RD1 Pick#5 – QB Tua Tagovailoa – Alabama
RD1 Pick#18 – OT Austin Jackson – USC
RD1 Pick#30 – DB Noah Igbinoghene – Auburn
RD#2 Pick#39 – OL Robert Hunt – Louisiana-Laffayette
RD#2 Pick#56 – DT Raekwon Davis – Alabama
RD#3 Pick#70 – S Brandon Jones – Texas
RD#4 Pick#111 – OL Solomon Kindley – Georgia
RD#5 Pick#154 – DL Jason Strowbridge – North Carolina
RD#5 Pick#164 – EDGE – Curtis Weaver – Boise State
RD#6 Pick#185 – LS Blake Ferguson – LSU
RD#7 Pick#246 – WR/QB Malcolm Perry – Navy
That’s some haul for one draft, 11 players in all, which is actually less than the 14 picks we came in with. So how, after having 14 picks, do we end up choosing only 11, and one of them is a long snapper??? OK, I’m going to let that one slide because I think they did a very good job addressing easily the biggest shortcoming of this team, our offensive line. We traded back once and up a couple of times and I believe we really upgraded the trenches significantly in this draft.
On the offensive line, Austin Jackson, the OT from USC is a young OT prospect who needs more playing time and lots of quality instruction to groom him into a premier LT, or RT, depending on where they choose to play him. At the moment, I think with the addition of the next OL we drafted with our first 2nd RD pick, Robert Hunt, who may be groomed to play RT, or may also be groomed to play RG with incumbent RT Jesse Davis remaining at RT. All that will be worked out in time. In RD 4 we added yet another OL, Solomon Kindley who figures to be an OG. We all hoped they would address the OL, and address it they did! All of a sudden, the depth looks pretty good, we have Julie’n Davenport and Austin Jackson at LT, Ereck Flowers and Solomon Kindley at LG. Ted Karras will be the starting C and I believe Michael Deiter will be potentially be worked at C as well. Either Robert Hunt or Jesse Davis will be the RG and the other one will be the RT. OG Shaq Calhoun, OG Danny Isidora and C Keaton Sutherland round out the depth. The O-line most certainly looks more promising.
We spent the #5 on a QB, so obviously that position was heavily upgraded. I don’t stress this lightly at all, there is no reason to rush Tua on the field, especially considering the current situation with COVID-19, and the fact that all football operations have been pushed back to the point where they will most likely end up being abbreviated. We have a very capable leader in Ryan Fitzpatrick for 2020 and we have a young QB coming off a devastating injury. In my mind I’d have Tua sit the entire year and heal up but have him compete in practice with Josh Rosen to help improve his play for next season or possibly a very late season appearance depending upon our playoff potential at that point. If we’re in contention, no monkey business, but if we’re out and they want to see a healthy Tua play, I’m fine with that if he’s 100%. It will be interesting to see if we carry 3 QB’s, I would almost guarantee we will, and Josh Rosen should be one of them.
Despite our numerous additions in free agency on the DL and LB with Kyle Van Noy, Shaq Lawson, Emmanuel Ogbah and Elandon Roberts, we remained vigilant in continuing to upgrade there in the draft. We started with DT Raekwon Davis from Alabama and added DE/OLB Curtis Weaver from Boise State. Curtis Weaver in the 5th RD was a WOW! pick. In 3 years at Boise St. Weaver amassed 34 sacks (13.5 last season) as well as an astounding (47.5) stops behind the line of scrimmage (19.5 TFL) in 2019. In RD 5 we added yet another DT/DE prospect in Jason Strowbridge from North Carolina who had an impressive week at the Senior Bowl. We came into free agency with a major weakness, and now after both free agency and the draft, we have so much more talent and potential. So many players we acquired are multiple fits, meaning they can play more than one position. It’s like DT/DE or DE/OLB etc etc. I don’t think one player will be utilized at only one spot, everyone moves around. Versatility is important in our scheme, and now we can employ it.
When we acquired DB Byron Jones, immediately you think what a CB tandem with both he and Xavien Howard. Flores loves his defense and in RD1 after a slight trade back, we selected at pick #30 DB Noah Igbinoghene. I feel like the designation DB should be used with all our guys because I think nearly all of them will be playing multiple roles. Igbinoghene looks to be a corner who will probably thrive in the slot or nickel corner spot, but he may also see work at safety like his veteran counterpart Bobby McCain. Igbinoghene is a very competitive player, very confident player and you need that at DB. Some people may look at the safety we drafted in RD 3, Brandon Jones from Texas as the replacement for Minkah Fitzpatrick, but I think Igbinoghene is as much a part of that if not more than Jones. Jones is a guy that likes to lay the wood so he may be a S/LB tweener, despite his somewhat smaller stature (5’11 200), which ironically was a part of Minkah Fitzpatrick’s repertoire.
Now what remains is to start working, see these guys on the field and hopefully we have enough time to evaluate these guys before the season starts to see how they fit best. I can’t wait to see Blake Ferguson snapping out there, I mean who can wait for that? Did we really draft a LS in RD 6? Was Tabor Pepper a problem last year? Confounding to say the least, but really, not sure why they treated that pick like a disposable pick. Did Grier and Flores both go to the bathroom simultaneously during that pick and did someone else accidentally make that pick? OK, I’m kidding but it was odd.
In RD5 we made a big move to upgrade our offense as I was probably ready to scream (OK, I WAS screaming already) where the F is our running back!!!!! Considering the fact that I was ready to pull the trigger on a RB late in RD 1 or in RD2, I was losing it that we hadn’t addressed that position yet in RD 5. The word came in that we traded our 1st of 3 5th RD picks (#151) for SF 49ers RB Matt Breida. That’s a great pick, or trade for a pick. Breida is the perfect change of pace for bruising RB Jordan Howard. He’s a speedy RB who can catch, but has had issues staying on the field. That’s the only caveat with him is he seems to get minor injuries that keep him out, missing 5 games in 3 seasons, which doesn’t seem like a lot, but considering that he was used sparingly his entire career, it’s a concern. Breida has eclipsed 150 carries once, in 2018, his most productive season. He has averaged over 5 yards a carry, quite the contrast from the pathetic 2.1YPC we’re used to. Breida had 814 yards in ’18, along with 3 rushing TD’s and 2 receiving TD’s on 27 receptions and an additional 261 yards receiving. He can help us on 3rd down as well as being a nice change of pace.
When we start making cuts after training camp (if there’s a training camp), it will be significantly more difficult to do so, as our depth after free agency and the draft is so much better. The edict was there, improve the trenches, and on that note, they will have at the very least tried their best to accomplish that. We needed a ray of hope that we have our franchise QB, and if we handle it correctly and don’t rush Tua onto the field in 2020, in 2021 we’ll have that. Ryan Fitzpatrick was a great leader, he has our guys believing and it’s no mistake that despite the quality of receivers in this draft that we passed to build the trenches. I didn’t really think we need a receiver anyway, I think we have a nice combo of young WR’s (Preston Williams, Isaiah Ford, DeVante Parker and Malcolm Perry) as well as some more veteran WR’s like Allen Hurns and Albert Wilson. It’s strange to me that so many Dolphins fans skip right past Allen Hurns, I think he may be the most overlooked player on the team, possibly with the exception of Charles Harris. (Who?). We picked up Navy QB Malcolm Perry with our final pick. Some here have suggested he can be our version of Julian Edelman. He has the wiggle and agility but he doesn’t have that insane short burst speed, which is the attribute that enables Edelman to get that quick separation from defenders, but he will probably be given the opportunity. For reference, Edelman’s short shuttle (20YD) was 3.92, while Perry’s is 4.31. That’s a HUGE difference, He may also be a gadget player because he can throw the ball as well.
I feel very pleased after this draft, and free agency. I don’t think as a whole, we could have done much better really. Sure, all of us would have liked to get this guy or that guy, we all have our favorites that went to other teams, but again, taking free agency and the draft together as steps I and steps II, we really crushed it!
GO DOLPHINS!!
#staythecourse!
Finsmob Unleashed 
D says:
April 29, 2020 at 5:14 pm
If you listen to the far right…..
Reply
But there is the rub D. It’s NOT just the FAR right anymore. The FAKE RIGHT ( ex-Democrat trump) panders to the FAR right with his policies and blows his dog whistle as often as he can during his red hat rallies.
I was an “illegal immigrant” last year for 2 months. My green-card expired. Per the rules you cannot apply more than 6 months before the expiration date. I applied 5 months and 28 days before it expired. My application was held up for 7 months in “review” because of a trump mandate by decree. (not aimed at me, but the whole system)
No one could tell me what to do. I called every department and they all said, sit tight we will let you know,
So did you?
yeah, it finally came two months after it expired. so “Technically” I was not allowed to work in the country during that time.
but I don’t hold a work card in Canada either so I am “not allowed” to work there either.
I have been in the US all of my 50 years except 2 months. My older siblings are all US citizens as are my younger ones. I am not because I was delivered by mid-wife in my grandmothers house in the country and my mom just brought me back when she came back. (She was here on a visa and them married an american and got her permanent resident card.
There is no official record of my birth.
Obama can help you get a birth certificate (son ducks)
Son,
Sad but true!
I can say it that way to you because it’s me too
I struggle with today’s packaging of stuff. Back in my day stuff opened real easy.
Rock bottom is writing an entire email in the subject line
Lol
D, Young Stanger,Mrs. YS, etc.; Mrs. OD sends her regards. She is somewhat limited in what she can do. But otherwise she’getting by. Thank you!
Friday I’ll have an MRI on my knee. NOT WORRIED AT ALL!!
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SO, “D”, you are in your 40’s??
Such a young one you are!! I’ve got hats & shirts older than you!
HINT: My Florida License plate is FAU69.
LOL!
I used that on a bar tender last year. I have shirts at home older than you! How old are you again? Oh, shit, I DO have t-shirts older than you! LOL
Should package that up with a, damn i needs some new shirts, could i try yours on…..
I am very glad you guys are doing well lol, all jokes aside on that one.
OD — you still ain’t that old either. My Dad used to talk about collecting scrap metal for war drives. And did you ever pay ten cents to see a double feature and a Pepsi? Man how many times I heard that when was about something I wanted to buy?
I got a sweet new cellular plan – a plan for seniors.
God, i just dont know if it balances out with the balls dragging the floor and the have to pee at every bathroom you pass, but at least its something.
I’m told (looks around) that they don’t drag on the floor, but they will dip in the toilet….
Bet thats a shocker on a winter night, half asleep, sploosh, well not half asleep anymore.
The Flying Pig says:
April 29, 2020 at 5:29 pm
Rock bottom….
Hey! Don’t you talk about my bottom! It is real and it is SPECTACULAR
😉
son,
I am the oldest person at my office, and I get told to “get used to it” often. Well, screw them! At least I still know how to write cursive and where to buy a stamp! Lol
I haven’t snail mailed a letter so long i probably dont remember how to do it. In fact i cant even remember the last time i did lol.
son of a son of a shula says:
April 29, 2020 at 5:33 pm
Obama can help you get a birth certificate (son ducks)
LOL
Son, I got that covered.
I PURCHASED ONE from the Canadian government 5 years ago. No shit It took me a bunch of time and effort and $487.00 CA but I finally got it.
So like 25 real people money?
Ha! the conversion rate was backward for the like the first time in history when I had to convert from US$ to CA$. Usually you could by more CA$ with US$ but that week the Canadian Dollar was worth more. I also had to pay my bank extra to pay in CA$.
Yeah Weaver seems to me to be a more DE/DE player, but i think in packages where we are running three pass rushers, he would be out wide. I think he is going ot be a more pass rush specialist unless he improves on a few things. Im thinking pretty mcuh the same as Ogbah and Lawson, with a little less ability to play on run downs.
I hope the staff (I forget what department it is called) get their hands on him and get him to tighten up. (not bulk up, bulk down with tighter muscle) the scuttlebutt is that he is “soft bodied”
Well yeah but when he does that he will gain weight, and him at 275 i think is better than what he is right now at 265. I think he will have a better get off too if he swings it that way.
That’s cool Rock.
I bet you could petition the court to get American citizenship. Probably take a long time but it’s easy to see that you’ve spent your entire life living here.
Or they will decided that he has gotten away with it too long and send him packing, damn commie illegals!
That would suck. Yeah don’t mess with it just leave we’ll enough alone.
Marvin Allen is why you should trust this draft
D, I renovate hotels for a living. I had a client ask me one time if when we did the renovation if we could install THICKER toilet seats. I was baffled. What did he mean and why? He opened a browser on his Ipad and showed me some toilet seats that are thicker than “standard” commercial seats. I looked at them and said sure, if you want but they cost twice as much as the ones the plumbing engineer specified, why?
He told me that because if the hotel’s location they get an inordinate amount of elderly men and he gets too many complaints about the toilets being too shallow and they get their balls wet.
Shit you not. LOL
Damn! That’s not something I look forward to 😦
LMAO, thats good stuff. Like a once in a lifetime occurrence.
ROCKPHIN and SON: U suckers PAYING for a Canadian birth certificate????
I GOT MINE for freeeeeeee the real way!!!
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My BIG pieces of paper (AKA Documents:
1) Birth certificate from Canada (NOT MARS, as someone suggested)!
2) U.S. citizenship certificate.
3) College diploma (FAU69).
4) DD214 from Army.
5) Honorable Discharge with Nixon’s autograph (NOT George Washington’s).
LOL I just had to pay for it because it was 45 years after the fact and no proof I was really born there.
Damn was George not available, that woulda been some super cool shit!
Just sayin . . . Fast times in the 20YD shuttle is a good indication of short burst quickness. Go check out most players and you’ll see that the 40 time is usually actually less than a half second more than the 20 yard shuttle. Weaver’s 7.00 3 cone also shows good bend and agility. Not sure why Steve is all up his ass, but I’d bet his 40 time would be at Wakes or more than likely quicker. Again, none of this means that he’ll be better or worse than Wake, but it does go against Steve’s claim that he’s slow, from watching some highlight reels.
could just be irrational. I don’t like Tua after all…
Now my dislike of Rosen is COMPLETELY rational.
More than likely Rocko! He was actually 7th (4.27 20 YD shuttle) between all LB’s, EDGE, and DL. That’s impressive!
Son, the biggest reason I don’t have my US citizenship was that paperwork issue. I have spent 10’s of thousands on my immigration status. Until 5 years ago when I finally bought Canadian citizenship I couldn’t even get through the naturalization process here. Box #1 birth certificate? No? Well get the fuck out of here! (paraphrasing)
Sounds like that scene from the movie with Tom Hanks when he was a citizen of a country which was overthrown and didn’t exist. I think it was called the Terminal
LOL That was a good movie. He starts doing construction work on the airport on the “off shift” un paid
now it’s just a time and effort thing. I am tired of trying and my vote won’t count anyway. Plus, I have forgotten most of my high-school civics and probably couldn’t pass the knowledge exam. LOL How many seats are there in the house again?
too many.
One of my buddies from work is Vietnamese, actually fled Vietnam during the war, 100% citizen, etc. His wife (who came over maybe 20 years ago) however, has constantly put off getting her citizenship because she has not embraced the English language and is afraid to go for citizen ship because she is embarrassed by her inability to use the language and feels it makes her seem dumb when she isn’t. When Trump got elected, she about shit her pants, and was really nervous because she though she was going to get sent back home lol. She heard bits and pieces about his immigration policy and was seriously convinced she was going home and without the kids.
I should say he, and his family. They were brought in as refugees because his father was being hunted because he was an officer int he South Vietnamese Army. He was just a little kid.
Fake news!!
Mike E. says:
April 29, 2020 at 6:03 pm
Just sayin . . . Fast times in the 20YD shuttle is a good indication of short burst quickness. Go check out most players and you’ll see that the 40 time is usually actually less than a half second more than the 20 yard shuttle. Weaver’s 7.00 3 cone also shows good bend and agility. Not sure why Steve is all up his ass, but I’d bet his 40 time would be at Wakes or more than likely quicker. Again, none of this means that he’ll be better or worse than Wake, but it does go against Steve’s claim that he’s slow, from watching some highlight reels.
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Does and doesn’t, it does show that bit shows more of your ability to make lateral direction changes and stay fluid, when they talk about fluid hips, thats one of the tests that show that ability. Of course there is some burst acceleration captured in that time but its also more of a quick twitch thing id say cones and shuttle are more importasnt for Db’s and broadjump more important for DE’s/pass rushers.
Also for comparison sake, Wake was 236 lbs at the combine while Weaver was 265, so take that into consideration as well, he’s carrying 29 more pounds than Wake.
I find it amusing that we are having this 5 hour long discussion because someone did a photo shop job that weaver retweeted of him wearing #91. We will argue about anything on here. LOL
No doubt Rock! I’m so guilty of that
Did you guys hear Justin Amash has announced that he may run for president on the Libertarian ticket? While I am all for opening up the political environment to more than A or B, as the way things are now a third party candidate has ZERO chance of winning.
In order to add a third forth (etc) party you would have to get 50 states to change THEIR voting laws. At a minimum you would need to get CA, TX, NY, FL, PA, IL, OH, NC, GA, VA & AZ to push through amendments to their state constitutions. (if those states did so it would give a 3rd party a statistical chance in the electoral college without the other 39 states having a say. (IF the third party swept all those states, which is extremely unlikely) Also, some of those states split their votes and some are all or none vote states so it get’s more complicated but you guys get what I mean,
Having all 50 states alter their charters is nearly impossible. Mostly because you are asking Dems and GOPS to give up some of their power to do so.
I think as long as Pelosi and the Dems get their much wanted mail in voting they may be willing to allow it. They are really pushing hard to do that.
BTW – Forgive my ignorance, I have no idea who Justin Amash is!
He is a house member and represents the 3rd seat for Mich. He was a Republican but left the party because of Trump and is now an Independent. He was one of the few repubs that voted for the impeachment.
Pelosi and the Dems have no say. This all has to happen at the state house level. The majority of state houses are made up of GOP / DNC so getting them to vote to allow a third or forth party into the mix and share power will be impossible. They have spent too much time and money gerrymandering to allow it.
He’s a congressman who switched from republican to independent
The sole republican who voted to impeach trump in the house
An outspoken critic of trump
And now talking about running for President as a libertarian
Rock – I used that instrument that young whippersnapper D mentioned, the interwebs or something or other, and I found something on him. All he’ll do is pull some votes from each party, but won’t win. It would be great if a 3rd party actually could have a legit shot. I think Ross Perot came the closest if I recall correctly
SPEAKING of balls in the water, when I still lived in Canada a friend of my Dad’s invited him out for a few hours of ice fishing. Eventually, this guy had to use an ice version of a toilet. My Dad was laughing so hard he was crying when he described how this guy separated his balls from the layer of ice that had built up in the ice house toilet!!!!
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To this day I’ve never accepted an invitation to go ice fishing.
LOL OD – I wouldn’t either
Mike, Perot got like 15% of the popular vote. (maybe more, I’m not going to look it up) but he had ZERO percent chance of EVER winning. He wasn’t eligible to get electoral college votes in many of the states
Yeah, I couldn’t give you numbers, I just remember him, at least at the time getting more votes than any other 3rd party candidate. Pretty sure it holds to this day
he was one of the very few to be able to get on the ballot in all 50 states but still statistically impossible for him to win.
Strom Thurmond received 2.4% of the popular vote and 39 electoral votes running as a Dixiecrat in 1948.
Perot received 18.9% of the popular vote, but did not win any electoral vote in 1992 and 8.9% in 1996.
Only Nebraska and Maine split their electoral votes. 48 states are winner take all.
Tnanks. I “almost” looked it up.
Why is there a “rapid pre-heat” button on my oven? Is there a situation where I might want to wait longer for my oven to pre-heat?
LOL
So the high school Class of 69 turns 69 this year.
that ‘sucks’
I see what you did there. LOL
Auto Correct for “Balanced Budget” in 1990’s:
Cold War ended … multiple billions of dollars no longer ‘going out’ … neither party was responsible for the a balanced budget. Soviets went broke in Afghanistan. Politicians surf “economic waves” that started before they took office. 🙂
Mike E. says:
April 29, 2020 at 7:09 pm
Rock – I used that instrument that young whippersnapper D mentioned, the interwebs or something or other, and I found something on him. All he’ll do is pull some votes from each party, but won’t win. It would be great if a 3rd party actually could have a legit shot. I think Ross Perot came the closest if I recall correctly
I voted for Perot.
So did I. My first ever vote…
Weaver is a nice prospect….especially in the 6th. Plus, if he does show some promise, we have time to let him develop because we have a lot of edge rush guys on the roster. He kinda looks like a guy who just knows how to get to the QB….not hyping just saying. Definitely some very poor blocking he was going against. But, he looked pretty good against Oregon too. He’s gonna have to get a little more stout.
If they can mold him in the weight room they can lean him down while increasing his explosiveness. (white muscle vs red muscle vs fat)
Agreed.
Oops, 5th
Odd being the Class of 69.
Our Big Senior Party was on 6/9/69.
It was the day Brian Jones left the Rolling Stones due to drugs.
We all went out in the country to Givhan’s Ferry on the Edisto River.
6/9/69 music
Top #10 songs in the USA
The Beatles – Get Back
Henry Mancini, His Orchestra And Chorus – Love Theme From Romeo & Juliet
Elvis Presley – In The Ghetto
Creedence Clearwater Revival – Bad Moon Rising
Mercy – Love (Can Make You Happy)
The Friends Of Distinction – Grazing In The Grass
The Edwin Hawkins Singers – Oh Happy Day
Marvin Gaye – Too Busy Thinking About My Baby
The Guess Who – These Eyes
Three Dog Night – One
6/9/69 music
Top #5 songs in the UK
The Beatles – The Ballad Of John And Yoko
Tommy Roe – Dizzy
The Edwin Hawkins Singers – Oh Happy Day
Booker T & The MGs – Time Is Tight
Beatles With Billy Preston – Get Back
6/9/69 music
Top #10 R&B songs
Marvin Gaye – Too Busy Thinking About My Baby
Edwin Hawkins – Oh Happy Day
The Temptations – Don’t Let The Joneses Get You Down
Johnnie Taylor – Testify (I Wonna)
The Emotions – So I Can Love You
The Friends Of Distinction – Grazing In The Grass
Dyke And The Blazers – We Got More Soul
Sonny Charles And The Checkmates, Ltd. – Black Pearl
The Isley Brothers – I Turned You On
The Dells – I Can Sing A Rainbow/Love Is Blue
Naples
Im not sure why the list of songs is posted AND I was 6 yrs old … but Beatles abd Marvin Gaye (?) I could retire to an island with just their music.
One analysis I read on Weaver seemed to describe him best. It said that he’s got a way of slithering through a crack. When I watched his tape against FSU he was playing OLB, his pursuit was really bad, and missed a few tackles. On one play there was an end around and the WR, not particularly fast, went by him like he had cement on his shoes.
Then I watched highlights that showed him going around some really bad RTs, it was live speed, but looked like slow motion, then there were a couple of plays where he’s behind the QB and he slithers by his man and gets a sack, that was impressive.
Bottom line is he’s going to need a better jump in the NFL, if he wants to get a sack. NFL QBs don’t hold the ball as long as some of those college guys in his highlight reel.
If his talent doesn’t translate to the NFL a 5th for him was worth taking a chance on maybe hitting on a gem. He might always be more of a role player than starter if he can produce some pass rush.
We traded up to get him with a late 5th and a 7th. CW3
I have no problem with the trade up, but he’s a project.
I remember in many mocks had him going round 1 or 2 for most of the year w/ PFF having a stiffy for him. I wasn’t too big on him going into the draft at all, but won’t complain about using a 5+7 to get him. Someone had mentioned in another site that there was some offseason health issue that played a roll w/ him having the body shape of Mr. Potato Head this year. I don’t know if I buy it.
Steve Conner/Associated Press
Curtis Weaver NFL Draft 2020: Scouting Report for Miami Dolphins’ Pick
MATT MILLER
APRIL 25, 2020
EDGE11 Curtis Weaver, Boise State
STRENGTHS
—Highly productive pass-rusher with NFL size and technique and experience standing up to rush off the edge.
—Smart, aware rusher who won’t be fooled by mind games the offense plays post-snap.
—Very good read-and-react when identifying keys from the offensive line; productive against the run and pass.
—Big hitter who isn’t afraid of contact and will close on the quarterback with power.
—Smart and poised; will read the quarterback and doesn’t lose contain.
WEAKNESSES
—Looked to struggle with high snap counts and wasn’t in game shape for the entire season after battling an illness over the summer.
—Doesn’t have ideal height (6’2″) or length (32 ⅜” arms) teams look for from a defensive end.
—Zero impact against the run.
—Doesn’t flash much high-end athleticism.
—Beat up on below-average offensive tackle play.
OVERALL
When his technique is matched by proficient offensive tackles, will Weaver be able to beat them for pass-rush production? That’s the biggest question when evaluating his tape. You love his production and how well he sets up his pass-rush moves, but Weaver’s lack of athleticism is a major concern when projecting his NFL potential.
GRADE: 74
PRO COMPARISON: Carl Lawson/Noah Spence
Those bottom 3 weaknesses are what I said after watching his FSU tape.
Trade ups like that don’t matter to me. That’s gets overrated on this blog. LOL
dbolt, what did you think of our draft overall?
The reports I’ve seen have Weaver as a situational pass rusher. I’m fine with that.
Mike E. says:
April 29, 2020 at 6:51 pm
Also for comparison sake, Wake was 236 lbs at the combine while Weaver was 265, so take that into consideration as well, he’s carrying 29 more pounds than Wake.
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I mentioned that before the page turn, i also mentioned that Wake was on an elite level of getoff, so comparison is bad anyways. I dont think he cant be effective, i do though kind of agree he isnt a guy who has the same pass rush ability as Wake did, or probably even Ogbah or Lawson. He generally wins the pass rush through technique and a big back of more bullrush and slipping blocks type moves. Bottom line is he was effective at what he did and with some extra training he probably will be effective as well.
I also agree with the above that Steve just said, and thats how i see at least his early use in our defense, a more situational pass rusher, or a guy who at least plays on more passing downs, because he doesnt seem to set the edge well and i think he would be a little bit of a liability in run defense. Again, depends on how he develops as to what his ultimate role is, but starting out, until they can work on some things, thats kinda where i see him
I like the pick of Weaver, at that point in the draft he was one of the highest rated players left on the board and thats the round you start scooping up talent that for whatever reason dropped. It was a good pick regardless of what he turns out to be.
naplesfan2010 says:
April 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm
6/9/69 music
Top #10 R&B songs
Marvin Gaye – Too Busy Thinking About My Baby
Edwin Hawkins – Oh Happy Day
The Temptations – Don’t Let The Joneses Get You Down
Johnnie Taylor – Testify (I Wonna)
The Emotions – So I Can Love You
The Friends Of Distinction – Grazing In The Grass
Dyke And The Blazers – We Got More Soul
Sonny Charles And The Checkmates, Ltd. – Black Pearl
The Isley Brothers – I Turned You On
The Dells – I Can Sing A Rainbow/Love Is Blue
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I dont really think this qualifies as R&B because its at least Soul, but more so Blues, but “Ain’t no Sunshine” — Bill Withers is a song that everytime i hear it, i really feel the emotions of that song.
Also im pretty fond of “Whats Going On” by MG
Steve – At this point, if Weaver is a situational pass rusher, that’s fine for a 5th RD pick. I bet this guy by next season is in much better shape and my guess would be he drop between 10-15 lbs, and seems much quicker.
id get him to add some core muscles and bulk up some so he could play inside some like as a 3-4 DE. Same results, he could just engage the OL and shed them. He has good skills for working through blocks, id maximize that. You dont need pass rushers to be outside getoff track stars to get to the QB, lots of other ways to do it. Look at Cam Jordan of the Saints, he doesn’t have a great get off, its not shabby btu he is probably one of the pass rushers i respect the most, he destroys RT’s, or JJ Watt, same deal these guys dont have extremely crazy get off, but they can beat you 100 different ways.
Cam Jordan is 6’4 and has 35″ arms. Weaver is 6’2 and has 32 3/8″ arms. I understand what you’re saying, but it’s clear Weaver was not in his best shape, I think adding weight to this guy would be counterproductive. Get him on a diet and strengthen his core while increasing some muscle mass and get him to about 250. That’s what I’d like to see. Not saying you’re wrong, just what I’d prefer
I guess my thing is that when you add muscle to replace fat you actually gain weight as muscle weighs more than fat, so i think we are talking about the same thing, i just want even more muscle and him to be a more inside guy who uses his already pretty well established technique to give us that pass rush from the inside not out wide. Just dont think that will ever be his strength.
Ha! I knew you were going to say that! I want him to cut weight first, drop about 20-25 lbs and then add the muscle instead of fat. That should get him in the 250-255 range, but it would be a leaner, more muscular body. Zierlein’s evaluation said he has a very soft body. Gotta CHANGE THAT!
Did I mention I love this kid’s game😉
What Weaver has you can’t teach. That uncanny way of getting past defenders. He did have a sack late against FSU.
He’s a WIP for now, we’ll see what kind of heart/motor he has.
A lot of people in the media seem to be intrigued by Perry. He’s not the fastest guy, 4.63 40, but he’s extremely quick and shifty. McCaffrey without the power is what I see.
I see a slot receiver who has the moves to take it to the house when he gets the ball with some open field. They can use him like a Taysom Hill kinda guy.
I expect to see Perry lined up all over the place, QB, RB, Slot, WR…in his highlights the announcer says, when watching pee wee football, there’s always that one kid that’s better than everyone else, that’s Perry. I agree, he’s very clean and polished, sharp cuts.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2020-nfl-draft-afc-east-reset-division-odds-team-grades-best-picks-2021-mock-draft-and-more/
Thats funny because Prisco right after the draft had us getting an F, and people were reaming him for it,.
I know!
The Dolphins were going so crazy with their picks, they even took a long snapper in the sixth round!
WTF? LOL
So I just heard on the news that one of the big drug companies is moving forward with production of a vaccine for Covid and hope to have 100 million doses by the end of the year. The vaccine they are developing has NOT been tested yet but is in trials now on humans. When asked “what if it doesn’t work or has adverse reactions” they said, well we will just scrap the project and start on a new one.
I started thinking. How does one TEST a vaccine in humans? do they give a bunch of test subjects the vaccine and then purposely infect them with Covid? How many people do you have to do that to before you are sure it won’t have an adverse effect on ANYONE? I mean I could have a reaction to some drugs while you do not. How do they know?
It has got to cost 100’s of millions to make 100 Million doses! (forget about the research, etc, just the little bottle they put it in will cost 100’s of millions.
They will just scrap the project?!!!
My guess is the production cost is not all that much compared to the development and testing costs and getting in first would be huge for them. Also thinking animal testing has shown the thing works. The human testing on a vaccine must be more about side-effects….. what else could it be? Not like you will infect people.
You get volunteers from the sick community i guess
They sign a nice little for that says if we kill you or give you permanat damages, you cant sue us.
https://www.thephinsider.com/2020/4/30/21242640/nfl-networks-charley-casserly-believes-miami-got-much-better
Charlie thinks we did a good job
Yeah but he is 140 years old and really doesnt remember what team he is talking about much less their picks from a few days ago.
I always thought he was pretty good. You must have him confused with someone else😉😉
I know i hate that fucking hair piece he has.
When I was in school in Miami, when you disrespected someone, they would say why you dis me cous. Friends on the west coast would also use dis.
In a Herald article the headline is Saban dishes on Tua. Is this the same thing, and if so why does the media always use dishes? Sounds retarded.
“dis” is short for disrespect … ‘dishes’ means telling secrets, which could be a way of humble-brag in the guise of a ‘juicy secret’ (which isn’t necessarily disrespectful)
I see Bengals released Dalton. Does he go to Pats?
Directly, without passing Go.
Think it would make them the division favorites.
The Beard is better than the Red Rocket.
It was a gonna be rough chance for him to make it, our DL room is kinda crowded now. I still thought he might make it over Moss or maybe even Harris.
Not so sure Moss and Harris will make it either.
I guess they saw enough body of work last year and decided to move on.
He was our sack leader, but was bad a lot. Too hot and cold, couldn’t be counted on. These types of guys seem to play for stats instead of to win.
We had a CB that was like that, when Surtain was drafted.
Buckley
I bought a slow cooker crackpot to keep me busy during quarantine
Anyone want to guess what I’m cooking?
PICTURES OF TRUMP??
Something less rotten
Ropa Viejos?
Nope but that’s coming
Carnieta’s
Crack?
WONDERING WHEN THE GREAT THINKERS IN THE DOLPHINS’ FRONT OFFICE will announce the team’s official policies regarding tickets, seating, (6-foot social distancing?), wearing masks to the game (ever try to drink a beer thru a mask?), etc.???
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NOW KEEP IN MIND the Dolphins already have been paid in advance for maybe 35,000-45,000+ seasons tix, plus, perhaps, a few single tix to individual ticket buyers for individual games. Then there are those like Young Stanger trying to buy group tix for group get togethers. –I wonder HOW they’ll handle this??
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Finally, there’s the issue of playing games in front of empty stadiums!!! How do those of us WHO PAID 7-8 MONTHS IN ADVANCE FOR TIX TO THESE GAMES??? Bet yer sweet ass Ross will NOT offer full, prompt, refunds to those who paid thousands of dollars for tickets they may never see!!
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Three out of the last four seasons the Dolphins sent out tickets so late that I MISSED GAMES I had already paid to see!!!! –NO REFUNDS OR CREDITS were given to me or, as far as I know, anyone else who was so treated.
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TIME FOR ROSS to step up and make good on his promise to clean up the mess in his ticket office!!! Frankly, I’ll believe it when I see it!!
If i were them id look to offer some sort of NFL game pass type of thing specific for each team so people can watch their team from the safety of their homes, specifically for those who are going to try to behave themselves and stay at home as long as needed. Since there is no physical limit to the size of everywhere, they could offer this at a rate of a discounted Sunday ticket, which id pay almost as much as i do for the whole Sunday ticket just to get all the Phins games, its what i buy the shit for anyways.
Oh and with some opting for watching at home you likely could have your “distancing” at the stadium, to some extent.
from the looks of the stands the last 5 years, the stadium has been ‘social distancing’ all along. 😉
The Flying Pig says:
April 30, 2020 at 5:32 pm
I bought a slow cooker crackpot to keep me busy during quarantine
Anyone want to guess what I’m cooking?
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Pork roast?
ACTUALLY, D, Piggy is going to slow cook some kosher ribs.
“What are ‘Kosher ribs’ you may ask??”
Those are ribs from pigs that have already been circumsized!
Piggy – Pulled pork?
WELL GOTTA GO GET the wife’s dinner of extra large shrimp and brown rice with some kind of special sauce. Y’all take care of those Kosher Pork issues!
Yes it’s a pork roast
It’s actually Cuban sour orange mojo style
Don’t tell the other pigs
If Tua is healthy and stays relatively healthy, everyone gets banged up playing this game, do you think we found our franchise QB?
Yes
Cool! I’m amazed at how quiet it is here. Before the draft the speculation was… what will we do? We must land a potential franchise QB and this, that and the other thing. Maybe everyone is comfortably numb. 😉
The Browns have drafted 24 WRs since 1999, but Rashard Higgins is the first one to be resigned by the team.
Since 2007, the Jets have drafted 69 players outside the 1st round. None have made the pro bowl with Jets or any other team. The average NFL team has drafted 6 pro bowlers in the 2nd round or later over that span.
Thank you Mr. Tannenbaum.
This season will be the first time since division realignment that a QB from the 2000 draft class doesn’t win the AFC East.
Who was the other?
Brady and Pennington
Van Noy was voted to pats all decade team with Flores as his coach.
Naples,
I think there are meds that will help with this whole “talking to yourself thing”. 🙂
Box 6969
Naples FL
Send by fedex.
Jalen hurts can squat 585
Too bad he can’t throw a football accurately. So glad we didn’t draft him
IN the “Just in case Tua gets hurt department:”
Our new, upgraded, O-Line will give more time for Ryan Fitzpatrick to pick out his receivers than he had LAST YEAR. It will also lead to fewer big hits than Fitzy took per play LAST YEAR!
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And, for our running backs, our new, upgraded, O-Line means that our backs may actually have a second or two to pick out the best running lane available, as opposed to getting hit about a half second after being handed the ball as was too often the case last year. The fact that Miami has both a better O-Line AND better running backs means our shitty yards per run average should go up SUBSTANTIALLY THIS SEASON!!
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FINALLY, MIAMI’S talented group of receivers will have MORE TIME TO GET OPEN than they had last season because our upgraded O-Line will give our quarterbacks and receivers that EXTRA SECOND to get open and/or to run a deep fly pattern. BOMBS AWAY!!!
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ONE LAST POINT. The Miami players that might benefit MOST FROM OUR UPGRADED O-LINE may be our defensive unit. Imagine our offense grinding out 10 to 15 play drives, relying on the ground game, and eating up the clock while our defense rests on the sidelines. Last season, this seldom happened. But THIS SEASON, Miami might actually WIN the time of possession war more often than not. And our better rested defense will have more “gas in the tank” when the game gets to the crucial fourth quarter.
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I KNOW MANY OF YOU grew weary with my constant cry to UPGRADE OUR O-LINE!! — Month after month, season after season, I ripped Miami’s FO as Tannehill got beat-up and abused year after year. Well NOW YOU CAN REST (barring an unforeseen run of injuries on the O-Line). We NOW have the makings of an O-Line we can be proud of. ROSS FINALLY “GETS IT!”
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I KNOW it’s way too early for this kind of boasting. But, thanks to a greatly improved O-Line, I am predicting that MIAMI WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS THIS SEASON!!!
SHOW ME!
OD, the OL was addressed since 08 constantly right up until now. History doesn’t lie. The problem was it never worked out as a mix. It just didn’t!!! Look at the picks we used on OL the last 13 years.
Reset and let Flores and his staff implement Phase II. 🙂
I don’t understand why “some” talk shit about this guy………………….. SMMFH 🙂
TRUST THE PLAN BITCHES !
Highlights don’t prove anything. Show me the lowlights too, where he misses all those tackles on running plays.
His college tape is all over the place, but he did lose weight and switch positions, so he really just needs to workout and get his body ready for the NFL.
The talent in the MW isn’t the greatest, and these guys he’s going past aren’t close to NFL tackles.
TOTALLY DISAGREE,TIM; History doesn’t lie.
OUT 4 tonite.
Go look at who we drafted and signed during that time. So you disagree it didn’t work out or we never acquired OL?
I just went back in time and found this article
https://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2009/01/cameron-wake-i.html
Cam Wake trying to convince us he can play in the NFL….lol
The best part of the article is the very last line – some of you will appreciate it
Matt Roth is GOD
Matt Roth threw a grenade and killed 50 people. Then the grenade exploded.
Death once had a near-Matt Roth experience.
You shall not render Matt Roth obsolete!
Tim – Just quiet because now we just have to wait until the guys we picked start working. The speculation of “who” is now over. Now the speculation is “when”. It may be a while before we see or hear anything from these guys. We’ve kind of played around with where we think each guy will play and how they’ll be used, but beyond that, there’s really not much to say. I think when next week comes around, I’m going to struggle to come up with material for an article. I’m still very excited for our team and our potential though, I really am.
The problem is no one will ever be Matt Roth
Matt Roth doesn’t have to speculate. He knows precisely “when”.
And the when is always Matt Roth O’Clock
Lmao at the Matt Roth stuff!!!
Well Mike, Piggy started handing out Matt Roth shots. LOL
Matt Roth doesn’t dial the wrong number. You pick up the wrong phone.
Here’s an idea for your article Mike. Call it post draft, and put nothing in it, then as you read through the posts and find something interesting add that to the article. For example, someone posts a link to something interesting about one of our draftees, or someone likes/dislikes something about a draftee, or someone posts something about how a certain draftee may be used, put it in the article.
Charles Harris traded to the ATL. Even for a 7th great trade, but don’t know the comp.
It is for a 7th.
3.45M is his current cap hit, with 1.5M in dead money, since we traded him, Atl assumes the 1.9M in cash for current year I believe. Not sure what happens, if he doesn’t make the Falcons opening day roster, since the 1.9M is guaranteed.
If we had cut him we’d have been on the hook for the entire 3.45M. Not sure why ATL wants to give up a 7th and assume the 1.9.
Matt Roth is great and all, but he’s no Ole Alligator Gar.
When watching the draft this year I’d cringe every time they announced a Missouri player😉
Now we have 2 1sts, 2 2nds, 2 6ths and 2 7ths in 2021
The Matt Roth stuff never gets old. 😂
Wow, the tweet says Harris got traded for a 7th round pick. DAMN
Officially a bust? YEAH
The very definition
So we dropped or traded two DE this week. Taco is gone and Harris is gone. I wonder if they will pick up another or if they will roll with what they have now?
Roll
It was a kinda crowded room. Maybe they are going to let some of the UDFA guys try to get in at the bottom, im sure they show as much potential as the other two did.
I kinda expect it was pork roast because remember you were Cuban (part Cuban?) and Pork roast is at the core of a lot of those dishes, i love Cuban food. Apparently love Colombian food, i had it for the first time maybe a year ago and its amazing.
Try driving through Hialeah, the evening of Christmas Eve. The smell of pork us in the air. My uncle is Cuban, we’d do Christmas Eve at his parents house. Unbelievable taste.
Noche Buena is the best food night
Media Noche?
FULL CUBAN!
(Piggy puffs his chest out)
Lawson, Avery Moss, Emmanuel Ogbah, Tyshun Render (Who?), Jason Stowbridge, Curtis Weaver
Total of 6 guys. We will sign another or two IMO.
Only 4 will make it, and we have Van Noy that can play end, as do all of our DTs. Maybe we need bodies for camp, but not for the 53. I think we also have some UDFAs that play there too.
Yeah, but Weaver is so s – – – – l – – – – o – – – – w. 😛
Hug a root😉
Mojo pork was my second guess. Don’t need a crock pot for lechon asdada.
It’s really not necessary for a crock pot for a lot of the things you can cook in the crock pot – but it’s basically one pot to clean that doesn’t need a lot of supervision as you do other things
Lol
Not going to worry about the trade compensation for Harris. He was a cut candidate for sure, did absolutely nothing here. Whatever he does in ATL won’t phase me, it wasn’t happening here.
I wonder about the comp picks we would lose by dumping harris and charlton?
Taco did have 5 sacks in 11 games played.
I believe they would have had to keep them on the roster this year and let them walk next year as FA to get comps
Lol, we have 80M next year in cap space + whatever carry over space… so if we kept these guys and someone signed them in FA, we wouldn’t get anything, because we have to spend 88.8% of the cap or about 213M, meaning we have to sign FAs or add money to current contracts and that isn’t happening.
Without signing any FAs we wouldn’t get more than a 7th anyways.
If Dion Jordan wasn’t such a bust, Charles Harris would make a run as one of the worst in recent history
He might be top 5 all time for the Dolphins
It also highlights the edge position as being a risky area
It’s not just that we traded Harris
We also waived 🌮
Who was a first round pick for the cowboys (and they waived him too)
When you get past the early pass rushers, bc it’s such an important position, teams reach for guys
The other side of that coin is that pass rushers sometimes come from nowhere
Shaquille Barrett has 19.5 sacks last year and he was undrafted
Daniel Hunter a 3rd rounder had 14.5 sacks
Read that story about Cam Wake above, remember he was cut from the a giants after being in drafted
I think s outs struggle with evaluating edge guys
That’s one of the reasons I’m so excited about Weaver
Maybe he can be the real deal
Notably Weaver has below level athleticism but great hands, great techinique and football intelligence
Maybe he has athletic limitations
But the football smarts stuff can sometimes transfer more fluidly to the nfl
He might be able to have an immediate impact
I just have to stop myself from buying his jersey
Rockphin says:
May 1, 2020 at 9:55 am
Lawson, Avery Moss, Emmanuel Ogbah, Tyshun Render (Who?), Jason Stowbridge, Curtis Weaver
Total of 6 guys. We will sign another or two IMO.
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Tyshun Render is a UDFA we picked up this year.
And you forget some of the LB’s ovelap that position too.
Do we try to get compensation for Ballage?
We could probably get something for him but it wont be much.
We got a 7th for Wake, what do you expect to get from these scrubs?
We can probably get a we can probably get a ballage of chips for him
Im the opposite of you Piggy onthe Jordan/Harris thing. I think Jordan was a way bigger bust, number 3 overall is supposed to make it and is supposed to show something and he didnt. Harris was what? 22nd? that low in the first round is where you generally have the 1st that dont cut it. Taco and Harris were just picks from one another and both washed out. It happens at that point int he draft. Harris was actually ont he field for the most part of his career unlike DionFF
Yeah, but when on the field FF did an little something, but I agree, no comparison to #3 and #20 somethings.
Isn’t the number something like 50% of first round picks are busts?
Jordan is the bigger bust by far – we traded up Too
Matt Roth- the Ol’ Alligator Gar.. what is this, 2008?
In boxing or MMA you wouldn’t know by the tale of the tape, since they use that retarded reach measurement (guys with a big broad chest could have an average reach, but short arms).
That woulda been 2010 wouldnt it?
FIIK- memory is wonky, that far out.
I don’t think of Harris as a bust for some reason. Maybe it’s time or team has sucked the last few years IDK. He’s dead to me, and has been since the beginning of 2019. Also, him being a bust really hasn’t impacted the team. If you want to say, well if he was a superstar…I’m just referring to the average play you should expect from his draft position.
Not a true bust, just a real disappointment. Very bleh when he was supposed to be this exciting pass rusher with a sick spin move.
Just being from Missouri was enough for some here. Which is ironic, since it’s the show me state.
Sorta of funny how Harris going for a 7th is like a small blip on the radar. I’m thinking of him as a bust though. A 7th is like getting a “thank you card.” Means his worth could barely support his pretty low salary.
Or he is the last regime’s guy who doesnt mesh with the new staff’s philosophies or schemes.
He doesnt seem like the tough guy that they are kinda looking for.
D — remember seeing the tape of him after we drafted. Featured that spin move over and over when he got sacks, which is what they show. Was thinking….. “that gonna work against NFL players?” Apparently it did not.
Was checking out a FF article breaking down TEs. And look who was at #7 with some mighty fine words.
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Mike Gesicki, Miami Dolphins
Was fourth in air yards and third in end-zone looks among tight ends last season as a sophomore, when he also averaged 7.7 targets and scored five touchdowns over the final six weeks. Gesicki’s workout metrics are off the charts, and this is a thin Miami offense outside of DeVante Parker that added three linemen and a potential star at QB in the draft (and no receivers until Round 7).
Thin offense my ass. We were moving the ball up and down the field 2nd half of last year with no running backs -added 2 – no OL – added 5 – and no running game. Our top WR in William’s was out, and our #6 to start the year was a big contributor. Over 25 pts a game in final 9. That’s pretty good for a thin offense that have upgraded quite a bit.
I think the “thinnest” part of the offense was the O-line, and we invested heavily this offseason to fix that
I thought you were going to say I got your thinnest…right here😀
And we did that with a garbage backfield. We had the worst RB room in the league last year. Maybe the worst in the league in the last decade, lol.
Add a whole new oline, Breida and Howard to a quality WR corps of Parker, Williams, Wilson, Ford and Hurns, throw in Gesicki at TE, and I’d say we have the potential to be a pretty damn good.
lol, I went all Italian there-a at the end-a.
LOL!! I love when that happens!
LOL
We sit at about 23M under the cap, that’s with Taco and Harris out and Breida in.