Dolphins very active before the 2021 NFL Draft

The first big mover was actually a subtraction from the roster as the Dolphins parted ways with LB Kyle Van Noy after recently (last season) signing him to a 4YR/$51M deal. That move was followed by the eventual trade between the Dolphins and the Texans which sent DE Shaq Lawson to HOU for ILB Benardrick McKinney. The Dolphins gave the Texans our 6th RD 2021 pick in exchange for their 2021 7th RD pick. Lawson played both OLB and DE for the Dolphins last season but never really hit his stride in our defense. Van Noy was brought here for his leadership and his playmaking, but the surprising rise of OLB Andrew Van Ginkel helped make Van Noy expendable. While AVG played mostly weak side and and Van Noy played primarily strong, both were interchangeable. I’m guessing the new #55 will undergo a uniform number change as the Eagles would say Ol’ 55, Jerome Baker owns that number. McKinney will definitely solidify the middle next to Baker and and the bigger (6’4 260) McKinney brings more physicality there while Baker brings the sideline to sideline quickness and speed.

In addition to McKinney, the Dolphins further solidified the run defense with the addition of DT Adam Butler. Butler was a rotational guy on the Patriots defensive line with only 12 starts in 4 seasons but he played in all but one game, and he averaged about 45% of the defensive snaps, so he had a good amount of playing time. He’s a DT that gets good penetration, with 20 tackles for loss, 15 sacks and 22 QB hits over parts of 4 NFL seasons. Unfortunately for former Dolphins DT Davon Godchaux, that most likely seals his fate and he most likely will not be returning here. (Update!) Godchaux has signed a 2 year deal with the Patriots, thanks to a couple of FMU NFL insiders.

On the offensive side of the ball, the Dolphins signed RB Malcolm Brown from the LA Rams. Brown while never a premier ballcarrier or workhorse, he brings a more physical running style than what we currently have in Myles Gaskin, Salvon Ahmed and Patrick Laird. Brown was basically the 3rd cog in the Rams run game behind Cam Akers and Darrell Henderson. Brown had a career high 419 yards on 101 carries with a 4.1YPC. He also caught 23 balls for 162 yards and had 5 rushing TD’s. I believe this still leaves the door wide open to draft a RB, even an early pick as I think we still need a talent upgrade there. The Dolphins just recently signed former Texans WR Will Fuller to a 1 year deal. Honestly, I never wanted any part of Fuller because although he has the speed we need, he’s a guy that has a tough time staying on the field, and considering the fact that we already have that in DeVante Parker, that doesn’t give our young QB any kind of stability when guys are constantly missing time. In any case, the Dolphins do get a guy who averages on the high end of YPR (14.9) overall but a career high 16.7YPR last season along with 8 TD’s. Also keep in mind that both Allen Hurns and Albert Wilson are set to return this season after opting out due to COVID last season. Wilson and Hurns together count less than $8M against the cap so don’t count them out just yet.

We didn’t get Joe Thuney, David Andrews or even re-sign Ted Karras, so the Dolphins decided to gamble on former ravens C Matt Skura. Much like Fuller was to me, Skura wasn’t really on my radar. Skura was a 4 year started for a stout Ravens O-line, but he has had injury issues, most recently having a devastating injury 11/19 in which he tore just about anything and everything in his knee including his ACL/PCL/MCL and dislocating his knee cap. To Skura’s credit, he toughed it out last season starting 12 games and playing in 15. As to whether he’s an upgrade over Ted Karras remains to be seen, but Skura was definitely the less expensive option. It’s once again, possible we draft a center with Creed Humphrey, Landon Dickerson Josh Myers, and Trey Smith available. Dickerson and Humphrey could go as early as 2nd RD but the others should be available in the middle rounds.

There are rumors still swirling linking former Seahawks RB Chris Carson and the Dolphins. While I have no problem with bringing in Carson, in my mind at least it would have made the signing of Malcolm Brown unnecessary, but Brown at $1.75M hardly breaks the bank. If we do get Chris Carson, that would almost certainly turn our attention away from drafting a RB early in this draft, meaning no Najee Harris, Javonte Williams or Travis Etienne.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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  1. Randy says:

    Kwity Paye looks like a good player. He looks like a kid who Flores would like. He’s tough and powerful. He’s smart and coachable. He plays hard all the time, so they say. He’s got some flexibility to play inside because of his power, so you can move him around a little. I don’t think he’ll be a big sack guy, but that doesn’t seem to be a big priority for them. I think he’s a little more athletic than folks give him credit for, but either way he’s athletic enough. I don’t think he’s worth a top 18 pick though.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Agreed, he’s a nice prospect but more of a 2nd round guy. When I saw his name show up for us at #18 I was like where did that come from?

    • steveccnv says:

      He’s not even Shaq Lawson, so why get rid of Lawson and replace him with Paye?

      • steveccnv says:

        These U75s, that are mocking us to Paye at 18 prove their retardedness day after day.

        Their logic is we lost an Edge in Lawson, so he needs to be replaced with another one, that does the same things.

        Well maybe Flores got rid of Lawson and KVN, because they were too slow and didn’t have the quick twitch he’s looking for.

        It was pretty apparent to me Josh Allen ran circles around us. We need to combat that with quicker LBs, guys that can rush and pursue him.

        Watching Paye’s pursuit was painful

  2. ocalarob says:

    Paye looks like a pretty nasty disruptor to me, looks like a 3-4 de that can play with his hand in the dirt or not

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s the problem, we already have 3 of those, we need a Bud Dupree type.

      When watching Paye’s highlights, game tape vs PSU showed nothing, he made some plays against weak competition like Army, Rutgers and Iowa

  3. steveccnv says:

    Tua needs the offseason work more than Herbert and Burrows, because one of his intangibles, that is key to his success, is reading a D.

    Teams can report starting April 19th.

  4. Randy says:

    Steve,
    You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about as usual. Iowa isn’t weak! And, they typically have one of the better OLs in college. If Paye makes plays against an Iowa OL, that’s saying something.

    • steveccnv says:

      I’m just busting your balls 😛

      When watching the highlights, I was like who are these teams, went back and it was Army and Rutgers, figures, then Iowa, oh Randy would like me adding Iowa

  5. Randy says:

    steve,
    I figured, but I can’t let that go! Lol
    ***
    I don’t remember him even playing us. We don’t play Michigan much anymore.

  6. Randy says:

    I was never a big fan of Shaq Lawson, but I think he compares pretty closely to Paye. They’re about the same size and are both more slow twitch guys who win with power over speed and are probably never gonna give you more than 6 or 7 sacks, but they can be solid against the run and help control the LOS and give you some versatility.
    ***
    Again, I wouldn’t draft him in the 1st, but if he somehow drops to the 2nd, I’d consider him as a possible option given the sort of guys this FO has signed in the past. They have yet to go after a pure edge rush guy. Maybe they do this season.

    • steveccnv says:

      There’s got to be a reason they let go Lawson and KVN, especially with dead money.

      If it was just Lawson, maybe they just wanted McKinney and had to give up something, but with both, there’s got to be more to it. 2 steps back before you can go forward.

      You have to plan to win your division first. Allen kind of sprung on people this year, so he’s the 1 guy you have to set your roster to beat.

      The year after Ricky ran wild for us the division opponents all signed big IDL to stop him

  7. D says:

    Lol this Watson drama. So apparently his lawyer went out and found 18 massage therapist that had good things to say about him. So is it just me or does this kinda hurt his argument more than it helps. Counting all the others this guy is in the 30s of different massage therapist. I mean I don’t see how this helps him. It sounds like to me he has to keep going to new oned because the others won’t work with him anymore. People have a go to therapist, maybe a few backups when the cant get their go to, but fuck 30+ wtf.

  8. D says:

    I really hope pick 6 is Pitts of he makes it that far

  9. steveccnv says:

    CBS mock has us taking Waddle at 6, Paye at 18.

    Come on man!

    Ok to take Waddle, but I’d trade to 8 or 9, if possible before taking Waddle at 6.

    At 6 I only really want 1)Pitts or 2)Chase. Parsons would be OK, but could be had at 8 or 9 too.

    Lots of options with Pitts, and Flores likes him some 12 personnel

  10. steveccnv says:

    It’s just civil court, and anyone can file suit, so the shear numbers don’t mean much to me.

    What does is the Mary SI interview, the 21 might have been contacted by Buzbee and he said wanna make some money?

    Mary saying she didn’t want to sign up with him shows there’s some lawyer scumbaggery going on.

    I’m not buying Buzbee’s reason for not filing criminal charges (Watson’s lawyers connection with the Houston PD).

    Watson likely doesn’t play this year due to suspension, if they get it figured out by September, or commishioners exempt list.

    Either way he’ll never be the same again, I keep forgetting…

    • Ken says:

      Civil lawyers do not file criminal charges. That’s up to the police and prosecutors

      • steveccnv says:

        Yeah, I knew that, just didn’t word it properly. File the complaint

      • Ken says:

        Got you. The prosecutor and police can still investigate in the absence of someone making a complaint with the police. It would not shock me if that happens in this case

  11. steveccnv says:

    Stone Cold Brian Flores mentioned the other day that they’re making a playbook geared more towards Tua’s strengths.

    I hope they put in west coast offense type of plays, slants and RPO stuff.

    Baltimore did that year 2 and Jackson took off

    • Ken says:

      Agree. I think having someone like Fuller who is really good on YAC can really help the slant game. We were awful on YAC last year. 30th in the league

  12. steveccnv says:

    Tua is different, than Fitz, he needs his own offense. The last one really didn’t play to his strengths, nor did the roster

  13. steveccnv says:

    Maybe I’m wrong and I’m not taking Edge setter serious enough, but it just doesn’t make any sense to me why we’d get rid of KVN and Lawson, if we weren’t looking for a different type of Edge. I suppose someone like The U’s Phillips or Rousseau.

    this is from SI

    EDGE DEFENDERS

    The two most noteworthy offseason departures, with the possible exception of Fitzpatrick, were Kyle Van Noy and Shaq Lawson and that has left the Dolphins with perhaps their biggest need. Emmanuel Ogbah had a big 2020 season in Miami and Andrew Van Ginkel showed great promise, but there’s not a lot of proven depth at this position. That’s why so many mock drafts have projected an edge defender for Miami at number 18 (there’s no prospect at the position deemed worthy of the sixth pick). Need: Significant

    • Ken says:

      I think Edge is definitely in play and that is why I think Parsons is in play at 6. He is a lot like KVN but much more athletic

  14. Rhino says:

    https://www.pff.com/news/draft-two-round-2021-nfl-mock-draft-san-francisco-49ers-justin-fields-kyle-pitts-joe-burrow-cincinnati-bengals

    Some very shocking Mocks out there now. This one believes there will not be a single RB taken until the 3rd rd.!!! lol. I seriously doubt any of the top RBs get past our #50 pick.

  15. Rhino says:

    https://www.si.com/nfl/draft/mocks/mock-draft-monday-2021-nfl-mock-draft

    This one has Fins taking Parsons at #6 … and, like Lays potato chips, Flores can’t get enough elite CBs cuz #18 Fins take a bizarre drop of Surtain II. …. I guess the logic is “Hey, X, lets discuss your contract demands now”. (?)

  16. bailbondmike says:

    I saw another mock this morning from Todd McShay on ESPN. Didn’t catch the rest of it.
    #1 QB Lawrence
    #2 QB Wilson
    #3 QB Jones
    #4 TE Pitts
    #5 WR Chase – Cincy feels the draft is deep at OT and take one in 2nd round and go with Burrows’ top receiver at LSU.
    #6 WR Devonta Smith
    Mock also had Carolina move up to #7 and draft QB Lance
    With QB Fields still there at #11, Pats trade up and take him there.

  17. Randy says:

    I think they brought in KVN to help this young defense learn how to play the way Flores wants them to. I don’t think their priority in signing him was his edge rushing ability. He’s not much of one. Neither is Lawson. What KVN is is a smart veteran who knows how to help run the defense on the field and help guys get in the right positions. I think Baker has now shown that he can be that guy too, so maybe they felt KVN wasn’t needed anymore. Van Ginkel also improved his overall game. I don’t think we’ll see a whole lot more upside from him…maybe a little…I hope, but he’s a lot younger and cheaper than KVN.
    ***
    Bottom line is they signed guys like him and Lawson in the first place, so they liked them for some reason. Why they let them go is debatable. I’m just kinda going by what we’ve seen them do thus far. Maybe they feel this is the year they go after that edge rusher who can be a difference maker, but they really haven’t shown a lot of interest in that sort of player so far. But, this may be the year. Sadly, I don’t think there are a ton of special edge guys in this draft. They all have warts.

    • Ken says:

      I think KVN and Lawson we were very versatile guys. They can play the edge and rush the passer. Neither was elite at what they did but they gave Flores flexibility in his defense which he likes. Now that they are gone there really isn’t a similar type of player on the roster. Parsons does have that same type of flexibility with a much higher upside that is why I think he will be the pick at 6

  18. D says:

    To me Pitts is hands down the best offensive weapon in the draft. I don’t even think it’s close. We can still grab a BA WR with the second first or even one of the second ones but if we walk out with Pitts and Harris we are WAY improved. If we can also squeeze in someone like Toney or Waddle even better.

  19. D says:

    These Edge guys this year are not elite, neither are any of the LB types. Parsons is a freak show athletically but so was Alonso. There is much more to the position that freakish 40 times. I don’t see Parsons as a great LB. Very good for sure but you don’t take very good at 6

    • D says:

      I think he is gonna hit a wall when it takes more than being the best athlete on the field to do the job. In the NFL the level of all the other players is going to level that and instincts etc is what’s going to push people to the top.

  20. Randy says:

    Ken,
    I agree. They seem to want versatility and flexibility over a guy who is more of a specialist. Guys who can move around and bring pressure from anywhere. I just don’t see a pure edge rusher being something they value. But, maybe they have been building up to bringing in a guy like that.
    ***
    It’s kinda why I could see them targeting a guy like Paye. He’s solid but not spectacular with a nonstop motor, and he’s got the power to move inside in this sort of defense. He’s not gonna get you 12 sacks, but he looks to be a guy who will be good against the run and will put pressure on the QB from multiple gaps. Flores seems to value pressure over sacks. Just my take on how they’ve done it so far. Now, watch them draft a guy like Rousseau and fuck up my logic. Lol

  21. Randy says:

    D,
    Parsons is pretty good. I have some issues with how he plays inside, but the guy can play. I really don’t see him as an edge rusher. He can be used that way because of his speed, but I view him more as an ILB who can move around and who should be able to cover RBs and TEs.
    ***
    I don’t see any special defensive players in this draft. Some guys look like they may have the potential to be special….but potential ain’t a given. I think Parsons is as good as any of them, but I do think he needs to learn how to play with more discipline and not just run around trying to make plays everywhere and take himself out of position. Teams will exploit that in a hurry….and as you say….in the NFL his athleticism won’t save him like it did in college.

    • D says:

      I agree with this. I don’t see any of them special, even at CB and S where I do really like Surtain and Horn but I don’t think they are screaming 10 pick or shutdown corner. You might be right Parsons might be the top of the pile of a very average pile but I’d rather take the player that would most affect this team and to me, right now that’s Pitts.

  22. D says:

    There are some edge rushers who currently a slotted later, that I think play better at the position. They probably won’t get you sick sack totals but they will overall make the defense better by funneling things back to the middle. A guy like Christan Barmore who is a tweener 3-4 DE, 4-3 DT, or Carlos Basham, or ever Dayo Odeyingbo. These guys can be had 2nd to 3rd, maybe even 4th if the slide. As a LB Jabril Cox and Jacoby Stevens both out of LSU have really good ability to read and recognize and versatility to play inside and outside.

  23. son of a son of a shula says:

    Dolphins have signed DL John Jenkins

  24. steveccnv says:

    We failed containing Allen, because our front 7 didn’t have enough speed.

    We need a Chase LB, maybe that guy is Baker, and maybe McKinney is the guy to secure the middle to allow Baker to roam.

    In the earlier history of the Fins there was always that LB, that cleaned up the shit the rest missed, we haven’t had that for a while. Zach, Hugh Green, Offerdahl, Buoniconti…

    That’s the guy I’m looking for, McKinney and Baker might be the tandem of that guy.

    We also need pressure from OLB, that’s what pick 18 should/hope will bring

  25. steveccnv says:

    If I remember correctly Jenkins played a lot of DE for us, not sure why they moved him outside, but…more depth on an already solid front 3 or 4

    Keep guys fresh and move them around, the Flores way

  26. stangerx says:

    From a mock at the Baltimore Sun….. seems we could do worse.
    —————————–
    18. Miami Dolphins: Jayson Oweh, EDGE, Penn State

    Oweh didn’t record a sack for the Nittany Lions in 2020, but there just aren’t many 6-5, 257-pound athletes who can run a 40-yard dash in 4.36 seconds, bench press 225 pounds 21 times and leap 39.5 inches. The Dolphins could use that kind of skill set to add some burst to a young defensive line.

    • ocalarob says:

      That’s great! sounds like he has a great future in running and lifting weights, not all great athletes are good in football, and there are some not so great athletes who are tremendous football players.

      • stangerx says:

        6-5, 257 and runs a 4.36. If the film sucks…. maybe we take take him in the 2nd. Some team will.

    • steveccnv says:

      You can’t trust that 40 time. I guarantee it’s BS, just like Parsons sub 4.4.

      At the combine 1 guy did the times, so they were all done the same way, then redone on pro days, but if they weren’t close the pro day time was thought to be in error

  27. ocalarob says:

    the way they sprinkle these FA’s in it’s hard to predict the needs of this team.

  28. New Age says:

    On Watson, I’m no lawyer but I know the evidence requirement is much lower for civil suits. With close to 20 accusers I don’t see how Watson isn’t the loser in that case and I see no reason for them to settle with such good odds. Am I off on this thought?

    For the NFL, if he loses the civil suit, what’s next? With new female refs, etc it puts them in a sticky situation. Add in ESPN and other media having a huge number of female employees that can eviscerate weak penalties. I don’t see how Watson gets out of significant penalties that can last several years if not longer. How hasn’t he damaged the NFL with this? He has and that meets criteria for punishment. This isn’t deflated balls. It’s a massive PR nightmare.

    • Phindog says:

      Well he was trying to get his balls deflated.😎

      • stangerx says:

        LOL — lot better than when folks say a dog “is so much more mellow” after.

      • steveccnv says:

        His balls did get inflated, among other thing, that was the problem.

        He was looking for help deflating them

    • Ken says:

      Settlement is almost always preferable for both plaintiff and defendants. It manages risk and guarantees a certain outcome. As good as case looks on paper there is no guarantees when you put your case in the hands of 6 strangers. Also it also a lot cheaper and more expedient to settle a case rather than wait for years to get your trial date

    • Ken says:

      Only about 2% of all civil cases go to trial

    • steveccnv says:

      Civil evidence is more likely than not

  29. stangerx says:

    From Poupart. Not sure why CB is so high, but interesting take.
    ——————————————————–
    RANKING THE POSITIONS IN ORDER OF NEED:

    1. Edge defender
    2. Running back
    3. Wide receiver
    4. Offensive line
    5. Cornerback
    6. Linebacker
    7. Quarterback
    8. Safety
    9. Tight end
    10. Defensive line

  30. steveccnv says:

    I posted above the text from Edge, thought it was interesting, but yeah I’m with you on CB.

    He kind of nailed DL, but a little premature, where’s Watson, seeing that we added one today

    • steveccnv says:

      We really just need an Edge, the rest are for upgrades. We had far less depth top to bottom at the rest of the positions starting a season, so we’re pretty deep now, but not good enough at the top to make a playoff run

      • stangerx says:

        We think the same on this. Edge is the only thing we need. Still not a contender, but then some quality picks in the draft.

      • steveccnv says:

        Contender needs to be accomplished by the new parts meshing together and the existing parts taking the next Tua step.

        The draft can help some guys take the next step.

        When you draft for mostly the lines and future QB, like we did last year, draft results don’t show right away.

        This year drafting more for skill positions should show quicker results

      • stangerx says:

        Completely agreed. And maybe we surprise this year, but I’m cool with how the team is building. It’s a long-term deep kinda of thing.

  31. stangerx says:

    Guess this means Don Jr. is in the political Trump business and Eric will take care of the real estate stuff. Ivanka bought in South FL…. not sure what that means for her.
    ——————————-
    “Donald Trump Jr. and his girlfriend Kimberly Guilfoyle are now Florida home owners. The couple spent $9.7 million this week to buy a 11,000-square-foot , six-bedroom, 11-bath mansion in Jupiter, about 20 miles from the Mar-a-Lago compound where former President Donald Trump and former first lady Melania Trump are living.”

  32. New Age says:

    Ken, thanks for the info. Phone, you made me lol.

  33. Tim Knight says:

    If certain things go right I think we can contend this year.

  34. CavalierKong says:

    You know you’ve bought a big f%cking house when you need twice as many bathrooms as bedrooms, lol.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t get the 11 bathrooms thing. What a waste of space.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I thought the same thing at first. The place is 11,000 sq ft. They probably have half-baths (read toilets only) in some areas of the house for convenience. So there are actually probably like 15 bathroom areas including full baths, lol.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Watching TV in the main living room…

        I’ll be back in 20 minutes dear, gotta take a leak, and we forgot to build a bathroom on this side of the house, lol.

      • Ken says:

        I always thought he was full of shit

  35. The Flying Pig says:

  36. bailbondmike says:

    Dang, I had Bateman as a 2nd round WR cause I thought he was not that fast. He proved me wrong and see him going in the 1st now.

    “A few eyebrows were raised when Bateman measured 6-0 3/8 and 190 pounds on Thursday after being listed by Minnesota at 6-2, 210, but Bateman told NFL Network reporter Tom Pelissero, who was on assignment at the pro day, that he’s never weighed more than 200 pounds. Anyway, the subject quickly changed to Bateman’s speed when he clocked an impressive 4.39-second 40-yard dash. He also posted a 36-inch vertical jump and broad jump of 10 feet, 3 inches.”

    I never should have doubted the PIG! lol

  37. bailbondmike says:

    People were raving about Jamar Chase’s 40 time (4.38) but you know who ran the same 40 time?

    Terrace Marshall. He is 6-2 5/8, 205 pounds which is over 2″ taller than Chase.

    “Like Chase, Marshall notched a 4.38 40, and like Chase, he understandably declined a second run. Marshall also churned out a 10-5 broad jump, 39-inch vertical leap and 19 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press.”

    19 reps on the bench!

    I can’t believe he is not talked about more as a 1st round pick even if it is a bottom 1/3 of 1st.

  38. bailbondmike says:

    I just saw a 3rd new mock today that had Pitts going #4 to Atlanta. All of them had us taking Chase at #6 but I think Cincy takes him.

  39. Tim Knight says:

    If the draft is heavy with QBs early.
    1. JAX QB Trevor Lawrence (the consensus top pick)
    2. NYJ QB Zach Wilson (the consensus 2nd QB)
    3. SF QB Mac Jones (rumors are they like him)
    4. ATL QB Justin Fields (Matt Ryan will be 36 in May)
    5. CIN WR Ja’Marr Chase (makes sense with the LSU connection)
    6. MIA ?

    I’ve also been hearing that Teven Jenkins could jump Penei Sewell as the top tackle.

    • steveccnv says:

      Lol, just watched film study on him and game tape, he’s the real deal

      • Tim Knight says:

        You talking about Jenkins? They did an in depth piece on him on NFLN. He’s going top 10. Some think the Jets might take him if they’re sticking with Darnold.

  40. steveccnv says:

    Tim you asked what my problem was with the trade, I said value.

    Xs and Omar out yesterday, Hyde basically says the same thing

    • Tim Knight says:

      Not sure what you’re referring to?

      • steveccnv says:

        After the trade back from 3 I said I didn’t like what we got in return. The jets traded from 6 to 3, for Darnald and gave up 3 2nds, we only go a 2023 1st and 2022 3rd.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Oh okay. It doesn’t really bother me. A 1st round pick down the line is a nice chip to have. I think a lot of it has to do with cap space. We have “5” 1st round picks the next three years; 2-1-2. A 1st and a 3rd is probably close in value to three 2nd round picks.

        At the end of the day, we were cool with the deal which we initiated.

  41. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, Scott Pioli just praised the Dolphins trade. So let me ask you this, Scott Pioli or Omar and Hyde? LOL

    • steveccnv says:

      Omar praised it, because he’s a racist, Hyde said the trade value wasn’t good.

      There’s a difference between a good trade and good trade value

  42. olddolphan says:

    YOUNG STANGER: Your 3:17 post says Mr. “POOP-ART” believes our top 2 needs in the draft are:
    1) Edge Defender
    2) Running Back
    3) Wide Receiver
    4) Offensive Line
    —————————————-
    WELL, the “POOPSTER” may have our Top 4 needs listed, but NOT in the right order. I’d SWITCH his #1 and #3 listings and place WR #1 and Edge Defender #3. I’m OK with RB at #2 and O-Line at #4 as long as we snare an O-Lineman no later than the 3rd round. (Just noticed I put “top 2 needs on the first line instead of “our top 4 needs.” If I could only type better!!)

    ANYWAY, it’s looking more and more like our first pick may be the Heisman Trophy winner, and NOT Mr. Chase out of LSU. I would be JUST FINE with that.
    —————————————
    My boss at the certification service just hired 3 more people to handle our increased business. In about 2 weeks I’ll be heading to a very important convention, assuming covid virus rates DON’T increase substantially by what we used to call “Tax Day.”

    Y’all have a great evening! The Old Dolfan is OUT!

    • mf13ss says:

      Mr. Campbell, you’ll be happy to know that I’ll be having an O-Lineman within my first 3 rounds, when it’s all said and done.

  43. mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 1, 2021 at 6:55 pm
    If the draft is heavy with QBs early.
    1. JAX QB Trevor Lawrence (the consensus top pick)
    2. NYJ QB Zach Wilson (the consensus 2nd QB)
    3. SF QB Mac Jones (rumors are they like him)
    4. ATL QB Justin Fields (Matt Ryan will be 36 in May)
    5. CIN WR Ja’Marr Chase (makes sense with the LSU connection)
    6. MIA ?

    I’ve also been hearing that Teven Jenkins could jump Penei Sewell as the top tackle.
    —————–
    In THIS scenario, I’d be going for Kyle Pitts @ R1P6.

    Know what I’ve been hearing? Rashawn Slater could jump Penei as the top Tackle.

    Just remember, y’all… it’s smoke season.

  44. mf13ss says:

  45. steveccnv says:

    Kroger has closed some supermarkets in Southern Cali, because of the $5 per hour hero pay there the commie Govt put into law

  46. mf13ss says:

    Adam Schefter@AdamSchefter 4m21s
    Filed to ESPN: Miami Dolphins trading Pro-Bowler CB Xavien Howard and 2021 2nd rounder (#36) to the Arizona Cardinals in exchange for 2021 first-rounder (#15) and 2022 first-rounder. Cardinals finally replace Patrick Peterson and Dolphins continue to stack for the future.
    —————–
    WOW!!! We’re still making moves?!!

  47. Mike E. says:

    We might be going for Patrick Surtain II

  48. CavalierKong says:

    I hate april fools day

  49. mf13ss says:

    APRIL FOOLS!!!

  50. Tim Knight says:

    I’m a big fan of Parsons but if Pitts is there at #6 hard not to take him. This game is about mismatch nightmares. Most teams can’t cover him. You play a 12 offense with two TEs and they put a corner on Pitts, now you run against the light defense.

    • mf13ss says:

      I agree, Tim. Think about it… we’ve not seen a prospect like Pitts (size, speed, catch-radius) since Megatron (Calvin Johnson)… screw the idea of a TE, he’s a WR, in essence.

      • mf13ss says:

        Same with Gesicki… he’s a WR who plays TE. Both are ‘fair’ blockers, but they are total mismatch nightmares. Imagine them together?!!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah Gesicki has improved his blocking since he entered the NFL. Pitts is adequate and willing. But it’s about their prowess in the passing game as receivers. How do you cover them?

      Pitts could go before #6 but we have other other options. #6 really is a sweet spot in this draft. Don’t be surprised if we draft RT Teven Jenkins – Tua’s blind side like you’ve been saying. This guy has impressed and may have leap frogged Sewell.

  51. mf13ss says:

    Being serious, I PRIDE myself on accurate reporting from people I trust… I think y’all know that, which is why the joke worked on the ONE DAY I funk with peeps.

    I will NEVER funk with anyone, other than this ONE DAY!

  52. mf13ss says:

    Armando wrote a piece today, imagining the worst case scenario, where both Pitts and Chase go before us, according to a new mock (was it McShay’s?). Hey, I’m cool with getting one of the top receivers @ R1P6, regardless. We’re in a position where we can’t lose, IMO.

    • mf13ss says:

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Armadillo is a putz.

      • mf13ss says:

        It’s smoke season, and NFL franchises rely on their loyal beat writers to blow smoke. At least Armando can blow smoke… some of these other beat writers… not sure what they blow… not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  53. New Age says:

    MF13,

    That was the best prank I’ve seen in quite a while! Congrats!

  54. pheloniusphish says:

    Awesomeness….

    • Krishna says:

      Lol….not sure what that was about, but totally agree!

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Tull was a great experimental rock band. First concert I ever went to…1977 at the old RayJay stadium in Tampa. 38 Special opened, Johnny and Edgar Winter cancelled, Robin Trower played some awesome guitar solos, then Tull headlined.

  55. Tim Knight says:

    We can still get Edge, WR and RB with #18, 36 and 50. 😉

    It’s funny, I almost feel like fans think we only have one good draft pick. LOL

  56. Tim Knight says:

    Young players especially highly drafted players should get better.
    LT Jackson
    LG Flowers
    C Matt Skura
    RG Kindley/Hunt
    RT Jenkins

    What was that we said about depth on the OL?
    Deiter
    Davis
    Kindley/Hunt
    ?

  57. Tim Knight says:

    Signing DT John Jenkins shows we’re all about the trenches.
    DL – Talented and deep
    ED – We need some special
    ILB – Baker/McKinney is good stuff
    CB – We’ve got top shelf talent
    S – Solid not special

  58. Mike E. says:

    Good one M, I fell all over that one!

  59. steveccnv says:

    Cap down to 7m, but don’t see anyone new on the top 51. Weird because that 2.4m less is about what Jenkins is getting

  60. steveccnv says:

    Jenkins was able to log 479 defensive snaps with Miami over 16 games that season 2019. And now, after a one-year stop in Chicago, Jenkins returns.

    30 a game is pretty good depth

  61. bailbondmike says:

    M13, you got me hook, line and sinker this morning catching up. lol Still hadn’t had my first cup of coffee thinking that was not a bad trade and we are going to get Surtain or Horn.

    A few posts later, I was like dammit, 364 days from now I am not going to fall for this shit! lol

  62. steveccnv says:

    Watching Pitts highlights Surtain kept closer than anyone, but was sill no match

  63. Rhino says:

    MF13, timing is everything. Well Done! (Waiting until late in the day).

  64. Rhino says:

    Watched NFLN breakdown on Chuba Hubbard…

    mid-season there was a lot of love for Hubbard around here. This segment was a great reminder of why …

    “Football player” to get to 2nd level, then “10.5 100yd track star” from that point on.

    Could be the kind of ‘value’ pick that makes him an early 3rd rd steal!

  65. Rhino says:

    One final comment before getting to work:

    I’ve been clear on Parsons at 6 … However … the more I look at the depth in this draft…

    Trade back to #8 and get Car 3rd round (#73) would give us 6 picks in first 82 (and 2 per rds 1-3). Of course this require competition fir a 4th QB in top 6 picks). I think Atl waits until 2nd or 3rd rd if they draft a QB. I think they also might trade back and rob our chance to do the same. But…

    Atl w/o tradeback I think take Surtain III
    Cincy takes Sewell (idiots not to after Burrow injury)
    Trade up team takes QB
    That means only Det is before us with ALL of our rumored targets still on the board.

    The price teams are willing to pay for QB this year (and risk future drafts) has created a perfect opportunity for Fins. There are a lot of guys who have first rd grades that will get pushed to 2nd because of the QB frenzy… which means some talent subsequently gets pushed to early 3rd rd…. Car 3rd rd pick is top 9 of the rd… we could seriously end up with a ‘starter’ with that pick.

  66. David Collins says:

    Steve, Krogers is a not so shining example of corruption, and corporate greed, if they cant keep their uniformed minions broke and stuck in dead end jobs, they close the store down and stick it to the taxpayers and franchisees instead, SMH

    i hope Krogers never reopens, no big loss, we need to get back to mom and pop businesses, and supporting our local farmers, instead of deep pocket corporate weenie heads , trying to keep the minimum wage slaves chained up

    • steveccnv says:

      Would those be the mom and pop stores your commie governors ran out of business with the lockdowns?

      It’s funny to me how most people on here have the same general opinions on things like lockdowns, immigration, riots, but some have no problem electing the assholes creating all of this shit most are against.

  67. David Collins says:

    i have some self employed friends tell Me, its harder than ever to get employees to show up for their minimum wage jobs when they have $1400 checks, many are starting up small businesses, or investing in options.

    options are risky as hell, but if You can consistently hit most of them, the profits are enormous, and could dwarf any minimum wage job slaving away for corporate billionaries, that exploit workers for MORE profits

    • steveccnv says:

      Stimulus checks promote socialism and laziness, nothing new. Back in the 30s and 40s when the govt started welfare, they weren’t doing it to do anyone a favor, it was to gain power, that’s when blacks switched to the left.

      Do you not grasp the concept of a min wage job?

      Min wage jobs are for starting out in a field, then once you have some experience you move on to higher paying jobs.

      It’s not designed to be a career

  68. pheloniusphish says:

    In the words of Sheryl Crow, ‘🎼There goes the neighborhood…🎼”

  69. David Collins says:

    i notice Kroger stock is up for the month, 6, months, annual, etc, and employees are losing their jobs, think about that for a second, SMH

    the billionaires will dilute the stock if it gets too high, and take investors money, but wont open the stores if they cant get their cake and eat it too,

    screw Kroger, i wont invest in them

    • steveccnv says:

      It’s economics, if it’s not profitable you make changes.

      You see what I mean? No one here likes these big companies, yet those that allow them to highly profit (your politicians) keep getting elected.

      These large corporation’s profits highly increased during the lockdowns. Do you think that’s a surprise, that those paying off politicians benefitten?

      Wake up

      • David Collins says:

        i know its not a surprise, and didnt suggest that it was

        corporations feast on wealth inequality

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Krogers closed stores around Los Angeles because the LA council mandated a $5 per hour pay increase for “frontline workers.” This after Krogers had already voluntarily bumped wages by $2 per hour. The mandate made the stores unprofitable. In business you don’t keep doing unprofitable things. This is a result of Angelinos electing starry-eyed idiots who believe socialism works but know nothing about how business runs.

      As usual you are flailing about with a fraction of the information.

  70. steveccnv says:

    Jenkins is primarily known as a run-stopping defensive tackle.

    Anyone notice the situational players Flores is bringing in, on team friendly contracts?

    Last year we had some issues stopping the run, so we bring in a cheap Jenkins and trade for McKinney.

    We had trouble with short yardage, bring in Brown.

    Stopping Allen was an issue, get rid of 2 slow LBS.

    WR depth…

    With lots of depth, flexibility, and different types of players you can win different types of games, somewhat of a cheats blueprint

  71. steveccnv says:

    Adam Schefter
    @AdamSchefter
    ·
    4h
    Pro Day today for Oregon OT Penei Sewell.

    What does this mean?

    He’ll shoot up all draft boards for the next 2 days, after he runs a sub 4.5 40

  72. steveccnv says:

    Just to state the obvious

    Mike Garafolo
    @MikeGarafolo
    ·
    22h
    From
    @gmfb
    on NFL teams having to take 40 times with a grain of salt because no Scouting Combine means no level playing field for any of these times.

    There’s no penalty for cheating these 40 times, but some players benefit big time, so why not join the party?

    These posted 40 times are only for te fans anyways, unless your team didn’t attend in person.

    Each time will have someone with a stopwatch doing there own time.

    In the past we only saw guys from smaller Schools or those that didn’t attend the combine post these ridiculous 40 times, but this year everyone is doing it

  73. steveccnv says:

    Another U75 asshole trying to promote some BS, based on whatever fits his agenda.

    Paul Hembekides
    @PaulHembo
    ·
    44m
    Fun research project with
    @VinMasi
    – hit rate for 1st-round draft picks by position:

    C (100%)
    OT (60%)
    LB (55%)
    G (46%)
    EDGE (45%)
    QB (42%)
    RB (40%)
    S (39%)
    TE (39%)
    CB (35%)
    DT (35%)
    WR (27%)

    Determined by whether or not that player signed a 2nd contract with his draft team

  74. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!!

  75. New Age says:

    Steve,

    Good points on why we got rid of certain guys. No matter how our defense looked most of the time, if you get destroyed by running QBs and the Bills specifically? Some guys will be released. I like Flores and Grier specifically because you’re only safe if you consistently bring results

  76. bailbondmike says:

    Rhino, good call on Chubba though he is similar to what we have in Ahmed. Another good RB who will be there with Chubba later is Kylan Hill though he ran slower than I thought he would.

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