Miami Dolphins 2021 Schedule

The 2021 schedule is out, and I think our much improved team should have an exciting season. I think we covered 2 serious spots that needed an upgrade. WR was the position I felt we just had to improve and drafting Jaylen Waddle accomplished that. The familiarity that Waddle and Tua have is just one small part of the equation, We so desperately needed a talent upgrade, and I think the type of receiver Waddle is is the perfect complement to our current WR corps. DeVante Parker has the talent, and we’ve seen him take over games. We’ve also seen him fight through nagging injuries and not be able to give the team his usual production. In free agency we signed former Texans WR Will Fuller. Well, Fuller has yet to play a full 16 game schedule, and hey, now we play 17! In 5 seasons, he played 53 games and missed 27. Hopefully Waddle will be the steady performer week in and week out. His home run ability from anywhere on the field will help Tua, because he can take a short pass a long way and can also take the top off the defense with his deep speed. Add in Preston Williams, Lynn Bowden Jr., Allen Hurns, Albert Wilson, Mack Hollins, Jakeem Grant, Kirk Merritt and Robert Foster and we have legit depth. Unfortunately for Jakeem Grant, Jaylen Waddle may push Grant off the roster because Waddle is an excellent return man in his own right. Grant was electric, but his bobbles on both punt returns and kick returns were hard to watch.

On defense we brought in exactly what we needed. Some say Jaelan Phillips is the best pure pass rusher in this draft. The best part about Phillips is he already has an arsenal of pass rush moves, he’s not just an “Underwear Olympics” thriller. He is fast, quick and explosive as well and did perform well at his pro day, but his technical skills are what separate him from some of the others. The trade to bring Benardrick McKinney from the Texans solidified the middle of the defense. Both he and Jerome Baker can stop anything in front of them or chase to the sidelines just as easily. Andrew Van Ginkel and Jaelan Phillips will bring the rush from the outside, and our young talented D-line with one more year of experience under their belts, Christian Wilkins (LDE), Raekwon Davis (NT), and Emmanuel Ogbah (RE) should be even better this season.

Our secondary which was already formidable, got an early present in the form of S Jevon Holland. The Dolphins released S/DB Bobby McCain last week, so it’s clear the Dolphins felt they needed to upgrade. Holland will probably play some safety and slot corner, places where over the years McCain played both. Nik Needham filled in last season and held his own pretty well but the Dolphins are looking for better. With CB’s Xavien Howard and Byron Jones the Dolphins already have one of the premier CB tandems in the NFL. Holland will solidify the coverage both tight and deep. McCain often gave far too much of a cushion which led to easy shorter completions and also struggled covering deep as well. Holland should help there.

As far as the schedule is concerned, we open in NE to face a better Patriots team than last year’s version. Whether the QB is Cam Newton or Mac Jones, this team is getting a few players back that opted out due to C-19 last season. OT Marcus Cannon, LB Dont’a Hightower, S Patrick Chung and at least 5 others are back with the team. Then we face the Division Champs, the Buffalo Bills at home. The Bills went hard on defense in the draft bringing in 2 pass rush prospects, Gregory Rousseau and Carlos Basham Jr. Like the Dolphins, I expected them to draft a RB but the Bills passed altogether. Then we travel across the country to face the Vegas Raiders in a game they will undoubtedly be looking to avenge a tough loss last season, the Ryan Fitzpatrick game save with the unforgettable head twist pass to Mack Hollins. We follow that with a home game against a very tough opponent, the Indianapolis Colts. The Colts traded for QB Carson Wentz and drafted defense in their first 2 picks. They were a good team last season with Philip Rivers and have potential to be even better with a healthy Carson Wentz. We then stay in state to face the SB Champion Tampa Bay Bucs. The Bucs managed to keep everyone from last season plus added LB Joe Tryon in the draft. Tough game. Hopefully the lack of travel helps us here as we then have two road games in a row as we face off against the Jacksonville Jaguars in London. Road games but short travels in both. The Jaguars were awful last season but were rewarded with one of the best QB prospects in a decade or so, Trevor Lawrence. Lawrence will have to be extraordinary to help this team.

Our next home game is against the visiting Atlanta Falcons. Defense has been Atlanta’s weakness but their offense got a whole lot better after drafting TE Kyle Pitts. Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, and Hayden Hurst and now add Kyle Pitts. Tough to defend this team. Then comes the rematch with the Bills at Orchard Park, so no breaks for the defense with the Falcons and Bills back to back. We then play the Texans who may be without their QB DeShaun Watson, depending on how the NFL rules on his conduct. Then we face the Baltimore Ravens, a team we always struggle against. For some sobering perspective, the last 3 times we faced the Ravens we have been outscored 137-16 in 3 truly embarrassing losses. This is followed by a very late season first game with the NY Jets. The Jets will be led by new QB Zack Wilson and likely an improved O-line. We then travel to Carolina to face a former Jet in new Panthers QB Sam Darnold. Jets and former Jets.

For the last 1/3 of the season, the Dolphins host the NY Giants. The Giants made a big splash in FA landing WR Kenny Golladay and then doubled down in the draft with WR Kadarius Toney. QB Daniel Jones should be smiling. Week 14 will be our much needed BYE Week. We then face the Jets again. That’s 3 games against NY teams in 4 weeks. Then we travel to Nawlins to face the new look Saints. For the first time in 15 years, it will not be Drew Brees behind center. Taysom Hill be running the offense now. A difficult game follows that as we travel to Tennessee to battle the Titans and former Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill. We finish the season off with a home game against the New England Patriots.

Hard to say right now how we end up this season. If QB Tua Tagovailoa improves as I believe he will, I think our team can play with anyone. Sure, I wanted an upgrade at RB and still do, but with better QB play and what I believe will be a better defense than even last season, we should be able to scratch out 11-13 wins. It’s not inconceivable. Our offense will be better and that should also take some pressure off our defense. 2021 is a going to be a playoff season for us. How far we go, I can’t tell you but I do believe we will be making the playoffs for the first time since 2016, when we got stopped by the Pittsburgh Steelers with Matt Moore at the helm for our Dolphins with Ryan Tannehill out with 2 torn knee ligaments. Time to get back on that Playoff horse!


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1,019 Responses to Miami Dolphins 2021 Schedule

  1. David Collins says:

    Mike, Mostert doesnt even get warmed up until the playoffs

    he broke some NFL records for a rb in a playoff game, big time players step up when the super bowl is on the line

    Harris can only dream of this someday,,, and good luck to him

    but In the NFC Championship, Raheem Mostert became the first player with 200+ rushing yards and four rushing TDs in a playoff game, and easily gave San Francisco the win ..

    • steveccnv says:

      Just one of those games where the OL of SF dominated the game and Jimmy didn’t have to throw.

      Most decent backs would thrive in that situation, see our games against the cheats last year

      • David Collins says:

        our backs can only dream of breaking NFL records in championship games, maybe someday

  2. steveccnv says:

    The article was just a projection let’s not assume anything about Najee not doing it, because he hasn’t yet.

    Chances he’s at the least on the verge of Pro Bowl in his career are probably closer to 100% than 50%.

    Sure he ran for an elite O, but to be the starter on that team you have to be pretty damn good, as they frequently turn out great RBs and are loaded at the position yearly

    • David Collins says:

      agreed, and its tough to say a rookie is better than a NFL record breaker in a championship game as well

      the rookie has not broken any records and hasnt played in any championship games yet, most rookies never accomplish it

      the Dolphins have hundreds of RB drafted since 1966, and only one did it in championship games, so its ridiculous to think Harris could do it behind pittsburghs OL IMO

      but the Lone Dolphin that did it? his name was Larry Csonka #39

  3. David Collins says:

    actually Miami has two if You count the time That Mostert was a Dolphin in 2015

    but Miami cut Mostert
    Chances are not many Dolphins fans had San Francisco 49ers running back Raheem Mostert on their minds when they tuned into the NFC Championship Game.

    Mostert, on the other hand, had the Dolphins on his mind.

    Mostert carries a list of all the teams that cut him and, yes, Miami qualifies, thanks to a 28-day stint involving one game, two kickoffs and 57 return yards in 2015.

    Sunday, Mostert carried more than a chip on his shoulder, rushing 29 times for 220 yards and four touchdowns to shred Green Bay’s defense in a performance that, on its own merit, would have come within 24 yards of qualifying him as the Dolphins’ rushing leader for the entire 2019 season.

    • stangerx says:

      A lot of teams cut Mostert, but he’s a fine back. He’s also under contract to the Niners and — if it came to it — he’s 29. Have you been a fan of his for a while?

      • David Collins says:

        he played High school ball near where i used to live, and it was a shocker he didnt take the traditional way to the top

        from UDFA to the Super bowl, lol even though teams cut him, he had something to prove and did

        i DO feel he has accomplished alot in the NFL, alot more than every rookie that guy had on his list will ever accomplish.

        ,but that list is his opinion, and i disagree with it

      • Ken says:

        That is exactly the argument why you don’t spend high picks on RBs.

      • David Collins says:

        good point Ken

        but how does a guy like Mostert not get drafted, and teams dont see his potential, until the 49ers got him?

        its a strange way to the top, it always seemed like nobody was patient with him, what could he do on 2 kickoff returns in Miami? he got 47 yards and was cut

        seems like he should have gotten some carries also, kick the tires on a guy that ran a 4.4 and see what happens

      • stangerx says:

        David — so you got the hometown hero thing going with him. Have had that with a few players in the past.

      • steveccnv says:

        True Ken, but for an RB the scheme, OL,’s a team effort like in SF and Dallas. Zeke wasn’t great once the line deteriorated, Barkley can’t stay healthy, and hasn’t exactly tore it up after his rookie season.

        Good catch Stanger you figured out why he has a woody for Mostert😉

      • stangerx says:

        Ken – – like what at least used to be the Broncos way of doing it. Draft a lot of them and draft them low. Whoever has it will tell you they do….. sorta like Gaskins.

      • steveccnv says:

        If all they have to do is tell you they have it why not just ask them before you draft them😝

      • steveccnv says:

        Stanger you may be on to something, does it work for other positions

      • stangerx says:

        steve — I meant tell you by their play. Some positions the translation from college to the NFL is harder. Would also use a 2nd-4th on a QB every so often, even if doesn’t seem like you need it.

  4. David Collins says:

    Joe Philbin was the coach that cut Mostert, SMH

    it figures

  5. steveccnv says:

    There’s an SBNation article talking about us having the O and D rookies of the year and what it might take to get Waddle and Phillips the award.

    What he fails to mention is, if this were to occur we’d probably have a pretty good record and team

    • stangerx says:

      Waddle is still 11th in the odds, Phillips better cause the D players came later (and no QBs involved). But if you pick twice in the top 18…. heck yeah your guys should be in the convo.

      • steveccnv says:

        Being on Jax and Jets respectively, the top 2 QBs likely don’t win the award, what I see against Waddle is a crowded WR room and our tendency to spread the ball

      • stangerx says:

        If Waddle wins it our games sure will be fun to watch, even if Parker and Fuller will be real unhappy.

  6. stangerx says:

    Favored in 16 of 17 games are the Chiefs. Exception is Week 3 with a pick ’em line for a Sunday night game at Baltimore.

    That’s what it is like to come into the season as a Super Bowl contender. How many games will the Phins be favored in? Point is we ain’t quite there yet.

  7. David Collins says:

    Steve, im not one of Mosterts biggest fans, lol but i do watch playoff games and this is something that rookies dont remember, they can only watch and hope to make a team, never mind rewrite the record books and help their teams win championships

    its hard to imagine to me, that that guy would put unproven rookies on the list, and leave off record breaking championship guys, but hes not here to ask why he did it

    • stangerx says:

      Mostert is 29 and has run for a bit over 1,500 regular season yards in his career. Made his living as a complementary back. Never for more than 700 yards. Picked him up in fantasy a couple times when the Niners lead back got injured.

      You seeing a work horse set-up for him this year? Niners did draft a couple RBs. Wanna bet about whether Harris gets more yards?

      • David Collins says:

        im not a niners fan, and dont really keep up with what they are doing, unless they come on TV during championship games and super bowls

        im not advocating the fins bring him in, i just noted they DID bring him in, but cut him

        if harris has yards, good for him, im sure he will get some yards, but he will NOT be breaking any records in championship games

        the first round pick Harris, will not be able to break the UDFA Mostert records in championship games, is my prediction

      • stangerx says:

        So basically your point is that Mostert had a great playoff game or two a few years ago plus that he had a cup of coffee with the Phins? I could see him on the team if the price was right (he’s not getting paid that much), but then he’s on another one.

        Thought you were going for something else, but that’s my bad.

      • David Collins says:

        im ready to move on to the next subject please, lol its been hours on the same subject, lol

        i made My point, even if though coffee wasnt part of it, im sure You got it

      • stangerx says:

        If you want to end your own subject then fine by me. Surprised you don’t know what “cup of coffee” means in pro sports terms, but maybe Mostert was with the Phins for longer than I thought.

    • steveccnv says:

      Who would you rather have in 2021 as your lead back Harris or Mostert?

      • David Collins says:

        have a cup of coffee, i have some things to do besides talk about niners and steelers RB anymore today

  8. stangerx says:

    RIP Charles Grodin
    He brought a fun twist to every role.

  9. steveccnv says:

    The article was an opinion based on which RBs are the best right now.

    To say Mostert broke a record 2 years ago is irrelevant to the article.

    You can disagree with what he saying, but its just his opinion.

    When was the last time a U75 came up with some good material everyone agreed with?

    • David Collins says:

      its not irrelevant, because there is no guarantee that rookies will attain the same level of success in the NFL as someone that has already accomplished much

      remember Kijana Carter? he was a number one overall pick by the bengals, and never played a single down in his rookie season, he got injured in the first preseason game

      he was never really that good when he came back his second season either,

      there are no guarantees for rookie rb, no matter how high they are picked

      • steveccnv says:

        Do you have comprehension issues, or do you just not understand the meaning of the words written here?

      • David Collins says:

        neither, i dont want to spend the next 3 weeks on this subject, im trying to get some work done for my road trip tommorow, lol

        when Harris gets to a championship game and breaks Mosterts records, we will find time to talk about that

  10. stangerx says:

    He was most often not the star, but you grew up with Charles Grodin.

    Rosemary’s Baby
    The Heartbreak Kid
    King Kong (1976)
    Heaven Can Wait
    Seems Like Old Times
    The Woman in Red
    Last Resort
    Midnight Run

  11. steveccnv says:

    The NBA playoffs have the 7th seed playing the 8th seed and the 9th seed playing the 10th, for a play-in round.

    I thought what genius thought this up, but its not a 1 game round, like I heard mentioned.

    Winner of 7v8 gets the 7th seed, the loser plays the winner of 9v10 for the 8th seed.

    Not sure what Lebron is crying about, it could be just a 1 game series like baseball

    • David Collins says:

      SMH bash Lebron time, You really dont like guys that do well in championship games, lol JK

      • stangerx says:

        What is Lebron upset about? Hadn’t heard about this.

      • David Collins says:

        “I don’t look at our seeding. It doesn’t matter. Obviously, we know we wanted to play a lot better this season, but the injuries took a toll on our team,” James said, alluding to his ankle woes and Anthony Davis’ nine-week absence because of a calf strain and Achilles tendinosis in his right leg. “But I look forward to the challenge. It’s another challenge for me in the postseason. I’m looking forward to it.”

        he doesnt really sound upset to Me, ive heard much worse, lol

      • stangerx says:

        If that is what steve is talking about then don’t get it either. Doesn’t match up with his comment though. Maybe he’ll explain.

      • steveccnv says:

        Don’t like players, that know nothing about politics, then run their mouth ignorantly.

        He’s been running his mouth about all sorts of shit, a black cop in LA called him out on it.

        There was a tweet he put out prematurely, then deleted, then tried to justify it.

        On the playoffs he used a few hate words towards those responsible for this play-in format, but not a word earlier, when the Lakers were playing good ball

      • stangerx says:

        Thanks steve and makes sense now. Lebron wasn’t happy about having a play-in game and made that clear. Seems solution to that is have a better record. 🙂

      • David Collins says:

        some people dont like it when black athletes with tons of money speak out against injustice

        Lebron is very intelligent, he has a net worth of $500 million plus, not bad for a broke kid from Ohio

  12. Tim Knight says:

    David, didn’t LeBron accuse NBA owners to slave owners? His net worth of $500+ million is due to NBA owners paying him that kind of money to put a ball through a hoop. I don’t think slaves were compensated quite like that. Not sure those types of comments scream intelligence, more like ignorance. This horrible racist country has been very bad to him. SMH

    • stangerx says:

      Who cares? Not even sure how this turned from the basketball playoff format to Lebron’s political views. He can think whatever he wants.

    • David Collins says:

      systemic racism is still rampant, ask the George Floyd family if racism exists

      he is very intelligent, published 2 books , and started I promise, helping kids get college scholarships,

      he is a kind hearted man that has spent millions helping others that needed it

      he has a documentary coming out as well, I promise is the name of it

      he has so many projects going on, and has proven himself, but racism means that many still want to call the black man dumb, just like the slave days

      we all remember when many said Black men were too dumb to play QB< but looks like the ones making the comments were dumb in the end

      • Tim Knight says:

        Okay way to stay on point.

        Systemic racism is not rampant, it’s isolated. You’re a white guy right? Are you racist? I’m not either. So who is? Name names. Do you see how dangerous just broad stroking people as racist is?

      • stangerx says:

        He seems a bit egotistical to me, and has nothing to do with the color of his skin. If we couldn’t root for black guys might as well close up this board right now.

  13. pheloniusphish says:

    If Lebron is worth $500 million he’s half way to being a billionaire and is therefore an evil crook in David’s world. David has said so many times – all billionaires are crooks. So Lebron must be at least half a crook. Of course David also thinks cows and AOC are smart, so there is that.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Does LeBron have a problem cashing those checks from endorsements where some of the products are made with slave labor in other countries? Nope because he’s now part of the elite. Funny how that works. As fucked up as it is, I find humor in hypocrisy.

    • David Collins says:

      i dont think they are smart, I KNOW they are

      Lebron does have half a billion dollars, but he isnt the billionaire that steals money, he earned his money, ddint steal it, , and gives back to the community
      Lebron is a person, not a ceo of GE, big difference

      • stangerx says:

        So if Lebron ends up a billionaire will that mean all billionaires aren’t bad? Cause yes you have said that. How you feel about Oprah?

      • Tim Knight says:

        I never said he stole it. Who are you referring to that stole it?

      • David Collins says:

        was talking to Phel

      • David Collins says:

        i dont actually think Lebron will make 1 billion, his career is ending soon

        but he did earn his money, larry culp did NOT imo

      • stangerx says:

        David — wasn’t a will Lebron be worth a billion Q. Was what if he is.

      • David Collins says:

        stanger, the billionaires i referred to before, were wall street billionaires, not oprah winfrey, she is not a wall street billionaire that manipulates the markets and steals investors money

  14. David Collins says:

    if Lebron says something i disagree with , i wouldnt default, and call him stupid, i say we disagree

  15. stangerx says:

    Michael Jordan is worth $1.6 Billion. Are we supposed to hate him for that?

    • David Collins says:

      its ok to hate the man if You want, lol i wont stop You

      but hes not a wall street billionaire that manipulates and steals in the markets, like i referred to before

      • stangerx says:

        You wrote an absolute about all billionaires numerous times. Maybe be a little more careful in your wording going forward. Hurt me cause have met a few billionaires I liked.

  16. Tim Knight says:

    The problem I’ve always had with LeBron and other NBA stars is that they have no patience to win with the team they’re with. They must go to a team that has everything in place so they can win now. That’s why the NBA is not a competitive league. It’s as close to being fixed as it can get.

  17. David Collins says:

    Lebron does need to stand up more for human rights in China, but he did for the Hong Kong protestors and caught hell for that
    and he did stand up against police brutality and murder against citizens, and caught hell for that too

    so im thinking he will get hate if he doesnt stand up for Nike, who says they are doing away with it, but, yea’
    but he will also get hate if he DOES stand up for them and their plight. maybe thats why he spends his time playing basketball, and publishing books and documentaries

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t hate LeBron, I think he’s a hypocrite. I hate people who kill people with no conscience. I don’t think LeBron kills people.

      David, you go off on these rants sometimes without much thought in what you’re typing. I sometimes feel you’re on acid or something. Then I see you post more cognizant stuff so I think you’ve come down. We recently had a good discussion about water levels in below sea level areas. We both see it and it wasn’t agenda driven. It’s reality. Nobody is going to tell us what we see isn’t real. Perception is not reality though. It’s perception. You sometimes get so tangled up in your perception, you don’t see reality.

      You skip past a lot of people’s questions to you and just keep rolling with whatever agenda it is that you’re on. Have you not noticed that you get challenged by multiple people often?

  18. bookman11 says:


    • bookman11 says:


    • David Collins says:

      AOC is correct, cows , and the feed and water it takes to raise them is destroying the planet

      they take enormous amounts of food and water, and it takes so many acres to feed 7 billion people

      they do put off enormous amounts of flatulence, AND waste, so do pigs and chickens

      where does it all go? research it and find out

      the amazon rain forest is being depleted as we speak, for animal agriculture

      is the rain forest important? it takes alot of co2 out of the atmosphere and provides oxygen,
      watch the documentary Cowspiracy , or WHat the Health, or the game changers, and find out what most of us dont know about the animal agricultural industry, and its dirty secrets

  19. David Collins says:

    Phel, the baby calf that used to live in a field behind Me, is not there anymore, the rancher took her to a show, she won an award, and was sold for $2500.00, to be a show cow.
    the rate for a calf for beef around here is $750.

    ANY cow in FL that finds a way to avoid being a hamburger, is a damn genius, lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s funny! LOL

    • pheloniusphish says:

      True that.

      When I was a kid we moved a fence line and left a 6×6 corner post in the middle of a pasture. Had a cow that would charge that post and knock herself out several times a day. I attributed it to the fact that she once got into our neighbor’s weed grow and ate about 20 plants.

      • David Collins says:

        my cows were smarter than Yours, lol

        i see them do dumb things sometimes, but then i see things that are amazing all the time , like this one calf , the rancher calls her Houdini, lol

        she ALWAYS escapes, nothing holds her, lol

        one day she was banging on my door for carrots, lol

        rancher came out and had to fix a very tiny hole in the fence that she found , and dug under it to get out

      • David Collins says:

        that is strange about that cow though, normally they would use a pole like that, to scratch their heads and necks on it
        they are always rubbing on poles, sprinklers, fences, tree branches, anything they can find

  20. CavalierKong says:

    a tale of star-crossed lovers

  21. CavalierKong says:

    My youngest kid has gone vegetarian because of the whole cow and chicken thing. I say good for you, daughter, by strong in your convictions. I know I’m strong in my conviction that you’ll have to pry this steak out of my cold, dead hand, lol.

    I tried an impossible burger…once.

    • CavalierKong says:

      ‘be’ not ‘by’

      • CavalierKong says:

        …that isn’t the question…

        I guess today is fun with butchering Shakespeare quotes day (I wonder if anyone on the board will be able to follow any of that)

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Lil R & J?

      • CavalierKong says:

        R&J on the first, which is fairly obvious, the 2nd is hamlet and a bit harder to follow as it was accidental, lol (to be or not to be, that is the question)

    • Tim Knight says:

      I ordered a veggie burger one time from a diner and it was made up of cornmeal, lima beans and other squashy veggies. It sucked!!! Burgers are not made of vegetables. LOL

      You want to stop eating red meat, fine! But don’t try to make a burger something that it’s not. 😉

      • CavalierKong says:

        The commercials with people saying “I can’t tell the difference” absolutely crack me up. Did you have your tongue blowtorched right before eating it? lol

        I think it’s great they have those options for people that want to go that route, whether it’s to save animals, save the earth, or just preference, that’s cool man. But don’t try to sell me on it being just like a real burger. I can tell the difference between horseshit and cow meat. 🤣

  22. Mike E. says:

    Grodin was great in Seems Like Old Times

  23. David Collins says:

    i used to fish lake okeechobee in the early 70’s, before the cattle farms moved in to the kissimmee river basin that flows into lake okeechobee, and the veggies and sugar cane fields moved in.

    between the cows and the vegetables and sugar cane fields, Lake Okeechobee paid the price and was ruined forever, what was once a clear lake almost 50 miles wide, is now a putrid green toxic mess thats 35 miles wide, and the water gets dumped into saltwater canals that drain to the ocean and gulf, creating huge toxic green gunk and red time that kills dolphins, turtles, fish, birds, etc

    so yes, the grain that is required to feed the cows, and their waste product that leeches into canals, rivers, groundwater, etc
    is destroying the environment, farmers and ranchers took the easy way out for profits, and the environment continually spirals downward into a death spiral while the beef chicken and pork industries, pay off the politicians to keep the status quo

    • Tim Knight says:

      You lived in Florida your whole life. What did you do about it? We’re all part of the human race that does stupid shit. But we also do cool too, no? Do you have a list of people who are responsible and are you on it?

      • David Collins says:

        we couldnt stop the big corporations, and the US army corp of engineers that harmed FL
        we did what we could, river clean up days, promote awareness, class action suits were filed against corporations, rancher, farmers, and governments

        and try to vote for governors that cared about FL
        but had little success on the last part of it, FL governors have always been in bed with big Sugar and the beef industries, its profitable

        the answer doesnt mean everyone has to go vegan, the answer is making the corporations responsible for their mess, make them clean it up, treat the waste nstead of dumping it, and redesign their operations for substainability

        we will all have to pay one way or the other, food will never be cheap again

  24. Marinofan13 says:


    • Tim Knight says:

      Because he’s a lefty and not the tallest QB, I say this is a baby Steve Young. The great Steve Young we saw in the 90’s was not the rookie he was in 1984. Just saying. 😉

      • Marinofan13 says:

        I’m not going THAT far… at least not yet! 🙂

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’m pointing out how many years it took for Young to reach the highest of levels. In today’s game we’ll move on from a QB like Tua before it ever happens.

    • David Collins says:

      he looks alot stronger and more confident with his movements than last year

      hopefully this is the year Tua takes us to another level

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I think he looks absolutely great. No sign of his hip injury, his thighs are THICK, he’s fluid in and out of his breaks, and his arm seems to be live again.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I know you’re not a big Parcells fan, but he always told QBs you throw with your legs not your arm.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        The Tuna wasn’t wrong, either, with that thought. Parcells does — in fact — have a lot of wisdom.

  25. Tim Knight says:

    So Gaskin said the offense is much different than last year under Godsey/Studesville – totally new playbook. What do you all think that means?

  26. David Collins says:

    Good Morning Football’s Peter Schrager claims that the team that surrounds the former Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa is different on the field and on the sidelines.

    The offensive coordinator for the Dolphins in 2020 was Chan Gailey, who was the coach for former Dolphins quarterback, Ryan Fitzpatrick, in Buffalo and New York.

    Gailey is now out and Schrager believes the new co-offensive coordinators, whom were promoted from inside the organization, can do what it takes to build a playbook that best fits Tagovailoa.

    In addition to the coaching changes, Miami brought in Jaylen Waddle and Will Fuller

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I’m not quite sure what to make of Peter Schrager. I like some of what he says, yet not a fan of other things he says. I’ll tell ya this much, Nate Burleson is a guy I VERY much trust. And dude is VERY sharp with the puns, to boot.

      If one isn’t paying attention to what Burleson is saying, it goes right over one’s head. Can’t say enough good about that cat.

      • David Collins says:

        what i find interesting is his remarks on how Chan Gailey worked with Fitz with two other teams, but now is gone, along with Fitz of course.

        that is why it seemed like the plays were designed more for Fitz than Tua, because they were

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Of course the plays were designed for Ryan Fitzpatrick… that’s why Chan Gailey was brought in to begin with, having been with Fitzpatrick with two other teams. Gailey was named as our OC before the ’20 NFL Draft… when we didn’t even know who we might land in the Draft.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Schrager kind of mentioned the NO $#!t, SHERLOCK statement in that interview… I saw it too. I thought everybody (Phins fans) already realized what he’d mentioned.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Schrage’s is a good guy. But he also sells the NFL. Take it with a grain of salt.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        I think so too, Tim. I certainly don’t dislike Schrager… he’s a very likable personality.

  27. Marinofan13 says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 18, 2021 at 8:27 pm
    I’m pointing out how many years it took for Young to reach the highest of levels. In today’s game we’ll move on from a QB like Tua before it ever happens.
    Oh, man… I HEAR YA on that, and it’s ridiculous how quickly today’s NFL gives up on young QBs. Many examples out there to pick from, as well.

    • Ken says:

      Dare anyone say Ryan Tannehill. Hulk waits for blog to blow up

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Is it fair to mention or not mention Tannehill? We waited many years for him to become our next best since Marino… it never worked out for us.

        Personally, I blame our lack of coaching for Tanny’s problems in Miami. I will ALWAYS appreciate that guy for the effort he gave to us.

  28. manitobafinfan says:

    Pretty sure NBC just ID’d Chris Greir as Brian Flores at the Panthers/lightning game … quite sure Grier is in attendance and they showed him and said was Flores

    I just learned that Chris Grier’s brother is Mike Grier. Former NHL player. Kinda Kewl did not know that

  29. olddolphan says:

    YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, MANITOBA!! The fact that NBC doesn’t know Grier from Flores is typical of America’s SOMETIMES laughable coverage of the NHL!! And it’s typical, so far, of the mostly mediocre play-by-play descriptions of what exactly is going on in these very important playoff games!! It seems to me like these guys aren’t even in the arena but instead are “calling the game” from a broadcast vehicle in Connecticut. WHAT BULLSHIT!!!
    Now here’s what’s NOT BULLSHIT! The Lightning are STILL VERY MUCH FOR REAL! Their swoon the last 3 regular season games was caused by two factors: #1) INJURIES. 6 key Bolts players were trying to get healthy for the PLAYOFFS. And #2) the salary cap, which Tampa Bay would have exceeded had they tried to plug some temporary holes with quality replacements during the last 3 games of the regular season. HOWEVER, the “CAP,” as I’ve been told, does not function once the regular season is over. So the injured players got better (Hedman, for instance, the Conn Smyth winner last playoff season) came back from a late season injury to play his ass off the first two games in SUNRISE against the Panthers. And KUCHEROV, who missed the entire regular season, was stellar in both games 1 and 2 of this series. And THAT was bad news for the Panthers!! THEN there’s team captain Stephan Stamkos who, after a couple of months on the injured list, ALSO CAME BACK HEALTHY for the PLAYOFFS!! He looked GREAT in both games 1 and 2 in Sunrise.
    BOTTOM LINE?? — The Panthers are going to LOSE this opening round best of 7 series to the Lightning. Losing games 1 and 2 AT HOME is almost always a death knell to your season. After that, the Bolts most likely will play the Carolina Hurricanes in the Eastern Conference semi-finals. And whoever wins THAT series will be the betting favorite to win the Stanley Cup.
    TIME to walk the Greyhound and get my beauty rest.
    The Old Dolfan is OUT for tonight!

  30. manitobafinfan says:

    OD. Watching Sportsdesk , they did show Flores firing up the crowd.. so he was there , but It was clearly Grier that I saw and they ID’d him as Flores..

    As for the “offsite” broadcasters… you are likely correct .. up here, through regular season , with Covid the home team TV crew is in the building, the visiting teams crew is actually at their home arena doing the play by play off the broadcast…. we have a few broadcast crews that are painful to listen to … they are almost emotionless… good luck to everyone’s Faves , unless there are Canadiens, Oilers , or Bruin fans in the house

    • steveccnv says:

      Believe this is one I watched yesterday, they explain why Flores wants all those DBs.

      It said, to match up with different styles of O.

      With that said, can see why we took Holland and picked up McCourty

    • stangerx says:

      Has to make you feel good to watch that.

  31. ocalarob says:

    ck this crap out, this guy had concrete in his boxing gloves!

  32. ocalarob says:

    some more concrete in boxing gloves

  33. bailbondmike says:

    Missed the beef convo last night.
    Re: impossible burger
    “The commercials with people saying “I can’t tell the difference” absolutely crack me up.”
    That is because they used people who had COVID to be taste testers. lol

    • David Collins says:

      just wanted to say,

      its impossible for those putrid smelly slabs of swamp cabbage to be called burgers

      they dont smell good at all, i know the old saying is once your past the smell , You got it licked, but i dont subscribe to that theory, lol

  34. David Collins says:

    imagine if you scraped off some green mold and barnacles from Your boat, and mixed it with some cauliflower and okra that expired 4 months ago, and fry it up and call it a hamburger,

    yea, just like grandmas home cooking, lol not quite

  35. bailbondmike says:

    My post 2021 draft no trady early 2022 mock draft:

    26. Tyler Linderbaum OC Iowa
    52. Brenton Cox EDGE Florida
    90. Kennedy Brooks RB Oklahoma
    116. Ty Fryfogle WR Indiana
    120. Isaiah Pola-Mao S USC
    152. Phidarian Mathis DT Alabama
    181. Jack Sanborn LB Wisconsin
    184. Chandler Jones CB Louisville
    216. Brian Robinson Jr. RB Alabama

    PFN had us picking #26. I don’t think SF does that well. Our pick to Philly was #20.

    Brian Robinson won’t be there this late. He may be top 5 next year.

    • steveccnv says:

      SF had the good year, when injuries weren’t a factor like last year and the year Jimmy was hurt.

      They have the talent to make a run, but that division is brutal, any of the 4 could win it or finish last

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Feel like a lot of people are going to be on the Linderbaum train

      It would be wise to keep adding to OL next season but not sure about a first on a center

      Of course if we are drafting in the back end of the first, it’s more plausible

      By midseason im sure we will have a better idea of our needs but for now, early on looking at pass rushers, OL early – basically the fundamental stuff. An offensive playmaker is always welcome too 🐷

      I’m sure Flores is eyeing all the DBs….lol

  36. The Flying Pig says:

    Just got a Costco membership

    Just bought bulk toilet paper

    Should have enough through 2022 now

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I bought coke and yogurt too

      Not sure if there is any connection

      But whatever you think of me – if there’s a zombie apopcolypse, and you think you can survive on yogurt and cola, my home is ground zero

    • stangerx says:

      Now that you got Costco squared away find your other place that you pop in to buy the expiration stuff for the next couple days’ meals. But then that’s assuming Costco is a hike, wherever I lived the bulk places were for me.

      • steveccnv says:

        I use 2 bulk, 2 regular, and Walmart.

        The 2 regulars always have ground beef, chicken, and beef on sale, along with other stuff I use

      • stangerx says:

        Sounds like you are the multi-site shopping sensai. I always just had bulk and not bulk. Headed out to the bulk every 3 or 4 weeks and in btwn hit the local supermarket.

    • steveccnv says:

      They say the TP is a good deal there, but don’t agree.

      The 2 stores I go to have apps and it’s on sale a lot.

      Last week bought 2 12 packs for $5, not top quality, but good enough.

      This week they have the good stuff 12 pack $3.

      You must live out in the sticks now

  37. ocalarob says:

    what buy and not buy at costco

  38. stangerx says:

    Heck yeah the Dolphins showed up to support the Panthers last night…. Flores even voiced a promo video.
    “Flores and general manager Chris Grier were among roughly 40 members of the team’s coaching and personnel staffs who packed a couple of suites.”
    — Beasley

    • steveccnv says:

      Doing everything the right way.

      Davis and Gruden were at a VGK game, that I attended, before the pandemic, but no speech the PA did mention them and put them on the screen

  39. Mike E. says:

    BBM – we don’t need no stinking RB’s, don’t you read this blog? 🤣

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s not that we don’t need them, it’s that you wanted someone else. 😉

      We’ll see how it plays out. Maybe the guys we have will be productive.

  40. stangerx says:

    Gesicki is going to Tight End U in Nashville. Worse coaches for him to have than Kelce and Kittle.

    • Tim Knight says:

      What is this?

      • stangerx says:

        A bunch of the tight ends were invited to come to Nashville to work out together and share tips on playing TE. Kittle and Kelce the marquis names who seem to be at least part of running it. Not sure why they are trying to help the competition to tell you the truth, but if they are gonna share glad our TE will be there.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Oh okay. Lots of players from different teams workout together though.

      • stangerx says:

        That is true. This does seem something different though. All the same position and flying in to do it. And claim it is about learning that position.

      • Tim Knight says:


  41. herdfan says:

    Got the second vaccine Monday afternoon. Still feeling horrible 2 days later.

    • D says:

      Yeah i have heard almost everyone that has had the shot say the second one is a mother fucker.

    • stangerx says:

      My wife had similar and today talked to an aunt who did as well. Not all do though (me being one). Sorry you pulled the wrong card….. still nice after it is over.

  42. D says:

    bailbondmike says:
    May 19, 2021 at 9:51 am
    My post 2021 draft no trady early 2022 mock draft:

    26. Tyler Linderbaum OC Iowa
    52. Brenton Cox EDGE Florida
    90. Kennedy Brooks RB Oklahoma
    116. Ty Fryfogle WR Indiana
    120. Isaiah Pola-Mao S USC
    152. Phidarian Mathis DT Alabama
    181. Jack Sanborn LB Wisconsin
    184. Chandler Jones CB Louisville
    216. Brian Robinson Jr. RB Alabama

    PFN had us picking #26. I don’t think SF does that well. Our pick to Philly was #20.
    As soon as i saw that list the first name that stood out to me was Ty Fryfogle. That name is an odd one most places but not here in Lucedale MS. That’s a fairly common name, big family clan here with that name. Looked it up and yep, Lucedale MS is his hometown. I think i remember them talking about this kid around here when he played HS football here. I dont have any kids who play, so i don’t attend the HS games, but looks like he had done pretty well for himself considering he is being rated a 4thish round pick.

    • D says:

      I will have to say Lucedale does produce some good talent occasionally. Most of us will remember one of the last WR’s to really make it big from here. Eric Moulds, former Buffalo Bill WR.

  43. Tim Knight says:

    Hey D, not sure if you discussed him before but what do you think of RB Jordan Scarlett with you being a Gators fan?

  44. Marinofan13 says:

    I’ve been a fan of Marcellus Wiley for a while… and he’s speaking the truth here on Tua.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah that’s how I feel. I don’t really care about some of the stats they were putting out there with a limited body of work. It’s about the jump from year one to year two. We’ll know a lot more about Tua this year. The entire offense has a chance to take that next step with so many young players taking that next step individually. Not just last year’s rookies but 3rd and 4th year players too.

      We’ve heard Gaskin say the offense is very different. I think that’s all about building around the talent we have, not just Tua even though he’s a big part of it being the QB, but what we think we do well. Play to our strengths. I’m looking forward to it. 🙂

    • The Flying Pig says:

      The hate Tua consistently faces is illogical

  45. herdfan says:

    Being sick prevented me from posting this yesterday but it’s never too late!

  46. Marinofan13 says:

    Video captured from about a week ago. DB training with some really good ones around the league. Xavien, Iggy, and Jamal Perry are in this.

    As your resident DB enthusiast, I really dig this video…

    • Marinofan13 says:

      And might I say, Iggy looks poised to take the next step in his young career.

      • stangerx says:

        That vid is half a Big Bang theory… lol. What did you see about Iggy that you liked?

      • Tim Knight says:

        There is going to be heavy competition in our secondary this year. Iggy battling for more playing time will be one of them.

  47. bailbondmike says:

    D, Ty Fryfogle caught my eye last year when IU lost @ Ohio State 42-35. Fryfogle had 7 rec for 218 yards and 3 TD’s. He is one to keep an eye on.

  48. Marinofan13 says:

    stangerx says:
    May 19, 2021 at 6:34 pm
    That vid is half a Big Bang theory… lol. What did you see about Iggy that you liked?
    A) Participation (he’s serious: only a handful of league-wide DBs participated in this get together)
    B) He’s chiseled like never before, looks like he gained a few pounds of muscle
    C) His reaction-time in these drills (very good reflexes, very good and fluid hips)
    D) Movement: very seamless, no wasted motion. We can see why he was drafted in the 1st round last year
    E) He’s rocking a heavy beard in the HEAT: he’s fully acclimated to the HEAT (conditioned)

    • Tim Knight says:

      Iggy is a great athlete. He also seems like a very motivated individual. Put the two of them together and you usually have a good player. He’s only 2.5 years into being a CB.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Absolutely agreed.

      • Tim Knight says:

        He’s also only 21 years old. Grier and Flores used a late 1st round pick to draft him last year because they see something in this young man.

        One thing I liked that I saw from him last year is he competes and plays aggressive even if he didn’t know what he was doing. The sky is the limit for him if he learns the finer points of playing corner. There is no shortage of tutelage in the secondary room and watching the top guys play last year. He’s in a great situation in Miami.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Absolutely agreed for a second time, Tim.

    • stangerx says:

      Thanks M13…. hope you are spot on with that.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        YW… and me too. But if there’s anything I’m good for, it’s evaluation of DBs. I think Iggy’s going to be a good one.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        David Amerson will always be held against me, but I couldn’t predict injuries ending his career.

  49. Krishna says:

    Did I miss the ticket count on the Fest? I didn’t vote so maybe it was there. I believe I can be at any the dates this year, especially since there will be herd immunity from what I can tell….lol

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t think we sr\tarted a ticket count. There’s a poll on the date so you can vote

      • Krishna says:

        Not going to vote but want to be there whenever it is. Full disclosure, probably will not be vaccinated….so there’s that.

  50. pheloniusphish says:

    Should I vote for all three games since it doesn’t matter to me?

  51. pheloniusphish says:

    I like it…Krishna say fuck being zombified.

  52. Tim Knight says:

    Jaelan Phillips’ upside is as big a deal that drafting Jaylon Waddle was on the other side of the ball. We didn’t have a guy with his skills on the edge. Ogbah can be a beast as a DE but that hybrid OLB/DE with Phillips’ size and speed ratio we did not have. 🙂

  53. Krishna says:

    I do like the balanced approach with the draft. Lots of holes to fill on both sides of the ball. Hopefully, we’ve started filling them in.

    Love the speed, love the competition, love the culture being built. It’s about fucking time.

  54. Krishna says:

    I wanted Micah and Najee so I totally get Mike E. on RB, at least.

    Stay the course and I’ll enjoy the view!

  55. Tim Knight says:

    Who do we have to beat in the AFC to get to a championship game? How do we compete against and beat those teams? The AFC is deep and competitive, much more so then the NFC and we play the best of the NFC this year in TB and NO.

    From what I saw us do in the offseason was not about a premier RB, it was about defense and explosive plays on offense. Continuing to build the OL as well.

    Our schedule will show us where we stand this year. It’s a really good test.

    • Krishna says:

      Well said.

      I thought we were bad (not awful) on both sides of the ball in spite of our record. The last game of the season exposed much of the charade of the season.

      I believe we have made needed improvement on both sides of the ball to be competitive in the AFC. Now, show me, as OD would say.

  56. Krishna says:

    Lol….I guess I killed the blog last night. Oh my, oh well.

  57. Mike E. says:

    I think we should make the call sooner than later as to what date the Fest will be and I would love to get a head count as to who’s coming as well. I know that’s Stanger’s job, but I would like to try to get things booked ASAP while the rates may still be reasonable. Once everything opens up I bet the rates jump quite a bit.

  58. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 19, 2021 at 5:24 pm
    Hey D, not sure if you discussed him before but what do you think of RB Jordan Scarlett with you being a Gators fan?
    I think Scarlett is a really good RB, more true downhill guy with some giddyup. Decent receiver, as most of the UF RB’s will be, and a well rounded back that’s not just crazy stand out in any one area. Comparing him to others backs, remember Gills? Mike Gillislee, id say he is comparable to him in the rounded skill set, but he is a more powerful runner. A chance to be a really good pro,

  59. D says:

    stangerx says:
    May 19, 2021 at 5:21 pm
    My wife had similar and today talked to an aunt who did as well. Not all do though (me being one). Sorry you pulled the wrong card….. still nice after it is over.
    All the ones i have heard talking about the second one being bad have been women, i think Herd brought up something about it typically hitting women harder. Maybe that explains your luck and that of the several i have spoken with.

  60. Ken says:

    I plan on attending the fest

  61. pheloniusphish says:

    My wife got her second shot yesterday. Down hard today.

  62. pheloniusphish says:

    I will be at the Fest. No tickets required.

  63. sb7mvp says:

    Getting my second dose tomorrow.

  64. Krishna says:

    I will be there and will sit with everyone unless there is an unvaxed section and i need to get my own ticket. Just let me know the rules.

    I won’t wear a mask outside, especially tail gating, D&B, or walking the boardwalk on Hollywood beach. Full disclosure.

    • Krishna says:

      Just let me know the date please…depending on the weekend will determine if i do a week vacation there before or after.

      And yes, flights are still cheap. RT from ATX to Tampa this summer was $240 bought yesterday.

    • D says:

      Liberals are always causing problems 🙂 JKBB and whatever else i need to do/say to show I’m joking lol.

      Still, this is my plea for people to still treat it like its not over (that and because its not) is that we will always have a mixture of people, who by all freedoms they are allotted choose not to get vaccinated and though its politicized as hell, to each their own. Your feelings on it aren’t theirs and vice versa. I think the sooner the world starts co-existing with one another, no matter the case, the better we are.

      For me i believe in the vaccine, I’m not a vaccine denier, but i also don’t feel anyone should be belittled, chastised, etc because of their belief in not getting it or waiting a little longer. I justam irritated with the group of people who are like Your cousin…..from Bahhhstun. Who had the shot and then had his dream of ok yay all done back to normal. This shit came on fast and has held on for a while, its not going anywhere in a fast manner, hell I’m not convinced it does ever.

      Id say do what you feel is right and if there are consequences…deal with them. That goes for those that don’t get the vaccine and remain at risk, and the ones that get it and very foolishly believe they can return to normal putting themselves at risk. I mean its been over a fucking year, what’s the fucking rush lol.

  65. herdfan says:

    I don’t have an issue with any one being vaccinated or unvaccinated. Up to the person. I wasn’t going to get it but then the guilt kicked in, I’m around my mama quite a bit. If I thought I passed something to her, devastating.

    Not sure being happy about no side effects is the correct thinking. The immune system response is what makes you feel bad. If you had no side effects, did it really work?

    • D says:

      This is a good point, but then again, everyone’s reaction to the virus itself varies in severity from asymptomatic to death so its bound to have a range on the effects of the antivirus People have reactions to the standard flu vaccine too.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      I don’t even care if it works I have my stupid little card that says I got it

      • D says:

        Well yeah and for some its as simple as that. I want to do functions a, b, c and they require the little card. So i got the card.

    • stangerx says:

      Herd — your question about if no side effects did it work a good and logical one. Saw a doc on the news say not to worry about that.

      And yeah worrying about your Mom was the right move, as with everyone else you run across.

  66. The Flying Pig says:

    Tomorrow will be my 2 week anniversary from my second shot

    And let me tell you, I’ve been a wild boar since being vaccinated

    First, not only have I’ve stop wearing pants, I went next level and burned any pants

    Also I’ve used foul language in public settings more often than before

    Finally, I’ve decided that it’s too early to judge rookie QBs after one year

    The vaccine has really allowed me to live my life freely

  67. Ken says:

    Been fully vaccinated since March 31. I still wear a mask when required and have no problem doing but I am returning to a more normal existence again. I have returned to dining at restaurants. I am back to regular workouts at the gym. We have made plans to travel. None of this would have been possible without the vaccine.

  68. stangerx says:

    Poll on the Fest date is 9-2-1 Atlanta. Makes sense to call it Falcons on Oct 24 to me.
    I’ll just let our Phins guy know the date and put a deposit down.
    Then I’ll have a couple of months to lock down the final number before final payment due at the seat draft.

  69. D says:

    sb7mvp says:
    May 20, 2021 at 12:12 pm
    What happened with the lederhosen?
    it got hulkified, and now is Lederfettihosen

  70. Krishna says:

    10/24 it is and I’m in. Now do I want to start my vacation the week before of the game or kick it off with the fest and stay an extra week. Decisions, decisions.

    Loved the Wild Boar comment. Our Piggy is growing up sans pants.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      We’re away before and after the Falcons game so you can’t turn your trip into a twofer but being it’s already late October the week prior will likely be nicer weather. Unless you want to be in Key West for Halloween 🤷‍♂️

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Only if he drives to Key West. And fantasy fest will probably be epic this year.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Oh yeah it’ll be insane I bet

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Piggs would fit right in

      • stangerx says:

        Fantasy is something to see. Wanna call it Marti Gras for aging hippies, but was a whole lot of partying young folks there when was there 2 or 3 years ago. Locals parade is better than the main event.

      • Krishna says:

        You guys are hilarious! Lol.

        It’s going to have to be after as I just remembered I have work commitments, IRS and state Q3 reporting. Can’t mess with the man on these….lol.

        I was so excited about getting to a game, I forgot about work. LOL!

  71. Marinofan13 says:

  72. Marinofan13 says:

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Why not?
      A lot of our guys are poised to do that this could be a hell of a ride this year.
      I sense a very strong energy and eagerness from this team. Ten wins and no playoffs is hard to accept these players are hungry.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      As long as he doesn’t fall asleep under a tree, I think he’s got the right stuff to take the next step

  73. Marinofan13 says:

    “The Athletic” reported yesterday that the Atlanta Falcons are trying to trade Julio Jones… don’t know why they’d do that, being they seem to be in ‘WIN NOW’ mode with Matty Ice (could have drafted his replacement), and the R1P4 selection of Kyle Pitts.

    I’m not interested in trading for him (though I love the player), just PLEASE don’t end up in the AFC East.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      If we did get him Parker is toast. I don’t see us being in the Julio market either but I’d be psyched as hell if we did get him.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Agreed, on all accounts. Love Julio Jones, but he’s not the future for us at his age.

    • stangerx says:

      Don’t think Falcons are in win now mode at all. Look how they did last season. Makes sense to get something out of Julio and maybe do him a favor do him a favor by sending him to a contender.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        That’s cool, just don’t trade him to the AFC East! Him opposite Diggs in Buffalo would be horrible for us, him helping the stej new QB would be horrible for us, and just imagine Belicheat* getting his hands on him… *gulp*

  74. stangerx says:

    While a number of religious groups are supportive of LGBTQ inclusion and equality, the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas is not one of them. Its members believe that homosexuality is a sin, according to the church’s website

    They must have loved what the gay guy who moved in across the street did. In an official statement the Westboro Baptist Church referred to the guy’s house as the “Sodomite Rainbow House.” And the place has been tagged a lot with many hateful words….. even if no proof the minister did it.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think that’s the same church that protests military funerals because being a soldier of war is also a sin.

      • D says:

        They are shit stirrers and they aren’t Christians, that’s not the all inclusive love that God intends.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Lap siding lends itself nicely to that rainbow paint job. With vertical lined siding he would have needed to tape lines.

      • stangerx says:

        Think it looks neat. And not like the guy next door wasn’t going bold with his color scheme, but then he went red, white and blue.

    • bookman11 says:

      I would be pissed if either of those houses were in my neighborhood. I certainly would not buy one there if I was looking for a house. Ridiculous

      • stangerx says:

        Guess it just a matter of taste, or maybe have gotten used to the Florida tropical color schemes. We have aquas, oranges, pinks and bright oranges all over the place. And that includes if you take the tourist boat tour of the big money mansions. But for sure not like those either.

    • Krishna says:

      Looks some houses in some of the neighborhoods in ATX. Awesome $1M properties. I love it!

  75. Marinofan13 says:

  76. Tim Knight says:

    D, thanks for the comments on Scarlett. The highlights that I think David posted showed some good stuff and like you said, a downhill type of runner. I forgot about Mike Gillislee. I thought at the time he was going to be better than what his career ended up being.

    • D says:

      He was under utilized by us, got out went to….Buffalo wasn’t it? had some success there for a short time until they got LeSean then he stopped getting touches, and i think fizzled out. Gills, was never a world beater back he was just a very rounded player. Scarlett has more potential to hit the highly productive back status, so im not trying to kill his ability to be great by comparing him to a guy who ended up with an somewhat average career, even if not a little short, but its more the rounded skills set that normally comes with a UF back because of the offense they generally run.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I remember Gillislee fumbling a couple of times after nice runs, one being a 50 yarder so that will get you a seat on the bench.

    • D says:

      Florida had Scarlett and LaMichael Perine in the backfield being a tandem, Scarlett was more the bruiser, downhill type and Perine more one-cut with burst acceleration.

      • D says:

        Both were interchangeable though so they could run pass plays with both, get good pass pro out of either, but as runners they were a little bit different skill set. Look at Perine’s highlights and you will see what i mean. Couple other guys who are solid well rounded backs, are in the NFL right now having decent just not flashy careers. Matt Jones (was the Washington Football Teams starting RB.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      He was pretty good in NE for a little while too

  77. Krishna says:

    ^Looks like…

  78. steveccnv says:

    Herd, are you going to Vegas for your BD? If so what dates?

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      No she’s coming to Miami like you should

    • herdfan says:

      I honestly don’t know what I’m doing. I’ve been looking to buy a house. I’ve been leasing since I made the big move out. But now, I can live anywhere. Don’t have to go back to the office to work so I’m expanding my search. My kids are grown or nearly so, I don’t need the size house I’m in, I really didn’t need this size with them both here.(This is me trying to convince myself to NOT buy the house I’m leasing, which I LOVE). I don’t even have to live in WV anymore but I doubt I move too far away. But I could…. Too damn many options now!

      As far as Vegas, we might go to Vegas, even though the schedule messed up my plan. I could come to the Fest. I’m trying to find out if my sister and other friend are interested in tagging along…good grief, not sure I even want to bring them. I’ll be seeing both of them Memorial Day weekend, so hopefully can figure out a plan, but doubtful. Not really how we roll.

      • Krishna says:

        LMAO…..what’s a girl to do? Awesome!

      • CavalierKong says:

        You sound like my wife. Make a dang decision already. We really don’t have to be here 20 minutes just to figure out if you want fries with that, lol. 😉

      • CavalierKong says:

        Buying a house is a huge decision and an expensive trip can be too, so obviously I’m kidding around, lol. But you never know how these things might read differently than intended, so I’ll state it clearly 🙂

      • herdfan says:

        It’s ok, I understand. I’m just providing the most honest answer I have! It literally is what my thought process is….scary huh?

      • CavalierKong says:

        Herd, the ‘trying to find out about sister and friend, but not really sure if you want to bring them’ had me rolling, and was what actually got me to respond.

        My wife’s sister is…well she’s her sister, so of course she wants to do stuff with her, but at the same time she requires a lot of maintenance, so it’s always a back and forth in her head about whether to include sis or not. Not saying it’s the same thing with your sis, but that is what went through my noggin 😂

      • herdfan says:

        Omg…it’s like you know her already! 😂

      • CavalierKong says:


      • steveccnv says:

        Move to FL, lots of good priced neighborhoods, but not sure you can get the value or lower prices, like in WV

  79. Krishna says:

    CK….right on! For me, it’s always been fun to watch. I love it. You need to empower the choice quickly….so there’s that.

    • CavalierKong says:

      We have an understanding about these things with the kinks worked out carefully over the years. She’ll try and order as quickly as she can, and I’ll suffer patiently or regret it if I don’t, lol.

  80. Krishna says:

    The best part is when a woman asks your opinion because of all the choices. Then, the challenge begins. Again, I love it because you feel part of plan and you know you have some say. Lol….

  81. Krishna says:

    Lmao….yep. It’s beautiful.

  82. Rockphin says:

    Miss Monalisa Vito is soooo freaking that spangled purple dress.
    {stream of consciousness}

  83. son of a son of a shula says:

    Ha ha I’m watching too. She is hot and she aged well too.
    You saying spangled sounds kind of gay…

  84. Marinofan13 says:

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Starting @ 2:04… those eyes are bloody weird. I mean, WEIRD.

      Otherwise(!), I like this cat, and think he’s going to be prolific in our future.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Anyone else think Austin at 21 years old speaks like he’s a 30 year old vet?

      Gee I wonder why we drafted this kid so young at #18 last year. Oh right, he’s also talented and 6-5 325. 🙂

  85. Tim Knight says:

    Have you all noticed that when Grier was given the top dog job he hired Brian Flores as HC who is not a specific guru of one area of football, but an overall football coach? Not only that, but how they went about acquiring draft capital and cutting cap for a complete rebuild. That has become a trend. The Giants Joe Judge, the Jets Robert Saleh and the Lions Dan Campbell to name a few. They all did the same thing. The genius coordinator has given way to a leader of men and a guy who coaches every phase and play, not just his speciality.

    • steveccnv says:

      Yes, he’s an overall coach, but he is a D guru, and that has made him a good head coach.

      Where would we be without him being a D guru?

      He’d be just an average coach

      • Tim Knight says:

        Meaning that’s not his only focus like Gase sitting by himself on the bench with his tablet of plays while the game is still going on. You’re a HC not just the OC now.

      • D says:

        Man i wish i had applied then, i mean i know D better than any of them.

  86. D says:

    steveccnv says:
    May 20, 2021 at 9:24 pm
    Move to FL, lots of good priced neighborhoods, but not sure you can get the value or lower prices, like in WV
    Plenty of places that might not be in the bigger city markets where the real estate is really reasonable. My target retirement/self-employed/working from home all the time location would be in the Orlando area, some of the towns around there are quaint and affordable and still in the range to travel to Disney to walk around Epcot World Showcase anytime id want.

    • steveccnv says:

      Orlando just seems too big city (traffic) but being off the coast the prices are decent, cheaper than LV

      • D says:

        Yeah thats why im thinking like something outside the city, in one of the suburbs where its quiet and reasonable for day to day thing but you can venture into Disney as needed. Im big on Disney and would love to have a season ticket and come ang go as many times as i cared to. I think it would be almost surreal for going to the Parks to be weekly thing just to chill out and learn to experience Disney as at a lot slower pace. When its a one week visit you have to cram in as much as ya can in a compressed timeframe, im sure just bopping over for a lunch at Fran in the world showcase, or grab a beer or two at Germany, enjoy the fireworks, head home would be really neat.

      • D says:

        Also, retirement dollars go further without a state tax.

      • D says:

        Maybe get an adopt a geezer job at one of the parks lol.

  87. D says:

    Rockphin says:
    May 20, 2021 at 9:20 pm
    Miss Monalisa Vito is soooo freaking that spangled purple dress.
    {stream of consciousness}
    Probably hotter out of it, just saying. She has always had a quality to her that was sexy.

  88. Marinofan13 says:

  89. steveccnv says:

    The never ending talk of Fins/Tua taking the next step.

    In year 1 we started as the worst team in the history of the NFL, then finished with 5 wins the last 9 weeks.

    Isn’t that taking the next step year 1?

    In year 2 we started 1-3, then turned it around winning 9 of 12.

    Isn’t that taking the next step from the year before?

    In year 3 it all depends on if Tua can take the next step.

    Isn’t that true for every team not named Chiefs and Bucs, can they take the next step?

    • D says:

      Yeah i was about to comment that it was a fluff piece just to bring that discussion back up again and get clicks. All players at all position need to progress, and it needs to be at whatever pace if good with the coaches. The coaches have shown they aren’t worried about moving on from a player if they feel its the right time or they can get better from others, so im not worried about putting fan expectation on a player and being pissy when they don’t reach it. Ever considered your evaluation and expectations aren’t exactly professional grade?

      Thats how i was with Tanny i waited patiently for several years until it was pretty obvious it wasn’t happening. I mean you can debate all day if it was the coaching or the player or whatever, but end of the day, even if it was the coaches, it wasn’t working and we held on WAY too long. People bitch and complain about him now doing better (ill stop short of great because that success is largely on the running game), but the same people are like year i think year 2 is all we should give Tua lol. I mean come on, listen to your self people its ridiculous.

      • steveccnv says:

        RT still hasn’t progressed to where he can win an SB. His pocket presence is just too poor and his check down mentality doesn’t get it done.

        The stats thru 3 qtrs aren’t that important, when you can’t win the close games at the end.

        The year KC won it all Majomes was below par for his standard, but got it done when it mattered. The year before and last year he was lights out, but didn’t win the SB.

        Small sample size, but I’d rather have the can’t stop at the end of the game version of Mahomes

  90. D says:

    Man no one bit on the joke i made above…so disappointed, but maybe its just because today’s posting has been pretty slow.

  91. Marinofan13 says:

    I thought Armando’s article was interesting. He showed what the league averages are from year one to year two for the average QB… from 2010-present.

    If Tua can just make an ‘average’ leap from year one to year two, we’re talking playoffs, based on his play alone. My expectations are far greater for Tua, so I certainly wouldn’t call it a fluff piece, but that’s just me.

    Yes, we’re going to be seeing some garbage articles from now on and for awhile, being we’ve reached the doldrums, but I liked the above article.

  92. Marinofan13 says:

    I think my expectations for Tua would be the following…

    32+ TDs, 8- INTs, 3,500+ passing yards, 66+ completion%, 105.0+ passer rating

    No, I didn’t plug the first 4 stats into a passer rating calculator, so maybe his passer rating would be higher if he achieves the first 4 stats. Plus, I’m not going to guess sack totals being the O-Line must be factored.

    These are just baseline and ballpark expectations coming from me, and I do believe they are attainable.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Oh yeah, I just based those numbers above on a 16-game season. Add a couple/few more TDs and yards.

    • stangerx says:

      If that is your baseline can I lock it down right now? Whole town would be happy with that.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Baseline expectations, hence the + after each stat. If Tua hits my expectations, yes, the whole town should be proud.

    • sb7mvp says:

      I think the TD prediction is a bit too optimistic. I feel 24-26 would be more in line with Tua’s second year. If he gets 28-29, then I’ll be pleasantly surprised.

    • steveccnv says:

      4-1 TDs to Ints would make Tua elite

      • steveccnv says:

        5 QBs achieved that last year, but a lot had to do with holding penalties way down.

        Allen broke out in some part due to this holding stat.

        How they call it this year will determine a lot of how the stats go

      • stangerx says:

        But Tua doesn’t throw many picks. Only 5 last year. So wouldn’t be that shocking if he got 20 TDs….. it’s what we want.

      • steveccnv says:

        5 ints in half a season doubled is how many?

      • stangerx says:

        But he threw 3 in the last Bills game, which doesn’t count. Double the 2 before and add a bit and we are back to 5. 🙂

        His INTs don’t concern me….. his TD total does.

      • steveccnv says:

        Lol his 3 Bills ints don’t count.

        He doesn’t throw many ints, until he does

    • stangerx says:

      steve — are you one of those guys who counts runs over 9 yards?

  93. stangerx says:

    “He’s competitive. He’s tough. And he’s going to do exactly what the coaches ask of him. I expect Austin to make a big jump in his second year.”
    — Andrew Van Ginkel on Jackson, and sorta admitting there is room for a jump up.

    • steveccnv says:

      Traditionally rookie OL suck in year 1, and many nake the jump in year 2, but may be harder this year based on officiating

  94. Marinofan13 says:

    sb7mvp says:
    May 21, 2021 at 1:59 pm
    I think the TD prediction is a bit too optimistic. I feel 24-26 would be more in line with Tua’s second year. If he gets 28-29, then I’ll be pleasantly surprised.
    I hear ya, SB7. What made me a bit too optimistic? My lack of faith in our ground game. Truthfully, 28-29 TDs would be fine by me, so long as it translates to wins.

    Should Tua not meet my lofty expectations, that would not mean he didn’t ROCK for us. I just have a very good feeling about that kid!

    • Marinofan13 says:

      The above should read: My lack of faith in our ground game is what made me a bit too optimistic about Tua’s TD total I’d projected.

      I don’t want the typed word to be misinterpreted solely as me questioning you as “What made me a bit too optimistic?”. I’m sure you understood what I meant, though!

  95. bailbondmike says:

    I was thinking same about Tua’s pass TD’s not being that high but only because our rush TD’s may be up. So I am thinking the opposite of our ground game. Our rookie OL from last year got a ton of snaps and experience. I see them to be much improved this year. Add in the threat of our new WR corps and Gesicki and our running game will be much improved. If Tua has 25+ pass TD’s and our rush TD’s are up, we will be in a great position. I feel our rush TD’s will be up to include a healthy scrambling Tua in that group.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Can’t argue with that logic, either… I hear you too, BBM. I think I (and others) may be a bit hung up on not getting a stud RB early in this Draft.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Not many teams have stud RBs, and do the teams that do win championships? I believe the last team to win the Super Bowl because they had a “stud” RB was Seattle over Denver in 2014 with Lynch. But they also had a badass defense and a playmaking QB.

  96. Tim Knight says:

    We all know that an offense starts with big boys up front. So any production we have in the pass and run game starts with their performance. We saw a great example of that in the Super Bowl. You can be loaded with skill players and struggle to move the ball and score points if you can’t block the plays.

  97. bailbondmike says:

    Marinofan13 says:
    May 21, 2021 at 3:32 pm
    Can’t argue with that logic, either… I hear you too, BBM. I think I (and others) may be a bit hung up on not getting a stud RB early in this Draft.
    Oh, I am still with you guys on that. If you saw my posting of my post 2021 early 2022 mock draft (LOL), I drafted an OC and 2 RB’s. lol

    • D says:

      Thing about RB’s is i don’t know that i have seen a draft where there wasnt at least a handful of really strong RB prospects. Its not a position you have to worry about getting a guy THAT year, because there will be plenty of other chances.

      Last year with Pitts was a once in a decade player imo, sorry PP, so the effort taken to get him, in a class that otherwise was pretty weak, and with an upcoming class that right now doesn’t look crazy good, may have been worth it to stay at 3 and take him there, we didn’t and we still got a top end playmaker, but there is probably a bigger argument for having stayed at 3 to ensure we got pits over not taking Harris in the first with pick 18.I was on team Najee since before the last college season was over, but i promise you there is a Najee in this next class, and a Etienne, and a Williams.

  98. stangerx says:

    We lost 56-26.
    The Bills didn’t have all that much to play for.
    Josh Allen sat at half.
    The score kept going up.
    Yeah the last game against the Bills bothers me. I know Tua threw 3 picks, but they kept passing on us at will. Open receivers would just catch the ball and flop down to avoid injury.

    Offensive problems accept. But does our D need to improve that much? Or did they have the answer to our scheme? Was a real important game for us and their 2’s took it to our 1’s.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It really felt like we hit a wall in that game as in we went as far as we could, and simply didn’t have enough to compete with one the best teams in the league that was on a mission. The Bills won their last 6 games in impressive fashion including two more wins in the playoffs before falling to the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game.

      • steveccnv says:


        We caught a hot team, with nothing to play for (easy to play loose), on the road, missing some top WRs and an emotionally fragile QB.

        Sometimes you just have to throwbthe tape away

      • stangerx says:

        Sorta sets a bench mark for us. Would be great to win the AFC East.

  99. sb7mvp says:

    30+ TD’s is a lot for a QB to get in one year, especially a QB going into their second season on a team with so many question marks on the offensive side of the ball.

    • D says:

      Yeah that was the number that jumped out at me and 8 ints is a really low number too, not that its not doable i just think as for an expectation its tough. My point about fan expectations was more along the lines of not having numbers you need for them to hit and just watch for progression, which stats don’t always show that. We will know by the end of next year if he progressed or not, and whether it was enough to be happy with.

  100. steveccnv says:

    Stop the presses, Phil Mickelson is in the clubhouse at -5 with the lead

  101. D says:

    OL is probably the most difficult place to adjust to NFL speed. CB is a tough one too. Its also two places where the lightbulb has to go off and its like ok this is why doing this is so important. Its part of why i put OL and some of the skills i place as a higher priority over some of the others skills or physical stats like size/arm length/etc. You don’t have good feet those first few years even likely your whole career is going to have a steep curve to it. One of the things i most liked about Hunt was the fact that he picked up the speed of the game and was to adjust his playing to compensate very quickly. He had what i thought was a pretty impressive year.

    • D says:

      A lot of the other position the way ya play is the same, you just have to beat better opponents, those other two position have to refine how they play on top of figuring out how to deal with better players.

  102. Tim Knight says:

    What if this is our starting 5 this year? Oh that’s right… a 6 foot QB can’t throw over such tall guys. LOL

    LT Jackson 6-5 325, 2nd
    LG Kindley 6-4 330, 2nd
    C Deiter 6-6 310, 3rd
    RG Hunt 6-6 325, 2nd
    RT Eichenberg 6-6 310, Rookie

    • D says:

      If they are blocking right then it doesn’t matter because they should be opening the front of that pocket up so he can escape if he needs to and also step up to make a throw with no person in his face. If they don’t open up the throwing lanes, then yeah we wont be able to see as well but good QB’s will shift to get the open viewpoint, if they are blocking well enough to give him one. 5 ft QB’s could play in the NFL if they were crafty enough and know how to create their lanes. I mean Murry is pretty much 5ft isn’t he?

      Funny think i find about the Tua being too short argument is how many QB’s out there that are the face of their franchise and were shorter than him and how many through history. You would be surprised how many QB’s aren’t as tall as you remember them in your mind. When i looked it up i was shocked (though maybe i shouldn’t be since I’m not old enough to really remember Frank Tarkenton, but Tua is very slightly taller than he was. Baker Mayfield, and Tua are pretty much the same height, so in Jalen Hurts who a lot here seem to love, and Drew Brees, and Russel Wilson who is shorter, and Murray, who is shorter, and there are a fuck tone of 6’2 guys including Rogers. I think way too much is made over height.

      Also, watching Alabama Football as part of the SEC division i follow….umm he threw behind some monster fucking duded on the OL on his way to championships. Its not like he has been throwing behind a big OL for the first time ever. I know you werent saying that Tim, im just over the whole “they cant” when they have already proven they can.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah man, I was joking. People act like OL are just static redwood trees and don’t move. It’s always about movement and passing lanes.

        Is being a tall QB somewhat of an advantage? Sure! But some of them still can’t see the forest for the trees. 😉

      • D says:

        Osweiler was 6’8, Drew Brees 6′. Depends on what ya do with that advantage.

  103. Marinofan13 says:

    Perhaps instead of using the word “expectations” in regard to Tua’s numbers this year, I should have used the word ‘attainable’. That is — if all goes to plan — there’s no reason why Tua can’t attain the numbers I gave him up the board… and possibly even exceed them in this pass-happy league.

    And should he fall short of my numbers, there will be rhyme and reason (the TAPE, injuries, etc). In other words, numbers don’t mean squat so long as he leads our team in the right direction. I don’t seek to set Tua up for failure with lofty number projections, I’m just sayin’ that don’t be surprised if he attains my numbers above.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I sometimes do this stat stuff with expectations then I stop, because I’m maybe cutting them short. Let’s watch it happen. Games are not always won with gaudy stats. Good situational football wins a lot of games. That’s what I think we’re building here. Lots of smart players.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Tim, we have no choice but to watch it happen, man! 😉

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Sufficed to say, I have a very good feeling about our Phins this year.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Of course! But what I see in a lot of our young players is; they’re smart, self motivated and not divas. Talent vs. smart = winning.

        You’ve recently beat yourself up over predictions. Don’t worry about that. None of us are psychics.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Meant to say talent plus smart = winning.

    • D says:

      Had Waddle on the same rating as Lawrence and Phillips was just below them. Both our players were rated higher than Zach Wilson.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I’d seen this earlier… interesting. However, it’s only one team’s ratings.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yep saw that earlier. Reportedly we had Waddle as the 2nd best prospect after Lawrence. One thing we know for sure is we drafted him before Sewell and Parsons.

      • D says:

        I think it’s just the idea that we were not overvaluing him. It’s good sometimes to see other teams having similar takes as ours because sometimes we are overly critical of those decisions.

  104. Marinofan13 says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 21, 2021 at 7:37 pm
    Of course! But what I see in a lot of our young players is; they’re smart, self motivated and not divas. Talent vs. smart = winning.

    You’ve recently beat yourself up over predictions. Don’t worry about that. None of us are psychics.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I think you and I are on the exact same page: smart, self-motivated, non-diva, and talent plus smart.

      The future looks good!

  105. steveccnv says:

    Marchand just got leveled by Oveckin, and his helmet fell off, he looks like Hitler😝

  106. son of a son of a shula says:

  107. Marinofan13 says:

    D says:
    May 21, 2021 at 9:08 pm
    I think it’s just the idea that we were not overvaluing him. It’s good sometimes to see other teams having similar takes as ours because sometimes we are overly critical of those decisions.
    Agreed, but I’d like to see what other teams had as THEIR eval on players. Not sure I’d take what the Jags eval as ‘gospel’, if you know what I’m saying.

    I’d like to know what the Chiefs, Patsies*, Ravens, Bucs, Rams, and 49ers had, for example. But it really doesn’t matter: we’re rolling with who we drafted, and methinks most are happy with our Draft class… as am I! 😀

  108. pheloniusphish says:

    This web site hates me.

  109. Randy says:

    I’ve said it a bunch of times already. The biggest key for a guy like Tua is actually having good guard play and not tackle play. Those inside guys have to be able to provide throwing lanes and keep guys out of a shorter QB’s face so he can make plays on time. Tua can scramble, but he’s best from inside the pocket. He’s not throwing over guys. He will be throwing between guys. Play action is also very important….so having a legitimate running game will be big.

  110. herdfan says:

    Can someone post hotels or general location to be, or to avoid please?

    • Ken says:

      A lot of people tend to stay at Margaritaville

      • The Flying Pig says:

        This is a map of Hollywood beach with Margarittsville as the center point.

        Magarativille was my best stay
        Next door to it I also stayed at Hotel Sheldon I think Bookman stayed there once too. It’s Right Next door and it’s a decent hotel IMO

        Some people have stated in Neptune before
        It’a north of margaritaville on the map and walking distance

        Between margratoville and Neptune is pretty much the area we all spend time with. There’s plenty of food, drink festivities on the boardwalk and a few hotels

        A few years ago, I remember seeing construction so there might be more choices this year

        I stayed one year at the Hollywood beach tower – and I don’t recommend it. It’s south of MARGARITVILLE but walking distance

        That’s the general area we all stay

        There’s a lot of hotels on that boardwalk. It’s worth staying at a place on that boardwalk IMO it just really depends what you want in a hotel

    • stangerx says:

      Hollywood Beach is where most folks stay, but you could do Miami or Fort Lauderdale as well…. but would probably need to rent a car (Miami is a ways). Hollywood is a better value, has a nice beach, and a neat bunch of places.

      Sat night we all get together at Dave & Busters in Hollywood, which ain’t far. Also about the closest beach to the stadium. If Toba is allowed out of Canada, he always sets up game day transportation.

  111. Krishna says:

    I like the Walkabout….chi chi little place with Tiki Bar outside on the premises on the boardwalk.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I’m a tiki bar fan myself

    • Krishna says:

      As Piggy said, there are lot’s of places to stay and depends on what you want. Easy walk to Margaritaville from Walkabout and tons of places to eat in between the two and beyond. Next door is the Hilton (I think or Marriott or one of the big hotels) with a nice breakfast.

      If anyone’s game, one of the days (I will probably rent a car) I will head to the Rustic Inn (as these are my old stomping grounds), that has great soft shell crab that Mrs. K loved. She said it was the best she had ever had. It’s an old building on one of the canals to the ocean. Was hoping one day Mr and Mrs Stanger and the Krishna’s would have dinner. It’s nothing fancy for sure with peanut shells all over the floor……lol.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        I recall one night during the fest , we all decided to meet up for dinner, googled some place to eat .. all went there expecting menu we had googled , burgers through to seafood.. got there and obviously wrong place.ballpark 70.00 bucks a head for dinner … but we did see Channing Crowder. Good times LOL

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Peanut shells sound more our speed 😊

      • stangerx says:

        That would have been a nice meal. And my better half liked yours a lot.

      • Krishna says:

        Be happy to point the way….

        Like I said nothing fancy and plenty fried….

      • Krishna says:

        Mrs K loved all the wives of you fucks. You should all consider yourselves lucky!

  112. stangerx says:

    “You know, we can look back at a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star, and they were definitely treated like second-class citizens so much so that they were put in trains and taken to gas chambers in Nazi Germany And this is exactly the type of abuse that Nancy Pelosi is talking about.”
    —- Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene on the House mask requirement…… GOP has its very own AOC

    • Tim Knight says:

      People need to stop comparing stuff to Nazi’s when it’s not even close to being that.

      • stangerx says:

        My first wife’s grandmother was on Schindler’s List. Heard some stories wish I hadn’t. It’s so incredibly disrespectful.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Absolutely! I know many stories like that from family, friends and colleagues. Making comparisons like that is incredibly disrespectful, ignorant and irresponsible.

      • stangerx says:

        Not surprisingly , the reason saw what she said was cause a bunch of Jewish organizations had a most distinct problem with her words as well.

  113. steveccnv says:

    Is the 24th of Oct the fest date? Planning on being in FL in Oct to look for retirement areas.

    I have places to stay all over FL, so won’t need a hotel, Miramar is my So. FL spot

    • Krishna says:


    • stangerx says:

      Set it up. There is no doubt there will be a Fest with the game on Oct 24, a get together on the 23rd and hopefully tunes with the dog on the 22nd (haven’t asked him yet). All in Hollywood , so close to Miramar.

  114. steveccnv says:

    Rangers just scored, some faggy lookin dude behind the goal seemed awful happy (Zach Wilson)

  115. olddolphan says:

    MANITOBA–CONGRATS TO YOUR JETS for totally locking down the favored high powered Oilers!! The Jets now lead that series 2-0.
    CHEAP SHOT TIME AT AMALIE ARENA IN TAMPS TODAY. DOWN 6-2 in the 3rd period, Joel Quennville, head coach of the Panthers, sens out a goon to clip the Bolts Nikita Kucherov from behind, slashing the back of his knee! Kucherov, who missed the ENTIRE regular season with hip surgery, went down in a heap!!

    In another playoff game, the Colorado Avalanche just had a star player SUSPENDED BY THE LEAGUE FOR 8 GAMES after a cheap shot to a Blues’ player, who was hospitalized and out for the rest of the playoffs!! IF “KOOCH” is out for the rest of the playoffs, the Bolts can forget about winning the Cup this season!!

    I’m hoping both the Panthers’ goon and coach “Q” receive massive fines and suspensions for this gutless act.
    PS: Scheduling the Fest in late October is way preferable to mid-September (which is the height of the hurricane season). I WILL BE THERE!

  116. manitobafinfan says:

    ThAnX OD. Quite surprised at the outcome based on crappy Jets played down the stretch .. and we’ve done it without Ehlers, who should be back for Sunday’s game

  117. pheloniusphish says:

    So….not allowed to compare anything to the Holocaust? No learning from history? Holocaust is the sloe property of the survivors and their descendants?

    Purges and dictatorships tend to start off with seemingly innocuous things that are ‘for ou own good.’ Better we follow the frog-in-boiling-water’s lead, I guess.

    • stangerx says:

      The woman was comparing in detail people getting gassed to her having to wear a mask on the floor of the House.

      I talk about watching my Mom die of cancer and someone replies by saying he understands cause of the cold he has….. yeah will find that at least a bit insensitive.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Then you missed the point. To use your example (my Mom died of cancer when I was 36), we should never talk about early screenings for cancer because we are healthy now and why bring it up if it is going to upset someone. Best way to ensure another Holocaust, or dying from cancer, is to ignore those things that led up to them.

      • stangerx says:

        Don’t think you will see above me saying to ignore such issues, but there are other ways to talk about them. Most be are able to do that. But her comment was hurtful.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Didn’t Trump get called Hitler and a racist in ridiculous ways? Just become something isn’t good does not mean it’s Nazism. We’re so extreme these days. Not buying the frog in boiling water analogy. There is so much information out there these days that many people on both sides of the political aisle pounce on it the moment it is said and done. Nothing is really that secret anymore except for the… “secret society.” 😉

  118. stangerx says:

    So the Jags did their own behind the draft video, but they neglected to blur up their board enough.

    Unsure what their ratings scale is but they gave Trevor Lawrence an 8.0. At another part of the vid you see Waddle also got an 8.0 and that Jaelan Phillips got a 7.5.

    Sure seems they liked our top 2 picks.

    Full —

    • Tim Knight says:

      There have been many reports that Waddle and Phillips were highly rated. Some pundits were saying pre-draft that Waddle should be in the conversation with Pitts and Chase. Phillips seemed to be labeled as probably the best prototype pass rusher. He checks off all the boxes as far as size, speed, strength and football skills. I loved that we added explosiveness on offense and edge pressure with our first two picks. Needed both and got two top rated prospects.

  119. pheloniusphish says:

    Stanger/Tim – Do you support forcible vaccination?

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Forced vaccination

      • stangerx says:

        No — but do support seat belt laws.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        So, you don’t have to have the shot. Do you support vaccine passport systems?

        Regarding seatbelt laws….who gets hurt by not wearing a seatbelt?

      • stangerx says:

        Wheeling around topics on this. I at least support people being able to prove they have been vaccinated.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        So if they can’t, or choose not to, prove they have been vaccinated what happens? Are they restricted from the freedoms that those who can or will prove it have?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Which rights do I lose? The right o gather? The right OT travel freely?

      • stangerx says:

        Phelon –I have no idea what happens if people can prove they are not vaccinated. Do know I would like to be able too. And seems since it is my medical history that I should be able too. And I am vaccinated. If you are not and you can’t go on a say cruise then either get the vax or don’t go on the cruise. Seems pretty simple and still your choice.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Jeez…either I’ve had too many drinks or autocorrect is out of control. To gather and to travel.

    • Tim Knight says:

      No! But it’s not like this country has not forced citizens to do stuff throughout history. Taking young men as teens out of their homes and destroying their dreams as a “free citizen” by sending them to foreign wars was the most totalitarian thing there is.

      Where was the choice in that?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        That is a straw man argument. Nothing to do with the current topic. Although I am happy to debate the merits of the draft from either side if you like.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Really? I’m talking about the government abusing its power to deny a citizen their “freedom” to not go to war, but that’s not valid here? How many young men died due to the draft? What other policy killed more than that?

        Forget about what the situation and politics were, the government forced their citizens to do it. Isn’t that what the topic was about?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        The to[ic is whether we can compare anything to the Holocaust. Not government overreach.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Stanger – You could also choose to not cruise if you are worried about your personal well being. If you’re vaccinated, you don’t have a worry. Theoretically. The un-vaccinated are willing to risk the virus, why should you care?

      • stangerx says:

        The cruise line can set up whatever rules it wants. Their boats…. seems their right. You want the government to step in?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Should the government step in whenever there is a case of discrimination?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        What if the cruise line says no Jews? After all, Judaism is a choice.

      • stangerx says:

        phelon — pretty clear you feel strongly about the rights of the unvaccinated. I see it as a health issue and my basic take is all they have to do is get vaccinated. So not like being black or Jewish. It’s a matter of choice.

        Same time I don’t really care that much. You asked about vaccine passports and said would like to prove have gotten the vaccine. Should I not be able to do that? Seems a strange world where I am not allowed.

  120. Marinofan13 says:

    Tim and I had touched on this a few days ago… how so many young QBs are prematurely discarded at the cost of winning NOW, in today’s NFL. This video pretty much sums up what we were discussing, and as it pertains to Tua…

  121. Marinofan13 says:

    I didn’t mean to interrupt the convo between y’all. Please, continue.

  122. Tim Knight says:

    Wow I just wrote a whole thing and it said sorry can’t post that. It’s gone.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I HATE it when that happens!!! I always save if I wrote something lengthy, before hitting send.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I normally do too but not this time. The gist of it was freedom. What does it mean to any of us? Do we really believe in it or is it just something we say?

  123. Marinofan13 says:

    One other thing I’d like to share… on my way home from work this evening, I was listening to Bucky Brooks on FSR. MUCH has been made of the 3 QBs (Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson, and now Aaron Rodgers), trying to be their own GM/Coach… trying to emulate what Tom Lady* did in Tampa Bay last year.

    Bucky killed it: Brady was a FA, had honored his contract, while the other 3 QBs are acting like divas after signing for HUGE $$$ and are still under contract.

    Is the NFL is becoming like the NBA? It’s something others here have brought up, and I’m seeing it, too. Not a good look for the sport.

    • Tim Knight says:

      There are signs of that but football (NFL) really doesn’t work the same way as the NBA. Two big time players don’t win championships in the NFL. We’ve seen that for years.

  124. Randy says:

    We had a President who incited a riot against our own government and most Republicans and his supporters want us all to forget it happened and move on to a more loving, accepting and cooperative future….to work together. Our current President has flipped and flopped on a number of things over the years….and acted like what he said before never happened. I would say selective amnesia is something many of us suffer from. It just depends on which side you’re on. This divide is nothing new. What is new is how these things have become weaponized….and we’ve done it to ourselves.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m no fan of Trump, but he didn’t incite a riot. You chose to believe that. That said, his cult following did. We love to blame one person when it’s many of us as citizens that do stupid shit. It’s easier to fire one person than the entire group.

      Both parties are engaged in really bad stuff but politics puts blinders on lemmings to defend they’re preferred ideology. It’s so fuckin obvious!!!

      Everyone thinks they have the answer. No you don’t. We’re all bias. Some us still believe in freedom though. 😉

  125. son of a son of a shula says:

    Seattle and Green Bay should trade straight up.
    Deshaun, despite rumblings Eagles want him, will end up in Denver I believe.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Good take!

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Many believe A-Rod will end up in Denver, but I could see what you’re talking about happening, too.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m not in the know of all the accusations but the amount of it should push Deshaun out of the NFL. How the fuck can we be in this overly sensitive society and allow him to resume his career like nothing ever happened?

      As a GM I wouldn’t touch him.

  126. CavalierKong says:

    I am wholeheartedly against forced vaccinations and vaccination passports, but I believe businesses should be able to make their own rules in that regard.

    The government stepping in and stopping businesses from setting there own rules regarding vaccinations (i.e. calling it discrimination if they say no vax, no business) would be making anti-vaxers a protected class. Do we really think anti-vaxers should be a protected class?

    • CavalierKong says:


    • CavalierKong says:

      For clarity- my use of the term ‘anti-vaxer’ in this context, I’m talking the COVID vax, not true anti-vaxers.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      I don’t necessarily disagree, but I would say that medical status is already a de facto protected class (HIPPA).

      • CavalierKong says:

        That’s a solid point, but vaccinations are already required for things like public school enrollment. If we can do that on a public level, business should be able to do the same in limited scope.

  127. Marinofan13 says:

    You guys talking about forced vax vs freedom… all good!

    I wonder if the NFL is going to force all their players to get vaxed? Haven’t heard anything, one way or the other. Most obviously, there will be those who object, either way. Something to keep an eye on…

    • Marinofan13 says:

      ‘Precedence’ is half the game, so I look forward to seeing how the NFL vs NFLPA plays out on this topic.

  128. Randy says:

    I know what I saw and heard…before, during and after. You’re free to believe whatever you want. There were dozens of examples I could’ve used for Trump. That wasn’t the point.

  129. CavalierKong says:

    I don’t want to do a big ol Trump thing, but I think legally, Trump didn’t incite a riot. He mentioned being peaceful because he’s smart enough to protect himself. I think the impeachment over it was a farce.

    But realistically, what he did was whip the crowd into a frenzy and send them over to the Capitol building frothing at the mouth and with blood in their eyes. That doesn’t absolve any of the idiots that took part. They are responsible for their own actions.

    But to say Trump bears no responsibility for what followed is wrong IMO. It’s the same shyte as certain democrats whipping up crowds last summer or that jackass Waters talking about protesting more confrontationally towards police (or whatever the hell she said). Our public leaders can’t say these things, then claim no responsibility. Or if they can, then it has to work both ways.

  130. Marinofan13 says:

    pheloniusphish says:
    May 22, 2021 at 8:42 pm
    I don’t necessarily disagree, but I would say that medical status is already a de facto protected class (HIPPA).
    MUCH talk about this (HIPPA) where I’m at, Phelon. Hearing that it may have to reach state courts, if not ultimately the Supreme Court. And of course, that could take a very long time (SMH).

    Your points are well taken, and some are already fighting the good fight up here in PA, man.

  131. stangerx says:

    How does HIPPA come into play? The law protects from the unauthorized release of medical info. Point one in it is that any individual can release their own medical info. Unless they have changed since I was dealing with it, has nothing to do with a person proving this or that status to get say a job. That falls under the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) , even if doubt covers vaccination status.

    But then any law can be stretched.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      But what you are suggesting is that if you don’t disclose you will be punished.

      • stangerx says:

        Or at least not be eligible for something. Vax or not, disclose or not would be the choice of the person. Just giving my impression of the law.

  132. Tim Knight says:

    Can I ask all of you are you simply drawn to a persona that makes you do things you wouldn’t normally do? When does it become about a cult mentality? The conservatives and the left both do it. Are you a free thinking individual or a lemming? We’re a nation of about 330 million people and we let a few thousand speak for us. Seriously? Think about that for more than a minute.

    The greatest melting pot on earth is under siege and we just act like it’s not a real thing. Good luck!

    We will all die. Oh right it’s about the children. Some of them will become assholes too. Stop the madness!

  133. Marinofan13 says:

    5-10 years from now…

    “If you were one of the millions who took the COVID-19 vaccine in late 2020- early 2021, and have experienced any of the following…

    – 3rd nostril growing
    – turning on the microwave makes you piss your pants and you forget who you are for half an hour
    – you honestly believe that Geraldo Rivera is a time-traveler
    – you mistake your toilet brush as your tooth brush
    – you have extra digits on your hands, and you try slamming them off by wedging them between your oven and the oven door

    You have the legal right to claim what was wrongfully done to you. Call us at 1-800-UFU-CKED”

  134. Marinofan13 says:

    Seriously and scientifically speaking, this COVID-19 vaccine has not been tested accurately, long enough, nor do we know the long-term affects of it. So why is the government actually incentivising folks to get the vaccine?

    It recently came out from the CDC that up to nearly 40% of their own won’t take the vaccine. Hmmm…

    • stangerx says:

      I don’t believe for a second that 40% of CDC employees won’t get vaccinated. I especially don’t believe that if true they would put that out to the public. Where do you get that?

      • Marinofan13 says:

        It was all over the place this past week, Stanger. It’s getting late for me this evening, otherwise I’d dig it up for you and post it here, man. I’m NOT joking around, either.

        This country is so sadly split what with it’s news… BY DESIGN.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        OH! It came out of Fauci’s mouth this past week.

      • stangerx says:


        Contrary to claims by social media users, two top U.S. officials involved in the COVID-19 vaccination rollout in the country did not say that 40% to 50% of CDC and FDA employees are refusing to get immunized.

        The social media posts, referring to Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and Peter Marks, director of the Food and Drug Administration’s Center for Biologics Evaluation, misinterpret comments made by the officials about vaccination levels in their organizations.

  135. Marinofan13 says:

    And lastly, the CDC has just revealed that COVID-19 has a 98-99% recovery rate. That’s not a pandemic, folks… you’ve been fooled/lied to. So why this BIG PUSH to get the shot, I ask? What’s in it for them, and what do I lose in exchange?

    • CavalierKong says:

      Honestly, I think things like forced vax, vax passports, mask mandates, etc are good and necessary conversations to have, but this other stuff, like the whole COVID thing is a hoax, I don’t buy into at all.

      I’m not telling what to talk about, or implying you shouldn’t say your piece, you do you, bro. I’m just letting you know why I personally don’t respond to these particular things when you bring them up.

  136. pheloniusphish says:

    We have completely lost the thread of the original point of contention which was comparing current events to the Holocaust. I say we should compare everything to ensure we’re not repeating history.

    • Tim Knight says:

      You changed it from Holocaust to mask type conversations. Just saying. I wasn’t trying to be an asshole. 😉

  137. Tim Knight says:

    When we share a burger and a beer together saying hey good to see you, is better than I hate you because I disagree with everything you believe in. Really… everything?

    I’m tired of it folks.

  138. wyoming85 says:

    Oie Vieeee

  139. manitobafinfan says:

    M13. As to Players getting VAX.. if they are vaccinated they don’t need to submit to Daily testing , they don’t need to wear masks in meetings or on sidelines/field and a few other perks for lack of better wording.. if players are Not vexed, then they do daily and masks are required…

  140. manitobafinfan says:

    Is there not a waiver being signed prior to vax that waives rights to sue down the road ?? Thought I had heard there was .. also maybe a Canada only thing. I may also be mistaken…

  141. bailbondmike says:

    Someone who has had COVID recently probably has more antibodies than someone who just got their vaccine and therefore should not need to get vaccinated for some time. Do those people get a passport for having antibodies just like vaccinated people or are they just fucked cause they didn’t get the shot? I found out a few months ago that I had antibodies and have decided not to get it for quite awhile. Think I got it back in October and still had antibodies 5 months later. How long are these shots good for? How often are people going to have to get vaccinated? Are booster shots going to be needed? How effective is the current vaccine against the new mutations popping up? Will people keep having to get shots every year to keep up with the mutations like the flu vaccine? What do people do when they are on vacation and forget or lose their passport?

    Last question, What is China going to unleash on us next?

    • D says:

      Herein lied the argument I have for continuing the mask regulations, distancing and overall limiting of large population events. I mean I don’t wanna shit on getting back to normal I just think there are a lot of unanswered questions to start treating the vaccine as a silver bullet.

  142. bailbondmike says:

    D, your shipment is going to be delayed. I saw on the news that your 31 kilo’s of cocaine washed up on Gulf Shores Monday and some more on a Mississippi beach. Sorry to hear that man! lol

  143. D says:

    HIPAA doesn’t cover that kind of disclosure. It protects private information from being made public in a way that identifies you by a combination of medical records plus personal. So like a positive aids test, disclosure of the positive plus any information that might identify you as the one that was positive with out your approval would be a violation. Disclosing it to your mother after your approval was give (and a approval for disclosure is signed) is not a violation. Disclosing it to you power of attorney is not.

    Given the disclosure is voluntary, it’s not a violation. Maybe you could argue it’s discrimination, but it has nothing to do with HIPAA.

  144. D says:

    At done point ya got to put the onus of a groups mentality on the group. I don’t see Trump as inviting that, it was a hand full of fuck nuts who decided they were going to do this if shit didn’t go the way they wanted and their actions affected the rest of that dumass mob to do something most, even the ones involved never intended on.

    Roots in the cities while “protesting” was the same thing. Almost non if those idiots would have done that shit but when the ones that did and always intended to broke the flood gates, they all piled on.

    Did the mayor of Minneapolis incite this when he made the comments supporting the mob and their actions and criminalizing police (not just those involved) if you argue Trump did then you have to argue he did.

    Me personally I think both were dumb in what they said, but I don’t think either saw it culminating in that. That’s on the mob, in both cases.

    • steveccnv says:

      Really sad, where things have gone, that someone has to do a sort of fake sarcasm piece for people to be aware or not of what is going on

  145. steveccnv says:

    Can Waddle be our straw (that broke the camel’s back)?

    Last year against Buffalo the game was broken open after a second quarter punt return TD and a 3rd quarter pick six.

    Field position was also a battle we lost in the 1st half.

    Games we win the field position battle we tend to do well

  146. Ken says:

    Why is it any different for us to show proof of Covid vaccination? We had to show proof of numerous vaccines just so we can go to school as kids and we had to show them for our kids to go school. Why is everyone getting their panties in a bunch over this?

    • steveccnv says:

      For 1 those vaccines were fully tested.

      When Trump gets the presidency back this summer 😉 it’s going to be interesting how this conversation flips.

      If you look back to people like the faux VP Harris for example saying, prior to the election, she’s not getting vaccinated…

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Bc there is an entire propaganda machine pushing fake news, fake virus, fake presidency so they can beleive their own fantasies

      Small pox doesn’t know what it is missing. Unfortunately it’s basically not around anymore to experience it

      • steveccnv says:

        That fake news is called MSM, that you subscribe to.

        Where it came from was said to be a hoax, politico gave it a pants on fire rating back in Feb 2020, Facebook too, politico has since retracted it.

        The virus was created in a lab in Wuhan partially funded by the US (Faucci) and put out on the world by China.

        The virus itself isn’t fake what is, is how it came to be.

        How you can talk about a propaganda machine, when the media is control by the left, is beyond me

      • Ken says:

        If it’s a fake why did you get vaccinated?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I call it a propaganda machine you just puffed your chest out and said Trump would be president again by the end of the summer which is clearly a product of propaganda

        Being that confident in that kind of fiction isn’t just hearing many points of view, it’s surrounding yourself in delusions

        That’s just not going to happen Steve

        If it does you can post how right you were on Labor Day, until then I have no interest in arguing with you about it.

        I just post opposition to let other people know not everyone here believes this stuff

  147. steveccnv says:

    He’s on to my U75 theory

  148. stangerx says:

    steveccnv says:
    May 23, 2021 at 11:22 am

    “The virus was created in a lab in Wuhan partially funded by the US (Faucci) and put out on the world by China.

    The virus itself isn’t fake what is, is how it came to be.”
    So why is that a reason not to wear a mask and not get vaccinated…… and make other Americans and yourself more likely to get the Chinese virus?

    I’m sorry man, but I’m stepping up to defend my country from this dastardly viral attack. What any true American should do.

  149. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!

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