Miami Dolphins 2021 Schedule

The 2021 schedule is out, and I think our much improved team should have an exciting season. I think we covered 2 serious spots that needed an upgrade. WR was the position I felt we just had to improve and drafting Jaylen Waddle accomplished that. The familiarity that Waddle and Tua have is just one small part of the equation, We so desperately needed a talent upgrade, and I think the type of receiver Waddle is is the perfect complement to our current WR corps. DeVante Parker has the talent, and we’ve seen him take over games. We’ve also seen him fight through nagging injuries and not be able to give the team his usual production. In free agency we signed former Texans WR Will Fuller. Well, Fuller has yet to play a full 16 game schedule, and hey, now we play 17! In 5 seasons, he played 53 games and missed 27. Hopefully Waddle will be the steady performer week in and week out. His home run ability from anywhere on the field will help Tua, because he can take a short pass a long way and can also take the top off the defense with his deep speed. Add in Preston Williams, Lynn Bowden Jr., Allen Hurns, Albert Wilson, Mack Hollins, Jakeem Grant, Kirk Merritt and Robert Foster and we have legit depth. Unfortunately for Jakeem Grant, Jaylen Waddle may push Grant off the roster because Waddle is an excellent return man in his own right. Grant was electric, but his bobbles on both punt returns and kick returns were hard to watch.

On defense we brought in exactly what we needed. Some say Jaelan Phillips is the best pure pass rusher in this draft. The best part about Phillips is he already has an arsenal of pass rush moves, he’s not just an “Underwear Olympics” thriller. He is fast, quick and explosive as well and did perform well at his pro day, but his technical skills are what separate him from some of the others. The trade to bring Benardrick McKinney from the Texans solidified the middle of the defense. Both he and Jerome Baker can stop anything in front of them or chase to the sidelines just as easily. Andrew Van Ginkel and Jaelan Phillips will bring the rush from the outside, and our young talented D-line with one more year of experience under their belts, Christian Wilkins (LDE), Raekwon Davis (NT), and Emmanuel Ogbah (RE) should be even better this season.

Our secondary which was already formidable, got an early present in the form of S Jevon Holland. The Dolphins released S/DB Bobby McCain last week, so it’s clear the Dolphins felt they needed to upgrade. Holland will probably play some safety and slot corner, places where over the years McCain played both. Nik Needham filled in last season and held his own pretty well but the Dolphins are looking for better. With CB’s Xavien Howard and Byron Jones the Dolphins already have one of the premier CB tandems in the NFL. Holland will solidify the coverage both tight and deep. McCain often gave far too much of a cushion which led to easy shorter completions and also struggled covering deep as well. Holland should help there.

As far as the schedule is concerned, we open in NE to face a better Patriots team than last year’s version. Whether the QB is Cam Newton or Mac Jones, this team is getting a few players back that opted out due to C-19 last season. OT Marcus Cannon, LB Dont’a Hightower, S Patrick Chung and at least 5 others are back with the team. Then we face the Division Champs, the Buffalo Bills at home. The Bills went hard on defense in the draft bringing in 2 pass rush prospects, Gregory Rousseau and Carlos Basham Jr. Like the Dolphins, I expected them to draft a RB but the Bills passed altogether. Then we travel across the country to face the Vegas Raiders in a game they will undoubtedly be looking to avenge a tough loss last season, the Ryan Fitzpatrick game save with the unforgettable head twist pass to Mack Hollins. We follow that with a home game against a very tough opponent, the Indianapolis Colts. The Colts traded for QB Carson Wentz and drafted defense in their first 2 picks. They were a good team last season with Philip Rivers and have potential to be even better with a healthy Carson Wentz. We then stay in state to face the SB Champion Tampa Bay Bucs. The Bucs managed to keep everyone from last season plus added LB Joe Tryon in the draft. Tough game. Hopefully the lack of travel helps us here as we then have two road games in a row as we face off against the Jacksonville Jaguars in London. Road games but short travels in both. The Jaguars were awful last season but were rewarded with one of the best QB prospects in a decade or so, Trevor Lawrence. Lawrence will have to be extraordinary to help this team.

Our next home game is against the visiting Atlanta Falcons. Defense has been Atlanta’s weakness but their offense got a whole lot better after drafting TE Kyle Pitts. Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, and Hayden Hurst and now add Kyle Pitts. Tough to defend this team. Then comes the rematch with the Bills at Orchard Park, so no breaks for the defense with the Falcons and Bills back to back. We then play the Texans who may be without their QB DeShaun Watson, depending on how the NFL rules on his conduct. Then we face the Baltimore Ravens, a team we always struggle against. For some sobering perspective, the last 3 times we faced the Ravens we have been outscored 137-16 in 3 truly embarrassing losses. This is followed by a very late season first game with the NY Jets. The Jets will be led by new QB Zack Wilson and likely an improved O-line. We then travel to Carolina to face a former Jet in new Panthers QB Sam Darnold. Jets and former Jets.

For the last 1/3 of the season, the Dolphins host the NY Giants. The Giants made a big splash in FA landing WR Kenny Golladay and then doubled down in the draft with WR Kadarius Toney. QB Daniel Jones should be smiling. Week 14 will be our much needed BYE Week. We then face the Jets again. That’s 3 games against NY teams in 4 weeks. Then we travel to Nawlins to face the new look Saints. For the first time in 15 years, it will not be Drew Brees behind center. Taysom Hill be running the offense now. A difficult game follows that as we travel to Tennessee to battle the Titans and former Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill. We finish the season off with a home game against the New England Patriots.

Hard to say right now how we end up this season. If QB Tua Tagovailoa improves as I believe he will, I think our team can play with anyone. Sure, I wanted an upgrade at RB and still do, but with better QB play and what I believe will be a better defense than even last season, we should be able to scratch out 11-13 wins. It’s not inconceivable. Our offense will be better and that should also take some pressure off our defense. 2021 is a going to be a playoff season for us. How far we go, I can’t tell you but I do believe we will be making the playoffs for the first time since 2016, when we got stopped by the Pittsburgh Steelers with Matt Moore at the helm for our Dolphins with Ryan Tannehill out with 2 torn knee ligaments. Time to get back on that Playoff horse!


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  1. bailbondmike says:

    Marinofan13 says:
    May 21, 2021 at 3:32 pm
    Can’t argue with that logic, either… I hear you too, BBM. I think I (and others) may be a bit hung up on not getting a stud RB early in this Draft.
    Oh, I am still with you guys on that. If you saw my posting of my post 2021 early 2022 mock draft (LOL), I drafted an OC and 2 RB’s. lol

    • D says:

      Thing about RB’s is i don’t know that i have seen a draft where there wasnt at least a handful of really strong RB prospects. Its not a position you have to worry about getting a guy THAT year, because there will be plenty of other chances.

      Last year with Pitts was a once in a decade player imo, sorry PP, so the effort taken to get him, in a class that otherwise was pretty weak, and with an upcoming class that right now doesn’t look crazy good, may have been worth it to stay at 3 and take him there, we didn’t and we still got a top end playmaker, but there is probably a bigger argument for having stayed at 3 to ensure we got pits over not taking Harris in the first with pick 18.I was on team Najee since before the last college season was over, but i promise you there is a Najee in this next class, and a Etienne, and a Williams.

  2. stangerx says:

    We lost 56-26.
    The Bills didn’t have all that much to play for.
    Josh Allen sat at half.
    The score kept going up.
    Yeah the last game against the Bills bothers me. I know Tua threw 3 picks, but they kept passing on us at will. Open receivers would just catch the ball and flop down to avoid injury.

    Offensive problems accept. But does our D need to improve that much? Or did they have the answer to our scheme? Was a real important game for us and their 2’s took it to our 1’s.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It really felt like we hit a wall in that game as in we went as far as we could, and simply didn’t have enough to compete with one the best teams in the league that was on a mission. The Bills won their last 6 games in impressive fashion including two more wins in the playoffs before falling to the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game.

      • steveccnv says:


        We caught a hot team, with nothing to play for (easy to play loose), on the road, missing some top WRs and an emotionally fragile QB.

        Sometimes you just have to throwbthe tape away

      • stangerx says:

        Sorta sets a bench mark for us. Would be great to win the AFC East.

  3. sb7mvp says:

    30+ TD’s is a lot for a QB to get in one year, especially a QB going into their second season on a team with so many question marks on the offensive side of the ball.

    • D says:

      Yeah that was the number that jumped out at me and 8 ints is a really low number too, not that its not doable i just think as for an expectation its tough. My point about fan expectations was more along the lines of not having numbers you need for them to hit and just watch for progression, which stats don’t always show that. We will know by the end of next year if he progressed or not, and whether it was enough to be happy with.

  4. steveccnv says:

    Stop the presses, Phil Mickelson is in the clubhouse at -5 with the lead

  5. D says:

    OL is probably the most difficult place to adjust to NFL speed. CB is a tough one too. Its also two places where the lightbulb has to go off and its like ok this is why doing this is so important. Its part of why i put OL and some of the skills i place as a higher priority over some of the others skills or physical stats like size/arm length/etc. You don’t have good feet those first few years even likely your whole career is going to have a steep curve to it. One of the things i most liked about Hunt was the fact that he picked up the speed of the game and was to adjust his playing to compensate very quickly. He had what i thought was a pretty impressive year.

    • D says:

      A lot of the other position the way ya play is the same, you just have to beat better opponents, those other two position have to refine how they play on top of figuring out how to deal with better players.

  6. Tim Knight says:

    What if this is our starting 5 this year? Oh that’s right… a 6 foot QB can’t throw over such tall guys. LOL

    LT Jackson 6-5 325, 2nd
    LG Kindley 6-4 330, 2nd
    C Deiter 6-6 310, 3rd
    RG Hunt 6-6 325, 2nd
    RT Eichenberg 6-6 310, Rookie

    • D says:

      If they are blocking right then it doesn’t matter because they should be opening the front of that pocket up so he can escape if he needs to and also step up to make a throw with no person in his face. If they don’t open up the throwing lanes, then yeah we wont be able to see as well but good QB’s will shift to get the open viewpoint, if they are blocking well enough to give him one. 5 ft QB’s could play in the NFL if they were crafty enough and know how to create their lanes. I mean Murry is pretty much 5ft isn’t he?

      Funny think i find about the Tua being too short argument is how many QB’s out there that are the face of their franchise and were shorter than him and how many through history. You would be surprised how many QB’s aren’t as tall as you remember them in your mind. When i looked it up i was shocked (though maybe i shouldn’t be since I’m not old enough to really remember Frank Tarkenton, but Tua is very slightly taller than he was. Baker Mayfield, and Tua are pretty much the same height, so in Jalen Hurts who a lot here seem to love, and Drew Brees, and Russel Wilson who is shorter, and Murray, who is shorter, and there are a fuck tone of 6’2 guys including Rogers. I think way too much is made over height.

      Also, watching Alabama Football as part of the SEC division i follow….umm he threw behind some monster fucking duded on the OL on his way to championships. Its not like he has been throwing behind a big OL for the first time ever. I know you werent saying that Tim, im just over the whole “they cant” when they have already proven they can.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah man, I was joking. People act like OL are just static redwood trees and don’t move. It’s always about movement and passing lanes.

        Is being a tall QB somewhat of an advantage? Sure! But some of them still can’t see the forest for the trees. 😉

      • D says:

        Osweiler was 6’8, Drew Brees 6′. Depends on what ya do with that advantage.

  7. Marinofan13 says:

    Perhaps instead of using the word “expectations” in regard to Tua’s numbers this year, I should have used the word ‘attainable’. That is — if all goes to plan — there’s no reason why Tua can’t attain the numbers I gave him up the board… and possibly even exceed them in this pass-happy league.

    And should he fall short of my numbers, there will be rhyme and reason (the TAPE, injuries, etc). In other words, numbers don’t mean squat so long as he leads our team in the right direction. I don’t seek to set Tua up for failure with lofty number projections, I’m just sayin’ that don’t be surprised if he attains my numbers above.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I sometimes do this stat stuff with expectations then I stop, because I’m maybe cutting them short. Let’s watch it happen. Games are not always won with gaudy stats. Good situational football wins a lot of games. That’s what I think we’re building here. Lots of smart players.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Tim, we have no choice but to watch it happen, man! 😉

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Sufficed to say, I have a very good feeling about our Phins this year.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Of course! But what I see in a lot of our young players is; they’re smart, self motivated and not divas. Talent vs. smart = winning.

        You’ve recently beat yourself up over predictions. Don’t worry about that. None of us are psychics.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Meant to say talent plus smart = winning.

    • D says:

      Had Waddle on the same rating as Lawrence and Phillips was just below them. Both our players were rated higher than Zach Wilson.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I’d seen this earlier… interesting. However, it’s only one team’s ratings.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yep saw that earlier. Reportedly we had Waddle as the 2nd best prospect after Lawrence. One thing we know for sure is we drafted him before Sewell and Parsons.

      • D says:

        I think it’s just the idea that we were not overvaluing him. It’s good sometimes to see other teams having similar takes as ours because sometimes we are overly critical of those decisions.

  8. Marinofan13 says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 21, 2021 at 7:37 pm
    Of course! But what I see in a lot of our young players is; they’re smart, self motivated and not divas. Talent vs. smart = winning.

    You’ve recently beat yourself up over predictions. Don’t worry about that. None of us are psychics.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I think you and I are on the exact same page: smart, self-motivated, non-diva, and talent plus smart.

      The future looks good!

  9. steveccnv says:

    Marchand just got leveled by Oveckin, and his helmet fell off, he looks like Hitler😝

  10. son of a son of a shula says:

  11. Marinofan13 says:

    D says:
    May 21, 2021 at 9:08 pm
    I think it’s just the idea that we were not overvaluing him. It’s good sometimes to see other teams having similar takes as ours because sometimes we are overly critical of those decisions.
    Agreed, but I’d like to see what other teams had as THEIR eval on players. Not sure I’d take what the Jags eval as ‘gospel’, if you know what I’m saying.

    I’d like to know what the Chiefs, Patsies*, Ravens, Bucs, Rams, and 49ers had, for example. But it really doesn’t matter: we’re rolling with who we drafted, and methinks most are happy with our Draft class… as am I! 😀

  12. pheloniusphish says:

    This web site hates me.

  13. Randy says:

    I’ve said it a bunch of times already. The biggest key for a guy like Tua is actually having good guard play and not tackle play. Those inside guys have to be able to provide throwing lanes and keep guys out of a shorter QB’s face so he can make plays on time. Tua can scramble, but he’s best from inside the pocket. He’s not throwing over guys. He will be throwing between guys. Play action is also very important….so having a legitimate running game will be big.

  14. herdfan says:

    Can someone post hotels or general location to be, or to avoid please?

    • Ken says:

      A lot of people tend to stay at Margaritaville

      • The Flying Pig says:

        This is a map of Hollywood beach with Margarittsville as the center point.

        Magarativille was my best stay
        Next door to it I also stayed at Hotel Sheldon I think Bookman stayed there once too. It’s Right Next door and it’s a decent hotel IMO

        Some people have stated in Neptune before
        It’a north of margaritaville on the map and walking distance

        Between margratoville and Neptune is pretty much the area we all spend time with. There’s plenty of food, drink festivities on the boardwalk and a few hotels

        A few years ago, I remember seeing construction so there might be more choices this year

        I stayed one year at the Hollywood beach tower – and I don’t recommend it. It’s south of MARGARITVILLE but walking distance

        That’s the general area we all stay

        There’s a lot of hotels on that boardwalk. It’s worth staying at a place on that boardwalk IMO it just really depends what you want in a hotel

    • stangerx says:

      Hollywood Beach is where most folks stay, but you could do Miami or Fort Lauderdale as well…. but would probably need to rent a car (Miami is a ways). Hollywood is a better value, has a nice beach, and a neat bunch of places.

      Sat night we all get together at Dave & Busters in Hollywood, which ain’t far. Also about the closest beach to the stadium. If Toba is allowed out of Canada, he always sets up game day transportation.

  15. Krishna says:

    I like the Walkabout….chi chi little place with Tiki Bar outside on the premises on the boardwalk.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I’m a tiki bar fan myself

    • Krishna says:

      As Piggy said, there are lot’s of places to stay and depends on what you want. Easy walk to Margaritaville from Walkabout and tons of places to eat in between the two and beyond. Next door is the Hilton (I think or Marriott or one of the big hotels) with a nice breakfast.

      If anyone’s game, one of the days (I will probably rent a car) I will head to the Rustic Inn (as these are my old stomping grounds), that has great soft shell crab that Mrs. K loved. She said it was the best she had ever had. It’s an old building on one of the canals to the ocean. Was hoping one day Mr and Mrs Stanger and the Krishna’s would have dinner. It’s nothing fancy for sure with peanut shells all over the floor……lol.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        I recall one night during the fest , we all decided to meet up for dinner, googled some place to eat .. all went there expecting menu we had googled , burgers through to seafood.. got there and obviously wrong place.ballpark 70.00 bucks a head for dinner … but we did see Channing Crowder. Good times LOL

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Peanut shells sound more our speed 😊

      • stangerx says:

        That would have been a nice meal. And my better half liked yours a lot.

      • Krishna says:

        Be happy to point the way….

        Like I said nothing fancy and plenty fried….

      • Krishna says:

        Mrs K loved all the wives of you fucks. You should all consider yourselves lucky!

  16. stangerx says:

    “You know, we can look back at a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star, and they were definitely treated like second-class citizens so much so that they were put in trains and taken to gas chambers in Nazi Germany And this is exactly the type of abuse that Nancy Pelosi is talking about.”
    —- Rep Marjorie Taylor Greene on the House mask requirement…… GOP has its very own AOC

    • Tim Knight says:

      People need to stop comparing stuff to Nazi’s when it’s not even close to being that.

      • stangerx says:

        My first wife’s grandmother was on Schindler’s List. Heard some stories wish I hadn’t. It’s so incredibly disrespectful.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Absolutely! I know many stories like that from family, friends and colleagues. Making comparisons like that is incredibly disrespectful, ignorant and irresponsible.

      • stangerx says:

        Not surprisingly , the reason saw what she said was cause a bunch of Jewish organizations had a most distinct problem with her words as well.

  17. steveccnv says:

    Is the 24th of Oct the fest date? Planning on being in FL in Oct to look for retirement areas.

    I have places to stay all over FL, so won’t need a hotel, Miramar is my So. FL spot

    • Krishna says:


    • stangerx says:

      Set it up. There is no doubt there will be a Fest with the game on Oct 24, a get together on the 23rd and hopefully tunes with the dog on the 22nd (haven’t asked him yet). All in Hollywood , so close to Miramar.

  18. steveccnv says:

    Rangers just scored, some faggy lookin dude behind the goal seemed awful happy (Zach Wilson)

  19. olddolphan says:

    MANITOBA–CONGRATS TO YOUR JETS for totally locking down the favored high powered Oilers!! The Jets now lead that series 2-0.
    CHEAP SHOT TIME AT AMALIE ARENA IN TAMPS TODAY. DOWN 6-2 in the 3rd period, Joel Quennville, head coach of the Panthers, sens out a goon to clip the Bolts Nikita Kucherov from behind, slashing the back of his knee! Kucherov, who missed the ENTIRE regular season with hip surgery, went down in a heap!!

    In another playoff game, the Colorado Avalanche just had a star player SUSPENDED BY THE LEAGUE FOR 8 GAMES after a cheap shot to a Blues’ player, who was hospitalized and out for the rest of the playoffs!! IF “KOOCH” is out for the rest of the playoffs, the Bolts can forget about winning the Cup this season!!

    I’m hoping both the Panthers’ goon and coach “Q” receive massive fines and suspensions for this gutless act.
    PS: Scheduling the Fest in late October is way preferable to mid-September (which is the height of the hurricane season). I WILL BE THERE!

  20. manitobafinfan says:

    ThAnX OD. Quite surprised at the outcome based on crappy Jets played down the stretch .. and we’ve done it without Ehlers, who should be back for Sunday’s game

  21. pheloniusphish says:

    So….not allowed to compare anything to the Holocaust? No learning from history? Holocaust is the sloe property of the survivors and their descendants?

    Purges and dictatorships tend to start off with seemingly innocuous things that are ‘for ou own good.’ Better we follow the frog-in-boiling-water’s lead, I guess.

    • stangerx says:

      The woman was comparing in detail people getting gassed to her having to wear a mask on the floor of the House.

      I talk about watching my Mom die of cancer and someone replies by saying he understands cause of the cold he has….. yeah will find that at least a bit insensitive.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Then you missed the point. To use your example (my Mom died of cancer when I was 36), we should never talk about early screenings for cancer because we are healthy now and why bring it up if it is going to upset someone. Best way to ensure another Holocaust, or dying from cancer, is to ignore those things that led up to them.

      • stangerx says:

        Don’t think you will see above me saying to ignore such issues, but there are other ways to talk about them. Most be are able to do that. But her comment was hurtful.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Didn’t Trump get called Hitler and a racist in ridiculous ways? Just become something isn’t good does not mean it’s Nazism. We’re so extreme these days. Not buying the frog in boiling water analogy. There is so much information out there these days that many people on both sides of the political aisle pounce on it the moment it is said and done. Nothing is really that secret anymore except for the… “secret society.” 😉

  22. stangerx says:

    So the Jags did their own behind the draft video, but they neglected to blur up their board enough.

    Unsure what their ratings scale is but they gave Trevor Lawrence an 8.0. At another part of the vid you see Waddle also got an 8.0 and that Jaelan Phillips got a 7.5.

    Sure seems they liked our top 2 picks.

    Full —

    • Tim Knight says:

      There have been many reports that Waddle and Phillips were highly rated. Some pundits were saying pre-draft that Waddle should be in the conversation with Pitts and Chase. Phillips seemed to be labeled as probably the best prototype pass rusher. He checks off all the boxes as far as size, speed, strength and football skills. I loved that we added explosiveness on offense and edge pressure with our first two picks. Needed both and got two top rated prospects.

  23. pheloniusphish says:

    Stanger/Tim – Do you support forcible vaccination?

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Forced vaccination

      • stangerx says:

        No — but do support seat belt laws.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        So, you don’t have to have the shot. Do you support vaccine passport systems?

        Regarding seatbelt laws….who gets hurt by not wearing a seatbelt?

      • stangerx says:

        Wheeling around topics on this. I at least support people being able to prove they have been vaccinated.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        So if they can’t, or choose not to, prove they have been vaccinated what happens? Are they restricted from the freedoms that those who can or will prove it have?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Which rights do I lose? The right o gather? The right OT travel freely?

      • stangerx says:

        Phelon –I have no idea what happens if people can prove they are not vaccinated. Do know I would like to be able too. And seems since it is my medical history that I should be able too. And I am vaccinated. If you are not and you can’t go on a say cruise then either get the vax or don’t go on the cruise. Seems pretty simple and still your choice.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Jeez…either I’ve had too many drinks or autocorrect is out of control. To gather and to travel.

    • Tim Knight says:

      No! But it’s not like this country has not forced citizens to do stuff throughout history. Taking young men as teens out of their homes and destroying their dreams as a “free citizen” by sending them to foreign wars was the most totalitarian thing there is.

      Where was the choice in that?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        That is a straw man argument. Nothing to do with the current topic. Although I am happy to debate the merits of the draft from either side if you like.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Really? I’m talking about the government abusing its power to deny a citizen their “freedom” to not go to war, but that’s not valid here? How many young men died due to the draft? What other policy killed more than that?

        Forget about what the situation and politics were, the government forced their citizens to do it. Isn’t that what the topic was about?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        The to[ic is whether we can compare anything to the Holocaust. Not government overreach.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Stanger – You could also choose to not cruise if you are worried about your personal well being. If you’re vaccinated, you don’t have a worry. Theoretically. The un-vaccinated are willing to risk the virus, why should you care?

      • stangerx says:

        The cruise line can set up whatever rules it wants. Their boats…. seems their right. You want the government to step in?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Should the government step in whenever there is a case of discrimination?

      • pheloniusphish says:

        What if the cruise line says no Jews? After all, Judaism is a choice.

      • stangerx says:

        phelon — pretty clear you feel strongly about the rights of the unvaccinated. I see it as a health issue and my basic take is all they have to do is get vaccinated. So not like being black or Jewish. It’s a matter of choice.

        Same time I don’t really care that much. You asked about vaccine passports and said would like to prove have gotten the vaccine. Should I not be able to do that? Seems a strange world where I am not allowed.

  24. Marinofan13 says:

    Tim and I had touched on this a few days ago… how so many young QBs are prematurely discarded at the cost of winning NOW, in today’s NFL. This video pretty much sums up what we were discussing, and as it pertains to Tua…

  25. Marinofan13 says:

    I didn’t mean to interrupt the convo between y’all. Please, continue.

  26. Tim Knight says:

    Wow I just wrote a whole thing and it said sorry can’t post that. It’s gone.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I HATE it when that happens!!! I always save if I wrote something lengthy, before hitting send.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I normally do too but not this time. The gist of it was freedom. What does it mean to any of us? Do we really believe in it or is it just something we say?

  27. Marinofan13 says:

    One other thing I’d like to share… on my way home from work this evening, I was listening to Bucky Brooks on FSR. MUCH has been made of the 3 QBs (Russell Wilson, Deshaun Watson, and now Aaron Rodgers), trying to be their own GM/Coach… trying to emulate what Tom Lady* did in Tampa Bay last year.

    Bucky killed it: Brady was a FA, had honored his contract, while the other 3 QBs are acting like divas after signing for HUGE $$$ and are still under contract.

    Is the NFL is becoming like the NBA? It’s something others here have brought up, and I’m seeing it, too. Not a good look for the sport.

    • Tim Knight says:

      There are signs of that but football (NFL) really doesn’t work the same way as the NBA. Two big time players don’t win championships in the NFL. We’ve seen that for years.

  28. Randy says:

    We had a President who incited a riot against our own government and most Republicans and his supporters want us all to forget it happened and move on to a more loving, accepting and cooperative future….to work together. Our current President has flipped and flopped on a number of things over the years….and acted like what he said before never happened. I would say selective amnesia is something many of us suffer from. It just depends on which side you’re on. This divide is nothing new. What is new is how these things have become weaponized….and we’ve done it to ourselves.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m no fan of Trump, but he didn’t incite a riot. You chose to believe that. That said, his cult following did. We love to blame one person when it’s many of us as citizens that do stupid shit. It’s easier to fire one person than the entire group.

      Both parties are engaged in really bad stuff but politics puts blinders on lemmings to defend they’re preferred ideology. It’s so fuckin obvious!!!

      Everyone thinks they have the answer. No you don’t. We’re all bias. Some us still believe in freedom though. 😉

  29. son of a son of a shula says:

    Seattle and Green Bay should trade straight up.
    Deshaun, despite rumblings Eagles want him, will end up in Denver I believe.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Good take!

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Many believe A-Rod will end up in Denver, but I could see what you’re talking about happening, too.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m not in the know of all the accusations but the amount of it should push Deshaun out of the NFL. How the fuck can we be in this overly sensitive society and allow him to resume his career like nothing ever happened?

      As a GM I wouldn’t touch him.

  30. CavalierKong says:

    I am wholeheartedly against forced vaccinations and vaccination passports, but I believe businesses should be able to make their own rules in that regard.

    The government stepping in and stopping businesses from setting there own rules regarding vaccinations (i.e. calling it discrimination if they say no vax, no business) would be making anti-vaxers a protected class. Do we really think anti-vaxers should be a protected class?

    • CavalierKong says:


    • CavalierKong says:

      For clarity- my use of the term ‘anti-vaxer’ in this context, I’m talking the COVID vax, not true anti-vaxers.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      I don’t necessarily disagree, but I would say that medical status is already a de facto protected class (HIPPA).

      • CavalierKong says:

        That’s a solid point, but vaccinations are already required for things like public school enrollment. If we can do that on a public level, business should be able to do the same in limited scope.

  31. Marinofan13 says:

    You guys talking about forced vax vs freedom… all good!

    I wonder if the NFL is going to force all their players to get vaxed? Haven’t heard anything, one way or the other. Most obviously, there will be those who object, either way. Something to keep an eye on…

    • Marinofan13 says:

      ‘Precedence’ is half the game, so I look forward to seeing how the NFL vs NFLPA plays out on this topic.

  32. Randy says:

    I know what I saw and heard…before, during and after. You’re free to believe whatever you want. There were dozens of examples I could’ve used for Trump. That wasn’t the point.

  33. CavalierKong says:

    I don’t want to do a big ol Trump thing, but I think legally, Trump didn’t incite a riot. He mentioned being peaceful because he’s smart enough to protect himself. I think the impeachment over it was a farce.

    But realistically, what he did was whip the crowd into a frenzy and send them over to the Capitol building frothing at the mouth and with blood in their eyes. That doesn’t absolve any of the idiots that took part. They are responsible for their own actions.

    But to say Trump bears no responsibility for what followed is wrong IMO. It’s the same shyte as certain democrats whipping up crowds last summer or that jackass Waters talking about protesting more confrontationally towards police (or whatever the hell she said). Our public leaders can’t say these things, then claim no responsibility. Or if they can, then it has to work both ways.

  34. Marinofan13 says:

    pheloniusphish says:
    May 22, 2021 at 8:42 pm
    I don’t necessarily disagree, but I would say that medical status is already a de facto protected class (HIPPA).
    MUCH talk about this (HIPPA) where I’m at, Phelon. Hearing that it may have to reach state courts, if not ultimately the Supreme Court. And of course, that could take a very long time (SMH).

    Your points are well taken, and some are already fighting the good fight up here in PA, man.

  35. stangerx says:

    How does HIPPA come into play? The law protects from the unauthorized release of medical info. Point one in it is that any individual can release their own medical info. Unless they have changed since I was dealing with it, has nothing to do with a person proving this or that status to get say a job. That falls under the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) , even if doubt covers vaccination status.

    But then any law can be stretched.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      But what you are suggesting is that if you don’t disclose you will be punished.

      • stangerx says:

        Or at least not be eligible for something. Vax or not, disclose or not would be the choice of the person. Just giving my impression of the law.

  36. Tim Knight says:

    Can I ask all of you are you simply drawn to a persona that makes you do things you wouldn’t normally do? When does it become about a cult mentality? The conservatives and the left both do it. Are you a free thinking individual or a lemming? We’re a nation of about 330 million people and we let a few thousand speak for us. Seriously? Think about that for more than a minute.

    The greatest melting pot on earth is under siege and we just act like it’s not a real thing. Good luck!

    We will all die. Oh right it’s about the children. Some of them will become assholes too. Stop the madness!

  37. Marinofan13 says:

    5-10 years from now…

    “If you were one of the millions who took the COVID-19 vaccine in late 2020- early 2021, and have experienced any of the following…

    – 3rd nostril growing
    – turning on the microwave makes you piss your pants and you forget who you are for half an hour
    – you honestly believe that Geraldo Rivera is a time-traveler
    – you mistake your toilet brush as your tooth brush
    – you have extra digits on your hands, and you try slamming them off by wedging them between your oven and the oven door

    You have the legal right to claim what was wrongfully done to you. Call us at 1-800-UFU-CKED”

  38. Marinofan13 says:

    Seriously and scientifically speaking, this COVID-19 vaccine has not been tested accurately, long enough, nor do we know the long-term affects of it. So why is the government actually incentivising folks to get the vaccine?

    It recently came out from the CDC that up to nearly 40% of their own won’t take the vaccine. Hmmm…

    • stangerx says:

      I don’t believe for a second that 40% of CDC employees won’t get vaccinated. I especially don’t believe that if true they would put that out to the public. Where do you get that?

      • Marinofan13 says:

        It was all over the place this past week, Stanger. It’s getting late for me this evening, otherwise I’d dig it up for you and post it here, man. I’m NOT joking around, either.

        This country is so sadly split what with it’s news… BY DESIGN.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        OH! It came out of Fauci’s mouth this past week.

      • stangerx says:


        Contrary to claims by social media users, two top U.S. officials involved in the COVID-19 vaccination rollout in the country did not say that 40% to 50% of CDC and FDA employees are refusing to get immunized.

        The social media posts, referring to Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and Peter Marks, director of the Food and Drug Administration’s Center for Biologics Evaluation, misinterpret comments made by the officials about vaccination levels in their organizations.

  39. Marinofan13 says:

    And lastly, the CDC has just revealed that COVID-19 has a 98-99% recovery rate. That’s not a pandemic, folks… you’ve been fooled/lied to. So why this BIG PUSH to get the shot, I ask? What’s in it for them, and what do I lose in exchange?

    • CavalierKong says:

      Honestly, I think things like forced vax, vax passports, mask mandates, etc are good and necessary conversations to have, but this other stuff, like the whole COVID thing is a hoax, I don’t buy into at all.

      I’m not telling what to talk about, or implying you shouldn’t say your piece, you do you, bro. I’m just letting you know why I personally don’t respond to these particular things when you bring them up.

  40. pheloniusphish says:

    We have completely lost the thread of the original point of contention which was comparing current events to the Holocaust. I say we should compare everything to ensure we’re not repeating history.

    • Tim Knight says:

      You changed it from Holocaust to mask type conversations. Just saying. I wasn’t trying to be an asshole. 😉

  41. Tim Knight says:

    When we share a burger and a beer together saying hey good to see you, is better than I hate you because I disagree with everything you believe in. Really… everything?

    I’m tired of it folks.

  42. wyoming85 says:

    Oie Vieeee

  43. manitobafinfan says:

    M13. As to Players getting VAX.. if they are vaccinated they don’t need to submit to Daily testing , they don’t need to wear masks in meetings or on sidelines/field and a few other perks for lack of better wording.. if players are Not vexed, then they do daily and masks are required…

  44. manitobafinfan says:

    Is there not a waiver being signed prior to vax that waives rights to sue down the road ?? Thought I had heard there was .. also maybe a Canada only thing. I may also be mistaken…

  45. bailbondmike says:

    Someone who has had COVID recently probably has more antibodies than someone who just got their vaccine and therefore should not need to get vaccinated for some time. Do those people get a passport for having antibodies just like vaccinated people or are they just fucked cause they didn’t get the shot? I found out a few months ago that I had antibodies and have decided not to get it for quite awhile. Think I got it back in October and still had antibodies 5 months later. How long are these shots good for? How often are people going to have to get vaccinated? Are booster shots going to be needed? How effective is the current vaccine against the new mutations popping up? Will people keep having to get shots every year to keep up with the mutations like the flu vaccine? What do people do when they are on vacation and forget or lose their passport?

    Last question, What is China going to unleash on us next?

    • D says:

      Herein lied the argument I have for continuing the mask regulations, distancing and overall limiting of large population events. I mean I don’t wanna shit on getting back to normal I just think there are a lot of unanswered questions to start treating the vaccine as a silver bullet.

  46. bailbondmike says:

    D, your shipment is going to be delayed. I saw on the news that your 31 kilo’s of cocaine washed up on Gulf Shores Monday and some more on a Mississippi beach. Sorry to hear that man! lol

  47. D says:

    HIPAA doesn’t cover that kind of disclosure. It protects private information from being made public in a way that identifies you by a combination of medical records plus personal. So like a positive aids test, disclosure of the positive plus any information that might identify you as the one that was positive with out your approval would be a violation. Disclosing it to your mother after your approval was give (and a approval for disclosure is signed) is not a violation. Disclosing it to you power of attorney is not.

    Given the disclosure is voluntary, it’s not a violation. Maybe you could argue it’s discrimination, but it has nothing to do with HIPAA.

  48. D says:

    At done point ya got to put the onus of a groups mentality on the group. I don’t see Trump as inviting that, it was a hand full of fuck nuts who decided they were going to do this if shit didn’t go the way they wanted and their actions affected the rest of that dumass mob to do something most, even the ones involved never intended on.

    Roots in the cities while “protesting” was the same thing. Almost non if those idiots would have done that shit but when the ones that did and always intended to broke the flood gates, they all piled on.

    Did the mayor of Minneapolis incite this when he made the comments supporting the mob and their actions and criminalizing police (not just those involved) if you argue Trump did then you have to argue he did.

    Me personally I think both were dumb in what they said, but I don’t think either saw it culminating in that. That’s on the mob, in both cases.

    • steveccnv says:

      Really sad, where things have gone, that someone has to do a sort of fake sarcasm piece for people to be aware or not of what is going on

  49. steveccnv says:

    Can Waddle be our straw (that broke the camel’s back)?

    Last year against Buffalo the game was broken open after a second quarter punt return TD and a 3rd quarter pick six.

    Field position was also a battle we lost in the 1st half.

    Games we win the field position battle we tend to do well

  50. Ken says:

    Why is it any different for us to show proof of Covid vaccination? We had to show proof of numerous vaccines just so we can go to school as kids and we had to show them for our kids to go school. Why is everyone getting their panties in a bunch over this?

    • steveccnv says:

      For 1 those vaccines were fully tested.

      When Trump gets the presidency back this summer 😉 it’s going to be interesting how this conversation flips.

      If you look back to people like the faux VP Harris for example saying, prior to the election, she’s not getting vaccinated…

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Bc there is an entire propaganda machine pushing fake news, fake virus, fake presidency so they can beleive their own fantasies

      Small pox doesn’t know what it is missing. Unfortunately it’s basically not around anymore to experience it

      • steveccnv says:

        That fake news is called MSM, that you subscribe to.

        Where it came from was said to be a hoax, politico gave it a pants on fire rating back in Feb 2020, Facebook too, politico has since retracted it.

        The virus was created in a lab in Wuhan partially funded by the US (Faucci) and put out on the world by China.

        The virus itself isn’t fake what is, is how it came to be.

        How you can talk about a propaganda machine, when the media is control by the left, is beyond me

      • Ken says:

        If it’s a fake why did you get vaccinated?

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I call it a propaganda machine you just puffed your chest out and said Trump would be president again by the end of the summer which is clearly a product of propaganda

        Being that confident in that kind of fiction isn’t just hearing many points of view, it’s surrounding yourself in delusions

        That’s just not going to happen Steve

        If it does you can post how right you were on Labor Day, until then I have no interest in arguing with you about it.

        I just post opposition to let other people know not everyone here believes this stuff

  51. steveccnv says:

    He’s on to my U75 theory

  52. stangerx says:

    steveccnv says:
    May 23, 2021 at 11:22 am

    “The virus was created in a lab in Wuhan partially funded by the US (Faucci) and put out on the world by China.

    The virus itself isn’t fake what is, is how it came to be.”
    So why is that a reason not to wear a mask and not get vaccinated…… and make other Americans and yourself more likely to get the Chinese virus?

    I’m sorry man, but I’m stepping up to defend my country from this dastardly viral attack. What any true American should do.

  53. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!

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