenches. You need 5-6 blue chips. Defense wins championships, etc, etc, etc.
It’s always interesting to see where a team builds their strengths. Tom Brady was average at best last year but a dominant defense, Gronk, and some good timing got them the ring. The Rams were awesome but a couple plays this year(and some lost talent) will probably make the difference between SB probable and no playoffs at all. The margin is thin and that’s why I hate the refs so much now. They literally can affect not just games but entire seasons. Too much power, too little responsibility, and too many bad decisions. The NFL needs to do better.
Agreed 100%!!! The NFL can be safe and let players play. We all know what’s out of line. How many coaches say football is not that complicated? It’s about playmakers at any position. Doing your job becomes a collective good. The more doing your job you have, the better the collective good.
Outside of a few players who are legit starters, and some are down for the year, we’re looking for another group of players to become the core to build on in the offseason. We’re still in Phase I, nothing has changed with the plan since January other then we’re deep into the season and the team knows more about the players they have, and how they fit or don’t. That evaluation will set the plan for the offseason. I agree that’s also a fun time of year. 🙂
So according to Miami Dolphins website , we have 17 players listed as IR… I actually thought was going to be more , as it seems every week we put at least 3 on IR… anyone know if there is a limit ?? Or, as someone stated just above ( sorry source I’m lazy) 🤡 will we have a full 90 players between IR and roster by week 17 so we can get a jump on next season .. keeping in mind a lot of these will be replaced, hopefully upgraded ..
I do look forward to what Flores can do with a more talented roster , when ya see how hard our No Names have played and competed in recent weeks.
And Finally
#justsaynobrady
Sources D and Tim ^^
Exactly!! We don’t even know who is playing week to week. LOL
This season has been a constant churn and audition. How else do you start a rebuild?
Stanger : no news on a Willie Jefferson signing ??
One story I read said they stopped his workout early cause had seen all they needed…. in a good way. But then he just my do a FA tour if he’s that good.
We focus on Grier a lot and rightfully so, but behind the scenes you have veteran college personnel man in Marvin Allen (Assistant General Manager), and Reggie McKenzie (Senior Personnel Executive) who specializes in pro talent. We’ve seen that at work all season. There’s only so much you can do in-season. This is also just getting started as the FO learns about their personnel.
It’s not just Grier wearing the king crown. He had thick enough skin to bring in personnel people who could take his job.
Phase II should be fun. 😉
Anyone else think we tackle better than in the recent past? That’s a Belichick trait. If you can’t tackle you can’t play here. It’s not perfect or anything, but I see better one on one tackling than I’ve seen in years from this team.
Mike E
Guess it’s you and me in the semis here.
Good luck man! 👍
Thanks ER, good luck to you pal!
Never Forget
Is it talk like a pirate day?
But ours was ruled interference.Yeah, sure it has been called consistently all year.
A Giant’s writer has an interesting ask about their next opponents — “Gimme Him: One player Giants would steal from Dolphins.” And guess his answer makes sense….. but who would have imagined that being the one a year ago?
Answer: https://giantswire.usatoday.com/2019/12/12/new-york-giants-steal-miami-dolphins-devante-parker-gimme-him/
I think a lot of teams are probably regretting passing up on Parker in a cheap trade (if reports are to be believed). I’m glad the team persevered with him and didn’t listen to the likes of me. I would have jettisoned him more than a year ago, lol.
Was cool with keeping him once saw the amount of the contract, but as cheap as it was shows how far he’d fallen. He’s always had the measurables and play skills, but injuries aside seemed well just lazy. This year is what we thought we got in the draft.
There is a language they speak that i understand very well.
People overstate the OL issue all the time. Frankly, most fans don’t have a clue whether or not the OL is playing good or bad anyway. They see 4 sacks and the OL sucked. Look at Dallas. Their OL is, supposedly, one of the best we’ve seen in decades. So why then is that team 6-7? This game is becoming more and more about the “stars” and the skill positions. It’s where the money goes, and it’s where the draft picks go. You still need guys who can make plays on offense no matter how good your OL is.
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And, just watch. When the draft comes around, everyone will be spouting the ridiculous refrain of: “You can wait to draft OL later in the draft.”
The OL is not why Dallas is 6-7 though