I’m just thrilled to be able to get stymie in a headline, even if we’re on the wrong side of it. It was almost destiny guys and girls, you could almost feel that Eli was supposed to get a good game in what most likely was his final game in front of his home crowd at Met Life Stadium in New Jersey. A little feel good moment for the QB is who in the process of being ousted by this year’s #6 pick, QB Daniel Jones. The future of the Giants is #8 (Daniel Jones), but for a day, all was copacetic in northern Jersey and the fans got a nice memory of Eli playing well enough to win. Let’s face it, Eli’s record with the Jints the last 3 years is 9-26. If this seems like a Giants article, my apologies. Not gonna deny the fact that this game was not about our team, and I’m not insinuating that it was fixed or preordained or anything, but it sure did follow the story line of Eli going out on top.
On our side, Ryan Fitzpatrick is such a gamer it’s impossible not to admire and respect his efforts each and every week. On a positive note, Ryan Fitzpatrick was NOT the leading rusher this week. We actually very quietly had some success rushing and Laird and Gaskin combined for 88 yards rushing, Laird had 46 yards on 12 carries and Gaskin averaged nearly five yards a pop with 43 yards on 9 carries. DeVante Parker added 2 more TD’s coming off his concussion last week and continues to be a very bright spot and a beacon of hope for the future of this team.
While I want to see Josh Rosen play, at this point I think if I were Brian Flores it would be very difficult to tell Fitzpatrick to grab some pine the way he has played. He has been literally sacrificing his body every game for real, the anti Jay Cutler if you will. Not only that, but Fitzpatrick is playing pretty well, certainly well enough for the team to win. Our defense seemed to be willing to cooperate with the happy send off this week, but I think they will be back this week. A few more of our youngins have gone on IR, DB Ken Webster and Ken Crawley. Each and every week it’s a shuffle in the defensive backfield.
It’s an odd time, you want to see the team play well but you’re also cognizant of the fact that a loss while disappointing may put us in a position to get a player we covet. In the past I would always prefer the loss to get the player I want but I think our team isn’t going to be a team of susperstars, but rather a team of guys who can certain things well and are willing to do what they need to do as well learn various things to help the team. In other words, if we can’t get Chase Young, don’t sweat it. We’re going to get selfless players here, and I think we’ll be a better team for it.
GO DOLPHINS!!
#staythecourse
Finsmob Unleashed 
Yeah, the D was no match for old vet Manning on Sunday. It’s amazing how fearless Fitz is, at his age, against young bone crushers. He’s no Marino, by a long shot, but the legend must admire his toughness for the team. Also, because his O line sucks.
He’s fun to watch
But I cringe a little when he runs so much – he’s probably pushed it a little too far the last couple of weeks
I’m glad Fitz is our QB, and yeah he’s no Marino, but there’s always a place for guys like him in the nfl. He can play as long as he likes. And he seems to be really enjoying himself this season.
I just wished we saw more Rosen
Think our eager but young and not so talented secondary was tailor made for a crafty vet like Eli. And Manning could adjust to the multiple looks too.
Mike E — agree with you that regardless where we pick the team looks in good hands. At the end of Gase’s first year was like “not as good as I hoped.” With Flores it is “better than I thought would be.” He’s proved he can be a head coach, which was the big Q.
Still now in tank mode though, even if am sure the guys on the field won’t be.
Catching up on some of the Landry takes here and on Twitter the last couple of days
I haven’t watched a lot of the Browns this season or Landry
But I watched him for 4 years in Miami every week
And the idea that he is a “me first” player is crazy
Landry was the heart of the Dolphins for four years
We should know what he is from watching him, instead of some clip from his confrontation with a bad coach
Take a look at his stats this year and his career
He’s been very productive in Cleveland and this year
There’s not a lot of guys, maybe not any over 6000 yards with close to 600 catches in 6 seasons
The situation in Cleveland is a disaster
They made some moves that were bound to bring attention to their team
But don’t compare Landry and his coach fighting after a lost season is lost to AB forcing a release before the season ever started
Landry and OBJ have faced a lot of criticism over the years, some of it ignorant if you ask me
I don’t judge football players on whether they have a pleasant personality to share a beer with
I judge them on their production as pros
If Cleveland is smart they will try to salvage their talent instead of doing a tear down and maybe move in a different direction in n coaching or even the FO
Landry is still killing it in terms of production on the field
If
1. his long term health checks out
2. He comes out
3. Burrow and Young go 1 and 2
I’m taking Tua, and looking to the next 4 picks to add OL, DL/Edge and RB
Pig,
I don’t think labeling Landry (or OBJ) me first players is crazy at all. Sure they produce, and how many unnecessary unsportsman like penalties did Landry get that hurt our team in his years here? Always excused because he’s ‘passionate’. So are Fitzgerald and Hopkins not ‘passionate’? And how often do you see stud like Larry Fitzgerald complaining about not getting the ball? Or Hopkins? Those are two examples of unselfish WRs, not players like Landry or OBJ that seem to need to make everything about them.
I agree with you, that you can’t compare Landry to AB, two completely different things. I wouldn’t touch AB, but I’d still take a Landry on my team, while understanding he’s going to be a pain in the ass, and potentially divisive if things don’t go well. Even with Landry’s antics, I was a fan while he was here. But the fact is, he’s a look at me player, and look at me players deserve all the extra attention (including the negative) that they bring on themselves IMO.
I don’t think penalties like that make someone a me first player
Landry didn’t hesitate to block for us
He didn’t rally the team against the FO or the QB while he was
He was very scrappy and fiery for us and it was about winning not his ego
Those penalties just go into the big picture of whether you think a guy is worth it or not
It doesn’t warrant making the guy out to be a player who will kill your team – that’s not what he is
Phins are favorites on Sunday. First time this year, but only by 1.5 points at home. Means on a neutral field the bookies would still take Cincy.
The Bengals still have an outstanding DL!
That doesn’t bode well for the Fins!
I find it hilarious to read OBJ complaining about how the league is always targeting him as he and Landry purposely wear shoes that violate the dress code simply to draw attention to themselves (just one example), yet this is a person that wants and seeks extra attention, then complains when he gets extra negative attention to go with all the love he so desperately desires.
Dolphins are 2% points ahead of the Redskins now. We need the NFC east to keep winning.
Luckily for us they play each other at the end of the season
It’s tough to know who to root for. It’ll be a lot easier if we just lose to Cincy. Then we can root for the Giants, and we’ll have a damned good shot at the #2.
The more I think about it, The best thing that could happen is Burrow and Tua being picked before ours!
Then we can concentrate on OL,RB, DE, and CB!
Then let Rosen have a prove-it year!
Just my 2 pennies!
That will only happen right now if the giants pick a QB
Which won’t happen
The giants are all about Chase Young if he’s there
The team picking 4th – the redskins probably won’t be picking a QB either
The selection of haskins and Jones last season makes a QB more likely for us
I wouldn’t mind waiting a year for a QB
But if burrow and young are off the board
I’m probably looking at Tua if I beleive he’s healthy
If we pick anywhere from 1-4 we can probably have whomever is left between Burrow or Tua short of a trade up
Right now Andrew Thomas is the the only OL that should be picked in the top 5
I’m not sure that we can’t do well picking an OT in the 20s with our 1b or 1c
We even might be able to get an OT with our early second
It’s a very deep draft for OT
…Not to mention a possible OT in FA.
It’s very possible for The Giants or Redskins to trade out though! if we pick at #4?
The Skins would probably be the biggest threat for a trade down.
If we pick at #3 we will probably have to pick between Tua and Thomas?
I’m just saying that it wouldn’t hurt my feelings if we didn’t even draft a QB this year!
I think Eli was playing inspired, i think the team was rallying around him and we also couldn’t really contain their running game. All of that contributed.
Im kinda ok with losing to him, i mean the win would have been nice, and i dont mean that as far as draft position because im really not worried about it one way or the other, BUT i kinda like Eli as a player, i think he has been a really great pro, i think he did a lot for that team and im kinda happy for him that he got a win to pretty much seal out his career there.
If we are picking in the top three, i want one of these three. Burrow, Young or Thomas. If we are 4th (where i picked us to wind up) add Tua to the list, as long as he passes physicals at combine, Jeudy if he doesnt. I know we have Parker, Wilson, Grant, Hurns, and Williams, but injuries happen and that group seems injury prone. Id be ok dropping Wilson and drafting Jeudy if we pick 5 or 4th and Tua is not looking to be recovering well. 6th im looking for Brown or one of the ones i have listed above. I really dont see up picking deeper than 6th.
Think the worst we pick is #5 unless another Miami Miracle happens in the final game.
Piggy,
Perhaps we just have a different idea or standard of what a ‘me first’ player is. You say for him it’s about winning and not his ego. That may be right, but i wouldn’t say it definitively or that I know that. I think the two can go hand in hand, and I personally think for Landry it’s both. I think if Landry doesn’t get his touches, at some point he’ll be a divisive voice. I think he’s a “just get me the damned ball” guy, like OBJ, like Keyshawn Johnson, like Ocho Cinco, like TO, etc.
I think a selfish player can, and usually does still produce, including in blocking. I do think that continually taking unnecessary penalties to satisfy your emotion does make a person selfish (I’m not talking about a mistake or two, but rather a pattern of taking bad penalties like Landry did while here.)
All that said, I think you can do fine with a player like that on the team as long as you have a strong coach and your team doesn’t suck for too long. But I put Landry in the selfish category. He’s not Hopkins, or Fitzgerald, or Julio Jones, or AJ Green, or any of the myriad Saints WRs that seem to just go out and do their jobs and don’t have to be the center of attention.
All JMHO of course.
Cheers 🙂
One last thing. Cleveland is a hot mess. Part of it is coaching, and IMO part of it is they have too many me first players that don’t rally together, but instead become divisive and start shouting to other teams to “come get me”. That is rallying against the team, FO or coachs especially when they have to know Kitchens is gone after this year.
I think Kitchens was a bad hire from the get go, but the mutiny thats going on is hiring a bunch of malcontents and putting them on one team to breed more malcontent. This isnt only his fault, but he cant handle it, and that should have been known from the start. I have said it before, but i think you have to clean house when you start over with coaching. You need a base of people who gel with that coach and help breed the positive attitude and loyalty traits so the new ones that come in start off in that place. What we did is and was the most appropriate thing to give a new head coach a chance for success.
I agree, i think its inevitable that if you have a player thats dominant, they will typically have a very dominant personality. The question about selfish is how in control they are of it. Out there and not in control brings penalties, and not “doing your part” as those guys generally want to make all the plays. Its not a bad personality, it just needs to be cultured to realize the best way to produce is to go with the game plan and not your desires to make plays on every snap. Wilkins has a big personality, but he is working to keep it under control on the field. Its awkward for him i think, which is why we haven’t seen an explosion of dominance right now but i think he is figuring it out. We need passionate guys, but we need them to be disciplined pro’s.
Jeudy is a developing QB’s wet dream. He runs perfect routs, he catches everything thrown his way and he has both elite quickness and speed, with better than average size. If we roll with Rosen, thats going to help him, if we drft a guy lower than our top pick its going to help them too. Pair him with Williams who is a big guy, rz threat, with good speed, Parker who is a contested throw guy, with good speed, and then Jeudy who can do most all the rest of the routes, and Grant out of the slot. Thats a sick set of receivers and we can move on from Wilson and his contract. Id call that an almost perfect set of receivers. Add in someone like Swift, Ettienne, or Edwards-Helaire and we have a very potent offense. Throw some of those Georgia fatties into the mix at OL and just watch the scoring.
Agreed with everything you wrote above, D. And you perfectly brought it back around to what we are doing here by starting from scratch. It’ll be interesting to see our progression next year. And I don’t want to see us do what Cleveland did bringing in a bunch of high priced FAs. We’ve made that mistake too many times in the past. Let’s continue to build through the draft. We’re almost through the painful fire of this season, lol.
Wow, reports out there are saying Edelman’s knee injury may be more series than initially thought. As it stands, even with a healthy Edelman their chances aren’t great. If the Pets lose Edeleman or he is limited the rest of the year, they have no shot.
It would be really nice for them to lose to the Bills this Sunday, have to play on WC weekend, and for them to get knocked the F out in the opening round. Then I could just enjoy the playoffs without the stench of the Pets clinging to everything 🙂
lol, serious, not series
I’m picking up what you’re putting down, CK! Always rooting for Edelman to get broken in half and/or Brady sent into an early retirement.
I’d say that is one thing we can all definitely all agree on. 🙂
Colts have an elite O line and average qb. Dolphins have below average to poor O line and above average qb. Colts have three more wins than the Dolphins. Imagine Fitz with Colts O line?
But remember…we beat the colts
The colts are going nowhere fast, even though their OL is impressive
They became particularly limited on offense when Luck retired
The Flying Pig says:
December 17, 2019 at 12:03 pm
Right now Andrew Thomas is the the only OL that should be picked in the top 5
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you can bet the Redskins will draft him if they are drafting before us with the Trent Williams uncertainty.
Good point
Uncertainty is mild…
not sure about Tua, the guy can’t even walk, need to get medical advice on him. trading back seems the best option at #4 as Burrow, Young and Thomas should be gone.
By March everyone is going to have a good idea of where he is medically
Right now , we are all in the dark
The Flying Pig says:
December 17, 2019 at 12:03 pm
Right now Andrew Thomas is the the only OL that should be picked in the top 5
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I don’t know?
I’d probably take Wirfs over Jeudy?
I think Wirfs is top 10 worthy but it’s kinda of a stretch in the top 5
This sort of stuff doesn’t mean much of a team really likes a guy
But when we have two later picks in the first round and Wirfs or another OT May be there, I’m not sure Wirfs is the right pick in the top 5
If we end up in the 5-10 range a whole bunch of possibilities open up
But to me passing on Tua for a guy like Wirfs indicates no faith in Tua’s medical
I think Jeudy is probably a higher rated prospect than Wirfs
But there are differences in positional priority and needs that may elevate a player like Wirfs or another Ol over Juedy
I wouldn’t sleep on Okudah or Derrick Brown in the top 5. I think Okudah is to DBs in this draft as Juedy is to WRs. Also, Brown has given O-lines fits the last couple seasons, including getting constant pressure up the middle on LSU and Alabama this year.
They wouldn’t surprise me
In fact I prefer either to OL just bc I think we can get OL at 1b or 1c or in the 2nd round
But if Tua is healthy it’s hard to pass him IMO
Very true.
Typical NYC commute
Everyone should be rooting for the Lions and Giants this week –
I think that pretty much solidifies the 3 picks if we beat the bengals
I didn’t do the math but that seems
I think if we lose to the bengals there is also a chance we move into the 2 spot
If you assume we lose to the patriots (which is a pretty safe assumption in foxboro)
Then it’s safe to assume we are picking anywhere from 2-4
Lions have the Packers in week 17, so we really need them to get a win against the Broncos this weekend to ensure we stay ahead of them.
Unfortunately for us, I think Detroit gave up 2 months ago.
Only reason to root for the Giants is if you think we will lose. If we win then much better the Skins win. Key thing is almost sure the Giants beat us in the SOS tiebreaker and neck ‘n neck btwn us and the Skins.
If we win
If the giants win, the redskins SOS increases and we will solidify the 3 pick
If the redskins win the giants, redskins all us go into the final week of the season with 4-11 records, there’s a chance we fall to 4
So the Giants winning increases the likelihood of a higher pick
If we lose though, we have a shot at 2 if the giants win
Bc we still have SOS I’ve redskins
Giants (and lions) win and we will be either 2 or 3
Redksins (and lions) win and we might be 4
That’s why you have to root for giants
Agree with all that, but still comes down to we can’t beat the Giants in a SOS tiebreaker. So lose we want it to be against the Skins (who we might be able to beat on that) and if we win want Skins too as well….. for the very same reason.
Win or lose we’ll have the same wins as either the Skins or GIants.
How about Brees going 29/30, breaking the single game comp% record, and his only missed pass was an easy check down?
Rooting for any teams for draft position doesn’t have any bearing on what will happen. 😉
Let it play out and we’ll see where we’re slotted and go from there. We’ll also know more about which prospects will be worthy when we pick. That has not been decided in December.
Says the guy who caused the Dolphins to lose by attending the game…
Didn’t ya’ll want to lose? By the way, it wasn’t just because I attended the game, it was because I wore the wrong hat. LOL
LOL
I thought it might be the hat
Why would you wear this
Actually losing was probably good for draft position buts that debatable
Jerk!
Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me. Fuckface!!!
Seriously though, we’ve all seen it happen during the draft process. Some other OT will move up the board, another pass rusher, a CB, DT, OG etc., and maybe even a QB. It happens all the time.
Those draft simulators will look a lot different in late February until the draft.
We’re going to have a good slot no matter the outcome, so that is awesome I guess, lol. And you’re right, this draft will likely play out much differently than every single simulation that has been shown on the board.
But hey, rather than twiddle our thumbs for the next two weeks, this gives us something to talk about and root for besides Belicheat and Brady contracting syphilis.
It also gives us something to talk about other than Tannehill, Landry, and Gase. LOL
Unless you want to weigh in…what do you think about Tannehill as a QB? 😉 lmao
A good football conversation at this time in the season would be who currently on this team looks good to compete for a spot in 2020.
The most glaring NEED I see is pass rush on defense and blocking overall up front on offense. Of course a young QB to build around is huge. But we need those two other areas regardless.
I’m slowly working on my list of core guys who come back in 2020 to compete for a significant spot or playing time. I’ve seen some good from a lot of different young players.
S: Mccain, Aikens
CB: Xavien, Needham, Rowe
LB: Baker, Biegel, Van Ginkel, Eguavoen
DE: Charlton
DT: Wilkins, Gochaux, Jenkins
WR: Parker, Williams, Ford, Hurns
KR: Grant
TE: Gesicki
RB: Laird, Gaskins both as backups
QB: Fitz
OL: Dieter, I honestly don’t know
P/K: Sanders, Haack
That would be my nucleus. I’d get rid of Jones, Wilson, and all the detritus, and look to add 20 or so players through the draft and FA.
To be a very good defense, we need upgrades in the secondary too. At least another starting CB and safety.
Agreed. I think Needham might actually end up being pretty solid, but Rowe needs an upgrade, and I don’t know who’s playing next to Mccain, but I doubt it’s Jones.
Plus, we need X to stay on the field.
Good point. It’s also just an assumption he comes back and plays at a high level. CBs can deteriorate quickly.
If we had a more legitimate pass rush we could win with this secondary. Seeing the game live it’s so apparent that we have no big time pass rushers. We have a solid group of lunchpail guys and guys who can blitz. We need edge rushers who get to the QB often and have to be accounted for.
I think Edge, OL and QB are our first order of business in 2020.
We need a couple of pieces on the Dline, especially the edges with pass rush ability, a couple of DBs, a starting RB or even better two, two or three olinemen, a future statring QB, and an upgrade to our TEs.
I think we can roll with our current LBs, WRs, and kicking duo.
I’m going to have to disagree. I think a very good secondary is as important as a pass rush nowadays. Let’s be honest, we really didn’t play many of the better QBs/offenses this year. We played the nfc east and of course afc east, plus the afc north which has the Bungles, Steelers, and Browns. Not to mention Indy playing a QBs that no business even being a backup.
I agree with you. We certainly need pass rush, but I think we have a couple of JAGs in the secondary to go with some good pieces, and that unit can afford to be upgraded as well.
I wouldn’t write off Wilson just yet. He’s been showing more giddyup in his step down the stretch. He may be ready to ball in 2020.
WR is not a position of concern for us. Isaiah Ford has put himself into the mix as well. If I had to choose it would be RB and depth at TE. But if a WR we really like is there, so be it. Add the best prospects when you can.
I think it’s more of having too many, and If you keep Parker, Grant, Williams, and Ford, then you have Hurns and Wilson. So if you add a piece one of those two definitely has to go. We could roll with them, but I’d probably get rid of Wilson and/or Hurns, and give us room to add another guy
Of course, I’d just get rid of Grant if it weren’t for his kick off ability. I don’t think he’ll ever be a very good receiver, just a speed guy.
It will work itself out. They’re not all making the team.
Yep, it will. I was just projecting my 2020 thoughts on it…
Lol….we need just about everything. Triage comes to mind.
It’s still a best player available for me, as in QB, OL, DL edge, CB, RB, WR….Oh my. Just BPA and for all our holes.
True but Hulk wants QB
Lol, yeah, we’re still going to have a roster with holes in it next year. We won’t be able to fix everything.
It’ll be curious to see if they do go BPA at the front of the draft and let that dictate how to build the deficiencies in the roster next year, or if they will have a particular plan in place and move up and down the board to go after certain guys.
Nice write up Mike E
The Flying Pig says:
December 17, 2019 at 2:49 pm
Everyone should be rooting for the Lions and Giants this week –
I think that pretty much solidifies the 3 picks if we beat the bengals
I didn’t do the math but that seems
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Damn, every year at this time we are usually doing this to try too squeak into the playoffs, My how things have changed!
That’s just it, not every area of the team is going to be addressed from 2019/20. But next season is a start going to the next level. The unknown commodity upgrades. 😉
I always feel when you’re not a proven playoff or recent top team, getting yourself to 6-6 to 8-4 with 4 to go gives you a chance. If you can stay in the race, it’s always about how you play down the stretch. That’s what I want to see next year at the minimum. Be in the mix after the midway point.
Here’s the cheat sheet for you guys (assumes we lose to the Pats).
Beat the Bengals (+ Lions loss) — gonna be #4 or #5.
Beat the Bengals (+ Lions win) — #3 or #4
Lose to the Bengals — #2 or #3.
Yep, that pretty much sums it up.
I’ll take it one step further and more complicated…
Miami loses both games, Washington beats Giants this week, Cincy beats Cleveland next week, and Giants beat Philly next week, we should then get the #1 pick. Lol.
#1 still possible but if the Bengals let that happen they don’t deserve it anyhow.
Not sure what McMillan’s injury is but hopefully just a shut it down thing like with Howard and McCain.
After Burrow and Young, I would still not pick Tua in first 5 due to his durability and worth.
I would go with BPA, at OL, Brown, best WR, Jeudy or best DB.
And, because you have so many to fill for following, you take BPA. Talent acquisition.
And with all the picks, we should be able to maximize these opportunities.
…for following year as in 2021.
While waiting to see how Tua heals, his medical HISTORY makes it more disturbing. He seems fragile.
He would never survive our OL woes and there’s no guarantee the OL will be a lot better next year. Hopefully, above putrid next year.
We have to upgrade our OL no matter who is our QB
We have two other pics in the first and an early 2nd rounder
I doubt we start anymore than 2 rookies in the OL next year
3 or more rookies in the OL is probably just as dangerous as a no talent OL
I don’t think you pass a potential franchise QB bc you need to work on your OL. I think you prioritize working on your OL after you acquire that guy.
Tua has the same injury as Bo Jackson, and Bo doesn’t know fragile!
By March I think doctors are sophisticated enough to understand where he is in terms of a full recovery or not
If he doesn’t get the okay by the doctors in March, you can’t take him in the top 5 – but if he does… I wouldn’t pass him up unless it’s for a chase young or a burrow
I wasn’t prioritizing an OL over Tua and I don’t think Tua is what all the pundits project him to be. Brady Quinn comes to mind
Marcus Mariota? There’s been many “franchise” QBs picked in the top 5 that were never franchise QBs. Please.
Ryan Leaf was exceptional.
Miami Dolphins
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We have signed linebacker Calvin Munson off New England’s practice squad and placed linebacker Raekwon McMillan on injured reserve.
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LMAO, PLEASE let that guy stick with the team. He’ll always bring me back to one of my favorite movie lines and moments ever!
“I’d sooner get Munsoned out here in the middle of nowhere than lose face in front of my friends and family.”
Kingpin?
That’s the one. LOL, great movie
We got 2 pro bowlers. Minkah Fitzpatrick and Laremy Tunsil. Oh wait a minute
Tunsil is not a pro-bowler. MTM is questionable.
Yes he is:
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Oi! This is why the popularity contest known as the Pro Bowl means so little.
Pro bowl is picked by the players
Exactly. Along with the fans
Minkah Fitzpatrick is a very good young player but let’s not over do it as the media tries to play it. Just like with Kenyan Drake, they like to jerk off about them but it’s not an every game occurrence. LOL
It’s an obvious pounce of negative from the typical goofball South Florida media.
When Laremy Tunsil was with us he was a LT that had to take the next step. Once he was traded he was automatically a top LT. LOL
Yeah okay. Now he’s calling out officials for calling him for too many false starts. That was his issue in Miami. Do you pay him 5 years $70M+? I don’t. I’ll take the two 1’s and a 2 with the exchange of mid and late round picks.
Thanks for the write up Mike E.
Good work as usual.
#staythecourse
Kong, I know what you were saying. I’m spewing my own thing. 🙂
We all know pass rush, blocking up front on offense and a young QB is paramount. Not everything has to be perfect in 2020. LOL
If we have Howard, McCain, Rowe, Needham and someone else as our top 5 DBs we can win with them… if we have a formidable pass rush.
The Giants have struggled in pass pro like we have for years. We gave Eli a Brady-like ‘tea party’ pocket too often. We can’t play the defense we want to play without better pass rushers. If we had that, our ‘current’ secondary is serviceable.
Not saying don’t upgrade DB if you can. I see us moving on from Reshad Jones who rarely plays healthy or not. Maybe he’ll have a good year with another team. I think it’s time to move on.
Case in point Ken – Tom Brady was voted into the Pro Bowl this year. He has been average at best.
Phelon, I though that Brady was NOT voted in this year. I do agree, however, that the Pro Bowl is not a true measurement of a players actual performance.
You are correct. I misread that headline.
Ken — when you type “Minkah Fitzpatrick and Laremy Tunsil” my mind reads as “3 first round picks.” 🙂
I got the “Beef”!
3: R1P3 QB JOE BURROW LSU
22: R1P22 OT ALEX LEATHERWOOD ALABAMA
23: R1P23 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN
35: R2P3 EDGE YETUR GROSS-MATOS PENN STATE
62: R2P30 RB D’ANDRE SWIFT GEORGIA
67: R3P3 G SOLOMON KINDLEY GEORGIA
146: R4P38 LB JOE BACHIE MICHIGAN STATE
168: R5P21 WR DENZEL MIMS BAYLOR
178: R5P31 S KYLE DUGGER LENOIR-RHYNE
181: R5P34 OT SAAHDIQ CHARLES LSU
184: R6P3 EDGE CHRISTIAN RECTOR USC
202: R6P21 G JON RUNYAN MICHIGAN
210: R6P29 TE MATT BUSHMAN BYU
242: R7P26 RB ZACK MOSS UTAH
That would be great
All-Pro voting is the most legitimate award for an NFL player. Pro Bowl is more of a popularity vote.
Who would be your team MVP for this year? Fitz? Parker? Gesicki? Baker?
WTF – What is everyone here stymied?
I had some unripe bananas earlier that are sitting so well
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stangerx says:
December 18, 2019 at 12:30 pm (Edit)
Ken — when you type “Minkah Fitzpatrick and Laremy Tunsil” I think of mutinous fuckface and 3 first RD picks. TIFI!
Wohoooo! High score! 😉
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 3: Chase Young, DE/OLB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 22: Grant Delpit, FS/SS, LSU (A)
Round 1 Pick 31 (SEA): Kristian Fulton, CB, LSU (A)
Round 2 Pick 3: Larrell Murchison, DT, NC State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 26 (SEA): Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn (A-)
Round 2 Pick 30: Creed Humphrey, C, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 3 Pick 3: Tommy Kraemer, OG/OT, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 4 Pick 19: Zack Moss, RB, Utah (A+)
Round 5 Pick 21: Ty Tyler, DE/OLB, Marshall (A+)
Round 6 Pick 3: Michael Pittman, WR, USC (A+)
Round 6 Pick 21: Anthony McFarland, RB, Maryland (A+)
Round 7 Pick 26: Steven Gonzalez, OG, Penn State (A+)
Heavy emphasis on defense
If we ended up with Young and Delpit..lookout
And still managed to address OL
If we don’t go QB in 2020 this kind of draft makes sense to make an immediate impact
FYI Delpit is better than Minkah will ever be
And is probably willing to be the Swiss Army knife Minkah never was willing to be
Dont fully agree with that statement, college Minkah compared to Delpit, is really similar. Still, one didnt want to stay here and be what we needed so its kinda moot.
I think Deloitte is a better prospect along the lines of Adams who I also think is better than Minkah
Delpit
D says:
December 18, 2019 at 4:19 pm
Who would be your team MVP for this year? Fitz? Parker? Gesicki? Baker?
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Parker has become a good receiver to the tune of 954 yds, and 8 TDs so you could make a case there. That puts him at 21st in yds, and tied for 3rd in TDs, but I personally would have to go with Fitz. I think his attitude and leadership have helped get this team (and us fans!) through a brutal season and likely helped Flores to instill the right kind of mentality.
I agree with ya. His numbers arent great, but his leadership and vetran contribution i think has been huge. That was the main reason i was kinda pulling for them to get him in FA over a lot of the others, including Bridgewater and Tyrod Taylor.
D says:
December 18, 2019 at 4:19 pm
Who would be your team MVP for this year
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Fitz! If he doesn’t inspire the team with his play, we are win less! And I’ve broke 3 TV’s!
Should I stay or should go. Stanger will like that. 🙂
Awesome memory Tim. That was one clip I put out months ago.
Do you think I persuaded him
No but you did sound like ya might wanna pork him.
LOL
That can definitely be read in two ways. LOL
And another guy who is simply a joy and somehow can’t wrap his head around what this season has been about. Is it groundhog’s day with these guys where they wake up to the same day every day?
Does anyone even know what our lineup will be week to week? Anyone realize how many of our better players are on IR? We were a thin roster to begin with and now we’re suppose to be better? I think that groundhog’s day is their first day on the job. LOL
I honestly don’t even read Doh!mar or ArmanDoh! anymore. They rarely inform, they just give ill-formed and horribly biased opinions. F$%# ’em.
D – Probably go with Baker MVP and Parker as Comeback Player of the Year
Eh, you’d have to be somewhere to come back, so make that most improved player
Fitz MVP
I can’t really pick an MVP. MVP for 3-11? I think our best players this year have been Baker on defense and Parker on offense. Sure Fitz has helped some of the young guys develop, but he’s also a bit of a sandlot QB. I think the team will vote him MVP though, and that’s what really matters.
I don’t think 3-11 means you can’t have a fan MVP. We were supposed to be winless and have the worst team in the history of the universe. People were talking about how we should be punished by the league because we were so obviously tanking, so if anything this team is filled with overachievers and has a slew of team MVP candidates. LOL
The fans who have put up with this season without griping at every turn are the MVPs
Spot on!
I change my vote, lol.
If Tua is smart he’ll declare for the draft this year. When he gets injured next season, if he’s still in college, it will likely ruin his chance to make some money before he has to quit the game due to being made out of sugar crystals.
How about Fuckface of the Year? Anyone have an inkling who I might vote for? lol
LMAO!!!!
LOL, it can be called the Dion Jordan Legacy Award.
I like it Kong!
Kong – Giving Jahndoh some bad bad company there . . .
Jahn’s still in good shape. The exclamation is like an accent, changes the whole meaning of the doh(!), lol.
LOL
With a couple of games left, we’ll still compete and 1-1 is totally possible. So at 4-12 we’re likely 3-5 in the draft. So what?!!!! The next decade is based on one pick?
Did the Ravens know Lamar Jackson was there for them at #32 in December of 2017? 😉
I doubt we get Love in the 3rd but there it is
3: R1P3
EDGE CHASE YOUNG
OHIO STATE
22: R1P22
DL JAVON KINLAW
SOUTH CAROLINA
23: R1P23
C TYLER BIADASZ
WISCONSIN
35: R2P3
OT AUSTIN JACKSON
USC
62: R2P30
RB D’ANDRE SWIFT
GEORGIA
67: R3P3
QB JORDAN LOVE
UTAH STATE
146: R4P38
RB J.K. DOBBINS
OHIO STATE
168: R5P21
CB ERIC STOKES
GEORGIA
178: R5P31
WR DENZEL MIMS
BAYLOR
181: R5P34
CB DARNAY HOLMES
UCLA
184: R6P3
S MYLES DORN
NORTH CAROLINA
202: R6P21
TE MITCHELL WILCOX
SOUTH FLORIDA
210: R6P29
WR COLLIN JOHNSON
TEXAS
242: R7P26
S JEREMIAH DINSON
AUBURN
MVP, Kenyan Drake!
he hasn’t put us in difficult 2nd and long situations since his trade!
🙂
Piggy – I want love all throughout the draft, I want to love every selection. I’ve considered doing another draft party but the last time I did that our draft was a nightmare. For the same reason I don’t want to watch a game at Slatterys I don’t want to jinx our draft by having another Draft Party. Is that silly?
Well if you are gonna throw a draft party this is the year to do it. “the Miami Dolphins select” is gonna be the most used phrase in the first 2 rounds of the draft.
Do you remember the last one? All that promise of one 1st RD pick, two 2nd RD picks, two 3rd RD picks. Not quite the ammo we have next year, but we really FUBAR’ed that draft big time.
It was fun hanging with everyone though as per usghe. I should make a poll and let people vote. I expect those of you out of state to fly in for this though, so be careful how you vote! 😉
Up to you Mike E — but I wouldn’t get so concerned about jinxing it. But how would you do it? Thurs and Fri are the key days, but they are work days.
And while double checking the dates there it was:
“Most selections (13): Miami Dolphins”
What Flores said about starting Fitzpatrick over Rosen is right in line with what I said in this article. How can you take him out of the lineup the way he has played and sacrificed his body time and time again for the team? Answer is, you can’t. As much as I want to see Rosen play, and play well of course, I think it’s going to have to wait until next year if he’s up for the competition. I’m not even sure if he gets the chance, although to cut him would sting. At worst he’s a serviceable backup I would hope.
Completely agree
Stanger, would have to make it a Friday night and Saturday thing. I forgot they made they draft on Thursday, that’s a tough thing to work around.
Don’t think they were worried about draft parties when they did that. All about TV ratings. Put the first round in prime time on Thurs. Dudes can’t tell their wives staying on Fri or Sat nite.
Mike – you are so superstitious!
It’s not where you watch the game or the draft that makes the difference
It’s the hat Tim wears than can kill you!
LOL! I am superstitious. It’s pretty silly.
You a fan of baseball, you by law have to be superstitious.
Lol, first to Kong, (!) has a whole different meaning to me and its not accent driven lol. Secondly, i even had a person here, who is a KC fan, nothing for the Phins, or really against them, and he said for a team that burned ouff 90% of their talented players, we really play pretty good football. So to me, that says we certainly have soe MVP’s because we are playing past our expectation level. Besides even on an awful team there is a MVP, it just might be a STer. That said if we are considering things past players, then Flores has to be our MVP. Player wise, i think it has to be Fitz.
If enough people wanted to do a draft party, I would make it a weekend thing here and put up everyone who wanted to come. I think it would be a lot of fun, as long as Grier and Co. hold up their end of the bargain!
i’M IN!
GO HEAT!
Free Agency will be interesting, what if we get Cam Newton? a lot to consider before pin pointing the draft.
Cam is done.
It’s not the old days on knees, but man am hoping X comes into camp strong.
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“Miami Dolphins cornerback Xavien Howard has had surgery on his left knee that raises anew questions about his long-term health. The fourth-year pro has had at least two other knee operations and at least one on each knee.”
Dolphins 2019 rushing leaders
Fitzpatrick — 219 yards
Walton — 201
Drake — 174
Ballage — 135
Laird — 130
so sad…..
Laird will pass Fitz I think by season’s end. Most likely by a whisker though . . .
ahhhh…. good one……whisker….I get it……
Mike E
What are you going to do when 20 of us show up at your house?
22 I’m bringing the dogs! 😉
Get a bigger boat!
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 3: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (A+)
Round 1 Pick 22: Grant Delpit, FS/SS, LSU (A)
Round 1 Pick 23: DAndre Swift, RB, Georgia (A-)
Round 2 Pick 3: Tyler Biadasz, C, Wisconsin (A)
Round 2 Pick 30: Calvin Throckmorton, OT, Oregon (A)
Round 3 Pick 3: Solomon Kindley, OG, Georgia (A)
Round 4 Pick 19: Saahdiq Charles, OT, LSU (A+)
Round 5 Pick 21: Ty Tyler, DE/OLB, Marshall (A+)
Round 6 Pick 3: Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 21: Bradlee Anae, DE/OLB, Utah (A+)
Round 7 Pick 26: Lamical Perine, RB, Florida (A+)
I’m ok, I promise. To be honest, I’m working on it. Lol.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thephinsider.com/platform/amp/2019/12/19/21029761/draft-tales-diving-into-the-money-pit-of-the-miami-dolphins-draft-picks
Leadership…..makes a difference.
https://amp.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article238534033.html
The name is vaguely familiar. Lol…oh my.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article238528413.html
Just saw our current draft order is 3, behind Bengals and Giants.
Burrow to Bengals, Young to Giants. I’m sad.
Who’s best not named Tua? We have so many holes.
Think we can do just fine at #3, and have to lose to the Bengals to be there. But with all those holes, we’ll be able to find someone.
Said a different way, but same thing about Rosen….
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001089606/article/brian-flores-defends-playing-fitzpatrick-over-rosen%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%253Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%253Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%253Daround-the-league%253Bteam%253Dmia%253Bconf%253Dafc%253Bdvsn%253Dace%253Bplyr%253Dryan_fitzpatrick%253Bplyr%253Djoshua_rosen&p.ct=Around%2bthe%2bNFL&p.adsm=true&p.tcm=%2523fff&p.bgc1m=%25230964bf&p.bgc2m=%2523053a74&sr=amp
I think Flores is spot on. Players who are going all out don’t want to see them experimenting with a guy right now. They’re out there killing themselves, they want a chance to win. Honestly, this goes against the way I have felt in the past, selfishly I want to see the player and see what he’s got but I can totally understand the mindset of putting the best guy out there. Fitz, and the other players deserve that.
ER – Oh, and I’ll have order more food too!
Everybody bring a dish! Lol
Hell with the dish bring more beer 🍺
Did Mike E say draft party?
He provides Captain Morgan and Diet Dew, Ill bring the mug and I am in!!!
The mug does need a mug of its own though
Room of its own, not mug.. doh!
Bookman – The music “Roll out the Barrel” plays whenever you bring in that
barrelmugThat shit is right in my wheel house. Polkas rule!!
Right up there with Grease soundtrack
Lol
This headline is why no one should listen to spotters “reporters” and their rankings.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001089626/article/qb-index-week-16-drew-brees-in-top-4-tom-brady-slips-again
I bet Brees wishes that first pass didn’t hit the ground! A perfect completion percentage in a game would be a cool stat to have.
I was just scanning some stats because I was having a discussion about quarterbacks who “push the ball down field” with a coworker and I was just shocked to see Tannehill sitting at the top of the list of QB’s with 9.5 yards per pass attempt. Over .7 yards per more than the next QB.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/list/ranking-every-nfl-quarterback-drafted-first-round-since-2000/16obdsowna7kk1gnhl9iqrp2pg/53
Not saying yay or nay on this reporter’s ranking of the QB’s but this sure is a story of caution when expecting to find a “savior” in the 1st round.
I find it interesting that many of the better QB’s come from late in the round not the top 10.
Watson #12
Jackson #32
Mahomes #10 (I know that’t top 10)
Rogers #24
39 of the 53 I would list in the “hell no, I don’t want ’em column”
I think Tannehills success has a lot to do with Derrick Henry, he throws a tight spiral but has no clue about trajectory, he has to be pin point accurate due to his forceful trajectory whereas good qbs can throw the ball high and let the rec adjust and run under it. he lacks touch. JMO
Rock – Tannehill is doing things he was never able to do here. I was flipping channels last week as Tennessee was backed up on their own goal line and Tannehill throws this beautiful deep pass about 40 yards right in stride to the receiver. If it was with us it would have been either underthrown or overthrown.
I think hate blinders has a lot to do with that, his detractors have always exaggerated in faults (cant throw the deep ball, and then the following year he lead the league in deep ball accuracy) but I didn’t post about him to start another freaking debate about him. He is gone. I just, as I said, was shocked because I have not watched any of his games and had hear snipes from others poo pooing his play and alluding to his completion percentage (second highest in the league after Brees) being because of dump offs and screens, or being a product of the Running back…
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Well, I wasn’t necessarily a detractor, but I think I was pretty honest about his strengths and weaknesses. No need for a debate.
Tannehill has a pretty good year for us in Gase’s first year with us when Ajayi was running for 100 yards a game
I think that’s pretty analogous to what the titans are doing with Henry
https://sportsnaut.com/2019/12/report-adam-gase-has-lost-the-respect-of-jets-locker-room/
Anyone heard this tune before?
We really should be thankful that Gase pushed Ross to fire him at the end of last season. We could potentially be in the same situation with a torn down team, AND still be looking at Gase as our HC. shudder
Giants are starting Jones this weekend, so Redskins will win that game. #3 or #4 looking likely.
Only if we win and so do the Lions. But all other than maybe the SOS tie-breaker with the Skins should be clear after next weekend.
Not sure what you mean, Stang.
If we lose and the Giants lose, we’re sitting at #3.
If we win likely #4 unless Lions also win. (I say likely because Redskins SOS could potentially push us to #5)
Just got confused cause us winning or losing not in there. But yeah if the Redskins win will be #3 or #4. Even if #5 still possible.
Gotcha! I thought maybe I was missing something. 🙂
The Flying Pig says:
December 20, 2019 at 1:00 pm
Tannehill has a pretty good year for us in Gase’s first year with us when Ajayi was running for 100 yards a game
I think that’s pretty analogous to what the titans are doing with Henry
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Ajayi only ran for 100 yards or more 4 times in 2016….let false legend grows. The other games where he didn’t run for 200 yards he ran for a total of: 14yds, 28yds, 33yds,111yds, 49yds, 77yds, 79yds, 45yds, 61yds, 48yds, 51yds, 59yds.
in 12 games he ran for 54 yards per game average and 3.7 yards per carry. He ONLY had three good games for Miami.
Ajayi has 10 carries for 30 yards this season. Whatever he did before seems he didn’t work into our window.
He’s only 26. Wonder if that knee that was a concern is catching up with him.
He had 8 TDS and just under 1300 yards on nearly 5 yards a carry
he had a great year for us in 2016 if you want to parse it down to 3 games BX he had 3 exceptional games, go for it
But let’s not pretend that those 3 games didn’t benefit the offense, the other players on offense or the way teams prepared for us that year
Rock – Ajayi presented the threat of a run game. That was enough. No doubt he did the majority of damage in 4 or 5 games, but that forced to defenses to respect the run game. He (Tannehill) flourished with that.