2020 NFL Draft – Miami Dolphins on the clock

The draft is finally here and D and I are going to break it down for you . We’re going to go over needs, and then give you players all over the draft at each position of need .

OT

Andrew Thomas – Georgia – 6’5 315 (36 1/8″ arms) – Top 10 D, Mike

Thomas is probably the most complete LT prospect in this draft. He has the size, the footwork and he also has lamp posts for arms at over 36 inches. He needs to add strength but I do caution not to go crazy over only putting up 21 reps at the combine, longer arms make it much more difficult to bench press. Thomas has played both tackle spots, he started at RT immediately as a Freshman and then in his Sophomore year he switched to LT and has been there since.

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Isaiah Wilson – Georgia – 6’5 350 (35 1/2″ arms) – RD 1- 2 – D

Wilson projects better to be a RT in the NFL. He’s a power player with a huge frame but only has 2 years of college experience. Born in Brooklyn NY (shout out!), Wilson definitely needs work on his footwork but shows traits of good technique and footwork at times. Wilson is a strong run blocker and his protection improved as the year went on which leads one to believe he will continue to improve with additional work. If you like Becton because of his size, Wilson is potentially a better player who is also a man among boys.

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QB

Tua Tagovailoa – Alabama – 6’0 217 – #5 – D, Mike

OK, I’m just going to put this out there. Give Tua a clean bill of health and this guy is the #1 pick in the draft. All the love for Joe Burrow is somewhat warranted but Tua is probably the best QB in this draft. He improved every year he played, unlike the one year wonder Joe Burrow. I know Burrow had a record breaking season but it was just one great season. Nothing the kid did before 2019 made you think this kid even belonged in discussions of the best QB’s. He played 13 games and threw 16 TD’s and 5 INT’s in his Junior year. Yeah, you can say it all came together and he progressively got better but I don’t buy it. Tua was consistently a top QB and if not for the injuries there wouldn’t be a question. I’m not saying the injuries don’t scare me, they do because I don’t have access to medical records and doctors to analyze them but the Miami Dolphins do, and if at #5 or earlier Tua’s name is called for us, you’ll know that they were comfortable in what they saw and were told by those doctors.

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EDGE

K’Lavon Chaisson – LSU – 6’3 254 – #18 – D, Mike

I know this will probably come as a surprise but I think even with the free agency acquisitions of Shaq Lawson, Kyle Van Noy and Emmanuel Ogbah, I think we’re still down a true pass rush threat. I think Chaisson has the size and speed and good character we’ll be looking for. First of all, the kid has very little experience in football, he never played HS football. He’s also only 20 years old, and he has plenty of time to learn. In his only full season of play in the SEC he managed 6.5 sacks and 13.5 stops behind the line of scrimmage. I think this kid could end up being a top pass rusher with time and effort. He wore the #18 jersey at LSU which is given only to high character leaders. We may have to be patient for him turn into a star, it may be a couple of years, but he can give us some much needed juice in the pass rush early on and I’ll take it.

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Jonathan Greenard – Florida – 6’3 263 – RD 2 – D

Greenard is one of D’s guys. He likes his motor and especially his work ethic. Greenard works hard at his craft and his effort never fluctuates. He played his first 3 years at Louisville before transferring his Senior season to Florida. He enjoyed his best and most productive season at Florida registering double digit sacks (10) for the first time and adding 16 TFL as well as 3 FF’s and 1 INT. Not a very fast or quick he’s an intelligent defender. He did suffer a serious wrist injury which has hampered him since so doctors have to get a check on that.

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Jabari Zuniga – Florida – 6’3 264 – RD 4 – D

Zuniga is a big, strong pass rushing prospect. While Greenard put up the big sack numbers in 2019, when Greenard wasn’t there in 2018, Zuniga put up 6.5 sacks for the Gators. Injuries plagued his Senior season but still managed to register 3 sacks in just 3 starts, 5 games played. Zuniga battled a high ankle sprain all season and that’s what kept him from having a monster Senior campaign. Zuniga is powerful enough to move to the interior D-line in special pass rush packages. Once again, we’re talking position flexibility.

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RB

D’Andre Swift – Georgia – 5’8 212 – #18-26 – Mike

Swift is a compact, durable back much in the mold of Frank Gore. He’s a dual threat back, he can run and catch equally as well. He’d be the perfect complement to Jordan Howard who for the most part is just a straight ahead power back. Swift can get the yards on the ground or through the air which is a much needed element for our team. Swift doesn’t have an insane amount of mileage on his legs either with 440 total carries over 3 seasons. Let’s face it, you have to have at least 2 RB’s who can start in the NFL and getting Swift takes care of that.

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Clyde Edwards-Helaire – LSU – 5’7 207 – RD 2 – D

Edwards-Helaire is hands down D’s favorite RB in this draft class. What D likes most about Edwards-Helaire is the fire he plays with and the chip he has on his shoulder, and it’s relentless. While D feels Swift might have more talent, he likes his ability to shed tacklers with Barry Sanders like moves, “ankle-breakers” if you will. D thinks he’s a strong downhill one-cut runner but can take it to the outside where his agility and elusiveness really come into play.

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Ke’Shawn Vaughn – Vanderbilt – 5’10 214 – RD 3 – D


Ke’Shawn Vaughn is D’s choice in the later rounds if we somehow don’t address the position earlier. He’s got a fair amount of carries under his belt with 572, playing his first 2 years at Illinois and then transferring to Vanderbilt for 2 more seasons. Vaughn really flourished at Vandy with 2 consecutive 1000 yard seasons and in his Senior season he also added 28 receptions and an additional 270 yards receiving. Vaughn is a traditional downhill runner that doesn’t offer much in the way of juke or elusiveness, he just runs over people and would be a good late round value.

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OC/OG

Cesar Ruiz – Michigan – 6’3 307 – #26 or 39 – D, Mike

Cesar Ruiz would almost certainly be a day 1 starter for us in 2020. He’s played both center and guard and while we have Ted Karras on a 1YR contract, it’s a good bet that Ruiz is our center sooner than later. If Karras proves to be better early on, Ruiz can play for us at G, or at the very least provide very strong competition to either Deiter or the newly acquired Ereck Flowers. I want competition all the way down the line and Ruiz will push a few players who will try to stave him off. This makes everyone better, and lord knows we need everyone better on that OL.

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S

Kyle Dugger – Lenoir-Rhyne – 6’1 217 – #39 or 56 – Mike

I’m expecting the Dolphins to wait to get a safety until at least RD2 and possibly later. I think Kyle Dugger fits the type of player we’ll be looking for. Like Eric Rowe, he’s a very explosive athlete who runs well, jumps well and has the size to play at the LOS as well as play in coverage. Dugger is also a good return man, so that’s additional value that he brings to the table. I’m figuring McKinney and Delpit are possible first rounders and like I mentioned, I think we’ll be using those picks elsewhere, so I like Dugger for us. We do currently have Eric Rowe, Adrian Colbert, Clay Fejedelem and Steven Parker so we’re not desperate for a S, so that’s another reason why I don’t see us going 1st RD. Dugger is a good find in late RD 2 or RD 3.

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Jeremy Chinn – Southern Illinois – 6’3 221 – RD 3 – D

Chinn is D’s guy, although I honestly went back and forth between the two of them so for the most part we’re in agreement. Just to clarify, we’re not looking to take both of these players, it’s just an either/or situation. Chinn is a big safety prospect and just as fast and explosive as Dugger. I think Chinn may go earlier than Dugger so we may have a couple of more shots at Dugger, but time will tell. His size and demeanor will allow him to play near the LOS and he can cover well too. Both of these prospects have just average instincts and rely somewhat on their physical prowess. They both need to pay attention in film sessions and learn their trades to be more impactful on the NFL level.

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J.R. Reed – Georgia – 6’1 202 – RD 5 – D

Reed is almost the antithesis of the 2 other safeties listed, Chinn and Dugger. He’s not as big or as athletic but he comes complete with the instincts and football IQ. His father was WR Jake Reed and he’s also the nephew of defensive back Dale Carter so the bloodlines are strong in this one. Reed was a 3 year starter at Georgia missing his Freshman campaign with an injury out of High School. He covers bigger slot receivers and tight ends equally as well. He does however lack the explosiveness and acceleration to cover deep or smaller quicker receivers. For us he would be a mid to late round option if we decide to go in other directions earlier in the draft.

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DL

Marlon Davidson – Auburn – 6’3 303 – RD 3 – D


Davidson is a DT/DE hybrid prospect. He’s played both DT and DE. He had a very strong Senior season playing mostly DE and registered 6.5 sacks. Very strong at setting the edge in the run game and has the versatility to easily move inside. 4 year starter who improved incrementally each season. D thinks Davidson could be a better version of Godchaux

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Nick Coe – Auburn – 6’5 280 – RD 4 – D

Coe is a DE/DT (3-4) prospect who was a state wrestling champion at 285 pounds. In 2018 Coe achieved 7 sacks, mostly from the “buck” position. I think Coe can easily handle more weight to move to the inside but now looks more like a 5 tech player. D feels that Coe could be a much better player with more playing time and the right coaching.

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In addition to the players above, D has this to say . . .

As for OL, I’ll just save time by saying I want as many of the UGA OL as I can get. Thomas, who was mentioned by Mike, Isaiah Wilson, who has great technique and pretty good feet as well, Solomon Kindley, who is a plug and play on the left or right side, even Ben Cleveland who was not a primary starter for the Dawgs, is a quality backup with potential to start one day. If we walk away with 2 of that OL, we are going to be a lot better at those positions. 


A few positions I don’t really feel we need to add more to this year, but I might pick up a later draft pick is CB, LB, TE and WR. As I said before I could see us adding WR in day 1 or 2, but only if we hit a value pickup. I don’t think we push to get a specific guy. Still its good to add talent when you can so here are some day 3 guys I like at those positions:


Shyheim Carter, Alabama, CB. He’s a good slot corner, and has some time at Safety as well, he might be our next McCain and probably fits the defense we are trying to run.


Devin Duvernay, Texas, WR. He would give us a RB in the slot kind of receiver, and he’s built kind of like a bowling ball back, I think he would give us a nice dynamic for our offense and he could handle some of the return duties to take some punishment off of Grant. 

Many thanks to D for all his help and research and mostly superior first hand knowledge of all of these players. I can’t give D enough credit here. After each player listed you will see either D, Mike or both. This just indicates that those are our picks and many of them were solely researched or in there because of D and those would obviously be D’s picks. The way we tried to assemble this article was D let me handle the early stuff because of better familiarity for me and he dug deep into the picks after the 1st and 2nd RD.

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779 Responses to 2020 NFL Draft – Miami Dolphins on the clock

  1. D's avatar D says:

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  2. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rock – Actually it was FIRST QB taken in each draft, there was nothing really about early in the draft. For some reason that first QB selected has been doomed for like the last 15 years or so.

  3. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    April 21, 2020 at 1:32 pm

    Rock – Serious question – You don’t think Love at #18 is an equal risk to Tua #5?
    Reply

    Mike, I have to say I don’t know if the risk is the same, but I do believe that the guys picked at the top of the round historically are NOT the better QB’s the next contract cycle.

    I potentially “solved” our Oline issues. Love has a lot of upside. He has all the physical tools. He May be coached up.

    I am jut prejudiced against Tua so I look for EVERY option not to draft him.

  4. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I don’t see josh Rosen as a bad quarterback, I see josh Rosen as a quarterback that has been on bad teams. If you put him on a good team with a great running game I’m not sure he wouldn’t be very successful? I have no idea because we haven’t seen it yet but I will give him the benefit of the doubt at this point.

  5. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rob – Rosen looked pretty good at times for us, I know he has a strong accurate arm but there far too many instances where he looked like a deer in the headlights. He should be further ahead at this point. I remember a couple of drives where he made some nice throws, maybe even stepped up in the pocket to avoid pressure, but on the whole, he doesn’t look up to snuff man. Not just me talking, but the head coach too.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      For me it’s too hard to evaluate him on last year’s team.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Overall, i dont think he is a bad QB, id put him on par with Tanny given some of the pluses and minuses. Hell id put him on par with Herbert, all pluses and minuses considered. The problem with Rosen is mental makeup, and i already know you dont see it that way, and i get your reasons why, but something just seems off to me, he doesnt have that spark like he loves this shit, he seems like he is just weathering the storm. I dunno if its because he has had a pretty shitty first two years or what, but i dont see a guy who isnpires others. Just watch tapes of the interviews with he and Fits, watcht he tape of when he wa out there and when fitz was. The demeanor of the guy on the field is night and day different.

  6. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I still laugh at the hate goggles.

  7. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The eye test

  8. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    So I started using Instacart to have groceries delivered

    And I ordered a lot of deli meats for Sandwiches
    And one thing I ordered was sliced corned beef was looked nice in the photo – like Katz deli style

    But I guess they didn’t have it so they subbed in canned corn beef

    And first of all I could not figure out how to pen the can without a YouTube tutorial
    2nd – it’s basically cat food

    Gross

  9. D's avatar D says:

    ocalarob says:
    April 21, 2020 at 2:12 pm

    Tammy was very inaccurate with his deep throats, he could never hit mike Wallace.
    —————————————————–
    So who’s this Tammy? Does she make house calls? Ske can leave Mike Wallace out of this, one penis per porno.

  10. D's avatar D says:

    Piggy, Uber Eats is doing grocery deliveries too.

  11. D's avatar D says:

    LMAO i know we have had some good friggin auto corrects on here, but that one is going to have first place for a long fucking time.

  12. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy – There are definitely some “no substitution” settings on Instacart, I think you better use them

  13. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    It’s so gross

    It doesn’t just not look like meat now
    It doesn’t even look like it was ever

    • D's avatar D says:

      lol is it spreadable? like bits and pieces of corned beef? Like a loaf meat version of corned beef?

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        It’s like cat food …I didn’t just mean that to be a smart ass
        Try to spread cat food on bread and let me know if you thinks it’s spreadable

      • D's avatar D says:

        LMAO. Sorry bro. I was gonna suggest crackers but you probably should just toss it.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      I like corn beef hash. Best served with scrambled eggs. That was my staple 3a.m. Dinner food after a long night out drinking

  14. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    ORob:
    Watching porn and posting on here at same time is dangerous to your health

  15. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    This is what it looks like

  16. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Getting some kind of CoronaVirus thunder hail storm right now. Crazy!!

    • D's avatar D says:

      is the hail couging trying to spread the virus as it plummets to the earth? If so that is crazy and scary and could explain the disproportionate number up there. Our weather doesn’t try to do that. Although i just did have a week here two different lines of tornadoes went through just to the north of me.The one on Easter made national headlines.

  17. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Goodall is broadcasting the draft from his basement. Fans who use the hashtag # Boothecomish and tweet their booing videos to Bud Light will generate up to 1/2 million dollars in donations for the Covid-19 Draft-a-thon.

    LOL That is clever. As we ALL know that he is booed every draft. LOL

  18. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    This talking to the microphone method sucks

  19. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I have an online keyboard however it takes too damn long to type

  20. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    You guys are all QB options crazy, but still think we might go no QB in this draft. Least as far as first round. Think that just as possible as the top 3 and Love. Think Grier and Flores might prefer to build one bad ass team.

  21. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I wander if there will be a college season next year, it mae effect next year’s NFL draft considerably.

    • rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

      Yea, I think they would give the players an option to stay in school without losing a year or the option of entering the draft. Teams would have to go off 2019 film, along with the combine and pro days. Just makes it a bigger crapshoot than usual.

  22. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I’ll catch you guys later, I just punted the remote!

  23. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    For the Tua haters, you know who you are . . .

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2020/mock-drafts/rhett-lewis/381851

  24. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    How crazy is it that oil prices dropped BELOW ZERO per barrel in futures trading yesterday? Less than Free???? Crazy.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      In effect, sellers paying buyers to get rid of product so sellers can continue to manufacture. It’s nuts.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Everyone knows oil will sell for more in the future…… but you buy it and what are you gonna do? Everything that can hold it is filled. Gonna put it in milk jugs?

  25. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    If we pass on Tua most likely due to medicals and Herbert because they don’t like him I have no problem with waiting to take Love. I’m not stuck on any QB, I just think if Tua clears medically he’s our pick. As far as the pick itself at #5 I think Simmons is a nice player and I’d be OK with that, I’d be fine with Derrick Brown or an OT like Andrew Thomas too.

  26. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Gronk and a 7th to TB, for a 4th.

  27. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LMAO @ New Age! That’s funny bro

  28. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I’ve heard a bunch of people say things like “Player A, isn’t worth the #5 pick but I would be ok with him at 18 or 26. I don’t get the logic of this. If the guy turns out a good / great player, especially at the QB position do you think anyone would really care?

    If Miami took Rogers at #2 instead of Ronnie Brown would any of you have an issue with that?

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      There’s different perspectives Rock. If you like Love enough to take him at #18 why not take him at #5 so you know you get him? He could easily be gone by then. Unless you think they’re just kinda playing it by ear and “Ooh, look, Love is still there, think we should take him?” I think they better have more conviction than that in choosing our next QB. You can do that kind of thing later in the draft, but not in RD 1

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Nah we were good with Frerotte (thanks again Saban)

      In two years with final roster call Saban passed on drafting Rogers year 1 and signing Brees as a FA year two…

  29. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I’m stuck on Tua and I really feel he’s our pick. He’s not my favorite QB but he fits what we need. To get the guy we supposedly wanted 4 picks later feels like another Tunsil win. Unless Flores sucks next year, we will never have a better opportunity to get a top rated QB so easily.

  30. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Other than the medical, I don’t see anyone questioning Tua’s arm strength and talents. He’s also a highly motivated guy who loves football and works hard at it. I can’t see us passing on him if we feel the medical reports are positive. Wouldn’t that be ironic that tank for Tua for the #1 pick ended up with us landing him at #5 anyway?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      How ironic would it be if he was there at #5 and we took Herbert instead? Grier and Flores never said we were tanking for Tua….. and actually proved we weren’t at least tanking.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        No Grier and Flores never were. My point was we won too many games to get the #1 that was projected for a year and we still land him at #5.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      vurp

  31. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    If we take Love at 18 we can get a great D player at 5 or OL, if that’s how you want to go, so it’s not about Love it’s about the players you missed out on.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      The question I ask is why are you taking Love at #18? Do you think he’s your guy? If you do, why wait to see if he’s still around at #18, why not take him at #5?

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        In other words, if it’s about getting great players, keep going! Why settle for Love when there’s still another great player at #18?

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        You’re reading too much into this. Why take any player in any round? You have a board, you draft your players according to it. Its retarded to take a player at 5, when you expect him to be there for your next pick.

        Put another way, you have an idea for 2 players you want in the 1st, why would you take the guy you expect to be off the board 2nd at 5, when you could take him at 18 and get the other at 5?

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      No one impacts a game more than a QB. So, no one is a bigger miss than missing out on QB. QBs aren’t equal and Love isn’t equal to Tua. Heck, he probably shouldn’t even be a first round pick. Love had one good year and two bad. Not he’s the epitome of one year wonder. He’s not a turd but I’d flush him from my first round.

  32. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  33. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    A lot of draft pundits feel the top 4 tackles could all be drafted by #11. Lot of teams looking for tackles and even TB at #14 could be looking to trade up to get one to protect Brady.

  34. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Steve – It’s not retarded what I’m saying. With your QB, you go get him. If we only had the #18 pick it could be different if we didn’t have the ammo to trade up. If Love is the QB we want then I doubt we wait till 18 and hope he’s still there, we’d probably trade up from #18 and take him earlier. The same rules don’t apply with QB’s as they do with other positions.

  35. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Gronk’s back….with Brady lol! Awesome!

  36. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Great now we have to deal with 24/7 Brady and Gronk in Tampa and what will the Pats do next. Sigh…

  37. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Fucking fuckity fuck fuck. I so hate Brady and Gronk so much. Fucking but buddies I hope they get injured together

  38. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Why don’t the Pats just trade Edelman to TB too. Get the white ghey gang back together

  39. D's avatar D says:

    I think that settles the whole did Belichick kinda have a mutiny on his hands. Apparently Gronk was tired of playing, if playing meant dealing with Belichick.

  40. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Fucking pets get another 4th rd pick for a player that isn’t even in the league. God I hate them lol.

  41. D's avatar D says:

    D says:
    April 21, 2020 at 5:14 pm

    Yes it sucks, but yes they are in the NFC, not our problem.

  42. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    It’s happening in Tampa

  43. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

  44. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    You heard it on ESPN first, Gronk coming out…

  45. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    April 21, 2020 at 4:48 pm

    Steve – It’s not retarded what I’m saying. With your QB, you go get him.

    Mike,
    That was kind of my point earlier, about why not just take him with your first pick, but the answer to my own question is you don’t know for sure if a guy you have conviction in is really going to be THE guy.

    Kind of like what Steve said, So, you got to play the numbers. You don’t take Brady in the 1st round. Even if you know he is going to be Brady you don’t.

    Because then you would also know that you can get Brian Urlacher with your first pick, Chad Clifton in the 2nd round to protect Brady’s blindside, Laveranues Coles in the 3rd to catch from him, Dante Hall in the 4th to catch from him, and Adalius Thomas in the 5th and then you would take him in the 6th.

  46. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The anticipation will soon be over in a couple of days. Then let the bitching begin. LOL

  47. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    People – did we decide on a time for tomorrows Mock Draft? 8PM or 9PM? I’d like to hear from the Left Coast so we can set the time please . . . .

  48. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    rgs, I was joking more about prospects that some don’t like going in before they have panned out or failed.

  49. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    She’s a Tua fan!

  50. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    So we end up with a monumental amount of draft capital and this virus comes along changing typical operations. Anyone else think they’ll be a brown-out when we’re on the clock? LOL

  51. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    I don’t know why he’s dropped? But I like him in the 5th or 6th!

  52. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  53. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 21, 2020 at 7:41 pm

    So we end up with a monumental amount of draft capital and this virus comes along changing typical operations. Anyone else think they’ll be a brown-out when we’re on the clock? LOL
    Reply

    I don’t know about that, but there definitely will be a commercial when the pick is in.
    😉

  54. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Tried to trade up for Thomas! But no takers!

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 5: Joe Burrow, QB, LSU (A+)
    Round 1 Pick 18: Josh Jones, OT, Houston (B+)
    Round 1 Pick 26: Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia (B-)
    Round 2 Pick 7: Lloyd Cushenberry III, C/OG, LSU (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 24: Antoine Winfield Jr., FS/SS, Minnesota (A)
    Round 3 Pick 6: J.K. Dobbins, RB, Ohio St. (A+)

  55. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    Mike E, The west coast is shut down like NY so start when you want.

    Oh and good job to you and D on the write up. 👍

  56. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I don’t think this year we’ll be the commercial team with no coverage for our pick. We’re a big story this year with the QBs. There may be a commercial but we’ll be talked about a lot.

  57. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I’ve been watching a lot of Tua video. He’s Steve Young. Similar size, both extremely mobile with creative running ability – with a knack for timing on passes with impressive zip hitting receivers in stride. The film doesn’t lie. I underrated him. Most pundits still think he’s the best player in the draft even as they know about the medical.

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      Before the injury he was the consensus #1
      so if no medical reasons apply he’s still #1

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      He reminds me a lot of Young as well…maybe bc he’s a lefty

      Sometimes he also reminds me of Drew Brees

      I kind of think of him as a combo of those two players
      And if he’s the best of those two – that’s amazing

      I agree with both you and WY

      The only reason he’s not going 1 is bc if the injury issues

      Those are big issues And need to be balanced

      But let’s not talk about him like he’s not amazing in the field
      He is

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Both mobile lefties, not sure I really see many others. Young ran bull style, but with speed, Tua is more fragile.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Young also had a cannon, Tua not so much. He’s Russell Wilson.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Tua makes a lot of Steve Young throws all over the field. He also does it off of scrambling. Young got banged up a lot playing the way he did. He got torn apart in Tampa. The problem with Tua is maybe he’s too fearless as well. Both guys play to make plays and win games while sacrificing their bodies. But if Tua rebounds from his injuries and becomes an elite NFL QB in time and we’re looking for a new one 3-5 years it’s fucking groundhogs day all over again.

        We’re in a position to take that chance and still have plenty of draft picks the next 2 years. I think he’s our target whatever we have to do to make that happen. He may even sit for the year or at least most of it.

  58. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    If you base arm strength on mph Rosen was 59, 57 the top this year was Eason 59, 59. Herbert 55

  59. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Undoubtedly Tua would have been #1 overall but for the injury

  60. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I hope Cincy takes Tua

    • Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

      Tua’s mom and dad won’t let him go there. With Tua you are also drafting the family. Don’t get me wrong I like Tua, he is a rare talent and a good person off the field as well. We would be lucky to have him.

  61. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Take Tua with our first pick and take Eason in round 2 or 3 as insurance

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Do you think we’ll have to move up?

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        No. I am not a fan of move up. I like the top 3 QBs. Burrow, Tua and Herbert are all legit prospects. One of them will be there at 5

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I was asking if Tua is the guy we want? Forget the rest.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      You want to keep 4 QBs next year..lol

      Poor Eason, being reduced to insurance

      Eason has a shot to have a good career in the team that drafts him doesn’t mind waiting a few years

      I wouldn’t rush him into it

  62. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Steve, no MPH is not a good stat for arm strength. I’m talking game arm strength.

  63. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    This makes me SMH every year. Yes, arm strength is important, but it’s not required….and, it can actually be a detriment if a guy can’t make the touch throws because he throws so damn hard. You have to look at a guy play. You can go watch tons of plays of Tua making pretty much any throw you need him to make. You can see him do it….so how can you ask if he can? I don’t get the concern. I think there are legitimate things to be concerned about for Tua. He’s not a perfect QB. . His arm isn’t what I’d call great, but it’s plenty good enough. If healthy, I think he has the tools to be really good…but who the hell knows? He has to go prove it just like anybody else. Everything we’ve heard sure makes him sound like he’d be a great leader of a young developing team that really needs a young QB to come in and grab it by the horns.
    ****
    I’m not really concerned about him taking hits in the NFL. You can’t breath on QBs anymore. They get injured running around….or guys dragging them down….which may be illegal now too? So, just how mobile can Tua be with his injuries? Defenses are just too good these days….you gotta be able to scramble. Is he still quick enough to evade NFL players? Can he bounce around in the pocket and throw from different platforms since he’s a little shorter and can’t see over guys?
    ***
    Just like Marino has said: He’s most proud about being a guy who played and wasn’t on the sidelines watching. His teammates knew he’d be there. Tua has to prove that in the NFL. If he can’t, his talent and potential don’t mean shit.

  64. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Omg I finally logged in on my phone again 😎
    Just got a new one

  65. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Our trade up at #3 with DET is based on the traditional trade value chart. It’s our #5 and 39. If that’s for your franchise QB that is not a big deal. DET can still get a corner which is what they need and the value is there with Okudah or Henderson.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      If that is all it took I would do it. However I think it would take more than that

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yes, I agree. We’d probably have to add a 5th and a 2021 pick just because. It’s an easy trade for us though.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        It depends on who wants it more, and Det seems pretty eager, so I doubt it takes more than 39, if it does someone else was bidding.

  66. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Ken, if we keep 3 QBs are you saying keep Rudock over Rosen? What’s the problem with Fitz who knows Gailey’s system and let the two young QBs compete in 2020? Isn’t that what so many have called for over the years? It’s the perfect time to do it.

  67. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Trade with Detroit at #3:
    #5, 39, 153 and a 4th or 5th next year.

    If this is the QB you believe in, it’s an easy trade.

    Let’s not act like #5 and 39 is chopped liver!

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      *QB Tua Tagovailoa, Alabama at #3.

      Next Trade with Carolina at #7:
      #18, 56, 227 and a 3rd next year.

      *RT Jedrick Wills, Alabama at #7.

      It’s the future.

      • rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

        If we get Tua at #5, I’m all for trading up for Wills. I’m thinking SF or Jacksonville may be trade partners too. I think Wirfs and Thomas will come off the board first, both in the top 10. At #13 hopefully Wills is there, but I think either Wills or Becton will still be on the board at that point.

  68. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Not to make a big deal out of this but, don’t you think it’s kind of cool that Tua actually wants to play here for our team? I’m no behavioral scientist, but when they asked Tua about Miami, he seemed liked it was a done deal already and he loved it. I don’t know if he’s going to be the pick, but that’s special that he desires to be here. I do think he will be the pick unless the medicals don’t check out.

  69. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Ken – That’s why I asked earlier if anyone thinks that we might trade a player. I do think there’s potential if we take a QB early that we trade Rosen

  70. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    just an idea for thought……. there is 2 teams that have (2) 2nd round picks but no 1st rounder. so they may want into round one. Chicago has pick #43 and #50 and Indy has pick #34 and #44. there may be an opportunity trade DOWN from #26 and recoup (2) 2nds and a possible additional round pick………………….. just thinking out loud 🙂

    • TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

      I see that the LA rams fit that bill as well. they have pick #52 and #57 with no 1st rounder

      LA gave their 1st, #20 to Jacksonville.
      Chicago gave theirs #19 to Las Vegas.
      and Indy gave theirs #13 to San Fran.

  71. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  72. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 5: Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama (A+)
    Round 1 Pick 18: Josh Jones, OT, Houston (B+)
    Round 1 Pick 26: Isaiah Wilson, OT, Georgia (B-)
    Round 2 Pick 7: Lloyd Cushenberry III, C/OG, LSU (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 24: Antoine Winfield Jr., FS/SS, Minnesota (A)
    Round 3 Pick 6: J.K. Dobbins, RB, Ohio St. (A+)
    Round 4 Pick 35 (COMP): Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 7: Nick Coe, DE/OLB, Auburn (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 8: Shane Lemieux, OG, Oregon (A+)
    Round 5 Pick 27: Khalil Davis, DT, Nebraska (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 6: Joshua Kelley, RB, UCLA (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 13: Kendrick Rogers, WR, Texas A&M (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 32: Dante Olson, OLB, Montana (B+)
    Round 7 Pick 37 (COMP): Levonta Taylor, CB/FS, Florida St. (A+)

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I guess we are goi g to work on OL…lol

      I actualky don’t like what I’ve seen of breeland

      • D's avatar D says:

        None of the TE’s are really that good this year. They are all rotational guys, or special package type players.

      • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

        If we had a QB I’d draft 14 OL!

        It’s gotten beyond ridiculous!

      • D's avatar D says:

        I like Pickney because he has a balanced skill set so more versatile. I think they might get more out of him as a receiver, just because that Vandy off really didnt have an offense that could utilize much of anyone in the receiving department.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I’d take this draft. Jones has moved to my top OT get ahead of Thomas and Becton, although I wouldn’t complain about getting them.

      I think Breeland would be a great pick in the 4th.

      Dobbins and Winfield aren’t my favorites, but they’ll do. Love the Wilson pick, he’s possibly the one pick in the draft I’d reach for.

      • D's avatar D says:

        I still have Thomas as my number 1, mostly because he is ahead of Jones as far as development, but those are my 1 and 2 as well.

      • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

        If you prefer you can swap
        Grant Delpit for Lloyd Cushenberry III
        and
        Matt Hennessy for Antoine Winfield Jr.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Thomas is the better pass blocker, but not by much, Jones is much better run blocker.

      • D's avatar D says:

        I admit i prioritize pass blocking over run blocking because there is more skill needed in it, and Thomas is hands down the best pass pro guy in the draft. I didn’t scrutinize his run blocking much, but i didn’t see a lot of glaring deficiencies there either.

  73. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • D's avatar D says:

      I wonder if Tillman was close with him. There are a lot of former players who have been in wars and i dont think i have ever seen Schefter do that.

      • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

        Tillman wasn’t a former player. He turned down a huge contract to join the Army instead.

  74. rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

    I put Jones at #5 or #6 in the OT rankings. High upside, but still needs a lot of work on technique. Like Tua, he may not be ready the first year, possibly being a backup or playing RT at first. But with his high upside and OT being pushed up the boards because teams are desperate, he will still be drafted easily in the 1st round.

  75. D's avatar D says:

    I think Carolina, SF are probably our best bets for trade partners. If Simmons falls though, Carolina isnt going to trade with us, in fact they might be a trade up candidate for him with us at 5 and we drop back to 7. If we get jumped by Chargers for Tua, id probably make that trade as well. We could probably still land Herbert at 7. Id definately trade up from 18 to get a top OT, so down with Carolina, up with SF in the case that we lose out on Tua. If not then take Tua at 5 see if we can trade up for Wills.

  76. D's avatar D says:

    With allt he options on the table this should be a pretty exciting draft.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      That’s what I’m afraid of. With all these picks we should be able to stay where we are, 1st 3 rds, and get qb, 2 ots, rb, s and a dt/c.

      So why do we need to trade up and lose picks? There’s so much similar talent in our areas of need, that the difference will be how you use/coach them.

  77. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Don’t forget oinkeroos

    Mock draft tonight at 8pm
    Be there or squeal like the jerk you are

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      I’ll be there, I’ll be the one picking the best players and not forcing 20 olinemen on us. So basically my vote won’t matter.

  78. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      It’s odd bc they probably want an OT if they stay at 8

      But they might also make a good trade up option to nab an OT

      • D's avatar D says:

        I think 18 is much more viable for trade up right now. It shouldnt take 26 to get back up to 8 either, definitely a second but not 26. Depending on the way the draft falls 8 might be good enough for Thomas, and 26 should be good enough for Wilson.

  79. D's avatar D says:

    Think of it this way, if we rock the draft we can all cheer and dance in the streets, albeit 6 ft away from others. If not we get a chance to bitch for a year or more about the results, someone wins in all of this no matter lol.

  80. D's avatar D says:

    Looks like the Govenor of Missouri is suing China for losses incurred due to the pandemic. Dont know if it will go anywhere but good for him.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      The world should sue China.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      The whole world should take steps to hold China culpable and force them to take steps to stop these outbreaks. Whether that is in the form of economic sanctions, tariffs or some other method, IDK, but something needs to change.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      What’s he going to do, get a money judgment against China and seek to enforce it against a country our country is billions of dollars in debt to?

      These are theatrics meant to rile people up
      This is throwing away the taxpayers money
      It’s just campaigning by this politician

  81. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    TWAs the night before draft muss and all through the blog if they take to a tongue of Alloa I will shit a log

  82. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    To a tongue a labia

  83. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    To a tug my nutsack

  84. D's avatar D says:

    If we trade up will you shit something better like a Pony?

  85. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I think Isaiah Simmons will be there at 5, if they have any plans on passing him up it would only be to trade back in my humble opinion.

  86. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Simmons will be a very keep pc to this defense, he is big enough in fast enough to cover these tight ends.

  87. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Most dB’s are too small to cover these tide ends by Travis kelce, most of the linebackers are too slow to cover these titans, Simmons will work perfect in this area.

  88. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    If Simmons is there, there maybe a slough of teams willing to part with value to move up to get him, so either way at 5 we made me in a great position.

  89. rich0322's avatar rich0322 says:

    Honestly, as long as we get a safety, NT, and OL help, I’ll be happy.

  90. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    The 1 thing I hope we get out of this draft, is another 1st round or next year. This way we will have another 3 1st rounds, and 2 second round pics next year , keep these early picks coming!

  91. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Q, Which came first the Chicken or the Egg??

  92. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rob – We can get a guy like Jeremy Chinn later in the draft who’s just as big and almost as fast as Simmons without spending the #5 pick. 6’3 221 runs a 4.45

  93. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Tua be (a Dolphin) or not Tua be. That is the question (that will be answered tomorrow)!

    Whoo hoo!!!

  94. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “Ian Rapoport said that Brady was shopping himself with Gronk during free agency, essentially telling teams that they were a package deal.” NBA hits the NFL.

  95. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Stanger, the most recent theory is that many dinosaurs were feathered bird like creatures and not lizards. So yeah chickens and other birds evolved from them. If you ever watch bird behaviors, some of them are brutal hunters.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Yep — just doing my 5th grade version of it….. but that big meteor hit in the Yucatan and wiped out most life. Us mammals (who were a snack) were already underground creatures, survived and then took over. What dinosaurs that survived turned into birds… and many of them snacks for us.

  96. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Just say NO to drafting a hybrid S/LB in the top 5.

  97. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Anyone else watching the Brady/Gronk network?

  98. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

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