Injuries and cuts reshape Dolphins roster

When I first heard the news that the Dolphins waived/injured our 5th RD pick Curtis Weaver I was furious. Sometimes I can’t help myself, I think “same old Dolphins”. I thought for $670K we could have put the kid on I/R and next year we’d have ready to go and see what he can do. Take a look at the picture up above, the dude is flexing and my modest biceps are bigger than that dudes, he looks soft. Still, Weaver was productive and many draft experts gave us high marks on that pick, a great value in the 5th RD. The Browns, who claimed Weaver have put him on I/R. To be fair, I thought Flores looked especially and unusually uncomfortable when asked about Curtis Weaver. Flores is pretty quick and direct and during the interview, he labored to answer why Weaver was cut which leads me to think there’s something more than we may ever find out. In any case, Weaver is a Brown now and you know what that means to me. (I’ll spare you the expletives)

Kalen Ballage’s career as a Miami Dolphin is also over. He leaves much like one other promising RB draft pick of the past left, in disappointing fashion. Daniel Thomas never fulfilled his potential and Kalen Ballage who I once thought could be our version of David Johnson “light” yet turned out to be David Johnson 20,000,000 gallons of helium. So with the waiving of Curtis Weaver and then the release of Kalen Ballage, the Dolphins signed DB Deatrick Nichols and claimed RB Salvon Ahmed, a former Washington Husky RB. I can’t blame Kalen Ballage completely because our organization doesn’t have a ton of cred evaluating RB’s. We traded away Ajayi (Gase), we traded away Kenyan Drake (who is flourishing with the Cards) and now gave up on Kalen Ballage. If Ballage does well elsewhere, that will amp up this feeling.

The camp battles so far are encouraging. Big Robert Hunt and Solomon Kindley are making noise, winning some battles and losing others but making a splash nonetheless. I like that last years 3rd RD pick Michael Deiter is getting a lot of reps at center and is most likely being groomed as the replacement for Ted Karras who is here on a 1 YR show me contract. I can actually see light at the end of the tunnel with this O-line. Eventually, I see Jackson – Flowers – Deiter – Kindley – Hunt, or maybe Jesse Davis continues his elevated play at RT and holds off Hunt and Hunt moves inside to RG and then Kindley is a very nice depth player to have. The QB’s have all had ups and downs and rookie phenom Tua Tagovailoa is not immune to that. This is expected, anyone who thought Tua was just going to ride onto the field on a unicorn and throw rainbow TD’s every throw was due for disappointment. He’s just getting started and I’m sure there is a lot the kid is trying to absorb at this point. He’s got talent, let him get up to speed. Honestly, I expect some play from mostly everyone with the limited amount of work players and coaches are able to get in. Hopefully as the season progresses, things will look better. If that happens, that’s a good thing. I think teams that have mostly the same personnel and coaches back have a clear advantage over teams with many new p-layers, new coaches and new systems. The Dolphins check all of those boxes so keep your early expectation low.

GO DOLPHINS!!

#staythecourse

This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink.

1,714 Responses to Injuries and cuts reshape Dolphins roster

  1. Mike E. says:

    Piggy – Wouldn’t it be some shit if they said George Floyd died of COVID-19?

  2. steveccnv says:

    Kyle Crabbs, reports like he has crabs, says:

    Rosen’s big arm would be featured quite well in Bruce Arians’ vertical passing attack and for the first time in the NFL, Rosen would actually be throwing to top notch targets.

    So Parker and Preston aren’t top targets?

  3. Mike E. says:

    Steve – They did say Floyd tested positive for COVID-19 but it wasn’t listed as the cause of death, nor was the fentanyl which he was loaded on. They pick and choose when COVID-19 is an influence and that’s what makes it all a joke

    • stangerx says:

      You got me to look it up — he had tested positive almost 2 months before. They found evidence of it from a nasal swab but the ME said that is typical of someone who had either recovered or was asymptomatic. Given that not sure how any doc could point to it as a cause.

      • Mike E. says:

        Look up how much fentanyl he was on and how his lungs were swollen 3 times their normal size as long as you’re in the researching mood.

      • stangerx says:

        I caught he had fentanyl in his system. He could have died because of it far as I know. Just didn’t get why Covid was pertinent for anyone of either side. But whatever his condition the cops handled it wrong….. why they got charged.

  4. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – My point is Tom Seaver had so many serious ailments, the largest being the dementia, but they have to list COVID-19 as the cause because it makes them feel better to add to the total. Nothing like padding numbers I say!

    • stangerx says:

      I don’t know enough about Seaver’s condition to comment one way or the other. But am curious as to who is “they.” Can guarantee though that my Mom had severe dementia but it was the cancer that killed her. If she had Covid at the end would still say the same. But if she’d died say 4 months before maybe would have been a judgment call.

      But like said don’t know enough about Seaver to make those calls.

      • Mike E. says:

        I find it curious because he was basically in seclusion, he wasn’t out in the public anymore, he stayed home. It’s odd that he would contract COVID-19.

  5. wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    7m
    Today’s Austin Jackson presser was brought to you by ice cream.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    6m
    I submitted to the panel…. chocolate devotion from cold stone.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    8m
    Austin Jackson on facing Shaq Lawson:

    “He’s a great rusher. He’s been around the league for a while. He’s good at randomly pulling tools out of the tool box. Randomly throwing different things at me has helped me get better.”
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    12m
    Biggest thing for Austin Jackson, he says, was picking up the playbook he says. Making sure his technique is consistently specific to the play called. Just doing it over and over and over again so it became muscle memory.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    10m
    He said, just so we’re clear.

    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    12m
    Austin Jackson doesn’t mess with cookies and cream or strawberry ice cream — chocolate and vanilla guy.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    21m
    Eric Rowe says he’s getting a good feel for reading tackle or guard pulls. Say it’ll help to see some live action but with practice and the scrimmage he’s feeling better with fitting the run each day.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    25m
    “He’s got an arm. Zip on the ball. Throughout camp he’s gotten a lot better with his eyes.”

    Eric Rowe on what makes Tagovailoa hard to defend.

  6. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – I think it’s very arbitrary, I think they attribute COVID-19 whether it was the cause or not to add to the numbers, following a certain agenda. It doesn’t matter because if they’re dead they’re dead, but who’s going to check and see if it was correct or not. It’s like no one died of a car accident or a gunshot or a lightning strike, they all died from COVID.

    • stangerx says:

      Why does the doc who calls time of death or the ME, if one, care about adding to the numbers or following an agenda? That’s the part I don’t get. Talking tens of thousands of docs and thousands of hospitals in both blue states and red.

      • steveccnv says:

        They count it as covid, because they get paid more money to do so.

      • stangerx says:

        So listing Covid as a cause of death gets a hospital more money? Just not true my friend. Having a Covid may under certain federal reimbursement programs (and they would have already tested), but not as a cause of death….. and that is the subject.

  7. wyoming85 says:

  8. The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t think it’s random to call some ones death who had other ailments covid related. Covid is obviously going to make things worse and harder to treat and Less likely to survive something. It’s certainly a factor if some one dies who had it

    If an obese person had a heart attack, people note the obesity. That’s not new. Trying to bifurcate every ailment so that we can downplay a deadly virus – that’s new!

    There are things that make other ailments worsen. There always have been. Blood pressure goes up bc of stress. HIV patients who catch the flu are more likely to die. This didn’t start with covid. It’s always the way we’ve treated health

    I’m a little surprised that people are still insisting on downplaying covid given how wrong so many people have been on the subject after downplaying it before

    I mean if you want to argue that the cause of death shouldn’t be listed as covid, that’s reasonable

    But people have been saying how vulnerable the elderly and sick were to covid since January. It should not be news to anyone that people who have it and die also have other ailments and are elderly

    If you beleive it’s either covid or something else, and you have to pick one – that’s a nice belief to have
    It’s actually silly imo and contempt why inconsistent with how medical professional approach health – but, if you insist, go for it

    It doesn’t matter if you are dead to draw these kind of distinctions

    • stangerx says:

      Pig — I just can’t figure out why Covid as a medical condition has become a political issue. But guess at first it was a hoax, then it was just like the flu and now just way overblown. Same folks saying each every step along the way.

      To me it is an illness, and a scary one.

    • steveccnv says:

      Everything you said was perfectly reasonable, you just didn’t mention the other side to it, and that’s the side that we’re talking about.

      They also count people that are asymptomatic, but have contracted it, and people that have mininal symptoms.

      The reason it’s become political is, because people like Joe Biden keep lying about how bad trump has handled it and are trying to use it against him.

      • stangerx says:

        But is the fact that it has been political a reason to fight the science? Folks out there refusing to wear masks. Need for that is indisputable. Open up the economy or not…. that is fairly debatable.

      • steveccnv says:

        They’re both debatable.

  9. Mike E. says:

    That’s exactly what I’m saying, the cause if death shouldn’t be COVID-19.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Oh I have a pretty good sense of why it became a political issue. I’m sure people don’t need three guess to know who I blame for that…but that’s not worth exploring here unless I want to argue about it for the next 4 hours

      But I agree with you. It shouldn’t be, it’s a serious illness and should be treated that way and until it is – it’s going to be a problem

  10. Mike E. says:

    Stanger, I don’t believe the Coroners or METS have an agenda, they’re being instructed to inflate the numbers. Is that do far fetched? They want to make something thats not dangerous to 99.7% of the population seem more dangerous

    • Mike E. says:

      not Mets, medical examiners

    • stangerx says:

      Happening in red states and blue. An there is a ME in each county in the country. Who is behind this?

      • steveccnv says:

        OMG, when you list the death as covid you get more money from the fed govt.

      • stangerx says:

        OMG steve — I think reimbursement payments for a Covid patient are higher in certain situations (mainly depending on the fed gov paying) but that cause of death has nothing to do with it. But you are so sure the death certificate matters….. why and under what insurance program? Maybe your sources are different than mine.

    • steveccnv says:

      Who is thriving from this? Jeff Bezos, Amazon stock has almost doubled. Why do they love this billionaire, if they really care about lower class people? Money talks.

  11. The Flying Pig says:

    Mike

    I have no problem with that point of view

    But I think it’s pretty irrelevant to anything other that what is listed on the death certificate and any life insurance claims by his family

    If some one which Covid died, I think we should be aware of that to determine how serious to take the illness rather than arguing to what degree it affected the death or whether it was inevitable without Covid

    • steveccnv says:

      Exactly, but as they always do the dems are politicizing it.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        your conclusions are much different than mine

        I think it’s been mishandled
        And i think the driving force to wanting to put the death in question is the trump campaign
        And I think trump is afraid to answer to how badly it’s been mishandled

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Democrats and Republicans are antagonistic to one another
        If one side is pushing one way, you can bet the other is pushing the other way

        But this isn’t a question that one of us convinces the other to be right or wrong – That’s politics

        I don’t want to spend the next few hours before a three day weekend talking about it – so I was trying (when I posted the above) to avoid blaming any political lightning rods

  12. The Flying Pig says:

    When AIDs was a public health crisis, the amount of people who actually died fro pneumonia was very high bc the aids virus was hurt white blood cell production and affecting the ability to defend against pneumonia among other things

    People started using condoms (and I bet some people even abstained 😬) bc we acknowledged AIDs was a health crisis and that helped us control it

  13. The Flying Pig says:

    Steve

    I don’t think it’s a secret to the left or the right that people who have contracted it have lived.

    But why is that so important to promote over and over again. Do we say, “hey some one had sex and they didn’t get aids”. That’s not a good approach to public health. You don’t need to downplay the risks.

  14. Mike E. says:

    Piggy – I think a big part of it is keeping the economy down. Let’s be honest, NY and NJ should be open at far more than 20% in restaurants. It’s insane! How long can businesses last this way? The economy is being strangled. It’s not corporations suffering, it’s mom and pop restaurants that won’t be able to last. It’s Cuomo and his NJ counterpart Murphy that are keeping things shut down? Why? Are they going to wait a year until a safe vaccine is out? Open the fuck up already! Look at all these bars and pubs that are going to go out. It’s a damn shame

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t know if you have seen the latest but they are opening malls now

      But they (Cuomo) havent given the green light on indoor dining and he is blaming de Blasio for failing to enforce Covid restrictions – so it’s a mess right now

      I sW a post on twitter asking people of restaurants opened now – would they dine in and a lot of people said “no” and I was surprised

      I represent a lot of small businesses including restaurants and I will tell you, at every level, federal, state and city I have a lot of problems with how everything has been handled from start to now in terms of opening….but like I said. I’m closing shop for the three day weekend

  15. steveccnv says:

    Its amazing how blame is passed, yet mostly covid is handled at the local levels. Fed level has more to do with the vaccine and testing availibility.

    • stangerx says:

      So you thinking the pathetic US response to Covid should be blamed on the states and localities? That is one of my options for it along with the American people being too headstrong to follow common sense advice from the CDC.

  16. stangerx says:

    Pig — the science has said outdoor dining presents like one-sixth the risk or something. Lots of places around here have adjusted to that . And we can keep up with that….. but fall is coming for you guys.

    • Mike E. says:

      Yes, the fall is coming and soon outdoor dining won’t be feasible? Then what? Just say fuck all those people who own restaurants and bars? Sounds like a great plan

      • stangerx says:

        The people who make the rules know that as well. They are in a good starting place though as well as the tri-state area is sitting right now in terms of Covid. Best place in the country to be.

  17. CavalierKong says:

    When I think of the economy, I think of my paycheck and my retirement portfolio. Both of those important things are doing fantastic, so I think the economy is doing just fine.

    It could be said this is a rather narcissistic way of viewing things, but nobody is complaining, or at least nobody worth talking about.

  18. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – It’s not the best place to be if you own a restaurant or a bar. We’re beyond the point where we need to keep it down because the hospitals are overwhelmed. We should have been open most of the summer. Now it will be fall soon and all these restaurants that invested in tents to make outdoor dining possible are going to get crushed again if they don’t open up to t least 50% capacity. No one is going to make anyone go to a crowded restaurant, one always has the option not to go in. What’s the holdup?

    • stangerx says:

      There will be new rules…. how could there not be? Whether the eating places are happy with them have no clue. Get they are covid strict up your way, but then benefit is you guys are covid-light too. Our Gov seemed to want to do everything he could to make our place explode and it did. What do I know?…. not much except opening the bars a bad idea. Maybe with an early closing time.

  19. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – I think they should have been open inside 20% and outside as much as they can for a few months now. Now opening up at 20% is kinda like a slap in the face. I do realize you have nothing to do with this, just venting my frustration at the way both Cuomo and Murphy have chosen to handle this.

  20. bailbondmike says:

    Our restaurants have been at 50% for quite a long time (some push it even more) with no issues. Don’t see what the problem is. Hell, the hotel the wife and I stayed at Wednesday had outdoor dinning with tables 6 ft apart but every table was full. People were walking around without masks. Only saw one couple walk in with masks out of about 30-35 people. They took them off when they sat down and never put them back on even when leaving. The servers and bar tenders weren’t even wearing masks. None of the hotel staff wore masks. Went to a breakfast place the next morning. Staff did not wear masks and not one customer who walked in wore one. Felt like normal times. I am telling you, they are over it down here especially at the beach.

    • bailbondmike says:

      That breakfast place was my favorite! The best breakfast burrito’s. It was the hot pressed burrito with steak, onions, peppers, cheese, hash browns and 2 eggs over medium with a spicy dipping sauce and gouda grits with chopped green onion on the side chased with a virgin bloody Mary (had to drive home). Felt good all day yesterday after a hard day/night drinking the day before.

    • stangerx says:

      Sounds like you guys had a good time. I’m sorta of a mask guy, but if the local rules allow they do. Sorta of hoping Covid goes away though.

  21. son of a son of a shula says:

    In that Marino 5 TD game the return from the Achilles injury he completed 23 passes for 473 for an astounding 20.6 yards per completion.

  22. steveccnv says:

    Last Friday went to a casino, ordered a beer and was drinking it, but apparently wasn’t doing it properly. Was told by staff I needed to put my mask back on when I wasn’t actually drinking it. Was supposed to take a sip, then put mask on, rinse and repeat.

  23. stangerx says:

    Trump yesterday said the key thing to do in the next election is vote twice. Don’t worry about it being a felony.
    ———————————————–
    “What you have to do is send in your early ballot and then go and make sure that ballot is tabulated or counted, and if it’s not counted, vote. And then they have the job, if it comes in late, or if it’s not too late, they have the job of making sure that it’s not counted.”

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      He NEVER said to vote twice, he said if the mail in didn’t reflect on the voter roll on Election Day to vote in person and that would supersede the mail in making it not count.
      I thought it was really pretty simple to understand.
      I love voting in person on Election Day and I show my ID every time. I feel so patriotic every time it’s a beautiful thing.

      • stangerx says:

        When you send your mail in ballot in you have voted. When you vote at the polls after that…. you have voted twice. It’s a crime in most states.

  24. bailbondmike says:

    Stanger, I wear a mask at work when a customer is at my desk and when I go to the jail. I also wear one when going shopping. We did take our masks when we stayed at the beach but they never left the car.

  25. bailbondmike says:

    Why does the Dolphins website still have Ballgag on it?

  26. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Every other table seems safe enough. Again, if someone isn’t comfortable going then they can abstain. We can’t live in a bubble forever. We have to start opening up before it’s really too late for all those business owners.

  27. bailbondmike says:

    I almost forgot about DE Tyshun Render. He was the one we stole from Bellicheat after he did a private workout with him standing in the rain at Middle Tenn State. LOL

    I have not heard his name this TC but he is still on the roster and could be they were favoring him over Weaver anyway. He may not make the 53 but hope he clears waivers and ends up on PS if not the 53. I think Bellicheat might try to get the last laugh and steal him away.

    I like the play at the 3:14 mark.

  28. bailbondmike says:

    Son, I didn’t miss that. LOL I remember Hal Morris in the 90’s. He was actually my second fav 90’s player behind Barry Larkin. He was a steady hitter. He might have gotten bumped down farther on my 90’s fav list had Paul O’Neil or Even Chris Sabo not left.

  29. olddolphan says:

    TEST

  30. olddolphan says:

    TWO DAYS of repairs on my old computer finally seems to have worked.

    • wyoming85 says:

      You doing ok OD?
      And by that I meant is Mrs. OD doing ok! 😉

      • olddolphan says:

        WYOMING: Mrs. OD has good days and not so good days. She REALLY relies on me to do certain things. That’s why I have to be so careful not to catch the Covid.

        As for me, I feel much improved over a couple of weeks ago. My surgeon says I’m well enough to mow the lawn. So-o-o, come 8:30 AM, I’ll be cranking up the mower. I’m tired of having a lady down the street mow the lawn for me!!

        Thanks for your concern. I am eagerly awaiting the start of the NFL season!!

        But, until then, I’ll remain deeply immersed in the NHL Playoffs.

  31. wyoming85 says:

  32. pheloniusphish says:

    Damn ape stealing from Hitchhiker’s Guide….what is the world coming to?

  33. bailbondmike says:

    Is cutdowns 4pm eastern?

  34. wyoming85 says:

    I can not understand this stuf!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Lots of people are baffled by this new way of thinking. I don’t give a shit about party politics. Morals and ethics are a different story.

      I’m sorry, but too many Democrats are justifying nonsense and violence. I’m sick of hearing about peaceful BLM protests. It’s well beyond that. That was months ago, it’s an all out rioting situation now and anyone who doesn’t see that has their head buried in the sand up to their ass.

  35. wyoming85 says:

    WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!7

  36. son of a son of a shula says:

    Well now I feel foolish for saying we could get something really good for Rosen just yesterday. My thinking was that he would hold a roster spot waiting for a team in need. However I have been pretty much all along saying that he was a cheap 1 year backup and no matter what happened with him we got what we needed out of him and were able to truly evaluate him. Circumstances seem to have undercut him at every turn but there’s got to be more and it has to be his demeanor/personality as an equal ingredient. That arm with spunk, charisma call it whatever you want doesn’t get brushed aside twice in such a short period of time.
    Douchebag couldn’t even hold on to a roster spot and made me look foolish.
    “He is what we said he was” (speaking of rephrasing)
    Hell of a lot cheaper than Cutler was

    • Tim Knight says:

      Rosen was a shot in the dark and they don’t believe in him. People act like a 2nd and 5th for him was the end of the world. Is it? No it’s not! We had three 1st round picks and two 2nd round picks in 2019 – landing “Tank for Tua” at #5 but the narrative switched to we missed out on Joe Burrow. When does it end? Neither guy has done a thing in the NFL.

  37. olddolphan says:

    Rookie Vancouver goalie Thatcher Demko has stopped the last 103 of Vegas’ last 104 shots on goal since he took over the starter’s spot for the Canucks, who were down 3 games to 1 to the Golden Knight’s. It’s an absolutely AMAZING story for this kid who WAS tending goal for Utica in the AHL not too long ago! Vegas absolutely has the better team. But, so far tonight, Vegas has again been thwarted by this “kid from nowhere!”

  38. Tim Knight says:

    OD, game 7 Flyers/Islanders – who do you like? It’s been great competitive hockey between two good teams.

    • olddolphan says:

      TIM; As all these close games indicate, these two teams are VERY evenly matched. But, in a Game 7 environment, I’ve always leaned to two things. 1) Which team has the best goal tender? By a cat’s whisker, I’ll give the edge to Varlamov and the Islanders. 2) Which team has the best coach? NO CONTEST HERE! Barry Trotz, who won a Stanley Cup with the Capitals (then was offered an insulting offer to come back) will soon win ANOTHER STANLEY CUP, MAYBE THIS YEAR! Trotz is the best coach in the NHL. But he can’t play defense; and he can’t score goals! IF someone for Philly has an extraordinary evening, the Flyers will win. But my money is on the Islanders.

  39. ElephantRider says:

    Mike E

    Appreciate you thinking about us small business owners that have gotten the shaft.
    Look at these European countries exploding with Covid after hardcore lockdowns…..seems kinda pointless now doesn’t it.

    Also, I got covid few weeks back. No clue where from. Was sick, just like flu, had fever and felt like shit for a week. Lost my sense of smell too. That hasn’t come back, but everything else seems fine. Guess what though, masks work. No other employee or anyone in my family got it. Super weird.

    My thought is everybody is gonna get it at some point. Nothing can do but slow it down a bit. It seems to be getting weaker which is good. Hopefully everything will be back to normal next summer.

    • Mike E. says:

      I kind of feel the same way ER. It seems like unless people are just going to stay inside the rest of their lives, they’re going to get it at some point. Opening to 20% capacity inside just doesn’t cut it. When it’s fall and it’s cold and no one will sit outside, you may as well as let the fucking looters come and finish the job because restaurants and bars are all going to die. Again, just because a restaurant is open, no one is making people go in there. If you don’t feel safe, don’t go out. On the other hand, let people who do want to go out do so and live their lives as they please. We don’t the government controlling us.

      BTW, that looting law is seriously fucked! That is some of the scariest shit I’ve ever seen. Only the Democrats . . . My father who was a staunch Democrat for many many years and big supporter of the party, he was extremely involved in the local Democratic club and helped many a candidate get elected. He is probably rolling over in his grave over that one though. It’s unfathomable!

      • Tim Knight says:

        Your Dad was probably an old school Democrat, likely a JFK guy. That’s not what they are anymore. That’s long gone. They are now a lunatic party and most people see it. Except for people who hate Trump so much they can’t see the forest for the trees. It’s absurd.

  40. pheloniusphish says:

    I’ve had 265+ employees at ten airports (including two in FL) working through the whole COVID ordeal. Had maybe six test positive. None reported being any sicker than the flu, all recovered. Anybody who doesn’t have natural immunity is going to get it at some point. People with serious underlying conditions and autoimmune disorders need to be more careful.

      • ElephantRider says:

        I just want to smell again. Lol

        This whole thing has been made political and it’s a damn shame. This country is screwed…for at least the next term regardless who wins.
        Fuck it.
        “I’m gonna get my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames”

    • steveccnv says:

      I don’t agree that everyone, not autoimmune will get it, besides a vaccine I just don’t see that happening. It also wasn’t the case with other pandemics, unless of course something like 60% can’t get it, which would kind of in itself makes the phrase everyone not autoimmune meaningless.

      I had it in April, or at least was a carrier, didn’t feel much from it at all, didn’t miss any work, but did pass it along in the house.

  41. Mike E. says:

    Tim – That’s pretty much it. He was definitely ma JFK guy and was loyal to his party until the end. For all I know he may have stayed a Democrat but things that we’re seeing and hearing today he would not want to be a part of for sure. It’s shocking. Some of these lawmakers and those of the socialist left are so much more dangerous than Trump ever was, is, or will be.

  42. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, I’ll say this! There is no way I will support Biden and that party ilk. It’s like voting for a dead worm after a rain storm. That’s the conversation you get with them. It’s beyond absurd.

  43. ocalarob says:

    The left has gone too far for the purpose of gaining power, Instead of focusing on what can help this country they just participate in a smear campaigns and go to great lengths to get power. RIOTS & DEATH! they disregard what the people want thru dishonest means of spying on their opponent, they do nothing to stop the riots. the hard left are a group of dishonest people, it’s not that hard to figure out by their actions. if they win this country will go to shit!

    • steveccnv says:

      What makes them so dangerous is the way they’ve brainwashed the kids and use the media to perpetuate the lies, even though people see it with their own eyes.

      In the past, when something absurd was done, the media actually did their job and spread it nation wide, but that doesn’t happen any longer, at least not when the left does it.

      Look at any interview on YouTube done on college campuses from someone on the right, and you can see the look in their eyes, that maybe what they’ve been told has another side.

  44. ocalarob says:

    the thing is you want to avoid covid until there’s a vaccine or good treatment for it, getting it now is life threatening.

    • Mike E. says:

      Life threatening for those with conditions that might make it so, but not for close to 99% of the people. Those with conditions should always stay careful but the rest of the population need to be able to open up so they can stay in business.

  45. ocalarob says:

    roster spots are valuable, i believe that’s why Rosen will be waived

    • steveccnv says:

      But you can’t put all of your eggs into this year’s basket. Next year we’ll need a backup, and I’d feel better about having Rosen over most others.

      Now, if they feel they can bring in a vet or Rosen has said, he doesn’t want to be a career backup, then you’ve gotta cut him loose.

      • Mike E. says:

        There’s a way Rosen can be more than just a backup, it’s called attitude change and playing better than the competition. He thinks he’s great, his play needs to match his confidence

  46. steveccnv says:

    OD, I hope we meet in the finals, and have, since the restart.

  47. steveccnv says:

    Reports from Herald we’ve only got 5 more to cut. Rosen is one of them no shockers yet. Render, Merritt, Calhoun and Cole are on the list.

  48. days64 says:

    Im a democrat, have been my whole life. I live in Southern Indiana, rural white mainly. I was raised to be tolerant. I once used the “N” word as a child in front of my Mother, and she slapped me right across the mouth as quickly as the word came out. Most of the people around here are racist, though most will never admit to it. My son in law is an Indiana State Trooper, One Daughter is a Family Practitioner, One son served two tours in Afghanistan, in Charka. My other Son is a Fire Chief, My other Daughter is a recovering addict. I love them all equally.
    Becareful praising republician virtues, and disrespecting democratic values. I raised my kids to be Americans, not dems or reps. I care about this country, which will still be here long after all of us. Hopefully we will get through this ugly partisan bullshit someday soon, and begin a new brighter future. I never dreamed my country could become so divided, with Hope and Faith maybe our Country can come together like none of us can dream of now.
    God Bless America,
    Go Dolphins
    Coexist, and Respect each other.

    • Krishna says:

      Don’t know who you are, but thanks for your comment.

      A breath of fresh air.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      The Democratic party leadership has thrown their support behind criminals, anarchists, and socialists. That is today’s Democratic National platform. It may not be yours as a lifetime democrat, but that is for you to decide. It will be up to the democratic constituency to decide whether they will choose country over party. I’m not saying they should vote for Trump, but they shouldn’t vote blindly for Biden either.

      • Krishna says:

        Perfectly divisive. Yay!

      • pheloniusphish says:

        What are you even talking about, Krishna?

      • Krishna says:

        Your first 3 sentences are more divisive rhetoric, pp. I presume you missed days64’s point. I find it impossible to believe only one side is at fault and the accuracy and validity your comment is questionable.

        All I did was agree with a poster’s comment. You proved his point, imo. Understand?

    • steveccnv says:

      I agree, can’t believe I’m writing this, with Krishna a breath of fresh air.

      When I talk about dems, I’m generally talking about the politicians and mostly those in Washington.

      I’m sure many people identified as dems, including those on this board, have good democratic values, but that’s where it stops. What democratic values do you believe the dem politicians have? Please take into account their actions and not their words, because all politicians talk BS.

      I don’t see how any dem politician, at least not with any power, can say they have good dem values, when they allow the looting, burning and rioting to continue. Please explain how that’s possible. You could say, well it’s the govs and mayors, but we all know they get their agenda from the top of the party, verified by their unison.

  49. steveccnv says:

    ^

    I don’t care who anyone votes for either, just make an informed decision, one that works for you. Actions over words.

  50. olddolphan says:

    TIM KNIGHT: ANSWER for your hockey question is up the page below your 10:35 PM post. Hope you enjoy it.

    • steveccnv says:

      Hard to argue that post OD. The VGK game last night was lost before it started mostly, because of a coaching decision to play not to lose. Vancouver played like a world cup soccer underdog team, that’s goal was to keep everyone back as much as possible. A tactic used by teams with large leads, and not one doing it from the start.

      It may have worked in spots the previous game, but to do it back to back games was asking too much.

    • olddolphan says:

      STEVE: I THINK The Golden Knights should be the clear favorites to win the Stanley Cup. I don’t think the Lightning, Flyers or Islanders are as strong from top to bottom as are The Knights (who should beat Dallas in 5 or 6 games).

      However, with that said, both TB and the NYI have proven head coaches and outstanding goal tending. The Finals will be either 6 or 7 close, competitive games.

  51. Mike E. says:

    Days – Thanks for your viewpoint. I don’t subscribe blindly to anything the Republican party says or does but right now, to me at least, it’s clear that the majority of their views are closer to my own. The Democrats are now radicalizing and becoming a socialist party which I have no interest in supporting. I was a Democrat for many years as I explained about my parents earlier. This is not the same party, not even close. I’m sure most Democrats don’t subscribe to everything the Democrats do or say either but there seems to be no middle ground to be found. I suppose that having another viable party would change that because they may offer an alternative, but until then . . .

  52. Ken says:

    Nobody believed me when I said Rosen won’t be on the roster opening day. See Hulk know things

  53. steveccnv says:

    OD, after the loss in 2018 to the Caps, VGK changed course from a fast team to a more well rounded team with size and physicality. The Caps won, because they pushed the Knights around, that doesn’t happen any longer.

  54. Mike E. says:

    Ken – I’m surprised they cut Rosen. I guess Fitzpatrick is in the plans for longer than just this season or Rosen has just been so disappointing that it doesn’t even matter, they just don’t want him. I didn’t expect that to be the case. I figured at worst if Fitz was just going to finish out this season that Rosen could compete with Tua next year or at least be his backup.

  55. Mike E. says:

    I was thinking about that woman who wants to enact the looting law. Maybe they can have a Medicaid “L” plan which allows looting every other Thursday of the month at specially chosen retail outlets.

  56. New Age says:

    I read somewhere that Rosen was the slowest at reading a defense out of the 3 QBs. Not saying it’s true but it would explain things. He hasn’t had a ton of time to learn it but if Tua is already better at it, I can see why he was released. Pretty important skill for a QB.

  57. pheloniusphish says:

    Krishna – I’m not going down your rabbit hole today. The cat doesn’t have anywhere near enough drugs for that. But feel free to tell us why the first sentence was wrong. Through their inaction, actions, and words, the democrats have endorsed looting and rioting (anarchy) over criminals getting themselves shot/killed/hurt resisting arrest (Kamala Harris donated bail money). The fab four, plus Bernie are self avowed socialists and they are embraced by the party leadership.

    See I don’t believe that everybody who is a democrat supports that kind of failure to lead. I believe the majority do not. You do…you have as much as said so. So if that divides you, so be it.

    • New Age says:

      Every city that had widespread rioting and looting was run by Democrats. Ted Wheeler only started to care about the law when they started to ‘protest’ in front of his condo. Dem politicians have run NYC, Baltimore, Portland, Minneapolis, etc for years and those are all of the highest crime areas today. Run down cities with huge wealth disparity, massive slums, high crime, everything bad you can think of.

      I can understand hating Trump. I voted Dem in elections more than Republican but I can’t understand supporting where the DNC has gone. They support the worst, most abhorrent ideas I’ve ever seen. Look at California pushing for judges to allow lighter sentences for pedophiles. Look at leftist writers pushing pedophilia. How can people support this? Trump is just four more years of you not getting your way. The other option is the destruction of the traditional values of our Republic. Can people really support that?

    • steveccnv says:

      That first sentence is a fact, whether directly or indirectly, and as you said, inaction or action…

  58. bailbondmike says:

    I voted for Bill Clinton as a registered Dem first time he ran. Regretted it later and reregistered as independent since.

  59. wyoming85 says:

    Finally!!!!! 😉

  60. wyoming85 says:

    Kamu Grugier-Hill Saturday 9/5 media availability thread
    12:05 PM · Sep 5, 2020·Twitter Web App
    4
    Likes
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    15m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    “This is a passing league, you’ve gotta be able to play man coverage.”
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    15m
    Says he didn’t know Tua before he got here but the two of them hit it off. “It’s nice to have someone here that grew up the same way I did.”
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    14m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    KGH on what about this scheme excites him the most.

    “Diversity. Being able to play so many different positions. You’re doing different things in different situations. It keeps things fun, exciting and we ultimately keep people surprised.”
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    13m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    He reiterates that the diversity of the defense was a big reason he signed here in free agency.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    13m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Says Coach Campanile brings a family atmosphere to the LB room… coach had famously talked about the Sunday dinners he had growing up back home in Jersey.

  61. wyoming85 says:

    I’m so jealous of Herd right now!
    Marshal Football is on!!!!!!!!!!!!

  62. stangerx says:

    By getting cut — Rosen is entering Ryan Leaf territory. Every team knows every other team wasn’t willing to give up anything for him on a relatively cheap contract. But there still could be a come back story.

  63. stangerx says:

    Pats released Lamar Miller.
    Maybe the former Dolphin magic only works for them if the guy comes straight from us. 🙂

  64. olddolphan says:

    KEN, Mike E., Piggy, etc.; —You guys may remember my immediate reaction when the Fins acquired Rosen. It went something like this: “PIGGY, He’s Dogshit!! He CAN’T start and perform at a high level in the NFL. I repeat, Rosen is DOGSHIT!!!”
    ——–
    Understandably, pigs was a bit put off by that. But I’d seen Rosen play in about 4 games his last year at UCLA. In 3 of them, he stunk up the joint!! – – And we’re talkin’ about the friggin PAC-12, not the ACC or the SEC!!! The FIRST THING I NOTICED about him was the time it took him to decide who to throw to and then get rid of the ball. Let’s put it this way. He wasn’t even close to Danny boy or, even, Fitzpatrick.
    ——–
    The brutal truth is THIS: Rosen will be lucky to have a long career as a 2nd or 3rd string back-up in this league. And I would not be surprised if he’s already started his last game in the NFL.

    • olddolphan says:

      Philly vs. the NYI, Game 7, 7:00 PM, on NBC. If you’ve NEVER watched a Game 7 in the NHL Playoffs, well, just watch THIS ONE!!

  65. stangerx says:

    It’s like Flores was breaking up with a girlfriend and was trying to be nice about it. One of the best things he has to say about Rosen is “he competed this training camp”?
    —————————-
    “He’s a hard-working kid. He competed. Last year was a difficult year for him, being up, coming down. He fought through it, he came back, he competed this training camp. I don’t have any bad things to say about him. It just didn’t work out, and we felt like it was in the best interests for us to move on. I wish him the best. He’s immensely talented. But we just felt this was the best move for the Dolphins.”

    • steveccnv says:

      I watched the interview, and Flores looked at a loss for words, but I think it had to do with not giving up his hand. Still say we resign him.

  66. Mike E. says:

    Kirk Merritt didn’t make it

  67. stangerx says:

    Sounds like they are going to pump in fan noise. No idea if gets louder when the visiting team has 3rd and 8.
    ——————————————-
    “According to NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero, the league will provide a recording of crowd noise “specific to each team’s stadium that must be played over the PA system,” whether the venue is hosting live fans or not. The league will also monitor the volume level at which the looped noise is played back, to ensure a stadium operator can’t use the sound effects to provide an unfair edge to the home team or unfairly disrupt the visitors during play.”

  68. Krishna says:

    Pp, you don’t need to go down a rabbit hole and I have no energy to engage with you.

    The point I got out of days64’s comment was that both sides have their flaws, don’t judge, be respectful. And, your first sentence started with judgement by calling out one side and not the other.

    If you think that’s not divisive rhetoric and contradictory to days64’s point, that’s on you and so be it.

    Done.

  69. Mike E. says:

    Krishna – Spend a few minutes a day on social media, whether it be twitter or FB. Every other post is divisive. Either someone is making fun of Trump or they’re making fun of Biden, the squad or that woman who wants to allow looting. No one is posting to hear the other side, their minds are already made up and any kind of engagement is taken as an assault. It’s not good. It’s quite aggressive and combative. I’ve seen so many posts on twitter like “If you’re a Trump supporter, please unfollow me!”. Same on FB. The lines are drawn my friend, I think we both need to get used to it.

    • Krishna says:

      I get the lines are drawn and that’s why I thought days64 comment was a “breath of fresh air.”

      I don’t go or care to be on social media. Oxymoron, imo.

      • days64 says:

        Krishna… No facebook either … quit it over 10yrs ago, it may have been myspace then… lol, was the best thing that I have ever done for my wellbeing. The stress of trying to keep up was stupid. Life is meant to be well lived for oneself, and not to be streamed for the multitudes. What has happened to US? When did we begin to sell ourselves for likes?

        Let us be the first to agree, that we disagree, and this does not make us bad people. This Country is only as strong as its weakest link… and right now… This Country Is in the hands of our Enemies… and guys… you and I are not the enemy!

        Show up… Shut up… and VOTE!

        Keep it Simple Stupid, just vote.

        Go Dolphins! Go America!!!!

        And god bless us all.

  70. steveccnv says:

    The Raiders made Lynn Bowden a third-round pick in April, but he won’t make his NFL debut as a member of the team.

    Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that the Raiders have traded Bowden and a sixth-round pick to the Dolphins for a fourth-round pick. The fourth-round pick is the same one that the Raiders sent to Miami for linebacker Raekwon McMillan last week.

    Bowden finished up his time at Kentucky as the school’s starting quarterback, but he was a wide receiver and returner earlier in his stint at the school. He was slated to play running back with the Raiders, although Saturday’s move makes it clear that they prefer to roll with others in the backfield.

    It remains to be seen how the Dolphins plan to deploy Bowden. Jordan Howard and Matt Breida were the top backs on the roster heading into the weekend.

  71. Ken says:

    Weird trade with the Raiders

  72. Ken says:

    I don’t think that spells good news for Perry

  73. New Age says:

    I also see them as similar players. Multi- use guys can be extremely valuable and, based off draft position, we may be getting an upgrade to Perry. I’ll have to look at some of his footage, but not remembering Bowden isn’t the best first impression. We end up neither gaining or losing anything with the McMillan trade outside of added potential which is always a good thing.

  74. Ken says:

    I think Bowden has more flat out speed. Perry has more elusiveness

  75. herdfan says:

    wyoming85 says:
    September 5, 2020 at 1:36 pm (Edit)
    I’m so jealous of Herd right now!
    Marshal Football is on!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yes! So exciting and a local kid is the starting QB! I was at a friends, they had a friendly demonstration/riot for the game. You know, since we can’t have parties or tailgate. 😷😉

    Go Herd! Go Dolphins!

  76. ocalarob says:

    Rosen cut, oh well, i wasn’t a big fan of the deal when we got him, that said i had adapted and was rooting for him to succeed.
    all water under the bridge but what concerns me more moving forward is why did we give up a 2nd rnd pick on him? makes you wonder which other early rnd selections will get dumped for nothing. nervously shaking over Tua, Jackson and Hunt.
    This is definitely a black mark on Grier’s resume.

    • Ken says:

      Not really a black mark. He took a gamble on a potential franchise caliber QB. We gave up a 2 and a 5. The next season we wound up with 3 1s and 2 2s. It is not like we depleted a lot of draft capital in the process. It’s more of a blip than a black mark

    • steveccnv says:

      We traded our 2019 2nd to the Saints, and we got back their 2nd in 2019 and 2020, 2019 was traded for Rosen along with a 5th. Raekwon Davis was I believe picked with the 2020 2nd from Saints. What did we really give up for Rosen? A 5th.

  77. Phindog says:

    Try this again

    • stangerx says:

      Looks like we have another game piece. Not at QB though. Was sorta of more excited about Perry truthfully….. dude has some fun juke to watch.

  78. steveccnv says:

    Maybe Bowden is our emergency QB too, and for that matter Perry. We could have both of them in the backfield only, split, so that you don’t know which is going to take the snap…double wildcat😉

  79. wyoming85 says:

  80. stangerx says:

    The weather was fine but the smaller boats got sunk by wake. Least means a lot of boats showed up to support Trump.
    —————————–
    “A parade of boats near Austin, Texas meant to honor President Donald Trump ended in disarray Saturday afternoon as at least four watercraft sank and boaters continually rang local authorities in distress. ”

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhLJblXX0AIBEvY?format=jpg

  81. bailbondmike says:

    So it looks like we have 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s plus 2 RB/WR types in Perry and Bowden. 12 at those positions. Seems like a lot.

  82. steveccnv says:

    Roster construction of Dolphins initial 53-man roster. Subject to change after roster claims. QB – 2 RB/FB – 5 TE – 3 WR – 7 OL – 9 DL – 7 LB – 7 CB – 5 S – 5 Specialists – 3 Most notable cuts: Josh Rosen, Kalen Ballage, Gary Jennings. Six bubble guys who I think made the initial 53-man roster due to a strong camp: Adam Pankey, Isaiah Ford, Sam Eguavoen, Malcolm Perry, Mack Hollins, Zach Sieler. No rookie UDFAs made it this year.

    • steveccnv says:

      All drafted rookies, except Weaver must’ve made it, and all real FAs.

    • steveccnv says:

      Some of these guys are going to playing all over the lot, on both sides of the ball, so number at a position means nothing at some positions.

    • steveccnv says:

      WRs must be Mack Hollins, Perry, Bowden, Parker, Preston, Grant and Ford
      RBs must be Howard, Breida, Laird, Gaskin, and Cox
      TEs must be Gesicki, Smythe, Shaheen
      QB Tua and Fitz
      OL Jackson, Flowers, Karras, Kindley, Hunt, Davis, Deiter, Davenport and ?
      DL Lawson, Ogbah, Strowbridge, Godchaux, Wilkins, Davis and Sieler
      LB Van Noy, Baker, Eguavoen, Kamu, Roberts, Van Ginkel, and Trent Harris?
      CB Howard, Iggy, Jones, Needham, and Tae Hayes?
      S Bobby, Rowe, Fejedelem, Frazier, and Jones
      ST Sanders, Haack, Ferguson

  83. bailbondmike says:

    From SI:
    The Dolphins joined the rest of the NFL in getting down to their 53-player limit Saturday, though things likely will change between now and the regular season opener at New England on Sept. 13.
    For now, though, here’s what the 53-man roster looks like:

    QUARTERBACKS (2)
    Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tua Tagovailoa

    RUNNING BACKS (6)
    Malcolm Perry, Matt Breida, Patrick Laird, Jordan Howard, Myles Gaskin, FB Chandler Cox

    WIDE RECEIVERS (6)
    DeVante Parker, Preston Williams, Jakeem Grant, Isaiah Ford, Mack Hollins, Lynn Bowden Jr.

    TIGHT ENDS (3)
    Adam Shaheen, Durham Smythe, Mike Gesicki

    OFFFENSIVE LINEMEN (9)
    Michael Deiter, Solomon Kindley, Ted Karras, Robert Hunt, Julién Davenport, Austin Jackson, Ereck Flowers, Jesse Davis, Adam Pankey

    DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (7)
    Davon Godchaux, Jason Strowbridge, Shaq Lawson, Emmanuel Ogbah, Zach Sieler, Christian Wilkins, Raekwon Davis

    LINEBACKERS (7)
    Andrew Van Ginkel, Elandon Roberts, Calvin Munson, Sam Eguavoen, Kamu Grugier-Hill, Kyle Van Noy, Jerome Baker

    DEFENSIVE BACKS (10)
    Eric Rowe, Noah Igbinoghene, Byron Jones, Xavien Howard, Bobby McCain, Brandon Jones, Jamal Perry, Kavon Frazier, Nik Needham, Clayton Fejedelem

    SPECIALISTS (3)
    Matt Haack, Jason Sanders, Blake Ferguson

  84. bailbondmike says:

    I saw a pre-season 2021 mock draft that was interesting.

    1a WR Jaylen Waddle, AL
    1b Edge Quincy Roche, UM (Edge/OLB type)
    2a S Caden Sterns, Texas (Big versatile DB)
    2b IOL/C Josh Myers, OSU
    3 LB Charles Snowden, UVA
    4a RB Zamir White, UGA
    6a DT Labryan Ray, AL
    6b OT Adrian Ealy, OK
    6c QB Shane Buechele, SMU

  85. bailbondmike says:

    I think we will draft another QB next year. I had been mocking Sam Ehlinger to us but forgot about Shane Buechele as a late round prospect.

    Anyone watching the SMU game?

  86. olddolphan says:

    BARRY TROTZ SURPRISES many NHL observers by starting Griess at goalie over Varlamov, who, for the most part, looked solid in the 5 games he started this series. Now Griess looked sensational in game 4, and, just maybe, Trotz likes this guy more at this particular point in the series. I’ve learned NOT to doubt Trotz’s judgement in cases like this. And so far it’s working. The Isles scored first and lead the Flyers 1-0.

    Winner of this contest plays the Lightning Monday Night at 8 PM on NBCSN (Ch. 220 DIRECTV).
    Tomorrow, the VGK play the Dallas Stars on NBC in Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals.

  87. manitobafinfan says:

    Pretty thin at WR. Did not realize Wilson and Hurns drained our perceived depth so much .. RBs that can catch will be a plus.

  88. olddolphan says:

    ISLANDERS HIT THE POST near the midway point of the 2nd Period. They’ve out shot the Flyers 16-7!! Philly is lucky to only be down 2-0. They MUST pick up the pace to get back in this game.

    • olddolphan says:

      NELSON SCORES FOR THE ISLANDERS on a perfectly executed 2 on 1 break away and the Isles lead 3-0!

      Barring a miracle, THIS GAME IS OVER!!!

  89. ocalarob says:

    steveccnv says:
    September 5, 2020 at 5:42 pm
    We traded our 2019 2nd to the Saints, and we got back their 2nd in 2019 and 2020, 2019 was traded for Rosen along with a 5th. Raekwon Davis was I believe picked with the 2020 2nd from Saints. What did we really give up for Rosen? A 5th.
    _______________________
    we didn’t have to take Rosen with that 2nd so yes we did actually spend a 2nd rnd pick on him.

  90. wyoming85 says:

    I guess I’m going to have to get used to watching football with the sound off!

  91. Tim Knight says:

    The Flyers are getting whacked. Oh well. It’s been an entertaining series. Love playoff hockey even if my team loses.

  92. Tim Knight says:

    Not too many surprise cuts. Now let’s see who makes the 16 man PS. 6 of those can be used on vested veterans.

  93. olddolphan says:

    ONE COACH HAD HIS TEAM ready to play in tonight’s game 7 NHL Playoff game. The other coach DID NOT! ONE WORD best describe’s Philly’s performance — “EMBARRASSING!” –The Flyers looked lost, while the Islanders played their asses off!!! Philadelphia fans will NOT take this lying down, that’s for sure!! Heads will roll during the off season!!
    ————
    Meanwhile the Islanders will roll into Edmonton like a steam roller!! TALK ABOUT MOMENTUM —- WOW!! But they’ll face a well rested Lightning team that has won 8 of the 10 Playoff games they’ve played in this year. For Tampa Bay, the big question is the health of the reigning NHL MVP, Nikita Kucherov, who was knocked out of the last game with a stick to the head by Boston’s Zedeno Chara. If “KOOCH” can’t go, the Lightning are in real trouble. They’ve already lost their captain and #2 scorer, Steven Stamkos (who seems highly unlikely to play in this series). Conversely, if Kucherov is recovered and able to play at a very high level, the Bolts will have a real chance to win this series.

    WHO WILL WIN this series?? Right now, I’d rate the two teams dead even IF Kucherov is in top form. If he misses significant playing time, then I’d have to make the Islanders the odds-on Favorite to advance to the Finals to play, almost certainly, the Vegas Golden Knights, who should dispose of the Dallas Stars in 5 or 6 games.

  94. Tim Knight says:

    Watched highlights of Lynn Bowden and he’s very similar to Malcolm Perry. The team might want two guys just like this. Very versatile players who can do a lot of things. They’re both the type of players we’ve seen the Pats acquire over the years.

  95. Tim Knight says:

    OD, not sure that heads will roll with the Flyers because of one game. They were ascending before the season was suspended. Won the round robin 3-0 to go from 4th to 1st, won the first playoff series against Montreal and lost in game 7 in the second series to the Islanders. They got outplayed. It was not a bad season in anyway. They’ll be back in 2021.

  96. wyoming85 says:

  97. ocalarob says:

    steveccnv says:
    September 5, 2020 at 8:55 pm
    Why do people get so stuck on a draft pick? Sometimes you have to take a chance. Play it safe and have a .500 record every year.
    ____________________________________________

    not stuck on the pick just pointing out a mistake by this front office, it’s not the end of the world however a 2nd rnd pick is very valuable and should be a strike against grier & co.
    I hope everything goes great this year and we are a contender but if we falter some will look back to this situation. if Tua doesn’t pan out especially

  98. ocalarob says:

    do you notice how everyone thought we were going to have 3 qbs this year being fitz, tua & rosen, it almost went without saying, that’s because in the back of their mind they knew we were heavily invested in rosen, and at the very worst we trade him.

    the rosen experience was a complete failure.

    • olddolphan says:

      ROB; I TOTALLY AGREE with you on the Rosen Issue. Flores & Grier really had their heads up their collective asses on this one!! But no one can be right 100% of the time. If the Dolphins make the playoffs this year, the Rosen fiasco will be largely overlooked.

  99. olddolphan says:

    TIM KNIGHT: PHILLY FANS ARE A BREED APART when it comes to their sports teams. Logically, one stinkeroo performance in Game 7 of the Playoffs SHOULD NOT be cause for a big uproar. INDEED, the fact that they took this EXCELLENT Islanders team to a Game 7 should be cause for mild celebration of the entire season.

    BUT NOT FOR PHILLY FANS!! They take great pride in their “Never Forget” philosophy of their evaluation of their home teams!! And they’ll BOMBARD local radio, TV stations, and local papers with voluminous crticisms of “How the FLYERS Folded In a Nationally Broadcast Game played in Prime Time” until they get what they want!! And what DO they want?? – – – A SCAPEGOAT, A FALL GUY OR FALL GUYS!

    And I believe, right or wrong, they’ll get their scapegoat. SOMEONE’s gotta pay! – – – Mark these words: a prominent player or coach (or ONE OF EACH) will no longer be with this team when they open up the new season in a couple of months.

    That’s the least you should expect from a city whose fans once booed Santa Clause!!!!!

  100. bailbondmike says:

    I don’t think the front office had their head up their asses on Rosen. We needed a QB at that time we traded for him. He has a hell of an arm. His issues are in his head. They thought they could fix that. Guess not and it was time to move on. We will draft another one next year and/or give Fitz an extension to backup Tua.

  101. wyoming85 says:

  102. steveccnv says:

    We moved on, because we found a better option. Flores continually says that’s what they’re trying to do at every position. The risk to reward was worth the chance on Rosen.

  103. steveccnv says:

    The 20 or so hours of waiver wait time is about over. We should have a better idea of our week 1 roster soon.

    • steveccnv says:

      Hand size Mike for Bowden is 9 3/4″, Tannehill 9″, Tua 10″, Parker 9 1/4″, Landry 10 1/4″ Burrow 9″

      It does appear that successful NFL quarterbacks tend to have hand sizes closer to 10 inches than nine, or at least over 9.5 inches, so that doesn’t bode well for Burrow.

      I think it’s important for a WR to have large hands, but not as much as a QB.

      Bowden seems to check off all the boxes. The rumor on him is he’s more interested in buying cars than the playbook, but he does have a son to keep him grounded.

      Other than the Raiders playing him at RB instead of WR and him being slow to adjust…something is missing from the equation, you don’t get rid of 3rd round picks before they play a game.

  104. CavalierKong says:

    During the offseason I argued we would get a 6th at best for Rosen. I didn’t expect for him to be part of the team this year.

    I am OK with using the 2nd to give Rosen a try and it not panning out, mostly because we had so many picks it didn’t hurt giving up one 2nd. QB is the one position that impacts the team in such a significant way that I believe in a philosophy that says you keep using capital until you get your guy, even if it takes a few years.

    At some point though if you keep missing and other guys end up being good (say if Herbert or Love turns out to be great and Tua doesn’t), then you have to start questioning your decision makers.

  105. CavalierKong says:

    The Lynn Bowden thing is pretty weird. 3rd rd pick gets traded before the start of his 1st season? I have to think he was terrible in Raiders camp, or he pissed someone off.

    • Mike E. says:

      Or maybe we were really intrigued with him and picked up the phone and made an offer and they accepted. Who knows? Maybe they had discussed him when the trade for McMillan went down.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I considered that, and that would be our best case scenario, but it just makes no sense. Why weren’t they part of the same trade. There could have been a trust thing there on our part. We’ll give you McMillan and in a few days you give us Bowden, but why do it that way? If that was the way it went down, it’s weird.

      • steveccnv says:

        But the compensation we gave up to get him didn’t match what Raiders used to get him, so it wasn’t an offer they couldn’t refuse.

      • steveccnv says:

        If you make it along with the McMillan trade and he doesn’t pass a physical or some other issues comes up you void the trade, maybe they didn’t want that risk.

        I agree Mike it likely came up with the Mc trade.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Why on earth would we trade a 4th for a guy that the Raiders spent a 3rd on, he didn’t even make it out of their camp, and we might have concerns may not pass a physical, and make it ‘tied’ to the McMillan trade? That makes even less sense.

      • CavalierKong says:

        This think perhaps I misunderstood your original comment, Mike. I thought you were saying it was ‘wink’ tied to the McMillan trade, but rereading I see that probably wasn’t what you meant. Just that he came up

    • New Age says:

      https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/09/06/raiders-had-concerns-about-lynn-bowden-both-on-and-off-the-field/?ocid=uxbndlbing

      Interesting article. Not sure about all of it but it makes sense. Looking at some of the highlights, he’s a jack of all trades but master of none. He wasn’t a very good WR, and was a terrible QB. He was a solid RB but was that because he was in the QB position while running? He’s definitely not on par with Lamar or other running QBs so we will see if he works as a hard to defend option in another area of the field.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Basically took a flyer on him, I guess. Off field concerns, didn’t make it out of his first camp. He really doesn’t seem like our kind of guy. There must be something there they find intriguing.

  106. Mike E. says:

    Nothing wrong with being frustrated by misses and cuts of previous regimes or current ones. Why shouldn’t you be disappointed? Let’s get real here! I’m not saying you have to cry about it for days but there should be disappointment when you miss on high draft picks.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I think it’s a matter of philosophy. Nobody is jumping for joy that Rosen didn’t pan out, lol, but understanding the philosophy that you have to keep trying until you get a QB until you hit on one, you have to kind of expect it, not harp on it being some huge mistake.

    • steveccnv says:

      I’m going with ODs theory of Rosen can’t read a D. Once they benched him last year in the Skins game his career in Miami was over, if they thought he had a chance to be their franchise QB he would’ve played out the year. With that said he did us a favor by stinking it up.

      If he had been Tannehill level we could’ve spent the next 7 years wasted on his potential. As it turned out Fitz got the nod, the program changed drastically and FAs sought us, for a change. Again Rosen did us a favor. We’ll see how big with the future comparison of Tua vs Burrow.

  107. Mike E. says:

    Steve – Maybe they didn’t see what they expected from him and getting the 4th back was better than keeping him buried on their depth chart.

  108. wyoming85 says:

  109. New Age says:

    Flores does well with players is the only reason I’m not more concerned with Bowden. When you look at his games and stats, nothing before last year jumped out and last year mainly jumped out because of him playing QB. He was a terrible QB by the way but teams had a hard time stopping his running. I don’t think that would be a problem in the NFL though. Looking at it more, is there anything he does better than Grant or Breida? Maybe injury insurance at scatback?

    • CavalierKong says:

      Hopefully either him or Perry pan out if not both. Someone earlier mentioned wildcat schemes. With two of these jack of all trades guys, we might see some very interesting offensive sets this year.

  110. steveccnv says:

    Other than 1st rd picks I’m not really worried about any picks right now, because we have so many this year, next year, and the roster is so young. When you have an aging team and you give away draft picks for questionable players it means a lot more. We have more room for error, but we need to hit on all of our 1sts.

  111. Mike E. says:

    Kong – In the case of Rosen, yes, but it’s the cumulative effect of him, Raekwon McMillan and so many others that we have jettisoned because they weren’t scheme fits or just unwanted players from previous regimes. We have to finally end that and be more like the Ravens and Steelers and have continuity with the GM and HC. Changing every 3 years makes this happen. We need Flores and Grier to stay together for a nice long stretch and these type of things will lessen significantly, or at least it should.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Gotcha, I agree with all that. Objectively speaking, right now I really believe we have the right guy in Flores, and the book is still out on Grier IMO, so I get being annoyed and questioning moves like Rosen after all the shit we’ve seen for the last decade, lol.

      This year will do a lot to inform us about our GM. Hopefully we do have the right guys and this is the start of many years together.

    • steveccnv says:

      I agree, but let’s not assume these other teams that have great programs don’t miss on draft picks. Belicheat himself missed on many top picks.

    • stangerx says:

      Yep — scheme changes burn talent.

  112. steveccnv says:

    Let’s compare the entire trade, in essence we traded Mc for Bowden swapping a 5th for a 6th. If we didn’t make the trade, kept Mc and played him very little, or worse, played him a lot and he continued to get beat in pass D, would we be better off?

    Hard to believe we would’ve been better off, and Bowden is under contract for 4 more years, instead of Mcs 1.

  113. stangerx says:

    Might have been two different transaction but essentially we gave the Raiders McMillan for Bowden. And if they didn’t see McMillan in their scheme going forward I’m cool with that. He is in a contract year and we got 4 seasons of Bowden.

    • CavalierKong says:

      That is what I thought Mikey was saying at first, and that doesn’t make sense to me. Why do a weird two trades over a few days thing instead of just making the trade. I can believe they may have discussed Bowden on the first trade, but don’t see the logic in a ‘wink’ trade. JMHO

      • Mike E. says:

        Yes, to answer directly, that’s not what I was implying. I just think they may have discussed acquiring him during the McMillan trade but at that time they didn’t like the compensation. Maybe we upped the bounty or maybe they just changed their mind. We’ll likely never know.

      • stangerx says:

        I wasn’t saying that was the way everything was planned….. just that’s the way it turned out. Maybe Greir and the Raiders had a great talk and when Bowden got caught with a hooker their first call was us. 🙂

      • steveccnv says:

        It’s not a wink trade, it’s a taking the contingency out of the trade, trade.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Ok, gotcha Mika and Stang. That makes a lot more sense to me, lol.

  114. Mike E. says:

    Steve – Like I said, it could have been in discussion with the McMillan trade and maybe at first they balked at it but after consideration they relented.

    • steveccnv says:

      I like my theory that we didn’t want to lose Bowden, especially off of the heels of the Ballage trade not going thru, due to some technicality, which would make your statement true also.

  115. steveccnv says:

    Isn’t it easier to sell your house first, before buying a new one, contingent upon selling your old one? That’s what these trades were.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Where the hell am I going to put all my shit while I’m looking for my new house? lol

      Usually player trades go down in the same trade. I don’t want to keep harping on this, so I can agree that you may be right, but IMO they were two different trades. 🙂

    • Mike E. says:

      Can we use donkeys instead of houses? Can’t wrap my head around the house analogy. 😀

  116. steveccnv says:

    CavalierKong says:
    September 6, 2020 at 1:08 pm
    Hopefully either him or Perry pan out if not both. Someone earlier mentioned wildcat schemes. With two of these jack of all trades guys, we might see some very interesting offensive sets this year.

    I had them in the Wildcat together, both in the QB spot, split slightly off center, so you didn’t know which one was going to take the snap.

  117. CavalierKong says:

    Holy shyte. We are literally a week away from our opening game. Woohoo!!
    And only 4 days away from the league opener. Texans and Chiefs this Thursday.

  118. CavalierKong says:

    I’m going all out like it’s Super Bowl for our opening game. I’m doing a full homemade Indian cuisine spread.

    Chicken curry, butter chicken, shai paneer, potato rice pilaf, pakora with mint chutney and tamarind chutney, and naan.

    I have basically spent my quarantine time learning how to make Indian food and painting the whole dang house. lol

    • CavalierKong says:

      I don’t serve Indian food for Superbowl, that line was more about the quantity of food I’m making.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Callback to the oxford comma. Needed to separate ‘naan’ as a different item than the ‘pakora with mint chutney and tamarind chutney’. lol

    • stangerx says:

      That sounds awesome. Love me some Indian food. Never knew someone who could make it (even if am sure a bunch of Indian people I have met could).

      • CavalierKong says:

        Stang, I don’t know anyone else who makes it either. I fell in love with it after going to an Indian lunch buffet a few years ago. I eat and cook a lot of different food, but Indian is my favorite.

        They key is in the spices. With most international cuisines, you can usually find substitutes for hard to find spices and staples. With Indian food, you have to invest in certain products or it’ll never taste the same. Could be why not a lot of people make it. Of course I don’t know a lot of people that like Indian food, so that is probably a factor as well, lol.

  119. stangerx says:

    Writer’s comment on the LB unit — “Baker has gone from the team’s best coverage option to perhaps the worst coverage option out of Miami’s base three linebackers in just one year.” And wasn’t saying Baker got worse.

    Pass D should be strong. My only concern is the run.

  120. Mike E. says:

    Kong – I had some Pad Thai from what is supposed to be one of the best Thai restaurants in NJ and all can say is it was easily the most flavorful and enjoyable Pad Thai I have ever eaten. I suspect they used a generous amount of tamarind because it was delicious. I had it 2 days later because I couldn’t finish it and it was a flavor bomb again 2 days later. I find Indian food to be much the same, just bursting with different flavors that aren’t so familiar to me and it’s just so pleasurable.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Nice! Of the people I serve Indian food to, if they don’t like it, it’s because of the flavor palette being so different from our own.

      I experience it the same way you describe. It’s bursting with flavor, most unfamiliar, and it’s so complex. Amazing food.

  121. bailbondmike says:

    Rosen signs with Bucs to their practice squad. Makes sense for him to compete there to try and replace Brady when he retires for good.

  122. stangerx says:

    Cav — I’m sure with the internet now you can get whatever spices you need, and in the old days that might have been why people did not make it. Cause that is the thing about Indian — the spices are just so very different. Lot of the dishes look like could come from a Chinese menu, but one bit tells you a whole different world. Not for everyone though….. my wife hates it.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Amazon is my best friend. They have every item needed that can’t be found in the supermarket. And recipes and techniques can be found online. It’s my favorite thing about the internet. It opens up the world of cooking 🙂

  123. D says:

    Tom yum and Tom kha are both awesome. Outside of vietnamese pho those are my next favs

  124. Mike E. says:

    Kong – When I’m in the Cali area I expect an invite for some soup bro! What a trip that would be, I’d be with a dog family, and ape family and a brewery owner/operator. What could be better?

  125. Ken says:

    Ruddock signed to PS

  126. Ken says:

    Kong :
    I thought you only ate bananas and bamboo

  127. Krishna says:

    Days64, it’s good to know your a follower of the KISS philosophy.

  128. Krishna says:

    We loved the curried mussels with garlic naan. Mrs. K would use the broth for dipping. Best in ATX, imo.

    She loved the goan yellow curry with shrimp.

    Been eating Indian food since 1980.

  129. Ken says:

    Kong:
    Where about in CA are you? One of mine sons is interested in University of San Francisco and when it is feasible I hope to get out there for a visit

    • CavalierKong says:

      I’m in Carmichael which is in the heart of the Sacramento area. If you’re in the bay area, you’re somewhere from an hour to two hours away from me.

      It’d be great to meet ya, Ken! Let me know if it’s possible and we’ll meet up. If it’s too far a drive, we could even meet up at a half way point and maybe grab a drink and some lunch or something.

      • CavalierKong says:

        If we can find a place that is open lol

      • Ken says:

        Cool. Right now I have to wait for travel restrictions to ease up but USF is a really good school and they keep emailing my son so I really want to get out to see it. I have been to SF once and I loved the city

  130. wyoming85 says:

    The Hulk and King Kong walk into a bar………………………..

    Or is that sit next to one??????? 😉

  131. steveccnv says:

    With Bowden I think Preston’s punt return days are over.

  132. steveccnv says:

    So far Callaway and Rudock on PS.

  133. manitobafinfan says:

    Rosen to TB with Ariens actually makes sense as well.. he was the Cards coach when the y drafted him

  134. manitobafinfan says:

    Callaway was hyped as super talented and I believe later fast but mentally was a josh Gordon… if he finally grew up this could be a good signing

  135. olddolphan says:

    DALLAS STARS VS. THE VGK TONIGHT on NBC. Knights have better talent and should win this Western Conference Finals series in 5 or 6 games. But I give the Stars a REAL CHANCE TONIGHT as the Knights may be just a tad over confident.

  136. CavalierKong says:

    Ken says:
    September 6, 2020 at 6:07 pm

    Why does the ape always get the girl?
    ———–
    Philosophical and existential questions such as this should never be examined too closely. Better to just accept it as incontrovertible truth and move on. LOL

  137. stangerx says:

    OD — why is the University of South Florida in Tampa? Not even trying to make a crack…..actually curious since Tampa is towards the northern part of the state.

    • olddolphan says:

      YOUNG STANGER: When the University of South Florida was founded it became the most southerly location for ANY state university in the Sunshine State (neither FAU nor FIU had been created yet, and the U of MIAMI is a private (and VERY expensive university). HENCE the USF name selection

      THAT SAID, the founders of USF obviously weren’t geography majors. Something like “TAMPA BAY UNIVERSITY” would have been more appropriate, especially since almost everyone understood that it was only a matter of time before southern Florida had not one but TWO state universities. (Also, it should be noted that Florida Southern came into being before WW2 in LAKELAND. It is a PRIVATE school, also).

      USF (Tampa) was already a pretty large school when I went to college in the late 60’s. I felt much more at home at the smaller FAU campus. However, FAU, which had less than 2,000 students in the mid-60’s, maxed-out at over 30,000 two years ago, before the big virus caused enrollment decreases.

    • steveccnv says:

      My next door neighbor in Miami went to USF, I used to bust his balls too on it being in Tampa🤔

  138. wyoming85 says:

    goofball!

    • Tim Knight says:

      I really like Jerome. He’s a good dude and a good player. Speed LB which many here on this blog have wanted for a long time.

  139. Tim Knight says:

    27 new players are on the current roster from last year.

  140. Tim Knight says:

    I thought TB might be a logical landing spot for Josh Rosen and there you have it.

  141. olddolphan says:

    THE DALLAS STARS out shot, out hit and OUT SCORED the VGK in the opening period of tonight’s Western Conference Finals on NBC. NO surprise to me because I thought Vegas might enter this contest a bit over confident. HOWEVER, there are still at least TWO more periods of action ahead of us. AND I STILL EXPECT Vegas to win this series in 5 or 6 games.
    ————–
    AT LEAST THIS GAME has been quite intense and exciting, unlike last night’s boring, lopsided, affair where the Isles showed up and the Flyers didn’t. Look for more excitement, and, perhaps, a fight or two as this game progresses. If Fluery does his job well in the next two periods, I still believe the odds favor VGK. BUT—The Stars DO HAVE a real shot tonight.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Dallas is tough. It took the Blues a double overtime game 7 to knock them out last year. Vegas has to be on their A game to win this series.

      • olddolphan says:

        With just 8 shots in the 1st period and either 4 or 5 shots in the 2nd period, Vegas has yet to show their A game tonight. Fluery saved Vegas’ ass a couple of times in the 2nd period. Otherwise this would be a 2-0 or 3-0 game. The VGKneeds to come out of the locker room and SCORE with their man advantage at the start of the 3rd period.

  142. steveccnv says:

    3 games in 4 nights, and having trouble scoring doesn’t exactly breed over confidence.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Hockey playoffs is a grind. The team that makes the most plays wins. Just like in all sports.

    • olddolphan says:

      Vegas’ total dominance of their opponent in their last game actually did breed over confidence. The 3rd period of their previous game was as lopsided as I can recall during the current playoffs. Of course if you DON’T accept the over confidence factor, then you’ve GOT to believe Dallas is simply the better team. AND I DON’T accept that even for a second.
      —————-
      The NEXT game in this series should bring out THREE GOOD PERIODS OF HOCKEY from the favored Knights, who, found out tonight that you can’t beat Dallas with just one period of good effort. I’m going to say VGK wins the next game by MORE THAN 1 GOAL!

      • steveccnv says:

        The entire game 7 was lopsided, yet all they could score was 1 goal, with the goalie in the net. The Vancouver coach played not to lose and it backfired, making VGK look dominant.

        I believe Dallas played better in game 1, because of the mentally tough 3 games in 4 days VGK just went thru and getting out hit. Without Ryan Reeves playing, Dallas was able to control the 1st period, when the goal was scored.

        Besides, this is hockey, a lucky bounce or roll of a puck can change the game.

  143. Tim Knight says:

    Obviously the team still sees something in Durval Queiroz Neto on the OL.

  144. CavalierKong says:

    RIP Lou Brock

    • steveccnv says:

      Fuck, our childhood heroes are dropping like flies. I was never a fan of his team(s), but I sure did admire his greatness.

  145. son of a son of a shula says:

    Oh man Lou Brock too. RIP Lou.

  146. son of a son of a shula says:

    Jake Ruddock to the practice squad.
    Hold the same job as Josh Rosen in the league.

  147. wyoming85 says:

    Brian Flores Monday September 7 media availability thread

    Ryan Fitzpatrick will start the season opener in New England. “This isn’t ground breaking news,” Flores says as he mentions the shortened offseason and a good training camp for Fitz.
    7:45 AM · Sep 7, 2020·Twitter Web App
    2
    Retweets
    29
    Likes
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    27m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Flores says they did a lot of work on Bowden pre-draft and when the trade became an option they did a lot more work on him.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    22m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Depth chart coming soon, Flores on player listed as starters.

    Guys listed as starters are guys that had a good camp, they’re ahead of some other guys. I wouldn’t put too much into that because there are so many personnel groupings.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    24m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    “I’m still demanding. I coach guys hard. I’m passionate abut coaching, passionate about getting guys better. I love coaching.”

  148. wyoming85 says:

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Told you they love Davis and McCain

      Baker not a Captain and he was last year.

      • steveccnv says:

        I think Baker may be too much of a clown for him to be a captain. Don’t get me wrong, I think he’s a great ascending player, but not the captain material they’re looking for.

        The biggest surprise is Robert’s. I think that tells us he’s going to be a big part of this D.

        Someone wrote yesterday, that Baker went from being the best cover LB last year to the worst this year, without getting any worse. That’s telling for the newcomers and Van Ginkel/Eguavoen.

      • steveccnv says:

        I just got a chill, thinking we actually can cover backs and TEs.

  149. son of a son of a shula says:

    3 former Pats as Captains, can you say leadership void?

  150. steveccnv says:

    The Dolphins ended up signing 17 players to their practice squad because they had two players who do not count against the 16-player limit.

    One is Durval Queiroz, who gets an exemption because of his international practice player status. (This is why I said Lol to Tim above)

    The other is wide receiver Antonio Callaway, who officially has been suspended by the NFL. While the NFL transactions log didn’t provide a length for the suspension, NFL Network reported it’s for seven games.

    The other 15 include 12 players who were waived by the Dolphins, along with two other familiar faces — quarterback Jake Rudock and cornerback Javaris Davis, who was in training camp this summer.

    The two newcomers are defensive back Brian Cole, a rookie seventh-round pick from Mississippi State, and defensive lineman Nick Coe, a rookie free agent from Auburn.

    The dozen players brought back after being waived Saturday are RB Salvon Ahmed, WR Matt Cole, DB Tae Hayes, DB Nate Holley, T Jonathan Hubbard, LB Kylan Johnson, DT Benito Jones, WR Kirk Merritt, TE Chris Myarick, DE Tyshun Render and CB Ken Webster.

    The guys I hoped would be there seem to mostly be there, like Cole and Merritt, Render and Benito, Ahmed and Rudock. The rest I don’t really care or know enough about.

  151. wyoming85 says:

    Coe is an interesting guy!
    If I’m thinking of the same one?

    • steveccnv says:

      Yes, I agree. This is the type of development guy you want on the PS, one that’s not ready yet, but has a huge upside. I see them adding some weight/strength to his frame and playing him all over the place, typical Flores type player.

      2020 Guide: What Ourlads’ Scouting Services said about NICK COE: Auburn, 6045 280 4.81. Junior entry, one-year starter, Asheboro, NC. Reached his peak in 2018 and failed to maintain his starting role last fall. A big time high school wrestler in the 285-pound class. Was known for his position-versatility at Auburn, as he lined up as a stand up outside linebacker, 3-4 defensive end, and 4-3 defensive tackle. The tool set he brings to the table allowed him to achieve the tweener-status, one he really produced from in 2018 (13.5 TFL and 7 sacks). However that tweener status didn’t help him much in 2019, as he struggled to make a consistent impact. There is a lot of stiffness in his game and a team may want to force him into one spot and develop him there. His ideal position is likely a 3-4 defensive end where he can use his length and contact power to consume blockers and control 1-2 gaps. Long armed with a country-strong upper body and capable knee bend. An inside-out player that has a bit of a tweener-style. Has a body that will handle more bulk over time. Gets his hands on the blocker early with a violent strike. Capable of playing low and quick. Will make reads inside and show natural gravitation toward the action. A strong finisher who wraps up the ball carrier with man-strength and solid wrap up technique. Shows the extra gear burst while closing in on the ball. Has shown an array of developed rush moves inside. Doesn’t play with consistent pad level. Will get caught looking in the backfield and lose track of his leverage and width. Has a hard time disengaging. 2019 stats: 15 T, 3 TFL, 3 QBH. Edge speed:left 2.41, right 2.30. OSR:12/25. Fourth/fifth round. (A-33 3/4, H-10 1/4, BP-21, 10-1.67).

  152. bailbondmike says:

    Practice squad roster. Glad to see a few names back like Kirk Merritt, Tyshun Render and Benito Jones. There are also some interesting additions to include DE Nick Coe from Auburn. Some of us had mocked him to us.

    QB Jake Ruddock
    RB Salvon Ahmed
    WR Kirk Merritt
    WR Antonio Calloway
    WR Matt Cole
    TE Chris Myarick
    OT Jonathan Hubbard
    OL/DL Durval Queroz-Neto
    DE Nick Coe
    DE Tyshun Render
    NT Benito Jones
    LB Kylan Johnson
    CB Ken Webster
    CB Tae Hayes
    DB Nate Holley
    DB Javaris Davis
    S Brian Cole

    I guess we get to keep 17 because of Neto.

    • steveccnv says:

      Calloway is interesting too. I mean, if Flores can get his head straight, he’s a talented guy.

      Thing about Flores is he can speak straight to these guys, having the minority upbringing as he did. I think it gives him a huge advantage. It worked, so far with Preston.

      So we got a free 1st round talent in Preston, but gave up a 2nd in the Rosen cut. To me that’s better than a wash.

  153. Mike E. says:

    Anyone know what the changes were to the PS rules? I think you can protect a few, but I don’t remember the exact number.

    • steveccnv says:

      16, and we get an exemption for Neto. There’s other rules that changed for this year, that I posted last week, such as players off the PS can play in a game twice, then go back to the PS the next day before having to sign an NFL contract, the 3rd time they revert to the old rules. There’s some waiver rule changes too, that deal with these moves.

      • Mike E. says:

        Wait, you can protect 16, or there are 16 on the PS? I thought there was a certain number you can protect from being poached.

  154. wyoming85 says:

    Chan Gailey Monday 9/7 media availability thread
    9:31 AM · Sep 7, 2020·Twitter Web App
    3
    Retweets
    16
    Likes
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    10m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Last year’s play, this year’s preparation and play go into the decision to name Ryan Fitzpatrick the starter.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    4m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    As a coordinator Chan has always been upstairs. “The calmness of being able to think through the next series, to look at plays without guys coming up to you is great.”
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    4m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    “Fitzpatrick’s understanding of the game is right up there with the best.” — Chan Gailey on his QB

    Says he understands not just what the offense is doing but what the defense is trying to do. Leadership, accuracy, competitiveness and knowledge, Gailey mentions as strong points.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    9m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Gailey says Flores and Coach Josh Grizzard were the ones showing him what Lynn Bowden can do on the field.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    9m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Gailey on what makes it so hard to win in Foxoboro.

    “They’ve got good players. I don’t care where you play, good players make the difference.”
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    6m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Gailey says the staff has worked hard to get Gesicki better as a blocker and the same with Smythe as a receiver. They believe both guys have done that. “Hopefully we’ve got more balance there than people might think at this point.”
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    7m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Gailey says Preston Williams is in a good place going into the first game. Says they tried to get him some rest throughout camp with the days off here and there.

  155. Mike E. says:

    Toba – When is our draft?

  156. son of a son of a shula says:

    Mike, 16 can go on the PS. Neto is an exception because of international status and Caldwell is under suspension for I think 7 games.

  157. steveccnv says:

    Don’t see Calloway getting on the field this year anyways, unless we have a lot of injuries and he makes a late season appearance. He needs to take a year off and get his head straight anyways.

  158. bailbondmike says:

    Wyoming, Nick Coe at 6’5″ 285 can play DE in both a 3-4 and 4-3. Not overly quick or fast but stout. Does well to hold his ground. Good vs the run. He was a beast in 2018 but production really fell off in 2019. Not sure why.

    Best thing about getting him was we stole him from NE. He was cut to get their roster to 75 in the middle of August but an article on Aug 25 said NE was going to bring him back and sign him to their PS. Not! lol

  159. steveccnv says:

    The captains were picked by the players. Looks like the familiarity of Flores’ D for Van Noy and Roberts are what got them picked.

  160. Mike E. says:

    Thanks Steve – I could have googled, thought someone might have known

  161. steveccnv says:

    Miami Herald

    Flores said he’s excited to have two versatile rookie playmakers and converted college quarterbacks in Malcolm Perry and Lynn Bowden Jr., but cautioned that Bowden would need time to learn the team’s offense and system after his Saturday acquisition from the Las Vegas Raiders.

    Both players will play receiver, from what we’ve been told.

    “I’m excited about both Lynn and Malcolm from a talent standpoint,” Flores said. “Tough, competitive guys. We did a lot of work on Lynn pre-draft and when the trade was an option, we did a lot more work.

    “We’re excited about having him join our team. There’s a lot he’s going to have to learn. He’s not going to jump out and start playing. He has to learn how we do things. He’s got a lot to learn and [that takes] a little bit of time. We’re excited to have him. We’re excited to have Malcolm also.”

  162. wyoming85 says:

    Josh Boyer Monday 9/7 media availability thread
    9:41 AM · Sep 7, 2020·Twitter Web App
    6
    Likes
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    34m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    “The defense will evolve over time. It’s going to come down to execution and fundamentals. Over time the chemistry, camaraderie, the fundamentals, all of that will improve. We don’t expect to be playing our best ball in September.”
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    28m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    “Cam (Newton) is a good player and Josh (McDaniels) is a good coach so I’m sure there will be a good marriage there. Like New England does they’re gonna get the best out of their players.”
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    29m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Boyer says the three captains did a lot in the offseason to reach out to other guys to get workouts together. Also mentions Eric Rowe and Davon Godchaux as other guys that helped to build and facilitate relationships.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    26m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Coach Boyer will be down on the field on game day. Says he’s gotten as good of an education as anybody from guys like Flores or Matt Patricia spending time with those guys on game day with regards to play calling and the flow of the game.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    32m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Boyer on his pass rushers and creating pressure:

    “Pressure comes in a variety of forms. Some of it will be individual effort, some of it will be scheme oriented, but we’ll take it any way we can get it.”

    • steveccnv says:

      This is what I want to see, from guys not named Ogbah/Lawson, some of it will be scheme oriented. From those 2 we’ll get individual effort. Van Noy is going to benefit from the scheme, he knows how to work it, the rest like Baker and Roberts will also get it from the scheme. The guys in the middle will mostly get coverage sacks, with a few stunt/scheme sacks mixed in.

  163. Mike E. says:

    I guess Bobby McCain is here to stay since he’s a team captain

    • steveccnv says:

      With overall good coverage that we expect, and something that resembles a passrush Bobby could be that ballhawk centerfielder we’ve all coveted. He has good vision, good enough hands, and mainly get the picks, because he’s in the right place at the right time.

  164. wyoming85 says:

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Temper that with he also picks Tampa to win the Super Bowl.

    • steveccnv says:

      We’ve got the talent this year to win the division. You could say we have a tough schedule, but we have the easiest in the division, if you consider us as equal to Buffalo or NE head to head.

      The area we’re lacking in is experience. How long it takes to get up to speed will determine our chances.

    • stangerx says:

      Peter King just loves the the Phins. Been talking them up for years through different regimes. Think he must be a fan…. or maybe he just hates the Pats.

  165. steveccnv says:

    Moving 2 guys up from the practice squad on game day was put in to help even the playing field for teams that possible have covid cases or multiple guys out due to injury. They’ve added 2 guys a week to the active roster, so allowing 2 PS guys to come up seems logical.

  166. steveccnv says:

    Depth chart coming out soon, but the only grouping that isn’t obvious that matters is the OL or maybe just RT. Many of the other groups guys will be subbed in and out.

  167. ocalarob says:

    one of the reasons they probably went with 2 qbs is the fact they have 2 other utility players that can play qb in perry and bowden.

    • stangerx says:

      Think two on the active roster and one on the PS is becoming pretty standard these days. And lets face it — if your top 2 QBs go down in a game you’ve probably lost that one anyhow.

  168. stangerx says:

    FEST UPDATE

    I really have nothing to update you don’t already know, but a bunch of you folks already said you were in when put in the group tix res. Worried that some of you might be making flight reservations when shouldn’t.

    The one thing for sure this year is that won’t be Fest as usual. Well other thing for sure is that there can’t be a tailgate. Even if I can get tickets with the limited seating (which I doubt)….. at that point would rather set up at Bokamper’s or something for the game. But if a Covid spike comes don’t even know can do that.

    If the gravitas is there for folks to come down for the Lions game….. I will set something up. But you get the idea…..

    And don’t worry about me. Only have a small deposit down at this point. Pretty sure can get that back no matter what.

  169. CavalierKong says:

    This is nice to here from Raiders GM Mayock.

    “No. 1, it was a football decision only,” Mayock said Sunday, per The Athletic’s Tashan Reed. “Character, off the field, the kid did absolutely nothing wrong. We did all our homework on the kid off the field. He worked his tail off. He came to work every day. So this was completely a football decision. It had nothing to do with anything else.

    “Quite frankly, I think the position change is a difficult one in any year, but it’s exaggerated in a COVID-19 year with no offseason,” Mayock continued, alluding to Bowden’s unofficial move from wide receiver to running back. “You’re taking a kid that was a slot receiver in ’18, a quarterback in ’19 and asking him to play running back in ’20. Really the only other thing I’m going to say about it is that it was my call. He was not able to play today at the level expected. Because of that, we felt like we had to make a move. Again, it’s 100 percent on me.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/mike-mayock-explains-why-the-raiders-traded-their-third-round-pick-before-he-played-a-single-game/ar-BB18NdIh

    • CavalierKong says:

      *hear* sheesh

    • CavalierKong says:

      Pair this with Flores saying he views him as a receiver, and what I’m reading is the Raiders drafted him with the idea of making him a RB. He wasn’t living up that expectation, so we traded for him because we like him as a receiver/ slash player.

    • steveccnv says:

      Mayock is full of shit.

      • CavalierKong says:

        LOL
        He had no reason to make that strong a statement after the trade, a generic one would have been fine, but it is your town so if the buzz your hearing is different…

  170. D says:

    Callaway is incredibly talented. He could be starting for us before the end of the year. I do agree he needs to get things straight and we need to make sure he has himself center and ready to be a pro, but he might be more talented than anyone on our team currently if he can get out if his own way. Before he lost his way at UF he was almost unstoppable and that’s when we really didn’t have a QB to get the ball to him.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Yep, he was a top graded talent with loads of off field issues. It was a very Bleicheat kind of move to pick him up. A no risk reclamation project with a lot of upside.

      I feel with the locker room we’ve created, there is no risk he’ll be a distraction. Either he takes direction and our team helps him get his head on straight, in which case he can be a real dynamic player for us, or he doesn’t buy into the program and we jettison his ass.

  171. Mike E. says:

    I feel like both of those moves, Bowden and Callaway are more for the future. Not sure either one can make an impact this season.

    • steveccnv says:

      Why not Bowden this year? You don’t make that trade to redshirt him. We had guys coming off of the street last year to play.

      • Mike E. says:

        I didn’t say we’re gonna redshirt him but I don’t think picking him up at this late stage that he’s going to be able to make a big impact. He’s a rookie way behind everyone else.

  172. olddolphan says:

    TO NO ONE’s SURPRISE, REIGNING NHL MVP Nikita Kucherov is a “GO” for Tampa Bay for tonight’s Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals. Team captain and #2 scorer Steven Stamkos is said to be OUT FOR THE ENTIRE SERIES, though GM BriseBois says his status for the Stanley Cup Finals (should the Lightning advance) is not known at this point. And, speaking of “POINT,” young Braden Point will again be relied upon to pick up much of the slack created by Stamkos’ absence. Line mate Ondreg Palat also will need to have a big series if Tampa Bay is to defeat this outstanding Islanders team.

    Game Time is 8:00 PM on MSNBC, Channel 220 on DIRECTV.

  173. Ken says:

    Stanger if the CT travel restrictions are still in place I don’t think I can make a fest but who knows what October will look like

  174. wyoming85 says:

  175. Randy says:

    Churn that roster. Keep throwing guys into the grinder and see who comes out the other side. I like the philosophy. Like Gailey said: Good players make the difference. This team needed a talent injection. It should be interesting to see how things shake out over the next couple years. They’re bringing in bodies. Hopefully some of them end up being keepers. This roster is far from being set.

  176. stangerx says:

    “It’s kind of like when the offense gives us a different formation, it’s the same thing with the defense, We’re giving them different looks so they can’t always tell who the fourth rusher is. Are we bringing five? Are we just rushing three?”
    —- DL Coach Marion Hobby

  177. manitobafinfan says:

    Stanger: we are out as well.. still have a 14 Day self isolation on returning from out of country, and also from Eastern Canada… hoping shit changes soon enough for a tropical winter getaway but even that not looking good at this point…. sucks

  178. Tim Knight says:

    Can’t wait for the opener. Want see the new team and see how it progresses.

  179. steveccnv says:

    Is it safe to say we’re going to be pretty good on STs?

    • Tim Knight says:

      I can see us starting off 2-4 maybe 3-3 and then having a run here and there. I won’t be surprised if we’re pretty good and even make the playoffs. We’ll be better in the 2nd half of the season unless we’re depleted by injuries.

  180. olddolphan says:

    A TAMPA AREA sports commentator wondered if the Lightning would be rusty after not playing a game for a full week. Well he got his answer quickly as the Bolts ran off 3 quick goals in the first period, sending NYI starting goalie Greiss to the bench and replacing him with Varlamov, who has also given up 3 goals!! This game resembles the 7-1 ass-kicking Tampa Bay laid on Boston in round 2!! Tampa Bay will be 11-3 over all in the 3 playoff rounds after tonight’s unexpected blow-out win.
    ———————
    Game 2 of the VGK vs. Dallas series is tomorrow night. I expect the Golden Knights to even this series at a game each with a solid victory.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Boston collapsed for whatever reason. They were the top dogs before the season was suspended and then got outplayed by the Flyers and the Lightning in the round robin and playoffs.

  181. Tim Knight says:

    It looks to me that Godchaux, Wilkens and Davis will be our main big men up front, with Lawson and Ogbah on the edges, and Baker, Van Noy, Van Ginkel, Grugier-Hill, Roberts and Eguavoen as the LBs.

    There will be some mix and match and other DL mixing in as usual, but this is what I see as our core front 7.

    Looking forward to seeing it. 🙂

  182. ocalarob says:

    Depth chart is out, Kindley gets the start at RG, I would assume he beat out Dieter, Davis at RT beating out Hunt and Jackson at LT. That;s 2 rookies starting on our OL

    https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/MIA

  183. ocalarob says:

    Mack Hollins made the team, Wentz said the guy is a little strange personality wise, the eagles dumped him last november, picked in the 4th rnd hasnt produced for them, he’s a big possession type rec who may be a great slot guy.
    we shall see, he must have talent to make the 53.

    • steveccnv says:

      In Phil he wasn’t used as much more than a blocking WR. Easy to see why Wentz didn’t throw to him. He didn’t do much for us last year after we claimed him off of waivers. Wondering if he’s not long for the 53.

      4.53 40, but got hurt during his run, thought to be a 4.53 guy.

      Somebody saw something with him. Maybe a 6’4″ WRs are coveted by us more than we think.

  184. wyoming85 says:

  185. steveccnv says:

    Our cap is down to 16.45M. We took a 5M hit for Rosen, 2M for the PS and a little for guys Like Raekwon and Adrian Colbert.

  186. wyoming85 says:

  187. steveccnv says:

    As reported by the NY Times, up to 90% of the positive tests for covid have such a small amount of the disease, that they shouldn’t have been counted.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Took me a minute to translate, but interesting. I wonder what the threshold is for detection and for actually being sick. Whether it is something that most people have already, but are mostly unaffected, like people with cold sores. Lots of people have the virus that carries them, but that doesn’t mean their lips are falling off all the time.

  188. pheloniusphish says:

    So anyone here to defend the BLM thugs who assaulted the elderly couple in the Pittsburgh restaurant?

  189. ocalarob says:

    I have right clicked and used “open link in incognito window” to defeat paywall, not sure if it still works.

  190. ocalarob says:

    what’s even worse is the democratic party supports this anarchy.

  191. ocalarob says:

    a simple case of vote for me or else!

    • steveccnv says:

      Biden said, if he doesn’t win the protest will continue, but that’s just Joe, being Joe, so…joe

    • stangerx says:

      You listened to any of the Trump commercials lately? Apparently if we don’t elect him the some really, really bad things are gonna happen. So seems a two-street on that strategy.

      • steveccnv says:

        Those bad things are already happening, and the left run cities don’t want to stop them. How do you feel about that?

      • stangerx says:

        steve — feel that inner city unrest has been a problem my whole life. But now people act like it is new.

      • steveccnv says:

        I’m pretty sure you’re the only one that thinks what’s going on now is comparable to the untested your entire life, but that wasn’t the question.

      • stangerx says:

        Well if I am the only one who thinks that then I am. Maybe you are too young to remember the Rodney King riots. Canceled classes at my school cause were spreading nationwide.

  192. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – The Democratic party has stood right behind and outwardly supports the BLM organization. There’s no disputing that. Not sure what you’re saying.

    • steveccnv says:

      Really Mike? Did they actually bow down to them in a formal setting or something?

    • stangerx says:

      I’m just cause one idiot who is part of a group does something that it does not mean all members of that group support it. One-third of the country is Dem and one-third GOP. Every time either a Dem or Republican does something nasty does that mean the party approves of that action?

      • steveccnv says:

        But the left does approve of BLM. How do you feel about that? I guess you take that as rhetorical, since you won’t answer, so you must approve of BLM too.

      • stangerx says:

        I think the BLM is fairly extremist, or at least the extreme parts of it are. Others want to go the MLK way, which I respect even if don’t agree 100% with the policy objectives. Sometimes I think you forget I’m a Republican.

      • steveccnv says:

        Sometimes I think you forget you’re a Republican. MLK was trying to get equal rights, totally different than the anarchy and Marxism that BLM is working on.

      • stangerx says:

        I was talking the MLK non-violent way, not policy. I’ve written before about the BLM stuff around here. Daytime is the MLK way and then when the rally is over the bad stuff happened. I think that more about hooligans who saw their chance than BLM organizing it.

      • steveccnv says:

        Why does it matter what you do in the day, if you’re burning and looting at night?

        On the sexual offender: well he was so nice to everyone of us. I didn’t think he could do that.

  193. steveccnv says:

    The problem is an anarchist group is using a social justice issue to push their Marxists ways. Why would any SJW stand with them? Ignorance, or gas lighted who knows.

  194. Mike E. says:

    I’m totally for the MLK way, and I’m sure some people in BLM and others that support it believe it could be that way, but I think as a whole, they’ve proven they’re not. That’s why I can’t get behind that movement. I’m all for black rights, but I don’t think the police are the biggest problem. Once they can come to grips that they have been their own worst enemy, they can change things for the better.

    • stangerx says:

      Don’t support BLM but do support the right of the people in it to air their grievances and protest. Figure that’s what democracy is about. Now when them doing that leads to chaos….. I would crack down. But then the chaos part is only in a couple places at this point.

      But yeah they have a whole lot more to deal with than just police shootings. They do galvanize their communities though.

      • steveccnv says:

        But the people protesting have aligned with BLM as have the left.

        If Trump didn’t disavow the KKK, even without having anything to do with them. The MSM would be all over his ass, and put the country in an uproar, yet when the left does worse it’s no problem. Why?

  195. pheloniusphish says:

    BLM = KKK

  196. pheloniusphish says:

    Stanger – …”does that mean the party approves of that action?” It does when they do nothing to stop it, actively encourage it, and never denounce it. When you vote for Biden/Harris in November that is exactly what you are voting for. Racism, anarchy, violence and lawlessness.

    • stangerx says:

      You seen how many prominent Republicans have said they will vote for Racism, anarchy, violence and lawlessness? Never seen anything like it in my 50+ years. Must be something new in the water.

      • steveccnv says:

        Establishment Republicans are worse than Democrats that back that, because they’re corrupt.

      • stangerx says:

        Why does John Kasich voting for Biden make him corrupt? Not asking you to agree with his choice but do you think he’s getting paid for it?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        I’ve seen a few that have been voted out or retired say they were voting democrat. Have seen any sitting representatives say that. Could have missed one though. They all have one thing in common…they are part of the DC political establishment.

      • stangerx says:

        Phelon — a whole lot more than a few. Lincoln Project is out there bashing Trump better than Biden does…… and they are hardcore conservative GOP folks. And no the sitting folks don’t do that, but Romney and Murkowski did. When’s the last time saw sitting Senator’s say might not vote for their party’s candidate?

  197. pheloniusphish says:

    Steve – No difference between democrat and republican establishment.

  198. pheloniusphish says:

    Stanger – Kasich is a Never Trumper and part of the clique. I don’t hear him condemning anything going on either. To appropriate a phrase – Political Silence is Violence.

    • stangerx says:

      Ever heard of NeverReagan or NeverBush? Sorta of my point. But Trump did a takeover of the GOP. If he doesn’t win in November gonna be interesting to see what happens. Whole thing could break apart.

Leave a Reply

Please log in using one of these methods to post your comment:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s