WR Corps suffer legitimate depth issues with 2 COVID-19 opt outs

Many of you here didn’t really value the services of one Allen Hurns, and maybe I’m on the side of overrating him, but Hurns was on target to be the starter opposite DeVante Parker at least into training camp. If Preston Williams proved he was healthy and battle ready then it’s possible Hurns slipped down the depth chart as he was replaced by the younger, more explosive Williams. IN any case, Hurns was a veteran receiver with AFC experience and one that thrived playing opposite a very talented receiver in Allen Robinson in Jacksonville. Never as much of a big play threat as Robinson, Hurns was a steady, reliable , professional possession receiver. Albert Wilson looked like he was almost all the way back last season, especially towards the end of the season. The last 3 games he caught 17 passes which is nearly half of his season’s production of 41 receptions. He had the lowest YPC average of his career at 8.1 and only one TD but the hip injury that cut his 2019 season short really took its toll on the receiver as he finally worked his way back. I do recall seeing a couple of plays at the end of the year where his explosiveness resembled the player of 2019 where he was turning nothing into something big routinely.

Before the opt outs, I felt like we had a very strong WR room with serious depth and a nice mix of youth and veterans. Parker is 27, Wilson 28 and Allen Hurns 28, along with young up and comers like Preston Williams (23), Gary Jennings (23), Isaiah Ford (24), Malcolm Perry (23) and Jakeem Grant who is now 27. If Preston Williams is ready he takes Hurns spot on the outside opposite Parker. Which receiver or receivers get to thrive in the slot? Jakeem Grant will be in the running as will Gary Jennings and 7th RD draftee Malcolm Perry. Grant has the speed and explosiveness Wilson had but not the size, Grant (5’6 171) is about 25 lbs lighter and doesn’t have the run power to break tackles like Wilson did. Gary Jennings is a little less speedy and explosive but has good size at 6’1 216. Jennings ran a 4.42 at the combine and put up 20 reps so he has some upper body strength. Malcolm Perry is closest size wise and elusiveness to Wilson but doesn’t have the top speed that Wilson had. Perry ran 4.63 40 at the combine. If you watch Perry play though, he always looks fast enough and is a very slippery runner. The Dolphins signed Colts WR Chester Rogers to a 1YR deal which deepens the depth a little. Rogers caught 53 passes in 2018, just 16 last year playing behind WR Zach Pascal.

The biggest concern I have about our WR’s, or really any unit on our team is the depth. If we’ve learned anything by watching MLB, NBA or NHL in 2020 in the year of COVID-19 is that players drop like flies. One second they’re on the team and the next they’re on COVID-19 protocol. Add in the usual NFL injuries, especially considering this year with a huge lack of practices and no preseason games and you will likely see how important good depth will be. I’d even question whether the league will be able to play a full season. We’re going to have to count on a bunch of our deeper depth players this season and I hope we get them all ready for action. When Chan Gailey was with the Jets in 2015-2016, he utilized Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker mostly, with a decent amount of passing to the RB’s Chris Ivory and Bilal Powell. In 2016 Decker was gone after 3 games and replaced by Quincy Enunwa and the offense didn’t really feature a slot WR much. Robby Anderson provided the deep threat on the outside and again, the RB’s, now Matt Forte and Bilal Powell caught a bunch of passes. Jordan Howard isn’t much of a pass catcher but Matt Breida is a good receiver out of the backfield who was stifled by playing time in a 3 headed attack in SF with Raheem Mostert and Tevin Coleman and also CJ Beathard. Malcolm Perry may also get some use out of the backfield and Kalen Ballage was thought to be a good receiver although he didn’t get to show any of those skills here in MIA. Patrick Laird and Kenyan Drake caught the most passes at RB. In any case, one thing we’ll probably have to get used to in 2020 is NEXT MAN UP . . .

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2,262 Responses to WR Corps suffer legitimate depth issues with 2 COVID-19 opt outs

  1. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Help, I’ve fallen, and I can’t get up out of this hippy rabbit hole

  2. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    So we’ll like totally get rid of all of society’s rules, man. We just tear down the system and we’ll do things for each other. We’ll install a system of barter, brother, and we’ll totally each do our own thing. Like, we’ll have one guy that makes bread for people, and another will bond with the earth and grow things, and like another guy that totally looks out for other people and their welfare…..

    You mean like a baker, a farmer, and a cop?

  3. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    The state and local govts have more control of covid, than the WH by design, just like they do for voting, state/local taxes…

  4. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    The Blues playing like they did early last year. Is it too late, to turn it around?

  5. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Wow! Bad, if not border line favouritism officiating. Blues can’t do shit, pick a fight and the Canucks get the double minor so power play Blues and they score.

  6. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Wow the Flyers got dominated 5-0. I did not see that coming. Yikes!

  7. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    steveccnv says:
    August 14, 2020 at 7:55 pm
    Come on man
    ————
    What? Too distasteful? He started it. lol
    I’m pretty sure he’s courting me, which is adorable.

  8. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Wow

  9. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    They need to challenge that , stick not over crossbar

  10. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Woohoo!

  11. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Wow what a save

  12. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Oh my , I wish Binnington played like this last year 😊…
    tough loss Cav ..

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Yeah, I’m pretty resigned to going out rd 1. We’re just not the same team we were a couple of months ago. It’s all good, I’ll be living off last year for a long time 🙂

  13. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Great, now we have to win at least one on the road…

  14. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    For the Dems around here . . .

  15. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Anyone else disgusted by the execution death of a 5 year old boy named Cannon Hinnant? But as long as it wasn’t about a white on black crime, crickets! This country has a moral problem well beyond race. This country is fucked in the head, and if you think politics will solve this type of evil you’re fucking evil!

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Why should anyone that doesn’t know him be disgusted? They said a 25 year old man walked up and shot him in the head. If we knew why he did it and it was something like a game or a gang initiation, then absolutely.

      At this point I’d think the 25 year old had some mental issues, that could happen at any time to anyone. Why should we think it has anything to do with what’s been going on lately?

      Let’s not jump to any conclusions, there’s too much of that these days.

      Bad shit happens all the time, don’t give up hope for man kind, because what else do we have, but hope? It’s ok, come down from the ledge.

      On the lighter side. How will the Flyers react to todays loss?

  16. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    More proof Trump is the bad guy:

  17. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    The excuses you hear about Cannon Hinnant, even by some of our own here are that while tragic, the perpetrator was found after a manhunt and brought to justice. Nothing to see here, as opposed to the killing of Ahmaud Arbery where it took a month or more to finally bring in the murderer and his assistant in the murder. However, if a white man killed a black boy right now and was found within 10 minutes and executed on the spot, the murder itself would be on the news for a month on every fucking channel. Ken says news is a business, it has to sell. Sorry Hulk, but if that’s how you feel then Orange guy is right every time he mentions fake news and lambasts the mainstream media because they’re sellouts. This is becoming a white hating society and I see self loathing whites all over the place. I hope they’re going to be happy when the tide really turns and they’re not doing it just to be altruistic and impress other people with the verve for this and white becomes the new black. Good luck with that . . .

  18. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Here’s a perfect example of what I’m talking about. This is a young white girl who works for my company that posted this

    PEOPLE CRACK ME UP.
    Why isnt this all over the media? Why aren’t people protesting and demanding Justice for cannon?
    Because the little boys murderer was arrested the day of the crime, is behind bars, and being held without Bond on First degree murder charges.
    Will he get a paid vacation? No
    Will he be walking free? No
    Will he be sent to prison where he will go through hell for being a child killer? YES.
    So explain to me what justice, what protest, what media outrage you are looking for?
    Are you comparing this to the numbers of black people killed by cops because if you are,
    Did the cops get a paid vacation? Yes
    Did the cops walk free? Yes
    Did the cops go to prison? 1 so far has and she is appealing her case, which is being done under the radar because if social media knew they would be all over Amber.
    So ask yourself, what justice are you looking for? This man will more than likely die horribly in prison as he should but, How many of those cops wrongfully killed a black child or woman and walked free? Where was YOUR outrage?
    Cannon is already getting his Justice and it will be swift.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Cannon, a poor 5 year old child is getting his justice. Is that what they call that? Justice? Hopefully nothing like this happens to someone in her family, we’ll see if she feels the same way. People are fucked. If she was in front of me now I’d like to smack her so fucking hard she wouldn’t be able to post shit like this for a week! If this is the generation that will be running this country I don’t want to see it.

  19. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Mike

    I don’t know if you know this but the boys killer and the father knew each other. They are neighbors. They actually had him over for dinner the night before. Which actually makes it more disgusting.

    But it begs the question, do you think that it was just a random black person that killed a random white child bc of their race? I don’t know if the story is about race at all – if it is, it’s newsworthy, but shooting some one’s child is not the typical hate crime you see perpetuated.

    I do think there are some stories on the subject that should be reported and are not being reported

    There’s gotta be a back story on whatever his motivation is

    Also there are subjects that have national relevance like:

    How did some one like this have a gun?

    Did he have a history before this and did the system fail in punishing him? There are numerous stories about dangerous people with serious mental health issues being out there among us – if he is evidence of that, I think it’s newsworthy and can be something people really care about – if the criminal justice system is for failing (frankly we all know it is)

    There are stories the media doesn’t pay enough attention to and there are stories they repeat to an annoying level. I’ve always been frustrated with that on trivial issues like in sports and serious ones like this one. But honestly I don’t think that’s the sort of thing our leaders should be addressing.

    But that said, I think those of you that bring this up have a good point. There is a story there that would interest people and is important to how we run the world around us. So to that degree, you’ve changed my opinion on the subject by talking about it here. I’m not likely to be as dismissive of the story as I was when it was Initially brought up

    But I dont want the news to be about tragedy porn
    I don’t want the news to report things that are so depressing and outrageous it’s the story for people to just clinch their fists
    And reporting about a child’s random murder is really emotional any way you slice it. I don’t eamt any interviews with crying mothers.

    I dont want them to report a story either and say – look at this “here’s a black guy who killed a white child” like it’s tit for tat either. That’s not appropriate. I dont think the news should force stories about every race killing every race to make every race feel comfortable. Maybe the story is being ignored bc it’s not about a white cop killing a black person – but I think it might be disingenuous to present this as a hate crime (although if some one knows that the murderer said something like that, that changes that) it just doesn’t sound like that to me if there ate dinner together the night before.

    And I don’t think the story is. – look how the media ignores this story either, and that seems to be what a lot of conservative pundits want to make the story about. If Fox does a story on why CNN didn’t cover the story, and then ignores the story of why he was able to buy a gun, if he did it illegally and had a criminal record (those are guesses) I think that’s pretty irresponsible

    There are a lot of things that need national attention and media attention, so yeah I agree it shouldn’t be ignored and it probably is being ignored intentionally by some stations bc it doesn’t fit the topics they like to talk about, which is a good point by those of you I generally disagree with

    but I would be really cautious about two things: reporting it as a crime of a black person killing a white child (like it’s an example of something bigger) or reporting Just the magnitude of the tragedy. I honestly think when the news does that and seeks out crying mothers for interviews it’s gross, it always has been

    I don’t want it sprinkled with sensationalism

    The story really has to be about why did this happen at some level bc maybe it is a look into a bigger issue that affects all of us.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      Piggy,
      a black man killed a white boy, and while you try to randomize it; which is fair.
      that randomization doesn’t work both ways.

      if it was in reverse the nation would be in an uproar right now, so why are we not in an uproar over that?

  20. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Piggy – The last thing I want is tragedy porn news, I feel like it’s pretty close to that already which is why it angers me that this got no coverage. I knew he was a neighbor, I think the kid rode through the the guys yard or something like that. I think the bigger point is I need to take a break from social media. I’m not actively looking for these things but I’m finding them nonetheless. It will still be there even if I’m not looking but I need to chill out, I’m starting to build up anger and it’s not good.

  21. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    didn’t the cop who killed floyd have a history with him? and was that cop charged with murder?
    another random incident that has set this country in anarchy.

    so what’s the difference?

    i would say killing the boy is more heinous. so why are we not rioting and destroying businesses over that?

  22. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Orob

    That makes no sense

    Why do you want riots and looters?

    You think bc rioter and looters existed in response to none issue it’s now the new measure of how we should always respond

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      If you want to riot and loot bc you are upset about it

      Go for it

      I didn’t riot for anyone for the record….lol

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      I don’t want rioters and looters but it seems that ship has sailed.
      and mostly in democratic run states.

      the Dems have a way of pointing out injustice that serves their purpose yet throwing a blind eye to events that dont.

      you’re outraged by other events yet you randomize the 5 year old boy.

      the golden rule, do unto others as you would have others do unto you

  23. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Mike

    Social media is not a great forum for reason

    I dont really use Facebook anymore

    I enjoy twitter – but the key is to make quick jabs and smart ass remarks
    When I try to engage with people on twitter (and I always fall down that rabbit hole) it’s a mess

  24. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    It’s very sad that the Dems are using rioting and killing for political purposes, i don’t recall an election with this much dirty politics in my life.
    it’s down right dirty!

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      ORob

      So it’s not about the story being underreported to you – it’s about everything else that is reported?

      What are you going after here?

      I don’t get it

      That’s exactly my earlier point. That child’s death is not a platform to attack important things the media does cover. I get people being upset it’s not covered. I don’t get people telling other people what not to be upset about.

      I don’t care for the double standard angle – bc it doesn’t feel like it has anything to do with the child’s death, reporting the motivation behind it or anything we can do to stop something like that – it just feels like an excuse to criticize what is being reported as if those things aren’t important

      if you want to riot – go riot
      I’m not going to stop you.
      If you get caught on tv I will say the same thing I do about other rioter “well he’s upset”
      I’ll be sympathetic

      I don’t want to riot about anything. That’s my thing. I guess I’m weird that way. I can’t even motivate myself to got to dunkin doughnut and get coffee this morning.

      I don’t think it’s productive for people to challenge why other people are upset about anything. I think it’s productive to demand the story be reported the right way – so that People are aware of it and so it can be prevented from happening .

      Like I said. I agree with others it’s a legitimate story. But it’s not a platform to de-legitimize other stories

  25. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    it’s been dirty since trump took office, the dems have tried to impeach him, spied on his campaign, attacked him every day. how much money did the impeachment cost? anyone with a brain knew that wouldn’t fly yet they spent your tax dollar for political gain. and couldn’t they come up with a better candidate? biden is the worst choice ever! he’s corrupt!

    meanwhile trump forges ahead running the country.

    it’s beyond me to see how anyone could vote for the left, they have created controversy for political gain and all their minions follow behind it.

  26. canamdolphin's avatar canamdolphin says:

    Wikipedia: (Oh oh, fake news, right?)
    During his campaign Trump repeatedly promised “I’m not going to cut Social Security like every other Republican and I’m not going to cut Medicare or Medicaid.”[146] For the first three years of his presidency he said nothing about cutting Social Security or Medicare. In a January 2020 interview he said he planned to “take a look” at entitlement programs like Medicare,[147] but he then said via Twitter “We will not be touching your Social Security or Medicare in Fiscal 2021 Budget.”[148] His proposed 2021 budget, unveiled in February 2020, included a $45 billion cut to the program within Social Security that supports disabled people,[149] as well as cuts to Medicare and Medicaid.[148] In August 2020, as part of a package of executive orders related to the coronavirus pandemic, he signed an order to postpone the collection of the payroll taxes that support Social Security and Medicare, paid by employees and employers, for the rest of 2020. He also said that if he wins re-election, he will forgive the postponed payroll taxes and make permanent cuts to the payroll tax, saying he would “terminate the tax,” although only Congress can change tax law.[150] Analysts said such an action would threaten Social Security and Medicare by eliminating the dedicated funding which pays for the programs.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      This part about eliminating pay roll taxes and it threatening SS and Medicare is politically motivated and fake news. He clearly said they would be paid through the general fund. You can debate whether or not his insight about the economy growing like he expects, but to say he lied about cuts due to payroll tax elimination isn’t accurate.

      So to be fair, what you have a problem with is Trump lying about something when campaigning, so how do you feel about anyone on the left saying free, free, free, free free (college tuition, medical insurance, college debt payoff or anything else not likely to happen)?

      • canamdolphin's avatar canamdolphin says:

        You’re so full of je ne c’est quoi. Read his “executive orders”, then call it “fake news”.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        The fake moral outrage isn’t going to fly here.

        Tell me what I wrote that you don’t agree with, then answer the hypocrisy of the left question at the end.

      • canamdolphin's avatar canamdolphin says:

        Fake moral outrage? Ha! I’m a lifelong registered Republican and retired law enforcement officer and will not vote for Trump. The “left” isn’t in the WH, so I don’t see your point. General fund? What’s wrong with paying social security and medicare through payroll taxes the way it’s always been before Trump?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      He said he’d reduce the deficit too, but I actually don’t damn him as much for breaking campaign promises….. that’s not new at all. He’s done enough stuff in real time that are under his control. Seen his tax returns lately? No he is not legally obligated to disclose, but he promised he would over and over and over. Then he went all the way to the Supreme Court to not disclose.

  27. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Philip- There is no question Trump is a liar and he’s full of shit. I’ve yet to find a politician that is otherwise.

    • canamdolphin's avatar canamdolphin says:

      Mike, I detest liars and this same old shit. Want to try a new flavor of shit until that becomes unpalatable. Hope you and yours are well!

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      It’s on the front page of cnn right now

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      There were 16,000 murders in the US last year. Seems everyday there are ones that don’t get much coverage other than in their local area.

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      about time! BTW when do the WLM riots start, i didn’t see it in your links?

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Ah, so now it’s being covered so you need to pivot instead of just answering the question? I think it’s a fair question, what is it you want?

        If you think there should be a WLM movement, why don’t you start one?

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        You know it’s funny, I ask a genuine question, and I asked it respectfully, because I am trying to understand the point of view, but all you come back with is a pivot away from answering (likely because you don’t even know what you want in this case) then you move on to hate. There is no attempt at rational explanation so my attempt to come together or find common ground is dead in the water.

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        Take it easy kong, sorry if i upset you, the hypocrisy of the left is my point, nothing personal. in fear of upsetting you again i’ll refrain my responses to you.

  28. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “Malcolm Perry of Navy is an intriguing prospect because he can play slot WR, RB and QB.”

    If he can play special teams could Perry be the new Jim Jensen?

  29. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    canamdolphin says:
    August 15, 2020 at 12:51 pm
    General fund? What’s wrong with paying social security and medicare through payroll taxes the way it’s always been before Trump
    ___________________________________________________

    This is not currently happening anyway, it will only be taken from the general fund if he is re-elected.

    not sure how the change would be a benefit or a disadvantage.

    not sure where lying comes into play here either, it hasn’t happened.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      “not currently happening anyway”? Are you saying that SSI deductions from pay checks and matches by employers are not going to SSI? I understand that the system is such that must be supplemented, but thought at least that was happening.

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        I would assume that’s happening, a 50/50 split employer/employee, what does that have to do with taking SS from the general fund?

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        I think you misinterpreted my post, taking SS from the general fund is not happening currently

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        You seemed to say that Phillip said in the quoted out portion was not happening. I thought it was…… least before Trump tried to mess with payroll deductions.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Think my take was as presented…..but might have missed the theme upstream. So good with “misinterpreted.” But general fund support will be a fact of life for SSI and Medicare going forward no matter who the Pres is. Unless we bring down the deficit. Way it is.

  30. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Kong – It didn’t get any TV coverage. Not even a mention. If there was it was just a quick mention, not outrage or vitriol if it were to be the other way around, a white man shooting a black child you know what kind of insane over the top reaction that would get regardless if the killer was arrested and hung immediately. They wouldn’t be so eager to say justice was served as that callous heartless fuckface did in that other comment.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Thanks, Mike. I don’t watch network TV, so I kinda thought that might be what you were talking about. I was wanting to understand where you were coming from.

  31. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Rob,

    I’m not upset. That may have been your goal over the last week or so, but believe me when I say you don’t have that ability, lol. If you poke at me, I’ll poke back. If you answer a real question with an emotional response, I’ll point out how you’re being childish. If you act like an adult, I’ll treat you like an adult. If you continue to act like a teenage girl on her period, I’ll treat you like that too 😉

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      I’ve got three kids, two girls, one still a teenager, and I had almost 15 years straight of dealing with teenagers. Nothing you throw at me could possibly upset me, lol.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        One of my old buddy’s twitter profiles: ” I have 3 girls, an awesome wife and a dog…she’s a girl too.”

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        LOL, I can relate. Anyone with kids and difficult teenagers knows exactly what I mean when I laugh about someone trying to troll for anger with juvenile online tactics.

        Nothing you say or do can be meaner than some of things teenage girls say, lol.

  32. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I can’t wait for the NE game, when was the last time a team beat the Pats back to back, never mind at their home, I truly believe we will win that game!

  33. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I’m new to streaming, is there a way to stream Miami games?

  34. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Kong – Like I mentioned it, if the races of the victim and killer were reversed, not only would be there outrage but it would simmer in the news for weeks or months. I guess my feeling is just a quick mention and then bye-bye see-ya doesn’t do it for me. Like I said earlier, social media has really been getting me angry lately, maybe even bottled up rage at some things I see. Sometimes I bite my tongue and move along but lately I’ve been responding to these posts in the hopes that it will stifle my anger. Sometimes it does, and then sometimes even when you spell things out for people they refuse to see it because they don’t like what they see. Ya know, kinda like here. 🙂

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Mike — think we all know that there are hardcore BLM folks out there. I’m thankful for body cams cause otherwise many a police shooting would turn into a national hullabaloo. Same time there are ones to legit protest about….like Floyd.

      Don’t think murders of other kinds should get more attention cause of the races involved though. Where’s the win in that? If that one deserved attention regardless of race…… then it should get it.

  35. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I hear ya, and I can understand that anger. You feel outrage at what you feel is unfair treatment and you’re not alone, but I think in general our white community isn’t outraged by an incident like this and its coverage (or lack of) other than in its tragedy, and that is where the difference lies IMO. If white America was up in arms as a community, then maybe this would get more play, but we don’t come together as a community like that because we don’t have a driving force to bring us together.

    For me your anger perfectly illustrates what I perceive to be the anger in the black community, if you take that anger at years of abuse without ‘coverage’, add it to segregation, Jim Crowe, racism, police brutality, etc all the things that have built up for decades and centuries, and maybe that is a taste of the burning fire that is the black movement in America right now. That is the driving force behind what we’re seeing.

    I’m not trying to minimize what you feel, change your anger, or say you’re wrong about the lack of coverage (which I read as caring). You have every right to be. Reading that story breaks my heart. More so because they had a relationship with the bastard. I think Piggy said it yesterday, there must be some mental health issue, or at least it appears so. And yeah, the media sucks. I don’t know if the media coverage is that way because that is what we force it to be by what we consume, or if it’s that way because that is what they force us to be by what they feed us. I think it’s both, which makes us all culpable IMO.

    Much respect, Brother.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      And I am getting the stink eye from the wife. Sorry to post a potential conversation starter then run, but we’re still doing the flooring thing and have to go to the showroom to look at tile. I’ll be back in an hour or two,

      And Steve, we’re so supssoed to reach 115 on Tuesday, so maybe I do live in a fu%^ing desert, lol.

  36. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I have never been a fan of reading/watching/listening to “the news” from any source. It’s not unbiased, fair reporting and hasn’t been for decades. I’m not sure why anyone is shocked or upset by how it’s done these days. It’s yellow journalism and propaganda pure and simple. There may be a very small corner of the media that sill operates with journalistic integrity but good luck finding it. STOP WATCHING! Lol

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      But if it is “propaganda” then there is a whole bunch of competing propaganda. Where does one find the truth? Cause a whole bunch of people on both sides claim they know it, but they tend to say it is on whatever source they watch. And oddly enough they watch what gives them what they thought to start with.

  37. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Man, sorry I haven’t been able to contribute this morning!

    They were looking for volunteers down at the suppository factory!

    Sizing division! 😉

  38. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    you dont have to watch the news to know what’s up between the left and the right, just watch the congress hearings, that says it all.

  39. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    ocalarob says:
    August 15, 2020 at 1:43 pm
    I can’t wait for the NE game, when was the last time a team beat the Pats back to back, never mind at their home, I truly believe we will win that game!

  40. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I had to destress. No better way to do that (when at work) is a 2021 mock draft. LOL Surtain and Waddle went #5 and #6.

    7 Ja’Marr Chase, WR LSU
    12 Marvin Wilson, IDL Florida State
    39 Walker Little, OT Stanford
    44 Jayson Oweh, EDGE Penn State
    71 Charles Snowden, LB Virginia
    102 Kylin Hill, RB Mississippi State
    134 Quentin Lake, S UCLA
    183 Sam Ehlinger, QB Texas
    187 Matt Bushman, TE BYU

  41. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    stanger,
    I never said it was all the same propaganda. Take your pick! There are plenty of “news sources” out there that will reinforce your opinion….whatever it is.
    ****
    It’s kinda like how folks around here like the Dolphins reporters when they report what they believe and hate them when they don’t. Lol

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Yeah — the one that bugs me the most is “Fake News.” Think these days just means “I don’t agree” even if the news actually wasn’t “fake.” Just maybe more to it. Or maybe just doesn’t match up to what the person wants to hear.

  42. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    75th anniversary of VJ Day

    God bless the great veterans of this country.

  43. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    7 Patrick Surtain II, CB Alabama
    12 Marvin Wilson, IDL Florida State
    39 Walker Little, OT Stanford
    44 Najee Harris, RB Alabama
    71 Charles Snowden, LB Virginia
    102 Chris Rumph II, EDGE Duke
    134 Anthony Schwartz, WR Auburn
    183 Sam Ehlinger, QB Texas
    187 Shawn Davis, S Florida

  44. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f–k things up.” – Barack Obama

  45. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    We haven’t had unbiased reporting since the advent of the 24-hour cable news cycle.

  46. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  47. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Cards finally back to playing ball. After our win in the first game of a doubleheader we’re sitting in 2nd place in the division at 3-3, lol.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Only 1/2 game back in the WC chase. That ain’t right.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Buzkashi?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      “The Reds became the third Major League Baseball team to have games called off because one of its players tested positive for COVID-19.The last two games of a series between the Reds and Pittsburgh Pirates at Great American Ball Park were postponed Saturday. ” — might give the Redbirds a change to get more wins than the Bucs. 🙂

  48. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    After our win in the first game of a doubleheader we’re sitting in 2nd place in the division at 3-3
    —————————————————
    Who’s in 1st? 😉

  49. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  50. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Cards are back, won both games of the double header. After the series final tomorrow against the Whitesox, we play the Cubs 5 times from Monday to Wednesday. That is a big opportunity to get right back into it. We’ve got 11 double headers scheduled in the next month and a half.

  51. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Anyone seen the Yahoo Fantasy Football commercial, with the 3 snowflakes on a hiking trail, that come across a coyote? make better choices is the slogan. Reminds me of college lefties, they need to make better choices too😉

  52. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I think it’s pretty accurate to say that politics have absorbed people in ways I don’t really remember being the case say may a decade or so ago. It’s bizarre to me.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      It’s sad. I don’t know how we find our way back. And I don’t think it matters who wins in November. We already know what it looks like under Trump, and it’s not going to magically get better under a lame duck Biden. There just doesn’t seem to be any way forward to find common ground, and it sure seems like most people don’t even want to.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Sadly I totally agree. That’s why term limits has to become a grass roots movement. Don’t allow politicians to make a multi-decade career out of it. Look at it like a civil service for awhile and move on.

  53. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    So any Dolphins news of significance?

  54. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Thinking about how the dynamics have changed with Grier and Flores who are totally on the same page, think about this. The first thing they did was address the QB position. They moved on from Tannehill, brought in the vet in Fitz who has the right mindset to be that transitional guy, traded a 2nd and 5th for a former #10 pick QB in Rosen the year before, and drafted Tua at #5 after the blow it up season. They immediately tried to increase their odds at QB within two years. How else do you do it?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      That’s it, you must have a QB, or the oddball Ravens or Donkies great D.

      Tua has IT written all over him. You watch his game tape or highlights, it doesn’t matter he’s IT. Watch Burrow or Herbert and they don’t show up on tape.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Burrow had a historic college season, Tua has always had IT – durability is his main con, and Herbert has a big upside. They’re all good QB prospects. Now let’s see how it pans out.

        Like I’ve said before, if Tua gets it early on and he’s good to go, start him sooner than later. He’s the future.

  55. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    I doubt Tua will start this year barring injury.
    Chan Gailey likes Fitzpatrick and is one of the considerations for coming out of retirement. I really think Fitz is Gaileys man to run this offense and i doubt that will change in the near future.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      I think the plan is start and play Fitz but I expect you will see them work Tua into some time on the field so as to give him some experience

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Agreed. Tua is doing everything anyone else is doing on the field. He’s not in a cast or limping around. The franchise wants to get him going as soon as possible. Tua is supposed to be the face of the franchise in the new era. Everyone knows it!

  56. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    It got quiet yesterday evening. I thought the election was over and I missed it. LOL

  57. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I like the addition of Dinson to the Safety group. He actually graded out as the top safety in the SEC last year ahead of McKinney. He is a decent cover safety and a solid tackler. His horrific knee injury in 2016 must have scared a lot of teams. He will have to learn fast if he is going to stick.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yep!

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Last season’s personnel was the equivalent of Flores and crew making banana bread without the bananas and nuts,

      Omar’s version of chix salad out of chix shit

      which explains why the final product was bad, with the Dolphins finishing 2019 as one of the NFL’s worst run defenses, and the worst pass-rushing unit.

      Omar using stats to back his opinion.

  58. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I was thinking about this yesterday. I think Orob brought it up a few days ago. As we get closer to the start of the season, if X is not ready to go, why not give him a 1 year 10 mil deal? Move McCain back to slot. Or, do you think that would impede development of our new DB draftee’s?

    Could Dolphins financially fit free agent Logan Ryan in the picture?

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Slot should mostly be Iggy Mahogany’s domain, I’d like to see a healthy McCain get another shot at safety. On that note though, I do believe all of those guys are going to get reps at a few positions, FS, SS, NB, slot corner, outside corner etc . . .

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      I would be against it. Especially since we don’t know where the cap will be next year. I would rather draft and pay a rookie less than take on a vet and a huge contract. I think with what we did this off season and the way they keep churning the bottom half of the roster has put us in a good position to continue building through the draft.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        I might be open to the idea of picking up a known olineman this way depending on how our line looks this year, but generally speaking I agree with you. It goes against our philosophy.

        If we really don’t like the way 2021 shapes up draftwise, I think a better plan would be to do our best to trade out on a couple of picks to have a more normal draft and build more capital in 2022.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I might think about the Logan Ryan situation from the above article, but I’m not giving up a top 2 round pick and pay a vet big money.

  59. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      He sure looks to be in great shape. His stats last year were impressive for a rookie and he seems to have that drive and love for the game that the greats have.

  60. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  61. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I could see Wilkins as a break out player this year, but we may not notice it in the stats. This system thrives by everyone doing their job, uses players with multiple skills to confuse the O and spreads the stat wealth.

    Stats on the back end tend to be inflated with ints and even sacks, based on what the front 7 does.

  62. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  63. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    MIA VS PATS, 4 WEEKS TO GO

  64. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Interesting postscript to a Phinsider article —

    “Site Management Note-If this post goes off in any political direction the offending commentators will be suspended and all comments to this post will be closed.”

    Guess they don’t play as nice over there as we do. 🙂

  65. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Bryce Sterk was taken by the Bengals and and DB Steven Parker was taken by the Vikes. Glad to see they still have a shot. Also sorta of nice that these days other teams want the guys we cut.

  66. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Social media has really brought out peoples opinions on politics. Just cruise through FB for about 10 minutes and you will see hundreds of memes from both the left and the right. It’s amazing to me how radical some people are. there are things I see from some coworkers I really wish I could unsee. They are so radical left it’s shocking and appalling. I dislike that as much as I do the radical right. I see so many young white women going so over the top for the BLM that it seems like they want to exterminate the white race entirely. I hope they look in the mirror before they press the button though because they’re going right down with me once they do. The fact that they were sympathetic to the BLM won’t matter, it will all be over.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Internet let the common folk speak…. now we get to hear what they have to say. But that part been going on for a while. The other is Trump.

      All the other presidents in our lifetime won and then tried to win over the people who didn’t vote for them. Whether how they saw the job or best way to get re-elected…. what they did. Trump stuck with his base, which divided us.

      And those young white girls going BLM are just the canary in the coal mine. Trump base is older, white and rural. All of those dying breeds, least relatively.

  67. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

    That’s awesome! Much props to Alex Smith!

  68. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    THERE WAS A “30 FOR 30” DOCUMENTARY on Alex Smith’s very long and dangerous road to recovery. Terrific film!! But NOT for those who can’t stand to look at a horrific wound. Hats off to Alex for pulling off a recovery most thought (with good reason) was IMPOSSIBLE!!!
    ————
    WELL my recent good luck with medical issues took a not so good turn last week. One of my surgeons told me I needed double hernia surgery ASAP.!! I’m now convalescing at home under the wonderful care of Mrs. OD. I’ll have a post-op meeting with the surgeon sometime this week. He’ll tell me how many weeks I’ll need to take off work, etc., etc. This means, of course, that I’ll get to see as many playoff hockey games as my bleary eyes can stand for a couple of weeks. This procedure was, and IS, a bit more painful than I thought it would be. But, hell, in a few more weeks I’ll be back to my ornery old self, authenticating coins and working long hours and doing my share of paying my taxes!!
    ———–
    NOTED that Colin Cowherd is picking the Patriots for LAST PLACE IN THE AFC EAST this season!! He picks Buffalo to win this division, with Miami second at 7-9. Barring a bad run of injuries, I believe the Dplphins will have a winning season and a REAL SHOT at a playoff spot.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      Sorry to hear OD – Best wishes to you for a speedy recovery!

      • olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

        THANKS, Mike!! – – I hope you and all the folks up your way have their power back and are fully recovered from that nasty tropical storm.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Getting old sucks OD….. but no one handles it better than you. Double hernia is easier than a Phins owner. 🙂

  69. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Great story that Smith has recovered to this point..
    OD: glad to hear surgery went well, and Go Lightning !!!

  70. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Fantasy Football :
    hey people.. i have sent out an email to last years players in FinsMob Unleashed Fantasy League about this years League..please get back to me whether in or out … Thank you for prompt reply Stanger..

    if there is anyone else who would like to play in a bragging rights league, email me at drp667@hotmail.com..
    Go with the FLO !!!

  71. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Toba – I’m in, but draft would have to be about 9PM if possible, I work till at least 7PM

  72. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Toba – “Going with the Flo” is my team name in 2 different FF leagues

  73. olddolphan's avatar olddolphan says:

    MANITOBA: The two best teams I’ve seen in the Stanley Cup Playoffs so far are Vegas and Philly. But any one of a about 7-8 teams could win it as they are SO EVENLY MATCHED!!
    YOUNG STANGER: One of my surgeons told me my goal of working full time at least until I’m 80 is certainly within my reach. And another of my doctors wants to talk to me about rare coins and bullion!! –Looks like I’m gonna remain busy for quite some time, eh??

  74. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Get better fast OD!!!!!

  75. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    bailbondmike says:
    August 16, 2020 at 1:57 pm
    Orob, was that directed at you. LOL
    ____________________________________

    Hell Yeah, That dude on phinsider had the nerve to tell me he wasn’t voting for Trump!

  76. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Gonna be a fight right away in the Mtl/Philly game

  77. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    VGK loses their first game today. The game winning goal was scored, almost like a corner kick in soccer, when the dumbass goalie tried to save a shot from the corner with his head, resulting in an own goal.

  78. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Blues finally closed out a game. Chance tomorrow to get back to even.

  79. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

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  82. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    is wilkins a bust?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I saw that video he’s basically mocking people for calling DTs a bust after 1 season, when they have no clue how the position works in the NFL.

  83. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  84. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      YES!! Start hitting! Need to get those bodies in football shape while you can!

      • D's avatar D says:

        Actually i see it as the point the body starts to wear down. I mean its good for them to get into the mode where they learn to get the timing down for bracing for contact or rolling with the contact to avoid injury but thats more instinct anyways, not a lot of conditioning needed. IMO the only thing you lose with a no contact PS, is full speed looks, and to me those are very important, the contact really doesn’t do anything for them except put strain on their bodies.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Trust me, i never thought to myself when i got hurt out there on the field, ya know if i had just got hit like this more in practice id be fine lol.

  85. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    • D's avatar D says:

      The really big thing is to stretch and do a lot of that, especially in the early stages. You are probably not getting a full range of motion on the helmet only and/or the helmet and shoulder-pads stuff. You aren’t going full speed. So what it take to stay limber and not get hurt in that scenario is next to nothing, so it sets up bad limbering habits. I dont think lack of contact does much of anything to keep a person from getting injured, its more lack of the accompanying seriousness put towards the limbering and the training. Like id be doing a walk through, then a mild contact then working way to full contact in every practice just to let the ligaments, etc have a chance to limber up. Even at the expense of the time they have for full contact, staging up would be best.

  86. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  87. D's avatar D says:

    You have to think about the thing thats being injured and how. I ligament doesn’t “strengthen” its not a muscle, so its all about how elastic it is. Yo9u get that from slowly stretching and pushing the limits of that elasticity to make it more elastic.

    Think of it as a brand new rubber band that hasn’t been used before. Its really rigid but as you stretch it to its limits a few time slowly, it begins to become more elastic. If you go straight to hitting its limits from a cold start it snaps. Same deal with those tendons and ligaments. Impact from a hit cant help that because every impact from a hit is the super stretch all at once, so these injuries are prevented before contact, before running plays, etc, its in the stretching, etc.

    Its also likely to happen anyways, no matter the amount of contact, no matter the stretching, sometimes you just exceed the limits of the tendon or its binding to the bone and you get a tear. Contact cant physically help you prepare better, it really only helps you get a fee for full speed and adjustments that are made so you aren’t caught off guard and have a major stretching of those ligaments from not absorbing the impact of a hit.

  88. D's avatar D says:

    steveccnv says:
    August 17, 2020 at 10:10 am

    I saw that video he’s basically mocking people for calling DTs a bust after 1 season, when they have no clue how the position works in the NFL.
    ———————————————————————-
    I also would say thats true at any year. Watching the stats of a DT is a horrible metric, you have to read between the lines, but if your run defense is good, and you are flushing QB’s to the outside you have a good DT, and a good 3 down DT. He doesnt have to make the sack, but the sack number will probable be pretty good since the cleanest way a QB can escape pressure and not step right into it is stepping forward int he pocket, no place to step forward meas tuck and run or flush right into your DE’s as long as they arent getting blown out by the OT’s.

    DT’s could have low tackle numbers, because they clog up the middle and force the RB to kick it out, or choose another gap where the LB’s are waiting, these are by play design a lot of time. Its nto all a life of shooting the gap and making the play for a good DT, and its unfortunate that a lot of the better DT’s get applauded when a lot of times they can be the cause of a major play breakdown because they were trying to be the play maker and not the support teammate needed on that particular play.

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