2021 Position outlook – OL

Our offensive line going forward, assuming there are no cuts or trades sets up relatively economically. The highest paid lineman is last years big FA acquisition, LG Ereck Flowers. As expected, he was somewhat overpaid as free agent pickups usually are. I thought Flowers played well, especially in the run game, he is a mover, often getting the best of his man and getting a good push downfield. The big question will be who plays center in 2021. Ted Karras was signed to a 1YR deal last season and is an UFA. Third year OG/C Michael Deiter played 2% of the snaps and played in all 16 games as a ST’s player and backup. He did play most of the backup snaps at C. It’s possible he’s the answer at center next season or perhaps we acquire a center in the draft. Deiter did play 93% of the snaps in 2019 at LG The Dolphins got a first hand look at the Senior Bowl at 2 potential draftees in Oklahomah’s Creed Humphrey and Wisconsin-Whitewater’s Quinn Meinerz. Humphrey could be one of the earlier centers off the board, probably not until RD2-RD3 while Meinerz would be a later pick. It’s also possible Ted Karras gets re-signed.

1st RD draft (#18) started 12 games and played in 13 games missing a couple due to injury. He was acceptable, not dominant in any way, but consider he had just turned 21 and has a lot of growing to do. I think he clearly has his best football ahead of him. A full offseason of working out and training camp will have him in better shape to start the season. The other 2 draftees that played a good amount of the time on the O-line were 4th RD pick Solomon Kindley who played 70% of the snaps at both RG and then LG when Ereck Flowers was injured. Robert Hunt (2nd RD) played RT and played 68% of the snaps. Both of these guys are veritable mountains. Kindley did have trouble pulling which is expected from such a large man (6’3 340). Hunt while not as heavy as Kindley is still a big man at 6’5 330. Those 2 guys provided some nice run blocking when they were both on the right side.I’d say they were adequate at pass blocking. I never felt like the O-line was a sieve as I have felt in many years watching this team play.

My preference would be to draft a center, and he would compete with Michael Deiter for the starting job. The aforementioned Creed Humphrey could be one the first centers off the board. Other top center prospects are Alabama’s Landon Dickerson, Ohio State’s Josh Myers along with Trey Hill from Georgia. If T Penei Sewell is available at our pick, and he should be at #3 if we stay there, he’d be an upgrade over Austin Jackson or Robert Hunt but I don’t think we go that way. Weapons for Tua come in different packages and top OT to protect him wouldn’t be a bad thing but my feeling is we’ll continue to let young Austin Jackson develop at LT and go forward with big Robert Hunt at RT. I think we’ll be looking for playmakers for Tua with our first pick whether at #3 or later. Think Ja’Marr Chase or DeVonta Smith.


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1,120 Responses to 2021 Position outlook – OL

  1. steveccnv says:

    Impeach 46 (treason, compromised by china) coming soon, right after impeach 45 is done.

  2. Tim Knight says:

    Admins, delete my last post, it might be corrupt.

  3. bailbondmike says:

    Crabbs has lost his mind on his latest mock:

    3. Texans DeVonta Smith WR, Alabama

    Miami receives: QB Deshaun Watson

    Houston receives: No. 3 overall, No. 35 overall, 2022 1st-round (MIA), 2022 3rd-round (MIA), 2023 2nd-round (MIA), CB Xavien Howard, QB Tua Tagovailoa

  4. Mike E. says:

    That trade is fucking absurd. I think I might lose my shit of they do that. That has Mikey Tradey Pants written all over it

    • stangerx says:

      The futures modify to a 2021 2nd and two 4ths, which is not too bad considering Krebbs did not include our #18 this year. It’s Howard that is the problem.

      • Mike E. says:

        To me, you upgrade at one position but then you take away the piece that makes the secondary special. Truth is, we have no idea what will become of Tua, what his ceiling is. I personally don’t think it’s worth all that, but I do understand trying to upgrade at the most important position in the NFL

  5. bailbondmike says:

    Here is a F/A pass rusher who may be coming into his own. Saints are in cap hell and won’t be able to resign him. First 3 years were meh. He did come from a small school drafted in 3rd round out of FAU so big jump there to NFL.

    Trey Hendrickson, Defensive End, HT/WT 6′ 4″, 270 lbs, had a breakout year in 2020 with 13.5 sacks.

  6. stangerx says:

    Posing after a recent dinner in Miami. 2 are Phins Wilkins and Davis. One is Watson. Have a feeling what is like playing and living in Miami came up.

  7. ocalarob says:

    they renamed it the Kenmada!

  8. bookman11 says:

    What has this world come to that someone would impersonate Piggy just get in good with some athletes, smh.

  9. Tim Knight says:

    The YouTube link was a song but it wasn’t playing from the beginning and it was looping weird. I don’t think it was a virus or anything just not worth being up there.

    As for these crazy trades being thrown out there, I’ll just wait until something happens and address it if it happens because I don’t like what’s being proposed.

  10. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    February 12, 2021 at 5:57 pm
    He’s become a bit of a jerk. Safety is not a big need on our team. More speed up front on defense and playmakers on offense.
    More than any other person, I should have known this but overlooked it: Pearl will be 32 years old by the time the NFL kicks off in 2021. My how time flies… WOW. Feels to me like he was drafted about 6 years ago (it’s been 11 years).

    HELL NO to signing Pearl. We’re not yet on the cusp — though we’re getting closer — to adding a vet to put us over the top. And as I insinuated, I’m not sure Coach Flores would want anything to do with the Pearl what with his recent off-the-field life. My bad, and hard pass.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I also like the upside of Brandon Jones. Not sure how high his ceiling is, but I like the way he plays. He has good instincts and plays hard.

      • mf13ss says:

        I really wish we could have seen some more from Brandon Jones in terms of reps, but he was a rook playing behind Bobby McCain, afterall.

        I don’t think McCain absolutely sucks at FS, but I don’t think he’s ever going to be anything more than a mediocre FS.

        7 INTs in 6 years, 0 FRs in 6 years, 1 FF in 6 years, 4 Sacks and 7 QB Hits in 6 years… know what I mean? And if you look at his last two years alone as a strict FS, it’s no better. If you look at him and correlate it to the QB position, he’s essentially a placeholder until we get somebody better.

        I hope Brandon Jones can win the FS battle vs Bobby McCain in camp, and return McCain as a full-time nickelback.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I think Bobby McCain is a bit underrated. He’s a smart dude and a gamer. The FS position in our defense is that single high so INTs are not going to be there unless a QB makes a bad throw. If you noticed this year we don’t get beat deep over the top very often. Our weakness is midrange on crossing routes because we play so much man. That’s another reason I’d like to see us add more speed at LB. Baker is good but we need another guy. Van Noy brings a savvy vet to the group and Van Ginkel is progressing nicely. But I think we need more speed.

      • mf13ss says:

        I agree with ya that McCain IS a bit underrated. Like I said, I don’t think he’s sucks, and you’re absolutely right that he’s a gamer. I just feel he’d be more effective from his natty NB position. He’s not a playmaker, but he is solid… I can’t disagree.

        And I do agree with ya that we could use more speed up front on Defense.

      • mf13ss says:

        Suffice it to say that I feel we can do better at FS than McCain. And no, I don’t feel FS is a priority to address early. Perhaps Brandon Jones steps up, or maybe we find a sleeper late in the Draft or even via UDFA.

        I want to see competition back there! πŸ™‚

      • Tim Knight says:

        How many times did it seem we had the right defense called but just couldn’t close to chop some plays in half. The quickness of the Bucs LBs really impress me. If we could add some speed on the edge and at ILB I think we could be a really tough defense to move the ball on. I think we have some good pieces already, just need a jolt of speed now.

  11. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    February 13, 2021 at 9:06 pm
    How many times did it seem we had the right defense called but just couldn’t close to chop some plays in half. The quickness of the Bucs LBs really impress me. If we could add some speed on the edge and at ILB I think we could be a really tough defense to move the ball on. I think we have some good pieces already, just need a jolt of speed now.
    Oh, I agree! We don’t want to sacrifice size for speed, though. Would you agree with that?

    • Tim Knight says:

      I want both. LOL

      • mf13ss says:

        One reason I ask: Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah, Notre Dame, LB, is 6’2 and all of 216 pounds. Many believe he’ll be a stud LB who goes in the mid-1st round. Yeah, he’s fast, but is he REALLY a LB at the next level?

        I agree with you once again: I want both (size and speed)!!!

      • mf13ss says:

        I’ll be doing research in the coming days, weeks, and months… but I’ve got to run for now. I’m with ya, Tim, on getting faster on the DF7.

        Shout out to BBM regarding Trey Hendrickson above. I had many drafts mocking him to us several years ago, and now we may be able to get him via FA.

  12. Tim Knight says:

    M13, it will be interesting to see how we approach FA and who we add.

  13. D says:

    BBM Trey Hendrickson was a guy I liked when he was in the draft. His tape was amazing and you could see he was a high motor player. Not shocked he has been pretty successful but I think he also fills a role we already have covered

  14. D says:

    Watson I thought was from Miami, dont this k he needs explaining that lol

    • Mike E. says:

      That trade is also ridiculous. Hard to follow the way he wrote it but the Jets would be the one giving up the 3 first round draft picks, right? If that’s the case they wouldn’t have tons of draft capital, just kind of a regular amount.

  15. D says:

    If I were Watson I would have wanted to go to the Saints but with Brees looking like he is going to play another year at least, it doesn’t seem likely

    • CavalierKong says:

      Did Brees change his mind? He said he was retiring

      • Mike E. says:

        He renegotiated his contract for next season to free up cap space which initially for some reason they thought was to retire. That I didn’t quite understand, when I hear he renegotiated his contract to free up cap space my first thought was that he would play one more year. Why take a lower salary if you’re retiring?

      • steveccnv says:

        Brees is retiring, he restructured to save cap space, otherwise the Saints would be on the hook for a large cap hit this year. The restructure spreads it out over 2 years I believe.

      • steveccnv says:

        A normal restructure gives the player a large cash payment, generally a bonus, so that the current years cap gets some relief while the cap hit is pushed down the road.

  16. steveccnv says:

    Lots of talk about the stock market being over extended, things like PE at levels near 1929, 2000, and 2008.

    We could continue to have new records in 2021, but we could also see a crash.

    Someone here recently said, my 401k better not take a big hit, so don’t give it the chance.

    Warren Buffets company uses the 63% cash – 37% in stocks rule.

    If the market goes up you still benefit, but if it goes down by 30% you get back into stocks with some large % of cash, then when it goes down further use more cash to buy stocks.

    “We attempt to be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful”

    I had a large sum in cash in early 2020, then in the spring, when the DOW was close to its low I bought back into stocks, with all my retirement cash. Today I’m back to 63% cash.

    • CavalierKong says:

      So when you reinvest, are you day trading or investing in mutual funds?

    • stangerx says:

      Most put in and leave it retirement funds are more aggressive than that. Typical would be 60% equities and 40% cash and cash equivalents. Not sure why Buffet goes more cash, but might be cause he wants more around to buy businesses and such, which most of us don’t have to worry about.

      Same time closer to retirement you get the safer you should play it, so you might be in the exact right place.

  17. CavalierKong says:

    I only read headlines on the Brees restructure, but I took it that he was doing one last favor to the team as he sails into the sunset, getting paid out over a couple years to save them from cap hell.

  18. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!

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