So many things had to happen in order for this miraculous comeback to occur. I suppose you can pick a number of different things to be the most important one. I would say the missed extra point by Raiders kicker Daniel Carlson. To me, that was the the start, because it left the door open for the win. In any case, let’s get to how the Dolphins DID win it, which you pretty much have to see to really comprehend.
With 3:37 remaining in the 4th QTR, Raiders QB throws a deep pass while on the run, running to escape pressure and somehow the pass finds WR Nelson Agholor on the right sideline with Byron Jones in coverage. Jones slips trying to make the tackle and then all that’s left is Good Ole Bobby McCain who is unable to even lay a finger on the serpentine weaving of said Agholor. Then the fatal mistake, K Daniel Carlson goes wide right on the extra point making the score 22-16 in favor of the LV Raiders. But wait, is that the turning point, or is it the 9:37 mark of the 4th QTR when Miami Dolphins HC chooses to pull starting QB Tua Tagovailoa and replace him with veteran Ryan Fitzpatrick? You can make the decision.
Down 22-16, Fitzpatrick the QB now, begins a drive with 3minutes and 36 seconds remaining in the game after a touchback which starts at the MIA 25. 2 consecutive short completions to WR Isaiah Ford for 7 and then 9 yards get the Dolphins a first down at the 41 yard line. On first down, Raiders bring pressure and Fitz throws to his outlet, RB Myles Gaskin on the right side and little magic happens her as Gaskin makes a couple of moves and races down the right sideline for a 59 yard TD!!! So with 3 minutes and 8 seconds remaining, the Dolphins now have 23-22 lead.
The Raiders take the touchback and begin at their own 25. QB Derek Carr throws complete to RB Jalen Richard, 2nd and 6. On 2nd and 6, Derek Carr uncorks a deep throw to Nelson Agholor which is incomplete but PASS INTERFERENCE is called on Miami CB Byron Jones. I thought the call was understandable as there is a clear picture where Byron Jones has both hands on the receiver, one on either side of the shoulder pads. While I think the contact is mostly negligible, if you’re an official and you see it, you have the right to call it. Some here were incensed by the call and my very good friend who’s a Steelers fan thought it was an egregious call, so there’s that. In any case, the Raiders now have a first down at the MIA 22 with 2:20 remaining.
On 1st down, Josh Jacobs rushes for 7 yards to the MIA 15 yard line. 2nd and 3 and Jacobs rushes again for 2 yards to the MIA 13 setting up a huge 3rd and 1. No wait! Neutral zone infraction on Kyle Van Noy and an automatic first down at the Miami 8 yard line. Jacobs pushes for 2 yards to the Miami 6, tackled by Van Noy and Miami now uses it’s final timeout, with 1:50 remaining in the game. 2nd down and Jacobs takes it the end zone, NO, he purposely hits the brakes and falls down at the Miami 1 yard line, touched down by Bobby McCain. The Raiders then take a timeout of their own at 1:05 to discuss strategy. On 3rd and goal, Carr kneels and the Raiders run the clock down to 22 seconds remaining. Daniel Carson then comes out on 4th and goal and kicks the game winning 22 yard field goal that send the Dolphins home and out of the playoffs. OK, that’s not what happened, but it sure seemed like it.
Raiders kicker Daniel Carlson booms another touchback so the Dolphins begin the drive with 19 seconds remaining at their own 25 yard line. Ryan Fitzpatrick under pressure, and with a Raider defender literally twisting his facemask to the point where Fitzpatrick can no longer even see the receiver as he’s now looking skyward lets a deep floater to the left sideline to a waiting WR Mack Hollins at the 41 yard line of LV who this time makes the catch and then is pushed out out of bounds. The aforementioned facemask, which is a 15 yard personal foul moves the ball from the LV 41 to the LV 26 yard line. The penalty was actually called as a “Roughing the Passer”, either way, 15 yards. The Dolphins run one play in which QB Ryan Fitzpatrick rolls right and then throws out of bounds which then stops the clock at 6 seconds remaining. Then enters Mr. Clutch, K Jason Sanders who promptly nails the 44 yard field goal to give the Dolphins the lead at 26-25 and once the ball goes through the uprights, a scant 1 second remains. BTW, Dolphins tackle Julie’n Davenport reported as an eligible receiver on the last Fitzpatrick throw out of bounds. Thought you should all know that.
So the Dolphins K Jason Sanders pooches the kick and there’s a couple of laterals and then a fumble and Dolphins safety and ST’s ace Clayton Fejedelem recovers it and that’s the ballgame! DOLPHINS WIN! DOLPHINS WIN!!!
OK, so let’s push aside for a moment that we are 10-5, and have one more game to win in order to make the playoffs in 2020. What’s the deal with Tua???? I’m not sugarcoating anything, I’m disappointed that the Head Coach feels the need to yank him from the game because he’s ineffective. It’s very disturbing to me. It’s the right call, HC Brian Flores has the pulse of this team like no other, he’s been masterful at handling the roster. Is it Chan Gailey? Is he not figuring out how to make this kid succeed? Just one observation, how many fucking times are we going to play action and roll left and find a defender right fucking there within 3 yards of where he’s rolling to? YA THINK YA MIGHT WANNA SCRAP THAT CHAN??? O Rob will just say Tua doesn’t have it, and I’m actually starting to have my doubts as well. QB’s develop at different speeds, there’s no question. First off, don’t try to sell me on this Wood/Stock Tua/Fitz crap. David Woodley was an 8th RD pick dammit, not the #5 pick! Yes, I also understand that the great Aaron Rodgers sat for 3 years, but that was a different era.
If you look around the NFL, there are all kinds of weird QB situations. Carson Wentz has fallen from grace just 4 years into his career. He was playing great football but injuries have sidelined him too often. His replacement, rookie Jalen Hurts has 6 TD’s in 2 starts, 5 passing and 1 rushing. Mitch Trubisky is like a phoenix rising in Chicago. Left for dead and replaced by Professor Lou’s favorite QB Nick Foles, is now back at the reins and leading the Bears to an improbable playoff run and is 5-2. Trubisky was on a path not too different from our own Ryan Tannehill was on, decent QB who can get the job done if he has a good enough cast around him. Is that what Tua is now? Is that what he’s going to be?
I don’t have the answers, but to me it’s disappointing. Simple as that. Furthermore, and I expect flak from this, I don’t want to fucking hear that Tua is fine with being pulled and that he roots for Ryan Fitzpatrick. I don’t! I want him to burn inside with the desire to be better and to claim that position, I want him to be be the alpha hippo and bite Fitzpatrick’s tail off and then turn around and spin his own feces and cover Fitzpatrick! I love Ryan Fitzpatrick, I really do, he’s fun, but I want Tua to man up and take the reins and never look back. If he doesn’t do this soon, I fear he may never be “The Guy”. That doesn’t mean I’m right, but it’s going to be how I feel. Oh, this doesn’t mean Rob is right either, so pipe down there big guy!
Finsmob Unleashed 
So how do we stop Henry from running for 200 yards against us with Tannehill running the play action on us all afternoon?
Load the box to stop Henry, make Tanny beat us, get a couple of INTs.
have the luxury of being able to play man coverage across the board, so I think our strength on D plays perfect into what the Titans like to do.
*We*
Someone owes someone a beer
Not sure how that one plays out so I’ll say cheers lol
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Cheers 🍻
Actually since we play a lot of man coverage we match up pretty well against them
Also it was good Packers beat Titans because now Titans have to beat the Texans next week to win the division so that should sow up the 3rd spot in the draft
I guess first we need to figure out how to contain Allen and stop him from throwing for over 400 yards and 4 TD’s against us again first huh?
How do we keep up on offense to make it competitive when Flo is starting Tua and he has yet proven than he can throw more than 2 TD’s in a game.
Pressure. We are much better at rushing the passer than earlier in the year
Fingers crossed we get Lawson back. We missed him against the Raiders.
Also X on Diggs
How do we stop Allen? I think the answer is pretty simple. Anyone have Tanya Harding’s phone #? I hear her husband knows a guy…
I don’t think Wilson is 2nd best by a long shot. Maybe better than Fields but Trask and Jones are still better
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Yeah, I didn’t say I agree with their assessment. lol I’m thinking more:
Lawrence
Trask
Wilson
Fields
Jones
Lance
I have Fields ahead of Jones only because of his mobility. I do think Jones is the better QB but history has shown us teams like shiny Ferrari’s. People shouldn’t compare him to Haskins, Fields is fast! Hate to say it, but I could see the Pats snagging Jones.
I don’t see Haskins and Fields being anything alike and Fields has a much bigger body of work than Haskins did
I’m not even looking at QBs this offseason
Trash looked good when I saw him play
I haven’t really watched much of the others besides Lawrence
Stop Tenn by making them play from behind don’t let them run it down our throats make Tannehill throw a lot and then sack him and pick him off.
I would rather play the colts than the Titans
But first….
Let’s crush the Bills!
I’m not defensive minded but would playing like a 3-5-3 with the 5th LB being a rover/spy whose sole responsibility is Henry? Switch it up between several players like Baker and maybe Brandon Jones, etc. To bad we lost Roberts. I like the way he attacks downhill.
Current forecast for Buffalo on Sunday at 1pm ET is 32 degrees with 30% chance of precipitation.
Was this weekend the best weekend for Dolphins fans that you can remember?
Not only did the Browns, Colts and Titans lose increasing the likelihood that we will make the playoffs
But the jests won solidifying the 2nd pick in the draft….lol
And the Texans lost moving us up in the draft
And most of all….and I can’t say this enough “WTF! How did we win that game on Saturday!!!!”
You know, it was MAGIC!
You can tell right before this happened, the Raiders fans in this house were talking so much trash
Damn! That is exactly how I felt!!!!!!!!!! LMAO
We make the playoffs if ONE of these things happen next week:
• Dolphins beat the Bills
• Browns lose to the Steelers
• Colts lose to the Jags
• Ravens lose to the Bengals
AP All American teams announced:
Alabama has 6 first team selections, 5 on offense!!!
QB Jones
WR Smith
RB Harris
OT Leatherwood
Center Dickerson
Surtain is only defensive player on first team.
This can elevate Jones’ value it would seem. But no matter what, Notre Dame is gonna have to score 40+ points just to be in the game. lol
On defense Miami and Buffalo are fairly even in yards allowed (rushing and passing)
On offense they are fairly even in rushing yardage
BIG difference is the passing yards where Buffalo is #3
While defensive yardage is similar we give up 11 pts per game LESS so our D doesn’t break like theirs does.
Key to game is HEALTH: must have Lawson ready to go and our DBs have to have a great game.
On offense it would be great to have Kindley back for the run game on that right side of the line with Hunt.
Even if Houston loses, don’t get too attached to that #3 pick . Cav and I were talking #4 last night but the weekend’s results flipped Houston’s SOS to lower than Atlanta’s….. and thus our pick to #3.
But their SOS’s are still real close and can flip again next weekend even if both lose. All depends on the games of every team they’ve played this season.
David
You missed the point I was making. 2 of your 3 WRs you listed are never playing…..
Fins need WRs that aren’t 5’6″ and suit up every week.
Yes, injuries happen, but it seems some guys will always be hurt…..
Washington cuts Haskins.
WOW. Another team that will be looking for a QB in the draft!
Grant out with a high ankle sprain
dang,
https://www.nfl.com/news/washington-football-team-releases-qb-dwayne-haskins
beer
Grant likely out with high ankle sprain
Beer 🍺 to PP
So glad we didn’t take Haskins, I was never on his band wagon
Maybe Miami can get WAS to trade them Chase Young and next year’s 1st for the 3rd pick this year….
Watch the Pets pick up Haskins
I am joking he doesn’t fit the Bellicheck type
Beer to PP happens very fast, I’ve done it many times
What are you sayin’…?
When you drink beer you pee a lot, not a long time between drinking and peeing
I read it and didn’t get. Phel asked “what?”, you responded, I still didn’t get it. I sat there and thought “huh, I guess I just won’t get it”, then I read it again…still didn’t get it. Just read it again, now I get it.
LOL!
My problem was I always read ‘PP’ as ‘Phelon’…
I didn’t get it until the third time i read Mike’s explanation so don’t feel bad.
Crunching numbers on SOS between Houston and Atlanta …
Looking for games that would increase SOS compared to the other team.
1. Division games mean that if both lose or win it won’t impact SOS
2. Cancel out teams that both have played because it impacts them the same
3. of the remaining teams on each list, only 1 possible win when two of them are playing each other
Atlanta is guaranteed 1 win increase, with 2 variable games, and 1 head to head
Houston is guaranteed 2 wins, with 2 variable games (both NE), and the 1 head to head
The head to head from their games-lists is LAC (Atl) vs KC (Hou).
It would be nice if that LAC-KC game won’t change SOS …so
1. Buff over NE tonight helps us out in a potential draft order tie breaker 🙂 That means the only variable game left is NE vs NYJ. (NE over Jets means Hou has 3 win increase Before KC/LAC)
2. Seattle over 49ers AND Dallas over NYG are Atl’s 2 variable games before the KC/LAC
Cheering instructions to lock in SOS tie break for #3/#4 pick BEFORE KC/LAC play:
NE to lose last 2 games, Seattle and Dallas wins … then a KC win should mean identical SOS (lol)
If only one of (Buff over NE, Jets over NE, Sea over 49ers, Dallas over NYG) does not happen we would have to rely on LAC to beat KC … and none of us want that. whew. I ate numbers for lunch.
Those are some serious numbers crunched, but overall you thinking we look good for #3 or not? Rooting for the Chargers to beat KC doesn’t sound good…. but the Chiefs could be mailing it in.
“NE to lose last 2 games, Seattle and Dallas wins … then a KC win should mean identical SOS (lol)” would make for one hell of a coin toss. Should make SportsCenter.
The only reason I would ever consider cheering for Pats these last two games is to drop their first pick. BUT a 6-10 season for NE ? We could fill a tanker with their fans tears.
OR make it simple and just have Atlanta beat TB and Tenn beat Houston. 🙂
TB is locked at 5th or 6th seed to play either Seattle or Wash…
Tenn got embarassed and can clinch division with win over Houston.
We are Falcons fans now…. that’s easy math indeed. Tanny fans too. 🙂
As a guy who loves to do this stuff and who respects your intellect enough to believe you did it right, much respect and kudos. I wasn’t going to do it, lol.
I think we’ll have to play Buffalo in round one in most scenarios. Only a Cincy victory over Ravens and/or Jax upset of Indy takes us off this trajectory.
So below lets “assume” Ravens beat Cincy. (Balt 11-5)
Also, bet the house on Indy crushing Jax. Indy (11-5)
1a. we clinch a spot with Pittsburgh (13-3) win over Cleveland (10-6), then
1b. we beat Buffalo (12-4, 3rd seed) Miami 11-5, 6th seed. (Indy is 7th)
Buffalo (3rd) vs Miami (6th)
1c. we lose to Buffalo (13-3, 2nd seed cuz they beat Pitts head to head), Miami 10-6, 7th seed.
Buffalo (2nd) vs Miami (7th)
2a. we clinch a spot with Pittsburgh (13-3) win over Cleveland (10-6), then
2b. Cincy beats Ravens, Buffalo beats Miami. Buff 2nd seed, Miami is 6th seed and plays Pitts
2c. Cincy beats Ravens, Miami beats Buffalo. Buffalo 3rd seed, Miami 5th seed and plays Tenn.
If Ravens win, there is not a scenario where we make the playoffs and NOT play Buffalo for a second week in a row without Jax also upsetting Indy.
I’d rather play Pittsburgh or Tenn then play the same team back to back.
Forgot to add… what if Cleveland beats Pittsburgh? Well, we MUST beat Buffalo.
In that scenario Buffalo is #2 seed, Miami #5 … but it doesn’t allow us to lose and still get in without Ravens losing also. Come on Cincy!
I can see Haskins getting a second chance elsewhere and making the best of it
I don’t think his nfl story is over
Someone will pick him up but I don’t see him ever amount to anything
He’s a turnover machine who just got cut by a franchise called “The Football Team”…not sure there is much lower to go, lol.
I guess there he could always be a backup on the New York ‘sort of football team’ Jest.
“Cheering instructions to lock in SOS tie break for #3/#4 pick BEFORE KC/LAC play:
NE to lose last 2 games, Seattle and Dallas wins … then a KC win should mean identical SOS (lol)”
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Dallas has a good chance to beat the Giants, Seattle has an excellent chance to beat the Niners, and NE will lose tonight to the Bills. Then we just need the Jest to beat the Pets next week.
KC has the #1 seed locked up, so they may rest starters against the Chargers…
That means KC starters would have nearly a full 3 weeks between games without playing. I can see maybe sitting people in 4th QTR, then rest in bye week. Or rest the guys that are banged up.
Yeah, that is what I can see happening. A few banged up guys getting the whole game off and some of the key starters getting pulled in the 2nd half. I can’t recall how Reid approaches week 17s with nothing to play for, but I’d be surprised to see Hill or Mahomes out there late in the 4th.
Wait, the Texans played NE and Atlanta didn’t, so why are we cheering for NE to lose?
nvmd, I got confused. We want the Texans to have a weaker SOS. Doh!
“I know I’m late but best no look pass of all time.”
— Mahomes on the Facemask Chuck
Sorry — meant for below. Doesn’t matter if I reset the board….. once hit reply that’s where it goes.
Yeah, we really need the Falcons to beat the Bucs otherwise the odds are slim we get another weekend where 5 games all fall our way.
As long as the Titans don’t screw us, #4 is still a great pick, lol.
On those draft pick value charts, the difference between #4 and #3 is equivalent to a top 1/3 3rd round pick in the 70s range… I feel greedy lol. When the season began I doubt many of us thought this pick had a chance to be top 5.
Early in the year, I was happy thinking it would be top 10, then as the season progressed it really started to play out well for us. Top 5 is amazing, but I’m with ya, let’s get that #3, lol.
Haskins had 9 interceptions in 22 games at Ohio state
In the pros he had 14 in 16 games
Night and day
I’ve seen scouts say you need an usually rely on accuracy to make the transition from college to the pros
In Haskins case – I guess not
I hope he finds his way though and signs with a team that had their QB in place so he can sit behind a veteran without any pressure
I was thinking of Winston when I said Haskins was a turnover machine. I am really not very sharp today.
But he is also
“I know I’m late but best no look pass of all time.”
— Mahomes on the Facemask Chuck
Thanks to all you guys crunching the numbers! Appreciate all the draft and playoff scenarios
Happy Kwanzaa to those who celebrate!
Andrew Van Ginkel is rated 14th among edge players this season by PFF.
Glad we didn’t sleep on that pick. 🙂
That’s crazy. I thought he was doing well, didn’t realize he’s rated that high
Ha,ha…got it.
I’m not really one of those who looks for a favorable matchup in the last game or playoffs.
I say bring anyone and we need to beat them. Period, end of drama and story.
If you’re the best, prove it.
Otherwise, STFU.
I think we should give BUF a better fight than the first game. We were right in that game and we gave up over 500 yards of offense.
We should Mike E. That was almost a season ago…lol.
I expect us to be better. Expectations are being set.
bailbondmike says:
December 28, 2020 at 10:30 am
D, what’s up with taking Barmore that high? He is stout and really good but has not been disruptive at all this year. If I take a DT that high, I would want a disruptive monster like Donald. Two sites I have looked at have him at DT2 and one of them has him going mid to late 2nd round. You know your SEC guys like nobodies business so I will take your word for it but I don’t see him going any earlier than late 1st.
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Barmore isn’t really a straight DT, he is a DE/DT hybrid like out read likes or i should say fits us. I dont think he has reached his potential, but he will be a good 1-Tech, 5-Tech hybrid much like Wilkins and Davis. Having all three of those guys on the field at the same time would crush a OL. Im big on DT’s, and yeah i probably would trade back from 3 and take him, but i think you are going to have to go upper mid first to get him.
Like i said before, if its a top 5 pick id probably trade back to like 8-12ish and take him there i think he is worth that pick. Pitts outside the top 5 i think id stay put and take him if someone else doesn’t get him first. Id love Waddle, we could use a guy who takes the top off the defense, but the more i think about the players we have at WR, i think we could do better with Pitts and a guy like Toney more.Harris is almost becoming a must have for me, im leaning toward him still being there with our first second round which seems like its going to be damn near a low first at this point.
If the stars align, ideally i would like to get Pitts, Barmore, then Harris and Toney. Those guys i think would be amazing additions to what we are building and how we are building it.
I don’t reallly trust our WRs any more. Where are they, in fact? I want a Jerry Rice who was there every fucking year.
Or anybody who is there every year.
Problem is you cant evaluate that. Would be nice to know i take this guy and year maybe not a top speed guy, or top contested guy, but he is good and will be there every game. That probably would have me selecting them over one of the others, but just no way to predict it.
Here’s a headline from Steelerswire that should make us nervous — “Should the Steelers rest their starters vs the Browns?”
Same time…… whatever reasons to do that go for the Bills as well. And would we ever like them to rest for the playoffs. How much is #2 versus #3 worth?
I still have a hard time believing teams will give up an opportunity to stay home for the divisional round. Maybe I’m wrong and no fans makes teams consider things differently. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out.
If the flipping Steelers had just lost yesterday, they’d need to play their starters and the Bills wouldn’t have a reason to.
Actually I think the Steelers clinched yesterday no matter what since the Browns lost. sigh
Point i ws making about Fields is that Fields just like Haskins looks great int he OU system, but i dont think he is anymore successful than any of the other ones that have come before him. The absolute best QB that OSU has had in past decade was Terrell Pryor, and he could do it, but just go back to all the hype over all the different OSU QB’s in the past decade maybe even 2, and tell me how many of them were successful, and how many of them had to switch positions to get on the field. They dont turn out good QB prospects.
Any….Pryor was successful?
Pryor hasnt been.
He ended up being an okay WR for a couple years
So none.
VanGinkle to me always reminded me of Clay Matthews. Playing like the young version of Matthews right now too.
Congrats to ER for advancing to FMU FFB Final where he will meet either Mike E , currently up by 22.7 with Diggs left or Piggy who has Singletary and Josh Allen going tonight … good luck to all
So if Allen throws a 10 yd TD pass to Diggs, which FFB player gets more points?
Diggs 1pt every 10 yds plus 1 pt per catch, and 6 for TD .. QB 1 pt every 25 yds and 4 pts Td. << changing THAT next year , did not realize: it until now
But if Allen throws a 10 Yd TD to Singletary piggy gets both ends of the equation
Yeah pretty much 🤡
Andy Reid LIKELY to rest starters this week according to NFLN
Sorry, I’m just not one of those who try to best the system.
Beat whatever is put forth within the system and if you want to change it, position yourself to change it, if that’s available.
Otherwise, STFU, and play the cards you’re dealt. Sometimes you get shitty cards. Deal with it. Life’s a bitch! LOL!
Personally I’d be fine with 2 Bills losses, then I would be saying we finished season Tied for the division lead…
YES THIS^^
I could argue with their fans that they only won because of SOS which they couldn’t even control.
Anyone: “Hey Rock! you want to play FF this year?”
Rock:
It is too much like work.
Agreed…unless you take the Herd and Piggy approach.
The Piggy approach is forget ya have a team and leave the Commish to run it 🤡🤔
Herd manages her ass off
LMAO….sounds like Piggy?
This guy always makes me think of tobacco for some reason. LOL
Reminds me of walkers old avi
of course if that elbow was a little straighter……………
Lost me there
Heil…?
Toba – For a second I thought you were saying Diggsy was in our FF league. Remember good ole Diggs?
I do , I think of him every time I Don my Iowa hoodie
There ya go! Miss that dude, he was cool
Ironically, I believe last time I saw him he was talking of going hunting up here about 6 hrs east of me
Oh my….a Walker presence.
He’s more than welcome to show here and say hello
Agreed. Never knew what it was all about and couldn’t remember anyway.
Apparently, he pissed some people off and some have issues with him.. I have no idea.
Just saw the icon and recognized it.
Church of the SubGenius
These guys are saying Tua is week because he isn’t pitching a public fit for being benched!? Are they for real?
I have two questions;
1. Why would a fan base choose the name of a criminal organization as their nickname?
2. Why would the Mafia ALLOW Bills fans to get away with sullying their name? 😉
Speaking of pork forgetfulness
I forgot that the college playoffs were starting
I just saw this pot
Can some one tell me if I’m crazy or I forgot the way football is played
I’ve never heard of benching a star player bc you such so bad.
Isn’t that like forfeiting?
I thought this was a thing teams did to avoid players getting hurt for a playoff run, not to avoid getting hurt for the off-season
Is this a thing now?
Isn’t Watson coming off an injury and may not be fully healed?
Is he?
I know he left the game yesterday but he came back after he went out
LOL, same guy
Anyone ever do any of those meal delivery services line “freshly”
I know a guy who does hello fresh and a woman at work uses some meal service, not sure which one. The dude loves it, he posts pictures of his meals all the time
D:
Are you the one who has a friend in Ashland, Ky? Any chance this is him? 😂😂
LMFAO…that’s the best snowblower i’ve ever seen!
OK Gals and Guys. All these playoff scenarios have forgotten ONE POSSIBILITY.
GIVE UP?????
It’s the possibility of A TIE GAME!!!!!
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WAY BACK before our first game of the regular season I predicted that Miami would go 9-6-1 and win the 7th and final playoff spot. (I just could NOT decide if we’d go 9-7 or 10-6 so I split the difference and predicted 9-6-1 for the Phins.) WELL here we are at 10-5 so all that proves was that I WAS NOT OPTIMISTIC ENOUGH!!!
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ANYWAY, you scenario guys, WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR PLAYOFF CHANCES IF WE TIE BUFFALO???
A tie is the same as a loss for us against everyone except for the Titans. We’d need one of those guys to lose to get in.
With the Titans it’s a negligible difference. We’d jump them if they lose and we tie, where as we be behind them if we both lose.
Thanks, Kong!
Watching Jaws for the first time. (again)
RON JAWORSKI?
The Bob Dobbs brought back by Mike E
Here lies the body of Mary Lee
Died at the age of 103
for 15 years she kept her virginity
not a bad record cor this vicinity
Cam hit his WR on the face mask must have been a bad throw 😉
I can’t root for the Pets. I just can’t do it
Right? lol
Hard to root for the Bills too
Root for injuries? Is that wrong?
No, actually it is expected. GO ACL!
I’d just like to see the Bills offense struggle…
you know the thing about a shark, he’s got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a dolls eyes……
HOLY CRAP don’t waste all those drops tonight! Save them for next week
👍👍😊
Another terrible throw by the QB
K , good to know I’m not alone… can’t get behind Anyone except Mr Injury Bug
😃
Can’t even watch the game and don’t care.
Yeah, I was enjoying watching Jaws more. I think I will switch back.
I can’t watch this game anymore. The Pets are horrible so at least there is that
BILL BELICHEAT continues to be exposed as a losing coach in the NFL minus Brady.
The Bills should really be careful not to get players injured next week.
They can win at home or on the road in the 2nd round, because they are so good, they should no worry about seeding. 😉
DID ALL OF YOU CATCH that graphic on Josh Allen which said he had the LOWEST COMPLETION RATE of any NFL starting quarterback in each of his first two years??
HELL, by the 2-year point, a certain “EXPERT” from Ocala would have run him out of the league!!!
BUT Buffalo’s management had more patience. SO, here we are, in his 3rd year as a starter, Josh Allen has completed almost 69% of his passes and has led his team to first place in the AFC East.
I’m REAL SURE that TUA will get at least 3 years in Miami to show us what he’s got, whether a certain critic likes it or not.
By the way, a certain Hall of Fame QB named “ELWAY” was riding the bench down the stretch of his first season in Denver. He completed 47% of his passes for just 7 touchdowns before being assigned guard duty to the bench. I remember rumors of his returning to the Yankees farm system as the NFL season ended.
Yes, a few people were highly impatient way back in 1983 also.
bailbondmike says:
December 27, 2020 at 9:01 pm
M13, I do the draft simulator on “thedraftnetwork”. I know where I get some players will not be reality but believe that site is close in evaluation and player ranking.
Anyway, in reality, I think we would need to take Najee in the 1st like you did as I don’t think he would last. Rethinking I would go:
1a WR Devonta Smith
1b RB Najee Harris
2a WR Kadarius Toney
2b OC/IOL Dickerson or Myers
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I do like “The Draft Network”… Kyle Crabbs and Joe Marino both know me, and I respect their takes. Absolutely AGREED that Najee Harris will go earlier than most think, and especially now that he’s a consensus AP All-American: he will NOT be slept on.
I LIKE your draft above!
BBMike, I’ve seen you putting in the work to the 2021 NFL Draft for months now, Bro. I admire your tenacity, your love of the game, and your eye for talent. #RESPECT!
At the half it’s :Mike 145.7 piggy 129.92 in the semi final to face ER
Everyone knows Pork always comes through
We also know where it comes through
forget about the Bills game guys. Clemson v Notre Dame is on.
Ross is having a good game and Etiene just had a big run
Actually it’s the 2019 fiesta bowl….the Tee Higgins catch just gave it away…but it’s like watching prospects now….lol
Nice 🤣
I wish I knew the internal thinking of this current organization… but then again, I’m glad it’s opaque to any and ALL.
Would Penei Sewell be a surprise pick for us… or are we still about getting the ball out within 2.x seconds?
Just like one can’t reinvent the wheel, the more time a QB has to throw the ball, the better his chances… and DBs can’t cover receivers forever on any given play.
Could Sewell additionally help our running game? Hmmmm…
These are my early, pre-Draft thoughts…
Hope a game changer falls to us at pick 32
Team Picks
6: R1 P6 LB Micah Parsons – Penn State
21: R1 P21 WR Jaylen Waddle – Alabama
38: R2 P6 G Alijah Vera-Tucker – USC
53: R2 P21 EDGE Aidan Hutchinson – Michigan
84: R3 P20 RB Kenneth Gainwell – Memphis
123: R4 P21 S Paris Ford – Pittsburgh
got a 1st next year too
BOOM! Better still!
I like! Just not sure we need Micah Parsons, though, in this Defense we use. Nevertheless, I LIKE!
Rock
What is the thinking of the Guard pick in the 2nd? Is that intended to be a guy who can play center?
Center / Guard yes.
and I will invest in the O line every draft! It all starts with the big uglies.
plus he was BPA
I’m lost mf13ss. You are surprised by the current administration and their decisions?
Just trying to understand.
No, sir… NOT surprised by the current administration and their decisions (I’m talking about our Phins, and I won’t call them a ‘regime’).
It’s been exceptionally WISE for our Phins administration to be non-transparent… it keeps EVERYBODY guessing, man. It’s certainly worked in our favor, to be sure.
You, of course, realize that you substituted the word ‘administration’ for my word ‘organization’, right? It’s all good, though.
mf13ss, i don’t get the org v ass distinction you are trying to make. Who cares?
Please, enlighten me, as i am always will8ng to kearn.
Thanks.
Upgrade a strength! WHAT!? Who would do that. LOL
I thought about this earlier on my ride home from work… what if we selected a QB @ R1P3? Can you imagine the venom Phins Nation would give Chris Grier?
Yes, I BELIEVE in Tua! But could one imagine ‘upgrading a strength’ in this fashion? That would really hurt our fan-base!
As long as we keep Orob happy 🤷🏻🤡
Talk about steady improvement
Josh Allen has added 10 TDs and 1000 passing yards each year since since his rookie season
He had barely over 2000 yards as a rookie with 10 TDs and 12 int
Year 2: 3000 yards and 20 tds
Year 3 entering tonight: 30 tds and 4000 yards
I doubt he hits 40 tds and 5000 yards next year but his stats serve as a reminder to be patient with QBs
The Bills are finally back… that team *scares* the crap out of me. Best they’ve been since the Jim Kelly/Thurman Thomas/Andre Reed days… and their Defense is legit (minus a Bruce Smith).
And sadly? A LOT of their staff is comprised of former Dolphins staff.
We are 2-4 when we receive the opening kickoff.
We are 8-1 when we kickoff to start the game.
Our only loss when kicking off the start the game was to the Bills in week 2.
Our two wins when receiving were against the Jags and Cards.
And now you know…the rest of the story.
Nice!!😊
Fuck it!
Rub NE’s nose in it!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think we can safely congratulate Mike E on getting to Finals over Piggy.
Good luck to both ER and Mike E
He’s gonna need it!
I did a deep dive into the SOS numbers using the calculation of wins vs games played. If I’ve got my numbers right, they say that as long as the Texans lose in week 17 they will have a weaker SOS and should retain the #3 spot no matter what happens.
SOS equation is: (wins/total games=SOS)
The NFL calculates all wins for 16 opponent games including twice for divisional opponents. So after 16 games the total # of opponents games will be 256. A tie removes 1 game from the total games column because it is neither a win or a loss, so instead of 256, it will be 255.
I totaled the Falcons opponents wins and the Texans opponents wins through 15 games.
Atlanta opponents: 132 wins
Texans opponents: 129 wins (The Bengals also have a tie, so the Texans have 1 less total game)
After calculating game outcomes these are the the potential additions to opponent win totals (I’ll show how I arrived at these numbers):
Atlanta: 8-10 wins
Texans: 8-10 wins
Worst case scenario is Atlanta opponents gets 8 wins and the Texans opponents get 10 wins. This would be the worst case scenario final tallies:
Atlanta opponents: 140 wins out of 256 games .546 (SOS)
Texans opponents: 139 wins out of 255 games .545 (SOS)
Long story short – if the Texans lose we have the #3 pick.
(assuming my numbers are right)
To arrive at a potential 8-10 wins per team’s opponents:
Both teams have 16 opponents so we start with potentially 16 wins:
Atlanta
Carolina plays N.O
—Both these teams played ATL twice, one team will lose, one win. They count twice.
+2 wins and 2 losses guaranteed
GB plays Chicago
Denver plays Vegas
KC plays Chargers
Detroit plays Minny
—All these teams played Atlanta once, 4 will lose, 4 win.
+4 wins and 4 losses guaranteed
Tampa plays Atlanta
+2 wins guaranteed
Seattle plays Niners
Dallas plays Giants
—Seattle and Dallas played Atlanta. These games are the only variable games.
both games add either 1 win or 1 loss.
So totaling up, we have 8 guaranteed wins, 4 guaranteed losses and 2 either way (so 8-10 wins added to the Atlanta total.
*Correction on the last bit (there are 6 guaranteed losses)*
Houston
Indy plays Jax
—Both these teams played Houston twice, one team will lose, one win. They count twice.
+2 wins and 2 losses guaranteed
GB plays Chicago
Cincy plays Baltimore
Detroit plays Minny
Clev plays Pitt
—All these teams played Houston once, 4 will lose, 4 win.
+4 wins and 4 losses guaranteed
Tenn plays Houston
+2 wins guaranteed
KC plays Chargers
N.E. plays the Jets
—KC and N.E. played Houston. These games are the only variable games.
both games add either 1 win or 1 loss.
So totaling up, we have 8 guaranteed wins, 6 guaranteed losses and 2 either way (so 8-10 wins added to the Houston total.
The short version of all that is – assuming both ATL and HOU lose – we have the #3 pick no matter what else happens:
The lowest SOS Atlanta can hope for is .546
The highest SOS Houston can get is .545
All the data is in the posts if anyone cares to put the work in and check the numbers. (You would have to confirm current win totals and the schedules manually which took me about an hour, lol.)
somebody besides Me is up at 4 am? lol
i always get up at 4 because thats the time that the daily stock prices in my portfolio update,
i like watching the daily gap ups, i have total outperformers
doing awesome this year, stocks and crypto are kicking it! Bitcoin is close to $27,000 now
It’s the 1 o’clock hour out here, still a late or early hour though no matter how you slice it, lol.
ah yea, you are on the west coast,
east coasters have to open up the nation everyday , while you westerners are sleeping or coming in from the bars, must be nice, lol
One other thing. I assume the NFL rounds decimals, but I did not calculate it that way just in case. I just dropped numbers after the 3rd place.
If you round to the 3rd decimal, it increases Atlanta’s SOS from .546 to .547. Houston stays at .545.
Minor, but important to note for clarity.
OK, I decided to come up with a silly early morning scenario. If the Titans beat the Texans and we get the #3 pick, and then we end up playing the Titans in the 2nd RD because they won, and they beat us, are you happy about the outcome?
2nd year under Flores and we make the playoffs and win a game before getting knocked out? Heck yeah, I’d be happy.
Yes?
Ape – I analyzed your analysis and came to the conclusion that you need to drink more and think less.
Sounds good. I’ll do a quick study on the SOA (strength of alcohol) content of various concoctions and make a decision on which one to drink…
Perfect
Cav – So when did you sleep last night? You were posting at 1 AM, 3 AM, and before 5 AM.
I’ve been up all night. I probably won’t get to bed until 8 or so.
Utes…
I’m not familiar with that one
My Cousin Vinny….Joe Pesci as a NY lawyer in a southern courtroom trying to talk about “youths.” Utes…
Oh, LOL, yeah. Great movie.
Fred Gwynn “The two whats?”
The rest of my silly morning scenario was the Titans losing, and the Colts winning, our pick moving down the draft board to 5 or worse. We win RD 1 in the playoffs and then play the Colts and beat them.
I’d take the AFC Championship game if we knew that is what would happen. It’s been almost 30 years since our last one.
Herdfan says:
December 28, 2020 at 7:47 pm
D:
Are you the one who has a friend in Ashland, Ky? Any chance this is him? 😂😂
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Yeah thats me, but not thats not them lol.
Mike, the team and Flores has already exceeded expectations. but the players and coaches would like to win a super bowl
we cant be a favorite to win a SB< not yet. however, ANY playoff loss would not set well with Me, or the team. They want, what i want, a SB title
i would think the Fins can seriously win a SB as soon as next year, but def before 2025 IMO
as the team raises their level of play, expectations will rise also
i guess the nation decided not to buy any stocks till next year, lol and dump the gains today to pay MORE taxes, SMH
i was always taught if you had nice gains, sell em after the new years to avoid taxes for another year
wow this sux on my portfolio, damn millenials , they are important to the market, but dont understand tax strategy
Someone taught you wrong then. It defers taxes, it doesn’t eliminate them. You still own on what you make (unless you realize losses later in the year, but would you rather have a loss or pay taxes on a gain? No brainer IMO.
oh, I misread that. You said avoid them for another year. Which IS deferring them. Sorry, my reading comprehension is off this morning I guess.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/why-the-dolphins-should-stick-with-ryan-fitzpatrick-over-tua-tagovailoa-ahead-of-the-playoffs/
I’m just going to leave this here and let you guys argue with Orob. LOL
I was listening to WQAM, Joe Rose show and he had Michael Lombardi, former NE Patriots Asst and now NFL Analyst, and he also said the Dolphins should play Fitzgerald next week and into the playoffs if they get in.
I tend to agree. I think we have a better chance to win with Fitz than Tua so it would seem to be the smart thing to do. Tua’s fragile ego be damned if he is hurt by it. BUCK UP AND TAKE IT TUA!
Lombardi never really liked Tua and has been working the rounds to tell the sports world about it
And Lombardi never coached either. He was actually the “assistant to the coaching staff” in New England beginning in 2014 – 2016
Basically he got Belicheats coffee and got to put New England on his resume for the rest of his life
Before New England he was GM and VP for the Browns form 2013-2014. In that time the browns could not crack .500 and drafted Johnny Manziel
Before that he was an executive for the Raiders form 1998-2007. Most of that time the raiders were one of the worst franchises in football. 2001 and 2002 were good years for the raiders – after 2002, the raiders struggled to win 5 games a season
Lombardi is the sort of mediocre executive that floats around the league. To cap his career he took a meaningless title with a good team (the Patriots) that he did nothing to improve – and now he is introduced as a former executive to the Patriots to inflate his resume
He kind of reminds me of a guy like Mike Tannebaum
The NFLs is actually full of executives like this that float around and never really build the strong teams
Maybe I am crazy, but I am inclined not to take the guy who drafted Johnny Manziel and DeMarcus Russell seriously about QB simply bc he knows whether Belicheat wants 1 or 2 sugars with his coffee
I don’t think Tua has a fragile ego, nothing he’s done leads me to believe that. I’m not so sure we have a better chance to win with Fitz either. Everyone is all high on Fitz now but keep in mind the transition from Fitzmagic to Fitztragic happens in a flash, and then it’s all over. The one reason over all others is that I think right now that maybe Fitz is the choice is this offense is designed more for Fitz than Tua. Fitz did have a healthy Parker and Gesicki and even healthy RB’s for just about all of his starts. I still feel like I want to see Tua grow, and playing in games like this is the way to do it.
I’m sure he would handle it fine and it’s not an issue
I think Coach Flores genuinely thinks he gives us the best chance to win
I like Ryan Firzpatrick a lot. But he has thrown 8 interceptions this year. If he has one of those multiple int games in the bills game or the postseason, we will lose the game
Tua on the other hand has struggled to move the ball downfield but has not turned the ball over
We have the best scoring defense in the nfl
We are two games removed from rushing for 200 yards
Playing the game manager (I don’t think that described Tua’s ceiling) is the smart move
If you ever up in another game like the raiders, Fitz can come off the bench and give you your surge
This is the best way to win and win now
We have two capable QBs on this team and a very good defense
We need to avoid turnovers early in the game
Both of these two QBs will just have to accept whatever gut punch they get if they are benched or pulled
I agree, and I also believe Tua can be better. We’ve seen it.
I think he can too
But I don’t think criticism directed at him for being unable to move the ball downfield so far is unfounded. He has struggled so far
But let’s not turn it into a meteor is heading straight to the earth and we are all about to die. Some of these guys need to get a grip
The way he was acting on the sideline didnt suggest he didnt completely agree with the decision and was supportive of it and Fitz. The guys has all the characteristics of a winner, and to a winner, winning is more important than pride.
What these brainiacs tell you how bad Tua is just before they discuss what the Dolphins should pick a QB at “pick number 5” in 2021
This was yesterday by the way
Lombardi won’t even mention a name he is high on for QBs in the 2021 draft
Here’s a couple of names for you Lombardi: Johnny Manziel and DeMarcus Russell
What a QB guru this dude is…
Sports radio and pregame talk thrives on knee jerk reactions
There’s a lot of hacks who are happy to say what we are doing wrong
Remember that some of these guys were saying the Nfl should punish us a year ago
This would calm fans down! 😉
Lol no way, people would flip on that. Two good young OT and we use the pick on another. I’m all for having depth but former 1st as depth or a former 2nd as depth when they are starting caliber is a waste
I would love this. Move Hunt to OG along with Flowers and Davis would be excellent depth. Our OL would be beastly
Our WRs aren’t getting separation is what this says, which usually means they don’t run good routes.