Once again I stress . . . Quality over quantity. We had plenty of draft capital last year and will continue to have added capital next season and beyond. The important thing, most paramount, is to find players that help this team NOW. I’d rather have 3 or 4 great players in this draft rather than acquiring more picks and lesser talent. We’re close Dolphins fans, I know some of you don’t feel that way but I believe we’re close to being legitimate contenders. Rumors are hot that we may trade up from #18 and I’m fine with that. I’m not worried about who is available at #6, there will be a player there who will help our team, whether it’s Chase, Pitts, Sewell or even Smith.
To me, our greatest needs are WR, pass rusher, RB and center. Those are my 4 top positions. You may feel differently, but that’s how I see it. If we do trade up from #18 I think the chance of drafting Najee Harris goes away, but getting Jovonte Williams later on sure would be a nice consolation. It also may hurt the chances of us getting one of the top centers in the draft, like Creed Humphrey, Landon Dickerson, Josh Myers or Quinn Meinerz. I think we can get one no matter what, we may just lose our choice of which one. I know we have Michael Deiter, but if we had any intentions of having him play C, we don’t pick up Matt Skura. I do think C is a priority.
I think on defense, adding Benardrick McKinney added another rangy tackler. #55 is all over the field making tackles, now he’ll have help with McKinney. AVG grew quite a bit last season, he was very productive, but will additional snaps add to his production or wear him down? Can Vince Biegel become what AVG was last season? I think we will be looking for help early in this draft, as early #18 or even earlier if we trade up.
We’re going to do another FMU Consensus Mock Draft, stay tuned for when it will occur, I would like to have maximum participation. Last year, the crew here was pretty darn accurate, it was pretty impressive! We went 10 for 10 on the first 10 picks, the Jets of course ruined our accuracy. Even if you don’t post often or have never posted here, please join us and watch for the Mock Draft date coming very soon!
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Finsmob Unleashed 
On this day in 1983 the Miami Dolphins draft Dan Marino
Three days from now, in 2021, the Miami Dolphins draft Najee Harris
At 18
YUP! @ R1P18.
Another thing we may not be aware of is Austin Jackson said he played both right and left side in college at tackle and has no problem with either side. You draft Sewell and let it play out. Now you have two young prototypes on either side. Who cares other than money down the line. If you’re dominant at your job you’ll get paid. Interior OL Joe Thuney just got a $80M contract in FA. We don’t have to worry about that for 3-4 years with any of our guys.
When they say you build around your young potential franchise QB, it doesn’t mean just weapons to get the ball to, it means allowing him the time to do so. If you can’t block plays it doesn’t matter how great the skill guys are. We just watched that in the Super Bowl.
Not going to disagree with ya… but the way I understand, Austin Jackson has never once played RT in his career… even dating back to high school.
He said that after we drafted him. It doesn’t matter to him. I have always found that to be ticky tack anyway. David Diehl who was a very good OL for the Giants back in the day could play anywhere. We make it seem like it’s rocket science. It’s not.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/20200424/dolphins-nfl-draft-first-round-pick-ot-austin-jackson-calls-his-ceiling-rsquoincredibly-highrsquo
This coming from a 20 year old dude not even legal to get an alcoholic beverage in public.
Forget which side or what position they play. We as novice fans have no idea. Oh I’d play him on this side or that side. Really? We know better than coaches who actually know them and coach them? Slow your roll. 😉
How about Derrick Henry, do you think he got better in time as a young dude?
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HenrDe00.htm
Appreciation post
Why is he not talked about like the other top skill players in this draft? Oh gee, because he’ll touch the ball twice as many times as the receivers? Yeah that makes sense. LOL
Cost over replacement
4-5 years?
No, you can find guys later in the draft that will bring somewhat close results, but not sure you get that from WR
Tim,
I’ve been saying that about OL and where they play for years. I do think some guys are just naturally better fits for one side or another. Physically, some dudes just have a hard time with L/R, but I think it’s very few.
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In the old days…ya know 20 years ago or so….the specific job of each OL positions was different. RG and RT were run guys because teams typically lined up their TE on the right side and ran to the power side. LG was a puller, so he could get to the power side. Nowadays with how NFL teams run their offenses, we’re seeing less of that specificity. I said a few weeks ago that I’ve had to change the way I evaluate players now, and it started with how I looked at OL. Things are just different these days. Every damn guy needs to be athletic and be able to move well. As an OT you need to be able to pass pro against great rush guys on either side, and we’re starting to see the money shift too. It’s not just LTs who are getting paid.
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Najee had some of the same benefits as Zach Wilson.
Both played against a lot of lessor opponents at a team level.
RBs on the Colts with Manning had some off the same benefits Najee had, in that the passing games were so good it opened up the run, add Bama’s line to that and you get Najee’s stats.
Not saying he isn’t worry, just that his stats like the others mentioned above are inflated.
If we take him in the 1st you won’t hear one negative word from me, I just think we can get better value from Williams at 36.
Two things that put Najee at the head of the class are his pass catching/blocking skills
When did the SEC become lesser competition?
Bama’s O steam rolled everyone.
7 of 13 games over 50 pts, 31 and 38 only games under 40.
Not much competition between the Bama O and any D they faced
As opposed to everyone else?
The SEC is as close to the pros as you can get. Doesn’t mean you have to draft there, but it matters. Is it just me or does Alabama and LSU etc. send prospects to the NFL every friggin year?
skip is point on!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMGJaDGOEpY
Dude when you need Skip Bayless to make your point, you’re probably making the wrong point. I’ve never seen him be right about anything. Ever.
I don’t care for the guy either, but on this subject? even a broken clock is right twice a day.
I think you meant to say even a broken record makes noise…
the feeling is mutual
If Trey Lance & Justin Fields are both there at 6, we should take one of them,
You should let the professionals in Miami handle this , this is way out of Your league
they will get the job done without your tarded ideas
David the R word that you have used is a hurtful term. and one that fits you very well.
R1P9: Waddle,
R1P18: Jalean Phillips
R2P4: Creed Humphry
R2P18: Javonte Williams
R3P18: Alim McNeill, DT, NCST
pick 114 from denver Walker Little T
pick 132 from cleve Dazz Newsome
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Miami also gets Denver 22 first rnder
i hate to break the bad news to u, but you are NOT the GM of Miami , lol
yea, its true
Can’t i speculate along with the rest?
I would take the Waddle/Williams combo
I really think we need one more defensive player early but solid first 5 picks in general
i think pitts and chase will both be gone at 6,
if that’s the case, what do we do?
try something you are qualified at, pick your nose
conversating with you is like scraping the bottom of the barrel here
Orob, just curious as to why You hate Grier,
but alot of right wingers hate minorities, , especially if the minority is much more intelligent than the hater
i sincerely hope you arent in that category
please don’t associate the “hate” word with me, you use it too loosely, i don’t hate anyone including you.
David, did you really shit in a macy’s dressing room?
im thinking if orob were the GM in Marinos rookie season, he would have traded him to the jets after his first start, he had three ints, unacceptable for a rookie qb, lol
Marino didnt make the HOF in his rookie season, but he made it
Lol. Even Skip isnt convinced about the point he’s making in that video.
John Elway, was a HOF QB AND super bowl champion,
but his rookie season he was the 26th rated QB , with an putrid passer rating of 54.4
shoud he have been traded away after a horrible rookie season? the broncs knew to be more patient on him, and it worked out well for them
Tom Brady, who many claim is the best QB of all time, is a hall of famer with many SB championships
his rookie season stats, he completed 33 percent , for a 42.4 rating, hardly the stats of even a starting QB
correction, hes not a HOF yet, lol wheres my coffee, but he will be
Guys, what time is the draft tonight? I’ll try to be on but I’m pretty packed until 8 EST.
Tim,
On WRs, players like Prescott instantly got better after getting a top WR. Players like Red Rocket also saw far greater success when their elite WR was on the field. Even with the changes to the game, a top RB is too dependent on a great OL for results in comparison. Even Henry can be shut down fairly easily by a good defense and has been the past two years. Just get a solid lead, and the stud RB on the other team suddenly doesn’t matter much. The WRs matter a lot more in those instances and never really lose their value based off the OL.
Think our mock is wens not tonight
MF13, thanks for posting the Najee episode! Just finished it (wasn’t online last night).
This was an angle about the transition to the pros that doesn’t seem to be considered too much: the stress of the non-football things. Also shows the maturity that is important because without it the money and fame can undermine the focus of an immature 22 year old.
The last episode they mentioned the mentoring of Lynch, so it was cool to see how they focused the last 6+ minutes on that on-going relationship. Last line: “wherever I go, just get this over with and get this shit started”. lol I could feel his ‘drive’ throughout the episode. If he isn’t worth a first round pick, then the NFL should just ban RBs from the first round as a rule. LOL. Whether or not Miami gets him, someone will take him in the first round and it terrifies me to think it will be a team in our division (or conference).
Najee is Daniel Thomas 2
He very well could be, that’s why I’m not drafting him in the 1st.
He could also be a version of Henry, that isn’t quite as brutal to DBs, but more agile and better all around.
If teams think he was close to Henry he’ll go mid-first.
For me to be a 1st rounders you better be someone that can take over a game, he’s not that like Barkley and Zeke
Guys like Henry, and Jim Brown ran over people, so their upright running style worked.
Erick Dickerson at 6’3″ had a different style, he was more elusive and great at reading holes.
Think Najee is somewhere in between the tall bruisers and the tall elusive backs.
Tweeners seem to have trouble in the NFL, if they aren’t great at something running the ball.
This might be the case with Najee, he could be another Drake, but a little better between the tackles, or a little better Malcolm Brown
You are just asking the Dolphins to disappoint you at this point…
Or he’s thinking realistically.
None of these draftees are free of the bust label.
OTs seem to be the safest lately, but there’s been your Robert Galleries and Tony Mandarich’s
I don’t think proclaiming some one is a bust already and saying the possibility of some one being a bust are the same thing
The Skip comments above from his video are very similar to what was said about Brees after SD selected Rivers.
It’s not meant to be more than opinion, but the opinion is, if you’re unsure about your QB you should give him some competition.
Just a different point of view, both opinions, the one for drafting another and keeping Tua each have their positives.
I’d take the playmaker this year, but I can see why some would draft a QB at 6.
People get so narrow-minded with what they think is right, that they don’t consider the other sides POV
Discuss
6: R1 P6 WR Ja’Marr Chase – LSU
18: R1 P18 EDGE Azeez Ojulari – Georgia
36: R2 P4 EDGE Joseph Ossai – Texas
50: R2 P18 RB Najee Harris – Alabama
81: R3 P17 DL Alim McNeill – NC State
156: R5 P12 C Drake Jackson – Kentucky
231: R7 P3 OT Alaric Jackson – Iowa
258: R7 P30 TE Nick Eubanks – Michigan
I hate Ojulari in the 1st, too much of a project in how we’d use him.
IMO Ossai is a reach too.
Najee at 50 is a steal, but very slim chance he’s there
Your draft board must stop at about a dozen players….lol
The players at 18-40 are all about the same. None of the players can escape the “reach” label
That might be the benefit of trading down and then trading up from 2B or 3rd round later
If you can have 4 players in that 2nd round range, but you have to take one in the first round, that’s a heck of a draft
When we get to 18, unless parsons is still on the board, everyone will feel like a reach
If we know one thing about our FO, it’s that they don’t put all their eggs in 1 basket.
Drafting Najee in the first would kind of go against that thinking.
They traded back to 6, because they believe the guy at 6 and an additional 1st was better than the pick at 3.
They didn’t trade up to get Tua last year.
Minimize the risk by giving yourself more options.
A trade down from 18 might be enough for them to select Najee at the end of the first
Any way you look at 18 it always feels like a bit of a reach
I feel like Harris is the safest pick there to be honest
The one player I see there usually that I also feel like is a good playing is Barmore, but I’m not sure we will look DL early
If we end up trading down, I still think Harris might be the pick with the next pick. Whatever we acquire might help us move up from the 3rd round or in the 2nd to address other positions
Highly attainable draft wants
Pitts/Chase only with pick 6 or trade down to get Smith/Waddle/Parsons/Penei
18 with a receiver already drafted Parsons/Owusu, or if Parsons with pick 1 take a receiver, or trade down to get 1 of top 3 needs
36 with receiver and Edge drafted get RB, if one of the 3 positions not drafted yet get it
I’d also be OK with Treven Jenkins at 18.
Any of these 3 combos would be great without trades:
Pitts/Chase
Jenkins/Parsons/Owusu
Najee/Williams
With trades any of these 3:
Waddle/Smith/Parsons/Jenkins/Najee/Rousseau/Owusu/Williams
Guys like Ojulari, Paye, and some other Edge guys are too much of a risk in the first.
Piggy thanks for reminding me it’s just Tuesday lol.
Steve, I think people narrow their POV because some ideas seem incredibly nonsensical. We just drafted a QB at 5 and he hasn’t even had a full year of experience. So you use a #6 the very next year for competition? That sounds either trolly or stupid to me, just being honest.
Why did you bring in the experienced Brisset if you wanted your competition between a rookie and 2nd year guy? Who wastes draft picks like that? Two top 10 picks for QB? It shows you’re terrible at evaluation and what GM wants to advertise that to the owner? Any owner since you will be looking for another job soon?
Thinking outside the box is fine but there should be logical reasoning involved especially if. I one has ever done it. I’d feel like the fool I was if I left Chase or Pitts for #7 because I wanted ‘competition’ for Tua. It makes zero sense but maybe someone can explain it without saying Tua was a mistake? Any takers?
I’m there with you, but there’s the group, that says you keep taking a QB until you find your guy.
I can’t say I blame them.
Do you want to give Tua 3 or 4 years? Some say no
Flores seems to have found his guy, the media has other thoughts
I usually say 3 years
But by the end of 2021, we will alll have a much better idea
Great news, gets rid of that big contract we didn’t need to pay
I forgot about flowers
Does this mean we might take OL earl?
Steve,
I used to consider that thought process and liked it. But then I noticed no employed GM ever does that and ex-GM talking heads didn’t when they were employed decision makers. I’m not saying Tua will be great and ORob might be right about him. I’m saying no GM will ever risk his job that way. It’s too good of a gig, too big of a risk. If the guy is average at best, do like Cincy, Dallas, etc and surround him with as much talent as possible to offset your mistake lol.
I never liked it, even though you could say it worked for SD, depending on if you’d rather have Brees or Rivers
So Kindley goes to his natural position of LG, wonder if a tell has come out and maybe we’re now looking at Penei?
Jenkins makes a lot more sense at 18 now or even Vera-Tucker
I think the question is whether you want Hunt inside or outside?
I don’t really trust Beasley but this is what he’s saying
LOL, the only one of the top players I figured we had very little chance of selecting if there was Sewell, and now the Fins have made that a real possibility too.
So right now we legitimately could be taking at #6 – Pitts, Chase, Parsons, or Sewell…or we could be trading down and possibly still getting one of those guys or Smith, Waddle, or someone else. I love this regime.
So basically we don’t know anything
Yeah, lots of options, and not afraid to trade down.
There’s several good OTs in this draft, but how many can play RT, besides Sewell and Jenkins?
Jenkins at 18 would be my hope, if they really are going to select an OT, but when do we select Edge and RB?
We could, just have comp between Fluker, Hunt and Davis, but if Hunt is really being pushed to OG, then Davis or Fluker
So did trading Flowers save us 9 mil?
I’m hearing 8m. The signing bonus from last year may have 1m each for 2021 and 2022, so 8m
17m under now
Cheers
With Flowers traded Sewell has to be one of our top choices.
Lock it down as we take Pitts, Chase or Sewell at #6 unless trade down for crazy QB money.
Yes agree, depending on how they feel about Sewell
I love it when a plan comes together.
The plan that everyone in the organization shuts the f up, and doesn’t let anyone one in on who we’re picking?
5 QBs, 4 receivers, 4 OTs including Teven, 3 CBS, and 2 OLBs.
That’s 18 we can get 2.
Can you imagine if we take some one like Jenkins at 18
And then take a center on the late 2nd or 3rd round
and then our line ends up being
Jackson, Kindley, R1, Hunt, R2
And Hen we basically rebuilt the OL in 2 years
I think this is a real possibility
To go with the OL Pitts, Chase, Smith or Waddle and Najee or Williams.
The O would be set
Yeah but that means no defense in the draft
I think it’s possible but if we are talking OL, a RB and a weapon there doesn’t leave much room for a pass rusher
Correct, C might get pushed back to 81, RB to 50, and take an Edge at 36.
With Teven we may not need a top RB this year, we could wait a year
The Flying Pig says:
April 27, 2021 at 12:14 pm
So basically we don’t know anything
LMAO!
This will infuriate the defensive minded guys but what if it falls like:
6. Pitts
18. OT Jenkins
36. RB Williams
50: OC Humphrey
3rd round pick: WR Tylan Wallace or Amon St Brown
That’s gonna give defenses headaches
Where have we heard this before?
It’s weird to say, but I really don’t think the Dolphins can screw up the 1st round SBNation
I understand that some of your brains might not be firing when you read this headline. The words weird to say, but I don’t think the Dolphins can screw up consecutively, which is not something that many of us have seen nor thought about before.
It’s like preparing so well for a test, that all you can do is ace it.
Our FO has put us in position to have a successful draft
Get a top 4 at receiver, OT, RB, OC or Edge.
Get 4 of these and we’ll be ready to win a playoff game
From PFF’s mock draft
6. DENVER BRONCOS (VIA MIAMI, VIA PHILADELPHIA): QB TREY LANCE, NDSU
Dolphins receive No. 9, No. 71 and a 2022 first-round pick
Broncos receive No. 6 and No. 156
The Broncos have a tough decision with three quarterbacks already off the board, but they shoot up for North Dakota State’s Trey Lance. The roster is too good to waste on another year of Drew Lock. Lance needs to figure out his accuracy but has every trait required to play quarterback at the highest level.
— Seth Galina
9. MIAMI DOLPHINS: WR JAYLEN WADDLE, ALABAMA
Dolphins receive No. 9, No. 71 and a 2022 first-round pick
Broncos receive No. 6 and No. 156
As a result of their three trades, the Dolphins netted two future first-rounders from San Francisco, two third-rounders (one this year and one next year) and exchanged their first-rounder in 2022 for Denver’s (which is likely to be better). They gave up the third pick in the draft, which meant less to them than it did San Fran and the 123rd pick. Not too shabby.
Oh, and they get who many believe to be the best wide receiver in the draft in Jaylen Waddle, who is reunited with former teammate Tua Tagovailoa. They will likely have to improve to keep the same-ish record as they had in 2020 due to all of the turnovers they generated defensively, but they are well on their way to doing so with the sharp moves they’ve made.
— Eric Eager
I don’t like that we wind up with Waddle waddle, but that is because of the Alabama stink.
Waddle’s NFL comparison is Tyreek Hill.
Not quite as fast, but
taller and bigger, and every bit as dynamic and plays the slot or outside.
Sign me up right now for that trade and Waddle at 9
The Dolphins are entertaining the idea of moving 2020 second-round pick Robert Hunt from starting right tackle to guard and signing a right tackle in free agency, sources told ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler. Solomon Kindley, the Dolphins’ 2020 fourth-round pick, received significant playing time as a rookie and returns as a capable starting guard option along with recent free-agent signing D.J. Fluker.
We may sign an OT in FA, if we don’t draft one
Seems that post would make more sense if sent out 3 months ago. I’m smelling Dolphins smoke. Won’t matter if we take Sewell, but otherwise will be in the OT draft hunt after.
When you get traded for a swap of late round draft picks….. pretty much means you were worth your salary but not much more. But if your services are worth $10 mil a year that’s not too bad.
Salary and cap space.
He was expendable, so the trade works.
Since he was an FA, we paid only cap space and money
It’s weird to say, but losing Flowers changed my thought process a lot. It says we weren’t confident in any of our RT options previously on the team. That makes Sewell and the other OTs more valuable to me.
The OT FA market is pretty terrible at this point. Might as well draft a long term solution. I would pick Pitts if available but even Chase has close equivalents that makes me want OT more than WR. Sewell has climbed to option #2 when he was once at best #3. Just my thoughts.
They could still set up with Davis/Fluker, but have a feeling they won’t. Doesn’t mean OT at #6 though.
I liked Flowers but he was making too much, especially since we have guys on the roster to replace him
New Age – there are a couple of tackles worthy after Sewell. Slater, Darrisaw and Jenkins
I have seen Slater going before Sewell in a few NFLCom mocks.
I’m with pigster
1Pitts/Chase, 2 Sewell/Slater 3 NC RB
He won’t. His arms are too short. He won’t be the first tackle selected, it will be Sewell
Do/can Slater and Darrisaw play RT?
Yes
Jenkins can too
I think Hunt had better man up and secure the RT spot,
take sewell at 6, Slater at 18
OK caught up, so we trade Flowers to the WFT, now they move Hunt to RG, move Kindley to LG, Jackson at LT, Creed Humphries at C and Sewell at RT.
does that sound about right?
That would be the line after going max-OL in the draft.
Didn’t we get Flowers from the WFT?
He was an FA, that played for WTF in 2019
Played for Baltimore in between.
Good, no candy early
6: R1 P6 TE Kyle Pitts – Florida
18: R1 P18 LB Micah Parsons – Penn State
36: R2 P4 OT Teven Jenkins – Oklahoma State
50: R2 P18 RB Javonte Williams – North Carolina
81: R3 P17 WR Amon-Ra St. Brown – USC
156: R5 P12 DL Tyler Shelvin – LSU
231: R7 P3 C Trey Hill – Georgia
258: R7 P30 EDGE Jamar Watson – Kentucky
Sold
This works out
And if Pitts gone , insert Chase
Chase was actually gone
Both Pitts and Chase will be there, since this trade today makes others think we want Sewell.
QB at 4
Pig — make it happen.
you are hired.
What happened to Najee Thomas?
I mean Daniel Harris????
shit!
Not sure trading Flowers means we now draft OL more than it was always a possibility. I think it means the young guys already on the team will be starting. Kindley at LG and Hunt at RG.
I don’t get the thinking that trading away one of our guards will make other teams think we are going to draft an OT.
Why would they think that?
I don’t know. Steve said it.
Hunt to RG, open spot at RT
Me trying to settle my nerves before the draft
Okay so now ORob is a Najee Harris hater with negative comparisons. And the list goes on…
When Tua hands off to Harris next September
LOL
I don’t hate anyone Tim, i just don’t think you take a RB at 18. and he scares me running behind a great OL with subpar opponents, he will be at a disadvantage in the NFL and don’t give me that crap that “he played in the sec” they only had 4 tough games out of 12.
I was just BB/JK.
and why would you say Daniel Thomas is a negative comparison? didn’t you have a DT3 fat head when we drafted him?
Yes but we know he didn’t pan out the way we hoped he would. Can’t get them all right.
we still have either Deiter or Davis who can play LG, we just got DJ Fluker who can be plugged in at RG Hunt at RT, i’m sure Kindley will land one of the G spots.
it may not be necessary to draft OL early.
No, but if Jenkins is there at 18 I’m taking him
Cameron Wolfe
@CameronWolfe
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44m
7th round pick swap will complete Ereck Flowers deal. Miami gets 244, sends out 258.
Clear Miami wanted to move on from FA mistake in Flowers. High gtd $$ made it hard to move him so they had to pay $6M of $9M to get free of rest.
Maybe we only save 2m
That’s it
A swap of the 7th rounders!
Well that makes it sound not as cool. We’re paying them to take him. Washington just ponies up $3 million, which basically becomes what we could have paid to have him play for us versus the trade.
They wanted Flowers gone.
They found rookies last year they are satisfied with to replace him.
What rookies? Jackson, Kindley and Hunt were already starting.
Hunt wasn’t starting right away until Flowers got hurt and Kindley moved to LG. Hunt play some RT and RG. During the offseason we talked about an OL starting lineup without Flowers. The coaches feel good about last year’s rookies so Flowers was no longer needed. He was a stopgap just like Van Noy was on defense.
I at least never had a doubt that all 3 would be starting in the opening game this year. And just above you said they are satisfied with the rookies. Are they or not?
Some good data points
https://sports.yahoo.com/five-q-bs-are-expected-to-go-in-the-first-round-of-the-nfl-draft-not-all-of-them-will-succeed-014111872.html?src=rss
We were already talking about Jackson moving to RT if we draft Sewell before the Flowers trade. So drafting an OT has nothing to do with Flowers. It’s always been an option.
At least makes it even more clear that was always an option. They just created a hole on the OL on purpose.
No they drafted Kindley and Hunt last year and Hunt looks to be moving to RG and Kindley to LG where he played when Flowers got hurt. This team goes young when they can.
And if Hunt goes to G….. we have a hole. Unless it is Davis or Fluker, but they are not long-term.
Davis played at RT more than Hunt did last year. The team likes Davis because he can play every position and can start.
Will bet you we take either a T or a G in draft. And talking first 4 picks. That’s what changed with the Flowers trade.
Continuing from last evening… but if we draft Sewell (a once-in-a-generation talent who has at least played RT before), why would we move the lesser in Jackson to protect Tua’s blindside? Seems like a waste to have Sewell play LT for our southpaw QB, does it not?
Try to convince me that THAT would be a wise move, man.
They’ll figure it out who plays where. Jackson played both left and right OT and guard in college. I posted an article of him saying that last night. He also said he doesn’t have that kind of ego that he must play left side. He’s also still very young at 21 years old. It’s not like he’s been playing one position for many years and now he’d have to make that switch. Jackson has a big upside. We’ll see how they go about it.
Fair enough. The coaches will render their decisions as they see fit.
I’m stumped… truly stumped. I feel like Maul in “The Clone Wars, Season 7”, where I KNOW something big is going to happen shortly (Order 66), but not knowing who, what, where, when, or how. Feel like we’re going to be movers — up and down the boards — during the Draft.
Only thing I truly feel in my bones? We’re going to come away with Najee Harris. No, not because I love him that much (I do), but because he’s instant Offense for us (running, blocking, and receiving), and he and Tua are tighter than tight.
Dolphins running back Myles Gaskin averaged more yards running off the right side this season (5.9 yards per carry) than any other gap according to the charting of Pro Football Focus. Ahmed averages 6.1 per carry working off the right side to the perimeter. And Hunt has tallied 566 snaps at right tackle this season (with an addition 10 as an extra right end). The past month has seen a dramatic uptick in his play and, as a result, a dramatic uptick in the Dolphins’ ability to run the football. Miami as a team has rushed for 104, 110, 80 and 250 yards in their last four contests; nearly matching the number of 100 yard rushing performances the team crafted in their prior ten games this season (4).
If Robert Hunt is the straw that stirs the run game drink, then the Las Vegas Raiders better come prepared on Saturday — because odds are we’ll see the Dolphins continuing to see how much they can push their rookie right tackle into pushing the ground game to new heights.
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We don’t really know they want to move Hunt inside. Why taking a G is possible too.
Doubt it
Unlikely but possible. Depends on whether they want to move Hunt inside.
Hunt also came in a lot as a 6th OL and even tackle eligible where he forgot to report twice calling back two TDs. Rookie mistake. I believe he and Kindley both did that on the same play with that kicker/punter play we’ve run a few times.
Remember too that Jackson missed a few games last year with a foot injury so the OL did quite a bit of shuffling last year. Most teams deal with that every year.
Stanger, not sure what you’re questioning me on. I’ve been saying because the coaches are happy with last year’s rookie class on the OL, Flowers was expendable. I don’t think that changes anything as far as adding a tackle in this year’s draft. I thought that was always an option with Flowers still here.
And I completely agree with that. Was trying to point out with the Flowers cut we are more likely to go OL cause we have a hole. That’s it. Whole football world is talking about us maybe taking Sewell now after all.
Yeah because they don’t seem to know how things went on the OL last year. It just gives them new stuff to talk about. I’ve been mentioning tackle could be 1st round all offseason. I’ve said many times that RT Teven Jenkins could be our pick at #18. We do that and Hunt is likely moved permanently to guard. Nothing has changed for me.
Thought Flores and Grier hid their plan well on this, but not from you. Well done! They take Jenkins and will be a call for the ages.
I just don’t think Flowers had anything to with us drafting a tackle. Sewell could be the pick at #6 or someone other than Jenkins as well – Rashawn Slater, Christian Darrisaw or Alijah Vera-Tucker who is considered a guard at the next level due to short arms for tackle. If we drafted him at #18 Hunt might be our RT. Lots of options. Maybe even 2nd or 3rd round. We also have Fluker in the mix now.
You are all over it Tim. To me cutting Flowers meant Hunt is moving inside. Otherwise you have Flowers, Kindley and Hunt at guard with 2 spots. Just sorta of simple musical chairs math on that. And if Hunt stays at RT you don’t need a T.
Who started this whole narrative that Tua won’t be able to succeed with our Dolphins, unless we surround him with his college WRs (or the like)? That’s right, the MEDIA.
Quite honestly, Tua was probably at 50% for us last year [less than a year removed from a career-threatening injury, no offseason, no camp, no strength-training (COVID year)… being he was REHABBING!].
Albert Wilson and Allen Hurns opted-out (COVID), and by the time Tua was starting for us, the injury bug was beginning to hit our WR corps… and Tua went 6-3, despite it all.
Throughout it all, we ALMOST made the playoffs (playoffs???)!
The biggest possible smokescreen that’s been created? That we need to draft a receiver with our first pick in order to help the ‘wanna-be pro’ in Tua: I’m no longer buying it! Tua did VERY well, in lieu of his/our circumstances last year. Imagine him at 100% this year! We’ve got a decent WR corps, believe it or not.
I’m no longer sure we’re seeking a WR with our first pick. And that we dropped one pick behind Cincy (who could very well take Penei Sewell before us), I don’t think Penei is our target, either.
We’ve got a Defensive-minded HC, came from the Patsies*, and the Patsies* have always valued their LBs more than anything else throughout the Belicheat* era (minus Tom Lady*, of course).
I now truly believe we’re targeting MICAH PARSONS
And if we trade down from R1P6 (looking at the Broncos @ R1P9… hopefully there’s still a QB on the board they covet), we’ll acquire additional resources to get our targeted players.
JMO
DON’T KNOW if we can acquire Jerry Jeudy in the process, but it’s worth a shot.
I agree with you on Tua. That’s typical offense is more sexy talk. Not so sure about your Jerry Jeudy trade scenario but it’s interesting and out of the box thinking.
I appreciate it, THANK YOU!
Even if we can’t pry Jeudy away from the Broncos, we could still get their R2P8. Man, that pick would come in VERY handy for us this year.
This is what is so cool about having two 1’s and two 2’s. So many options.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/ct-xpm-2012-11-21-ct-tribu-words-work-grammar-gripes-20121121-story.html
Sorry MF pet peeve
Don’t you EVER tell me “sorry” when you just educated me! I THANK YOU for that, Rockphin, truly! 😀
I will NEVER take offense to one who makes me smarter or wiser. #Respect, Rockphin!
Quite seriously, Rockphin… THANK YOU, bud!
This team has undying love for Davis, you guys refuse to see it, with Flowers we had 6 starters now we have 5 and Flukah. Kindley is just getting started he’ll be a great LG.
Davis as a starter is an option. Think a less likely one though.
Who knows Fluker might be viewed as a RG with Hunt at RT. I think I remember when Fluker was drafted that they said he’d be better playing in a phone booth rather than on the outside. I think it’s pretty obvious that OL has been a priority for the Grier/Flores regime and won’t be surprised if that continues. I also agree with you on Davis, he’s more valuable to the team than he is to most fans.
Who are you calling Flukah?!?!
That not nice
I know how to draw you out lol 👀🐽
Muthaflukah! I fall for it every time
I’d leave Kindley at RG and put Hunt at LG. Guards are becoming a little more interchangeable these days, but I think Hunt probably has a bit more mobility than Kindley. Fluker gives you options. They may still see Hunt as a RT and picked up Fluker to fill in for Flowers.
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Haven’t I been saying this shit for months if they draft an OT early?
That’s Fine but Kindley is getting into NFL shape now so who knows but he’s gonna be really good on whatever side he gets.
Yeah he’s a gamer.
I just said something very similar right above your post. I don’t get into which sides guys play on too much because the coaches will decide that based on what they think guys can and can’t do working with them in practice. I just want to see a solid starting 5. I think we have solid depth but need starters to take it to another level.
In light of Flowers being shipped out to the Washington Football Team (<– still feels strange to say that!), I'm not sure it's indicative of us drafting an OT.
I maintain we walk away with Smith and Harris. In no particular order.
Love Najee, like Smith
Smith will be falling, how far?
Parsons is rising
Not surprised you think that all because you were saying Flowers could be cut. You were basically right about moving on from him, just not an outright cut.
You remembered! It was never about Flowers’ play, is was always about his exuberant contract.
You were right. If the OL rookie class from last year didn’t impress the coaches, Flowers would still be here. But the plan to go young when we can seems to be trending nicely. 🙂
His contract was overtly and excessively happy?
Indicative of drafting OL it is. Doesn’t mean it actually happens though. Son might be right that Davis is the guy to take his place.
I leave you with my final Mock of the season
Team Picks
6: R1 P6 TE Kyle Pitts – Florida
18: R1 P18 LB Micah Parsons – Penn State
47: R2 P15 LB Joseph Ossai – Texas
50: R2 P18 DL Daviyon Nixon – Iowa
77: R3 P13 RB Javonte Williams – North Carolina
81: R3 P17 C Josh Myers – Ohio State
156: R5 P12 WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette – Iowa
231: R7 P3 FB Ben Mason – Michigan
244: R7 P16 P Max Duffy – Kentucky
Trades
Trade Partner: LA Chargers
Sent:
Round 2 Pick 4
Received:
Round 2 Pick 15
Round 3 Pick 13
THAT could work!
I’m a fan of Najee Harris as most of you know but I also really like Javonte Williams as well. Travis Etienne is also a quality RB prospect.
It’s kind of weird, the consensus is Najee Harris is perfect for the Steelers at #24 but it would be too early for us at #18. I’m not buying that at all.
I don’t think the Steelers re going to draft a RB I’m the first
This is the same team that had no problem letting Bell sit out a year bs they didn’t want to pay him. They will probably wait until the 2nd round
You might be right.
Let’s have Czonka announce all our picks this year
son,
Well, they plugged Kindley in at RG last year, so I’m not so sure why everyone is thinking he’s a LG in the NFL….maybe it was because they had Flowers at LG….I don’t know. He looked pretty immobile last year. Maybe he gets in better shape, drops a few pounds and better at movement skills. I’d imagine, if they really are looking at Hunt as a guard now that they work it out in practice. I don’t care who plays where. Start the best 5, but It’d be nice if we had a set five and stopped moving guys around. It helps to learn the tendencies of the guys playing next to you.
Gel-time… MOST important for any O-Line. Start the best 5 and get it on.
Kindley moved to LG when Flowers went down. They were all cross-trained like every team has to do because injuries happen. I’m just glad that we have young OL talent that looks promising and would not be surprised at all if we continue that to build around last year’s #5 QB. Great weapons are wants, protection is have-to-have.
The Steelers need serious OL help.
Agreed.
If they want to continue their tradition of SMASHMOUTH football, yes, they do. But if the idea is to get the ball out in under 2.x seconds (that’s where the game IS trending), not so much.
Najee Harris could very easily be their first target as an outlet option for Big Ben.
That was good stuff, man. It shows you how size and talent is good, but technique and chemistry is huge. The thing about Hunt and Kindley is they are naturally big, strong guys. When they become better football players and improve their conditioning, they could become dominant.
Kindley is not slow physically by the way, I think it’s sometimes mentally not reading the play fast enough. These two guys are promising along with Jackson. We threw them in the fire to speed up the process along with Tua. That was good stuff by the coaching staff. Young players are supposed to get better. Get them started early so you know what you have and get them ready to all take the next step.
Go Phins!!!
Yeay Team!
Ultimate highlights 2020
Gesicki’s name called a lot. Still think Goedert is the better all around guy. LOL
Tim,
Yeah, I thought Kindley looked okay at LG in the run game after Flowers went down….not so great at pass pro. I know folks think it’s his “natural position”, and it may be his most comfortable position. Like I said, they’ll figure out all this in practice. Hunt and Kindley can play both guard spots, I think.
Watch the video Rock posted. It focuses on the pros and cons of Kindley and Hunt. They’re both big, strong guys who have the physicality to play in the NFL, it’s now about improving their technique and becoming more seasoned with dissecting what the defense is doing. I’m excited to see last year’s rookie class overall in year two.
I think we can all agree on this. In this draft we need to come away with a playmaker on both offense and defense, and continuing to develop the OL.
Sometimes the current draft makes us forget about the development of the young players already on the team the last 3 years. They’re part of the team we want to see hold up that trophy. 🙂
The last two draft classes taking the next step is ahead of this draft. If those guys don’t take the next step, this draft won’t save that.
Tua is the key and he and everyone knows that. The QB is huge. We can still be a good team without him, but if he makes that big 2nd year jump, we could be in the AFC Championship Game.
As there is more than one way to skin a cat, I believe there are multiple pathways to success in this Draft. I don’t think anybody is really being argumentative with any other here, rather we see so many ways to win… and that is WINNING!
I wasn’t focused on argumentative, more about seeing the youth of the team becoming a better team. That’s all.
Mike E will call me out, but this is how I view the Grier/Flores regime. LOL
Phase I: Tear it down, create a new culture and add players that fit.
Phase II: With a lot draft capital get your QB, revamp the OL and defense.
Phase III: Continue to build on that and add playmakers.
Our offseason prior to the draft in FA and with trades in 2021 wasn’t flashy, but quietly good.
Tim,
I have no idea who that guy is doing that video, but he sucked. He got so many things wrong I stopped watching about 2/3 of the way through. On almost every play he talks about how bad Hunt’s feet are…and they are….but says how great he is. On one play, he talks about how smart Kindley is by holding one guy as he works his way to a second level block. The only problem is Kindley is the one being held, and he’s trying to disengage from the defender and can’t….and was completely ineffective. On many plays, the dude talks about how great they do but their defenders still make the tackle. Give me a break. What a horrible video. Lol
Lol, I see that a lot
Okay, I also thought he wasn’t always accurate, but I saw what he was saying. You don’t think any player is that good so there is that. LOL
First, win our division. Second, MAKE the playoffs. We haven’t even done those things yet. This team still has a lot of work to do.
Have those videos rubbed off on you🤪
Use your own eyes not the commentary. 🙂
Why are so many of you looking to shoot shit down? LOL
The conversations have been really good but now it’s time for Debbie Downer shit I see. Sigh… 😉
Kwity Paye is not that good but everyone in the biz has him 1st round. Okay! LOL
You say use your eyes, then
Kwity Paye is not that good but everyone in the biz has him 1st round. Okay! LOL
Then you listen to what they say
Dead money on Flowers is 6m, we gained only a little over 3m in cap space, currently 10.1m
Fluker contract is in, at 850k 1 yr, so counts nothing against the top 51 as others not in the top 51 also have the same figure
I think it’s simply a youth movement. Didn’t need Flowers anymore. Jackson, Hunt and Kindley are the reason for this trade. When’s the last time we drafted 3 OL in the same draft and still have positive promise in their 2nd seasons?
These guys got key reps and snaps to get their pro careers going along with their #5 QB. 😉
Grier and Flores are doing it the right way. It’s not always perfect but they have been building the trenches and QB. Oh yeah… CB too because the way Belichick/Flores likes to play defense is press and man with blitz schemes. No easy catches.
We have been building up our secondary on a very high level the last two years. I don’t see us going DB early this year.
Direct hit
Lol
He had it coming
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Alright… LOL…
First off, Kwity Paye is NOT an “EDGE monster”. That’s a total misnomer of his game, Joe.
Lastly, Kwity Paye is NOT an “EDGE monster”. That’s a total misnomer of his game, Joe.
YES, I believe Kwity Paye to be a 1st-rounder… but NOT for US… and he is NOT an “EDGE” at the NFL level. He’s a tweener who doesn’t do anything excellently, but does a lot of things well.
I’m telling y’all, he’s Jared Odrick (that NOT a knock). We have too many of those on our team already, IMO.
We need PLAYMAKERS! Paye isn’t a playmaker.
Hope he goes rd 1, not at our picks
Parsons R1P6, Paye at R1P18. Draft all the WR and RB you want after that.
I’d rather trade out of 18 for a 2nd next year, than take Paye
Phelon I think it’s around 24 days I’ll be in Key West!
Outstanding. So mid- to late- May?
First weekend in June
Lol, have you been watching videos with Randy😉
Kwity Paye is a front 7 multiple player. He’s built like John Randle – very compact but bigger and faster physically. I personally like Paye. He fits our scheme at multiple front 7 positions. He measured in at 6-2.5 261 running a 4.54 at pro day. He’s a motivated individual (if you know his story), non-stop motor who will do whatever you ask him to do. Big upside with this guy, I think some of you are sleeping on him.
Think he’s sleeping most plays after the snap
When the fish in key west hear WY is coming
Something might get eaten
Don’t want to know what you plan to do with that fish🙄
Et that MF’r!
Or Eat!
We have many options. This is a pretty talented draft. Four picks in the top 50. 🙂
I don’t think it’s that talented, but there is talent where we need help, especially at the top
So basically what I said. LOL
The Flowers trade seems strange due to the very minimal cap savings. I guess they just want the young guys to play
Only thing that makes sense
Flowers trade is exactly what I wanted to hear. Building around Tua ids NOT done with skill positions but with the trenches (skill positions 2nd rd). Ladies and Gentlemen, we have grown ups in our Front Office. Building a ‘team’ means winning the trenches. Developing QB means winning the trenches. Trading Flowers PROVES our FO has a plan. We are going Parson/OL in 1st rd, then RB, WR in 2nd.
Not sexy, but definitely legit. Hunt is a Guard. Also wouldn’t be surprised with Eichenberg in 2nd and move to RT
The timing of the trade blows though. We got nothing and really gained nothing to do it. Why pay him the $6M bonus just to trade him to move a few spots at the end of RD7? I think it’s very questionable. No problem moving on with the young guys, but then just cut him and save the money
they probably won’t have room for him after the draft, get him out any way you can.
i don’t think you save money by cutting him, he hits your cap with his guaranteed
it’s great to build an offensive line however defense wins championships, look at the cowboys with a great offensive line couldn’t make the playoffs.
No, both win championships. You have to have a good offense as well as a good defense.
Chiefs didn’t win the SB in 2019 because they had the best defense, and the Bucs didn’t win in 2020 that way either. Both teams had some of the best offenses, the Bucs were better on D than the Chiefs though.
i’m a firm believer in a good run blocking OL, you want to make it to the top? play D and run the ball. pouring all your resources into the OL doesn’t make you a champion, see dallas.
the Bucs have a great D
Want
Pitts/Parsons/Harris/Cox
Get
Smith/Harris/Rousseau/Leatherwood
Twas the night before draftmas, when all thro’ the blog
the only thing stirring, was Davids macy’s log
The draft picks were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that Pitts soon would be there;
The piggy was nestled all snug in his bed,
While visions of Najee danc’d thru his head
Sonny – So instead of Cox you got Leatherwood? Seems like the same, no? 🙂
Lol
Mike stop the porn on this blog, you & son need to keep your leather & wood off this site
the chiefs didn’t win because of a great ol either, it was their te, wrs & qb,
They had a pretty good O-line too, they won because they have a very good coach, a great QB, good O-line, decent defense, but yes, great skill position players at WR and TE and good RB’s.
i really think SF blew that game, it was a crazy playoffs for them that year, falling behind the texans and titans, they were a soft team lucky to win it all, it didn;t fare well to them in tampa, their softness shined thru.
To make his trade to Washington from Miami official, OL Ereck Flowers restructured his contract whereby the Dolphins will pay $6 million in a signing bonus and Washington will pay a $3 million base salary, giving Flowers $9M fully guaranteed this year.
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so they saved 3 mil by trading him whereas they would’ve ate the whole 9m cutting him.
No, we only saved $2M, he has $8M in dead cap space, so we saved $2M this season
if so that’s better than zero,
evidently they missed on him, giving him that big contract, just like the josh rosen debacle, i still think rosen is better than tua.
this F.O. has made some mistakes, but no one is full proof, most of the time it’s a crap shoot. we should be better assessing a veteran OL, not saying Flowers was bad but he didn’t live up to his contract apparently.
Rob, we have one 1st RD pick on the O-line at the moment, Austin Jackson. Hunt was a 2nd, Kindley a 4th. How is that “pouring all their resources”? If we spend another first, that means we poured all our resources?
we should definitely make the OL better, hell yeah!
i’m hoping last years picks pan out.
instead of drafting najee or pitts we need to focus on D and the ol
T minus 36 hours
Who is the QB?
three years – 7,386 passing yards, 69 touchdown passes and 15 interceptions
tua blowvalowa?
Nope
as for hunt he was taken 39 overall, that isn’t chump change!
deiter was taken 78th overall.
jackson 18th overall
kindley was taken 111, and he seems to be the best value in relation to where he was drafted.
so yes we hve used valuable draft picks to bolster our ol
As of now it looks like Kindley to left G (where he played in college), Hunt at right G, and Fluker at RT (and of course Jackson at LT).
Our draft goals may not have changed at all if we consider “Flowers replaced by Fluker” on OL.
Getting depth could still be the goal. There’s no guarantee that Sewell would be available and if he were drafted would he feel comfortable at RT? If Sewell is available I believe we’d take him and figure out where to line people up.
But basically I see it as Fluker replacing Flowers and OL issues haven’t improved or deteriorated … they are the same.