Week 10 – Chargers @ Dolphins

This game is much more than Tua vs Herbert, I’ve just become fond of the mirror image bookend windups of both righty and lefty QB’s together. Don’t get me wrong, both of these players will play a large role in the game, but right now the Dolphins defense is an equal shareholder in the outcome of this team. I mentioned this the other day and I think this information is still sinking in. Half the season is completed and our Miami Dolphins are in the top 10 in offensive scoring (10th) at 27.8 PPG and 4th in defensive scoring at 20.1 PPG. We’re plus 61 in point differential. We knew this was year 1 of the rebuild after the tear down and I can’t imagine that any of us expected this type of result so quickly.

Emmanuel Ogbah has been so impressive this season. He has more sacks at the halfway point of the season (7) than he has had in any full season. His 13 QB hits are 3 away from topping his season best in which he started all 16 games. He’s playing 76% of the defensive snaps and is on pace to equal his rookie year of playing over 800 snaps. The thing is, it’s not just Ogbah, everyone is making plays. Ogbah has started them with the strip sacks in back to back games but Andrew Van Ginkel scooped up one fumble and ran it back for a TD and then the next week it was Shaq Lawson with the scoop and the fumble recovery TD return. Elandon Roberts has made some big defensive stops. Byron Jones and Xavien Howard have been balling although last week Howard struggled all day. Eric Rowe has been playing very well along with Bobby McCain. Big Raekwon Davis, Zach Sieler and Christian Wilkins have been money on the defensive line. If I asked you which Dolphins DB has the most passes defensed I’d be willing to bet nearly all of you would guess wrong. It’s Eric Rowe with 9. BTW, Shaq Lawson is just one shy of Ogbah with 12 QB hits. You don’t hear his name as much but he’s getting it done.

The 2-6 Chargers come in 17th in offensive scoring at 25.6 PPG and 21st in defensive scoring at 27 PPG and they have a -11 point differential. This Chargers defense was supposed to be better with Joey Bosa, Melvin Ingram, Denzel Perryman, Kenneth Murray etc. The Chargers recently traded away safety Desmond King and now have the duo of Rayshawn Jenkins and Nasir Adderly. The Chargers defense hasn’t been what they expected but their offense has been humming despite the running back carousel of Austin Ekeler (IR), Joshua Kelley and Justin Jackson. Ekeler is the most explosive of the crew and he’s been on IR for weeks. The Chargers are now featuring RB’s Kalen Ballage and Troymaine Pope due to injuries to Justin Jackson and Joshua Kelley. WR Keenan Allen leads the team in receptions followed by WR Mike Williams. No longer does that dominant TE control the middle of the field (Antonio Gates). Still, QB Justin Herbert is having a fantastic rookie season completing 67% of his passes with 17 TD’s and only 5 INT’s and 2146 yards passing.

For our Dolphins, the hope is that Matt Breida will be healthy or we’ll see the committee of Jordan Howard, Salvon Ahmed and Patrick Laird. Ahmed looked to have some giddyup while Jordan Howard ran like he had a blocking sled tied to his waist. Ahmed had 38 yards on 7 carries and a long carry of 19 yards. Breida is questionable with a hamstring injury. WR Preston Williams is on IR with a foot injury sustained on his TD catch against the Cards. There’s a chance we will see WR Antonio Callaway this week as he makes his long journey back to an NFL gameday roster, his last NFL action was 11/3/19. Jakeem Grant was more involved in the passing game than usual and he stepped up. Tua now makes his third NFL start, his 2nd at home. I would think the small crowd will be in a frenzy. I just hope we can keep up the good work we’ve done the last 4 games.


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1,397 Responses to Week 10 – Chargers @ Dolphins

  1. steveccnv says:

    Watched the Phinsider’s All22 last night. They breakdown all of Tua’s passes from the previous game. I don’t care much for these guys, but the film don’t lie, and Tua was really off, for him, most of the game. With that said, we still won comfortably.

    He did however make some big plays at key times in the game. He seems to miss Williams and isn’t quite in sync with others yet, but still getting it done. His pocket pressence has been very good and he’s a playmaker, so…

  2. D says:

    Tears for Fears was my favorite 80’s band, they also have my favorite 80’s song.

  3. wyoming85 says:

    Brian Flores Wednesday November 18 media thread
    8:18 AM · Nov 18, 2020·Twitter Web App
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Flores on big plays by X and Ogbah

    Over the course of a season a player plays roughly 1,000 snaps. Everyone focuses on the sacks and interceptions, and we love those plays, but it’s the other 990 plays that we as a staff try to focus on to get right.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Flores on preparing for 2 QBs with Drew Lock’s uncertain status

    You watch them all, they’ve both played. We watch it and we evaluate those guys — their strengths and weaknesses in conjunction with out game plan.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Flores on Lawson keeping it light

    Shaq has a great laugh apparently. He’s fun to be around. You don’t want to temper that. You bring his energy to the rest of the group, they feed off of it and it makes us a better team.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Flores on balance between focused time and keeping it light

    What we do, it’s not easy. Football is demanding. It’s a physical game, a violent game. Any way you can make it fun as a coach, you need to try to do that. As a coach the best approach is to let players be themselves.
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Flores offers praise for the young Denver skill players — Jeudy, Hamler, Fant, good backs.

    • steveccnv says:

      The D came alive after Jones came back. It allowed the passrush time to impact the game. It also gave the amoeba D some relevance.

  4. D says:

    80’s was easily the best decade of music, though it really only wins that race by the tip of the nose, because the 90’s were really damn good too.

    • D says:

      To me the gap after that is really big.

    • steveccnv says:

      The 80s music was more fad to me. It was great in the 80s and 90s, but it doesn’t stand the test of time. Looking back there were lots of one hit wonders that defined the decade almost as much as the big guys. The lyrics were cheesy too.

  5. wyoming85 says:

  6. New Age says:

    MF13 is thinking the same way as I. There just aren’t many issues with this team and it’s damn impressive. We finally have a top tier D again. It took Flores/Grier less than two years. Amazing! Our OL is far better than it has been for a while as well. That’s without having an OL full of first round picks! We finally are getting results from guys that didn’t use our first round just to block decently.

    Tua is great so far at just managing the O and we have some really good pieces. I’d like an early WR and DE. Get a great RB and maybe one more OL or DT to cover for expected losses. I don;t see where we aren’t in the thick of things for quite a long time. It didn’t take twenty years or the 3-4 everyone always says we need. It took less than two because we finally got a great coach again. I wish Shula could see these Dolphins today.

    • steveccnv says:

      Doing an actual roster explosion was key. It allowed them to get their guys via the draft and FA.

      • New Age says:

        That, actually getting the right talent, letting bad picks go, and teaching players to be better. I just looked up McMillian. Round 2 pick but didn’t fit. Cheap contact but still didn’t fit. We let him go and it improved the defense. He’s a ST dude for the Raiders now. Our OL under Gase in his only winning season had FOUR first round OL. We have two now but one was a cheap pick up project. Everything we do is just better now.

  7. wyoming85 says:

    Ah the 80’s!
    Throw the sound track to Vision Quest in the cassette player, and take out the speakers behind the seat and put them on the roof!
    Go get another cup from the keg!!

  8. wyoming85 says:

  9. wyoming85 says:

    Delivering the SmackDown!

  10. wyoming85 says:

  11. D says:

    I like the Amoeba defense. I have never truly understood the concept of person a does this person be does that you do this if you line up this way you do that if you line up that way, i mean for fucks sake if you follow a static set of rules then they also know what your doing because they also use the same techniques. The Amoeba is a little extreme version of confusion schemes with the guys all floating around back there all in standing rush positions so you dont exactly know who is doing what.

    Our whole defense operates like that 90% of the time, even when the guys are more traditionally lined up. The 8/9 in the box and some peeling out some of the time but not all the time really fucks with OL protection calls, etc so if i had to call our defense any one thing its called confusion, and its working.

    Kinda like the Pats were on offense and defense when Flores with them, they have like three formations and they call things differently out of those 3 formation such as to really confuse the fuck out of the other side. Its almost impossible to prepare for because you can watch tape all day and you really cant find anything to key off of. Amoeba is the pinnacle of that confusion because they aren’t even lined up so you cant tell who the Mike is, you cant tell who any of the positions truly are.

    • D says:

      Some of my favorite defenses for UF was when Muschamp was the HC. Granted he couldn’t get a good offensive mind to run that side of the ball, but his defenses were elite and a lot of the philosophy he had then was similar to Flores. Lots of shifts prior to snap, especially on the DL, some at the LB level, but almost 100% of the time the DL shifted just prior to snap. Great CB’s and secondary, confusion up front on the DL, Gators defenses under him were always top 5 in the country.

      • steveccnv says:

        They could surely use him now, that D sucks.

      • steveccnv says:

        You could also say the same thing about the defense of the “U”. The U’s D reminds me of many of ours in the past, it succeeds only when great individual plays are made. I don’t see that now, we win a lot based on scheme, especially 3rd down.

      • D says:

        Id take Muschamp back in a heartbeat as the DC, just not as HC, he just isn’t capable of calling the whole thing. Grantham isn’t a bad DC, he is just having a bad year, and probably because thy replaced most of their starters from last year, combo that up with little to no ability to prepare or have an off-season program and they dont look like a normal UF defense this year. Most defenses aren’t looking very good this year.

    • steveccnv says:

      I remember a Monday night game about 4 years ago, we came in with a record close to the cheats. We thought we had arrived, but belicheat Amoeba(d) us to death and Tannehill wilted like the flower he is. We lost by 20+

  12. steveccnv says:

    Our plug and play team succeeds often, because of the scheme. Confuse, confuse, confuse them. Even the TD to Smythe.

  13. D says:

    We should trade Geisicki at the end of the year and take Kyle Pitts in the draft. Yes i know….but dammit i want that dude on our team lol.

  14. wyoming85 says:

    I can’t believe Vision Quest Hasn’t gotten any love??????

    Only the Young, Journey
    Change, John Waite
    Shout to the Top , The Style Council
    Gambler, Madonna
    She’s on the Zoom, Don Henley
    Hungry for Heaven, Dio
    Lunatic Fringe, Red Rider
    I’ll Fall in Love Again, Sammy Hagar
    Hot Blooded, Foreigner
    Crazy for You, Madonna

  15. CavalierKong says:


    Walking around gas stations in the middle of the night, drunk, carrying an unlicensed, loaded gun in your pocket. WTF? You’ve literally got millions and this is what you do?

  16. stangerx says:

    Other than us the only hard match left for the Bills is the Steelers….. and yeah don’t count the Pats as one.

    Buffalo Bills (7-3)
    – Week 11: Bye Week
    – Week 12: vs. Los Angeles Chargers
    – Week 13: @ San Francisco 49ers
    – Week 14: vs. Pittsburgh Steelers
    – Week 15: @ Denver Broncos
    – Week 16: @ New England Patriots
    – Week 17: vs. Miami Dolphins

    • CavalierKong says:

      I’m really hoping the Steelers lose to the Ravens before the Bills game. If they don’t I have to root for the Bills in that game even though it may cost us.

      • steveccnv says:

        The Steelers aren’t winning the SB this year, don’t worry about them being undefeated.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I sure hope not. I think you’re probably right, but this is my particular yearly burden. I always sweat it until the last undefeated team is beaten.

        My best friend is a Niners fan, another good friend is a Steelers fan. We all talk a gang of shyte, and all I’ve got that they can’t touch is the undefeated season, so I hold onto it for dear life, lol.

      • steveccnv says:

        I usually sweat it out too, but not this year.

    • steveccnv says:

      We just need to win out, but it’s the NFL the jets almost beat them, but couldn’t put the ball in the endzone.

      • stangerx says:

        13-3 and the division crown would be epic, but I’d settle for 11-5 right now……… even if come in as a WC.

  17. wyoming85 says:

  18. CavalierKong says:

    It’d be nice if Wilkins comes off the list, but if he isn’t by end of today, it may mean he actually had a positive test and we’ll lose him for another game.

  19. wyoming85 says:

  20. wyoming85 says:

  21. bailbondmike says:

    Piggy, I am glad you posted the video on WR Rashod Bateman. He is a good one. I kind of see him as like Preston Williams and Jarvis Landry smashed together. Meaning he has size (Williams) and physicality (Landry). Goes up and gets the ball (Williams). Speed won’t wow you, 4.54 40(projected) (Landry). Good at getting release off LOS (Williams). Makes spectacular catches and has hands of glue. (Laundry).

    I would prefer someone a bit faster though. I am not so high on Ross from clemson.

    I do think Bateman is going to be great in the NFL. I would rather draft a faster big WR in Terrace Marshall from LSU who could be picked somewhere around where Bateman will be taken.

    This WR class will be almost as deep as last year. IMO

  22. CavalierKong says:

    Denver has the 2nd best redzone defense in the NFL at 50%. The key to dominating this game will be getting TDs. If we do that a couple of times early, we should get an easy win. If they hold us to FGs, it might be a tighter contest, which I still expect us to come out with a W.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I wonder how long Elway has in Denver

    • CavalierKong says:

      Denver doesn’t do anything particularly well.

      Twenty-sixth in overall offense (334.0 yards per game), 19th in rushing (106.6), 23rd in passing (227.4), 28th in scoring offense (20.7 points per game).

      Seventeenth in overall in defense (360.0 yards per game), 23rd in rushing defense (128.8), 14th in passing defense (231.2), 27th in scoring defense (28.2 points per game).

  23. bailbondmike says:

    WR Terrace Marshall, 6’4 200, is a TD machine. He had 13 TD’s last year and he was the #3 WR behind Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson. He already has 9 TD’s this season. He would be one that I would look at if we don’t go for a speedy waterbug type WR like Waddle or Rondale Moore.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He’s really an interesting fit for us

      Do we want a big WR on the other side of Parker. It’s kind of like Clemson’s Ross for us.

      I kind of law the idea of Tua throwing to the modern Irvin/Harper duo on the outside

      Then maybe some quicker smaller guys in the slot

  24. stangerx says:

    Maybe we let him go at the right time. Probably a minor charge, but 4:15 a.m. You’ll never read a story like this about Zach or JT.

    MIAMI (CBSMiami/AP) – Former Miami Dolphins Reshad Jones was arrested early Wednesday on a charge of carrying a concealed firearm.

    According to a police report, Jones was walking in a gas station parking lot at 4:15 a.m. with a loaded handgun protruding from his pants pocket, and said he had never had a concealed weapons permit.

    Jones became difficult with officers and appeared to be under the influence of an unknown substance, the arrest report said.

  25. stangerx says:

    Anyone have a scouting report on Brett Rypien? Sorta of hoping we need one.

  26. The Flying Pig says:

    I hate to narrow down the 7 samurai so early
    But right now it’s really shaping up to be 2 Alabama WRs, 2 LSU WRs, 1 Clemson WR, 1 Minnesota WR and a 7th guy

  27. The Flying Pig says:

  28. The Flying Pig says:

    Mocking your opponents after defeating them is exactly what social media is for

  29. Mike E. says:

    I wonder if Colombo was as good a fighter as he was a turnstile . . .

  30. mf13ss says:

    CavalierKong says:
    November 18, 2020 at 12:29 pm
    … I always sweat it until the last undefeated team is beaten…

    100%, and this is the mark of a DIEHARD Miami Dolphins fan. When the G-Men beat the Patsies* in the Super Bowl after the 2007 regular season, methinks we Phins fans registered on the Richter Scale all over the Earth.

    Me too, CavKong… I won’t rest easy until the Stealers* are beaten this year.

  31. wyoming85 says:

  32. wyoming85 says:

  33. wyoming85 says:

  34. Rockphin says:

    CavalierKong says:
    November 18, 2020 at 1:07 pm
    “Denver doesn’t do anything particularly well.”

    Except for redzone defense…

    So we run routes for 21 yards out😂

  35. wyoming85 says:

  36. Tim Knight says:

    Yes Mike was right what I was saying about Tua. I don’t think he’ll put up a lot of big numbers games this year nor do I think the coaches want him having to throw it all over the place this year. That may happen n the future as we continue to build round him. This year we’re winning in all three phases and I think we want to continue to win in that way.

  37. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, did you see that Robinson Canó is suspended for the 2021 season due to PEDs? Good thing we have Andrés Giménez who really emerged last year.

  38. Ken says:

    One of my twin sons has his first college acceptance. Nova Southeast University in Ft. Lauderdale with some decent scholarship money. Might have to look into some tix for next season. Of course my other son was moping that he didn’t get the first acceptance

  39. Ken says:

    Ken’s rule #1 of employment: Don’t get into a fistfight with your boss

  40. pheloniusphish says:

    I may have to spring for season tixs next year too now that we have the house in the Keys.

  41. bailbondmike says:

    Piggy, I am right with you on your Samurai. That 7th may be Rondale Moore from Purdue. He is a Grantman type with more size. I think I have posted him before.

  42. bailbondmike says:

    I feel, if you draft a WR in the 1st round, you take Waddle.

  43. The Flying Pig says:

    Covid Travel restrictions threatening to ruin your holidays?

    Fear not

    There is a can for you to help you get by!

  44. Tim Knight says:

    Just realized Gaskin and Ahmed both played at Washington. Is that our RB factory now? 😉

  45. wyoming85 says:

  46. wyoming85 says:


  47. ElephantRider says:

    My expectations for Tua are for next year and beyond. You don’t pine for a player for an entire year and not expect him to be the guy that puts the team on their back and carry them to a championship. I want Rodgers or Mahomes type of awesomeness. I think we are all owed that! Lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      The issue with that is we weren’t necessarily pining for Tua for an entire year, the rest of the football world was. LOL

      I hear what you’re saying though. I think in time Tua will be one of those top QBs in the league.

      • ElephantRider says:


        I think the organization was tho. Maybe not as hard as the media, but it had to start somewhere. Either way they got him. Its go time! He’s already made a play here and there that had “it”. I’m excited and obviously have very high expectations! Lol

      • Tim Knight says:

        Oh it is go time now. At 6-3 and 5 wins in a row you no longer get to say well we’re still rebuilding. The entire team would be disappointed if we didn’t make the playoffs. We have 3 very winnable games coming up. But this is the NFL and a slip up is possible. No less than 2-1 in the next 3.

    • stangerx says:

      LOL ER — why you picking on the Samoan Marino? 🙂

  48. wyoming85 says:

  49. bailbondmike says:

    Piggy, here is another speedster Samurai for ya. You don’t really hear anything about him cause he is playing on a team that is not very good right now. WR Marquez Stevenson, 6’0 190, from Houston.

  50. bailbondmike says:

    Piggy, another speedster is Tutu Atwell from Louisville. He is Grantman size and runs a 4.27.

    Tua to Tutu for the TD!

  51. wyoming85 says:

    • Tim Knight says:

      That was good. But not all players are really into speaking about in-depth stuff. I know why McCain is so revered on the team and why he calls the defense. He’s a dog and he’s smart. No he’s not your prototype build at FS but it’s not always about that.

      Tua is well grounded so he gives you just enough. He’s got the right mindset to lead as a QB but he’s still in his infancy as an NFL QB and he respects that.

  52. steveccnv says:

    Funny bastard😏 Baker was miked up for the Chargers game, and was on the bench shooting the shit with his boys, one of the coaches comes over, knowing he’s miked up, and says, did you take care of that rash you told me about.

  53. steveccnv says:

    Howard’s return didn’t go far enough to matter, but Jones again was flying in, right by his side, to escort him into the endzone, just in case.

  54. Ken says:

    LOL at New Age and the brass knuckles

  55. manitobafinfan says:

    So we’re saying Giants HC was Judge, Jury and Executioner ..

    Did not realize Columbo was their OL coach until today .. explains a lot

  56. Tim Knight says:

    It’s obvious the coaches want Malcolm Perry to be in the mix on offense. We used him early on in the Wildcat which hasn’t been effective. Now he had some snaps and a couple of catches as a slot receiver. His kind of quicks and versatility late in a game against a tired defense could be valuable like a 4th quarter pass rush. Something to think about. 🙂

  57. olddolphan says:

    WHAT ASPECT OF THE DOLPHINS WIN over the Chargers was mostly overlooked by fans and pundits alike? I’d say it was the POWER OF THE THROWBACKS!!!! There’s something about those oversized letters of the players’ names and numbers that just makes you recall the glory days of this once dominant football franchise. And the FULLY SIZED DOLPHIN AT THE 50 YARD LINE leaves NO DOUBT about who’s in charge AT THIS STADIUM!!
    I HOPE WITH ALL MY HEART that the “Throwbacks” will be utilized when the Dolphins host the biggest home game of the year – – – THE KANSAS CITY CHIEFS- – – in December. _ _ THE WHOLE FOOTBALL WORLD WILL BE WATCHING!!!
    Time to walk the greyhound and call it a night.

  58. The Flying Pig says:


    I can’t tell you how much I want to draft a guy named Tutu

  59. wyoming85 says:

    Funny stuff!

    On this day in 1854, Texas hero Sam Houston joined Independence Baptist Church and was baptized in nearby Little Rocky Creek by Rufus C. Burleson.

    When Burleson lifted Houston out of the river, he said, “Sam, your sins are washed away.” The 61-year-old Houston replied, “I pity the fish downstream.”

  60. wyoming85 says:

    Brian Flores Thursday November 19 media thread
    8:27 AM · Nov 19, 2020·Twitter Web App
    Travis Wingfield
    Replying to
    Coach talked at length about Eric Rowe and Bobby McCain growing together and the communication among the entire secondary continues to get stronger each week. Acknowledges it needs to keep improving.
    Travis Wingfield
    Coach on the amoeba package and defensive looks/game planning

    “We encourage creativity.”
    Travis Wingfield
    Coach talked about the roles of Kyle Van Noy and if you don’t have him it’s a committee of players that fill his role. Mentioned he plays linebacker, end, inside, outside, he does a lot.

    • steveccnv says:

      When you try to replace Bobby with the more talented Jones it doesn’t always work right away, because Bobby has so much knowledge about this D and it isn’t readily trumped by skill, so Jones needs to build that part up first.

  61. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    November 18, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    Just realized Gaskin and Ahmed both played at Washington. Is that our RB factory now?
    They produce good backs i think, not your top tier guys but a lot of very good blue collar kinda guy, mostly waterbug types as BBM would call them.

    • bailbondmike says:

      Yeah, they don’t really have a good feature back coming out this next draft. I believe it has been running back by committee this year between some seniors who were stuck behind Gaskin and Ahmed. One big back and another dude who doesn’t get many touches but is one of the fastest players in college football. Runs a sub 4.3. Must not have the instincts to go with that speed.

  62. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!

  63. steveccnv says:

    The biggest issue on O is not having a go to guy to move the chains, someone Tua feels comfortable with. I think Williams was that guy against AZ, then Parker was it in the 2nd half.

    The cheats had Welker and Edelman, and the Bill’s have Beasley. Someone needs to step up, maybe Perry can be that guy.

  64. wyoming85 says:

    It’s Game ………………………….
    2 weeks in a row??????????
    M#*$% F!@^*^# C%#^ S%*^@#

  65. Rockphin says:



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