The Bye Week Bi-Babe

It’s that time of year (four weeks earlier than originally planned) to announce this years winner of the coveted Bye Week Bi-Babe selection. As usual the voting was very close. As you know candidates are judged by an assortment of available quotes, sexy pics and who has a chance at you guys liking, it isn’t easy. So here she is…

This years winner –

Aubrey Plaza

Congratulations, Ms Plaza. She looks completely thrilled, doesn’t she?

“I know I have an androgynous thing going on, and there’s something masculine about my energy,” Plaza said in an interview with the Advocate. “Girls are into me – that’s no secret. Hey, I’m into them too. I fall in love with girls and guys. I can’t help it.”

We’re honored to have Ms Plaza recognized as this year’s Bi-Babe as the Miami Dolphins move to a new beginning of sorts with this upcoming game featuring Tua Tagovailoa.

It’s Tua Time!

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1,018 Responses to The Bye Week Bi-Babe

  1. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Krishna, you’re a fuck’n pussy,

  2. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    ORob,
    Pussy? Me? Huh. All these years and I never knew. Thanks for clearing that up for me!

  3. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    AGH, how could you be this dumb? You’re on the practice squad, not a starter.

    https://larrybrownsports.com/football/josh-hawkins-released-panthers-restaurant-mask/566569

  4. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I know it doesn’t mean anything, but I still enjoy this stuff. This site has us ranked 12th, which is easily the highest I’ve seen for us. That is freakin’ awesome.

    If we beat the Rams this weekend with Tua at the helm, we’re going to be the talk of the league. Man it would be nice if this team keeps meeting the expectations we fans are starting to feel. We’ve been disappointed so many times in the last two decades. Let’s get this thing started.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-power-rankings-entering-week-8/ss-BB1ao38D?li=BB15ms5q#image=22

  5. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    4 YDS! LOL!

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      With the cheats at 2-4 its bitter sweet, when they lose a player. We need them to beat Buffalo once, if we’re going to have much of a chance to win the division, but I won’t count them out until they are out, strange things happen in NE.

  6. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Randy, you told me the other day that you wanted to bury trump in the impeachment trials and your party had no evidence at all other than a phone call that was proven there was nothing wrong with it, you wanted to crucify Trump for that.

    the DOJ has overwhelming evidence that Joe Biden sold us out to China, Ukraine and Russia and in your own words you said it was “quite possible”

    so let me get this straight, Trump has a phone call with Ukraine and you want to hang the man.

    We have great evidence, Hunters hard drive and a whistle blower that Biden sold us out to China, Russia and Ukraine, and you say it’s quite possible yet there’s really nothing wrong with it! no big deal?

    how hypocritical of you?

    If Trump did what they accused him of which he didn’t, it would pale in comparison to what Biden has been accused of.

    If Biden took money from china you can bet he had to give them something, the question is what did he give them? and if he is president will he still be on Chinas payroll.

    if Biden did what they say he did he should be shot for treason!

  7. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Republican House Rep. Jim Jordan claimed his staff has independently authenticated materials from a laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden
    Jordan also slammed Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden for failing to speak out on whether the emails, photos, and other contents were genuine
    Tony Bobulinski, a former business partner of Hunter who was listed as the recipient of an email published by the New York Post also said they were real
    ‘Why won’t Joe Biden say they are not real, if they are not accurate, if these aren’t accurate emails, why won’t the Bidens say so?’ Jordan asked
    The emails are under FBI investigation but have not been officially verified

  8. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Howie’s List

    🇨🇦24-20 🐬
    🐷 20-14 🐬
    🦍 22-19 🐬
    🐟 35-14 🐬

  9. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Howie’s List

    🇨🇦24-20 🐬
    🐷 20-14 🐬
    🦍 22-19 🐬
    🐟 35-14 🐬
    🐎 21-20 🐬

  10. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Howie’s List

    🇨🇦24-20 🐬
    🐷 20-14 🐬
    🦍 22-19 🐬
    🐟 35-14 🐬
    🤠 21-20 🐬

    I like that one better!

  11. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Howie’s List

    🇨🇦24-20 🐬
    🐷 20-14 🐬
    🦍 22-19 🐬
    🐟 35-14 🐬
    🤠 21-20 🐬
    🐃🐃 27-24🐬

  12. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Howie’s List

    🇨🇦24-20 🐬
    🐷 20-14 🐬
    🦍 22-19 🐬
    🐟 35-14 🐬
    🤠 21-20 🐬
    🎲 27-21 🐬

  13. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  14. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Howie’s List

    🇨🇦24-20 🐬
    🐷 20-14 🐬
    🦍 22-19 🐬
    🐟 35-14 🐬
    🤠 21-20 🐬
    🐃🐃 27-24🐬
    🎲 27-21 🐬

  15. D's avatar D says:

    D says:
    October 27, 2020 at 10:05 am

    If you cant establish normal, you cant establish crazy so etiehr everyone is a variation of crazy, or they are a variation of normal.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      So we just are what we are?

      The new normal is whatever the accepted behavior is, in other words whatever they tell us it should be. Anyone have a problem with them telling us what normal is?

      • D's avatar D says:

        steveccnv says:
        October 27, 2020 at 10:16 am

        So we just are what we are?

        The new normal is whatever the accepted behavior is, in other words whatever they tell us it should be. Anyone have a problem with them telling us what normal is?
        —————————————————————————————–
        I especially have a problem with them telling us what normal is because that is very hypocritical.

  16. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    ????????????????

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      No thanks, we’ve been down this road before. We need to draft someone, not pay 15M for him.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      Are you kidding? I would do it in a heart beat! He would be on a bargain and not cost that much.

      “When a team trades for a player, it becomes responsible for paying the player’s remaining salary and remaining bonuses if there are any. The player’s signing bonus proration remains with his old team.”

      His base salary is 2020 $675,000, 2021 $850,000, and 2022 $965,000.
      His roster bonus 2020 $1,388,608, 2021 $2,777,216, and 2022 $4,165,823.

      If I understand correctly, the above is all we would have to pay him and the Jets would be on the hook for the signing bonuses of 2020 $5,419,431, 2021 $5,419,431, and 2022 $5,419,431.

      If this is correct, what do you give for him? The Houston pick in round 2 or our pick in round 1. I would not give up the Houston pick in the 1st round.

  17. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    who the hell is George?

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      He’s the biggest idiot on the planet, well 2nd, next to the Hawaii Senator Mazie Hirono.

      He keeps pushing all this BS narrative, including on covid how he’s going to snap his fingers and cure it. I’d make people wear masks he says, well in Italy where they’re locked down and wearing a mask is mandatory they’re getting a spike. The only cure is a vaccine, and the only way to slow it is control the deaths, which we are and masks in tight quarters, which we also are doing. FN lying dems, pushing their BS.

  18. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I woke up expecting to read some juicy stuff, but all I got is Steve calling Wyo his cowgirl. How disappointing… 😉

  19. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    i am starting to feel bad for Biden, he has severe dementia and it just seems he’s being used
    , when he said George you could see his wife whispering Trump to him.
    very pathetic.
    if that was my family member with that sort of problem i would not want him exposed to all this crap.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      His wife doesn’t give a crap, nor should she with all the touchy feely he’s done over the years, it’s her revenge. She just wants to be 1st lady.

      All the top dems are using poor little old dementia laden corrupt joe.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      You ever been around someone with severe dementia? My Mom had it. For all I know he could be in early stage dementia like Reagan was in his last few years, but if Joe has it not severe at all.

  20. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I think Tim mentioned it, but I haven’t seen much on the board about it. That play by Metcalf the other night was unbelievable. One of the greatest hustle plays I’ve ever seen.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I saw it this morning, and it’s a great play by Metcalf. My problem is with the rest of the slackers going thru the motions.

      How can these overpaid guys put out such little effort? They don’t care enough about winning.

      I had a similar play in 8th grade, coming from the DL. At halftime the coach chewed out the rest of the D.

      Playing basketball I was always the one getting back on fast break D, mostly by myself. I ran my ass off sometimes, because I hated to lose.

  21. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    The Jets keep drafting 1st RD DL and trading them. What’s the formula there?

  22. D's avatar D says:

    D says:
    October 27, 2020 at 11:55 am

    steveccnv says:
    October 27, 2020 at 10:16 am

    So we just are what we are?

    The new normal is whatever the accepted behavior is, in other words whatever they tell us it should be. Anyone have a problem with them telling us what normal is?
    —————————————————————————————–
    I especially have a problem with them telling us what normal is because that is very hypocritical.

  23. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Election day is one week from today and 66 million votes have already been cast. That’s half the total vote count for 2016. People are real interested in this one. The under 30 turnout has been huge, which is real unusual.

  24. D's avatar D says:

    CavalierKong says:
    October 27, 2020 at 11:36 am

    I think Tim mentioned it, but I haven’t seen much on the board about it. That play by Metcalf the other night was unbelievable. One of the greatest hustle plays I’ve ever seen.
    —————————————————————
    It was and maybe im jaded because i played the game, but any play i was on the field i played it out 100%. If it meant my 4.98 40 slow ass was going to trail the guy by 10 yards when he crossed the line, i didn’t let off until he did. The play wasnt over. In this NFL you see a lot of guys give up on plays when its away fromt hem, or give up on plays when they have no rpole in the design, but thats just bullshit. To me what Metcalf did was play football. I dont think its remarkable personally, in the sense that is how you play in my opinion, its only remarkable in the world of soft ass players who dont wanna play the game like that.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      It’s remarkable because only a couple guys in the league MIGHT have been able to make that play. For him to recognize and react as fast as he did, coupled with the speed to run the guy down, and the endurance to keep that speed up for 115 yards. One of the greatest plays of the year, easy.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        There were several others much closer, they just didn’t give a shit. I see the same thing in the WS with guys not running it out to 1st base, like in BB you need to conserve energy.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Here 🍺

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Watching film on OV, after we drafted him, I saw this same type of hustle and the angles he took, so I was excited we drafted him.

  25. D's avatar D says:

    Well yes, athletically he is a pure specimen, and that was known when they came to the draft and yet someone still was able to talk him down to a much lower pick than i expected. I really wanted him for us, if you remember. Its true, not many could pull it off, but i stand by the fact that a lot could and just dont put for the effort to go full out. There are a few players, like Watt (and mostly why i mentioned possibly getting him if the Texans fire sale) who embody that effort. Watt would have been chasing all the way as well and had he had the athletic ability that Metcalf has, he would have caught him too, its the mentality to push on that play that makes that possible, the athletics is just the mechanism that allowed him to get there before he crossed the goal line.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      ^
      Also, if you watched the interceptor, he was shocked Metcalf caught him. He wasn’t exactly running full speed. Another slacker on the play.

      Don Beebe in the SB also comes to mind, I think it was Leon Lett that ran it to the goal line, before Don knocked it out. Not exactly full effort by Leon.

  26. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Say what you want about Pete Rose aka Charlie Hustle, I do (talked to him a couple of times), but…

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      What did you think of Charlie Hustle? Went to one of his eating places (the first one) when was a young kid. My Uncle bought me a signed Pete Rose ball in the gift shop for $5. $5……. wish my dog hadn’t eaten it.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        The ball player, my dad always pointed out his hustle, I’m sure it had some affect on me, but not liking the Reds I always respected him and his play.

        The person, I thought he was an asshole. I’ve mentioned this before on here, but…I was dealing cards in Tahoe, and was relief one night (20 minutes per 3 tables). I pushed into the table he was playing at by himself, thinking how great it was going to be to deal to him, then broken record sound, he says, I don’tthink so and left, like I was a shark and they moved me there to take his money. They do do stuff like that, but not this time.

        The other 2 times was at Ceasar’s Palace at the forum shops, he was signing autographs, but no one wanted to pay. He was talking to the shop owner, he was pissed no one cared about him enough to get one. He was wearing all white one time, like he was IT. I so wanted to walk up to him like I wanted an autograph, then say oh its Pete Rose, I don’t think so.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Sorta of ironic that you met Rose when he was gambling, or maybe just expected. We all know how he got banned from baseball.

        And I’m guessing he was pissed no one wanted to pay the price for his signature cause he had signed a whole lot. No matter who you are that makes the price go down, especially since the internet has come in. A whole lot of your stuff on the net and your price goes down. Supply and demand.

        Cool that you were a dealer. Sat at many a table.

  27. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    My response on Quinnen Williams got lost in the politics. LOL Here it is again:

    Are you kidding? I would do it in a heart beat! He would be on a bargain and not cost that much.

    “When a team trades for a player, it becomes responsible for paying the player’s remaining salary and remaining bonuses if there are any. The player’s signing bonus proration remains with his old team.”

    His base salary is 2020 $675,000, 2021 $850,000, and 2022 $965,000.
    His roster bonus 2020 $1,388,608, 2021 $2,777,216, and 2022 $4,165,823.

    If I understand correctly, the above is all we would have to pay him and the Jets would be on the hook for the signing bonuses of 2020 $5,419,431, 2021 $5,419,431, and 2022 $5,419,431.

    If this is correct, what do you give for him? The Houston pick in round 2 or our pick in round 1. I would not give up the Houston pick in the 1st round.

    Only bad thing about the contract is I think it might be fully guaranteed (not sure).

    What you think?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Contract would not be a problem at all. What the Jets want or other teams offer might be. Worth kicking the tires at least.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      We’d have to take over the contract, so any unpaid signing bonuses we’d pay unless something was worked into the trade. Rookie contracts are guaranteed, but not a problem.

  28. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Metcalf more than made up for his Leon Lett earlier in the season. Still haven’t seen the play yet though.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Mike, forget all the players, coaches, and basically everyone who thinks this is an amazing play, Steve and D aren’t impressed. I’m betting Omar isn’t either, lol.

      It was even more impressive to watch it live in the tension of the game itself..

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I thought it was a good hustle play, but I’m not going all goo goo over someone doing their job. Anyone remember the training camp wall last year it takes no talent…

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Steve, that is the point I’m trying to get through your noggin. It wasn’t just a hustle play. It was a hustle play that took tremendous talent to achieve a result. 99.9% of guys who hustle and give it there all on that play are just running it out, but would never catch Baker.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I don’t see speed as talent. A great play would be OBJ making a 2 finger catch over a CB. A play that he can make maybe 1 out of 5 times.

        Speed on the other hand would be like saying Usain Bolt stumbled at the start, but still won the 100M, something that would happen 5 out of 5 times.

        Just my opinion.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        You don’t see speed as a talent? It’s quite literally the definition of a talent. But I think I get what you are trying to say, so I’ll let it go. We’ve spent way more time on this than I expected. I was just extolling a good play, I didn’t realize I’d have to argue or defend the scale of the play itself, lol. We can just disagree.

        Cheers 🙂

  29. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Tremendously athletic play, 22.6 MPH, 115 yds total, behind the play 25 yds at the start, saves 7 points, and all you can do is diminish it from your couches. LOL, you guys are unreal, but carry on. 🙂

    • D's avatar D says:

      Im not diminishing it lol, i just expect that kind of hustle, and TBH thats the most impressive part of it to me was that he did go full out from being 25 years back, im not arguing the play, just the impressive part, and the rest is just commentary on the lack of that in the NFL these days.

      • D's avatar D says:

        I couldn’t even have done it “in my younger days” as the old folks like to say lol, so im definately not poo pooing on the ability and impressive fact that he did catch him.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Lol at 25 yards behind the play.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        The numbers say he ran 109 yds to make the tackle, not 115, and Baker ran a straight line and ran 90, so he was actually only 19 yds behind the play.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I saw 7 plus over about 5 yards, but they will always sensationalize.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        It’s charted, just like the speed. They aren’t guessing, lol. The angle he took, he covered 108.76 yds.

  30. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    There’s crazy…..and then there’s this kind of crazy.

  31. D's avatar D says:

    Im not sure Gase really has a position where he excels, a lot of that reputation is damaged. Jospeh at least could still hang his hat on the idea that he came from being a DC and his defenses didnt suck (although with that talent, how could they). Gase on the other hand has had pitiful excuses for offenses, how does anyone want him running their offense either?

    • D's avatar D says:

      Stanger might be right, move down to college and build yourself back up, he at least can command the respect he wants from them since he can bench their asses and actually cost them millions in potential NFL revenues if they dont comply. Thats why the control freaks should stay in college.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        In the NFL you deal with men who — at least the key ones — know they can get another job at the drop of a hat…. or at least on next contract. College is different. NCAA rules make it that way, and lets the coach be a dictator if he wants.

  32. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Steve, the signing bonus is already paid by the Jets at the time of signing. It is just spread out over the contract. Therefore the Jets have to pay that, not us. We would have to just pay the base salary and roster bonus part of the contract. He would only cost 3.5(ish) mil in 2021 and 5.1(ish) mil in 2022.

  33. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    The best 2020 commercials!

  34. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Has anyone here watched Joker, the Joaquin Phoenix movie? I’ve heard mixed stuff and can’t decide whether to give it a try or not.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      For starters…. it’s not your superhero movie. Dark, somewhat slow, a bit disturbing and pretty well done. Was glad I watched even left me less than fulfilled. One of those won’t watch again though. All of which probably doesn’t help you decide. 🙂

    • D's avatar D says:

      Awesome movie, it wont be like you think, its a much deeper dive than that, you will like it i almost certainly feel like it.

      • D's avatar D says:

        I agree with Stanger, i wont watch it again, or if i do ill have to be really in the mood for it, but my reasons are different. I wont watch Requiem for a Dream because its just emotionally exhausting and id say the same here. I got to cut my self short on the description of why because ill ruin it for you, but i see it as a must watch.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        I think you and Stang gave me enough. I feel precisely the same way as you about Requiem for a Dream, so that is a real good marker. Cheers

    • D's avatar D says:

      Its not a feel good movie, its cinematic-ally masterful though. Those are my type movies, i mean if i can get the feel good to go with it, great but id rather leave the moving thinking damn i cant handle watching that again over i think im shitting rainbows and unicorns after wathing.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Walked away with awesome respect for the filmmakers…… after that probably popped in the Highlander DVD for the 20th time. 🙂

      • D's avatar D says:

        Forrest Gump is kinda my go to but i just bail out before Jenny dies and little Forrest is left without a momma.

      • D's avatar D says:

        I am a HUGE Highlander fan though, infact most my gaming characters from way back use to always have one that contained Highlander in the name unless it was one of the banned names.

  35. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I Amy Coney Barrett solemnly swear to support and defend the constitution of the US…

    Why are dem justices allowed to not follow this oath?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      They all swear by that oath

      • D's avatar D says:

        there was a little trickery in his post lol, unfortunately you fell for it…. he said follow not make the oath.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        So why don’t they abide by it?

      • D's avatar D says:

        and there is the setting of the hook lol

      • D's avatar D says:

        well played sir…..

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        It wasn’t meant to be a trick question. Why does it matter how many dems/reps there are on the court? When they take the oath to abide by the constitution, shouldn’t they all mostly decide cases the same way?

      • D's avatar D says:

        Thats been my point from the beginning, they are jockeying because for some reason the branch that plays politic the most have a hard on for the appointment, but if they did their job, as they should, with no party bias, then its shouldn’t matter at all.

      • D's avatar D says:

        The amount of work they are doing to stop it, really lets you know how that shit works, and i think its completely anti the intention so that branch as the founding father saw it.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      steve — even originalists like Scalia did not go strictly by the constitution. That is simply impossible. Question is how much you read into it given the thing was written 250 years ago. The Barrets of the world want less…. but they are still doing it as well.

      • D's avatar D says:

        I have to agree with him though, there have been a few things that it really was forcing a odd ruling to support something that seems like it was a political move. You are right too in that its almost unavoidable, on either side, but the point is the left is pushing to delay this right now and its not to get a more appropriate person for the nomination, its to hopeful get to make the nomination after they can get power and push their own cronie. I mean same deal can be said about why the senate is trying to push Barrett through, but i mean, the appointment happened on Trumps shift, its fair that he gets to make the ruling and to want it done otherwise screams of manipulation of a branch those guys shouldn’t at all be involved with its beign “their” person. Im not sweating who is appointed, im more disgusted by the political bullshit thats going on to make sure its one side or the others that gets the appointment.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I don’t care about going strictly by the Constitution, because as you say its impossible, just on general terms, but shouldn’t there be more decision where the majority of both parties are on the same side?

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        steve — the most common decisions in the Supreme Court are 9-0, 8-1 and 7-2. You just hear about the other ones.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      THey abide by it Steve

      Whether they abide by it or not is not determined by the passing opinions of Trump supporters

      It’s whether they really do abide by it

      It’s kind of silly At this point to make these kind of arguments bc you are upset at their politics

      The amount of judges in the court is not in the constitution. It’s also not violating the constitution to argue to amend the constitution

      We aren’t under some kind of tyrant system where people can’t have opinions on how their country works for them simply bc it offends every red hat wearing cult member that not everyone wants to pledge loyalty to donald trump

      Come on dude…

      I didn’t argue that a barrel violates her lathe bc I disagree with her politics. That’s a crazy rabbit hole to go down

      • D's avatar D says:

        So then you are OK with her appointment? If not then question what ya just said man. If this was Obama and he was headed out the door, and it happened on his shift, thats would have been fine for him to make the appointment, in fact if nothing iffy is going on with these appointments, it shouldn’t matter if its handled by an outside group, the right person for that job should be the right person period, there should be 0 politics involved with that appointment.

        Also i was seriously asking a question, because im not sure where you stand on the appointment of Barrett

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        If they did abide by it, when any random decision was made you wouldn’t be able to distinguish the right from the left. This has nothing to do with Trump, it’s my own question into why it matters how many judges are on each side, if the decision is supposed to be based on the constitution and not the party affiliation.

        Since the decisions are based on party affiliation, why are they allowed to sway from the constitution and not uphold their oath?

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I don’t like originalism D. I think it leads to impractical application of the law and misses huge cultural changes in our society. So I hate her process but I respect that she has one

        But the process is not improper imo
        And she’s a qualified judge in her abilities

        She’s less experienced than I think is appropriate for scotus
        And I think that reveals a problem with special interest groups pushing for nominees which shouldn’t happen

        I don’t think appointing her was improper

        I don’t give too much weight to the tit for tat
        But I think garland should have been on the scotus

  36. D's avatar D says:

    I see why RBG was an almost unanimous decision though i think she did start playing party politics after her appointment. She was a pivotal person in the legal battle for peoples rights, thats the epitome of what we want on there. It wasnt until much later that she not only was used as a political tool, but also started playing a little bit of politics herself. I would have voted for her for sure.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      RBG got approved 96-3 cause was a different age. Back then all that mattered was the nominees qualifications. Other side accepted you have the right to nominate and you do (no matter who controlled the Senate). Wish it was still that way.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Me too, i mean like i said, the appointment, whomever it was and whomever did it shouldn’t be too far off the same group of people up for consideration, but thats unfortunately not how it is. There shouldn’t be this much made over a supreme court appointment because we should roughly be selecting from the same people that everyone can agree on.

  37. D's avatar D says:

    Well Steve if it wasn’t it was a very convenient mistake lol, opens up the whole conversation for the talking point i know you were trying to make.

  38. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Madison had written that constitutional interpretation must be left to the reasoned judgment of independent judges, rather than to the tumult and conflict of the political process. If every constitutional question were to be decided by public political bargaining, Madison argued, the Constitution would be reduced to a battleground of competing factions, political passion and partisan spirit.

    judicial review was not confirmed until 1803, when it was invoked by Chief Justice John Marshall in Marbury v. Madison. In this decision, the Chief Justice asserted that the Supreme Court’s responsibility to overturn unconstitutional legislation was a necessary consequence of its sworn duty to uphold the Constitution. That oath could not be fulfilled any other way. “It is emphatically the province of the judicial department to say what the law is,” he declared.


    It is designed to provide for a national government sufficiently strong and flexible to meet the needs of the republic, yet sufficiently limited and just to protect the guaranteed rights of citizens;

    So the big govt the dems stand for and Medicare for all can be shot down in the SC?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Medicare for all would be a pure legislative decision. Structured right and don’t see what the Court would have a problem with.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Big govt, not what was intended.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        That’s your political opinion

        That’s not in the constitution

        The constitution does not require govt to be small

        The voters get to say how big or small they want it based on their votes

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Not what was intended? Seems now you want to read into the Constitution. You have a problem with social security or Medicare now? Same types of programs approved by the legislature.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I’m not reading shit into it, you guys are. The 2nd to last paragraph above I took from the SC says

        It is designed to provide for a national government sufficiently strong and flexible to meet the needs of the republic, yet sufficiently limited.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        steve — so that’s what Madison said back in the day. Is of interest, even if not a shut down argument in the Supreme Court. Explain why we have social security. Same kind of program.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      The legislative branch can pass legislation
      And if it’s challenged as unconstitutional, the scotus will decide whether that’s true or not

      And then decide whether the portion that’s not constitutional is severable or not

      Any major legalization can be shot down by the scotus

      This isn’t unique to m4a. It’s always been that way

      There are plenty of laws that survived those challenges and plenty that did not
      It’s always the way checks and balances work

      You can’t draft legislation, for example, that gets rid of the first amendment – if some one drafted a law that said, “Americans can’t voice their opinions at all” -it would be stricken even if it was very popular with the amercian public

      You vote for Congress
      You don’t vote for judges

      That’s checks and balances

      Basically, the laws congress passes – can’t violate the constitution
      And that applies to the states and their laws as well
      As well as city laws, etc…
      No one can pass laws that are unconstitutional

      And it’s not always easy to say when that occurs or it doesn’t

      A single payer healthcare system isn’t inherently unconstitutional

      If they severe the portion of the aca rather than strike it, then scotus pretty much lays down the foundation for what any future legislation might be permissible

  39. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    instead of giving the cards 62, we could have drafted Metcalf

  40. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    stangerx says:
    October 27, 2020 at 2:20 pm (Edit)
    steve — even originalists like Scalia did not go strictly by the constitution. That is simply impossible. Question is how much you read into it given the thing was written 250 years ago. The Barrets of the world want less…. but they are still doing it as well.

    ****

    Well said Stanger

    But this is way too much nuance for the cupping Trump’s balls crowd

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Your side is way too unconstitutional. Biden wants to appoint deuchebag beto to take guns away. As you say they can’t do that, so why is he campaigning on that?

      If they were to pack the court the checks and balance of the SC would be wiped out, why is that OK?

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        gun legislation is not inherently unconstitutional
        There are plenty of laws that pass scotus scrutiny

        …and there’s plenty that don’t

        That’s the process. You get to vote for legislators who agree with you. And if they go to far, scotus will strike it down

  41. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Did anyone else see we’re taking offers for Xavien Howard? Why?

  42. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Kong, that was very impressive! (Metcalf)

  43. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I’m guessing, as D said, anything for Howard is about Some one giving up many pics
    It’s probably some one’s offer, not that we are shopping him
    Like tunsil

  44. D's avatar D says:

    Ok completely random and pretty gross thought. Why is it that ear wax seem to almost spontaneously liquefy from time to time, and also despite cleaning your ears out pretty regularly, it seems to almost appear overnight…..its perplexing.

  45. D's avatar D says:

    ocalarob says:
    October 27, 2020 at 2:27 pm

    instead of giving the cards 62, we could have drafted Metcalf
    ————————————————-
    When he fell to the second i was thinking ok here is our shot to get him and when we traded that pick i knew we wouldn’t get him, but i also felt like getting Rosen was an ok compensation.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Obviously didn’t work out that way. He was easily in the top 3 receivers in that draft, him falling that far was just retarded.

  46. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Y’all know that the whole Barrett – SCOTUS thing is RBG’s fault, right? She is the reason that Trump got to nominate her replacement. She could have retired in her 80’s while Obama was president and ensured that her replacement would have been a liberal judge. But she didn’t. She held on to power until death. Now we have a conservative majority on the bench. C’est la vie…The democrats have no reason to complain.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Merrick Garland is a pretty good reason to complain

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        I have no problem with Barret joining the court. I do with Garland getting shut out.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        That’s the precedent, you have control of the Senate in an election year and your selection goes thru, you don’t and it doesn’t.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        “I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination.”
        — South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Was there a Senate of the same party?

      • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

        Nope. If RBG had retired the year before Garland would be a sitting Justice.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        steve — Graham said what he said as he helped block Garland. Did you see some exceptions in his statement?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      RBG made a mistake. Typical for Justices to retire before an election with a possible turnover, but then guess she like the world didn’t think there would be Trump. 2016 results were a shocker. But seems democrats have plenty of reason to complain about what RBG chose to do at her age.

  47. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Everyone has a price but at some point don’t you want to keep your great players? It’s not always about acquiring more picks, it’s about having great players. I think doing that now sends a bad message to a team that has already made a major move at QB. It’s almost saying not important how Tua does, this year doesn’t matter.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I agree. At some point keep your good licks and stop trying to get more of them

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      It really seems to me this defense came together once we had our top 2 CBs on the field. I’d hate to see us take a big step back.

      • D's avatar D says:

        I doubt it happens man, i dont think there is a worry to have, but this is a business and this is how the Pats have been dominant for decades.

    • D's avatar D says:

      You cant, not with Salary caps. You can keep them all, and like i said, there is no way Howard walks out of here without a lot in return, so its almost like they arent actually putting hinm on the market because who would pay what they are wanting, a manic right, maybe Bill Obrien, but he is out. So yeah i get it, it suck seeing great players get up and then leave, but there is a point where if you want to have long term health in the organization you do keep doing some of these things, before they lose value, before they become Rehsad Jones and you wish you took that offer ya had for him 2 years ago.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Also it sending a bad message, i dont see it. The players will make decisions best for them and call it a business decision, are they then allowed to see the reverse of that happen to them and say thats bullshit….people when arguing about football being able loyalty and support and blah blah blah they seems to say this when it affects them not when they profit by it.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Yes, to a point, but with Howard’s knees and his age not aligning with Tua’s I can see why they’d do it, but they better get a first at a min.

      • D's avatar D says:

        I wouldn’t trade him for anything less than a first this year and next or a first this year and maybe a 2nd this same year. Draft his replacement this , and add another guy who can help us have a next man up at another position. Or be able to ttake to stabs at drafting a replacement with the back to back firsts.

      • D's avatar D says:

        take two stabs

  48. D's avatar D says:

    The only real people safe in this system, and for the long term health of an organization is to either be the centerpiece of a group, like Byron Jones, on a big contract with lots of dead money, or to be more specific, not enough money to be freed up by dealing you, or to be on a rookie contract and not up for contract next year (and also be one for those corner-piece people). If not they will probably put you up and take what they feel is a good deal for the team. Having two vert CB’s both of which are really top of their game is kinda a luxury, should be the dark-side way, a Master and an Apprentice, so dealing one once the other peaks, is kinda how this system works. Again, my guess is the price tag on Howard is retarded high. Still if someone wants top pay it, they will take it and pick up Surtain next year and begin grooming him to replace Jones, so forth and so on.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      They say there’s an offer in place, and we’re considering it. Well if we’re shopping him and a deal is being considered, it’s not what they expected to get.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      I can’t agree with getting rid of X. He’s 27, I mean it takes time to get a guy to be where X is, so you get him there and then get rid of him? Maybe Iggy can be competent, maybe you can draft a guy as good, but you then you’re on a treadmill. We’re trying to get to the point where we’re a perennial playoff team, so you can’t keep subtracting talent and accomplish that.

  49. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I sort of agree it’s the Patriot way, and I’m down with that, but that is for the offseason. I don’t ever recall them trading away their talent in the middle of the season.

  50. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I would love to join in on this conversation….but I’m just too stupid. However, that doesn’t prevent me from commenting on football! Trade X. Hell, trade anybody on this team if you get a great deal for them. I’m in the mood to fuck everybody over! I feel quite Trumpian. Fuck everybody….and the gay mule they rode in on!

  51. D's avatar D says:

    pheloniusphish says:
    October 27, 2020 at 2:51 pm

    Y’all know that the whole Barrett – SCOTUS thing is RBG’s fault, right? She is the reason that Trump got to nominate her replacement. She could have retired in her 80’s while Obama was president and ensured that her replacement would have been a liberal judge. But she didn’t. She held on to power until death. Now we have a conservative majority on the bench. C’est la vie…The democrats have no reason to complain.
    ————————————————————-
    I almost commented to that effect. If she and the dems had been smart they would have asked her to resign right before Obama went out. They knew she wasn’t gonna make it much longer and though she has a very strong place in that branch, and helped them, they should have replaced her then. Hell i had like these images in my mid every time i heard about her, laying in some room strapped up to every life sustaining device known to man with the democrat leaders slapping her every time she started slipping a way and going, hang in there one more month dammit!. She should have stepped down so they could make the appointment.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      No problem with Barret taking over after RBG passed. She made her choice and it didn’t work out. Am sure the Obama folks wanted her to retire though…. even if don’t know for a fact.

  52. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Sure would be nice to play with X and Byron for a few games and Iggy at nickel, before making some rash trade, too bad Byron got hurt earlier.

    On the other hand it’s nice to have multiple 1st round picks.

  53. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I hope they don’t trade Howard. I mean if they get a Tunsil kind of offer and they think IbbyGibby can play the position the rest of the year…okay i guess. But I wouldn’t if i was GM of the world and had a clue. Defense is coming together and Howard is a big part of why.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      I have no clue where this talk came from….. not even much on the news. If they are going to trade him though….. they have 40 minutes.

  54. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    How many 1st round picks can a team use and still legitimately pick players that help win?

  55. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    I don’t understand the question. First round picks are always supposed to start, unless at QB and that isn’t in play here now.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Yes but if you load your team with first rounders at the expense of experienced players you are in constant player development phase. And statistically, half of them are not going to live up to the hype.

  56. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Maybe they are worried about Howard’s knees. After all, they see him in the locker room after every game.

  57. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    “Apes don’t read philosophy.”
    “Yes they do, Otto, they just don’t understand it.”

    “Let me correct you on a couple of things. Aristotle was not Belgian. The central philosophy of Buddhism is not ‘every man for himself’. And The London Underground is not a political movement. Those are all mistakes…”

    LOL

  58. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    I see Omar and the boys are back at it again!

  59. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  60. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    See! It didn’t make sense in the first place!

  61. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Have to give Adam Beasley credit for tweeting out that the SS is full of crap. Or maybe it wasn’t his reporting….. in which case interesting times in the office.

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  62. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    “A Fish Called Wanda” is a great flick…one of my favorites. It doesn’t hurt that Jamie Lee Curtis’ boobs are in it…..oh, and John Cleese. Lol

  63. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    I can’t give you any Omar tweets. I don’t follow him!

  64. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Ok I went and found this!
    SMH

  65. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    I will say this about all of the comments are bout trading players, or cutting them just at the star of their decline…..that’s great, I hope we do that AFTER we have appeared in and won a few more Super Bowls and can start to call ourselves a dynasty. We haven’t done anything close to that in 40 years, so call me when that happens, otherwise I would like us to start KEEPING some of these guys

  66. Rhino's avatar Rhino says:

    Dolphins 23
    Rams 20

  67. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    If the SCOTUS should be non-partisan why does the Federalist Society exist? Why are 6 of the 9 judges on the SCOTUS all hand picked by this “non-partisan HA! HA! group”?

    Hypocrisy

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Society
      The Federalist Society doesn’t hand pick any judge. They have a membership and an opinion. That’s it. 6 of the current 9 Supremes were members. Not particularly surprising since it is a conservative/libertarian organization. Exists to counter liberal loonies attempts to throw the constitution away.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        is it focused on sitting judges from the RIGHT?

        YES IT IS.

        My statement stands.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Federalist Society is something more than some kind of club these days. Mitch and Trump have pretty much been going off their recs as far as judges and justices. And there is nothing wrong with that…. but a major force in the legal world so long as the is a conservative Pres.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Yes, judges from the right. Conservatives and Libertarians.

  68. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    We MAY have already drafted Howards replacement in the first round this past draft. Iggy is a good prospect and they have kept him on the boundary for a reason….

    I don’t want to lose Howard, but he has never stayed healthy a whole season and has bad knees.

    If we can get multiple high picks ( a first and more) I might make the trade.

  69. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Late to the party, by the time I comment it is revealed that the whole thing is fake new by Omar!?

  70. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    D,
    Whenever I watch Forrest Gump, I’m the opposite. I like to fast forward to the part where Jenny dies and then do my best Nelson Muntz impression.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Well truthfully i 90% of the time watch it all the way through, it just depends on if i feel the need to feel good. Like i hate Jenny as a character, (and as a name come to think about it, my ex is named Jenny lol), but i feel bad for little forest that he doesnt get to have his whore cunt mother around to see him grow up.

  71. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Omar’s tweet says “Full Discloser.” Dude is supposed to be a journalist and doesn’t know the term is “Full Disclosure?” What a tool…journalism is dead.

  72. D's avatar D says:

    pheloniusphish says:
    October 27, 2020 at 3:16 pm

    I hope they don’t trade Howard. I mean if they get a Tunsil kind of offer and they think IbbyGibby can play the position the rest of the year…okay i guess. But I wouldn’t if i was GM of the world and had a clue. Defense is coming together and Howard is a big part of why.
    ————————————————————————-
    That or with one of the two firsts they already have they could land Surtain, or Wade from OSU. Both more pree style CB’s who could fill that role better than Iggy. Iggy isnt too shabby on the outside, but to me his skillset is much better for NCB

  73. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Wouldn’t it be great if the Biplanes got the number one pick and Lawrence decided to stay in school?

    Trevor Lawrence: My mindset has been to go pro, but who knows?

  74. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  75. D's avatar D says:

    I mean the movie had a ton of great comedic actors/actresses but Kevin Kline to me stole the show.

  76. D's avatar D says:

    CBS Sports’ Cody Benjamin constructed a position-by-position list of 75 players that could be on the move ahead of the Nov. 3 trade deadline. Some of the notable names include Saints quarterback Jameis Winston, Bengals wide receiver A.J. Green, Texans edge rusher J.J. Watt and Patriots cornerback Stephon Gilmore. For the full list, check out CBSSports.com.
    ————————————————–
    Guess i wasnt off on the Texans willing to trade Watt. Maybe he goes to the Steelers where he joins both his brothers.

  77. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  78. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Rock, Libertarians are not right wing. They are fiscally conservative but socially liberal as they believe in individual freedom and that you own yourself.

  79. D's avatar D says:

    Haason Reddick, whom many of you all drooled over during his draft year, is supposedly available as is Watt and Mercilus, Takk McKinley, Dunlap from the Bengals, and Ingram from the Chargers. Some of those are nice names to consider, Reddick i wasn’t big on when he was drafted, i felt like he wasnt going to hit the ground running so i wouldnt have used a high pick on him, but he has very slowly developed to be a pretty decent player, so now that all the work has been done it might not be a bad play if the price is right. Keep in mind the pass rush pool isn’t that great next year, some decent players, and some decent hybrid types, but nothing outstanding.

  80. D's avatar D says:

    Myles Jack is supposed on the block, as well as Sheldon Rankins from the saints, those are two players that make us better as well. Marcus Maye from the Jets, though it kinda helps them go full dumpster fire.

  81. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Discloser eh? Omar should have checked that one before throwing that out there . . .

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      He didn’t back down though, chose to play the victim. Would love to know where he did get the info. Dolphins would too.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Not backing down doesn’t necessarily mean he did the right thing. He might have had a bad source, either way, just say it was mistake and explain why.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        All he had to do was check with the team and report their response. He could have written the exact same article, same headline, and thrown a single line with the team’s response. He’s a shitty reporter.

  82. D's avatar D says:

    Lol, they guy is such a fag play thug that one day he is going to catch a beat down for his posing lol. I hope one of the fucking player just snap and tear his braided coconut off. Maybe we get a real thug ass white receiver, like out of Penn U and i dont mean Pennsylvania \University. He pulls some white receiver shit on him and he straight up grabs the braids and walks off with that fucker head and straight back to prison lol. Full on Hernandez style and just sits down and goes “worth it”.

  83. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “Wasn’t that terrible, the difference? All this anger, craziness, right?…Fire coming out of her eyes.”
    — about 78-year-old Lesley Stahl, who far as I can tell is real polite. But guess she is real scary to some.

  84. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  85. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    I don’t know how to tell you guys this but last week was our bye week. Or bi week. Whatever does it for you. Nothing judgy from me.

  86. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    My biggest concern for this weekends game is the speed of the game for Tua. Rams only had 3 sacks against the Bears but their pressure was relentless and we still don’t have a run game.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think we run the ball well enough to keep a defense honest. It would be nice to see some more explosive plays overall though.

  87. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Stanger – Didn’t see it, but he’s dealt with some real nonsense from 2 of the moderators so maybe she just went over the top and he decided he didn’t want to deal with it. Do you know what she said, how she said it?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      She continued to pepper him with the same questions after he answered them as if he said the opposite. You know how Kamala Harris always has that big arrogant smile as if anything against her is a joke, that’s what Lesley Stahl reminded me of.

      I’ll ask a simple question: who do you think Lesley Stahl supports?

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Of course. I just read an article on it. So she proceeds to ask him why he called Fauci and idiot. He said I never called Fauci an idiot, he said in response to her question about COVID that people don’t want to hear about Fauci anymore, and these idiots that got it wrong. He asked he why she doesn’t talk about Biden, she said we don’t bring up unverified information. WHAT A CROCK! You know what, fuck Lelsey Stahl and the liberal media she works for.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Another thing about Kamala Harris is when she’s talking about growing up as a young black girl, she reverts to talking like an 8 year old who is on the verge of crying. It’s such an act it makes my skin crawl. That’s one of the main reasons I’ve been against Democrats for decades. They speak to people and mostly their base as if they’re children and they will never survive without them. They use different dialects for different groups they are speaking to. Big Brother and Big Sister to the rescue. It’s so disrespectful and demeaning and people buy into it. Sad.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Guess you guys saw the interview different than I did. Trump still cut it short for what me seemed little reason, but guess that just my take.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I think he’s tired of the same old same old nonsense. There is no doubt the mass media is bias in favor of the Democratic Party. So now you need independent social media outlets to balance it out. I’ve been seeing this long before Trump.

  88. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  89. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    This may seem a little far fetched, but then again, there’s some crazy stuff that gets posted here. It has crossed my mind more than once that Trump never intended to be President. I think he said he was running the last time and it just took off. I think he was bragging and spewing stuff like he does, and BOOM, he was ahead in the polls. And it went from there, and with some help from the Dems by putting Hillary as his opponent, he won.

    After the first debate, it made me think of it again. I think that show was intentional. He never intended to win the first time, and now he’s trying to lose it this time. I think he’s tired of it. He’s able to brag about how the economy was doing before Covid came along, he can blame any problems currently on Covid and get out by losing.

    Stranger things….

  90. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I’m not a big Kevin Kline fan, but he was excellent in Wanda. They were all really good, actually.

  91. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Herd,
    I think Trump simply wanted to be able to brag that he was President and that he made our economy boom. He already has and will continue to make money off it, but it’s really about his ego and what he can now say forever he was or did. Actually doing the work of being a President was never something he was interested in. The ego stroke and the power rush are all he really wanted.

  92. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    D are you East of the cone?
    I’m pretty sure BBM is?

  93. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I’m surprised Steve or Phelon haven’t mentioned Tony Bobulinki’s interview with Tucker. There’s the smoking gun for Biden corruption and why he’s compromised. Guy has sold America out to ensure his family profited off our biggest competitor. On the other side, people still talk about Russia and Trump when there’s video of Biden bragging of withholding financial aid to Ukraine. Russia, with an economy smaller than California is a bigger threat than China? Ummmm, what?!

  94. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    i bet you all, one american dollar that NOBODY will watch this, and still vote for that corrupt old fucking fool.

    • TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

      wait a minute …… i take that bet back ………i just remembered how many American hating liberals support that crooked bastard, and will ignore the truth ……….sad.

  95. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    Q: any of you guys wonder why the main stream media refuses to even cover this?
    A: FAKE ASS NEWS.
    Q: any of you guys wonder why Tucker Carlson is kicking ass in the ratings?
    A: probably because he EXPOSES THE TRUTH.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      Tucker is my favorite media person now. He’s far better than Hannity or anyone honestly. He will call out both sides but there’s a lot more ammo on the left.

  96. TOP SECRET's avatar TOP SECRET says:

    dude cracks me up…….lol.

  97. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Happy Birthday Herd!!!

  98. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Top

    When can we expect the clips of alien abductions and Elvis sightings?

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