Cornerbacks – Current depth chart and needs

The scrappers. That’s pretty much what we had left at the end of the season and much to their credit, they held their own pretty well. Guys like Nik Needham, Ken Webster, Ryan Lewis and a cast off like Jomal Wiltz. Xavien Howard was already on IR as was Bobby McCain, yet the secondary wasn’t a glaring weakness. Xavien Howard’s availability is still up in the air despite the charges being dropped. His physical health is also in question with his twice injured knee. I’m not even going to construct a depth chart because so much is up in the air. I suppose I could pencil in Xavien Howard at LCB if he’s healthy and there are no ramifications of the domestic battery situation December 30th 2019. I’m expecting us to be active in both FA and the draft shoring up this secondary. You can never have too many good cornerbacks,

In free agency, the first guy that jumps out at me is former Bills and eagles CB Ronald Darby. He just turned 26, and while not an INT machine, he’s a solid cover corner and a scrapper as well. Trae Waynes formerly of the Minnesota Vikings will just be turning 28 and while he’s not a guy who snares a lot of INT’s, he’s also a pretty good cover corner. Artie Burns former Pittsburgh Steeler will yet to be 25 and while still a little raw with his skills, he’s been a starter and may still have potential. Eli Apple and Vernon Hargreaves were top prospects that fizzled out in their 1st stints in the NFL but might me worth a shot. Bashaud Breeland who has been on 3 teams is only 28 and has been a successful starter.

In the draft there are a few top shelf CB’s available and with 3 first RD picks and 2 second RD picks we will have a shot at a few of them. Jeff Okudah from Ohio St. seems to be the unanimous top prospect. It really varies after Okudah with C.J. Henderson, Treyvon Diggs and Kristian Fulton jumbled in many different orders. This may seem strange but what we did last year with Nik Needham, Ryan Lewis, Ken Webster etc. etc., I’m thinking we may not choose to use one of our high picks on a CB. If we do, it’s probably for a couple of reasons, one being they feel Howard can’t be relied upon. I think we may let the best CB’s fall where they may while we shore up the O-line and pass rush and possibly RB and then look in the 2nd and 3rd at other positions. We’ll see! The combine begins later this week so the fun begins as speculation runs rampant! Enjoy!

GO DOLPHINS!!

#staythecourse

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  1. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    So in the last 2 days we’ve heard:
    Miami wants Tua
    Miami wants Herbert
    Miami wants Love
    Miami wants Burrow

    This leads me to believe Miami drafts Hurts😂

  2. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    Tristan Wirfs is an Effin Beast.

  3. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    BBMIke – Wow on Bechtin. That’s fast for a gargantuan dude like he is

  4. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    On Bechtin, he looks great except for that weight. He’s gained about 12 pounds since the games ended a few months ago. He will constantly have to be monitored for weight in an NFL that doesn’t train people nearly as much as it used to. I see that wearing him down eventually but he may be a beast by Year 2-3.

    I much prefer Wirfs and that athleticism but I have no clue Grier’s favorite type of OT (or Flores).

    • rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

      Yea, I’m loving Wirfs too. He’s so smooth, quick, and athletic. I would be very happy with using our second 1st round pick on him. I would even move up a few spots to get him. …Andrew Thomas too.

  5. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    BOOM!

  6. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I’ve seen every game Wirfs has played. He struggles with speed and really doesn’t play as athletically as he looked at the combine. I will say, he actually looks smaller to me, which is possible. He’s been told he’s possibly being looked at as a guard because of his relative lack of quickness. He knows showing some quickness will benefit his draft stock…and getting lighter would help. I think it points out why you really don’t put a lot of stock into how any of these guys look dressed in shorts doing drills.
    ***
    All that said, I love Wirfs. He definitely needs to work on his pass pro. He will struggle with the athletes in the NFL….at least at first. I’d have no problem drafting him. I’d throw him in at RT in practice and see how he does. If he does struggle, you move him inside and let him dominate in the run game….learn the game a bit more because he’s still a young kid…and transition him back to RT if he develops.There’s a reason the kid was the first Hawkeye to ever start as a true freshman on the OL. He has the P word to be great.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      I only watched a few and knew he had a few issues with speed rushers based off earlier comments you’ve made. I think they all have warts, even Thomas, but I think Wirfs is probably the third best OT in this draft and a good target at 18.

  7. rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

    It will be 30 years this coming draft when we took Webb and Sims. Maybe we repeat it by finding our future LT and LG in the same draft again. …Andrew Thomas and Tristan Wirfs anyone. Lol

  8. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I should have said Wirfs looked more fit rather than smaller. When you drop bad weight and put on muscle you can actually gain weight. Maybe he’s been working out for the combine. Every kid wants to be seen as a tackle. They usually make a lot more money.,..although that’s beginning to change too.

  9. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  10. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    New Age,
    The positive for me is that he has improved over the past few years. His coaches love him. He’s a team leader type of guy who’s smart and very coachable. He’d be a good addition to the lock room. Even if he doesn’t live up to his complete potential, he’ll probably still be a very solid pro.

  11. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  12. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    A QB just signed for $17 million per year. Thing is team was CBS and QB Tony Romo. How many guys getting pummeled by 300 pound D-Lineman next year will make more?

  13. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    I think thus far Jonathan Taylor has been the most impressive back and it’s not close. He’s been my #1 back for Miami for a long time.

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  21. im not surprised Miami was a bit standoffish to TUA, I never believed they wanted Him after the injury, Justin Herbert is the guy IMO

  22. the media has played up the Tua thing so long, they didnt get inside the Fins Management circle and find out what was really going on, laziness and or incompetence IMO

    the media already reported that Ross wasnt interested in Tua, and yet they kept saying TUa is the guy, blah blah blah

    wtf, they dont even read their own articles about what Ross wanted

  23. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    It seems to be a deep draft at a lot of positions which is good for us with so much draft capital.

  24. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    If Jonathan Taylor is that fast, I am ok with moving him up to equal of De’Andre Swift in my RB group with Dobbins and Edwards Hilaire in the second but still acceptable group.

    I was also happy to see that Cam Akers ran well. I think he got shafted by the coaching problems at FSU while he was there. I would love to get Akers on the sneak in the 3rd, but he will probably now go in the 2nd.

    He was a top 10 national prep rating as a dual threat QB in HS. He THREW for 8000+ yds and 78 TDs and ran for another 5000 and another 71 scores.

    Why can’t we use him as a wildcat trigger or like they do that insane guy in New Orleans.
    Or like Crash Jensen 4.5

  25. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    There’s a nice big bunch of really good OL this year. We should make sure we get a Tackle early.

  26. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    If Simmons is there for us, it would be hard to ignore him for anyone else.
    He’s like a huge safety.
    He can spy on dual threat QBs and cover and snuff out TEs and cut off wheel routes.
    Plus he seems like a really good kid.

  27. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    A little disappointed with Thomas’ bench press (21) but the guy does have a couple of telephone poles for arms (36 1/4″).

  28. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Akers ran 4.47, 5th best RB time @5.10. 217 with 20 reps and big hops. He’s got serious talent, too.

  29. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Naples, I was a little down on Jonathan Taylor as RB1 or 2. Was looking at him as RB3 due to him not being used in passing game much and his mileage.

    I have changed that opinion a bit after watching his workout yesterday. Not just his 40 time but the drills and pass catching. He is a really good all round back and at his size is a huge plus. I put him at RB2 ahead of butter finger Dobbins almost a toss up with swift for RB1. If we could nab him in top of 2nd round would be a steal!

    Thank goodness this draft is deep at several positions.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      i didnt care for Taylor, he looked lethargic in his drills, very upright not a quick titch guy. ballage looks better than him.

      swift is the real deal

  30. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I remember one of the talking heads say this was a weaker draft a few months ago but it looks loaded with the talent we need this year. Tons of very good OTs, QBs galore, and some really good DEs. We have enough picks to get a solid top 5 guy in each of those spots too. I’d love to get lucky enough to pick up Cushenberry in the 2nd as well.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      He OTs are really strong
      QBs too

      I don’t think I agree about DE though

      Good RBs though
      A ton of RBs that are worthy of a 2nd round pick

  31. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Imagine Mekhi Becton chasing after you . . . . TERRIFYING!

    Especially knowing he’s gonna catch you! lol

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      He’s a one year wonder though, right? I’m skeptical of his ambition and perseverance. His mom’s a caterer? He might eat himself out of the league, a la Big Vern Carey.

      Speaking of big boys, anybody following Vern’s son as a basketball player?

  32. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Piggy I really like Epenesa at DE for us. No? Also Chaisson looks like a good prospect.

    I’d love a draft that included one of them or Terrell Lewis @ Edge, either Swift or Taylor or Cam Akers @ RB, and one of my Fave 4 tackles:Wills, Thomas, Jones, or Jackson.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Honestly I think edge is one of the hardest positions to evaluate

      I wouldn’t complain about any of those players though

      I think if we walked away with Espenesa/Kinlaw/Brown type and some one like Chaisson, we might be a really good defense next season

      But I would really prefer to prioritize QB, OL, and RB

      Unfortunately even with a treasure trove of picks…it never feels like enough

  33. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    PS: Antoine Winfield Jr is too short for my taste at Safety in the modern NFL with all of these tall WRs. At safety I want Simmons or Delpit or Jeremy Chinn or Jordan Fuller from Ohio State.

  34. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Naples – I think Zack Baun (Wisconsin) is going to be one of the pass rushers we draft

  35. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Naples – Is it important for an OL to have a great 4 year career? I mean the guy has the size and the athleticism and he can play. The thing that scares me the most about Bectin is he may have a propensity like you mentioned to balloon up to a weight where he can’t be effective.

  36. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  37. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    There are a lot of prospects I like in this draft. The issue is what do we have to do if QB is our target with our first pick? Do we have to move up or can we stay where we are?

  38. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I do think that the amount of talent at some premium positions will push good RBs into the 2nd round. Let’s say we don’t make any trades and come away with QB, OT, (2) front 7 defenders and a RB with our first 5 picks. That really adds a good amount of talent at multiple positions.

  39. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    So who is going to lose their minds if Miami doesn’t take a QB, just rolls with Fitz and Rosen for another year? Think of the trade back possibilities.

  40. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    well Epenesa disappointed … looked slow and kludgy … so a first day of Isaiah Simmons, De’Andre Swift, and OT Jackson out of USC looks really good to me.

    That is if we sign Brady in FA of course.

  41. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Tua was pissed of his treatment from the Miami brass when they met, not sure if that’s a smoke screen. you don’t want to show your cards to anyone not even the player.

    That said maybe they won’t go qb at #5, i prefer they trade back get a decent pick this year still in the 1st rnd, maybe a 2 this year as well and a 1st next year.

    i would assume we will trade back with one of our 1st rnders

    keep those early picks coming in.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      The person reporting this information is Omar Kelly

      It’s flat out not reliable

      We discussed it a little yesterday if you scroll up

  42. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Mike E. says:
    February 29, 2020 at 1:14 pm
    Imagine Mekhi Becton chasing after you . . . . TERRIFYING!

    Especially knowing he’s gonna catch you! lol
    ______________________________________________

    he definitely moved up in the draft due to his 40 time, i’d take Wirfs over him though, Wirfs is in shape, becton isn’t, 40 times don’t matter much for OL, they don’t go out for passes.

  43. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    TDN, biggest combine winners for QB were Tua (cause his medicals checked out), Love andHurts.

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/jordan-love-tua-tagovailoa-jalen-hurts-nfl-combine-quarterback-2020

  44. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Two weeks from tomorrow teams can start talking to agents of free agents. Signing can start the 18th. Then pro days start.

  45. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I wonder how much trade talk has gone on this week in Indy?

  46. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    A post combine draft. It went OK. Went huge on RB.

    5 Isaiah Simmons, LB Clemson
    18 Andrew Thomas, OT Georgia
    26 Jonathan Taylor, RB Wisconsin
    39 Jordan Love, QB Utah State
    56 Jaylon Johnson, CB Utah
    70 Saahdiq Charles, OT LSU
    135 Devin Duvernay, WR Texas
    144 Anfernee Jennings, EDGE Alabama
    155 J.R. Reed, S Georgia
    165 A.J. Dillon, RB Boston College
    177 Khalil Davis, IDL Nebraska
    223 Lavert Hill, CB Michigan

    I could see us trade up from 135. Many good players come off the board between #70 and #135.

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      I’d trade as many of our later picks as it takes to go up from 135 into the 90s or low 100s.

      Those 3rd round numbers have a great chance of contibuting, while few from after 135 ever really make an impact.

  47. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Chiefs letting Cameron Erving hit FA. He’s not great, but he’d be an upgrade at either C or G.

  48. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I don’t think Becton is out of shape, he’s just that big. If he was out of shape he would not have run a 5.11. He actually dropped 7 lbs. from his previous weight of 364 when he reported at the combine to 357 when he ran the 40.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I don’t think anyone was saying he’s out of shape, but 357 could probably become 375 if he’s not working hard. He should probably be about 330-340

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        ORob did say he was out of shape. I heard Kevin Long say he played at 350 and since he retired he’s now 280. He’s not naturally as big as Becton.

        Does Becton have a reputation of not working hard? I haven’t heard that.

  49. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mekhi Becton doesn’t look out of shape to me. He’s just monster huge.

  50. D's avatar D says:

    My problem with Beckton is his feet don’t like quick. I don’t think he icktons in the same conversation as Thomas or Jones, and maybe Wills. If we go QB with 5, then we won’t get Thomas, or probably Wills, i wouldn’t use 18 on Beckton unless a lot of others are off the board already because between Jackson, Beckton, Jones, Prince Tega, Words, etc I just don’t see a reason to reach on a y of these guys and I don’t really see any one of them as have to have at 18.

  51. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Egypt now has a hundred million people.

    And Nigeria has 200,000,000, with 90 million under age 18.

  52. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    And Coach Rivera supposedly told Tua that the Redskins want to draft him at #2.

  53. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    IT’S MY SAD DUTY to report that two of my “boyz” who went with me to Dolphin games when this franchise was winning playoff games and Super Bowls are no longer with us. I know Youing Stanger got to meet, know, and respect BOTH of them for quite a few seasons.

    About 2 years ago Pasquale Fragnito’s health started to deteriorate. His son, James, had the task of caring for him. James who was about 6’5″ and over 300 pounds found that caring for a loved one was more than he bargained for. A lot more. During the holiday season, James had a coronary, lingered for a few days, then passed away. By February, Pasquale also had taken a turn for the worse. About 10 days ago, the physicians in attendance advised the family it was time to turn off the machines. Just before his 93rd birthday, Pasquale also passed away. Besides being a true friend and a die hard Dolphins fan, Pasquale also was a war hero. He lied about his age and joined the army in either 1944 or 1945. He received 6 bullet wounds while parachute landing in France. He told me “All they hit was flab! –I had no life threatening wounds” he reported. But the fact remains he did every thing he could when he had a chance to serve his country.

    BOTH of the Fragnito’s were hoping the upcoming season would be a good one for Miami. BOTH were hoping to see our favorite team return to the Playoffs and actually WIN A PLAYOFF GAME in 2020.

    NOW, they won’t get that chance. And it saddens me tremendously. Oh how we dreamed of going to Raymond James Stadium to see our long shot Dolphins in the Super Bowl THIS SEASON!

  54. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Israel population: 8 million
    1 out of 5 Isrealis are Muslim.

    Iran has 80 million people.
    15000 Jews
    Iran’s Jewish community is the largest in the Mideast outside Israel – and feels safe and respected.
    While they are free to worship, they face some limitations.

  55. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    There are 13 synagogues in the capital of Iran.

    Twenty years ago, Siamak Morsadegh’s wife wanted the couple to move to America. She left. He stayed, choosing Iran’s more conservative culture.

    Reza Sayah:

    Today, Morsadegh is an elected member of Iran’s Parliament, proof, he says, that Jews here are a respected minority with religious rights. So you gave up your wife to stay in Iran?

    Siamak Morsadegh:

    Yes. Yes, it’s very important for me. I think that I cannot live without Iranian culture. I can’t tolerate my wife to dress in bikini in seaside, because I grew up in Iranian culture.

  56. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    THANKS FOR THE KIND WORDS,NAPLES. Yes, I spent many of the greatest days of my life with the Fragnito’s in the historic Orange Bowl. To say we had fun would be a tremendous under statement!

  57. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    So sorry for the loss of your friend, OD.

  58. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Sorry to hear about Pasquale OD

    I met him once at a game (you introduced us)
    Seemed like a great guy

  59. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Terrible news OD!
    I’ll raise a Colorado Cool-aid in the air for them!

  60. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    THANK YOU ALL for the nice words. Both of the Fragnito boys were outstanding individuals. As the franchise sank in the standings I realized that the #1 reason I kept attending these games was the comraderie (sp) I shared with my football family. It was a special time in a special place that I will never forget!

    Good night to all of you.

  61. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Tim,

    Of all the people here, I would have thought you were the last to fall for fake news. Here’s the real pic of Bectin running.

    https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fthumbs.gfycat.com%2FFlamboyantUnripeDiplodocus-size_restricted.gif&f=1&nofb=1

  62. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Gonna throw this weird one out there. We trade for Jimmy Garoppolo who Flores was around with NE and Belichick – who loved him. I think we want to build the same type of team. Good in all phases and set up plays for playmakers.

    So now that sets up Tom Brady to play for the 49ers, his hometown, and childhood idol in Joe Montana as a kid.

    In this scenario just take it for what it is, that it’s happening. What would be the value you give up for a $100M QB so the 49ers can get Brady? I’d say we’ll give you a 3rd and take on the contract. Jimmy G is a good QB. He’s better than Fitz and Rosen. Most of the games he plays in he wins.

  63. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Watch us draft DT Derrick Brown to add to Godchaux and Wilkins where not only would they play together moving around, they would create mayhem every snap. That’s a sick three interior DL rotation.

    Baker, McMillan and Eguavoen are the box LBs. Biegel, Van Ginkel, Taco etc. were not dominant as edge rushers. They play hard and can provide depth and STs.

    Sign a big edge rusher in FA. That’s how the game is played.

  64. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Washington either wants Tua at No. 2, or wants Miami to think so

    So much smoke out there. Like it says in the article, isn’t it interesting that the information was leaked to a South Florida newspaper

    I hope Grier and our front office isn’t this stupid.

  65. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    https://twitter.com/YannickNgakoue/status/1234456012591161345?s=20

  66. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    OD – My condolences on the loss of Pasquale.

  67. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I don’t understand. If Washington says they want Tua at #2 then why would they trade? It makes no sense. If they think he’s the guy, they take him. It’s all nonsense.

  68. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Lots of talk this morning about where Tom Brady is going, if Andy Dalton would replace him in NE. Also talk of Dak Prescott and why they might franchise tag him and let McCarthy see if he deserves a long term contract. It is interesting to see where the dominoes fall.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      It’s a fun time to listen to NFL radio, so much going on right now between the draft and free agency. Sounds like Yannick Ngakoue is OUT for sure in Jax, says he wants to stay in FLA. Welcome to MIA young man!

  69. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Mike, I seen and heard a lot of theories some of them really unlikely. The Braided Coconut’s was the best though. NE going after Tanny and Tenn signing Brady. I had a good belly laugh at that one because he said it like he says so much BS as if it WILL happen.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Charlie Weis was on this morning talking about Brady to Da Raiders and Dalton to NE. I do think it’s very possible we get Ngakoue. If we don’t, and maybe even if we do, I still see Zack Baun being a Dolphin. I have no concrete reason, just seems like a the type of player we would want.

  70. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Some of you guys talking about players being out of shape up the board. Some of these guys need to eat like it’s their full time job just to maintain their weight. Especially some of the 300lb+ guys. You see them all the time after they retire dropping from 300+ to mid to high 200’s.

  71. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Tim, if Garoppolo is so good, why would the 49ers want to give him up? For a one or two year rental of a 42 yo Tom Brady? they supposedly have their franchise guy now…..

  72. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 5: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama (A)
    Round 1 Pick 18: Grant Delpit, FS/SS, LSU (A)
    Round 1 Pick 26: Josh Jones, OT, Houston (B)
    Round 2 Pick 7: Tyler Biadasz, C/OG, Wisconsin (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 24: Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 6: Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 39 (COMP): Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 7: Carter Coughlin, DE/OLB, Minnesota (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 16: Mitchell Wilcox, TE, South Florida (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 27: Ty Tyler, DE/OLB, Marshall (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 6: Damien Lewis, OG, LSU (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 18: Rodney Smith, RB, Minnesota (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 32: Benito Jones, DT, Mississippi (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 36 (COMP): Parnell Motley, CB, Oklahoma (A+)

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      That’s a killer perfect draft Wyo. I would love that.
      Your 1st 7 through Mims are about as perfect as could be hoped for.
      I’m high on Damien Lewis as a late steal.
      I htink Mitch Wilcox can block Edge rushers. (Few TEs can do that one on one.)

  73. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  74. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  75. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I traded back with Gruden for #12 & #19 thinking they would take Tua who was still on the board. They took Herbert instead and Tua fell Jax at #9.

    I would kill for this draft.

    R1P12 OT ANDREW THOMAS GEORGIA
    R1P18 EDGE YETUR GROSS-MATOS PENN STATE
    R1P19 CB JEFFREY OKUDAH OHIO STATE
    R1P26 QB JORDAN LOVE UTAH STATE
    R2P7 RB D’ANDRE SWIFT GEORGIA
    R2P24 C TYLER BIADASZ WISCONSIN
    R3P6 DL JORDAN ELLIOTT MISSOURI
    R4P39 S KVON WALLACE CLEMSON
    R5P16 G STEVEN GONZALEZ PENN STATE
    R5P27 OT CALVIN THROCKMORTON OREGON
    R6P6 CB JAMES PIERRE FLORIDA ATLANTIC
    R6P18 K CONNOR LIMPERT ARKANSAS
    R6P23 CB LEVONTA TAYLOR FLORIDA STATE
    R7P32 S JULIAN BLACKMON UTAH
    R7P37 FB KIEL POLLARD SOUTH CAROLINA

  76. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  77. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    HELL NO The Dolphins should not trade for Yannick Ngakoue. Especially if them wanting a 1st plus more after franchise tagging him.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I’d trade either our 2nd 1st RD or 3rd 1st RD pick for Ngakoue. It’s not that big of a deal. Unless you think you can get production like his from the draft, and we might. Still keep thinking Zack Baun is gonna be a guy for us.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        No way – save those picks

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        If this guy is your best pass rusher by far, unless you think you can get someone better in the draft, why save it? I know there are 2 sides to everything and I love my picks, but if he can be a key player on your defense it’s worth it.

      • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

        Ngakoue is a young and explosive pass rusher who’s not a good run defender and seems to like to air his grievances on Twitter. I don’t know if that’s what Flores is looking for…..at all. Reminds me a little of Mike Wallace.

        I think they will draft a guy which could end up being Baun, Gross-Matos, Espensa, Jennings to name a few who can fit and be molded.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        The problem isn’t the pick you have to give up to get him, it’s his salary, and maybe his play vs his ability.

  78. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Randy – Your thoughts on Zack Baun?

  79. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve – I don’t see us breaking the bank for any player at this time so you’re probably right. I can’t imagine us paying $20M for a pass rusher, especially not the best.

  80. D's avatar D says:

    wyoming85 says:
    March 2, 2020 at 9:35 am

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 5: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama (A)
    Round 1 Pick 18: Grant Delpit, FS/SS, LSU (A)
    Round 1 Pick 26: Josh Jones, OT, Houston (B)
    Round 2 Pick 7: Tyler Biadasz, C/OG, Wisconsin (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 24: Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 6: Damon Arnette, CB, Ohio State (A-)
    Round 4 Pick 39 (COMP): Denzel Mims, WR, Baylor (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 7: Carter Coughlin, DE/OLB, Minnesota (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 16: Mitchell Wilcox, TE, South Florida (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 27: Ty Tyler, DE/OLB, Marshall (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 6: Damien Lewis, OG, LSU (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 18: Rodney Smith, RB, Minnesota (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 32: Benito Jones, DT, Mississippi (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 36 (COMP): Parnell Motley, CB, Oklahoma (A+)
    Reply
    ———————————————————–
    Thats a really good draft there.

  81. D's avatar D says:

    I was about to type that Baun reminded me of Clay Matthews, but i went to check what Zerlien said before i put it down because M13 use to always say that i copied him, so credit to Zerlein, i agree with him Clay Matthews is almost spot on comparable and if thats true, then thats a helluva guy to get. I agree, he seems like a prototype to me, with some ugliness in him too. I wouldnt be at all upset if the Phins brought him in, though i also think LB is one of the stronger areas we have right now.

  82. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • D's avatar D says:

      Yeah i didnt think Scherff was going anywhere, the Bud Dupree tag seems a little crazy, but he’s a good player and you should always try to keep them if you can afford to.

  83. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    Does Miami consider making a trade for Trae Turner and sign Thuney in FA to solidify the OG spot? Make sure they still draft a good OG to eventually replace Turner.

  84. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I’m just really leery of giving these guys their “Big Payday.”
    So many of them quit producing or just lay back for a couple years and rest on their laurels.

    Give me the young and hungry draftees looking to make their mark.

    Now if you can find a guy with latent talent who just needs the right situation to blossom,
    then that’s the guys you want in FA.
    IMHO

  85. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I agree Naples, but we do have a lot to spend, and I suspect most of it will be on midpack guys, but if there were a special talent that could elevate our team, unless the price is outrageous, we could be in on that.

  86. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Ahhh Jeez OD — great a guy as Pasquale was (what a whit)…. there is a time when you start expecting. But James too is just sad as sad comes. He was like my age and that of a whole bunch of us folks. Man ran a great tailgate and as good as they come.

  87. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    5: R1P5 QB JUSTIN HERBERT OREGON
    18: R1P18 CB JEFF OKUDAH OHIO ST.
    26: R1P26 OT JEDRICK WILLS JR. ALABAMA
    39: R2P7 RB D’ANDRE SWIFT GEORGIA
    56: R2P24 C CESAR RUIZ MICHIGAN
    70: R3P6 S TERRELL BURGESS UTAH
    142: R4P39 EDGE TREVON HILL MIAMI (FLA.)
    162: R5P16 S JORDAN FULLER OHIO ST.
    173: R5P27 G YASIR DURANT MISSOURI
    185: R6P6 WR DARRELL STEWART JR. MICHIGAN ST.
    197: R6P18 EDGE ALEX HIGHSMITH CHARLOTTE
    202: R6P23 P MICHAEL TURK ARIZONA ST.
    246: R7P32 K RODRIGO BLANKENSHIP GEORGIA
    251: R7P37 QB NATE STANLEY IOWA

    LOL I skipped over Tua and took Herbert which I know will make some of your heads explode, but it caused the next 5 picks to be traded. Crazy mock draft.

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      I think Fuller could be the next Reshad Jones,
      meaning a really good, steady, near pro bowl safety.
      Let’s just be sure to build the whole team
      so we don’t depend on a guy like that to be our best player
      like we did with Reshad too often.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Pick #202 was so that Stanger could pull out one of his old jerseys.

  88. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I always wondered why ever team holds up Matt Turk’s jersey during the draft

  89. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MikeE,
    Baun? Not a huge fan. I’m not sure where he’d play in the NFL. Edge rusher? WLB? He’s a good athlete….a little too twitchy for my taste, as he over plays some reads and runs past plays. His production, as far as sacks, was one year. And, if you look at the game stats, he didn’t do a whole lot against quality opponents. 2.5 sacks in 2018. 12.5 in 2019 but 3 vs. Kent. 2 vs Nebraska. 1 against CMU and 1 against USF. Only about 5 sacks against quality opponents. I don’t think he’ll be a prolific pass rusher.
    ***
    I’ve seen him play a few times as I watch a lot of Big 10 football, but I can’t say I’ve seen enough to give an in-depth analysis. I know he hasn’t impressed me. I don’t see Clay Mathews. The only thing that reminds me of him is how they both like to rock in their presnap set….not a good thing. Baun is a very, very raw rusher technique wise. He’s got a really quick inside move that beats the occasional tackle but that’s about it. Without really doing a deep dive. I probably wouldn’t draft him. You can still hope for him though! 🙂

  90. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I just saw a report that JAX will not franchise Yannick and he said goodbye to the fans and was looking forward to playing somewhere else.

  91. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    My highest firstpick score ever! Man did they let some players slip.

    Your score is: 40054 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 5: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (A+)
    Round 1 Pick 18: Derrick Brown, DT, Auburn (A)
    Round 1 Pick 26: Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 7: Zack Baun, OLB, Wisconsin (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 24: Jonathan Taylor, RB, Wisconsin (A+)
    Round 3 Pick 6: Cameron Dantzler, CB, Mississippi State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 39 (COMP): Devin Duvernay, WR, Texas (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 7: Clyde Edwards-Helaire, RB, LSU (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 16: Jordan Fuller, FS/SS, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 27: Tremayne Anchrum, OG, Clemson (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 6: Damien Lewis, OG, LSU (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 18: Khalil Davis, DT, Nebraska (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 32: Luke Farrell, TE, Ohio State (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 36 (COMP): Tipa Galeai, DE/OLB, Utah State (A+)

    To bad this will never happen. LOL

  92. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Tim,
    I just try to give my honest opinion of a kid if someone asks. I usually don’t like to say anything about a guy if I’ve never even seen him play or only a few games. I don’t try to be negative, but it is a critique. I know some folks don’t really like it, so I don’t say much too often. Lol

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Randy, I was just BBJK. You make a lot of great points and can debate, BBJK with the best of them. No worries, man. 🙂

  93. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    There’s lots of ways we can go in the draft. But FA will set the table for what we may do. I’m excited to see who we target and then look at the roster after the fact. I don’t think any of us have experienced this kind of draft capital and cap space to work with.

    Go Phins!!!

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