Ryan Fitzpatrick
Josh Rosen
Jake Rudock
So there you have it. 15 year veteran Ryan Fitzpatrick who is clearly the #1 choice as the starter at the moment, followed by 2 year veteran Josh Rosen who has played in all of 20 games starting 16 and doing so with a record of 3-13. Of course that record must be taken in context as he was playing for an awful team in Arizona for a HC that was fired after just one season. Jake Rudock was signed to a 1YR deal for $600K and he rounds out the depth chart.
Fitzpatrick had an uneven season, sitting behind Josh Rosen until the Fest game where Rosen was pulled and Fitzpatrick took over the reins for the rest of the season as the starter. He finished really strong, developing a strong relationship with WR DeVante Parker, who really grew in leaps in bound last season. I don’t want to ruin the upcoming WR article but the duo of Fitzpatrick and Parker from game #10-#16 totaled 39 receptions for 733 yards for a crazy 18.7 YPC and 5 TD’s. That’s a season for some guys right there. Mike Gesicki also had a very nice season and Fitzpatrick had a lot to do with that as well.
What to do with Josh Rosen? The best answer is probably nothing right now as his value couldn’t really be diminished any more than it already has so we just have to hope he has better things to show us. He needs to show a lot of improvement in camp and in the preseason and let him continue to build on that. There shouldn’t be any pressure for him regarding the starting job because if Ryan Fitzpatrick is healthy, he’s the QB, there is no uncertainty there. Of course if Rosen played out of his mind he may force a different outcome but no one really expects that to happen.
There are so many different ways to view the draft and the QB’S that may be available to us. My preference is to stay where we are and let the players fall as they will. I don’t want to trade multiple picks to get Burrow and I’d rather not trade multiple picks to get Tua, although the value to potentially get to #3 with Detroit shouldn’t cost more than our #5 and and our #39 pick. I could tolerate that, but the more I consider Justin Herbert or Jordan Love or even Jacob Eason or Jalen Hurts later on, as long as we have a solid foundation after free agency and the draft, I’d feel fine with any of those guys knowing none of them have the pressure to start this season. We can develop them and see what we’ve got and still be able to draft a QB next season providing we don’t trade away any future draft capital.
I’m excited for the draft, even if no one is there live, that doesn’t matter to me. All I care about is WHO we draft, not whether they hug the commissioner. It’s possible due to COVID-19 that free agency will be postponed, because part of the process is meeting team’s staffs and also checking out the neighborhoods, schools etc. If travel is limited or shut down completely, all that stuff can’t happen. I suppose they could do video conferencing but it can’t be the same as meeting a guy in person and of course seeing the sites around town and feeling the lifestyle of sunny Florida. I’m open to taking a QB early and I’m even more open to taking one later after we got some top OL and defensive players and maybe a RB. Next up is WR’s followed by TE’s.
GO DOLPHINS!!
#staythecourse
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Along with gordon theres interest in van noy and logan ryan. Since we dumped kilgore i wonder if theres interest in the denver center as well
Imo van noy is nothing special. A product of the system the pats play
Gordon’s probably looking to get 8 mil per
Give washington a 3rd rnder for trent williams?
Happy Tamper Day!!!!!! Let the trade and free agent rumors start flying!
Should we get in a bidding war for Trufant. I say yes within reason. There are some good F/A CB’s out there.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/falcons-cutting-trufant-three-teams-that-need-him
I wanted Des Trufant in that draft that year. I’d be interested for a reasonable price
He is 29 though so I really wouldn’t go too high contract wise either in $$$ or years. I didn’t realize he was that old.
I’d really like to see the team come away with a competent OL out of this FA. I’d also like to see them take a shot at younger DE’s vs the big name players. A safety would be nice, but I think that’s a round 2 draft option instead.
On another note alive been wondering if Miami makes a run at a CB in free agency and shifts Needham to safety. He played pretty physical and seemed solid as a tackler.
If we get a competent and younger OL, it will be the first time in how long? Decades? Our last two playoff teams easy schedules and injury prone players that eventually broke down. Ricky had a solid OL but he was such a hard runner that I think they weren’t quite as good as I remember.
Naples,
To respond from earlier, you’re amazing. My immune system isn’t quite that tough lol. That will come in handy later on for you.
On to football, I’m really interested in who we are targeting. Kilgore just wasn’t good enough and that’s one thing I like about our new regime. They are willing to cut bait pretty quickly and that should mean not too many big contracts keeping bad investments here. Every FO makes them but the best ones don’t let it damage the team for too long. Looking at the Jags, I’m glad we don’t have that FO. They had one year of amazing false hope that must feel crushing right now.
The franchise tags definitely changes FA.
Changes things to having to do trades instead of FA pickups. I think a lot of those who were signed to tags are like what we did with Jarvis and most likely if bluffs get called, several will get the tag rescinded
I wouldn’t give the Patriots shit for Thuney. We’ll find another G, that’s it.
I really dont see the love for him. He isnt a great OG. Im not trading for him or giving him a 12 mil contract like was suggested on here before
He’s a good player but he’s not the only one. No reason to give up assets.
Good, not great, thats why i was saying im not giving up picks or a huge ass contract.
So 2 names linked to Miami so far is Byron Jones and Joe Haeg. Not that Miami has a deal, but rather interest.
Thuney is gonna make $14-15 mil on the tag. Last year he got $2.2. Hard to complain if you are Thuney.
Looks like we are targeting Byron Jones and are in competition to sign him.
Didn’t realize he has only two picks in 5 seasons.
Yeah i dont see the love for him either, personally.
So Austin Hooper to the Browns and will be the highest paid TE in the game.
Damn browns apparently blew a load to get Austin Hooper. To TE contract. big overpay there.
You keep just beating ,me lol. Before too long im going to owe you a six pack.
Tom BNrady to the Bucs
2 years 48 mil
The Browns still trying to buy a championship.
Nevermind that was fake news i guess
Byron jones would be a great fir for miami. He played a lot of cover 1 man with 1 safety over the top. Exactly what miami does.
With all the money we have we should come out with either tuhney or conklin. Maybe both.
Signed Erik Flowers
3 years 30 mil 20 guaranteed.
Sorry Ereck
People are going to lose it on Twitter 😂
Ugh!!! He was horrible with the Giants. Friends of mine were always saying get this guy out of here. Not a fan of this one.
He has played really good at OG though
He graded out really well all year. He was OG with Washington.
Oh he played guard for Washington? He was horrible at tackle.
yeah he has slow feet, bad for OT, not a liability for OG
Looks like we are going after Shaq Lawson as well
David Johnson to the Texans. Wonder which RB will be out in Houston.
well that’s Flowers and Dieter at OG!
Just 3 more starters to go? 😦
Im kinda happy we might be bringing in Lawson, he is finding his groove right now. Nice hyrbid passrusher.
Steelers cut Marc Barron, he is a poor man’s Simmons. Pretty much the same kind of player.
Steelers also cut Chickillo
9ers resigning Arik Armstead
Ereck Flowers? Hoping for the best on this one. He’s a beast, but he struggled terribly at T with the Jints. I know he played G last year and did OK, hope that continues.
I think it was a good hire.
Texans are trading \Hopkins to Arizone
Hopkins and a 4th to Cards, Johnson and a 2nd to Texans
Texans are building back some draft capitol.
now it looks like the Texans are getting a 2nd and a 4th
2021 4th
Did Flowers play RG for the Redskins?
LG
If Flowers works out That’ll be one heck of a turnaround for that young man.
Just don’t play him at tackle.
I woulda felt better about 8mil but i think it is what it is. Everybody overpays a little in FA.
The numbers are changing. $10M per isn’t really a lot anymore at any position. I’m not concerned about the contract if he plays well at guard.
Damn the Ravens got Campbell for almost nothing, other than eating a big contract.
Man the Texans fans are going ape shit over the Hopkins trade!
I wonder if the coaches let it play out at guard with Flowers, Deiter etc., or will Deiter move to center where he did play a bunch of games at Wisconsin?
I think it depends on the rest of FA and draft. With versatility he could play whatever spot he is needed or performs best.
I think he is in play to be a starter in one of 3 positions, about all you can say about the state of our OL lol.
True Deiter is versatile.
Bears closing in on a deal with Bridgewater apparently.
Apparently Skins offered what i would have for Flowers, 8per, we just beat their offer
Flowers also wanted to play in Miami his home town.
Know nothing compared to you guys on players….. but $10 mil per year fits with my plan. Looking for lots of dudes like that instead of the high-priced studs. Studs is what the draft is for.
They are saying the market for Byron Jones, starts at 17per year. Id be out.
Why would the Texans trade Hopkins? David Johnson was a shell of what he used to be.
The mysteries of life. LOL
its the picks and keeping roughly the same cap numbers. Contract wise its a wash on guaranteed money, well probably better on the side of the Texans by a little. But they also got a 2nd round pick out of the deal and a flip of this years 4th for next. BoB had issues with Hopkins, so that was also parts of it, and WR is becoming a draftable position, replacing talent pretty easily.
Lol i just saw some funny ass shit. They compared OG to a fist fight in a phone booth and OT as trying to chase down a really strong fast chicken.
LOL
Funniest part of that is, its not really far off from the truth lol.
Deiter started 16 games at Center at Wisconsin.
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/michael-deiter?id=32194445-4913-7530-3932-9da3d6c8f088
That’s what I think the plan might be with Kilgore gone.
I mean its probably a backup plan. I hear they are after Skura from Balt, which has a RFA tender but he was undrafted so we wouldn’t have to give up a pick.
Very possible because of Deiter’s versatility that we’ll let it work itself out in TC.
All I can say is I wanted Flowers in the draft and now we have him coming off a year where he found a comfortable position and improved. Not too shabby.
Least one O line position locked up. Guessing we walk into the draft with only one that needs to be filled and a maybe Jesse Davis in a second.
Flowers was not on my short list of target FA
I don’t really know what to think. I suspect we will see more OL signings
Wtf on that Houston trade.
Byron Jones, despite lack of picks is considered top 5 best cover corners in the league. You can put him on an island and not have to worry about him. Doesn’t matter the type of receiver big, small and fast, TE or RB. He can cover them all.
I know picks arent the telling story, i actually usually look at PD’s and QBR but, i dont see him as a top 5 CB. Maybe he is in the top 10 but not top 5.
No picks don’t always tell the whole story but 2 in 5 years is little concerning. Then again if teams aren’t targeting him maybe that’s part of it.
Nick Kwiatkoski to the Raiders, Blake Jarwin resigned by the boys.
This was from an article on thedraftnetwork a month or 2 ago:
At 6-foot-1, 200 pounds, Byron Jones has the kind of athleticism at the cornerback position that you can only find in a Madden created player. His speed, fluidity and lower-body explosiveness for his size is simply unparalleled, and it shows in his ability to stick on the hip pocket of most wide receivers in man coverage.
His athletic gifts have clearly molded him into one of the league’s best cornerbacks, but I’d argue his versatility to guard pass catchers of all different sizes, speeds and skillsets is what sets him apart from the rest. Some weeks, he will shadow top outside threats like DeAndre Hopkins and Odell Beckham Jr.
Other weeks, he will be assigned to elite tight ends like Zach Ertz and Travis Kelce. He’s not your typical shutdown corner who plays strictly on the outside. Jones’ production does not wane when he travels inside, and in terms of his overall coverage profile — whether zone or man — he is one of the top five most complete CBs in football.
Then you add in his production and reliability as an open-field tackler in run support. His length and physicality allow him to deconstruct blocks and play his contain role on the outside.
People like to harp on his ball skills, but he plays with excellent timing and instincts at the catch point. He may not finish plays with interceptions, but I think Cowboys fans take for granted how consistent his technique is with his back to the ball. Additionally, the biggest thing Cowboys fans could miss about Jones is his proven durability after playing 79 games in five seasons.
When they went on about potential fits, the Dolphins were the team listed.
Saints put a 1st round tender on Taysom Hill
Indy targeting Rivers
One NFL pundit teasing another big trade announcement coming up
It could be worse Fin Fans!
LOL
And wouldn’t it be so nice if they crash and burn next season.
We have their first.
Why does one signing always mean another guy is out?
Cheers!
This could be a solid signing.
If you saw the statsi posted 2wks ago when I mentioned him, it was eye opening how many TFLs he had as a non starter.
6.5 sacks, 18 QB hits and 13 tackles for loss.
Yep in a limited role so he started to turn the corner.
Looks like we are signing Lawson
Atlanta traded for Hayden Hurst they get Hurst and a 4th and the Falcon get a 2nd and 5th.
balt gets a 2nd and 5th i meant.
3yr for 30 million. Good deal
Man they like the 3 for 30 lol.Again, for a non0-starter that seems a little rich, but my idea of the better offer is pretty close to that
very good!
Must have a ton of incentives????
A lot of time a productive person as a non-starter means that they have conditioning issues though. Hopefully thats not the case or at least it can be turned around. I like the signing though.
I think we are in on Van Noy as well. Could just be a rumor, nothing solid yet.
Well Mando did Tweet he was awaiting that shoe to drop, but not sure if it was just a general comment on the player or a hint about Miami & him.
$10M per is not big money anymore. Lawson seems to be on the rise so it could be a real good deal. Looks like we’re following Stanger’s mid-tier type contracts. 😉
I talked to Tim the Phins ticket agent and guess it filtered up. 🙂
you da man
ummm
Could you mention DeAndre Swift?
LOL — I’ll get on the phone right now . 🙂
Lawson played 483 snaps last year, 47% of the defensive snaps – 32.2 snaps per game. Most teams rotate DL anyway. I have no issue with his contract. I liked him in the 2016 draft as well.
I love the Lawson signing. Flowers I still have bad memories of as the Giants are my second favorite team
As long as he doesn’t play tackle. He played well at guard last year for Washington. We’ve seen this before where tackles move inside and have better careers.
I am still skeptical on him but I hope it works out
Understood. He was bad at tackle both sides.
I’m fine with Lawson, good young player. I’m not blown away or especially happy with either of the 2 signings so far.
It’s pretty much mid-tier type signings.
I had Lawson on my list of pass rushers so I’m OK with it, he wasn’t my top choice. It really doesn’t matter much as long as we have something from FA that gives us flexibility going into the draft
I think we’ll be drafting one. Maybe we even sign another mid-tier type edge as well.
Good, blown away is only for the overpayed.
Lawson is 25.
Flowers is 25.
Haven’t signed Brady at 42 yet.
Tampa is going hardcore for Brady
Actually hope he gets his chance on a team like that. Would make for a good watch/test.
I heard Tampa offered Brady $40 million per season but not sure on how many years
Lawson also played for our DL coach at Clemson in Marion Hobby. So now he has two of his former DL in Lawson and Wilkins.
10Mil is still above average money. In the case of both these guys, there are questions about the direction they are heading, enough not to be bigger contracts, but given b oth are ont he upswing, i think they are decent enough to suggest a level of confidence in them helping our team get better.
But they’re not cap killer deals.
Lawson should really help our run defense.
This is a good way to put it.
There is a buzz that another big trade is about to go down.
Yeah i caught wind of it from one of my twitter peeps a little while ago. Its supposed to be like the Houston trade big.
Lawson really hasn’t shown that he’s much of an edge rusher. He’s more of a pocket collapser. He’s what I envision Epenesa being.
He’s a hybrid, 4-3/3-4 DE
Lawson is more of a bullrusher, he doesnt have great speed or speed moves, but he’s strong.
They must have a vision for him. We use so many formations so he’ll play some role. LOL
Yeah these are what i call smart deals, not wild spending deals. Look at the Browns for what the latter looks like
Looks like its either going to be a trade involving Gurley or Diggs
If its Gurley and you get picks back in compensation, come on down mr Gurley man/
Don’t get the Houston trade at all
Hopkins told the team he’ll hold out until he gets a new deal. That’s the only part of it that makes sense. He’s going to looking for $20M per and not all teams believe in that kind of money for WRs.
I hear it was a salary dump plus Houston wanted more picks.
(After giving us so many.)
Also their stupid HC is their stupid GM.
They didnt have any picks int he top two rounds, so they get a pick that potentially can be used to get his replacement. I dont think it was a really great deal but i think it was about a coach-player rift and getting back some picks.
WR is very deep in this draft.
Bleacher Report suggest Bills ‘can’t afford to lose’ Shaq Lawson. Accounted for half their DL stats.
More fake news, see my post below.
Diggs is tweeting out a lot of stuff right now basically saying that his time in Minnesota is over.
Pass-rusher Shaq Lawson agrees to terms with the Bills on a three-year deal worth $30 million.
Sporting News ain’t worth shit, they also said we signed Flowers to a 3 year $19.95M (actually his guaranteed money).
Bears moving on from Teddy B, looking at Dalton and Foles.
Teddy doesn’t wanna leave his crown prince role.
Buc’s resigning JPP
If we get Gurley and a 2nd we could use the pick on another RB in essence 2 RBs at $12-$16M of cap space. It’s not the worst move, but…
I’d love that.
I just ate a bunch of Broccoli and Brussel Sprouts, i bet i can clear a Walmart in a couple hours
Riggs is a head-case. I’d pass. Plus, he says he wants big money.
Not suggesting him for us.
Dammit. Diggs not Riggs.
How about Gurley and a 2nd, for a 4th?
I hear they’ll take that just so we eat his salary.
I’d do that in a sec.
I have zero interest in Diggs.
At the end of the day with any FA we sign, as long as they help the team get better I’m cool with it. 🙂
If i had to go in on a FA WR it would be Cooper..
I know we have a decent WR group, but Cooper, Parker, and any combination of Williams Grant and Wilson and we go from good to sick.Im not big on paying big for WR’s but i could see Cooper really helping us. Very very QB friendly.
Steve – I don’t see anywhere where Lawson signed with BUF. Where did you get that from?
It says right in my post Sporting News.
He was saying that TSN is inaccurate.
Atlanta cut Devonta Freeman.
He’d be happy to sign with us, but i dunno what he will be asking for money wise.