I know it’s hard to push the last game of the season out of your minds, but if you just set it aside for a bit, you can appreciate what was accomplished by our team in a very promising rebuilding season. Like Tim has said many times, the NFL season is divided into quarters. We lost the 1st quarter of the season. We finished the 1st QTR of the season 1-3 winning only against the Jacksonville Jaguars and losing 2 division games, one to the Patriots and one to the Bills. We let a game get away from us against Seattle too. Not a good start. First Quarter / 1-3
The 2nd Quarter of the season is where we started to turn some heads. We blew out and dismantled the SF 49ers in their house. We pummeled Niners QB Jimmy Garopplo sacking him 5 times and turned them over 3 times for an impressive blowout 43-17 victory. 1-0. The Dolphins then cruised to an easy 24-0 win over the hapless Jets to start this quarter 2-0. The Dolphins schedule was affected by COVID-19 and thus forced us to take our BYE week 6 weeks earlier, so Week 5 it was, rather than Week 11. This schedule change ended up causing the Dolphins to make an earlier change at QB as the Tua Tagovailoa era in Miami began. In a game that really opened up the eyes of the talking heads, the Dolphins gave the LA Rams the same treatment they gave the Niners and made Jared Goff look bad. Whispers were happening that this Dolphins defense just might be for real. We turned over the Rams 4 times in an impressive win over the 5-2 Rams. So far, 3-0 this quarter. The Dolphins then faced their second 5-2 NFC team in a row in the Kyler Murray led Arizona Cardinals. It was a back and forth affair but for the first time, the Dolphins actually had to lean on their young QB and he came through to lead the Dolphins to a 4th quarter come from behind victory, 34-31. This is where we made our hay. Second Quarter/ 4-0 (5-3 overall)
The Dolphins began the 3rd quarter of the season against the 2-6 LA Chargers. This was to be the highly touted matchup of rookie QB’s Justin Herbert against Tua Tagovailoa. As it turned out, Tua had the better game by a slight margin as the Dolphins defense picked off Herbert once and sacked him twice. The Dolphins won 29-21. 1-0. The Dolphins then traveled to Mile High. The Broncos defense confused and abused QB Tua Tagovailoa and made Tua look like a rookie QB. Both RB’s Melvin Gordon ran for over 80 yards and the Dolphins for the first time brought in relief pitcher Ryan Fitzpatrick. Tua got banged up and there was no Fitzmagic this day as the Dolphins went to 6-4 losing 20-13. 1-1. A welcome relief in sight, the Dolphins traveled to NJ to play the Jets again in another relatively uncontested game. Ryan Fitzpatrick cruised the Dolphins to a 20-3 victory. 2-1. Tua returned from injury to face the Joe Burowless Bengals and the Dolphins defense picked off both Brandon Allen and Ryan Finley for a 19-7 victory. 3-1. Third Quarter / 3-1 (8-4 overall)
The Dolphins started the final quarter of the season hosting the AFC Beast Kansas City Chiefs and we sort of gave them a game, we played a lot of catchup after the Chiefs got to a 30-10 3rd quarter lead. Tua rallied the Dolphins for 17 4th QTR points but it was too little too late as the Dolphins fell 33-27. Valiant effort really, but a loss nonetheless. 0-1. The Dolphins then hosted the New England Patriots for a much needed rematch and the Dolphins were up to the task. Although we had a sluggish first half and were down 9-7, the Dolphins took control in the 2nd half outscoring the Patriots 15-3 for a well deserved win. 1-1. The Dolphins traveled to Sin City to the Las Vegas Raiders beautiful new home, Allegiant Stadium. The Dolphins offense featured Tua Tagovailoa dinking and dunking through 3 plus quarters completing 17-22 passes for just 94 yards and 1 TD. 9:47 mark of the 4th QTR HC Brian Flores pulled starting QB Tua Tagovailoa with the Dolphins trailing 16-13 and QB Ryan Fitzpatrick makes his 2nd relief appearance, his first not due to an injury. You all know the story, the Raiders went up 22-16 with just 0:19 seconds remaining which led to the Fitzmagic drive that will always be an image we can remember as his head was twisted to the point where he couldn’t see where the throw was going but was complete to WR Mack Hollins at the LV 41 yard line and then the 15 yard facemask penalty spotted the ball at the 26 yard line which set up the Jason Sanders game winning 44 yard FG. 2-1. Then the wheels went off the track against the division bully Buffalo Bills. The wounds are still fresh so I’ll spare you, we lost badly, an unfortunate embarrassing end to what was a very promising season. Fourth Quarter / 2-2. (10-6 overall)
So the Dolphins finished the season with a 10-6 record, 2nd in the AFC East. Even the most optimistic fans didn’t see this coming. I think the defense really surprised us, there were many things that despite the last game letdown, lead you to believe this team is not too far away from having a great defense. Like the great Dolphins defenses of the 1970’s, this is also a no name defense. CB Xavien Howard is likely the one player that casual NFL fans know, and maybe Kyle Van Noy because the Patriots were so visible. Our defense is young, really young, and guys that we drafted last year and this year are already cornerstones of that defense. DL Christian Wilkins drafted last year, DL Raekwon Davis drafted this year, LB Andrew Van Ginkle (last year) and to a lesser extent, DL Jason Strowbridge who was part of the rotation on the D-line. The guys we brought in in free agency solidified the defense. LB Kyle Van Noy was a great leader on the field, DE Emmanuel Ogbah had a very strong 3/4 of the season but faded out late in the season. OLB Shaq Lawson was also effective but less so than Ogbah. #55, Jerome Baker had his best season as a Miami Dolphin LB. If you give a good player better players around him, you will see his play rise with the talent around him.
This brings me to the offense. The one place where I believe all Dolphins fans should be thrilled about is the offensive line. This unit made great strides this season, comprised of mostly rookies. Rookie LT Austin Jackson started most of the year when he was healthy, and so did rookie OG’s Solomon Kindley and T/G Robert Hunt. Swingman Jesse Davis played every position but C on the O-line this season and is a keeper for his versatility and selflessness. Veteran C Ted Karras did a nice job this season but will be a free agent in 2021. Do we re-sign Karras, or Is Michael Deiter ready to man the C position, do we draft a center or do we go free agency again?
We need playmakers. We have a few guys that can be considered playmakers but one such player like DeVante Parker has once again proven he can’t be counted on for 16 games during the season. He played in parts of 14 games, but was hampered by injury and ineffective in a few. When he was healthy he was fantastic as always, but he still finished with a rather pedestrian season, 63 catches for 793 yards and 4 TD’s. Mike Gesicki is another one, and I wish I knew whether it was Gailey, Fitz or Tua or a combination of all 3 that sometimes just completely ignored him. Gesicki had a nice season with 53 catches for 703 yards and 6 TD’s but I think he can do so much more. I think he’s nearly as talented as LV TE Darren Waller who saw nearly DOUBLE the targets Gesicki got. We will be drafting WR’s in the 2021 NFL Draft, make no mistake. We need to build and give QB Tua Tagovailoa legitimate WR’s to throw to. At RB, I think Myles Gaskin is a really nice #2, like an Austin Ekeler type of player. He could be a #1 if necessary but I think we need more of a downhill runner who can push the pile and run more with more physicality. So often I saw both he and Salvon Ahmed downed by first contact.
The nice thing is the Laremy Tunsil trade has afforded us two more great picks in the 2021 NFL Draft, #3 in RD1 and #36 in RD2. We have 9 picks in all, two 1st RD picks, two 2nd RD picks and then 5 more distributed in the next 5 rounds. Building this offense is paramount to making Tua Tagovailoa a better QB. As I mentioned earlier with Jerome Baker, good players play better with better talent around them. He needs reliable receivers, a RB that can carry the load and pass block and stout OL, which I feel we’re well on our way with the O-line. Keep building that defense, AVG may be a star in the making and I really liked Elandon Roberts but I feel like he’s more of a 2 down player. A guy like Micah Parsons could really elevate this LB corps and the defense as a whole.
We have such a young nucleus on this team. I think we will add another nice veteran or two in free agency. Draft strong and just use free agency to fill in spots, not as a crutch. I think we have that formula down now. We have about $32M to spend but we’re not going to be big spenders anymore. We’re building, and I think we could be in the top 10 teams of 2021 and should be in the playoffs. In 2022, who knows? 1 year at a time, and for us Dolphins fans, 2020 was a good one!
GO DOLPHINS 2021!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
MikeE … I am reposting because it is relevant to your request about politics. 🙂
Political discussions here summarized:
first and Oink
Second I guess….sigh
I’m all in on Mikes request for no politics
I could use the escapism
Everyone bite their tongues
Excellent timing Mike
Oh, okay…killjoys…
https://www.thephinsider.com/platform/amp/2021/1/6/22217681/top-4-candidates-to-be-the-miami-dolphins-new-offensive-coordinator
I really would prefer to keep the politics OUT. I see and hear enough of that shit on every social media platform and it just frustrates the heck out of me. Football is and life is what this blog is about, and yes, politics is part of like too, but it’s just so damn ugly that I think we’re better off without it here. GO DOLPHINS!!!
very divisive
It’s a slippery slope
But we’ve managed to keep them conversations civil in the past
I think hearing other persons POV here have helped me think about things more critically
But I also have the same frustrations as you
Yesterday was a tense day. We were all reacting in real time
Today is a new day – I think we can do without politics today
Good point on that hearing other signs on it. I’d never talk in-depth politics with someone who has the view of ORob, steve or Top. Would veer away from such in the real world. Hearing where they are coming from helps me understand why.
^ “signs” = “sides”
Think what makes this board great is it goes anywhere and everywhere at times, and that includes politics. Yesterday was a most particular day but since the election the politics has otherwise been light. Same time if Pelosi grabs a .45 and holes up in the oval office with Trump as hostage….. gonna come up.
I read they want Tua to be a game manager, not a big play QB, i guess that’s why they focused on the dink and dunk offense.
Tua has the worst stats in the league for passes over 10 yards.
who knows, maybe it will work, they’d better have a great supporting cast.
i always thought the best way dink&dunk works is when you are able to stretch the field with a deep threat.
That would mean a fast rec a great OL and a QB with the arm to deliver
I think probably the best thing for us is to wait a little before we make a decision on his future
For now surround him with weapons
Then draw a judgment
If he’s not the guy, the next guy gets the weapons
Tua is good on those short passes, but playing to his strengths doesn’t have to be all one or the other.
I’ve seen enough from Tua physically this past year to know that he has what it takes to be an NFL QB, but I don’t know the level of his head and heart. I saw him regress over the year and it wasn’t because of a lack of weapons. That’s a whole different topic that I’m not focusing on. Can he get in the huddle and lead men? He seemed to be able to do so in his first couple of games and then things slowly started to decline and it looked to affect the play of the defense as well. A lot of that had to do with the coordinator. I saw the same thing happen with Sherman and Tannehill early in his career.
I’m not a huge fan of Anthony Lynn as a coordinator, but I like what Herbert had to say about him and his approach to the young QB. Make sure he’s having fun, and put him in positions to be successful. We rarely saw that consistently this year.
There’s no doubt that Tua needs weapons and we need to strengthen the o-line and upgrade the running back position. Those things will help Tua, but we definitely need someone to come in here and build this guy’s confidence and teach him how to be a successful NFL QB if that’s possible. I’m not in the building so I can only go by what I see on the field and on the sidelines and in interviews. I have concerns about his mental makeup.
The Flying Pig says:
January 7, 2021 at 12:22 pm
I think probably the best thing for us is to wait a little before we make a decision on his future
For now surround him with weapons
Then draw a judgment
If he’s not the guy, the next guy gets the weapons
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Yup.
And there is a non-nuclear option with Tua — draft a QB relatively high like in the 2nd or 3rd round and start developing. Won’t be an immediate threat to him but might be ready if becomes clear Tua is not “The Guy.”
The thing about drafting a QB in the 2nd and 3rd RD is that in some ways that turns out to be a wasted pick. We could potentially get a really good RB or WR with that pick but instead it will be a QB holding a clipboard that probably won’t amount to anything. Either we’re in with Tua or we’re not. I don’t like a half in approach, that’s sure to fail. If you believe in him, just surround him with a bunch of good skill players and let it rip.
We’ve got 5 picks in the first 3 rounds. And having a solid back-up QB is something to have no matter who the starter is.
Very aggressive Mets trade! Trading away young talent like IF’s Amed Rosario and Andres Giminez plus 2 Mets pitching prospects for SS Francisco Lindor and P Carlos Carrasco. Good short term trade but not great for the long term.
Stanger – There are always QB’s around that have actually played NFL games that will be available in FA w/o paying them a lot. I’d rather do that that spend an early pick on one. Just my preference.
Just give Hou back their 2nd rounder and Tua for Watson. Lol
And a preference is all I have as well. I’d be happy if they re-signed Fitz.
stangerx says:
January 7, 2021 at 12:43 pm
Tua is good on those short passes, but playing to his strengths doesn’t have to be all one or the other.
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Not sure what you mean however if you have both short & long pass accuracy, you wil be tougher to defend, knowing Tua struggles with the deep ball i would somewhat cramp the field on him. good DC’s make you beat them with your weaknesses as opposed to your strengths.
I was saying if he remains a short passer (which he is real good at) that doesn’t mean won’t still throw deep. And hopefully that area of his game develops. It is the big concern with him.
If he remains a short passer then he won’t be in this league as a starter. The guy needs more talent to play with and a full off season preparing with that talent and the OC, all the first team reps too. I really believe we’ll see a different QB. There’s no reason he has to be confined to short passing, he’s not a noodle arm.
Think Tua could be a greatest show on turf guy. But not too many bombs in that O either…..more open guys who do catch and run. But with that comes different receivers… which think we’ll be drafting. Then we will see.
I would like to see us trade for Carson Wentz, when he played in that superbowl year he was the reason they went all the way. i think he can get back to that level on a different/good team.
You mean Nick Foles? Wentz was hurt and OUT, as per usghe, but yeah, he’s a big guy, so you love ’em! LMAO
No way Fins would consider that $32M a year salary for oft injured damaged goods QB
“The Miami Dolphins announced this afternoon that they’ve “mutually parted ways” with defensive line coach Marion Hobby.”
LOL. You guys fall for it every time.
Stanger – Kurt Warner has some serious talent, namely one of the best RB’s in the history of the game in Marshall Faulk. I don’t recall Warner throwing only short passes. Certainly Faulk did a lot of the heavy lifting, not unlike Alvin Kamara does now for Brees, but he threw deep to Bruce, Holt and Az-Zahir Hakim too. I’ll take a Marshall Faulk for Tua, and then a couple of talented WR’s and we’re on the road to having a great offense.
Warner threw a pretty good deep ball and Tua does too. Just think that is the scheme/talent for him. Don’t see him as an Elway gunslinger, Marino just throw it or Peyton pick them apart guy. What kind of scheme were you thinking best suits his talents?
One that scores TD’s. What I’m saying is I don’t there should be any limitations in our offense. If we have 4 receivers on the field (TE included) and all are considered threats, watch this offense go. Bowden, Perry and Hollins just weren’t ready for prime time yet. No shame in that, it wasn’t expected that they would be getting the bulk of the playing time week 17. I think the QB has to have a confidence that #1 his guys can run the routes correctly and be where they’re supposed to be and also that they will make the catch. I can’t speak for Tua, but I don’t think he was playing with that confidence at all. I don’t want keep hearing the talk that Tua can only thrive in a short passing scheme, I don’t think that’s the case at all.
Heard Warner talking a few weeks ago. He said that they had to explain to him that certain Larry Fitzgerald looks meant he was open even if Warner didn’t get he was. He was a real vet QB at that point. Just saying would like to set up Tua in a situation like Warner had before. And I’m saying think Tua can be like HOF Warner. Not like I’m knocking him.
https://scontent.fewr1-6.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/136479155_1829623067195844_2064494858771081356_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=axlv-MeVXgUAX9c1UcF&_nc_ht=scontent.fewr1-6.fna&oh=b1fa8fe69557d0b635b5e3c4bb863e0c&oe=601C0260
They better vote that man in this time.
The competition is fierce, but really happy he’s a finalist.
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Jared Allen, Defensive End – 2004-07 Kansas City Chiefs, 2008-2013 Minnesota Vikings, 2014-15 Chicago Bears, 2015 Carolina Panthers
Ronde Barber, Cornerback/Safety – 1997-2012 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tony Boselli, Tackle – 1995-2001 Jacksonville Jaguars, 2002 Houston Texans (injured reserve)
LeRoy Butler, Safety – 1990-2001 Green Bay Packers
Alan Faneca, Guard – 1998-2007 Pittsburgh Steelers, 2008-09 New York Jets, 2010 Arizona Cardinals
Torry Holt, Wide Receiver – 1999-2008 St. Louis Rams, 2009 Jacksonville Jaguars
Calvin Johnson, Wide Receiver – 2007-2015 Detroit Lions
John Lynch, Safety – 1993-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Denver Broncos
Peyton Manning, Quarterback – 1998-2011 Indianapolis Colts (injured reserved 2011), 2012-15 Denver Broncos
Clay Matthews, Linebacker – 1978-1993 Cleveland Browns, 1994-96 Atlanta Falcons
Sam Mills, Linebacker – 1986-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-97 Carolina Panthers
Richard Seymour, Defensive End/Defensive Tackle – 2001-08 New England Patriots, 2009-2012 Oakland Raiders
Zach Thomas, Linebacker – 1996-2007 Miami Dolphins, 2008 Dallas Cowboys
Reggie Wayne, Wide Receiver – 2001-2014 Indianapolis Colts
Charles Woodson, Cornerback/Safety – 1998-2005, 2013-15 Oakland Raiders, 2006-2012 Green Bay Packers
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You know Manning is one, so that leaves 4. List is STACKED!!
Forgot….
Heck of a job Mike E! Thanks for another great write!
Thanks ER
No doubt — Mike E is the engine that keeps this place going. And he does it real well.
MikeE,
regarding your Mets … it has seemed that they are the ONLY team left in MLB based on the off season moves within baseball as a whole. Mets doing a full transformation in just a few months. Wild! Bt baseball is one of those sports where a big turnover doesn’t necessarily impact on-field performance.
I’m not really thrilled with the trade. I’m tired of them depleting the minor leagues for guys who aren’t even under long term contracts. Lindor will be a FA next season unless the Mets get him to sign an extension. The Mets farm system was weak to begin with and now it’s even weaker. It takes years to replenish that. I suppose if you can afford to keep paying for FA’s then maybe it doesn’t even matter, but that’s like the Steinbrenner Yankees. I’d prefer not to be quite like that.
As an A’s fan … I’d much rather have major league proven players than a whole farm of hopefuls. LOL
It seems like only yesterday that there were demands to start Tua….and now all he can do is throw short passes? Lol
HOF List:
Manning and Woodson I think are both locks.
next tier (that POP): Calvin Johnson, John Lynch
after that Barber, Allen, and Wayne. Man, how does Zach break through this list.?
Id have him in ahead Barber and Wayne personally, Allen played a flashier position and at a high level, was very enigmatic on the field, he’s gonna be hard to beat for getting votes.
Stanger, yes, I watched the game and heard Warner’s commentary. I think there’s some truth to that for sure. Like I said, you have to have a relationship and a confidence with those receivers, feel like you have a mutual understanding of what you’re doing, a chemistry. With the way we were shuffling guys in and out of the lineup at the end of the season, I think it was pretty hard to accomplish that. Take into account both Bowden and Perry played QB their last season of college ball, it’s a lot to ask. I’m not saying that you’re knocking him but I see that sentiment all over twitter. People have already given up on Tua, and listening to WQAM with Joe Rose you get that impression that he doesn’t think Tua is the guy. I’ve had my own doubts as well, but I think they are unfair and unfounded.
Think hard to argue at this point that Tua will (as opposed to could) be elite, but that’s different from being a bust — which he is not. And you are right on about the receivers. And that’s not just injuries. Think his style doesn’t match up well with tall guys like Williams and Parker who need more specific throws. Think guys like Duper and Clayton are his style. And thinking they are coming to us in the draft.
I think they need to move the pocket more, or at least bootleg a little more, he needs to move some, our OL needs to adjust to blocking for him to give him clearer throwing lanes, he also needs to learn to make them for himself if he is getting obscured. its a maturation process and he started late and came into a pressure cooker. The skills he has, he is easily capable of being an elite NFL QB, but patience is needed.He just needs chemistry with the receivers he like great QBs throw to a spot and he isnt used to the timing yet. Every time he has settled into some comfort with a guy that guy has gotten hurt and he settles in with another now he is hurt, so on so forth.
Mike,
Wow, that is a stacked list. I think Woodson has to be a shoo-in 1st ballot guy too.
Yeah, I guess that’s why it’s the Hall of Fame. The best of the best! He was a great player but so are all those other guys, and unfortunately what hurts Zach a bit is there are already LB’s from that era that made it like Brian Urlacher. It’s tougher when you weren’t the best at your position in your era.
Also hurts we didn’t have a Superbowl with him as the lead on our D that would have given him a good book mark in his resume.
Team you were own shouldn’t matter, but it does, or being part of a top ranker unit, or like Mike said were top of the list at your position several years or one outstanding year or two, like TD
LOL Rhino – I’m not really complaining vociferously. I think I always love building a team, just like the Dolphins are doing it right now. A bunch of young players that hopefully become elite together. That’s more exciting to me than buying a championship, but I’ll take it either way. The Mets do have a nice young core of players like Conforto, Alonso, McNeil etc. but I wish we had some more coming up the pipeline.
Jared Allen, Defensive End – 2004-07 Kansas City Chiefs, 2008-2013 Minnesota Vikings, 2014-15 Chicago Bears, 2015 Carolina Panthers
Calvin Johnson, Wide Receiver – 2007-2015 Detroit Lions
Peyton Manning, Quarterback – 1998-2011 Indianapolis Colts (injured reserved 2011), 2012-15 Denver Broncos
Zach Thomas, Linebacker – 1996-2007 Miami Dolphins, 2008 Dallas Cowboys
Charles Woodson, Cornerback/Safety – 1998-2005, 2013-15 Oakland Raiders, 2006-2012 Green Bay Packers
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I really could see this as the final list and maybe a little homeraide in that 5th spot, but not much.
What really pisses me off is Boselli and Faneca on that list and no Webb. Webb was a better LT than Boselli, and a better overall OL at his position than Faneca.
stangerx says:
January 7, 2021 at 3:03 pm
“The Miami Dolphins announced this afternoon that they’ve “mutually parted ways” with defensive line coach Marion Hobby.”
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Didn’t see that coming, maybe our staff is starting to get poached. This sounds more like a team reached out with a better position and they agreed to let him pursue it. Still shocking i thought he was doing a pretty solid job.
RIGHT!? Our D line and LB’s were able to be disruptive and actually DEVELOPED for once. Our young “no-bodies” were as effective and (at least statistically) as good as the $114 million player stomper
If Sewell is there at #3, I’d have a hard time passing him up. A supposed generational LT falls in your lap? Sign me up!
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 3: Micah Parsons, ILB/OLB, Penn State (A-)
Round 1 Pick 18: DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 3: Najee Harris, RB, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 18: Patrick Jones, DE/OLB, Pittsburgh (A+)
Round 3 Pick 17: Josh Myers, C/OG, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 18: Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
Round 6 Pick 28: Tyler Vaughns, WR, USC (A+)
what site do you use?
https://www.first-pick.com/
Closer to the draft this one has different “big bourds”
https://fanspeak.com/ontheclock-nfl-mock-draft-simulator/index.php
Can we all talk about something other than Tua please? It is so divisive….
Hate to say this, no REALLY, but I’m with ORob on this one. He’s not the one nor will he ever be. (IMO) He will waste 4 more years of my life and then Flo will get canned and I will have to deal with this all over again. I am getting thin (in a Stone Temple Pilot way) and am less enthusiastic about it each go round.
Flo wont play him for 4 years if he’s not the 1….
I think Flo has shown that he’s not willing to commit to someone if they aren’t getting it done. If he can’t make it happen next year, I think he’ll be replaced.
Thanks Wy I have Fanspeak premium for a couple more days, which has the multiple big boards, plus lets you trade, but I am not going to pay for it again this year. I’m gonna check out first pick.
I will say that the offense DID click with him there for a couple of games when they let him play up-tempo. He still didn’t do much yard wise or TD wise but the run game and pass game in combination moved the ball well enough and he had low yards high passer rating and were able to score. He has never thrown more than two TD’s in a game for us. THAT sucks.
I tried Draft Network yesterday and got frustrated and quit after trying two. they are so desperate to get an add in your face that they layer multiple pop ups on the top, both sides and bottom of the screen and restrict the “useful” area of the screen to a postage stamp. (only 2-3 picks visible and have to scroll to see more) I won’t go back there.
I think it’s pretty damn clear that Flo is here to win. If Tua isn’t getting it done it will be he who is gone, not Flo. On the other hand, I’m just shocked at the total lack of confidence and perspective some of you have with Tua. Not every QB explodes from day 1. Not specifically about Tua but Bill Polian says evaluating anyone this year is so difficult due to the circumstances and illustrated that with numerous examples. One such example was the Texans/Titans game when Tannehill threw that deep bomb to A.J. Brown to set up the win. He spoke to the coaches and they explained that they just didn’t get the opportunities this season to go over situational play. Like the end of the game when you have to have a guy deep as a safety valve but they didn’t. You can believe it or not, but I think Polian is a very smart football guy and I take stock in what he says. if Tua sucks after a normal preseason and 1st team reps the entire offseason then you guys can bitch and moan all you like. Until then, I just don’t see it. He wasn’t so bad, it was one game where it all went off the rails. I’ll wait till next year to dismiss him.
This is pretty much my assessement.
oh I don’t think we have to wait until he gets a “normal offseason”, I think we can do it now…..we are as fact….LOL JK/BB
Look, I may be wrong, I have been many times, (wait I just checked, I still have a penis so technically I am always wrong according to any woman in the room 😉 ) but I have decided one thing. I don’t like him. I have decided to change my party affiliations and join the HDS. Goodby PB.
1/2 this board was allowed to do it with Tanny and I have decided with Tua.
He sucks.
GO HDS
Up to you Rock. Only way can say you are wrong is that you came to a conclusion too quickly. But guess that is the PB in me. 🙂
LOL You Patience Brigader! I can’t imagine being in the PB…..
Tua is fine. People are nuts. He’s not my ideal QB but this crap being said about him is just stupid.
Grrrrrrrr! First pick is just a bad as fanspeak with their f’n ADs that say “start” all around the “start button”
I know there has been an agreement today to stay away from divisive politics and subjects (other than Tua), but I feel I would be remiss in not bringing this up.
I apologize for any offense it may cause, and I’m not trying to stir the pot or call anyone out, but…yesterday big news broke that Kanye and Kim are basically done and are heading for a divorce. There have been accusations of affairs on both sides, so no one can take the high horse here.
We as a society need to stop arguing about the petty political stuff and DEAL WITH WHAT IS REAL AND IMPORTANT. Together we can solve this thing and we can be the change that we so desire.
Anyway, sorry to light this fire and run, but I have a banana cream pie that isn’t going to just make itself, so I need to attend…
Sad day for big ass lovers
Let’s all take a moment to fart
🐖💨
Piggy, why sad day, that ass is free now? Well, that big ass is actually ridiculously expensive, but free in the sense that no longer belongs to anyone. lol
It’s true, the ass in back on the market again
But that ass destroys everything it touches
LOL, that I can believe
wyoming85 says:
January 7, 2021 at 5:43 pm
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 3: Micah Parsons, ILB/OLB, Penn State (A-)
Round 1 Pick 18: DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 3: Najee Harris, RB, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 18: Patrick Jones, DE/OLB, Pittsburgh (A+)
Round 3 Pick 17: Josh Myers, C/OG, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 18: Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
Round 6 Pick 28: Tyler Vaughns, WR, USC (A+)
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Screw the grades they gave you, I grade on my own. THIS DRAFT, as of today, would be GRAND!!!
BRAVO, Wyoming!
Thanks, I like it!
Thanks for the recap, Mike E.
On to the third year of the rebuild!
See they read us, I said this the other day
Deshaun baby let’s roll
You would!
He reminds me of Cam.
He’s nothing like Cam, Deshaun is a superstar
Suddenly, many Phins beat writers are talking about Watson to us.
I HOPE that doesn’t happen!
Wouldnt be the worst thing. Watson is really really good.
Good write, Mike. It was a very successful season and we have much we can build on. Good times ahead.
son of a son of a shula says:
January 7, 2021 at 10:49 pm
He’s nothing like Cam
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You’re right. He’s more like Tannehill, but without the killer instinct.
Deshaun?
On a team that earned the third overall pick he had the following:
4823 yds, 33 TD, 7 int, 112.4 rating
Roundly considered one of the top 5 players in the league.
son of a son of a shula says:
January 7, 2021 at 10:49 pm
He’s nothing like Cam, Deshaun is a superstar
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Cam wasn’t considered a “Superstar” when he won the MVP?
I just feel that when Watson loses some of his Physical skills (either by injury or age) he will fall off the cliff just like Cam did.
He’s a much better passer than Cam ever was
With Deshaun we become an instant SB contender and the AFC East is a toss up with Buffalo. Without Deshaun we’re hoping for a Wild Card again maybe hopefully.
I would like to say that anything I say about Deshaun does not reflect on Tua, I just love Deshaun. I like Tua and I think he’ll be fine but he’ll never be Deshaun.
Mike E. says:
January 7, 2021 at 2:43 pm
You mean Nick Foles? Wentz was hurt and OUT, as per usghe, but yeah, he’s a big guy, so you love ’em! LMAO
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I’m not “big guy” racist Mike, Nick Foles finished the season but Wentz got them to the dance, as for injury prone, injuries happen in the NFL, look at Tannehill.
just a thought, i highly doubt they would consider Wentz at all, if they did and ate his contract he would be the starter and i think this regime is still blinded by Tua.
Being that Tua is floating in a sea of BUST! we should definitely attain a QB whether drafting one or FAcy, not sure Fitz will be back.
Remember one thing as you wish for Wentz – he’s terrible lol and too expensive
i think he has promise in another situation like tanny, i doubt that would even be a consideration though
aware of the FO Tua delusion, i’m thinking we will trade back, a host of teams will be competing for that #3 pick to get the qb, I believe jets are good with Darnold and will take the tackle at 2.
i think we may be very happy with the return on #3 overall.
we could trade back to 8 and still get Parsons
I don’t think there’s FO delusion…there’s certainly not field level coach delusion.
Flores pulled Tua for not getting the job done twice. If he could have pulled him in the last game he would have.
Trial by fire is always a good test though…imo.
If you believe there is a generational talent at pick #3
(I don’t have a clue) you take him, no matter the position. Right?
I would most of the time and especially at OT. I think Parsons will almost be as good but would rather get Sewell or get Parsons if we trade back and he’s still there. I would really like Devonta but it always depends on where we end up picking. He’s not a generational talent, just a really good WR.
I would never pick a generational RB at 3. I wouldn’t with safety, Center, and obviously with a kicker but all other positions, I’d probably do it.
Why does someone else’s problem guy always have more promise than our own guy? Tua was a better prospect than Carson Wentz, simple as that. He’s been in the league for 5 seasons and has finished 2 of them playing every game. He’s a good QB, but I think he’s another guy who was running the ball effectively until he got hit and got hurt. His own drafted his replacement and he looked off this season. Maybe some team will resurrect Wentz like the Titans did with Tannehill, who knows. We have our own QB that deserves an opportunity and he’s going to get it because he should get it.
It doesn’t matter, no chance we consider Wentz,
Tua has shown he can’t play in the NFL, look at his stats.
teams shut him down offensively.
can he correct that?
can this coaching staff put a band aid on him?
maybe but why should they have too?
they may want to take a long look at themselves and make better decisions.
Grier has been a part of this FO for a long time and we still see bad decisions with valuable picks.
yup, opinions are like but holes. Everyone’s got one and the all stink to someone else.
Dolphins should draft the best QB in they can reach in this draft and trade Tua for a ham sandwich (turkey if they can get it)
you wouldn’t get spam for Tua
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article247466865.html
It’s rather funny how last year Parker was the MVP, this year he sucks,
what happened in 1 year?
oh yeah, he no longer had Fitz.
Twice when Tua was replaced with Fitz the offense rolled again, was that just coincidence?
it’s the wheel, it’s the nut behind it.
it’s not the wheel
Wentz would end being the most expensive backup in the history of the NFL.
Talking about stats, Wentz was horrible this year. 57% completion rate in a league where holding wasn’t called? 11 of his 12 games, he didn’t even get 275 yards. He didn’t even have a single 3 TD game and he’s a 5 year player. Sounds like a much worse Jalen Hur…..oh, yeah, the guy who replaced him as a rookie. Yeah, I’ll pass on that kind of excellence.
trade back and take patrick surtain, that could be a possibility as Flores loves his DBs
there are 4 QBs that will go early, i doubt Miami would take any, they have already said Tua’s their starter. judging from his play last year i doubt that will last.
Oh, and not that anyone cares, but my opinion on trading both 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick for Watson is F’n F NO! There is no scenario where that makes sense.
I like Watson and thinks he’s a terrific QB
But I love our draft picks more…..lol
His cap hit in 2022 and 2023 is over 40 million each year, so keep that in mind
wyoming85 says:
January 7, 2021 at 5:43 pm
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 3: Micah Parsons, ILB/OLB, Penn State (A-)
Round 1 Pick 18: DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama (A+)
Round 2 Pick 3: Najee Harris, RB, Alabama (A-)
Round 2 Pick 18: Patrick Jones, DE/OLB, Pittsburgh (A+)
Round 3 Pick 17: Josh Myers, C/OG, Ohio State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 18: Alaric Jackson, OT, Iowa (A+)
Round 6 Pick 28: Tyler Vaughns, WR, USC (A+)
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Wyo, this is the “little blue pill” of mock drafts. Good Lord it is nearly perfect.
I like it!
Me likely
Regarding Watson…. absolutely no way Houston is considering trading him anywhere. The chatter is just mental-masturbation. Plus, the capital we would have to include is not something our FO/Coach would likely even consider.
Finally, before getting back to work, with the playoffs arriving this weekend I find myself feeling “jealous” … even though we sucked against Bills … I really wanted to see ONE playoff game for our young players. I won’t watch all the games… but I may pop in on Colts/Bills to cheer for Colts.
A good coach will use just missing out on it to make them hungrier for next year.
I didnt know ORob had such powerful mind tricks, but look at all you guys talking about new QB’s now lol.
Jabba the Rob knows Jedi mind tricks
Bet you wish you had a few of those Obi E….especially. 🙂
These are not the QBs you are looking for…
LOL
Guess football writers know more about kicking than the Pro-Bowl voters. AP has best in the NFL in a landslide. Howard too…. but that was a gimme. Here’s the AP votes.
Cornerbacks (2 All-Pros)
Xavien Howard, Miami, 47; Jalen Ramsey, Los Angeles Rams, 25; Jaire Alexander, Green Bay, 18; Tre’Davious White, Buffalo, 6; Marlon Humphrey, Baltimore, 2; James Bradberry, New York Giants, 1; J.C. Jackson, New England, 1.
Placekicker (1 All-Pro)
Jason Sanders, Miami, 23; Justin Tucker, Baltimore, 11; Younghoe Koo, Atlanta, 10; Jason Myers, Seattle, 4; Graham Gano, New York Giants, 1; Mason Crosby, Green Bay, 1.
Nice!
OK, I’ll stop swinging my pocket watch.
Good. How about swinging your side of the bet about, Tua. Or, are you one of those who take one-sided bets. This is the second time I’m asking you what you’re putting up. Last time you put up bullshit.
Swing your pocket watch or put it back in your pocket if you can’t pony up.
I met you once, you and your wife at D&Bs, your wife seemed like a great person i was saddened by her passing.
I hope all is well with you.
Thank you for your condolences.
I’m not sure we met or I was altered and vaguely remember. Sorry.
we may already have our qb on the roster
We do
His name is Tua
Rob – You’re in ABT mode. (A-nyone B-ut T-ua)
I traded back so that we have 4 first rounders next year….lol
MIA
18.
Joseph Ossai
EDGE Texas
MIA
29.
Najee Harris
RB Alabama
MIA
36.
Kadarius Toney
WR Florida
MIA
50.
Terrace Marshall Jr.
WR LSU
MIA
61.
Amon-Ra St. Brown
WR USC
MIA
113.
Marvin Wilson
DT Florida State
MIA
185.
Cade Otton
TE Washington
MIA
186.
Jack Anderson
OG Texas Tech
2022 DEN 1st
2022 NE 1st
2022 NO 1st
2022 DEN 3rd
I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE! LOL
LOL…nice. Did you pick enough WRs?
Oh, have I told you guys that Tua SUCKS!?
That is all. Carry on.
#HDS
What alternate universe is there where you and O Rob are on the same page?
The Tua-verse.
I don’t get the sense that Flores thinks his team’s wins are dependent on having an all pro QB. I think he plans to win with defense, solid special teams and keeping the games close with a chance to win it late. I think part of that is having a ball control offense that limits mistakes and doesn’t cough up the ball much. He is more than happy to win ugly and isn’t concerned with scoring 35 points because his defense will make that unnecessary most weeks. Tua is a pretty good fit for that sort of philosophy. Fans might not like it, but I doubt Flores gives a damn what we like.
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I would agree we need more offensive tools, no doubt. But, I won’t be surprised if we see more defensive picks. We could easily add a LB, S, CB, DE/OLB/pass rusher to this defense. While I won’t be surprised if they draft a WR high, I would be surprised to see them draft a RB high. I really think they could go in just about any direction in this draft because this team still has needs all over the place, and I’d have no problem if they decide to continue building this defense a little more.
I highly doubt fitz stays in miami, He will be a sought after free agent with a good chance to start for another team, not to mention his buddy chan is gone.
that said who’s going to mentor Tua? who will they bring in as Tua’s safety net?
I think Fitz being sought after to be a starter is a little over the top Rob. He is 38 and was never Brady. Brady at 40 maybe, Fitz at 40? No one will be banging down his door.
Retirement is more likely.
don’t for get we get hurns and wilson back this year. that should affect the need to draft a wr early
Hurns has probably played his last days in Miami
Not sure Wilson has a future with the team
It makes sense to bring on young talent at receiver
“The last time a @MiamiDolphins player was named first-team All Pro by @AP_NFL was Cameron Wake in 2012. The last time two Dolphins made the team in the same season? Zach and JT in 2006.”
PBP’s Joe Schad put out his guesstimate on what it would take to get Watson.
I just cant see the Watson trade talk. Why TF would they trade two 1’st & a 2nd to get a LT to protect their QB and then trade that QB for the same or less compensation? Some of you think this is logical enough to discuss as a possibility?!?!?!
It’s stupid! That’s why. LOL
Least makes sense that Watson might get traded as the Texans rebuild. To which team…. whole different Q.
Dude is 25 man, if you have a franchise QB as he supposedly is you don’t trade away the most important piece to finance a rebuild. That building block, arguably the most important one, is already set and barring injury will only get better with experience TWENTY FIVE Y.O.
It make NO sense to any team. IMO
He also just signed a $156M deal.
Rock — I said “might,” but NFL is turning NBA. If Watson says “give me a trade or I am gone when my contract is over” he probably gets his way. And he does have a no trade clause…. so only goes to a team he likes.
Deal in reality please. Google Deshaun Watson trade to start, its Deshaun who might ask to be traded, he’s fed up with the team.
Also Texans have no early picks and an aging roster and the cap is fucked too.
Tim, the twitterverse is saying that Watson may ask for a trade because he had some suggestions for ownership on who they should hire for GM and they didn’t consider his suggestions AND they hired someone without conferring with him first. He had to hear about it on social media! The nerve!
WTMFF IS THAT!?!?!?
Shut up and go sit in the corner you fuck. WTF do you think you are!? REALLY! ?
When we’re at the next Fest and Deshaun has us up by 3 scores early, he’s gonna come up and bitch slap you for calling him a fuck. So watch it.
Son, I really like you but you WAY OUT THERE some times. LOL
Either way, if he stays or goes, I hope that F’d up ego doesn’t come here!
Find it highly unlikely. Lot of teams would be in the competition. And even if Phins were interested, hoping Grier would be smart enough not to be the highest RG3 bidder.
From your fingers to gods blog…
I know folks got excited about 10 wins this year, but this team still has a lot of holes to fill if they wanna take that next step. I just can’t see any major trades going down where we give up lots of draft capital. Part of how you rebuild nowadays is having a young QB on a cheap contract so you can still build. Signing a QB to a huge deal early on in the process is counterproductive.
I agree almost always with you except when a transcendent player is involved, I believe Deshaun is a special player you go and win with. They filled in around Brady for 15 years, worked out pretty good for the pats.
You were excited too. We were in Phase II of turning this team over and exceeded expectations. If we finished 8-8 or 7-9 Grier and Flores would still have the same plan in place. Even they think we’re not where we want to be yet.
I’ll bet any of you that barring injury or something bizarre or horrific happening that has nothing to do with trades, that Tua will be our opening day starter in 2021.
son,
That is true, and I would agree it might be different with a transcendent player. I’m not sure Watson is that, but he’s a very good QB. I just don’t get the sense that Grier and Flores are the sort of guys who would make that sort of move at this point in their rebuild, but who knows? Nothing surprises me anymore.
I tend to agree that it doesn’t seem to be the MO for Grier so I sit helplessly hoping.
The Bills should have traded Josh Allen and a bunch of picks to GB for Aaron Rodgers after his rookie season. Trades like this always happen. LOL
You know why they don’t? Because it’s stupid.
Until Houston gets someone in place who can placate Watson there are going to be rumors.
Isaac Bruce just today said the Rams should ditch Goff and get Watson.
It’s the gift of the Magi for the Texans, they fucked up as soon as they traded for Tunsil.
I sold the watch to buy the combs
I sold the locks to buy the chain
Put the chops on Della, we’ll use these gifts another time.
We got the Tackle to protect the quarterback but we can’t build a team.
So guess what the Texans available cap is ?
Pay attention now:
One dollar and eighty seven cents
Trading Watkins was a real fuck up for Houston too, probably the biggest.
Essentially when they traded Watkins they traded Watson as well or JJ 🤷♂️
Hopkins?
The New Orleans Saints will be without their leader in sacks, Trey Hendrickson, when they begin the playoffs this weekend. He tallied 13 and 1/2 sacks this season — hard to replace. A graduate of THEEE Florida Atlantic University, Hendrickson is the all-time sacks leader in the history of Conference USA!!! He hopes to miss only one game.
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Also expected to make some noise in the playoffs are the Bills’ running back Devon Singletary, who ran for 66 touchdowns (an all-time C-USA record) while playing 3 seasons at FAU. Finally, coming back after a battle with Covid-19, first team Browns TE, Harrison Bryant hopes to find the end zone in Cleveland’s FIRST playoff game in a VERY LONG TIME.!! Bryant, the consensus first team All-American Tight End last season at FAU hopes his first playoff game in the NFL is a successful one.
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FAU has only been Division I in the NCAA since 2005. They’ve certainly come a long way in a fairly short period of time. – – NOW, if we could just get ONE FAU PLAYER on the Dolphins’ roster, I would truly be VERY PLEASED!!
Mike E; –Thanks for doing SO MUCH of the hard work at this site.
YOU’RE OUR MVP here at the FU.
Agreed!
Friday Night Music
Thanks OD, Tim – Much appreciated!
agreed, doing a great job Mike! thanks ! almost as good as Bitcoin, lol
its up $12,000 over the last 7 days, ,,,, it pays to invest!
Rockphin says:
January 8, 2021 at 4:48 pm
I think Fitz being sought after to be a starter is a little over the top Rob.
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the pats might make a play for fitz
patsies will likely go with a QB like TREY LANCE in the draft. hes cheaper, much more athletic and talented, and has a huge upside, things that FItz does NOT have
my mvp for this season has to be andrew van ginkle
Morn Orob, i think Xavien Howard is the teams MVP< but GInk had an incredible year also,
wish i had a bitcoin for every time i heard WIlkins yell out, CMON GINK ! lol
him too
im a bit dissapointed in CHristian WIlkins though, he should have stepped it up , and did not do as well as he is capable of.
in the Bills game, WIlkins, along with many others, was super glued to the blockers and getting manhandled, SMH
i would like the fins to draft Trey Lance so the Pats dont get him.
this reminds me of when the Fins failed to draft Josh Allen, look at how the bills improved with allen, SMH
that could have been us, but the team didnt draft a QB then, even though ALLen was a no brainer future NFL star with the strongest arm in the NCAA at the time
Have not you heard? we don’t need a QB we have the HOFer Tua 100yardavavaloa!
we have an extra amount of draft capital, and Fitz is old, we could def use a QB like Lance
Tua is the franchise starter , and will be awesome when he gets better WR than Hollins, Grant, and Ford
heres a stat for U to chew on, check out the amount of seperation that WR get per team
KC is number 1, think that makes it easier for Mahomes? it sure does,
TUA will surprise You when the team has better receivers, and a better OC< Gailey is gone
i dont know what a hundred yards has to do with anything, because Tua had over 300 when the team gave up 56 points in Buffalo
u think TUa lost the game by himself? Flores said the team was beat in all three phases, offense, defense, and ST
garbage time yards