2021 Position Outlook – LB

The Miami Dolphins defense made a resurgence in 2020. Some of its success was due to better play at LB, and no one player benefited from the improvements we made on defense as our own drafted LB #55 Jerome Baker. Baker had his finest season and has become one of the leaders on this defense. His signature season featured 112 tackles, 7 sacks, 7 TFL, 11 QB hits, 3 passes defensed and 2 forced fumbles. Bringing in FA’s Kyle Van Noy, Elandon Roberts, and also the big guys like Emmanuel Ogbah, Zach Sieler and Shaq Lawson and the emergence of Andrew Van Ginkel allowed Jerome Baker to be what we had hoped he could be, a playmaking LB who made plays in every facet of the defense. One could easily say if we had one more guy like #55, our defense could be elite, and it’s hard to argue. Although our secondary is the first unit you think of when you think of dominance, I feel like our front 7 aren’t far away. By the end of the season, the rotation of Wilkins, Davis, Seiler, Ogbah, and the LB’s Van Noy, Baker, Lawson, Van Ginkel, Roberts were a very solid group. Before the season finale in which we got stampeded by the Bills offense, this was a legitimate defense. Both Elandon Roberts and Kamu Grugier-Hill were one year contracts, so we have to add a LB or two either in the draft or free agency.

For the 2021 NFL Draft, there are a few LB’s that could help our team right away. The first one hails from Linebacker University (Penn St) and is the top LB prospect in this draft, Micah Parson. Big, 6’3 245 and rangy, and with excellent speed and can run sideline to sideline and cover running backs and tight ends. He really is a talented LB, one that could eventually transform our defense along with Jerome Baker. While Elandon Roberts was a run game thumper, Parsons could be that and do everything Baker can. If you liked Super Bowl linebackers Lavonte David (6’1 233) and Devin White(6’0 237), we could have that with size with Parsons (6’3 245) and Baker (6’2 230).

Another very good prospect is Tulsa LB Zaven Collins. Where Parsons could play any of the LB spots in our defense, Collins is more than likely going to play outside. Collins is big, bigger even than Parsons at 6’4 260. Collins is better in pass coverage than rushing the passer as he has just average burst. He has good speed, but not elite speed. He does have excellent length and can cover tight ends. He would need to improve his pass rush, as many prospects do. He’s a possible target and should be available at our 2nd pick if we stay at #3 and #18.

If we want to draft a LB much like the aforementioned Super Bowl Bucs LB’s Devin White and Lavonte David, that would be Missouri LB Nick Bolton. Bolton is a little smallish, especially when compared to either Parsons or Collins, but he can play. Bolton is 6’0 232, and is very fast and explosive like the two Bucs linebackers. He has the speed to also run sideline to sideline is a reliable tackler. Where Bolton struggles however, is in coverage. The instincts that serve him well in his run defense haven’t yet been developed in pass coverage. Still, he has the athleticism to become a 3 down backer.

If we’re looking for an OLB/Pass rusher, look no further than Texas’ Joseph Ossai. Ossai is a bona fide pass rushing LB. What’s more is that he is a very high effort guy, plays full out all the time. He has the size (6’4 253) and speed to be a perfect fit as a 3-4 OLB. Ossai was able to increase his statistical totals playing in only 9 games in 2020 as compared to 13 games in 2019. He compiled 55 tackles, 15.5 tackles behind the LOS which is 2 more than the previous season in 4 less games. He also topped his 2019 in sacks with 5.5 over his 5 in 2019, again, in 4 less games, also adding 3 FF’s.

There are many prospects that will be interesting but those are the guys that I feel can make an immediate impact. Another undersized player who can play multiple positions including LB and safety is Jeremiah Owusu. He’s 6’1 215 and has legit speed and explosiveness. Another interesting prospect later on is former Florida Gator and UAB transfer Jordan Smith. Smith got caught up in the alleged credit card scandal in Florida and transferred to UAB. He is raw, but shows potential as a pass rusher with great length 6’7 255. He’s also a good for fit for a 3-4 OLB pass rushing LB. He is definitely a project though, and would be probably be 3rd-4th RD pick. Let me know who you guys like, I know y’all have your favorites.

GO DOLPHINS 2021!!!

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1,017 Responses to 2021 Position Outlook – LB

  1. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I would like to see them draft another impact player or two on defense. The defense was okay, but not overwhelming.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      See below, as wondering, thinking same thing, especially after final game of season.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      The 18 pick might be a good place for that

      Once you throw out the idea of drafting Parsons based on off the field stuff, the 4 pick is down to 1 a WR; 2 Sewell; or 3 a trade down

      There’s just not a defensive propose to I would take at 3

      So that’s why what we do at 18 and 36 is really interesting. I can see one of those picks being used in Defense. It’s a good spot for a pass rusher or some one like Barmore from Alabama to help out DL depth

      Also, let’s see how Iggy develops

      One interesting thing about improving on Defense, is you might be able to add a vet just to bring some leadership to the table

      I really like the idea of JJ Watt, but right now it looks like the Browns and Steelers are making a push

  2. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    TX shut down quicker with 2 inches of snow than it did with COVID.

    ……a state that produces more “power” in the nation.

    That’s pretty funny to me, and sad.

  3. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    steveccnv says:
    February 19, 2021 at 9:40 am
    My memories of Jake are all great ones, he was one of my favorite all time ayers. It just kills me that you tarnish that by taking his name
    _______

    You suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

  4. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    I don’t know whatever I’ll do for tarnishing Jake Scott’s name. That hurt me all the way to my duodenum.

  5. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    A lot of noise recently about Watson to Miami, and Miami hasn’t said anything about not being in the Watson sweepstakes

  6. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Steve: “All the video evidence is out there, starting with the Dominion machines being connected to the internet”
    Krishna: “Keep lying”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSbZq8qS0r8

    Some people are just blind sheep or don’t care out of extreme hate for Trump that they don’t want this looked into further. They don’t care that this is going to set a precedence for future elections and our votes don’t matter anymore. They are all just peachy cause the orange man is no longer in office.

    Someone is going to respond saying this is false or BS but that is only because CNN told them it was without any investigation.

  7. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Just took a drive less than 5, probaby around 3 miles round trip, to see and go to HEB, local grocery store, but state chain. Website said they were open, but wasn’t going to stand in line. So, took a chance since had AWD. Treacherous road conditions, but navigable.

    “Store closed” poster on main entrance.

    Low water pressure now being reported on national news as state-wide. Local folk knew 2-3 days ago.

    Neighbors talked, bi-partisan…lol, and watched out for each other.

    See, it can be done….lol.

  8. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Whatever happened in this election is done. All I know is we better be voting IN PERSON, supplying valid identifications next time around. Do it the way it always has been. I thought it was a sham that people can go to the grocery store, Home Depot, whatever but can’t go out to vote. No way that’s acceptable next time around.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      What is your point?

      Voting in TX was at designated voting sites, wear masks.

      Go to a grocery store, wear a mask.

      My TX experience.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        It was strictly vote by mail in NJ, no voting in person. To boot, and you can ask my wife, we all sent in our votes at the time, and my vote got kicked back (The ONLY Trump vote in the family). Got a notice my signature didn’t match the signature they had on record. My wife signed my son’s name on his ballot because he had moved. That one went through. I completed the form they sent me and NEVER got confirmation that my vote went through

      • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

        No way Mike! are you suggesting voter fraud? can that actually happen?

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Every state defines their own voting laws, Mike E. I have no clue about NJ.

        And, for sure, i know nothing of the politics there.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        To say the least

  9. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Why don’t you try and guess as to what my point might be? You’re a smart guy

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      No clue….sorry. Just asking you to help me understand.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        That people have lives, even former God-like Presidents like President Obama. If it’s good for Obama, it’s good for Cruz. Both got flack and some of it is deserved and some of it isn’t.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        I think that’s comparing apples to oranges. A State senator leaving town, his state, during a state emergency in his state is a far different scenario than the one you cited about Obama.

        Really? Are you always about, what about this?

  10. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    I love lamp

  11. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    I wouldn’t go to Louisiana when it’s not flooded. I don’t blame Obama.

  12. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    FL was great, i went to the polling station and voted, had to show my DL.

  13. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    NY Gov Coumo in some hot water with this nursing home issue!

  14. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    No need to worry about voting anymore. “They” will do it for you.

  15. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    TBH, I don’t think each state should decide individually how their people are going to vote for president. States can run their state elections how they want to. I think the Presidential election should be by itself and one set of rules for every state/territory and that is in person with a valid ID. Instead of election day, have an election week Mon-Fri where voting sites are open. To avoid massive lines, break it down by alphabet or DOB for Mon-Thurs and have Friday for stragglers. If you can’t make it, sorry, guess you are not voting this time around.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      need a constitutional amendment for that Mike. it is written into the constitution the way it is.

      To change you would need overwhelming support and have to get 50 state legislatures to ratify the change.

  16. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    A State senator leaving town, his state, during a state emergency in his state is a far different scenario than the one you cited about Obama.
    ————————
    Alex, something CNN would say for $500, please

  17. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    This place has turned into facebook, and I killed a guy with a trident. lol

  18. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    It’s true though

    Unless you want this place to be like Facebook, we need to shutdown the political speech

    It’s way too much

    I enjoy engaging myself and I like hearing other point of views

    But most of you are just throwing rocks at people you don’t like.

  19. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Whenever I see a tragedy on the news, I think of the families hurting and struggling and I wish them an ease to their pain and a solution to their problem. I don’t jump on the internet as fast as I can to argue partisan politics. If you find yourself doing the latter, then maybe you need to re-evaluate life.

  20. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    This is sort of a joke draft
    But if we just took WRs, Edge and RB – here we go

    3: R1 P3 WR Ja’Marr Chase – LSU
    18: R1 P18 LB Zaven Collins – Tulsa
    36: R2 P4 EDGE Joseph Ossai – Texas
    50: R2 P18 WR Kadarius Toney – Florida
    81: R3 P17 RB Trey Sermon – Ohio State
    123: R4 P18 WR Armani Rogers – Clemson
    202: R6 P16 WR Tamorrion Terry – Florida State
    256: R7 P30 RB Elijah Mitchell – Louisiana

  21. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Agreed, Piggy and to those who don’t need the politics here. I sure don’t. I could never do social media. This place is more than enough for me! Lol.

    Blissful and in a haze….then someone posts political bull shit and breaks the whole mood. Lmao!

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      “someone” includes me.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Well you and I both certainly are guilty of putting our .02 in

      Sometimes i enjoy it

      Sometimes I don’t

      I just think it’s on each of us to try to curb it when we can, without completely barring it – bc sometimes it’s worth discussing current events

  22. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I haven’t spent this much time looking at draft projects in a few years. COVID did it! I think when all is said and done we should be able to add several key players to this team. That’s really all I’m hoping for.

  23. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    It’s raining ice off the 40-50 ft Live Oak trees in the front yard. Amazing! Beautiful!

    I am so grateful and fortunate….

  24. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Dang Piggy, replacing the whole WR room, lol. Those are ones I like. Glad you like “Scary Terry” in the 6th. Draft him and put him on the jugs machine until the season starts. IMO, dude could be special if he puts forth the effort and improves on his drops. He would have been considered a top 10 WR in this draft had he not had the dropsies and played on a team with no good QB. Dude is BIG and has good acceleration after the catch especially for his size 6’4 203. He is not frail either.

    OK, gotta post him again. Good example of his acceleration is at the 32 second mark:

    • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

      He’s definitely got some skills. It’d be nice to get him late.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I think he’s a developmental WR

      The thing about FSU, is they are so deep into decline now the talent isn’t being recognized, but they still do bring in some talent every year

      The coaching is really bad at FSU right now too – I don’t have a lot of faith in FSU draft prospects being nfl read these days

  25. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Still think we need 2-3 new starters/better players on defense via draft this year.

  26. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I’m not opposed with starting over with the WR unit this year, lol. We shouldn’t have to and that’s the shame of it.

    I like the FL dude from the little i saw of him. Tough and elusive from what I remember.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      I agree. I don’t really like our WR unit too much. Either injured or not making a huge difference from what I’ve seen the last few years.

  27. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    If Parker was our #3, I would look at our WR unit as exceptional

    Parker is a solid outside wr who can make plays but has been inconsistent even when healthy

    After that I don’t really think anyone is worth mentioning other than alber Wilson
    And I don’t think ven k ow the deal with Wilson these days – I can’t really say he’s on the depth chart

    But Parker outside on the other side of a Ja’marr chase or a DeVonta Smith

    With some one like Toney or Amon-Ra St Brown

    That can be a very good trio without dipping into free agency

    There are also plenty of free agent that can help us

    But without adding a free agent, I would like to draft 2 WRs before the end of day 2

    Bc I do think Parker (with gesicki contributing) can be a part of a very good unit

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      My thoughts as well. Parker is too inconsistent overall as a #1 BUT PAIR HIM WITH A #1 and another solid WR and he’s extremely dangerous. Wilson has talent but he’s done almost nothing here. I don’t mind keeping him for 3 million but I also don;t mind if we have someone else we want to give a try either.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      At some level you have to work with what’s on your roster, even if this not living up to what you hoped it would.

      I think we’ve parted ways with way too many players over the years in favor of what the new shiniest toy is

      Parker is a good example of changing that trend

      He is ripe to get bumped down the depth chart but not ripe to be waived IMO

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        I think Parker/Williams makes for one great WR. Plus name comes with a back-up. And you get that flyer on the other side things could open up big.

  28. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    According to the Herald we have $25 mil in cap space and a bunch to do. Might not be able to sign too mu ch without some back-ending or restructuring.
    —————————————————-
    “The Dolphins need $11.9 million to sign a draft class if they keep all their 2021 picks.

    They also need to sign a starting receiver; sign free agent Ted Karras or a new center; sign free agent Davon Godchaux or a new rotational defensive tackle (unless they draft one instead); sign Matt Haack or another punter; sign a backup quarterback; re-sign exclusive rights cornerback Nik Needham (will be cheap at $850,000); sign two or three linebackers to replace Elandon Roberts, Kamu Grugier-Hill and perhaps Vince Biegel.”

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      I just don’t know how any teams outside of the top 7-8 in capital will get anything done. We’re in the top 11-13 in space this year and we have very few high end guys. (If it’s going to be so hard on us, how will these other teams get under the cap and how will all these FAs get paid this year? Looks like the Famine end of the scenario for a lot of players this year. Might be a great time to look for talent if we can manage the cap.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        FA prices actually might go down, but guess that is expected with the cap doing so. Thinking some big names might be let go. Agree could be some bargain basement deals.

        Little wary of managing the cap to get more…. that is the road to cap hell. Going with rookies in spots is the sound financial move.

  29. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I just realized that I don’t know what more than 1/2 the keys on my key ring are for! I haven’t a fucking clue.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      lol, I’ve one that I have no clue either. Might have been to a place I lived 3 moves ago. lol

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        I had my key fob for my car on my key ring and had to take it off to replace the battery.
        The key on one side of the fob was my house door and the other side was my office door. Those are the only two keys I use regularly. I put the fob back on my ring and realized that I don’t know what the rest of the 10 keys on the ring are for exactly and couldn’t find my office door key right away and got stuck standing in the rain while checking every key to see if it fit! LOL

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I bet one is for your high school locker

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        LOL I thought for a moment some might have been for the 2nd house I sold last year, but I remembered checking every key in every door up there when I had to turn over the keys so none of them are from there. One I know is a spare key to my best buddies place he gave me in case of emergency (Kramer Key) but I couldn’t say which one it is. The other 8 keys I have no clue! LOL

  30. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Looks like Pro Days start March 5 and run for a month to 1st week in April.

  31. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    New Age says:
    February 19, 2021 at 1:44 pm
    What’s your thoughts on keeping Godchaux, Biegel, and Elandon Roberts? Which positions are you looking at mainly for improvement?

    Reply

    I like the idea of re-signing Godchaux NOW for good depth at a fair price. Roberts is rehabbing a knee injury that was, according to Flores “Significant” which occurred in late December and his contract is expired so I would pass on him. Biegel we traded for, but not much and he never showed much. He looked promising in some games, but I think we go ahead and draft a replacement for him.

  32. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Not convinced on the number reported to sign the draft class. I don’t think those are the “Cap” numbers. How could the Herald know? Salaries are slotted in the CBA but not bonuses or cap structure.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Your salary is dictated by your draft spot. Not sure how much the cap hit can be changed up by the structure of the contract.

      Either way though guessing will be less than that cause of what comes up every year — does not include the cap hit saved from the guys at the bottom of the roster no longer getting paid that the draftees replace.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        the salary cap can be swung a LOT based upon structure. Bonuses are prorated across the length of the contract (4 years for rookies) so you can structure the salaries in a large range and push money to future by making it bonus (while they get it immediately)

  33. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    They say no good deed goes unpunished. We’re getting our condo re-done and told our cleaning guys (we like them) they could have our bed platform and nightstands from our master BR.

    They called on Monday and said couldn’t clean the apartment we are in on Tuesday as scheduled. Why? — they were picking up the stuff we were giving them. Said could clean our place next week. 🙂

  34. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Stanger

    After finishing spending a significant amount of time on IR in each of his only two seasons, I think relying on Williams for anything other than depth at the position is a huge risk.

    We need to add at least 2 WRs who can compete to be our top 3 WRs IMO

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      We have Hurns under contract for 2 more years. His dead cap hit for 21 is more than his salary so I think we keep him. We have Albert Wilson under contract for 21 at a cap hit of 5.1 Mil (dead cap of 2.1) So I think he make the team again this year.

      That said, I think we need more talent so I would still draft replacements for them.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Pig – like Williams and like Parker, but both fragile. Why was suggesting could count on both as one WR slot. Want one stud boundary WR and one explosive slot on top of them. And slot can come lower.

  35. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I would resign Godchaux also. He would round out our DL without drafting one early and knows the defense already. Not sure a rookie would play any better. At least early on.

    I don’t think Roberts will be ready come opening day.

    I would see what’s out there before resiging the others.

  36. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I tried doing a mock draft on Fan Speak using the “User Voted needs” instead of “steve’s list” and the number one positional need according to the “user votes” is QB.

    WTF!? I personally don’t like the choice of Tua, but IMO we are stuck with him for at LEAST another season.

  37. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Lauren Boebert is 2nd Amend as they come and she’s been linked to Q (even if denies now), but could be worse things that this congresswoman hitting the news a lot. Maybe she can be the anti-AOC.

  38. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Guys we just can’t go into the season expecting anything from receivers like Wilson, Hurns or Williams

    They may pleasantly surprise, but they are building blocks for a WR core

    If we add 1 we and then we are hoping for some one else who hasn’t delivered for us in the past to deliver – we are asking for failure

    We already have one inconsistent player in Parker. The value he brings is hennhes on his ceiling is really high, but we are taking big risks relying on multiple players at the position from the 2020 roster – and we shouldn’t be taking those kind of risks this year. It’s pretty critical to our young QBs development

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      So what do want then? Think we are all locked in with WR in first and taking a 2nd one in the second or third or getting someone in FA. You thinking #3 and #18?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I think you add 2 WRs that are good enough to compete for the top 3 spots along with Parker

      If we add a free agent like an Allen Robinson that will take up one spot and then you probably can add one on the first two rounds

      But if you don’t add a wr in free agency that we can seriously say can take Parker’s spot, then you have to walk away from the draft with two receivers in the early rounds

      We have 5 picks in the first two days

      You don’t need to use the #3 pick, but you are gonna get one heck of a WR if you do.

      If we took Chase/smith at 3

      And waddle fell to 18 I would even take waddle at 18 and use both first rounders on receivers

      And then you can use those 2nd rounders to address other positions

  39. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Anyone want to go fishing?
    Florida recently caught grouper.

  40. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    What type of WR are folks thinking we should target, or does everybody just want to draft 2 or 3 regardless of how they play?

  41. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Can that young gal even reach her weapon where it’s hung….nicely? Lol

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Wasn’t kidding that she was a congresswoman, but whether she can reach the weapon depends on if her arms can get around her chest. 🙂

  42. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Can’t wait! It’s going to be near 70 by next Wednesday!

  43. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    If I took a WR at #3, I’d be open to taking one at #18 too, but he’d need to be a guy I valued pretty highly and there wasn’t a guy available at another position of need that I valued just as high. But really….there’d be nothing wrong with getting two quality WRs. And, sometimes bringing in some young, high end talent has an impact on those old vets that you like too.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      There’s really only 2 guys at 3: chase and Smith
      And 2 guys at 18: waddle and probably Bateman

      Waddle probably won’t last to 18
      And Bateman might not be worth 18
      Some people might argue Toney is a first rounder.

      We are close enough to the draft that we can kind of have an idea of who will be available when

      I think it kind of breaks open in the 2nd round with a lot more names being argued as 2nd rounders

      And you have to keep in mind we have a high second round which sets us up nicely to take a good player that slips out of the first

  44. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I would think the front office were out of their minds if they took two WR’s in the first round and ignored all the other pressing needs this team has. That is phrased very mildly because others I like on here have already expressed their acquiescence to the idea. I think it is a turrible, just turrible idea.

  45. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Rock,
    Lol. It was all piggy’s idea! It would not be my first choice. But, still, if you believe you need a serious upgrade at WR…and 2 guys you absolutely love are there for the taking, it’s still coming down to getting two guys you want at a position of need. I’d go Penei and then the best WR left at #18, but lots of folks think that’s crazy too. Just get good players.

  46. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I think we’ll revamp the WR position a bit but just adding multiple guys isn’t going to do it. We need to add some special and/or significant contributors. I look at how guys like Diggs and Beasley really helped transform the Bills passing game. Maybe a FA WR and one drafted early could help us do the same. It’s not like we don’t already have some good WRs at all.

  47. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Damn Mick!

  48. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Rock you are not ignoring pressing needs by acknowledging that we have two pressing needs at WR

    Our WR unit is not one WR away

    Two of our pressing needs are receivers

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yeah but if we continue to build the OL, add a stud RB, a playmaking WR, Tua taking the next step and some upgrades on defense, we’re a much better team that fast. This team is not completely void of talent. We have a solid core that needs a jolt of special. Our TEs were also very productive in the passing game last year.

      I don’t think we need to draft two WRs early and I don’t think we will. One FA WR who’s a proven vet that is better than Hurns or Ford etc., and a really good rookie prospect would be good enough.

  49. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Phel, is there any tactical reason for a holster on the leg like that, or is just about the way it looks?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Dangling around like that seems weird to me

      Is that more dangerous? Like riding a bike with your shoe lace untied and the shoe lace get stuck in the sokes…,that’s all I can think about when something is dangling like that – like it gets caught anywhere.

      If you want to draw quickly is it like picking up a strand off spaghetti?

      I really want to know – why?

      It doesn’t seem practical

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        it is a drop leg holster. If you are wearing bulky body armor and / or multiple items of equipment on your belt they help keep the side are clear of the “clutter” and allow for easier drawing. They are also easier to draw from a seated position so if you are sitting a lot in your job they are beneficial.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        I’m betting there is a practical reason other than killing Greedo’s while sitting, lol.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        there is a strap around her leg to keep in tight to her thigh. it doesn’t flop around.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Ah, that makes sense, Rock. (The body armor and tactical gear thing)

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      It was a thing with operators for awhile. Before they issued a lot of body armor. Easy access. Still see them occasionally but have mostly fallen out of favor

  50. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    So Piggy goes from a WR discussion to worrying about holsters. LOL

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Oy…..That’s about 2000-late tactics-wise! These days everyone is carrying a short-barrel, suppressed rifle. Pistols were never meant for anything besides the last step before going to K-Bars and e-tools.

  51. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    HUH WHO KNEW!?

    FAGE yogurt is pronounced Fiyay
    Just saw a commercial for the first time but I have seen it in the cooler at the SM. I must admit that is not how I pronounced it in my mind.

  52. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    If she were to spread her feet and bed over at the waist she could definitely reach the gun!
    Maybe not before mine went off? But I’m sure sure she’d get there!

  53. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    for her it was probably a f’n fashion statement.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Who cares? Put out her pic cause her body is rocking and all you guys want to talk about is how she holstered her weapon. 🙂

  54. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Drop leg draw is actually slower and less accurate than a draw from the waist.

  55. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    This is how they deal with body armor getting in the way of the holster these days

  56. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Well If your in the saddle it keeps the gun away from the rope and horn! and you could reach it easy!

  57. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    But Stangers point….she can wear it anyway she wants.

  58. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    When I referred to it as a fashion statement, I mean because “that’s how cowboys wear them”

  59. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Those are all good explanations

    Now please tell me the beneficial use of this one

  60. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Lol…..i really don’t care how she wears a gun, just don’t shoot me!

    I would keep Godcheaux, Roberts is hurt but i like him a lot.

    I think a top end LB in the and a 3d DL/Edge in draft, two starters.

    Agree about team help on O needed, ie I like Harris as the RB, top end WR, and upgrade on OL. I think this helps Tua and the team best. If we can find a gem 2nd receiver, awesome.

  61. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    TEAM PICKS

    3: R1 P3 WR Ja’Marr Chase – LSU
    18: R1 P18 RB Najee Harris – Alabama
    36: R2 P4 EDGE Jaelen Phillips – Miami FL
    50: R2 P18 WR Kadarius Toney – Florida
    81: R3 P17 C Landon Dickerson – Alabama
    123: R4 P18 S Talana Hufagana – USC
    202: R6 P16 QB Filipe Franks – Arkansas
    256: R7 P30 DL Tedarrell Slaton – Florida

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      I like. But didn’t someone on here say Dickerson has been hurt a lot.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I read that he started 24 of 25 games the last 2 years

        But he transferred from FSU to Alabama and didn’t start many games at FSU….maybe that’s injury?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Yes, Dickerson has injury flags galore. I REALLY like that guy, but he’s going to fall due to injury concerns.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Season ending health issues for Landon Dickerson…
        2016: 6 games + ACL injury
        2017: 4 games + ankle surgery
        2018 (RS): 2 games + ankle injuries
        2019: Healthy
        2020: Knee ligament

        This is not the picture of great health. Love the guy, but too many injuries in the past. Last two years have been relatively good to him, but that knee ligament in 2020 should be very concerning regarding his past.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Yeah but that last injury was in the SEC championship

        He was a mess at FSU, I didn’t know the story

        But he almost made every start for Alabama after he transferred there – he just would have missed the post season bc of that 2020 injury

        So first 3 years certainly raise an eyebrow though

  62. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Randy says:
    February 18, 2021 at 10:46 pm
    MF13,
    Actually, Ojulari is like Rousseau but with a little more polished and less athletic talent. Ya know, the NFL is drafting these raw but superior athletes and teaching them how to play more and more. Sometimes it’s easier to shape the clay yourself rather than have to break a guy of bad habits and then teach him good ones. There is some truth to the old “Ya don’t know what you don’t know.”. Lol
    ————–
    You may be onto something there, Randy. I suppose it comes down to a given player’s mindset and ambition. It’s not like “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks”, being these are rooks… however, if a given player is so hellbent on doing it his own way on talent alone and without film study/proper coaching, he’s going to be left behind.

    And this is where most draftniks and pundits get left behind themselves: they aren’t privy to the private player interviews with coaches and GMs.

    Some prospects stand out from the rest in terms of character, GPA, team captainship, and other off-the-field endeavors/accomplishments before they turn pro. For most of the rest, it’s a rather grey area.

    In short, “ya don’t know what ya don’t know” (<– I dig it) comes down to a player's willingness to get ever better. As such, Rousseau vs Ojulari vs Ossai may simply come down to their interviews. WHO IS THE HUNGRIEST? WHO IS THE TEAM PLAYER?

    I don't portend/pretend to know, either. I'll try to find as much out as I can.

  63. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    stanger,
    Yeah, I wasn’t really wondering about her holster. I was just trying to be polite. Lol

  64. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Now that everything is out on Ted Cruz, we all know what he did was wrong, and he lied about it to save face, but the NYT ratted him out with the text messages.

    With so much disinformation out who knows what’s actually true initially. We can’t really talk politics here unless both sides are willing to admit when their side was wrong.

  65. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    With the Wentz trade Phil has plenty of ammo to move up to 3 to get a QB. It would put them in a great position, rookie waiting in the wings and guy who can win as placeholder.

    Are we better off if the jets take a QB or don’t. I hope they do, because QBs 2-4 seem to be lumped together, so once the first one is gone now those in need will be a little nervous.

    If one of the 3 separate themselves from the pack before the draft, then I hope the jets don’t take a QB.

    There’s also the argument that someone may really like one over the other, and it would benefit us if the jets don’t take one.

    In any scenario I see us being able to trade down and get good compensation.

    Can we get 3 1sts like RG3 garnered, probably not, unless someone stands out and I don’t see that happening

  66. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    So the condition on the Wentz trade becomes a 2022 1st, if he plays 75% of the snaps and the Colts make the playoffs. Wouldn’t that be the ultimate dilemma, if we trade down from 3 with Philly and get that conditional pick, then be in the hunt for a playoff spot with the Colts.

  67. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Billy the Kid had his gun low so it was all an uphill draw, filed the sight off to reduce friction.

  68. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    not sure what happens if we resign fitz, i heard they may give him a 1 year deal worth 10 mil guaranteed, if that happens it may mean there’s no interest in bringing Watson here.

  69. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Team Picks
    10: R1 P10 WR Ja’Marr Chase – LSU
    18: R1 P18 EDGE Gregory Rosseau – Miami FL
    48: R2 P16 RB Javonte Williams – North Carolina
    50: R2 P18 WR Kadarius Toney – Florida
    80: R3 P16 S Paris Ford – Pittsburgh
    81: R3 P17 DL Levi Onwuzurike – Washington
    99: R3 P35 RB Trey Sermon – Ohio State
    123: R4 P18 DL Osa Odighizuwa – UCLA
    148: R5 P3 C Drake Jackson – Kentucky
    Trades
    Trade Partner: Dallas Cowboys
    Sent:
    Round 1 Pick 3
    Received:
    Round 1 Pick 10
    Future Round 1 Pick
    Round 3 Pick 35
    Trade Partner: Las Vegas Raiders
    Sent:
    Round 2 Pick 4
    Received:
    Round 2 Pick 16
    Round 3 Pick 16
    Trade Partner: Houston Texans
    Sent:
    Round 6 Pick 16
    Round 7 Pick 30
    Received:
    Round 5 Pick 3

  70. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    i think godcheaux is gone, i’m sure he will get great offers out there and i doubt miami will be willing to pay him his market value.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Nothing wrong with the player, just don’t think it’s wise to pay him, unless it’s a true team value contract. I’d give him some not so easy to achieve bonuses.

  71. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    it seems that eliminating the qb position from the draft, the talent level is pretty much very similar thru out the top 20 or so players.
    having the #3 overall pick looks to be very valuable to a QB starved team.
    if we take a player at 3 i think that would be a huge mistake.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      ^ 100%

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      It’s not a mistake if we don’t get return value for a trade down

      I don’t think the talent level is similar at all
      Particularly at WR

      Nearly every expert I’ve read has chase, waddle and Smith in the top 10 players

      If we want one of those top 3 WRs or Penei Sewell, you probably can’t drop much farther than 10

      Those four players are better prospects than anyone who might be there 12-20

      If you can’t get a team like Carolina, Philadelphia or Detroit to offer good value for the 3, it’s probably a mistake to trade down

      A trade down out of the top 10 when we have a glaring need at WR and 3 WRs are really expected to go in the top 10 would be ridiculous

      If we did something like that, we better receive multiple first rounders in return

  72. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    got this 1989, toyota tercel for free, has 79k miles on it.
    all i had to do was go get it. bought a battery from walmart, $50.
    i started it and drove it home, the engine had a severe knock in it.
    pulled the oil pan, spun a rod bearing due to lack of oil, apparently the last person to drive it ran it low on oil, when i drained the engine oil you couldn’t fill a thimble with it.
    got the bearing out. ordered bearings oil pan gasket and valve cover gasket online, total $34.00,
    waiting on parts to put it back together.

  73. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    still looking for my 04 c-5 corvette vert.

  74. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    February 20, 2021 at 3:05 pm
    It’s not a mistake if we don’t get return value for a trade down

    I don’t think the talent level is similar at all
    Particularly at WR

    Nearly every expert I’ve read has chase, waddle and Smith in the top 10 players
    ________________________________________________________________

    i Believe one of them if not 2 will drop, there’s also some good OL past 10, weigh that agianst another 1st rnder next year

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Maybe top 20 is stretching it , but nothing wrong with dealing down in the Top 10. And heck…. I’ d take #31 and a bunch of 2’s or maybe even a first next year.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Colts had lots of cap. We did last year, but that was last year.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Maybe you missed my post the other day about having lots of cap space. It’s not always good to have lots of cap space, especially when you have a good team, because it generally means you have lots of FAs, and in their case they have 22.

      I can’t speak for how many of these 22 are important players, but that’s a lot to have. I wouldn’t exactly call their cap situation great.

  75. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Chat Sports has us taking Penei at 3, Najee at 18. I’d prefer a trade down, but those 2 would work.

  76. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tua working out HARD!!

    Work 🚂 pic.twitter.com/lZwElQTIy1— Tua. T 🇦🇸 (@Tua) February 20, 2021

    https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js

  77. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    The Colts have only 13 players making 2M or more, so they’ll either have to sign several of their 22 FAs to low 1st year cap hits or they won’t be able to sign too many.

  78. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Anyone else think Jamarr Chase is a lot like Williams and Parker?

  79. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    “As for Waddle, he earned the nickname “magic” during his prep days in Texas, and that ability to wow those watching carried over to his first season in Tuscaloosa this past fall where he earned freshman All-America honors as the Tide’s No. 4 receiver behind Jeudy, Ruggs and Smith.

    “The dude is explosive,” now-former Alabama running back Josh Jacobs said of Waddle. “He really might be the fastest dude on the team. I think the dude runs at least a 4.28, legit. He has legit speed. He’s going to make a lot of big plays. You’ll see a lot of him throughout the year.””

    https://247sports.com/college/alabama/Article/WATCH-Alabama-Football-WRs-Henry-Ruggs-III-Jaylen-Waddle-race-each-other-131686961/
    —————-
    We’ll see how Waddle recovers after his broken ankle this past year, but the guy has SPEED: he’s not to be slept on and has hands (unlike Clyde Gates of yesteryear).

    Should we trade down from R1P3 and keep our pick within the top-10, we’re going to get a great WR between Chase, DeVonta, or Waddle… and 2 of the 3 are most familiar with Tua, from their years together at Alabama.

  80. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Just bought a new iPad Pro – lets see if it leads to less typos

  81. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Impissuble😛

  82. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Like Randy has said, just add good players.

  83. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    what we need is a wr who can stretch the field with speed, right now Grant is that man, maybe wilson can help in that dept if we get him back.
    but that should be the focus at wr, not sure Chase fits that mold

  84. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    If we can match/exceed Jerome Baker at LB, i.e. complimentary, as in both, that might be the next level for this defense, imo. DL/edge is next. Those 2 pieces and added depth. We lost the last game of the season because we had no pressure on the QB and could not stop the run. They scored 50 points! WTF?

    The O needs playmakers, not just fillers. A top notch 3d RB, WR maybe 2, and more OL help.

    Continue the rebuild in year 3 and draft the core of your team to start and develop them.

    Stay the course!

  85. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    we have all these possession rec such as parker, hollins, bowden,ford,williams, none of these guys has elite speed to knock the top off opposing D’s.
    do we draft another similar guy in Chase?

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      I agree except for the fact there’s no one your list that’s reliable in skill or presence/injury issues.

      So, I would say both. The whole unit may need a reboot and this might be the year to do that since we have the draft capital.

  86. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    QB play has a lot to do with the proposed inability of our wr corps, look at how Parker thrived with Fitz in 19 and was sub par with Tua in 20

  87. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Parker was relatively healthy in 2019 as i vaguely recall (only one, i think) and then back to nagging injuries, as per his career, in 2020. When he shows up, he’s fine. And, to my point.

    He has earned his way to being 3rd or less option due to his lack of playing time.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Tua might be partially responsible, but it’s not his fault Parker isn’t on the field.

      We didn’t even have a WR unit on the field for the last game. Seems telling to me.

  88. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I did a Rockphin trady pants draft on PFF: I added 2 1st rounders in 2022 and still got Devonte Smith.
    Trade
    Dolphins Received 6, R1 2022, 37, 84
    Eagles Received 3
    Trade
    Dolphins Received 9, R1 2022, 40
    Received 6

    9 DeVonta Smith WR • Alabama
    18 Gregory Rousseau ED • Miami (FL)
    36 Wyatt Davis G • Ohio State
    37 Samuel Cosmi T • Texas
    40 Jabril Cox LB • LSU
    50 Najee Harris HB • Alabama
    81 Creed Humphrey C • Oklahoma
    84 Jay Tufele DI • USC
    123 Richard LeCounte S • Georgia
    202 Marquez Stevenson WR • Houston
    208 Alaric Jackson T • Iowa
    Overall Draft Grade
    A

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      This is the best mock I’ve seen. Now, if a double tradedown was anything close to reality, and we got 2 2022 1sts…

      The possibilities of these trade downs can bring unlimited assets, that’s why I think we must trade out of 3.

      Think about a draft taking Smith at 3 compared to Smith at 9 plus 2 2022 1sts, and 2021 2nds and other picks and its a no-brainer

  89. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I really don’t understand why the Eagles are supposed to be drafting a QB, especially moving up to get one. They drafted Jalen Hurts who at the very least looks dynamic. Sure he wasn’t great but that team sucked last year no matter who the QB was. If they don’t think Hurts is the answer, why did they draft him? That’s kind of like how I feel about Tua. I was listening to WQAM and Joe Rose and his cohost Zach Krantz and they were talking about the uncertainty with Tua’s injury history and and whether he can last in the NFL blah blah blah. Don’t you think the Dolphins scouts carefully weighed all that when they took him? Think they took him at 5 and played him for 10 games and decided he’s not the guy? I think some of that talk is ludicrous. I get Hurts was a 2nd RD pick, but he played in 4 games, threw 6 TD’s and 4 INT’s, and also ran for 354 yards and 3 more TD’s.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Lol….that’s what talking heads do. Some of it so lame.

      I think Hurts is a good QB and is going to do well, if supported. He’s been successful with 2 different college teams at the highest level. There’s something to that imo.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Regarding the Eagles and Hurts, keep in mind the new regime didn’t draft him. New guys might not be sold on his potential.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Also, yesterday they said the Eagles believe they need 2 QBs, so with that said the media thinks they want a top QB.

        Hurts isn’t going to be that guy, that is going to wow anyone from the pocket.

        The rookie QBs that tend to do the best are those that don’t have to read an NFL D to be successful, in other words they do it with their feet.

        The problem is they don’t usually last too long.

        Joe Burrow seems destined for greatness, since he moves around, but doesn’t depend on his feet.

        Tua I think is more mobile than Joe, but didn’t have the WRs for several games, when he did like the AZ game he was really good.

  90. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I trust Grier and Flores will find/get what they want for this year (fingers crossed) and lay some groundwork for next year, too.

    A repeat of last year’s “success” (imo) during the off-season, will take this team to another level in 2021, again imo.

    Stay the course.

  91. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    As for Tua, it’s not about taking him at 5, it’s about his performance on the field, it was horrible, he looked like a boy amongst men, he has no vertical passing game. he couldn’t get the ball down field.
    he has a hard time getting the ball up and over the opposing DL due to his low delivery, he has to have wide open passing lanes to throw the ball.
    that’s why the check downs work because he gets rid of the ball before the DL gets in his face. the result is he can barely break 100 yards passing.
    you cant keep throwing these check downs and think you will be successful.
    the opposing DC will kill you with that strategy.

    Tua’s a BUST!

  92. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Pause the video at the .08 mark look at the ball position how low it is.

    now look at Brady at the 4:07 mark

    can you see a difference??????????????????

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      It’s not even close, and Brady is 6″4″ tall!
      Tua’s a midget by NFL standards.
      so the NFL scouts that weighed in on Tua as you said Mike need to be fired because they don’t have a clue!

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      look how far Tua’s ball is away from his head, look at the same with Brady, very stark differences, the reason Tua has the ball so far away from his body is due to lack of arm strength, he has to deliver the ball that way to get velocity on the throw.
      so IMO there’s no fixing that.

  93. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Mike E,

    I thought the same thing about Philly and the same answer is always, new coach new QB. I’m always surprised to see them say, “I can’t possibly succeed with the trash you gave me” and hear ownership agree with them. I think Hurts is a decent, young QB with potential. At least similar to what other young QBs can do. Just work around your guys like every other coach has to now. It blows my mind that just a few years after getting the ultimate prize, Philly burns down everything.

    Howard is a very weird situation. I wouldn’t talk to the cops either but having the prime suspect disappear? The victim is your ex-agent? Cops are incompetent many times but it’s not a good look either way.

    The thing people like about Chase is those long, explosive plays. Most 20+ yard receptions in the past two years? That sounds explosive. That sounds like he can take the top off. I think Smith and Waddle can do the same thing but out of the 3, he’s done it a lot more. 14 in one year is pretty damn good. I really want to see how he’s been doing since taking an entire year off though. Is he in shape? How fast? Is he willing to grind? I have some real reservations that he was unwilling to play unless Burrow was there to make him look good.

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