2020 Season – Week 1 – Dolphins @ Patriots

This is easily the strangest opening to a season that I can remember. I don’t recall knowing this little about our team at this point of the season, just 3 days before our season opener. What I do know is our team is a very young team, 2 of the young ones pictured will likely determine our success or demise this Sunday. Rookie starting LT Austin Jackson is getting his first start of hopefully a very long successful career but it will be difficult task going up against a Bill Belichick team. It doesn’t matter what the names are on the New England defense, he will disguise and confuse even the savviest OL, so both Austin Jackson (LT) and big Solomon Kindley (RG) will have to be on point. If you were to subtract the age of our starting QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, we’re trotting out a very young team. Jackson (21), Flowers (26), Karras (27), Kindley (23) and Davis, the elder statesman at 29. Devante Parker (27), Preston Williams (23), Jakeem Grant (27), Mike Gesicki (24), Durham Smythe (25), Jordan Howard (25) and Chandler Cox (24). The average of the 12 listed (including both TE Durham Smythe and FB Chandler Cox) is 25 years old. Throw in these important factors, very little practice time, no preseason games, a lot of new faces put together, facing a seasoned master in Bill Belichick and there is a chance that many things can go wrong. On the other hand, I think Flores will have our team prepared and I do believe we can see success against the Patriots this Sunday.

That was just our offense, our defense is quite young as well. I’ll spare you the lists with ages but the average age is 25.5 years old. LB Kyle Van Noy is the elder at 30 on the defense. The depth is really young as well, on both sides. It’s a great start in year 1 of the rebuild, it really is. Yes, it was disappointing to jettison Raekwon McMillan who no longer fit our needs because we’ve been doing this for a long time, drafting talent, changing schemes and then purging the talent that doesn’t fit. Hopefully with Flores and Grier we’re done with that cycle. Picking up WR/RB/QB Lynn Bowden from the Raiders make me think we’re not going to be the 1 WR, 2 TE rushing attack a lot of the time. I think we’re looking for playmakers all over the place and in today’s NFL, that’s wise. You have to score to keep up. Nothing like being able to run a game out but you have to be up in order to do that. You can’t stop the best teams from scoring, that’s a fact. You have to be able to keep up. I don’t really know what to expect from our defense. I know we have really shored up the back end with a quality secondary by adding Byron Jones to Xavien Howard for s shutdown duo of CB’s and a fine young rookie NB in Noah Igbinoghene. Bobby McCain will be the centerfielder while Eric Rowe will likely be closer to the LOS. What will be interesting to see how we use the LB’s and DL and in what combinations. Baker and Roberts will patrol the middle with Ogbah and Van Noy on the outside. Of course there will be various formations and Lawson and Strowbridge and Van Ginkel will be a part of. Looking forward to seeing all the pieces in play and even if we’re not successful this Sunday, at least hoping we see signs that things are going to be better.

I look forward to seeing DeVante Parker starting strong and seeing Preston Williams all the way back from injury. Can Jakeem Grant hold off the competition for slot play from Mack Hollins, Malcolm Perry and Lynn Bowden? Will we actually be able to run the ball effectively? Will our young OL be able to pass protect for Ryan Fitzpatrick or will he be running for his life as he did last season. Will our front 7 be able to generate a pass rush for a change? Will the three headed CB combo of Howard, Jones and Iggy be one of the NFL’s best? Can Rowe make the switch to safety and is Bobby Mac ready to resume his role of safety and stay healthy? A lot of questions loom, as the even bigger question that is silent at the moment, but you know when does Tua play is lurking not so stealthily in the shadows. It’s there, because as soon as Fitz has his bad day, it will rear it’s ugly head and be right there in the forefront. For now at least, it hides.

Keep in mind that Bill Belichick desperately wants to answer the question “Was it Belichick or Brady” with a resounding Belichick! Tom Brady, sickeningly so has been anointed NFC MVP and is already in the fucking Superbowl against Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. It’s disgusting! I guess the NFL needs a storyline and now instead of seeing New England Patriots 24/7 it’s the freaking Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Brady every second. I think Brady has the better chance to succeed with all that talent on the roster but never count the master Belichick out. True, he won’t have his stalwart QB Brady running the offense anymore and I’m not much of a Cam fan, I think he’s been one of the most overrated QB’s in the game. I don’t think he deserves a marquis, he’s a JAG. If he’s healthy, he’s a threat to run and I think that’s where he’s most dangerous to the opposition. If he’s back there slinging it, I think he’s more dangerous to his own team. It’s going to be fun watching this game, so many angles to come together to make this game a must watch.



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1,218 Responses to 2020 Season – Week 1 – Dolphins @ Patriots

  1. Mike E. says:

    Ken, did you see that play where Kindley didn’t even get close to making the block? He looked really slow. He’s probably a good run blocker creating some space right in front of him. He may also have to adjust to the speed of the NFL, he may have thought he had more time. We’ll see how he does going forward.

  2. olddolphan says:

    IF SOMEONE were to tell me that Fitzpatrick would have one of his worst games as a Dolphin (3 interceptions, NO Touchdown passes) I would have responded “We’re gonna get killed.” If the same person had told me we’d be outgained on the ground by almost 4 to 1, I would have said “WE’RE REALLY GONNA GET SLAUGHTERED!” Well, we didn’t. We were in the game until there were about 2 minutes left. THIS ISN’T the 59 point slaughter Young Stanger and I saw a year ago. It was a competitive game, for the most part.
    The loss of Parker was a factor. But not a HUGE factor. Ford made a couple of nice plays while he was in there. The bigger factor was Miami’s inability to control the line of scrimmage on either side of the ball. Now we DID DRAFT players to address these issues. And some of them (maybe MOST OF THEM) figure to become reliable players in the future with the help of an upgraded coaching staff. I BELIEVE Miami, with its plethora of young players, suffered the most from a lack of preseason games. But, as the Fins get further through their schedule, the staff will figure out who can play right now and who CAN’T PLAY RIGHT NOW. So I definitely expect some improvement next week, even tho’ we’ll be playing maybe the best team in our division (BUFFALO).
    FITZY doesn’t figure to stink it up this bad next week. He’ll be better. Our O-Line and D-Line will make adjustments. And, with a bit of luck, we’ll have a chance to WIN THIS GAME in the final quarter. THAT’S a BIG IMPROVEMENT over this time last season!

  3. Mike E. says:

    D’Andre Swift just dropped the game winning TD. Easy catch too.

  4. Mike E. says:

    I had a feeling we were going to have trouble containing Newton. I didn’t fear him passing on us because he sucks, but he’s a load on the ground when healthy. We also guessed wrong a lot on RPO’s which was killing us. We did adjust, but next time I expect it to be very different.

  5. Mike E. says:

    Everyone crying in their beer?

  6. wyoming85 says:

    Looks like Brady & Bill got joint custody of the Ref’s!! 😦

  7. olddolphan says:

    NOT ME: BRAYDEN POINT is playing and The Lightning just took a 2-1 lead over the NYI in the second period!! GOO-O-O Bolts!

  8. D says:

    I cant stand that roach antenna hairstyle of Newton.

  9. D says:

    Overall against a team they couldn’t really prep for with Newton in a new scheme no tape no off-season games even. It wasn’t the worst game, though they have a lot to clean up. We will see with our next meeting if we improved any against them

  10. wyoming85 says:

  11. D says:

    OL was much improved though if we are looking for silver linings. Running game was ok to start off but we had to kinda abandon it.

  12. stangerx says:

    This is my main problem: “The Dolphins gave up 217 rushing yards on 5.2 yards per carry.” Are those coverage LBs just not built to stop the run?

    • stangerx says:

      And add in the lack of a thumper safety.

      • D says:

        Yeah but that’s not how we are using safeties and I really agree with that decision. We should have gotten a lot more from the DL

    • D says:

      DL wasn’t great. I don’t think you can put that in the LBs too much. It’s was going to be tough on them with Newton and it was pretty rough until they made adjustments

      • stangerx says:

        Saw lots of 2nd level mistakes….. and yeah put that on the people back there. Same time understand Newton is a most different kind of QB. Even if he doesn’t have the ball he impacts the play.

  13. Krishna says:

    One of the tougher teams to beat. Bill’s, too.

    Let’s see them grow. C’mon Fitz!

  14. Krishna says:

    I didn’t think the line was stout. Struggled.

    Wilkins was a beast!

    • D says:

      Yeah he had a pretty solid game with pressure and swatting down passed but he wasn’t perfect, he didn’t help much congesting the LOS against the run. Had a couple of big runs right through his gap.

  15. D says:

    I thought Kindley did pretty good outside the one play Mike mentioned where he didn’t pick up the right guy. One big mistake on the rookie isn’t something to worry over, not yet at least.

  16. D says:

    Jackson had a decent game but there is a lot to improve on. Lots to work with though.

  17. wyoming85 says:

    The only question I have is about the RB rotation????

    WTF is up with that?????

    • Ken says:

      Actually seem to work okay. Gaskins looks good, Jordan did what you want him to do but we need more Breida

    • stangerx says:

      Dude I was gonna mention that. We going RB posse? At one point was thinking Howard must be hurt but then they trotted him out for the short yardage goal line stuff. He’s supposed to be our work horse back.

      • D says:

        I think it’s too early to think that’s how all the games are going to be. They were testing them all out, and a lot of that will play into later in the season. If we establish we can do it with whomever we have in there the better off the offense will be later on.

    • D says:

      Rotating the RBs makes sense early to kinda see how best to use them.

  18. D says:

    LBs had the toughest job this game. They had to help contain Newton and yet try to protect the zone against the middle routes and with no real prep they were solid I think. New England has an offense that runs multiple plays from the same looks and with Newton that makes things even tougher than with Brady.

  19. D says:

    Lots of learning in this game but it wasn’t a blow out and we saw a lot of good signs. I wasn’t thinking it would be a blow out but I did kind of think it was going to be a rough game. It wasn’t sloppy and all the bad I saw are fixable so just is what it is.

  20. D says:

    We didn’t get burned in the secondary. We didn’t get a lot of pressure but we got some. Containment wasn’t too bad which that is why we sacrificed some of the outside pressure.

  21. D says:

    Losing Parker hurt a lot because we are already skinny at WR. I would have put Brieda out there in the receiver spot some when Parker went out but that’s the kinda adjustments that are for the coaches to figure out. The coaching was solid but improvements to be made on handling some of that too

  22. stangerx says:

    Leading rushers versus the Pats
    (And Laird got 2 receptions, even if no rushes)

    Myles Gaskin — 9 for 40 yards.
    Matt Breida 5 for 22 yards
    Ryan Fitzpatrick 5 for 18 yards
    Jordan Howard 8 for 7 yards (TD)

  23. Ken says:

    Brady just picked 😃

    • wyoming85 says:

      Lazy ass Evens quit the route! 🙂

    • stangerx says:

      I’ll have to give the NWO overlord of American Football a call about that. Clearly was a mistake. Or maybe all bets are off about Brady this year since the Evil One is on the global ruling council. So much politics in any entity. 🙂

  24. wyoming85 says:

    Well at least Fitz didn’t lead us in rushing!

  25. Mike E. says:

    I didnt hear Shaq Lawson or Ogbah’s name all day. Van Noy also a non factor

  26. Ken says:

    Brady sacked 😀

  27. olddolphan says:

    BOLTS BEAT ISLANDERS 4-1. BRAYDEN POINT scored one of the goals. Dallas Leads the VGK 3 games to 1; and Tampa Bay leads the NYI 3-1. IF it ends up Dallas vs, Tampa Bay in the FINALS, I like the Lightning’s chances IF they can stay healthy

  28. Tim Knight says:

    Then again the Browns played today. LOL

  29. wyoming85 says:

  30. olddolphan says:

    The Dolphins next game will also present the problem of a big QB who happens to be a VERY effective runner. And the Pride of FAU, the one and only Devin Singletary, will be looking to have a big day running the ball for the Bills in front of many of his “BOYZ”–his fellow football players at FAU, past and present, who reside in south Florida.. MIAMI MUST CONTROL ALLEN AND SINGLETARY if this game is to be competitive!!!

  31. Ken says:

    Cam was upset we broke his necklace

  32. Tim Knight says:

    It wasn’t a talent issue today. We got out-coached. Bill was inspired to shove it up Brian’s ass after last year. We acted like Cam wasn’t the QB. WTF?!!!

  33. Ken says:

    Brady pick 6. 🥰🤡😍😎😋🤩

  34. steveccnv says:

    What happened with the time out the cheats called in the first half? Did it go something like this, ref walks over to Belicheat during the commercial and says, you know, if you don’t take the TO the first qtr will run out. Ok, then I don’t want the TO. 5 minutes after the TO was taken it seemed like they just ran the clock out.

    I had no sound, so I don’t know.

  35. steveccnv says:

    Brady with 3rd pick six in last 3 games.

  36. wyoming85 says:

    Brady with a pick six!

    Odds are improving for a Billecheat was the genius!

  37. steveccnv says:

    Saints player goes in motion, when he gets to the end of the OL he turns upfield just before the snap and doesn’t get set. I’ve seen us get an infraction for that many times.

  38. Mike E. says:

    Belichick is the master. He always changed things up and adapted to make things easier for Brady and Brady always flourished with those small, quick receivers who made things happen after short passes. Plus, the Patriots always had a good defense. Brady was great with Belichick but not sure if he would be as good as Kirk Cousins if he was drafted by the Team formerly known as the Redskins.

  39. wyoming85 says:

    Mondo is a dick!
    I am glad I’ve muted Omar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  40. Ken says:

    Brady getting hit 😍

  41. steveccnv says:

    Any other season I would be rooting for Tampa Bay Bucs. Just can’t do it this year.

  42. steveccnv says:

    Lol kickoff

    • steveccnv says:

      Always pisses me off when the Fins kickoff from midfield and blast it thru the endzone. Pouch that bitch or do something creative, like the Saints just did.

  43. Ken says:

    Wow Burrow just did a great drive and FG missed chip shot FG to tie game

  44. steveccnv says:

    Brady 2 TDs 2 Ints and not many yards, bet they wish they still had Winston 😉. He threw the picks too, but had lots of yards.

  45. Ken says:

    So much for the TB SB hype

  46. Mike E. says:

    Looks like Canadian bacon today, no Pig roast. Oinkinator scoring big

  47. steveccnv says:

    It was quite the chit show at the local sportsbook. The guy sitting next to me, long wrap around bench, was doing more walking around than sitting, he was with 2 other guys saving his seat, so people kept asking if the seat was taken. On the other side was a guy about 4 feet away.

    One guy asks about the seat on my right, I said taken, then he asked about the space on my left, I said we’re social distancing. He said well there’s no place to sit, so I said get here earlier. He said I’m going to talk to security, but got no where. What an asshole he thought, because HE didn’t have a place to sit he could squeeze in.

    Another guy in front of me, not sure what his problem was, but after the 4th time security had to visit him they threw him out.

    Another to my left front kept trying to steal people’s chairs, they had him move along.

  48. CavalierKong says:

    Well, not sure about everyone else, but nflbite was overloadedwith traffic when the game began and I couldn’t get on, but sportsurge worked perfectly for me all game. A couple times it froze up, but when i hit refresh it quickly started right back up. NFL bite worked for me in the afternoon. I use the Markeyy stream on both sites.

    As for the game, we got bad Fitz today, and boy did he stink. This is why he doesn’t stick on teams. He’s very consistently up and down, lol.

    Overall we played a crappy game from top to bottom. I’m not surprised at all. I didn’t really expect us to go in and win that game. We have a very young team with a bunch of new faces. It’s probably going to take few games for all the pieces to start clicking. The encouraging thing is, we really played bad but we were in it at the end. We really should have lost this game by 20.

    I’m extremely frustrated with Parker. Every year with this guy. And it’s a hammy, so this will probably be an issue all f^cking season unless we sit him for a month, smh.

    Our offensive scheme looked pretty damn basic. Part of that is being a very young team, part of that is Gailey. I’m not confident in Gailey.

    Refs were terrible today, but that is nothing new.

  49. brady is pitiful in tampa, lol the old man is just milking the bucs for a paycheck

    the DOlphins run defense was not ready for prime time today, but much of that was due to cam playing very well,

    the team is going to be good, but still missing some pieces and the defense has to make plays and not watch plays

  50. we may as well start Tua,

    FITz is a complete waste of time, he isnt good throwing or running, and hes a human interception machine

  51. i watched the game on CBS access, its $5.99 a month, but it was high definition on the big screen, with no fooling around on the puter or hoping for internet

    the Dolphins fox broadcast games are free if you sign in with your provider

    • CavalierKong says:

      That works because it’s your local broadcast. That won’t work for us west coasters where the Fins games are almost never national, and rarely local.

      You could probably get those same broadcasts for free with a HD antenna, although if I remember correctly, you built a new home in a more remote location, so maybe HD antenna won’t work for you.

  52. Mike E. says:

    Miles Gaskin was a much bigger part of the offense than I expected and he certainly played like he wants it to stay that way. Not sure why Preston Williams kept slipping, it’s fucking turf, not grass. I’m not on the start Tua train just yet, I think Fitz deserves a little time and there’s nothing wrong with letting our O-line jell a little before he gets thrown in there. Fitz makes stepping up and avoiding pressure look easy because he sees it and understands how to counter it. Tua won’t be able to do that and I don’t need to see our big investment getting crushed quite yet.

    • Mike E. says:

      oops, Myles Gaskin

    • CavalierKong says:

      Gaskins was one of the few dolphins that looked good all game.

      I agree it’s too early for Tua talk. It’s one game with no preseason. Let’s give it a few games before pulling that trigger.

      • olddolphan says:

        “TRIGGER?” – – Did someone say “TRIGGER?”
        I think “Trigger” was stuffed and is now standing
        on Roy Roger’s Farm somewhere out west.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Big win for your Lightning. Only need one more of the next 3…

    • Ken says:

      No need to rush Tua

      • olddolphan says:

        CAVKONG: GLAD you got a chuckle out of that one. I figured you were old enough to know who “Trigger” was!!
        BTW, your boy Pat Maroon, who won the Stanley Cup last season with your Blues, is playing a very key role in The Lightning’s playoff success this season. NO ONE from the other side wants to rumble with Pat Maroon, do they??

  53. Mike E. says:

    Breida also looked pretty strong. One run in particular he showed some nice running power, I think it may be been disqualified because it may have exceeded 10 yards though. Shame . . .

  54. olddolphan says:

    YOU CAN LOOK at this game and wonder “What might have been” if two plays had turned out differently. PLAY #1: Miami punts after their first series and the Pats kick receiver fumbles it. The ball went directly to another Pats player who recovered it. Had the ball moved in ANY different position, Miami may well have had a 1st and 10 near New England’s 15 yard line. That’s at least 3 points for the Fins and maybe 7.

    PLAY #2: GESECKI IS TACKLED on Fitzy’s last interception!! Had pass interference been called, Miami would have had 1st and goal at the Pats’ ONE YARD LINE! That’s 7 points for Miami in my book!

    YES, you can play “WHAT IF” until the cows come home. BUT THIS MIAMI TEAM REALLY WAS a couple of plays from being “RIGHT THERE” as they played down to the wire. You certainly can NOT make that statement regarding The Dolphins first game last season where they gave up 59 points to the Ravens. IF the Fins can improve their line play in next Sunday’s game vs. BUFFALO, they may be “RIGHT THERE” at the end of THAT GAME. AND I THINK there’s less chance of some mysterious penalties or some mysterious NON-CALLS next Sunday in Ross’s Palace.

  55. CavalierKong says:

    So the crowd noise was pumped into the Pets stadium. After watching that, then watching the same thing with the Niners game, I can say I’m not a huge fan of it. The noise isn’t dynamic, so it’s not situational.

    Fan noise gives contextual clues throughout the game that you come to expect, but with generic noise, it’s slightly off at times. It’s subtle, but annoying. After a few games to adjust, it’ll probably get better, but it was definitely something I noticed.

    Of course, I’ll take the generic noise over no noise, so I guess there’s that.

  56. CavalierKong says:

    OD, losing Maroon was a big blow for the Blues. We’ll probably lose Pietrangelo this offseason, which means our ‘run’ is over, lol.

    • steveccnv says:

      Is that really him? This picture looks like the Hulu commercial with Mayfield and Barkley in scrawney kids bodies with their face.

  57. steveccnv says:

    I’m almost embarrassed to say that OPI at the end of the Dallas vs Rams game was a good call, but what the hell, if the cheats can get away with all of those calls/non-calls…

  58. ElephantRider says:


    I had no issues with nflbite today. But I’m going to give that sportsurge a try too.

    As far as the game. Meh. Lol.
    No way Tua starts unless Fitz has a few more games like this one. Again….new team and offense with zero preseason…
    I did expect the D to play better, especially when I can even see what’s coming.

  59. steveccnv says:

    The Rams win the worst uniform contest. At least the dumbasses could’ve gotten some feedback before throwing that God awful union on us. Looks like a div II uni.

  60. wyoming85 says:

    Well at least this didn’t happen to the Fins!

  61. wyoming85 says:

    • steveccnv says:

      Here’s what I got from that;

      Also, the Miami defenders had difficulty getting off of blocks which gave Newton plenty of momentum to get his 6’5″ frame moving downhill.

      It’s very difficult to stop this type of RPO, especially against the cheats, when you can’t get off of blocks. Based on how I saw the game officiated, I assume the typical cheats holding was allowed without getting called.

  62. wyoming85 says:

  63. ocalarob says:

    i had seen shaq lawson totally getting fooled by cam newton, he doesnt set the edge very well thats for sure!

  64. bookman11 says:

    I agree with the 3 takeaways mentioned above in the post Wyoming put up.
    I would add that the OL did look respectable, and if that continues, I would like to see Tua get his chance sooner rather than later. That might help increase those explosive plays.

    • steveccnv says:

      I’m looking for Tua against Buffalo, but to be fair to Fitz PI should’ve been called on his first and last ints.

      Let’s not judge our team too hard based on what grandmaster cheat threw at them and what the refs continue to do year after year in Foxboro and every place else they play.

  65. The Flying Pig says:

    Brandon Jones had 10 tackles yesterday
    It’s good to see him active.
    It won’t matter if we give up 200 yards rushing
    But it’s nice to see him contributing early

    Jones, Kindley and Jackson are off to a pretty good start

    Noah I. Was on the files a lot too. 37 snaps on D and 8 on ST

    A lot of playing time for these rooks out of the gate

  66. ocalarob says:

    rams unis were great back in the day, with the simple blue with the white horn, roman gabriel, they then went to the gold horn which wasn’t good, they went back to the blue and white last couple of years, they looked great. last nights unis were horrific! a 5 billion dollar stadium with a rag suit!

  67. ocalarob says:

    we got crushed in the run game, our run D gave up a lot of yards, had it not been for ne fumbling the ball out of the endzone it wouldve been a blowout.
    our D couldn’t get off the field and our O looked sluggish at best.

  68. New Age says:


    I wasn’t impressed with either expensive addition at DE. No sacks, not enough pressure and neither set the edge well. Their OL manhandled our DL.

  69. The Flying Pig says:

    People were asking “where’s Xavien Howard” yesterday
    He was actually on the field for less snaps than both rookie dbs yesterday
    Which in interesting. Not sure what to make of that

  70. The Flying Pig says:

    • The Flying Pig says:

      It kind of went unnoticed bc the game was so miserable to watch
      But a lot of rookies got a lot of playing time yesterday

    • steveccnv says:

      13 for Smythe, SMH at the U75s that couldn’t figure out he was at the top of the depth chart, because he was going to be on the field for our first offensive play or do they just like to make a mountain out of…

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I saw him on the field on our first Offesnive play too

        And my first thought was that some one had reported he was clinging to his job.

        We will see over the course of the year if they like the smythe/gesicki combo
        But being on the field on the first play for Smythe kind of speaks to what the coaches think of him in a positive way

  71. The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t know if it’s too early to say this
    But we have 7 picks in the first 4 rounds in in the 2021 draft

  72. steveccnv says:

    We should just take the positives from game 1 and move on. Gaskin looks like an NFL RB, Wilkins looks great, Baker all over the field. The rest of the guys need to forget about NE and move on to Buffalo.

  73. steveccnv says:

    Also remember this D is setup to be better as a unit, then a bunch of individual stats, so it may take a few works to get synched up.

  74. steveccnv says:

    The incident at the end of the game with cam crying about someone going after his chains. What an asshole, he started talking smack, got in someone’s face, pushed him away, then another Fin got in cam’s face and that’s when I think the chain got tugged on, but he wasn’t going after your chain dipshit.

    Then you can see cam walking away holding his hamstring. He’s not going to get thru the entire season trying to play RPO.

    • D says:

      He held Baker down too when Baker was trying to get up and then Baker pushed himself off and got the flag. Cam is a fucking asshole and always has been.

  75. D says:

    It’s wasn’t as bad a game as y’all are making out. I mean I’m guessing I’m playing Tim today and trying to talk some sense into y’all but it really wasn’t that bad broke down.

    The OL was actually a good bit better than it has been. That’s with 4 out of 5 players new to the team and two rookies.

    The DBs kept everything in front of them. I thought they played pretty well overall.

    The LBs saddled with a tough game were ok, but again, tough assignment any game, they were the weak spot, along with the DL as far as run protection goes. We did get decent pressure from the middle of the DL.
    The outside pressure was there on occasion but like I said yesterday you lose outside pass rush when you are trying to contain a mobile QB especially out if run formations which most of their passing comes out if run formations. That’s the beauty of the NE offense.

    I don’t see a ton to complain about no one was 100% but no one was 50% or less really.

    • steveccnv says:

      I kind of agree, but I don’t think we were prepared for RPO and that’s on the coaches.

      Really hard though to play a team like NE week 1, coming off of this offseason, with so many young players.

      • D says:

        Yeah the deck was really stacked against them. New look Pats with a new look Cam, no PS, lots of new players, lots of rookies. It woulda been tough if they had anyone out there, but the RPO turned the difficulty up a few notches. Woulda been the same had they had Tyrod in there instead of Newton

  76. steveccnv says:

    Josh Allen looked explosive yesterday at times, then missed a wide open receiver, high, in the back of the endzone. I think with him you balance the completion % with his ability to keep plays alive, then you’ll see he’s by far the best QB in our division. He’s a real threat running, throwing, and scrambling.

    • D says:

      Think it was me and Ken that were ride or die with him that yeah for us in the draft. He was my favorite of that QB class and I’m generally not sold on small school prospects. Not an I told ya so, but he definitely is growing as a QB, not there yet but getting scary. Maybe by the time he gets there they will have to hit the team around him just to keep him.

      • steveccnv says:

        Then there’s the how long can he run around back there before he gets banged up and has to rely on his arm.

        Wilson and Moon are the only ones I can recall that did it for a long time. Wilson still gets downfield, but not as often as he used to.

      • D says:

        Kinda look at him like an Elway. Elway wasn’t a runner but his pocket movement was really good and he would get out if the pocket shift around and then set and throw. Plus they have similarly strong arms.

  77. D says:

    Yeah that other 4th is gone to them we swapped there as well and I think got a 6th back in return.

  78. The Flying Pig says:

    Didn’t we get a 4th bc of the McMillan “trade”

  79. steveccnv says:

    Omar is already gearing up his annual week 1 projection stat article. If you project out 16 weeks we’ll give up over 3200 yards on the ground, and throw 48 picks…

    • wyoming85 says:

      I’ve found my life much more pleasant after I muted him! 😉

      • D says:

        I mean you can mute most of them and make your life more pleasant. I don’t know that I have seen a press group more in love with shitting on the local team. You do not see that in the NO media nor in the ATL media, I’m close enough to both to see those articles.

  80. The Flying Pig says:

    I totally missed the Bowden trade

  81. Mike E. says:

    I think in retrospect I’m a little disappointed that we weren’t better prepared for Cam running and the RPO. I would have made him beat us through the air. Like Belichick always does, he takes one thing away that you do well and makes you beat him a different way, we should have don the same. It’s also possible with so many new guys we just aren’t there yet.

    • D says:

      Like I was saying on game day they didn’t seem to think they would do much of that. I don’t know if it was because he was coming off injury or what but they played like they were facing a Brady run Pats team. I was calling for them to shift to cover two or 1 and bring Jones in to help be a spy on Newton and the did sorta kinda make that adjustment which then McDaniels shifted it hitting us with the normal NE stuff out of the same formations. It was a tough matchup for a week 1.

      Coaching was one of the strongest adjustments I think is needed before game two. Things were a big dull and it made it easy for NE to scheme to hit us where we were weak. Again, just a tough match up, got out coached, got out played in a few areas. Is what it is, we should do better next matchup.

  82. wyoming85 says:

    He’s the only one I’ve muted.

    It’s not his Dolphin “hating”!

    It’s his other social views that I don’t care for.

    • D says:

      Well yeah he is a blatant racist, and doesn’t seem to be of the mind he is or that it’s a bad thing at least. I tolerate him, definitely don’t respect him, I get what little I can from his “reporting” which is very little. Wasn’t really defending him in any way, I just feel similarly about a lot of the others too.

  83. wyoming85 says:

  84. wyoming85 says:

  85. wyoming85 says:

  86. The Flying Pig says:

  87. Mike E. says:

    They were good at tackling, bad at guessing who was going to be the ballcarrier

    • Rockphin says:

      I saw a lot of holding offensive guys up off the ground while letting other defenders try and strip the ball instead of just tackling the carrier to the ground. I understand trying to get a turn over, but I didn’t like giving up 1st downs while trying to do so!

      • steveccnv says:

        The only thing on tackling that bothers me more is when a DB throws a shoulder at a ball carrier instead of wrapping up.

        Every team in the league goes thru these same strip the ball drills, but I would think it would be better to use it less downfield and just make the tackle. When used too often you give up too many extra yards and don’t have the element of surprise.

  88. steveccnv says:

    Sometimes it’s better to lose the first game to keep the players focused. Don’t get me wrong, I never want to lose an opener, but by losing players put more effort into the next game and continue with more focus.

    I’m just trying to find some positives here, that we can take into next week.

  89. steveccnv says:

    The play calling was way to predictable with Howard in the game, it was like short yardage running.

    The focus of the D was, Jordan in with an FB or 2 TEs we’ll stack the box.

    Come on man, you gotta give him a fighting chance.

  90. Ken says:

    It is not necessarily a good thing that Brandon Jones made so many tackles. You want more tackles out of your LBs in particular Van Noy and Lawson

    • steveccnv says:

      I think everyone agrees, but the point being made was he’s a good tackler and was engaged in the game. Brought up because we really don’t know much about him.

      Also they allow the cheats WRs to get away with massive holding, so good to see his tackle nunbers.

  91. Ken says:

    You are correct I was a big fan of Allen in the draft and still am. I would often compare but a better runner. He is still developing as a passer but had a real good game yesterday with the first 300 yard passing game in many years for the Bills

  92. manitobafinfan says:

    wow, Piggie put up a shit ton o points yesterday … 50 PTS from Connor tonight ?? Possible, not probable..

  93. wyoming85 says:

  94. stangerx says:

    “I still got my chain. I got two of ’em. They were reaching for my chain, though. They were reaching for my chain. And I think that kind of got under my skin.”
    — Cam Newton on why things got heated in that scrum late in the game — did he really think someone could steal them on national TV?

  95. D says:

    So Jones was brought in lik ei was saying to help in run support, i would have literally had him focus on Newton by himself and then played D as usual, i wouldnt have brought everyone to the line, i would have played the shallow and had Jones spy. Still the reason Jones was brought in and the reason his tackle numbers were high was, thats eaxctly what he was asked to do, play shallow, and stop the run. Basically they went cover 0 and cover 1 most the night after they were getting blown up by Newton and the run game early. Again, i liked the adjustment and it was working until McDaniels started attacking the new weak spot.

    • D says:

      Hate to give any props to NE but they definitely had a well coached game and a good swapping of offensive strategies to hit us where we were weak at any given point.

    • D says:

      I thought we might switch back which i wasnt hoping for by how hard they were raping us previously, an thats probably why they didnt. We almost won, and if not for 3 turnovers we would have i think.

  96. manitobafinfan says:

    3 INT and only lost by 10 in Preseason game # 1
    i’m hoping that will be the only game where we get FitzTragic this year , if it is I think we may be in good shape..
    should improve each week.. DB’s should have a good ay against Buffalo next week.. just stop Allen from running and good shot ..

    • stangerx says:

      Especially given it was the Pats, they looked presentable. Rush D bugged the heck out of me, but understand was a most unusual situation. Waiting to see what we do against a passing team. Sorta of what we are built for.

  97. wyoming85 says:

    Brian Flores Monday 9/14 media availability thread
    1:01 PM · Sep 14, 2020·Twitter Web App

    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Coach says there was some opportunities the team didn’t take advantage of Sunday. Quarterback was some of it but it was all positions. Players and coaches… everyone has to be better, coach says.
    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Coach Flores on pass protection. “It was solid, we had room to step up, time to throw it. We’re going to need similar protection this week against a really good front/defense (in Buffalo). The young guys got off to a solid start but it’s about consistency in this league.”
    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Parker is going through rehab and treatment today and tomorrow. Will have an update Wednesday, Flores says.
    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    There were a lot of issues, Flores says regarding the run defense. Setting the edge, who’s got the QB on the zone read plays, miscommunication. Coach reiterates the communication issue. Says that falls on him.

    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Coach mentions some similarities between Newton and Josh Allen next week. Gotta get better in some areas, setting the edge, tackling, technique, fundamentals.

    • stangerx says:

      “Coach reiterates the communication issue. Says that falls on him.” — now ain’t that different from when Gase would essentially call his players stupid when stuff went bad?

  98. The Flying Pig says:

    Toba has been oinkinated

  99. stangerx says:

    Just one game but it is starting already. Whole lot of make a headline that will be clicked on guys are calling for Tua to start. Not talking about our beat reporters at this point at least, more the same people who were saying “Tanking for Tua.” Don’t think they need to know much about the team, just a way to get clicks.

    But Fitz has been in the league a good while and went to Harvard….. am sure he knew what he was in for.

  100. Ken says:

    Another read option QB to deal with next week. We better have a better scheme in place

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I dont think the long term prognosis is that we are going to struggle with read option QBs

      I think we struggled with fundamentals

      Bc we are a young team that didn’t have the benefit of preseason or anything resembling an nfl game

      Did you see the snap count I posted
      It wasn’t exCely like we had Savy veterans out there

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I dont think the long term prognosis is that we are going to struggle with read option QBs

      I think we struggled with fundamentals

      Bc we are a young team that didn’t have the benefit of preseason or anything resembling an nfl team

      Did you see the snap count I posted
      It wasn’t exCellent like we had Savy veterans out there

  101. Rockphin says:


    Cam, we don’t care. You are a punk and were over acting just like a punk. Your team mates should have let go of you so you could get your ass beat down for your over acting. End of story.

    • bookman11 says:

      A punk is a good way to explain this guy. I never liked him and he always seems to validate my opinion of him.

      • stangerx says:

        Didn’t seem the Panther’s front office cared al that much about keeping him either. Attitude he does have. Might be part of why the Pats got him so cheap.

  102. Mike E. says:

    Stanger – I have no recollection of that FF game. I’m usually in 3 leagues at a minimum each year so everything just blends together

    • stangerx says:

      Well it was the best result in the league by far in it’s five years. Like some record people say will never be broken cause was done in high altitude at the Mexico City Olympics. 🙂

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Don’t worry about remembering the beat down I just gave Toba this week
      He’s already announced his willingness to get a tattoo to commemorate the score

  103. D says:

    stangerx says:
    September 14, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    Especially given it was the Pats, they looked presentable. Rush D bugged the heck out of me, but understand was a most unusual situation. Waiting to see what we do against a passing team. Sorta of what we are built for.
    You are just better off with the mobile QB’s not to over pursue so the all our rush is damaging, Its better to flush them out and make him scramble out to where you are kinda waiting. If you have good seasoned DE’s, they can pull off both, because the recognize and fall out of the rush and into contain, but being its game 1 and they wanted to contain, they probably told them not to sell out on the rush

  104. D says:

    stangerx says:
    September 14, 2020 at 2:47 pm

    Just one game but it is starting already. Whole lot of make a headline that will be clicked on guys are calling for Tua to start. Not talking about our beat reporters at this point at least, more the same people who were saying “Tanking for Tua.” Don’t think they need to know much about the team, just a way to get clicks.

    But Fitz has been in the league a good while and went to Harvard….. am sure he knew what he was in for.
    You knew it ws only a matter of time before they started that. Its a new shiny toy and they wants to plays withs itsssss my precious!

  105. D says:

    Allen isnt as much of a threat in RPO as CAM and the CAM game tape will help them be better prepared. I think this is great to have a back to back chance for the team to grow.

  106. D says:

    Cam has always had a shitty attitude. He left UF because he didnt wanna wait behind Tebow, and he literally left right before he was going to be the starter. He was getting in trouble stealing things back then even though he comes from a fairly wealthy home, so that tells you he just wants the attention,he will get it however he can, like calling out players trying to rip off his chain. I Never wore my chain when i played, thats just dumb to start with in a game where grabbing you and pullingis part of the action.

  107. The Flying Pig says:

    So I think, with my new fantasy success I should do a solid for the community and give some fantasy pointers

    1. Complete lack of preparation. I didn’t read anything about any player rankings for the 2020 year. I wasn’t even sure we were going to play football in 2020.

    2. Autodraft. As I was requesting links yesterday to watch the game I thought about asking when our draft was.

    3. I forgot my password. That’s right: I only logged on after hearing you guys talk about my score. My last log in was probably November 2019.

    If you follow these steps, you too can be a fantasy football colossus!

  108. D says:

    We are slowly but surely losing standard QB technique to RPO, so this test was a good one and next week is a good next one and not just for the players but the coaches, the change to the NFL had already started but its quickly getting there to where soon thats the way all team we will be. We will be too once Tua takes over.

    • stangerx says:

      If that is the way all teams will be then we are building the wrong D. Could have used McMillan on Sunday.

      • D says:

        No we are building the right D, we just need the players to get use to those schemes and learn their jobs. Our D is made for the assignment football thats needed sometimes to shut down RPO, we did a decent job once we switched to that scheme, but early on we weren’t doing that, there was no spy there was no shallow LB. We will get there, we have the right players and the right D, we just didnt start the game calling it that way. Coach’s probably knew we might have to swap to it but you try to do it and maintin your game plan, and just switch to assigment once its start breaking down. Eventually we will be able to do the fluid style he wants to run, without the assignment but its baby steps at this point.

      • D says:

        Ill agree with you that McMillan wouldhave helped some, he would have helped the up the gut stuff when the RB’s were sliping through the center, but like i was saying, you need your DL to shut that down and while they did ok in some aspects, they really werent clogging the running lanes in the middle well, at least Wilkins wasnt. McMillan is a liability against RPO as far as stopping the guys once they bounce it outside, he wouldnt have helped with Cam at all. Baker is the type of guy you want going against a Cam Newton, he will get there and he did a great job considering he was doing most of all the sideline to sideline stuff on his own.

  109. Tim Knight says:

    I was just in a shitty mood yesterday with the way we played and then I lost the feed and couldn’t watch the entire game. No it wasn’t the worst game ever or anything and yes we have a lot of new players and young players with no PS. Hopefully we clean it up.

    • Mike E. says:

      I get it. Yesterday was a bad week of football. Both of my FF teams in pay leagues totally underperformed leading to 2 losses and our team didn’t play well either. Plus the Mets tease ya and make you think they’re ready to compete and then take 2 steps back. Very frustrating

  110. D says:

    Its a domino effect, so we are having trouible keeping the RB’s from slipping out, so Baker has to help there, which means he is out of position when he needs to track down Cam, starts with the DL not clogging the center, is fed off of missed assignments on the containment, so now ya lose the middle and the coverage there. This is why Belichick gets so bent over a player freelancing or not doing their assigned job stat hunting. Everyone has to do their job our it just unravels and your scheme is a bunch of individuals running around acting like clowns.

  111. wyoming85 says:

  112. sb7mvp says:

    I didn’t even realize the game was on yesterday. Good thing I missed it.

    • Mike E. says:

      Sure is 🙂

    • D says:

      I really didnt think it was that bad. Wierd me being the Mr positive of the group lol. Maybe not Mr positive, jjust seems that way because im not also one of the Mr sad pants.

      • D says:

        I need to find something i really hated about the game so i can feel better about how im feeling lol.

      • D says:

        I know i hated the fake crowd noise, it wasn’t as awkward as complete silence, but it was so obviously not real it was kinda creepy. There isnt anything to be mad at our team for that though. Hrmm. Nope i got nothing.

  113. Mike E. says:

    D – It wasn’t that bad, but to simplify it, I knew and said before the game that the only way Cam would beat us was on the ground and yet we still couldn’t stop him. We looked so tentative. Maybe it’s to hi credit or maybe just a bad job by us. They kept the ball for 10 more minutes than we did. That bothers me.

    • D says:

      Offense didnt keep the ball long enough, D, especially the first game gets gassed if they cant stay off the field a little. Im more unhappy about the O than i am the D but im not overly unhappy on either side right now. It was a decent start with a bad outcome.

  114. D says:

    He is my poopey pants things.

    Not enough Brieda, especially int he passign game after Devante went down, i would have liked to see the coaches start spreading them out with some reciever screens with Brieds either the reciever on the screen or a blocker out front. I would have liked to see a little more than basic play calling on offense.

    I would have liked to see a better second adjustment to the adjustment to our first adjustment lol. I would have liked to have seen a zero coverage “nickle” with 5 CB’s some playing mid deep and some playing shallow just behind the LB’s to cut out that zone and yet still be able to stack the box. We were not being threatened in the deep ball category so why not sacrifice a little there, let our all stars be man up, and take all the middle shit. Make him burn us, he gets more inconsistent the further he has to throw it.

    I would have like to see a little more jumbo early on, we got maybe one jumbo package down close to the goal line but we coulda used it early in the game in the middle of the field.

    Thats about all i can come up with, and thats not my call its just how i would have handled it, and im not the pro’s, they are,

  115. sb7mvp says:

    I find myself watching less and less football anyway. There’s better things to do with my time that are enjoyable and withing my control.

  116. Randy says:

    Ya know how you stop RPO? You smack the shit out of the QB every time he runs. Oh wait, the NFL has made it illegal to touch QBs. Gee, what a surprise RPO has become popular.

  117. ocalarob says:

    I hope the cops in L.A. that were shot by a coward recover!

  118. ocalarob says:

    It’s one game, this team is brand new and we were playing @ NE. tough road game.

  119. ocalarob says:

    I like the way they downplay these hurricanes, Laura was suppose to be a cat 1 and it was a cat 4. Sally was suppose to be a cat 1, it’s now a cat 2 and they keep saying it will make landfall now as a cat 2. i’d bet the farm it will be a cat 3 at landfall and be a major hurricane. they always get that wrong and what’s worse is they err in the wrong direction, if you’re going to make a mistake, make it on the stronger side not the weaker side.

  120. ocalarob says:

    another black man shot and killed by police in HLWD CALIF, oh yeah he was chasing an armed cop with a machete, maybe the cop should have tried reasoning with him……?????

  121. The Flying Pig says:

    What a throw by Daniel Jones

  122. Randy says:

    Technically they aren’t protected when they run past the LOS, but you see guys arm tackle and avoid hitting them almost every time. It’s in guys’ heads because they know they’ll get flagged, ejected and probably fined.

    • wyoming85 says:

      Take one for the team!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Wyoming plays Air force every year (except this one) So I know that’s what you have to do to the RPO!

      No hesitation, Just hit the QB in the mouth!!!!!

  123. manitobafinfan says:

    Dear Coach Tomlin : what part of I need 50 pts from James Connor did you not understand… he can’t score if he’s on the sidelines. YA DUMBASS

  124. Randy says:

    Things have changed, and I don’t like it! It’s not tackle football. Being able to hit really hard and solid is a tool that can be used. It’s like asking a really fast guy not to run as fast as he can. Why? If I can hit somebody legally so they don’t wanna do something again or takes their mind off the play and puts it on me, that impacts the game. I miss real football.
    Old man rant over! Lol

  125. son of a son of a shula says:

    I got this mountain bike for only eleven dollars

  126. son of a son of a shula says:

    Reid Sinnett replaces Jake Rudock on the practice squad. Reid is a QB from University of San Diego State

  127. D says:

    Let’s see how PC Tanny is after he gets beat by a lesbo.

  128. D says:

    Randy they also aren’t protected after the hand off the football, after the football have been caught by the receiver, or tuck the ball down and become a ball carrier. There are times you can still tee off on them, but you gotta do it just right and don’t make it look super bad like a blind side hit, just a good pancaking followed by some dry humping.

  129. olddolphan says:

    TODAY, September 15, is exactly the halfway point of The Height of the Hurricane Season. It runs from Aug. 1 through Oct. 31 —92 days, to be exact. The vast majority of major hurricanes are spawned during this three month period. Last year, the most intense hurricane ever recorded, Hurricane Dorian, with gusts of 225 MPH, struck the Bahamas. The date was Sept. 1. DORIAN was the 4th storm of the 2019 season. NOW, on Sept. 15, 2020, we are at 21 storms for this season and counting.

    I’m sure glad there’s no such thing as climate change. As Archie Bunker might have put it, “It (climate change) is a fragment of your imagination.”

    • D says:

      Not to detract from your argument, but another fact that helps us this year is the fact we have had so many storms. Usually the deep into the season you go without getting many storm, the worse they are that year when it does get to the latter parts of the season Camile, Katrina, Dorian, Michael those aren’t deep into the alpha system as Sally or whatever comes next. Im at least hopeful, that the latter part of this season is weaker at least, because the sheer number of them and any of them being big is going to really compound things.

    • steveccnv says:

      Why do people sarcastically say there’s no such thing as climate change, when nobody is arguing otherwise? We all know the temp is always changing.

      • D says:

        There is a natural climate change, the earth will change temperature in cycles, those those cycles are generally so long that you only live in wither a heating or cooling cycle and do not see both. There definitely is a relation to pollution, climate change and human existence, and there is a relation to the events that are happening in correlation with those two. The more people we cram on this planet the more its not in a natural state and the more unnatural state its in the worse it will become and the more the earth will fight back to restore balance.

        So really, i am a climate change believer, but i know that the only alternative to climate change at this point is to limit the number of human beings. You think a 100% switch to electric cars will do it, immediate impact sure, but these cars will break down, these cars will eventually go to junk yards and eventually those batteries are going to be a toxic mess to have to handle.

        We an trade one problem for another, and im not suggesting we do nothing, but ultimately, we cant stop this from progressing without the talk of population control, and i dont think anyone else really wants to have that discussion, outside of maybe AOC who wants to eat babies lol. Im tired of the talk of eat beans not meat because cow farts are doing it. What about the extra human farts from eating the beans? No cow farts aren’t doing it the human population is doing it.

        Everyone recycle, well recycling plants emit pollution, more people doing it more pollution. So trash in the water/soil or pollution in the air. Knock out 100K people and you have reduced both.

        Factory dump pollution in the water and the air, ok so who are we producing things for, less people less need for stuff, less pollution. No one is going to stop wanting these items, therefore they will still be produced, so only alternative is lower the number of consumers.

        This is the real conversation about climate control. Do what you can, but ultimately, you aren’t stopping this thing without getting rid of the real problem, and thats human beings not cow farts.

      • steveccnv says:

        That’s just an opinion, and not based on any facts. There’s nothing that proves anything we’ve done is changing the climate and no one knows what to do to reverse global warming, if it’s even possible or a good thing. Plants in general thrive in a warm climate, and need CO2.

        Let’s not make these talking points the discussion for the day.

  130. wyoming85 says:

  131. D says:

    steveccnv says:
    September 15, 2020 at 9:57 am

    That’s just an opinion, and not based on any facts. There’s nothing that proves anything we’ve done is changing the climate and no one knows what to do to reverse global warming, if it’s even possible or a good thing. Plants in general thrive in a warm climate, and need CO2.

    Let’s not make these talking points the discussion for the day.
    Im cool with that. Not a conversation i am passionate enough about to care to argue anyways lol.

  132. steveccnv says:

    VGK went out of the Western Conf Finals with a whimper, unlike how they went out last year. Holding a 2-1 lead late in the 3rd, they had a tripping penalty that Dallas converted into a 2-2 tie, then another penalty in OT was their demise.

    Playing the last 5 games of the last series in 7 days, then one day off after each game in this series proved to be too much, with an ailing Mark Stone and an exhausted group, they petered out in the 3rd period.

  133. stangerx says:

    Newton posted Sunday on Instagram a video of one of his touchdown runs with the caption, “Forever tried to snatch my chain and the game, too bad I got both.”

    Raekwon Davis responded — “Man ain’t nobody want your fake (expletive) chains (expletive) was weak anyway.”

  134. D says:

    Its weird, as far as the football team, id rather pull for Alabama over Auburn, but as far as the fans go, i cant really get on the side of the Alabama fans, they are really annoying. Auburn players though, there have been a lot of them like Cam.

  135. stangerx says:

    Guess say this at the risk of saying our performance wasn’t as good…. but Patriots didn’t look like a team that will run deep into the playoffs on Sunday. And if Cam keeps running that much is he even there for them?

  136. stangerx says:

    “Kindley played every offensive snap for the Dolphins, allowing just one quarterback pressure on 62 snaps (38 pass blocking).”

  137. steveccnv says:

    What team did Marino get his first action against?

    Just saying🤔

    Tua may do the same.

    • stangerx says:

      Given that only a matter of time, it’s possible. Must be tough to be Fitz knowing he might be only one bad game or even half from getting the hook. But glad he’s an older guy looking at either retirement or holding a clipboard anyhow.

  138. stangerx says:

    Dolphins cut Jake Rudock. Signed undrafted rookie quarterback Reid Sinnett from the Buccaneers practice squad. Wonder if he can sublease Rosen’s place.

  139. D says:

    stangerx says:
    September 15, 2020 at 12:05 pm

    Guess say this at the risk of saying our performance wasn’t as good…. but Patriots didn’t look like a team that will run deep into the playoffs on Sunday. And if Cam keeps running that much is he even there for them?
    Patriots looked like the better prepared team with a better strategy to hit us where it hurts. They knew we had a bunch of new guys, new coaches and new to the NFL’s, and they made a good game plan. As far as how scary the team looked, they dint look that scary. Our performance wasn’t as good, but given where we are, that wasn’t a bad performance overall. Baby steps.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The new OL with two rooks was encouraging. They looked solid as opposed to what we’ve been seeing the last few years.

      • stangerx says:

        Just based on one game, but Kindley and Jackson look like keepers. Could talk about Flowers or Karras….. but those are the guys who are gonna be with us for a good number of years.

  140. wyoming85 says:

  141. wyoming85 says:

  142. stangerx says:

    wyoming — is Sally threatening you?

  143. Tim Knight says:

    I was listening to Carl Banks on WFAN discussing the Giants and what he was saying about them is very parallel to what the Dolphins are going through. A lot of new players that need to get on the same page more and clean some things up. But a lot of that is correctable. I definitely overreacted to the Dolphins loss. I was just pissed off. LOL

    • Mike E. says:

      I thought the Giants looked pretty good. Engram had a bad game, but Blake Martinez was all over the place making plays. He looked great.

      • Mike E. says:

        Oh, and of course because I drafted Saquon Barkley he’s gonna suck the entire season. lol

        Amazing, I have Drew Brees, Michael Thomas and Saquon Barkley and they all scored way below their normal outputs. Bad FF week, but I eked out an ugly win in one league. An ugly win is better than an ugly loss

      • steveccnv says:

        I had Barkley and Brees last year. You’re going to be sorry. Somehow got Watson after Brees and played him the entire year. In a 4 – 6 league you need a running QB.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Their OL was better in pass pro but they couldn’t run the ball. Similar to us. But the Steelers are a top team with a big time defense if Big Ben stays healthy, and the Pats still have Belichick who out coached us.

        I kind of jumped the gun that we’re now in the next phase of rebuilding this team and this was the first game they played together. It’s going to take some time. I even said before the season started that we could go 0-2, 2-4 to start and then starting winning some games. I let my emotions get the best of me. We should get better as the season goes on.

  144. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, Brees doesn’t put up big numbers as much anymore. Their offense has become more balanced. The Saints are still a top team but it’s not just about Brees anymore. Not sure he’s a great FF QB anymore.

    • D says:

      I think it will be off an one from here out, he can still do it, he can still carry the team in the case they need it, they just dont need it as much like you mentioned. Its gonna be 40 pts one week maybe 20 another.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Right, but throwing the ball all over the lot is not what Brees has been in recent years. I’m talking about FF, not that Brees can’t lead them to a championship. There’s a difference between the two.

  145. stangerx says:

    D — sounds like you live in a place that realtors like to brag about in Houston — “this house stayed dry during Harvey.” 🙂

  146. Mike E. says:

    Tim – They still don’t really run that much. They use Kamara a lot in the passing game so those yards and TD’s count too. Brees isn’t chucking the ball deep much anymore but he still throws the ball to Thomas when he’s healthy and gets some big plays out of Kamara

    • Tim Knight says:

      Okay but don’t be surprised if his FF numbers are middle of the road. I’m not saying he’s no longer a great QB for the Saints and their season. They didn’t have the rushing yards in week 1 but they ran it 34 times. That’s all I’m saying.

  147. D says:

    Well i just lost internet briefly so it must be starting soon. Came back up pretty quick so probably some tree just whacked a pole somewhere.

  148. bailbondmike says:

    Stanger, I live a couple miles from the gulf coast and about 7 miles from the Florida/Alabama border in West Pensacola. Looks like the center of the storm is going toward Mobile bay and possibly land fall at gulf shores. That puts me right in the right quadrant of the storm. Still not to worried as it has weakened and probably continue to weaken as it nears shore. Not rally concerned about the wind. Only trees around my house are the live oaks (or spanish oaks). Those trees are like built out of iron and very rarely topple over even with saturated ground. Only concern is flooding. Much of West Pensacola is low lying area. I drove around and we have a little over 3ft of storm surge. If we get much more (5ft of surge) we will start to have problems with rain water drainage. I don’t think we will get there. I don’t have a rain gage but we have gotten a shit ton. I drained our pool down 2″ below the skimmer yesterday and now it’s above the top of the skimmer. Has to be close to 12″ of rain so far. I am really not worried though.

    • D says:

      The damn Spanish oaks have a lot of support i have seen their limbs bend and touch the ground like a bunch of spider arms lol.

    • D says:

      BBM is on what they consider the less preferred side of the storm where as im on the more preferred side i guess you could say. I’m far enough inland and up high, like i said, so if the tall pines dont fall on me im good. Most are on the north side of the house tso the wind coming from it would most likely push them down away from my house.

    • stangerx says:

      Sounds like a lot of rain BBM. Based on that have read seems biggest worry is the things just stops and sits there. Much better if Sally spreads the love if you will.

      • stangerx says:

        And should have said Wow to 12 inches of rain. When I was up north that would mean 12 feet of snow.

      • D says:

        Our area is the heaviest rainfall in all the US, we dont have the most number of rainy days, thats the NW but the volume of rain per year is us. Rain, especially in the summer is a lot of times an every day thing right about the same time every day.

      • D says:

        I liven in Pensacola before i moved to Mobile by way of Baton Rouge and Mobile and Pcola have about the same rainfall and weather patterns.

      • stangerx says:

        And assume that means both the ground and the drainage is prepared for a lot of rain. Comes in handy today.

  149. Tim Knight says:

    Oak trees and/or massive branches go down during Nor’easter’s in the northeast and crush shit. Glad that doesn’t happen by you guys.

    • D says:

      A lot of yards are like that, open in the south side of the yard more wooded in the north just because thats the hurricanes are goinbg to come from

      • Tim Knight says:

        Too many gigantic trees around neighborhoods up north. Yeah they’re beautiful and majestic and provide great shade, but they’re also very dangerous around homes, businesses and power lines during major storms. We get crazy rain and heavy winds up here too that aren’t during winter. Had two huge branches come down from the tropical storm from the hurricane you guys got a month ago or so, that almost hit us from the neighbor’s massive pine tree. They landed in their yard and missed both of us but it could have been much worse. They’re still contemplating whether they should take this 100 foot tree down.

  150. bailbondmike says:

    D, where I live we don’t get the rain Mobile does during the summer. Pensacola does get a ton but it seems to stay right along I-10 and doesn’t dip down to the coast as often. Of course, I-10 rolls right through Mobile so there ya go.

  151. D says:

    So you are pretty close to Florabama?

  152. bailbondmike says:

    Tim, we have another type oak tree down here that are real tall and similar to the kind you have up north. I just don’t have any of those near my house. I get my big spanish oak pruned about every 5 years to reduce wind resistance. Looks like a giant umbrella.

  153. son of a son of a shula says:

    Van Noy knows he’s on the Dolphins now, right?

    Tim, I know what you mean, frustrated at results not necessarily performance. The first Cam TD where they zoom in on his foot out of bounds and the totally egregious PI on Gesicki on the last int stick out to me. We get the proper call on both of those and it’s a different game.
    Sure they would have been within 6 inches and Cam probably puts it in but anything can happen- botched snap, fumble, loss of yds 2-3 downs in a row, penalty or even a pick (most unlikely) but who knows.
    Then without PI maybe Gesicki scores or else with PI we’re at the one all set up.
    It was a frustrating game. Wish we were better against the run, wish we ran it better, wish we threw it deep a couple times blah blah blah but we might be ok.
    Need this win at home to avoid 0-2 in the division.

    • bailbondmike says:

      Pirty much my feelings. Definitely need the win this weekend.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah man. I saw some good tackling from the defense but we also gave up to much space in both the run and pass game. Got tighten that up. The OL is going to need some time to gel but I saw some good signs from them. Then we need skill players on offense to make big plays and defenders to make more impact plays. That might happen as the season goes on. We’re still in the early stages of building this team. Last year we tore it down, and this year we’re trying to build it the way we want it. That doesn’t happen overnight, especially with this crazy offseason.

      Figures we get all this draft capital and cap space and we’re in the midst of a fucked up pandemic. I know it’s just sports but still… just saying.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I hear ya. At least it’s every team and not just us specifically ie; bullygate, forgot his name linebacker goes awol right before season opener, fucked over by hurricanes and so on.
        By the way, in retrospect Bullygate might be the gayest thing to ever happen in professional sports.

    • Mike E. says:

      LOL @ Van Noy. I thought he looked disinterested

  154. bailbondmike says:

    Jim Cantore has not drove over this way yet so I am not worried. LOL

  155. bailbondmike says:

    So you are pretty close to Florabama?
    Also, Orange Beach on Perdido Key is the one we go to most which is just down the road from there.

  156. Randy says:

    Pittsburgh better fix that OL if they wanna do anything this season. Big Ben is gonna get pummeled, and he’s old and fragile. The Saints have a serious chance to win it all. If their defense can play solid, I like their chances a lot.

    • D says:

      They always have a good shot as long as the D holds an opponent to 30 or less, That offense has been putting up 30-40 a game for years now.

  157. son of a son of a shula says:

    The 3 and out after the first 3rd qtr TD was bad too. We needed to let the D rest and go and get some points. Baker saved our ass at least.

  158. Tim Knight says:

    Defensive tackle Christian Wilkins filled up the stat sheet in his second career opening day. He had six tackles (four solo), two tackles for loss, a sack and batted down two passes at the line of scrimmage.

    “I’ve just been working hard all year – all offseason, all training camp and everything to try to be in the best shape and be in the best position to help this team win,” Wilkins said. “But ultimately, I don’t care about the big plays if it doesn’t result in wins. It’s cool to make big plays but I’d rather win at the end of the day. It’s all good and fun; but I’d trade in stats and plays for a win in the win column.”

    • D says:

      well yeah and though his stats were ok, there were a couple big runs that went right through his gap. Not saying he didnt play well but he could definitely improve his gap maintenance.

      • D says:

        I would really like us to get a big space eater next year int he draft and one of the best is Slaton from UF. He’s solid in pass rush but he is a huge dude that moves very well for his size. I think he is like 6-5 350 ish.

      • D says:

        Kong can bitch that someone put a building in front of Kindley and he cant see him anymore.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I think a lot of it was more scheme and not on the same page. Maybe we tried to do too much early on instead of keeping it more simple on defense. But I like Wilkins’ attitude. He’s not a me guy.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I bold predicted him to the pro bowl a week or two ago, just for the record.

  159. son of a son of a shula says:

    Our DE’s we’re not inspiring in the least. If they don’t improve we’re screwed

    • Tim Knight says:

      No doubt, but they’re also part of the get more on the same page and clean it up narrative as well. Similar to last year except we have more talent this year. Just don’t go 0-7 for it to start looking better.

    • Mike E. says:

      I feel like Lawson and Ogbah were non existent.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I saw them get some pressure off the edge but Cam got rid of it early and only passed 19 times. We did not deal with the RPO well at all though. That pissed me off. LOL

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Or anyone on the edge. Was Van Winkle sleeping again? Did he play? Landon Roberts, Captain, was he even there?
        When we played NE previously it was like the only names you heard for the whole telecast were Roberts and Van Noy on and on. Did they Captain from HQ in Davie?

  160. Tim Knight says:

    D, the guy you’re looking for as a big space eater sounds like Raekwon Davis. Give hime some time and he might be that guy.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      He doesn’t take shit on Twitter we know that, lol

      Yeah he’s here to be exactly that, if can’t do it we should by the next draft. Long way to go. I like Davis’ chances.

  161. Mike E. says:

    Tim – That was the most frustrating thing, our ineptitude with the RPO on defense. It’s like we had no idea how to handle the concept. We also never seemed to have more than one guy there to defend it which is trouble.

  162. son of a son of a shula says:

    “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth”

  163. wyoming85 says:

    Nope I’m Golden this time around!
    Good luck to BBM and D!

    Watching your generator run while no AC is not very fun!

  164. wyoming85 says:

  165. The Flying Pig says:

    I am a little bothered that a lot of other teams looked better in week 1 than we did

    The patriots didn’t really do anything exotic on offense

    But that said, we kind of go into the game not knowing what to expect

    Should we have game planned to stop the offense the patriots showed up with? Based on what? I don’t even think the patriots know what they are going to do on offense yet? It’s all brand new in week 1 with a new QB after parting ways with this HOF QB.

    We actually have the tape of what the bills did to the jests. I think you can prepare for that

    So, if the trend continues I’m going to judge more harshly

    But I’ve been dismissing week 1 performances for years now. Weird things happen in week 1

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      If we were a 4-3 with bigger ends they wouldn’t have been running that shit and the shit they were running only worked because it was Cam. I know y’all hate him but he’s a big fast talented individual. We needed Dick Butkus. Lol

      • The Flying Pig says:

        It was just a very remedial offense

        I just don’t think it was about game preparation.
        I think we got beat up up front

        And some of those things are just about everyone knowing their roles

        And no one knows what the fuck they are doing yet
        No one knew what the patriots would run
        And no one knows their roles on defense yet

  166. wyoming85 says:

  167. son of a son of a shula says:

    They’ll have Cam in the pocket in the next game, that’s what we figured on it looks like. Strowbridge might find himself available next week 🤷‍♂️

  168. The Flying Pig says:

    I also think, if we would generated a little offense to out some pressure on them and force the, to throw – that would have helped

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Right. I thought we’d be able to run on them but we couldn’t. Despite everything they say about multiple when we have a fullback and 3 Te’s we’re running it. Then we go empty backfield and wonder how they know our playbook. Eh, if you’re gonna run then that’s a mindset it’s a lot more than scheme. Kindley is definitely a block in the blocking lol

  169. Randy says:

    I think if we had played better, we may have won.

  170. son of a son of a shula says:

    We can get better too Randy that’s the thing to hold on too.
    Plus ahem, we have Tua
    We can’t let teams run on us. And we gotta run on them. Easy game.

  171. Randy says:

    I had no expectations for this team this year. I just want to see improvement through the year. This team is still rebuilding and learning how to play the sort of defense Flores wants to run. It isn’t going to happen overnight. If we can get to .500 this season, I think that will be a success. There’s a lot of learning to do…with lots of new pieces.

  172. The Flying Pig says:

    Maybe a better way to say it is that the game was incredibly boring

    Was it just me? I just thought it was a horrible game to watch even it I wasn’t rooting for the Dolphins

    It was super sluggish

    It felt a little like a scrimmage

  173. Tim Knight says:

    This team will be much better when we starting running the ball better. It allows an attack and opportunistic defense to flourish. The offense laid an egg. The defense was meh. Better get better this week.

  174. The Flying Pig says:

    Heat win!

  175. The Flying Pig says:

  176. wyoming85 says:

    D & BBM How you all doing????????

    • D says:

      Im fine, haven’t really gotten out and checked much but i have power and am working this morning, so fairly normal. Im more concerned with BBM he probably got it worse. I know that a few of my employees who live in Mobile (im just outside of it) they dont have power, though they didnt report any damage to their houses.

  177. wyoming85 says:

    Brian Flores Wednesday 9/16 media availability thread
    7:47 AM · Sep 16, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
    Tweet your reply
    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Flores: “We’ve made the corrections from Sunday’s game, there were a lot of issues in the game, we’ve moved on to Buffalo. There’s a lot to focus on there, they’re a good team.”
    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Flores says Buffalo’s receiver’s are as good as any in the league. That, paired with a tough quarterback who can scramble, makes this offense a big challenge.
    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Flores on Brandon Jones’ debut:

    Tackled well, showed good speed, lot of things he showed in training camp… he’s aggressive, it wasn’t perfect but I thought he played well.
    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Flores says Lynn Bowden isn’t quite there yet but when he is they’d like to get him comfortable in a couple of packages
    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Perry has spent more time inside and Needham on the perimeter through the course of camp and into the season, Flores says about the CB depth.

    • steveccnv says:

      The talk about Bowden, Jones, Perry and Needham is fine, but I don’t want to hear about the corrections. He was probably asked by some bearded coconut, and I get that, but we’ll judge if the corrections got fixed on Sunday.

  178. wyoming85 says:

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I hope they don’t regret it

      But I’m going to enjoy watching football whether it’s back for good or just for the moment

  179. The Flying Pig says:

    They are really going to pour it on Gase this season – you can see it coming

    • steveccnv says:

      If he didn’t stick both feet in his mouth and wasn’t such an arrogant and insecure SOB…

      • The Flying Pig says:

        He’s earned it

        Be seen some underwhelming coaches over the late decade or more in Miami, but I genuinely didn’t like Gase and felt like he was a finger pointer

      • steveccnv says:

        He’s a complete jackass. Reminds me of someone who went from mommy to the military, so was told what to do his whole life, then when he gets to be the boss he’s clueless.

      • steveccnv says:

        On the other hand Flores seems completely comfortable in his own skin.

  180. stangerx says:

    Jones, vowed in 2018 that Cowboys players would always stand for the anthem with a “toe on the line.” Sunday Night Dallas defensive tackle Dontari Poe took a knee during the national anthem.

    Jones did not endorse nor condemn Poe’s decision.

    • steveccnv says:

      Jones knows he”ll face mutiny, if he says too much.

      TV ratings down 30%.

      I hope the salary cap drops down to about 100M, so these MFers feel it in their wallet and these teams that just signed these massive contracts, after knowing the cap was going down, struggle to field a team.

      • stangerx says:

        Hope the cap goes down as well. Ours is low with all the young guys and Ross always does the carryover. And all the players will still be making a bunch of cash anyhow. Those guys make a lot. Not like anyone will retire to be a hedge fund CEO.

  181. wyoming85 says:

  182. bookman11 says:

    So glad the Big 10 is deciding to give it a shot. By the time they start, most leagues will have had at least a month into their season so they will have an idea what is working and what is not in other conferences and areas.

    You can’t fail (or succeed) if you don’t at least try

  183. Rockphin says:

    I am of two schools of thought on Parker practicing today without limitations.
    1. Great! if he is healthy and can stay that way. We need him.
    2. DAMNIT! Hamstrings and the soft tissue injuries he always seems to be plagued with only heal with rest. Don’t aggravate it by trying to “push through it”

    I hope there are 15 weeks ahead of us without him on the injury report.

    • stangerx says:

      Hammies are tough. Might work out better for Parker, but drop all but elite guys from my FF team once they injure them. Still there even if they are playing.

  184. Rockphin says:

    stangerx says:
    September 16, 2020 at 2:16 pm
    LOL — always have loved kittens. Only problem is they grow up to be cats.

    I have always loved babies. Only problem is they grow up to be kids…and then, even worse, adults! LOL

  185. wyoming85 says:


  186. stangerx says:

    “He’s been here two weeks, three weeks, somewhere in there. He’s worked extremely hard. He’s been meeting one-on-one with Grizz (wide receivers coach Josh Grizzard) trying to get caught up. But it’s a rookie, you’re young, you need reps, so we’re trying to get him as many reps in practice as possible, but as far as getting caught up, there’s going to be at best for a young guy in that situation a couple of packages, a couple of things that we’ll make him feel comfortable doing and maybe get him out there. But I’m not sure we’re ready there yet. So we’ll see.”

    — Flores saying don’t look for Bowden anytime soon…. and heck the Raiders were trying to make him a RB.

  187. Tim Knight says:

    LOL @ Son on “By the way, in retrospect Bullygate might be the gayest thing to ever happen in professional sports.”

  188. stangerx says:

    “Two weeks ago, we had everybody on our offensive line except two or three guys were out. We adjusted very well. You got to make adjustments. Not all of our players, but most of our players have caught it, so hopefully they don’t catch it again. And hopefully they’re not out for games.”
    — LSU head coach Ed Orgeron

  189. stangerx says:

    D — you riding the storm out OK?

  190. steveccnv says:

    What a schmuck, Big Ben says yesterday I felt like I was in a trainwreck, today a car wreck. He’s just put a target on his own back.

  191. Rockphin says:

    Not Dolphins related, but I am disappointed in the casting for Amazon’s adaptation of Wheel of Time.

    Not what Robert Jordan described for the Emonds field folk and Rosemary Pike is way too tall to play Moiraine.

  192. D says:

    stangerx says:
    September 16, 2020 at 4:28 pm

    D — you riding the storm out OK?
    Yeah im good. Havent heard from BBM yet though. Lots in Mobile and PCola without power.

    • stangerx says:

      Glad to hear. She wasn’t named yet, but Sally skirted past us. You feel lucky when that happens but also means hits somewhere else. The one that took Ken’s power out all those days….. same thing.

  193. The Flying Pig says:


    I don’t k ow about the show or book

    But I do know rosemary (I think her name might be Rosamund) pike is a heck of an actress

  194. Rockphin says:

    Yeah, her name is Rosamund. My phone incorrectly corrected my misspelled Rosamund. I like her as an actress too but I the character is a tiny woman.

    I guess it doesn’t really matter to the story line, but the characters in question all come from very well defined backgrounds. The little village they are from is in an isolated part of the world where noone leaves or moves to. (for the past 1000 years and more) There is no “diversity” in the Two Rivers.

    I think Peter Jackson did a fabulous job bringing the Lord of the Rings to life, the imagery in the films was spot on with what I imagined when reading. I guess I was hoping my favorite book series would have stayed truer to the books now that they have FINALLY done it for the screen.

  195. Randy says:

    I had the same thoughts on many points. When I first saw the cast for WoT I couldn’t really picture any of them as their characters. And you’re right, Jackson’s people did a great job of casting for the LotR movies. I thought the GoT cast was pretty good too given all the different characters. This cast just doesn’t, but I am hoping the acting will be good enough that I’ll believe they are those characters. I’m just glad they’re gonna try. Sorta like with the Shannara series, but I’ll still watch them all. The books are always way better anyway.

  196. wyoming85 says:

    No BBM yet huh????????

    I hope he’s got waders!

  197. wyoming85 says:

    • steveccnv says:

      Most of us saw the game, the run D was horrible, but fixable. The offense was blah, but the OL seems much improved as is the overall talent. We stunk it up for 3 qtrs, but there we were down 3 in the 4th.

      I still have hope for this season, but they have to do whatever it takes to get a win against Buffalo.

      Nothing coming from the team or media, between games 1 and 2, means anything, except the injury report. Just gitter done.

  198. wyoming85 says:

    Brian Flores Thursday 9/17 media availability thread

    “I wouldn’t take one game and try to put guys in a bucket as far as snap counts, especially in this type of season.”
    7:45 AM · Sep 17, 2020·Twitter Web App
    Tweet your reply
    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Flores talks about the importance of relationship building, especially among the safeties for communication purposes. Says Rowe and McCain have done well in that area because it’s important to them.
    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Flores says Tagovailoa is doing what everyone else is doing from a strength training standpoint so they felt like they could remove him from the injury report.

    “It was a serious injury. He’s done a great job getting himself back and healthy.”
    Travis Wingfield
    Level 2:
    Flores on rookies and knowing when you can give them a full load

    Small role and then it builds. You see that over the course of 5-6 games. You need stretches of games of consistency to really feel good that they know how to be a professional and that complacency doesn’t set it.

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