RD1 Pick#5 – QB Tua Tagovailoa – Alabama
RD1 Pick#18 – OT Austin Jackson – USC
RD1 Pick#30 – DB Noah Igbinoghene – Auburn
RD#2 Pick#39 – OL Robert Hunt – Louisiana-Laffayette
RD#2 Pick#56 – DT Raekwon Davis – Alabama
RD#3 Pick#70 – S Brandon Jones – Texas
RD#4 Pick#111 – OL Solomon Kindley – Georgia
RD#5 Pick#154 – DL Jason Strowbridge – North Carolina
RD#5 Pick#164 – EDGE – Curtis Weaver – Boise State
RD#6 Pick#185 – LS Blake Ferguson – LSU
RD#7 Pick#246 – WR/QB Malcolm Perry – Navy
That’s some haul for one draft, 11 players in all, which is actually less than the 14 picks we came in with. So how, after having 14 picks, do we end up choosing only 11, and one of them is a long snapper??? OK, I’m going to let that one slide because I think they did a very good job addressing easily the biggest shortcoming of this team, our offensive line. We traded back once and up a couple of times and I believe we really upgraded the trenches significantly in this draft.
On the offensive line, Austin Jackson, the OT from USC is a young OT prospect who needs more playing time and lots of quality instruction to groom him into a premier LT, or RT, depending on where they choose to play him. At the moment, I think with the addition of the next OL we drafted with our first 2nd RD pick, Robert Hunt, who may be groomed to play RT, or may also be groomed to play RG with incumbent RT Jesse Davis remaining at RT. All that will be worked out in time. In RD 4 we added yet another OL, Solomon Kindley who figures to be an OG. We all hoped they would address the OL, and address it they did! All of a sudden, the depth looks pretty good, we have Julie’n Davenport and Austin Jackson at LT, Ereck Flowers and Solomon Kindley at LG. Ted Karras will be the starting C and I believe Michael Deiter will be potentially be worked at C as well. Either Robert Hunt or Jesse Davis will be the RG and the other one will be the RT. OG Shaq Calhoun, OG Danny Isidora and C Keaton Sutherland round out the depth. The O-line most certainly looks more promising.
We spent the #5 on a QB, so obviously that position was heavily upgraded. I don’t stress this lightly at all, there is no reason to rush Tua on the field, especially considering the current situation with COVID-19, and the fact that all football operations have been pushed back to the point where they will most likely end up being abbreviated. We have a very capable leader in Ryan Fitzpatrick for 2020 and we have a young QB coming off a devastating injury. In my mind I’d have Tua sit the entire year and heal up but have him compete in practice with Josh Rosen to help improve his play for next season or possibly a very late season appearance depending upon our playoff potential at that point. If we’re in contention, no monkey business, but if we’re out and they want to see a healthy Tua play, I’m fine with that if he’s 100%. It will be interesting to see if we carry 3 QB’s, I would almost guarantee we will, and Josh Rosen should be one of them.
Despite our numerous additions in free agency on the DL and LB with Kyle Van Noy, Shaq Lawson, Emmanuel Ogbah and Elandon Roberts, we remained vigilant in continuing to upgrade there in the draft. We started with DT Raekwon Davis from Alabama and added DE/OLB Curtis Weaver from Boise State. Curtis Weaver in the 5th RD was a WOW! pick. In 3 years at Boise St. Weaver amassed 34 sacks (13.5 last season) as well as an astounding (47.5) stops behind the line of scrimmage (19.5 TFL) in 2019. In RD 5 we added yet another DT/DE prospect in Jason Strowbridge from North Carolina who had an impressive week at the Senior Bowl. We came into free agency with a major weakness, and now after both free agency and the draft, we have so much more talent and potential. So many players we acquired are multiple fits, meaning they can play more than one position. It’s like DT/DE or DE/OLB etc etc. I don’t think one player will be utilized at only one spot, everyone moves around. Versatility is important in our scheme, and now we can employ it.
When we acquired DB Byron Jones, immediately you think what a CB tandem with both he and Xavien Howard. Flores loves his defense and in RD1 after a slight trade back, we selected at pick #30 DB Noah Igbinoghene. I feel like the designation DB should be used with all our guys because I think nearly all of them will be playing multiple roles. Igbinoghene looks to be a corner who will probably thrive in the slot or nickel corner spot, but he may also see work at safety like his veteran counterpart Bobby McCain. Igbinoghene is a very competitive player, very confident player and you need that at DB. Some people may look at the safety we drafted in RD 3, Brandon Jones from Texas as the replacement for Minkah Fitzpatrick, but I think Igbinoghene is as much a part of that if not more than Jones. Jones is a guy that likes to lay the wood so he may be a S/LB tweener, despite his somewhat smaller stature (5’11 200), which ironically was a part of Minkah Fitzpatrick’s repertoire.
Now what remains is to start working, see these guys on the field and hopefully we have enough time to evaluate these guys before the season starts to see how they fit best. I can’t wait to see Blake Ferguson snapping out there, I mean who can wait for that? Did we really draft a LS in RD 6? Was Tabor Pepper a problem last year? Confounding to say the least, but really, not sure why they treated that pick like a disposable pick. Did Grier and Flores both go to the bathroom simultaneously during that pick and did someone else accidentally make that pick? OK, I’m kidding but it was odd.
In RD5 we made a big move to upgrade our offense as I was probably ready to scream (OK, I WAS screaming already) where the F is our running back!!!!! Considering the fact that I was ready to pull the trigger on a RB late in RD 1 or in RD2, I was losing it that we hadn’t addressed that position yet in RD 5. The word came in that we traded our 1st of 3 5th RD picks (#151) for SF 49ers RB Matt Breida. That’s a great pick, or trade for a pick. Breida is the perfect change of pace for bruising RB Jordan Howard. He’s a speedy RB who can catch, but has had issues staying on the field. That’s the only caveat with him is he seems to get minor injuries that keep him out, missing 5 games in 3 seasons, which doesn’t seem like a lot, but considering that he was used sparingly his entire career, it’s a concern. Breida has eclipsed 150 carries once, in 2018, his most productive season. He has averaged over 5 yards a carry, quite the contrast from the pathetic 2.1YPC we’re used to. Breida had 814 yards in ’18, along with 3 rushing TD’s and 2 receiving TD’s on 27 receptions and an additional 261 yards receiving. He can help us on 3rd down as well as being a nice change of pace.
When we start making cuts after training camp (if there’s a training camp), it will be significantly more difficult to do so, as our depth after free agency and the draft is so much better. The edict was there, improve the trenches, and on that note, they will have at the very least tried their best to accomplish that. We needed a ray of hope that we have our franchise QB, and if we handle it correctly and don’t rush Tua onto the field in 2020, in 2021 we’ll have that. Ryan Fitzpatrick was a great leader, he has our guys believing and it’s no mistake that despite the quality of receivers in this draft that we passed to build the trenches. I didn’t really think we need a receiver anyway, I think we have a nice combo of young WR’s (Preston Williams, Isaiah Ford, DeVante Parker and Malcolm Perry) as well as some more veteran WR’s like Allen Hurns and Albert Wilson. It’s strange to me that so many Dolphins fans skip right past Allen Hurns, I think he may be the most overlooked player on the team, possibly with the exception of Charles Harris. (Who?). We picked up Navy QB Malcolm Perry with our final pick. Some here have suggested he can be our version of Julian Edelman. He has the wiggle and agility but he doesn’t have that insane short burst speed, which is the attribute that enables Edelman to get that quick separation from defenders, but he will probably be given the opportunity. For reference, Edelman’s short shuttle (20YD) was 3.92, while Perry’s is 4.31. That’s a HUGE difference, He may also be a gadget player because he can throw the ball as well.
I feel very pleased after this draft, and free agency. I don’t think as a whole, we could have done much better really. Sure, all of us would have liked to get this guy or that guy, we all have our favorites that went to other teams, but again, taking free agency and the draft together as steps I and steps II, we really crushed it!
GO DOLPHINS!!
#staythecourse!
Finsmob Unleashed 
SMH about NBA players not wanting to play without fans. Because we all know everything is all about them.
Yeah, because we all know how intelligent NBA players are….
I can’t believe someone traded for Harris. We save money on a guy that wasn’t making the team. Way to go FO.
$1,943,692 was his guaranteed salary. On us if we cut him. Not any more.
Matt Roth
That was a fun blast from the past, LOL.
We had so much fun with that, bitd…
I agree
When did we get the extra 7th in 2021? We didn’t have any until the Harris trade. We now have 10 picks in the 2021 draft.
1st Round
•Miami Dolphins pick
•From Houston Texans pick
2nd Round
•Miami Dolphins pick
•From Houston Texans pick
3rd round
•Miami Dolphins pick
4th round
•Miami Dolphins pick
5th round
•Miami Dolphins pick
6th round
•From Seattle Seahawks pick
•From Pittsburgh Steelers/Tampa Bay Buccaneers pick (TBD)
Now a 7th for Charles Harris.
We need to do something about those 3rd – 5th rounds
It’s going to be boring if we only have one pick in those rounds
Josh Rosen for a 3rd, 4rh and 5th in 2021?
I think a 3rd is probably “fair” value. The law of diminishing return and all. We traded a 2nd and 5th for him. We should be able to get a 3rd and 7th for him in return. (there is your other 7th round pick.)
Not surprised we traded Harris but surprised ATL traded for him. He was never productive. Wish him well but he seems to be lacking the talent at the NFL level.
As for comp picks for him and Taco, I doubt it and would not worry about it. Taco was cut by two teams and Harris has no production. What exactly would we be losing in FA where we would be rewarded compensation. Getting a 7th for Harris basically is the wishful thinking in getting a comp pick.
Yeah, I wonder if they tried trading him during the draft and there were no takers. Then, Atlanta calls, knowing we were wanting to unload him and offers a 2021 7th instead of letting him hit waiver wire.
I thought she was going to call me Boomer from her tone.
I said “That is the stupidest thing I’ve heard today. Talk to you tomorrow.
What is this world coming to?
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You should have ended with TTYTM
The simplest answer to the Comp pick question is;
IF YOU CUT HIM you will never be compensated. It is when their contract expires and they leave, then the calculations on value begin.
Yeah and it would require the team keeping two players they don’t feel fit what they’re doing. So it makes no sense to begin with. LOL
No more players from Misery. They suck. Harris was our version of the stej Gholston even though Vernon was the way bigger bust but they both were these super athletes that could “jump out of the gym” but they sucked on game day.
I’m glad he’s gone. That’s how you get better. You get rid of the guys who suck the most.
Incidentally, I think we might lead the league in Raekwon’s now
Does that include Rayquans, Ra’kwans, Raiquans, Ria’kwans and Rayqans?
Lol, I was going by spelling.
I just got off a conference call and I have to say; Society is coming to an end. When text vernacular makes it way into every day conversation it’s one thing. Some shit is just taking it to far though.
Would you say “LOL” to someone in conversation? (only to be ironic, maybe)
This women I work with tells me something about what is going to a project we are on and ends the sentence with “YKWIM”
I said “excuse me?”
“ykwim”
What?! I’m sorry.
Louder: “YKWIM” You know what I mean? (sounds like ick-whem in her Missouri accent)
NO, that’s what I’m saying. I don’t understand what you are saying. Ick-whem? What?!
YOU
KNOW
WHAT
I’m
SAYING
IKWIM
I thought she was going to call me Boomer from her tone.
I said “That is the stupidest thing I’ve heard today. Talk to you tomorrow.
What is this world coming to?
Fuck that up. I am a boomer! MEAN not Saying
ADAD
What bodes well for Malcolm Perry is that we have a 7th rounder from of the 2017,18,19 drafts still on the roster.
Ford, Sanders, Gaskin, Cox
A couple of those will find out what Not For Long NFL means but nonetheless
I really want that kid to stick. Could make for some awesome formations….. and some good 3rd down back stuff.
Flores is molding this roster in his vision with players that he feels fit what he wants to do. Phase II is in full effect.
D says:
May 1, 2020 at 5:25 pm
I thought she was going to call me Boomer from her tone.
I said “That is the stupidest thing I’ve heard today. Talk to you tomorrow.
What is this world coming to?
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You should have ended with TTYTM
That would wind up with a complaint to the HR department.
You can;t go around the office saying “tit-em” to our female coworkers.
Omar, second-guessing the draft….
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-sp-draft-dolphins-kelly-column-20200501-igdewmkoivf3vpou3zcisevasi-story.html
That’s what he does. Draft grades mean nothing, just results on the field. If you become a good team nobody cares how players were acquired. It’s as simple as that.
that’s why is referred to as “the braided coco-nut” …… because he truly is an empty headed retard that deserves little to no respect ……… all I would say to that fucking loser is …………..TRUST THE PLAN ……..YOU STUPID BITCH.
ESPN Outside the Lines idiots bashing our Charles Harris trade. Do they even know what they’re doing in Miami, they’ve traded away 3 of their last 5 1st rd picks.
I’m not going to take it further.
Wow
Right and they replaced all of them with 3 1st round picks this year including a potential franchise QB. Have they ever looked at Charles Harris’ stat sheet after 3 years? I liked Harris but his game never took off. That’s a fact!
Math Roth – YKWIM
Matt Roth- YOLT
What started the Matt Roth stuff again?
Read the article I posted about Cam Wake and check out the last paragraph
Why is Cam Newton still a FA?
……..
Discus amongst your selves…
I don’t think he’s just banged up physically, I think he’s broken mentally after that Super Bowl loss. He lost his mojo.
I said amoungst yourselves….
For Matt Roth
The made me do it
Speaking of throwbacks, and this applies here, remember :
Ghey?
I hate that guy The
Charles Harris is gone does anyone care?
Next Josh Rosen we will be lucky if we get a 7th for him
https://youtu.be/yRV0S0T4XVw
LOL @ Europe and The Final Countdown. That personifies the 80’s hair metal scene where guys looked like girls. The ironic thing is they fucked more girls during that time than anyone else on the planet.
That should be a psychological experiment. LOL
This was a cool scene jam that happened as Jimmy Page was trying to recover from Bonzo’s death and the end of Led Zeppelin.
Should we redshirt Tua? This ain’t the ncaa, he doesn’t get an extra year, if we redshirt him. Why is there even a discussion? If they want to play him, then play him. We all know the plan is to start Fitz, just let it be.
Absolutely red shirt him especially in this f’d up year. Unless Fitz got hurt. However, it might not be a full season of redshirt because depending on how the season unfolds there might be an opportunity to get a look at him later in the year.
Tua will be playing before year’s end.
Harris got a half a sack last year.
Three and a half so far in his 3 seasons.
That’s symptomatic of more than a poor scheme fit.
steveccnv says:
May 1, 2020 at 5:54 pm
ESPN Outside the Lines idiots bashing our Charles Harris trade. Do they even know what they’re doing in Miami, they’ve traded away 3 of their last 5 1st rd picks.
They should just go ahead and rename it NE-SPN.
“they’ve traded away 3 of their last 5 1st rd picks.”
That is a remarkable statistic, though.
I wonder if that has ever happened.
And it does look really bad on paper, with no explanation.
But we would’ve had to pay Tunsil all that cash.
Instead we got another young LT with great potential.
And he spent the summer giving bone marrow instead of using a gas mask.
That’s really unfair, because smokin a j is not a terrible thing and
almost everybody would save their sister’s life if it came to that.
But I do think our new LT is a better building block for our franchise.
Did they mention that for those three Miami got back three extra 1st round pick, multiple later round picks, avoided overpaying, and got rid of a whiner and a bust?
No mention of that sir, just that the Dolphins are stupid fucks as usge
The statement in its own right does sound pretty awful. Of course context is necessary to get an understanding of why these players were traded and for how much draft capital. The only one we didn’t get “good” compensation for was Charles Harris who was a cut candidate. It happens, not every draft pick works out. I think the Dolphins sent a message by taking Austin Jackson at #18, since he was he was the player that essentially replaced MTM. A true high character player replacing a truly selfish player.
ESPN actually took the Dolphins out back and shot them too
What did they say?
I’m just joking
Chiefs signed Taco, 1 year deal
That’s ok we got Ogbah from them. Fine swap if you ask me.
Absolutely!
CBS sports has an article about UDFA pickups by each team and picks the best signing for each team. For the Dolphins, Middle Tennessee LB Tyshun Render is the player. Supposedly, Bill Belichick scouted him personally skipping a day of the NFL Combine to see him. DT Benito Jones also got a mention. I’m still curious as to why Jones went undrafted, as I’ve mentioned a few times, he was the 7th ranked DT in the draft
Basically the fuel for the rebuild comes from from the trading of Tunsil and Fitz, so instead of keeping them we got picks and cap space. Dumping other players helped too, so this was just part of it.
You could also argue that by gutting the roster and making these trades is equivalent to several more 1st rd picks, because of what it would’ve cost to trade yo for Tua.
Here’s where the hypocrisy comes in, when Dallas traded Herschel for lots of picks it fueled their rebuild, and the media praised them.
I think once we become a contender we’ll get praised too, and other teams will try to duplicate it.
You have to have the right FO and coach to pull it off, but I think what we did makes it easier to have a great team, than reloading a 6-10 team.
Great points and really what are the U75s in the media saying? That a disgruntled safety and a LT are irreplaceable?
First, what are you going to do with a guy who doesn’t wsant to play for you? You trade him. Even U75s should be able to understand the basic idea here and the limited options available.
Second, when did an LT become so irreplaceable? Let’s look at another example that would have been easy for a reporter to find. Brandon Albert. 2013 Pro Bowl LT for the Chiefs. They let him go after Reid’s first season as coach. Why?!!!! Because he wanted to rebuild the team in his image. Didn’t it ruin them!!?? No, they just won the Superbowl.
Is this the path we take? Who knows but the precedent is there and it wasn’t even a decade ago. They didn’t have to do a lot of searching to find him. He played for the Dolphins so our writers should know him. Nope, media is garbage. In their quest for clicks and outrage, they’ve become clowns. Their value is less than Walmart value TP 6 months ago. Last resort if you need something.
What the media is saying is just the stat that 3 of our last 5 1st rounders were traded. Now, if they wanted to make a point about not drafting the right players or not wanting to pay our 1st rounders, then they bring something to the table, but they didn’t do that, because it wouldn’t make the story more damaging, less in fact.
The point they were painting was our FO is a mess, so yeah I agree with ESPne.
I remember Dallas getting crucified for the Walker trade!
IE they will never replace his production
And they didn’t! It would be hard to replace Hershel with 1 player!
but thy did replace him with 3!
We will have to wait and see if we pulled a JJ, or a Schnieder?
But we still have one player to add to the Tunsil trade to get the whole picture!!!!!!!
I think we have a 1st and 2nd next year in the trade.
I figure the 2nd was for Stills and the 2 firsts for Tunsil…. but we’ll never know the exact breakdown either.
Don’t even need the next player we draft to finish the Tunsil trade. He just got crazy money. You can say that is what he is worth, but we would have had to pay that too to keep him….. and that’s fair market value.
We got two first round picks for not having him during a rebuilding season. Yeah that makes sense.
^
Still seeing Harris trade articles that missed the point of the trade. Of course every team would like to trade worthless players to them for draft compensation, but what about cap savings?
Because we had so many picks late in 2020, we were giving them away like candy. Since we have a lot of picks in 2021 I’d think the 7th we got from Atlanta was secondary in the trade to the 1.9M in cap savings.
If these articles were national, I’d understand more, but coming from local reporters is lame.
IDK, maybe other people don’t look at the salary cap, and early season games like I do.
In both cases, everything matters, every dollar saved matters, every loss by an AFC playoff hopeful matters (I always root for NFC teams vs AFC teams).
I think the 7th had little to do with it other than you need to give up a pick to make it an actual trade.
Render shows some quickness for a OLB/Edge at 6’4″ 256 pounds. Will be fun to watch his progression with our coaches. He’s a big hitter.
Oh wait, never mind. He’s from a small school and played against lesser talent.
Sounds like at least practice squad. The lesser competition just means you have to put what you see in perspective. A DE blowing by a poor RT means nothing to me, if I wanted to see that I’d watch high school highlights. A WR making acrobatic catches does however mean something against any competition.
It’s hard to tell based on this video, but he does show quick twitch and explosiveness. I’d like to see what he’s doing in every D snap.
Only 3.5 sacks, 5 passes defended, 1 int, 2 FF, 1 FR, 49 tackles
Not a lot of stats, but he must’ve lined up as an LB a lot of the time.
Miami Dolphins — A-
» Round 1: (No. 5 overall) Tua Tagovailoa, QB, Alabama; (No. 18) USC OT Austin Jackson; (No. 30) Auburn CB Noah Igbinoghene.
» Round 2: (39) Robert Hunt, OL, Louisiana; (56) Raekwon Davis, DT, Alabama.
» Round 3: (60) Brandon Jones, S, Texas.
» Round 4: (111) Solomon Kindley, OG, Georgia.
» Round 5: (154) Jason Strowbridge, DE, North Carolina; (164) Curtis Weaver, edge rusher, Boise State.
» Round 6: (185) Blake Ferguson, LS, LSU.
» Round 7: (246) Malcolm Perry, RB, Navy.
PARR: This was the Dolphins’ draft to control. They entered it with the most picks in the league, including three first-rounders, and used the capital about as well as they could. We like the risk they were willing to take with their first selection. Tagovailoa’s potential was too great to pass up, even with the injury concerns. Jackson and Igbinoghene went earlier than many expected them to, but in those two players, Miami might have a future starting left tackle and a tough, competitive, physical nickel back — you need to be good at those spots to win in today’s NFL. We’re not here to strongly dock the Fins for those decisions, even if a case can be made that they were reaches. The Igbinoghene pick foreshadowed the Dolphins’ theme for Day 2 of the draft, as the master plan of adding tough, physical, powerful talent was fully revealed with the selections of Hunt, Davis and Jones. Big fan of the work they did on the defensive line on Day 3, landing a Senior Bowl standout (Strowbridge) and a potential steal in Weaver, who didn’t allow below-average explosiveness to keep him from racking up 34 sacks over the past three seasons. Last but not least, Perry — he of 2,017 rushing yards last season — has a chance to earn a spot as a versatile contributor who can help on offense and special teams. Now, the merits of drafting a long snapper might be debatable, but all in all, a really nice haul here.
nfl.com
Thing is, with Tua being a leftie, your LT is playing on his roll-out and acramble side.
You need an agile guy who can react to the unexpected and has the agiility to go find somebody to block in space.
Jackson fits that role perfectly.
Finsiders has a video about our DBs, they talk about McCain being out of position at safety, too small and not good in the single high safety. He gives too big of a cushion, because his coverage skills are poor, and that’s why Jones was drafted.
I’m not sure I buy into that, but only because I haven’t seen video for myself. I guess i have to go watch the condensed version of some of our games.
Thoughts?
We drafted Noah and was thinking guess McCain will stay at safety.
We drafted Brandon Jones and was going WTF.
But maybe we gonna play dime a lot or maybe is cause McCain can be cut next year.
And in a D where DBs are critical…. you know one of them will get injured.
Just watched the first half at Buffalo, and yeah I agree with Phinsiders, McCain is terrible at safety, Jones should start game 1. He’s not a good tackler and can’t cover enough ground to be a coverage zone safety, not sure why he was ever back there.
90% of the plays McCain is so deep he’s not even in the picture, until after the play when he’s slapping helmets of the tackler.
McCain was a good to very good nickel back. They moved him to free safety because I guess they had no one else because Reshad and TJ are both SS box safeties.
McCain lacks closing speed and revealed very poor instincts as the last line of defense. That’s a deadly combination, worsened by his sore shoulder making him a poor tackler.
I think he could be a good nickel again, but Igbinoghene is way better at that. He could be a dime, but I think that ship has sailed in favor of Brandon Jone, who also plays special teams better than Bobby.
I’m afraid McCain is not long for this roster. Even Adrian Colbert and Steven Parker looked better and now we have Clayton Fejedelem and all 3 of them are way bigger and much more physical.
We even picked up Kavon Frazier off waivers. That was the last straw to me for McCain, as Frazier weighs 223 and hits like a mack truck.
McCain can play nickel back . But our top guys put him at safety, most distinctly free safety. But who knows how this D will work? Like said before…… he’s a FA next year as far as his contract goes.
The biggest problem for the team in getting rid of Bobby Mac is that everyone loves him. We’ve heard it how they love him as a leader as a teammate and so on. Maybe they find a role for him or he surprises everyone but Naples you just charted out a very difficult path for McCain to make it.
Competition works itself out. McCain played a lot of games with a separated shoulder and was eventually shut down. It was also his first season playing safety. I wouldn’t write him off just yet.
Wow, #1 pick in the draft. Easy to see why he was so bad.
He didn’t love football.
Between the stories of purple drank and no work ethic, I’d say he didn’t even like football. Got paid and quit.
Yep! He got the money and then just wanted to chill with his homies.
Mike, the only thing I can think of about why Benito Jones wasn’t drafted other than some off the field stuff or medical I have no idea about, is that he’s probably only a 2-down NT and that position has been devalued especially if a player doesn’t have much pass rush.
Could be. I was wondering if there was something more damaging, maybe an injury or a personal issue like drugs or maybe an arrest or something.
regarding Perry …
Flores pulled off some amazing “trick plays” !! Imagine Perry lined up all over the place, with his throwing ability, just creating a shitload of possibilities.
Yeah I hope this kid makes it.
Steve, yeah. I couldn’t find a complete game tape on Render. Hard to with small school players. Stats don’t tell everything but his stats his first 3 years were pedestrian and greatly improved his senior season. He did seem to hold his own against two Big 10 teams last year.
-At Michigan – 7 tackles, .5 TFL, 1 PD, 1 FR, 1 FF
-At Iowa – 4 tackles, 1 sack
Wish I could find a game tape on one of those two games.
The highlights were horrible, they didn’t even show where he was at the start of the play.
His stays suggest he was an LB. Where did he usually line up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iweFD2iDUY
When watching small school players or late and undrafted players it’s not always about the competition but how fast they get from point A to point B. That and how they play the game. Tyshun Render looks the part. We’ll see.
I see that too, let’s see how serious he is about an NFL career. He seems to have the talent, will the drive be there?
Yeah I don’t know anything about him. He’s built like a legit edge guy and he looks fast though.
For years there’s been the story out there about former players getting lifetime medical coverage, which I agree with, but who should pay for it?
The players are pretty close in making currently 47%, going up to around 48.5%, so why dont they each take some right off the top, something like 2% each?
I think you can never have enough good DB’s and that all of these guys will get hurt this year and some even injured.
THIS unique offseason especially I see the Vets playing earlier in the year.
We’ve got a pretty impressive group.
My thought was we have more than we need. But guess Gase said you can never have too many.
You can only keep so many so competition will work it out.
I think we have enough DBs, but not too much. CBs Jones and X, Nickel Igbinoghene, S Rowe and Jones, Dime McCain. Needham next off the bench, after that I have no idea.
That’s pretty good.
Thanks Wyoming! Looks like he was playing mostly DE in the game against Michigan.
It’s funny the aftermath of the draft is quieter than pre-draft. LOL
I thought it always was. Even quite this year, because there’s no mini or rookie camps.
I would think there would be more Tua talk.
It’s funny, we all know he has talent and possibly the “IT” factor, but his durability concerns has everyone quiet. Only in Miami. LOL
Super Bowl replay of Niners Vs. Chiefs on your local FOX station now. Watch it closely b/c BOTH TEAMS are on this year’s Dolphins’ regular season schedule (as virtually all of you already know.) I’d prefer to see neither of them in week#1. Opening at home vs. the Cheatriots would be NICE!!
What do you think about how we addressed the OL this year?
I’ll say this, there is no doubt that the Phins want to start the Tua era as fast as possible. Keep that in mind. He’s not in a cast or walking on crutches. You can’t baby guys. If he’s the best QB whenever the season starts he’ll play. I really believe that.
We have a pretty good QB in front of him
He’s going to have t8me to get ready
Better than Tannehill had with Gerard
It’s going to happen sooner than later.
I see now what you were getting at with it being quiet on here. Surely the injury and the fact that we don’t expect much from Tua this year have us subdued.
Another thing could be Flores said they weren’t drafting the guys that were most ready, but the best.
I’m not feeling it yet, because they haven’t been able to get into rookie/mini camp yet.
TIM: I BELIEVE, in the 12th year of Ross’s ownership, the Dolphins have FINALLY fully addressed their needs in the offensive line. And NONE TOO SOON for the long term health of whoever our starting QB is.
My expectations are, #1, TUA will be the opening day starter THIS SEASON and,
#2, the Dolphins WILL make the playoffs this season. This upcoming season will
PROVE that FLORES is the best head coach Ross has ever hired. By a LOT!
I’d like to see Fitz take us to the playoffs, then decide to stay on as backup for 4 more years, with Tua getting some PT late in blowouts wins.
Wow, NFL plans to start season on time.
I don’t expect the OL to be great this year, or even much better than average, but it will seem like they are in comparison.
I expect the secondary to be very good, with lots of games resulting in points allowed under 20. About 18 pts allowed on average for year.
Dalton to Dallas, I like it, it’s not NE.
Wow!
Yep, one less QB on the market for NE. It seems like an odd choice for Dalton to choose Dallas where he has zero chance of becoming the starter. I guess he’s cool with the idea he’s a back up now.
If the season starts on time, I doubt Tua is the starter. That is just a gut feeling not really based on anything since we know nothing about how he’ll transition to the NFL yet. I think we’ll know pretty early on in the process if there is even a chance of that happening, and I agree that if Tua has shown to be the best QB by the start of the season, he’ll start game 1. I just don’t think he beats Fitz for the spot right out of the gate. If Tua does start game 1, then all the better for us. I do agree, Tim, that however it happens, we’ll see him earlier rather than later in the season.
Can’t have Phase III without Tua.
I’m quiet about Tua because I think it would be in our best interest not to play him this season. If that’s the case, whaddaya wanna talk about him? 🙂
You can’t treat him like he’s hurt if he isn’t. However I do think he can sit and learn for awhile. I see him playing in the second half of the season.
I also don’t see any reason to hurry Tua with the off-season so jacked up. If he’s the guy, he’s got all year to learn and try to impress. Andy Reid really did all these young QBs a giant favor. Starting new QBs from the start rarely works but if Tua impresses, more power to him. I don’t mind if he follows in Marino’s footsteps.
Piggy
Tua is sitting. In heard they banned Fitzpatrick from all pools!
LOL — Is he allowed to pick up kids. 🙂
I’ve been watching Tua game film, Dolphins games and all the rookies game film all day long. This is the best rookie class we’ve ever had. I see 3 rookies starting on the OL, Tua starting at QB, several other rookies being a part of the DL, Igbinoghene our Nickel, Jones starting at safety dance, 4 new comers in FA starting on D, 2 more on the OL.
To recap 7 new starters on O and 5 on D, to go with a new LS.
Returning starters on D, Rowe, X, Baker, McMillan, Godchaux, and Wilkins.
Returning starters on O, Parker, William’s, Gesicki, and Wilson.
The 10 returning starters are pretty damn good, but the new starters are even better. We can stop Mahomes with our 3 shutdown CBs and suffocating pass rush. Jackson was a one hit wonder, but if not we’ll suffocate him too. On O no one will be able to stop our running game with our new OL and Tua will have all day to throw.
Why not us in 2020?
Cue up the fight song! Miami has the Dolphins the greatest football team…
I would not be shocked if we challenged for the AFC East title.
You bit.
I was just having a little fun with you. I will say that is a pretty good lineup on paper though.
No worries. Our roster is better and the AFC East is not that daunting.
Not sure the AFC East opponents have the receivers to get open on us. If we have a pass rush we’re good. 😉
I don’t think I’m treating him like he’s hurt. He’s coming off a major injury, that’s a fact. If more time to heal is in his best interests, and ours, then that’s the way we go. There’s no reason that he has to play immediately, we have Fitz and we have Rosen too. He’s in a perfect situation where he doesn’t have to be rushed in
Let him get fully healthy, acclimate to the speed of the NFL, and learn from Fitzpatrick…….if he’s willing. Even if he’s not he’ll be seeing how a pro goes about his business.
I would have no problem not seeing him on the field at all this season. Especially with the cluster fuck it could turn out to be this year with all crap happening right now.
I don’t see Tua starting this year either. Ligament damage/fracure in hip, best healed fully in 9-12 month range.
Then, translate to NFL without the “NFL caliber line” among boys in college, he’s in for a huge awakening. Kinda, maybe like LSU did to him and worse.
I’m also miffed at the thinking we have solved our oline woes. Let’s see first.
Reid has it right. If you can sit and learn, sit and learn. There’s no rush to f’k Tua uo sooner than later.
^up
I’m in the let Tua rest till late in t he season club at least. And what happened to rooks sitting and learning anyhow?
I hear Igbinoghene plays S too, what about playing him and Jones at S, then Rowe or McCain at Nickel, the other at dime?
What is our biggest weakness for starters? Team?
Still OL until they prove different!
I have to agree with Wyoming. New offense and a bunch of new OL. Going to be some growing pains there I’m afraid. Fitz will be a busy man come TC.
Youth. Our young OL needs time to learn. Our young QB needs time to learn and heal.
Another thing could be Flores said they weren’t drafting the guys that were most ready, but the best.
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Three NFL Franchises Who Established Their Identity In 2020 Draft (from Thedraftnetwork)
Miami Dolphins
Identity: “Roll Tide!”
The Dolphins fired offensive coordinator Chad O’Shea at the end of the season in a surprising move and replaced him with Chan Gailey. Why? Look no further than the team’s selection with No. 5 pick: quarterback Tua Tagovailoa.
Miami’s offensive identity in 2019 was “survive if you can.” But the Dolphins have rolled out the red carpet for big, nasty maulers up front and complemented that with a play-caller and passer with plenty of experience executing run/pass option concepts. The team’s new primary ball carrier is a downhill runner in Jordan Howard. Miami’s five newly acquired offensive linemen between free agency and draft average 323.8 pounds.
Do you want to know what the Dolphins’ offensive attack will ideally look like? Look to Tagovailoa’s college offense at Alabama.
The Dolphins, with Tagovailoa as the trigger man, are going to physically challenge opponents by running power concepts into stretched boxes. Gailey has shown tendencies in the past of implementing a lot of 11 personnel and stretching the field horizontally. By doing so, Miami can gain advantageous numbers in the box and look to blow defenses off the ball. And, as an extension off of that, is likely to package its pass options onto those same power, lead and dive concepts and give Tagovailoa the opportunity to make defenders wrong — just as he did at Alabama in 2019.
It’s an ambitious approach. But it’s also one that we should have faith in after seeing so many college concepts thrive at the professional level in recent years. Most importantly of all? It’s taking a great player in Tagovailoa and replicating what made him so good to begin with instead of putting a square peg into a round hole.
This is an article that kind of expands on that last post. Interesting and makes me feel better about Tua going forward if he stays healthy.
https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/tua-tagovailoa-miami-dolphins-chan-gailey-mike-gesicki-preston-williams-nfl-draft-2020
That would explain why Wilson is still on the team. What I find hard to believe is Tua running the RPO more than occasionally.
Regarding Charles Harris trade:
Coach knows what he wants. Harris isn’t a long term fit … instead of releasing might as well get something for him. It may “only” be a 7th rounder, but for a team that clearly wants to build through the draft, you can never get enough picks (especially for next year).
I agree, but also thinking that when you trade someone you need to get something back. In this case a 7th. That puts Harris’ contract on their books.
Harris was gone the minute we drafted Strowbridge, but the trade was more about not paying the 1.9M guarantee.
What is our biggest weakness for starters? Team?
Let me rephrase this.
What are our biggest weakness for starters and for the team in general, that haven’t been addressed either through the draft, trades or FA?
Tight end
Did you read the article above that BBM posted? It says Gailey doesn’t feature the TE much. It could be real interesting to see how Gesicki is used.
For me, it’s RB.
I think Howard is a stop gap. He is only signed for 2 years and has no dead money in 2021 if we cut him after this season. Look for us to draft another replacement next year in 1st or 2nd round. Another north/south big back like Alabama’s RB Najee Harris who is like 6’2″ 230, possibly Clemson RB Travis Etienne or Miss. State RB Kylin Hill. I would prefer Etienne or Hill over Harris. Harris is a bit slow. Etienne and Hill are explosive!
I hear this guy Perry will be a star
Where do you see him playing, RB, WR or all over the place? What position do you see him listed at on the roster?
After reading the 2 posts above he seems to be a good fit in the Gailey YAC offense.
OW ( offensive weapon) 😉
With the acquisition of flowers.karras.and the inside ol draft picks did we finally fix the ol and should we expect a good running game?
Yes, but Flores cares mostly about the future (until of course something doesn’t go right in a game), so the players drafted were with the future in mind with no pressure to field a top OL to start the season.
With Fitz starting game 1, it’s not that important that the OL is in top form, nothing there to protect. All of this fits the still rebuilding mantra.
Great news. And another game in Mexico, which likely would’ve been a shorter travel distance (thinking the AZ game).
Steve, I responded above. We still need to improve at RB.
If we had another RB, where would he fit into the roster? I’m assuming we already have 6 WRs from last year and Perry listed at RB.
Do we carry 5 RBs including Cox ir is Cox out?
I also think we need another small fast YAC receiver. I think Perry will be that. He is an ankle breaker but not that fast.
Wilson is a F/A after this season. I see us letting him walk and get what ever comp we can for him or end up trading him this season. Though his salary is high and we would probably have to agree to pay some of his salary for a decent pick.
I would not be surprised at all if our two 1st round picks in 2021 are WR and RB.
My prediction is Clemson RB Travis Etienne and Purdue WR Rondale Moore.
Steve, Howard is only a stop gap, IMO. We were smart with his contract. We only signed him for 2 years and can cut him after this season with no dead cap hit.
Also, Wilson is gone after this season. I am talking about spots to fill next year not this year.
I know you guys know about Travis Etienne but might be wondering who WR Rondale Moore is. You didn’t hear much about him last year cause he hurt his hamstring in game 4 and missed the rest of the season. Keep an eye on him this year. He runs a 4.33 and runs great routes from the slot. A perfect replacement for Wilson. This is a video of every touch vs then undefeated #2 Ohio State in 2018. Purdue upset OSU cause they could not stop Moore. Moore had 252 all purpose as a freshman in this game.
Wow
GLAD TO SEE that NFL games can not be played in London this season. No one really knows what the status of the corona virus will be during the football season. But I’d sure feel better for the players & fans if ALL games THIS YEAR were played on American soil.
BBM, I love Ettienne and Moore looked really good in the video you posted. I could those two spots as our first rounders. Up until we drafted Strowbridge and Weaver I was thinking maybe we go DE early next year. If these guys work out along with the FA and the rush linebackers we have we’ll be in great shape to get weapons.
Ian Book as our Fromm pick next year if Fitz is done and we move Joe Shrosen
Ian Book is a “gamer”. Irish fans are glad to have him back for a senior year season!!
I’m a big fan of him
Ok, I had to beat Wyoming to it. This is my Way-Too-Fucking-Early 2021 Draft. I don’t think we will be picking as high as #8 but they also are predicting the Houston pick at #9. It would be great if they were that bad.
#8 RB Travis Etienne, Clemson
#9 WR Rondale Moore, Purdue
#40 OT Alex Leatherwood, Alabama
#41 LB Charles Snowden, Virginia
#72 DT Lorenzo Neal, Purdue
#104 Edge Jaelan Phillips, Miami
#136 QB Sam Ehlinger, Texas
#186 CB Chase Lucas, Az State
#187 OG/OT Sadarius Hutcherson, South Carolina
They didn’t have our 7th listed yet so I’m trading that away for someone’s 2022 6th round pick. LOL
Etienne and Brieda would be a sick backfield.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! 😉
I know none of those guys….. but oh man do I like Houston at #9.
Son, I was trying to think of an athletic QB to back up Tua. I can’t believe I forgot about Ian Book and went with Ehlinger.
Fields may be a good option for the option?
Wyoming, I think Fields is the best QB to come out of Ohio State in a long time who didn’t transfer to another school (Burrow). I think Lawrence and Fields go in top 5, IMO.
Last year Parker and William’s broke out, because of Fitz. This year I expect the breakout players to be Wilson and Grant, due to the scheme of Gailey.
Yet another reason I am glad we’ve had nothing to do with him (it’ll be my luck that the Dolphins will have to call his agent sometime this season…):
https://apple.news/APmbD2t5bR4mphW2K0sMdcQ
With all respect to Son, Newton seemed like a progress stopper for us. And waiting for an injury sorta makes sense. He can be plugged and play. Same time means what he wanted didn’t work out.
This FO would not bring in a diva like him.
True, but we’re in a good place at QB no need for Cam. They wouldn’t call Cam even if all 3 we have got injured.
I don’t think Cox will make the team, the linebacker we got from new England can play full back.
Yup and so can Wilkins
Also 1 of our tight ends works as a full back as well, I can’t remember his name.
Maybe Paris will be our punt returner, he may be a slot guy as well.
perry
Noah is a possible on that as well, but hard not to like Perry. Could see him slot and long yardage back as well.
Stanger, those 2 OL I drafted are two big nasties who can play G/T and fit the same mold as those we drafted this year. DT Lorenzo Neal would have came out this year had he no got hurt last year. I still feel we don’t have that immovable NT type on the DL. Lorenzo Neal is just that.
So you thinking we need our Vince Wilfork or, to make it homer….. Tim Bowens? Would certainly fit with playing multiple schemes. Wilkins and R. Davis still some talent already though.
Right with you that the OL sure ain’t play any kind of Zone scheme. We’re going with the beef. And some nasty in there too.
#104 Edge Jaelan Phillips, Miami
He is just on my watch list. He was a 5 star recruit but only played 6 games as a freshman before missing rest of season with high ankle injury. Then 2018 got a concussion and missed the rest of the season. Took 2019 off and transferred to Miami. He is 100% and think he is going to explode onto the scene so to speak. Kid is super talented.
All I’m saying is don’t be surprised if Tua plays this year. I think he will.
And if he doesn’t play this year, do we put him on IR so not to take up a roster spot this year?