Do you hear it?
(The sound of thunder crashes behind Piggy)
Piggy Kiper here. I’m just going to hide under this desk…Some of you have been looking forward to this post…others will hate it. No matter where you fall, make sure your squiggly doesn’t get burned by the storm that is coming. Experts are saying that the 2020 NFL draft is among the deepest draft for wide receiver in years.
Is it true?
A true Samurai never reveals your fate until your throat is already cut!
(the wind picks up behind Piggy)
Most Dolfans don’t view Wide Receiver as a priority, but when you look at our roster, our top receiver is DeVante Parker, a guy who only recently blossomed – can he keep it up? After Parker it’s Preston Williams, who has the look of a great find, but who is still unproven. Then there is Albert Wilson, the focal point of the 2018 Gase offense, who may be on his way out. So there is a lot of uncertainty at the position coming into 2020. I don’t think Dolfans should rule out the possibility of a high pick on a wide receiver. But even if the Dolphins don’t do that, the Dolphins probably will spend a day 3 pick on a wide put.
But this list isn’t for Day 3 Wideouts – It for Samurai!
So let’s look at these Samurai….but be very careful…they are dangerous…
(A tornado swirls behind Piggy)
Jerry Jeudy, Alabama
With 159 receptions, 2,742 career yards and 26 career touchdowns in three years at Powerhouse Alabama, no one is overlooking this Samurai. Jeudy may be the first receiver off the board. Jeudy may be Odell Beckham, Jr. without the baggage. He’s physically gifted with incredible speed and agility. Jeudy made a lot of downfield plays during his time with Alabama and although he is fast, it wasn’t his speed that lead to a lot of those downfield plays, it was his technique. Jeudy is polished, talented and ready to go. I expect to see success early for Jeudy in the NFL. Jeudy is this year’s tornado of talent.
(lightning strikes the ground Piggy)
Henry Ruggs III, Alabama
As usual, Alabama was loaded in 2019. One position that was notable was wide receiver, where play after play, they had receivers making plays down field. In Ruggs’ case his speed really standouts. Ruggs ran a blistering 4.27 at the combine. That is what this Samurai is – FAST. If you want a guy to run downfield, pick Ruggs. Ruggs averaged 18.7 yards a catch in 2019. DBs better have a plan for this kind of speed in the NFL. One notable negative about this Samurai I don’t want to say to loud (Piggy whispers ducking from a swinging katana) his numbers dropped off a bit after the Tua injury. But he still runs like lightning and will be a real asset to any offense.
(the Earth quakes below Piggy)
Laviska Shenault, Jr., Colorado
This athletic beast is among the most physical samurai in the draft. His thick, chiseled frame is generally unaffected by contact from DBs or LBs. Honestly, it looks like this Samurai looks for contact. Shenault can be a solid outside receiver, but I think he might be more suited to do what Dolfans have seen guys like Jarvis Landry or Rishard Matthews do for us for years. Shenault is expected to go anywhere between the late first round to the early third round. I will whisper the last part…Some people think Shenault may be too physical (a samurai arrow strikes the wall behind Piggy) and he should improve his route running ability. He is this year’s Earthquake!
(A Volcano erupts behind Piggy)
Justin Jefferson, LSU
Jefferson has good speed and he will burn you like lava, but that’s not his greatest strength. Jefferson is the best route runner among these Samurais. An top notch technician among this WR class, Jefferson provided a reliable target for first overall pick Joe Burrow. The LSU offense erupted in 2019 and you can see that in Jefferson’s stats, nearly doubling his yardage from 2018 (875 yards) to 2019 (1,540 yards). A lot of experts are saying Jefferson will not be a #1 receiver, but will make a heck of a #2. Jefferson is as reliable as a volcano, if you see one, it will probably erupt some day.
(a tsunami crashes over Piggy)
Jalen Reagor, TCU
Thanks a lot Jalen, now I’m all wet! (Piggy floats to the surface) It seems calm for a moment…too calm…all of the sudden boom…Jalen Reagor goes the distance and breaks open the game. With elite speed and an uncanny ability change direction, DBs should never get comfortable around Reagor. Think of Reagor as a poor man’s Ruggs, if there was no poverty. Speed both vertically and laterally defines this terrific talent and helped him collect 1,061 yards and 9 TDs in 2018.
(A Blizzard forms around Piggy)
CeeDee Lamb, Oklahoma
Brrrrrrrrr…This one is cold. CeeDee Lamb put up great numbers at Oklahoma, not doubt those numbers were inflated by the system – but you can’t ignore what he did. Lamb looked like he was running around frozen defenders. He is so quick, they froze in place with his every move. At 6’2, 189 pounds, he has good size but what stands out about Lamb is his body control. That body control helps him make some tough catches and then quickly regain his balance and use his quickness to pack on the yards after the catch while the defenders stand around him like icicles.
(A comet crashes in front of Piggy)
Tee Higgins, Clemson
Wow! I didn’t even see that coming! I should have, given Clemson has produced some terrific Samurais over the years. Higgins is this little Piggy’s favorite samurai this year. At 6-4, 215 what you can see on the tape with Higgins is his ability to attack the ball while it’s in the air and make it his. He’s a graceful receiver who will make your toe touching catch on a ball that most receivers think is out of reach. He will enagage with CBs playing press and come up with the big catch. He’s also very shifty for a tall receiver and will certianly break tackles and get the all important YAC. Higgins compares favorably to AJ Green.
Now you know who the samurais are. Beware!
Finsmob Unleashed 
FU MOCK DRAFT
How about Wednesday evening, right before the draft. Anyone else agree or good with that?
Okay – that works for me
The Flying Pig says:
April 15, 2020 at 7:14 pm (Edit)
How do you guys feel about 9pm tonight for the mock draft
Don’t worry if you don’t make it – we can do another one
But let’s get one under our belt
Reply
If you want to do a practice run through Mock, we can do that too, but it will take some sizzle out of the real one tho
Now that’s a good post to get the page turn! YES!!!
😆👍
back biting rapist
Piggy goodell are you there? Oh yeah booooo
There’s no booing this year
I thought we were doing the mock at 9pm?
There’s not really much feedback
But we can check….who’s out there and who wants to do a mock?
Anyone?
No one home
Nope
We can set up a practice run through a few days away. Let’s try and get everyone on the same page
Hey… what about this? We do a mock draft with no sizzle!
DRAFT? Draft for what? 2021?
I just now “heard” the pressure to reopen the economy is May 1.
NO TESTING is available on ANY scale that will make this successful. We haven’t even tested 1% of the population. WTF?
Good luck having a season this year or having anywhere near a normal life this year without testing. It’s too bad.
We test every draftee for ear wax to toe fungus, but we don’t test for a deadly virus. SMH.
Oh well, cull the herd.
Why do you need a test for assholes? It’s pretty obvious when you “see” one.
COVID infects silently and is carried secretly without symptoms. Pretty insidious.
I wonder about how things are going to move forward from this. My mom is just short of 76 and has been smoking for the better part of 60 years. She has mild (?) COPD and has been on a CPAP For a few years now with the oxygen concentrator when she sleeps (not using oxygen otherwise). She’s been in her house alone for a bit over a month. My sister keeps up with her grocery and household needs from the store, so she’s being taken care of.. but I doubt she’d survive the virus if she contracted it. So in effect it feels like opening everything back up is a death sentence for her, though I realize she can try to stay barricaded in her house. I know we can’t stay like this forever, but it would be nice to know what the plan is.
I think it will be up to the states how they re-open. As Krishna has mentioned (hammered 😇), testing programs, (especially anti-body testing) are the key. While the feds could supply test kits, I believe the states are best positioned to run the testing. Feds would want to create a brand new agency and call it the Department of Testing for Shit then expand it to regulate everything with the word test in it. However, testing 350 million US citizens seems unrealistic. And what about illegals? Anybody think they will come forward to be tested or that they cannot be vectors? Or that the answer is open borders?
My entire work force is screening airline passengers everyday. I would surely like to see some kind of program that would give them a little health security.
Today I think Miami picks Love
You must not have seen it the new rage is no QB 🤔
Round 1 pick 5 miami selects Andrew Thomas.
We can both be right.
Everyone is gathered around to see which quarterback they will select, until they don’t. The Dolphins ended up fooling us all! It’s an interesting situation to think about, as it really hasn’t been brought up much during the offseason.
Phinsider
I think it’s now a given these people are U75.
The subject was what if we don’t take a QB at 5.
Joe Schad said, if we don’t take a QB and Okudah was there that should be the pick. We talked about that yesterday.
I think, thanks to the Chinese government and the WHO, that COVID-19 is here to stay. It’s the new flu season.
Isnt roger daltry dead?
Yes, but the music lives on.
Who are you?
I dont see us opening up by may 1. The curve is still going up. 30k new cases in the last 24hrs.
Jeez guys, Roger Daltry is NOT dead! Who the fuck are you?
Who who
Maybe he just looks dead. Or maybe he’s dead and they are propping him up.
Like Weekend at bidens?
Highest completion % outside the numbers last season among top QB prospects in the 2020 draft: Joe Burrow 71.1% Tua Tagovailoa 70.0% Jalen Hurts 68.5% Justin Herbert 60.5% Anthony Gordon 57.5% Jordan Love 57.3%
Camoron Wolfe
A lot to do with supporting cast, system, does a bubble screen count…but if you have a noodle arm it could mean a lot.
Very difficult to assimilate stats like that. Burrow and Tua had great receivers. I know you already mentioned that but just reinforcing that fact. It’s nice to know when you throw to a guy that not only will he get open but that he will make the catch
Fuck CBS Sports and their 7 RD Mock. We traded #5, #18, #70 to get Tua. I actually like the picks they made #3 Tua, #26 Josh Jones, #39 Cesar Ruiz, #56 Jonathan Taylor but I really don’t believe we will be trading up.
Problem with this is we really only get 4 quality players from this draft. We should have more! I want more!
Shit meet wall
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-mock-draft-seven-rounds-18-trades-255-picks-and-full-breakdowns-for-all-32-teams/
I will need to purchase a new 70″ LED TV if they are stupid enough to trade away 5,18 & 70 to move up for a guy who will be there at pick 6 (hopefully, after we pass on him) because I will be losing my shit and breaking my own stuff.
You should watch it at your ex’s house. Break her fucking TV
https://www.espn.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/91396/bigger-risk-dolphins-pick-tua-tagovailoa-or-pass-on-him-in-nfl-draft
So help me God, if they make that trade for a QB with durability questions.🤬
I will still be pissed if they take Tua at 5, but I won’t be breaking stuff.
Landing Tua, Jones, Ruiz and Taylor would be a pretty good draft
The problem in giving up the 18 pick and 70 is usually where it puts us in terms of landing an OT
I don’t think it’s likely that an OT like Jones or Jackson fall to #39
That’s my concern in that trade up
But I would be happy if we walked away with those 4 players
Also instead of Ruiz, maybe a safety at 56 – what if you can get a Winfield or a Delpit there –
That ends up being a heck of a draft
I think Ruiz is more important than a S, way more important
Even given the Karras and the Flowers signing?
I wouldn’t mind really zeroing in on OL in this draft
But it’s the other OT that concerns me more than interior OL
What if we took Okudah and a ball hawk safety?
Why do we take Okudah after the Jones singing
We have Howard and Jones right now at CB
Do we need Okudah too?
I’m actually almost positive that Detroit at 3 really wants to trade back and select okudah who will probably be there at 5 or 6
But I don’t buy that the redskins who will take young at 2 will
Trade back
Or the giants at 4 will miss a chance to take an OT (they need it) or a game changer like Simmons
If anything you can move up to 4 to prevent SD from taking your guy with a day 3 pick
But none of these trade ups really should take a lot of capital
This team is sending out the message to the nfl that they are fine with Tua or Herbert
There’s one team that can probably afford to trade back without giving up on a player they want and that’s Detroit
The redakins aren’t trading
With the giants – it’s one spot and almost a throw away
With the lions, yes they want to trade back
It that should not take the 18 when there are limited options
The only threat is that the chargers give up a first and a second (which is a lot) to take a risk on Tua or Herbert knowing the other one falls into their lap at 6
The threat to the Dolphins if they love Herbert it Tua is whether the chargers trade the 37th pick and the 6th to the lions for the 3
You don’t have to give up the 18 to beat that threat
You can give up the 26 (and get a later pick in return) and the 5
Or even give up the 5, 39 and a 4th or 5th round pick too to outbid the chargers
If you are the lions does the difference between the 37 and 39 make a huge difference to you if you pick up a 5th
That’s the competition for the 3 pick
The chargers – who get the other one between Tua and Herbert if they want it, take the same risk as us, and really have a diffuser time outbidding is
You would never give up the 18 with that risk
Then other team that is a threat to move up is Jacksonville
And they have 2 first rounders so they are a bigger threat to squeeZe us from the 18
But I would still take the 5 and 26 before I take the 9 and 20 if I were the lions
And I’m generally not buying that the lions want to move down that far or the jags want to to move up to 3 or even are zeroing in on QB now
You move to 3 and not 4, because you don’t want the Chargers jumping you.
I get that. The only way a move to 4 makes sense is while the giants are on the clock
And by then it won’t take much and the giants may say – why not I’ll take a 5th round to get the player I take at 4 anyway
The point is that the chargers can’t really outbid us
You don’t need the 18 to outbid them
You can use the 26 or the 39 and an additional pick later to outbid the chargers
It’s also worth mentioned that I think this virtual draft thing is going to get in the way of draft day trades (especially early in the first round) while everyone is figuring it all out
If there’s a trade to the 3 spot, it will probably happen the day before the draft
And that’s a dangerous trade to make given that there is still a 2 spot to trade into
Would you do that if you are the chargers knowing that the Dolphins have a ton of capital to usurp what you did by moving into 2 – no way!
I think the point is, the Dolphins are sitting pretty at 5 with capital to move up if they are set on one guy, they have obviously circulated rumors that they like Herbert too, and as many others have mentioned here – maybe it’s more likely they move up from 18 to say 13 to get an OT than move up from 5 to 3 with the 18 to get a QB
These mocksters and pundits aren’t looking at from the point of view of a negotiation
– the dolphins have sent a message that Herbert or Tua isn’t so bad
– there aren’t a lot of people with ammo to get up to 3 and outbid if necessary
– if you move to 3 ahead of the draft l, we can move to 2
I think we are staying at 5 and taking the guy we want, who may not even be a QB
Piggy – I also think we’re staying put at 5, and we’ll take who’s there
Man the more i get closer to the draft and hone into a strategy, i think i like the idea of staying put at 5, take Brown or Thomas or Herbert, whichever we thing we need to secure, and then use 26 to move up from 18 with a team like Carolina and get one of the other two. Im hoping Thomas will be one of the two. With the two seconds an all the 5ths we canmove around day 2 as well if we wanted to. But i think i like the idea of having two top 10’s over 3 top 26’s
Im thinking Chargers probably jump us for Tua, and what we would have to give up to prevent it, ie we would be bent over a stump, would just be more thaan this FO would be willing to part with.
I don’t really like the idea of taking a non-QB O player at 5, if it’s not a QB you need a special player Okudah, Young or Simmons any of the 3 will do. I don’t think we need to waste 5 on an OT, we can get one at 18 that will do the job good enough.
It’s the Fantasy Footbal logic of you don’t take a QB early, because the pt difference on one later is minimal (value over replacement), but for an RB its significant. The guy that won our league took 3 RBs in first 4 rounds and stuck mostly to the big board.
Mike how do you want to go about discussions for that article?
We could either email, or if you’d rather do it by phone or text, we could do that too. What’s your preference?
LOL To your 180′ self!
https://twitter.com/WorstDolphinFan/status/1250760621651623937?s=20
Don’t let the door…
Like someone in the FO is going to listen to this schmuck. Blackmail, really?
Not only that, but he is playing the result; no one knew Rogers was going to be all pro, not did they know about Brees. And though I like Lamar Jackson, odd like to see what they say about him in year 5-6.
Nor=not
I’d=odd
Has anyone heard how OD is doing?
I thought he just sent a message to Garfinkel😉
I say we let Detroit trade with the Chargers. Then when we are on the clock we call Detroit telling them we are taking Okudah, unless they want to trade up. We will gladly take half of what they got in the Chargers trade. LOL
I like, but I’d also like Okudah.
Grier presser: I’m going to talk for awhile and say nothing! 😉
That’s what he supposed to do, say nothing.
Grier’s response probably went something like this with the QB question. I’m not going to get into specific position, just that our board is not set.
Not the underwear Olympics????
I have a new theory….Miami takes Tua at 5 then doubles down on QB taking Love at 18. There everyone should be happy.
That’s not a bad idea, but we have Rosen for Tua insurance. Maybe that’s why we still have Rosen. If you think about it, Tua would be the healthy starter, if he gets hurt you play Rosen. Tua when not injured could be great, as long as you have a backup plan, it could work.
I will volunteer to be bacon if that happens
I’ll warm up the smoker
I have a feeling that the intensifying “Hebert chatter” is to create hesitation in a LAC trade up… It may be an attempt to get LAC to “accept whichever is available” … then Fins take Tua without dipping into war chest of picks.
If they did their job right….. no one would know. No matter what we do.
I posted a while back, but didn’t get a response. Is it worth it to draft Tua hypothetically knowing he wont complete 50% of the seasons he’s on the team, but the ones he plays the team is in the playoffs and makes at least 1 SB?
That’s silly Steve. He could play 16 games each and every season for 12 seasons.
Come on man, it’s a hypothetical. Would you take that?
Whatever the hypothetical, if it results in a SB, I would say it’s worth it (.
(excluding felonious players)
What about pheloniusphish phish?
Also playing into it would assume we’d have Rosen as a backup.
D – check your mail
Not a shocker that Chris Grier is excited about this draft.
”I hear from people at the grocery store. I had a pest control guy spraying for ants at the house, and he was asking me Dolphins questions. My wife and kids, every day they pop in my office: ‘Who are we taking?’ It’s a fun and exciting thing.”
Steve – To your hypothetical, no, I wouldn’t take that
“but the ones he plays the team is in the playoffs and makes at least 1 SB?” — and that is every other season. I might take that. Every other season we hit the post-season. And in the other seasons we might make the playoffs as well.
Does show that we are in the “what if” part of the off season though. 🙂
I think it would be so damn frustrating having to watch him get hurt all the time, I’d rather not deal with that
I have a hard time believing he’ll last very long being hurt that much. He’s already coming into the league being hurt several times. …hand, knee, quad, 2 ankle injuries, and hip. IMO, it all adds up over time.
And that is a reason not to take him. Only really worried about the hip injury though. But that is a big’un. Still was supposed to be #1 #1 before that happened.
What am I supposed to believe after this gibberish
https://twitter.com/theflyingpig44/status/1250898999688691713?s=21
Rich – Thing is, you never know how things might turn out. Tua may end up having a healthy career and be one of the great QB’s of his time. He is a very good player, he might be worth the risk, I already pointed out Frank Gore and I’m sure there are more examples of players who had injuries in college but went on to have clean professional careers.
Yes, but we were talking about the hypothetical scenario where Tua was missing 50% of the time. In this day in age, I have a hard time believing anyone lasting long getting hurt that much.
Oh, OK, so not in reality, just with Steve’s hypothetical situation. Gotcha
In reality who knows what will happen. I can’t nor will I try and predict his future. He could have a Frank Gore career, or a Sam Bradford career, or he could get tired of getting hurt and retire early like a Luck or Kuechly. That’s for Miami to decide with their first pick if the risk is worth it.
Here’s some light reading. I’ll leave you to decide what to make of it.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/tua-tagovailoa-josh-rosen-comparison-nfl-draft-2020
The guy who wrote that article looks 14 years old. lol
LOL
Most of our favorite spots are still delivering. Two notable exceptions to that have learned recently are a Thai/Japanese place and our favorite Chinese delivery spot. Both really popular before. Hoping it is not cause of the “Chinese virus.” Take Asian pride seriously in our apartment.
You guys are inadvertently touching off on what I have been saying. We have no clue what happens with This that’s why that scenario Steve did it hard to answer. Most people have either walked away from the table or they have doubled down because we as fans with limited knowledge of the situation can set our minds like that. The FO already know what they are doing but the didn’t come to that as easy as we as fans did. We don’t know what they think we don’t know what the best decision is, but we are about to find out. Trust the process 🙂
If we choose Herbert and Tua goes on to have a HOF career it will be the Brees/Culpepper decision revisited again!
With our luck, whoever we choose the other will have the better career. …Life of a Dolphins fan.😉
The difference is they were both already in the league with Brees being a FA and we had to trade for Culpepper. Culpepper was also coming off of a season ending knee surgery. Herbert and Tua are draft prospects so it’s hoping you made the right choice. What if we choose Tua and Herbert goes onto to have a HOF career? What of they both have great careers or both are busts? Lets hope whoever we pick is at least good. 🙂
Twice! We let Bree’s walk 2 MF times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With the virtual draft and even during normal drafts, teams that are interested in trading up or down usually have deals in place so that when they agree the parameters have already been decided upon and approved by the league.
Similar to the legal tampering period, deals get done but it waits until draft before exposed.
Yep!
We could go right with any decision and wrong with any, does that not give peace to some of you lol. To me it says, I have no control here therefore find peace. I’m good going into this draft. Too many options for a good result I’m not worried and I’m not stressing it at all. One of the few times in the past I can say that.
Agreed. That’s why I’ve discussed all kind of scenarios. I’m okay with whatever we do because all that matters are the team results and not draft grades.
Some stuff from Grier.
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article242053316.html
He says they feel good about 8 or 9 players at #5.
This time next week we will know our first pick, unless we trade down.
Yeah and it’s going to be interesting to watch how it works virtually.
Piggy, you mentioned earlier that why take Okudah when we already added Jones. Dallas used Jones all over the field to cover outside, slot and TEs. Not only would Okudah upgrade our secondary along with X, but makes it deeper as guys like Needham become the 4th corner etc. We improve our pass rush and throw those 3 corners out there, that’s pretty badass.
Tim
I don’t care
I just saw James Bond fight a snake and nothing else matters anymore
LOL
🙂
All those hot girls really like snake
We’ve all been there
Parachute into a pool of hot women, think you hit the goldmine
Then you have to fight an anaconda instead
It happens
Thanks for the well wishes everyone!
Quick update…
Applied for grant 3 weeks ago. Haven’t heard a word. Applied for loan 2 weeks ago. Haven’t heard a word. I’m not the least bit surprised….
Governor announced 1 more month of shut down today.
I’m excited for the draft. Part of me wonders if there is even going to be a season…. I hope so! Unless they draft Tua. He needs another year of social distancing to keep from getting injured. Lol
i doubt detroit will pass on okuda however i think the giants may go OT, they do some crazy things in the draft like drafting daniel jones so early, that would leave Simmons as the BPA @ 5.
Not sure if Simmons is there that we pick him, there may be a host of teams willing to sell the farm to move up and get him.
I can’t find 5 best (for our TEAM) prospects other than SIMMONS. so he may be available.
(EDGE) YOUNG, (DL) BROWN and the best (OT) are the only 3 I can see, not sold on any QB 🙂
RIP Brian Dennehy.
That sucks. He was a type fast actor but he was good in those roles. RIP indeed.
Cast
The point of the Tua hypothetical yesterday, was to determine what you guys were looking for or would settle for. Mike wants the sky, and that’s fine, but that might require us taking a QB high in the next several drafts or every other draft for a while. I’m sure we all want the next Marino to fall into our lap, but what price are we willing to pay to get it? Seems like when you get the next great QB it makes others look better, at least on O.
I don’t think we need the next great QB, just someone like Herbert and maybe Love that has all the tools, that can be molded into what Flores wants. I don’t think either of these 2 have deal breaking traits, but I do think Tua and Burrow do. I think Burrow is possibly Mayfield 2.0 without the asshole factor, could be wrong, but he seems to lack a strong enough arm and may be a product of the system.
Brady didn’t and doesn’t have the strongest arm.
I don’t agree, his arm is much stronger than Burrow, but I’m not saying Burrow is going to bust, just that there’s a chance and he may be more Andy Dalton type career (not the same type of QBs, comparing career accomplishments).
The ability to read defenses, set protection, and go through progressions is what Burrow has that I want in a QB.
Why not shoot for the stars? If you’ve read any of my articles I actually don’t think we need the best QB in the NFL. I want to build a great team. I do think a great QB can elevate a team though. I think Ryan Tannehill showed us that even with optimum conditions, he’s not going to beat the best team with the best QB. That’s why I don’t want to trade up to get a QB, whether it’s Burrow or Tua. If we can get Tua, (or doubtfully Burrow) by staying pat at #5 I’m in. I want to build a great team with a great QB too. Capiche?
ER – I’m wondering what your expectations are for business once they decide to reopen everything. Do you plan on making changes (less tables with larger distances between them) or just opening up and letting people decide whether they want to keep their distance. I’m curious because I’m thinking of what’s going to happen when my place reopens. I could just see a mob of people in the waiting room and then people crowding while looking at frames. That’s the kind of thing that could send the whole thing backwards into another lockdown.
Good, Ford was a good posession receiver for us late in the year. I’m ok with him taking snaps from Wilson.
Scary when I signed on it was at comment 666 so this is comment 667. LOL
Wyo is the debbil!
🙂
I think the success of our next QB will be determined by Flores as much as anything. I think he’ll set him up for success as much as possible, that’s my argument for taking Herbert/Love (prototypical size big arm good athlete).
For Tua I think it can work, even, if he gets hurt, by using the duel QBs with Rosen.
Burrow can work with the least prodding in the right system, but is his ceiling high enough?
And maybe a functional OL? 😉
That’s all part of setting a QB up for success. I don’t like Wills at 5, but he’s a good run blocker that would be part of this too.
I really just want the draft to get here and be done with so we can start discussing the reality of what is then what it might be. I can’t take the speculation anymore. I think we’ve covered just about every scenario.
Then what? For the rest of the offseason we’ll be bored.
No then we can talk about the potential of the team for however long it takes for the NFL to start playing games. LOL
They should’ve strung out the draft to one round per day. It would’ve been like a spring break week for fans.
I think we could come up with at least 1 more scenario. lol
What if the Chargers jump us and take Herbert, and we were set to take him? Do we then take Tua or take Love at 18?
I’d take Love at 18 over Tua at 5. Also would take none in 1st and take a project like Eason, Fromm or Gordon in 3rd/4th. Maybe even the FIU QB in 5th. IMO, if Fromm had Eason’s or Herbert’s arm, he would be top 10. He may be the best QB in the draft at reading defenses. He is just cursed with a weak arm.
whats wrong with Rosen & Fitz?
Fitz is old and Rosen is unproven. I’m ok with not taking a QB in the 1st, but if I don’t I’m looking at Hurts in the 2nd, if Love goes rd 1.
What’s wrong with swapping with the jaguars 1st round picks and taken their next year’s 1st and maybe another second this year if they want simmons?
With their pick we take 1 of the top 4 offensive tackle
Or Herbert or Love. We can get an OT at 18.
Works for me.
If we can get that take it in a second unless they have their desired QB at #5. Wouldn’t count on a 2nd this year though (next year’s first is fair value)…… but who knows what happens on draft day.
we would have three 1s &two 2s again next year
I’d do that in a heartbeat.
No way the Jags are doing that, based on the draft value chart it would cost them 350 pts to move up, their 2nd is worth 480, so they better really love Simmons.
or maybe throw yannick in the deal
Then pay him an $80-100M contract?
My thoughts exactly.
Rosen can’t call out the Mike or set protections. Two years in the NFL and still couldn’t at the end of the season. His accuracy drops by 35% when he is forced from the pocket, drops by 37% when he is forced to move his platform, drops by 24% when pressured and drops by 20% when he has to throw to a receiver past his first read. But other than that he is great! Eyeroll
Fitz is old and inconsistent.
Fitz will be fine for this year or until the QB we draft (if we draft a QB) is ready. Rosen I definitely have my doubts about. Even if we don’t take a QB I don’t think this team is heavily invested in him, they will probably just draft a QB next year.
You read Solak’s article didn’t you.
LOL yes.
steveccnv says:
They should’ve strung out the draft to one round per day. It would’ve been like a spring break week for fans.
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I Like that idea. Maybe not all the way, but first, second and third get their own day. Then one for #4 and #5. Then #6 and #7. That’s 5 days. You start on Friday and are done on Tuesday .
Solak’s article is right on the money with Rosen. I watched that video someone posted on every Rosen pass vs Dallas. Then, I watched the same video’s of Rosen vs the Charges and Redskins. What he says about Rosen is spot on. Man, our receivers had a lot of bad drops in everyone of those games. With a clean pocket, Rosen was sharp and on the money. Once it broke down, not so much.
I think Solak is right on the money with his observation of Tua as well. Tua’s drop off is even worse. Also, this comment: “20.8% of his attempts went beyond his first read, which is the second-best number in this class, and 14.5% of his attempts went into tight windows, which is second-worst.” That is what I have been saying for months. He rarely takes the shot when it’s tight coverage and that is the reason almost 21% of this passes went beyond the first read. He had 3 not 2 of the top WR’s in college football (Jeudy, Ruggs and Smith). He could afford to do that cause one of those 3 would get open. He is not going to have that luxury in the NFL and is going to struggle.
We know Rosen was crap under pressure, but with some blocking, and a little more experience he’ll be able to figure it out. One of his games he was getting dropped in the first quarter, then he started moving around, and looked like Fitz. He needs to run it a little more to give himself another out. He’ll be ok going forward.
as a backup on another team? Sure.
Are you saying the fact he went past his first read is bad? Thats a good trait, pick the most open guy. It would only be bad IF he had to have the wide open to make a throw and then in the NFl that would make him spend too much time picking out the perfect receiver, which they will coach him to use outlet when the timing starts to get bad. I dont see that as a negative i see it as a plus that he is safe with the throw.
You have to follow up that with, and got sacke a lot before that trait is a bad one
Also, he should have similar luxury in our receivers or we need new receivers, out of 4 guys potentially in routes, one cant get open?
Im not pro Tuan, im pro whoever they pick, but seems like a lot are scavenging for articles to make their point and i just dont buy it. All teams all reporters eetc nutting all over themselves over the guy, best college QB, yadda yadda and just now it s all like or well he goes to his second read too much….wait what? I thought read progression was good, now its not? Whats bnext, i mean year he is 70% accurate but he throws the ball too perfectly to the receiver, thats gonna be a problem at the next level, and BBM im not targeting you, im targeting that article if they are downplaying positive things like going through your reads.
This is a bunch of shit splatter coming out from people who want clicks, it happens every year around the same time. Just trust the coaches, just trust their process. these other yahoos are pulling stuff from their butts and selling it to everyone who is nervous over one guy or another
Sometimes it’s large pieces of furniture!
stangerx says:
April 17, 2020 at 1:30 pm
steveccnv says:
They should’ve strung out the draft to one round per day. It would’ve been like a spring break week for fans.
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I Like that idea. Maybe not all the way, but first, second and third get their own day. Then one for #4 and #5. Then #6 and #7. That’s 5 days. You start on Friday and are done on Tuesday .
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Im the opposite, i wish they would compress the days down some. 2 rounds each day sounds better, until 5th and then 5, 6, 7 all together. 3 days and done.
TBH though, im also of the personality type that doesnt at all care about surprises, so could just be personal likes and dislikes.
We’re all different D. I did like the days when first two rounds went off on Saturday though. And started in football game time. Friday night is a going out night, but then that not an issue now.
If Tua is off the board for Injury concerns??
Barring a trade up to #1? I’d say the Dolphins do not draft a QB!
So Omar is vehemently pro Tua and vehemently anti Herbert so I think we should draft Herbert. My general rule of Thumb is whatever Omar says, do the opposite
This thought process should be taken into consideration. Seriously! LOL
I think a double down on OT may very well happen. If we don’t trade away a lot of late round picks to move around, I could see us also double down on RB as well. Something all us mocksters have done on here numerous times.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/nfl-draft-2020-double-down-miami-dolphins-las-vegas-raiders
I’m hoping for two OTs as well , or at least two on the OL. Rooting for two in the top 5, and would be happy with 2 in the first. RBs…. hope part of the double down comes in the 5th.
I think we should go with BPA. and it looks very much like that would be Simmons at 5.
1. Burrow
2. Young
3.okuda
4. Best OT
5?
Grier said they have 8-9 players they’d feel good about at #5.
Some offensive sleeper picks. Having given much thought about QB Huntley and hadn’t heard about OL Clark. I have mocked Michael Warren to us a couple times when I doubled down on RB. I mentioned TE Keene once before as late round pick.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/nfl-draft-sleepers-offensive-prospects-2020
Ken says:
April 17, 2020 at 2:42 pm
So Omar is vehemently pro Tua and vehemently anti Herbert so I think we should draft Herbert. My general rule of Thumb is whatever Omar says, do the opposite
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You may have convinced me with that one Ken.
Way too much logic to deny.
Tim Knight says:
April 17, 2020 at 2:53 pm
Grier said they have 8-9 players they’d feel good about at #5.
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This statement right here says to me, stay put at 5, but i really think it means they wont be taken for fools to trade up. So i think at very least people swont be thinking we destroyed ourselves if we do trade up and if they cant get a good deal they will stay put and take who is on the top of their list when they get there.
Like i said, my feeling on it, if it were me, id probably do that same thing at 5, take a good deal if i could get one, not if i couldnt, take whatever player at 5 i thought was best. Same at 18 and 26 to be honest. Id trade 26 and 18 to move up back into top 10 and grab another guy i really liked, but im not giving up much past that
I agree. Could be QB at 5 and move back up for OT.
That’s my strategy!
How can you not like fitzpatrick after that 75 yard last drive of the season to kill the pats. Im still giddy about that
Honestly I think Miami could take any of the top 4 QBs at 5 and have great success long term with them. I take a step back to when Gailey ran our O back in the day and ask myself how much better would that O run with any of these QBs and one of the top RBs from this year….and to be honest I get a little rise from it😂
D – We should probably get started planning this article if we’re gonna do it
Yeah man, let me get done with work today and we can talk over the first bit of it tonight one way or the other
Sounds good. Just send me a text before you call so I can make sure I’m not in the middle of anything when I call you back.
Sorry – Just send a text and then I’ll call you. lol
ill text you to text me so i can text you that you can call to say i can call…..
Are you saying the fact he went past his first read is bad?
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D, No, not at all. In fact, it shows one of the things he is very good at. This just in my opinion (which doesn’t mean much, LOL) that he will pass up a tight window throw. He will not get that much time in the NFL. I just think he will get beat up to much scrambling around trying to find the wide open guy. Again, that’s just me though.
Though, I don’t know the system Gailey runs. He may be a perfect fit for it.
I think it would make him better that he is choosey, they will coach him on the idea that he has to get rid of it sooner in the NFL, thats a speed of the game thing that a lot of people have to adjust to.
That add was around when you were a senior citizen.
No doubt that is something that can be fixed. Also, I don’t put him in that category of a QB who hangs on to the ball to long either. He is a play maker and that’s what they do.
Not kidding, I think I stressed this so many times before free agency started. Each and every article I said that we would be looking for players not older than 28 in FA to start the rebuild.
LOL D – We’ll do that!
Thanks for posting the Wildcat game Wyo. I’ve enjoyed reliving that experience and resetting the memory of that game. Before watching, I had thought we really struggled with offense that game, then switched to the wildcat and reversed our fortunes, but we were killing them through the air even before we unleashed the WC. Pennington was fun to watch when he wasn’t rehabbing a shoulder injury.
And Pets fans are easily the 2nd biggest bunch of douchebags on the planet. Their team went undefeated in the reg season the year before, they were 2-0 coming into this game even after losing Brady early in the opener against the Chiefs. They were only down 21-6 at the end of the 1st half against us, and the fans were booing them as the team left the field.
It’s been a bast watching this one again.
Cheers, Wyo!
*blast
Por Nada
When you go grocery shopping in Queens
Nicest person working in my building gave me a talking too yesterday for not wearing a mask. Was just getting the mail.
And that was pre Coronavirus 😆
Mike E
Idk what’s going to happen….
Another update. Just received word we will not be getting the loan to pay all our employees. Seems the money has already been spent. I have reached out to several other owners around here and every single one was notified the same as me. Looks like the little guys once again take back seat to the corps. Nothing new.
And not one of them have seen a dime of this mysterious grant money for payroll either.
I’m sorry for the rant, I’m a bit perturbed at the moment.
what really is sticking in my craw is that these hedge funds that trade millions of dollars and make millions for there employees trading other peoples money are technically small businesses and droves of them applied and were given the loans.
From Omar on Twitter:
You can prop up Justin Herbert as much as you like. Put some makeup on him and dress him all fancy. He’s a nice QB. But when you put on the film you’ll see he’s all arm and very limited accuracy. Then there’s the introvert personality. Do you want that as your team’s leader?
Omar is just staying in shape during the offseason. Has to be ready to bash our new QB whoever it is. Or if we don’t take one to say “why didn’t they have the balls to trade up for Burrow?”
If Tua suffers a serious injury he’ll flip it to I warned you.