What will the 2021 Miami Dolphins Offense Look Like?

#1, Tua Tagovailoa is the linchpin to our season. There are so many other variables to our team’s success but if our 2nd year QB doesn’t improve significantly from last season, it will be hard for the rest of the team to get further than our 10 win season and for us to get a playoff berth. The 6 guys pictured above, WR DeVante Parker, TE Mike Gesicki, WR Jaylen Waddle, WR Will Fuller, TE Hunter Long and RB Myles Gaskin will also play a huge role in the offense going forward. TE Mike Gesicki is in his final year of his contract so he will be looking to have a big season. Our #6 draft pick this year WR Jaylen Waddle will be an immediate impact player both on offense and special teams as a top notch return man. Our #81 draft pick was TE Hunter Long from Boston College. A bit of surprise this one because I felt we had pretty good depth at TE with Gesicki, Smythe, Shaheen, Myarick and Carter but we probably intend on using multiple TE sets often. Those TE sets put the defense in a tough spot because it can be a power running formation as well as a receiving mismatch with a bunch of 6’6 250 guys that can run that need to be covered. Pair that with a burner like Fuller or Waddle who can take one to the house and big plays can happen.

Let’s get back to Tua. This guy is hungry to be a top player, to be the best he can be. He has been doing extensive weight training, it’s already paid dividends and Tua looks much thicker on his lower half, a huge boon for a QB. He looks bigger on top as well and his arms are certainly stronger as well. Besides the weight training he’s been working diligently on balancing exercises and drills. Better balance helps make a repeatable throwing motion easier and helps distribute the arm strength better. You can question his skill all you want, but you can’t question his heart, desire and sense of responsibility one drop. Once again, Tua’s success will be paramount to the teams success. In addition to Tua doing all he can to better this season, The Dolphins kept up their end of the deal by drafting OT Liam Eichenberg. I can’t tell you for sure that he will be our RT day one but if I were to be a betting man, I’d lay down some cash on that being the case. I do believe our offensive line will be LT Austin Jackson, LG Solomon Kindley, C Matt Skura, RG Robert Hunt and then RT Liam Eichenberg. Those two mountains in the middle, Kindley 6’3 337 and Robert Hunt 6’5 325 have some work to do as far as pass protection, but in my eyes, last year’s O-line was better than I’ve seen in some time. I expect that to improve with a true offseason, training camp and OTA’s.

I’m not going to continue to discuss the need for a RB. I’m in wait and see mode and I see no reason to continue to dwell on an issue that may not be an issue. Other teams do well with undrafted and late round draft picks at the RB position, and we already hit with 2019 7th RD pick Myles Gaskin. If this year’s 7th RD pick Gerrid Doaks shares the same success Gaskin had last season we’ll be just fine at RB. The RB by committe approach ensures fresher legs and also eliminates the worry of relying too much on one player and then trying to change the offense once that player goes down. I think at least 3-4 of these guys will get a fair amount of carries and some weeks one will be the feature back and the next week we’ll change it up to a different rotation. That makes it harder for opposing defenses to game plan against us.

On paper, we have so much more talent at the skill positions at WR and TE it’s actually crazy. Health can and will be a factor as we have a few that unfortunately haven’t been able to stay whole for an entire season. Still, with DeVante Parker, Will Fuller and Jaylen Waddle and then Mike Gesicki and Hunter Long at TE, that’s a lot of talent to cover. Parker always difficult on 50/50 balls thrown his way, Fuller can easily take the top off the defense and make big plays deep downfield. Waddle can do it all, turn short passes into big gains and if teams start coming up on him aggressively, he will make them pay with double moves that leave them in the dust. If teams are forced to double cover Waddle, Fuller or Parker, Gesicki will be a pain one on one against most defensive players. Add in another pass catching TE like Hunter Long and it almost seems unfair. Truth is though, it all starts in the trenches and our O-line will not only need to open holes for Gaskin and company but protect Tua Tagovailoa too. We know Tua was conservative last season, much to the detriment of the offense. He took the easy quick completions often instead of waiting or sometimes even recognizing and seeing players getting open just a few yards further downfield. If the O-line is stout, that will give Tua more confidence to let things develop. Or, the new dual OC’s of Eric Studesville and George Godsey will have to be more creative and move Tua around, who by the way, throws pretty well while on the move.

I look forward to seeing this offense get to work, it’s going to be fun. I’m already quite excited at what we can do and I can’t wait to see them hit the field. On the other hand, if I said it was the offense I look forward to seeing most I’d be lying. I really do want to see the Tua offense in year two, but it’s our defense with Jaelan Phillips, Benardrick McKinney and our most excellent secondary that I wish to see most. I think our defense can be special, one of the top defensive units in the NFL. Josh Allen won’t be so damn cocky and smirky when we play him next. If we want to to get to the top of the division, we have to beat the Bills. They shellacked us, ran over and through us when it counted for us, and we need to be the ones doing the bullying next time around. I think the defense will be a big part of the reason, although much like Buffalo found out, give a QB a great weapon like Stefon Diggs and the offense will be better. Well, we gave Tua the upgrades on offense and now along with our top defense, the QB has to improve with the defense.


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1,103 Responses to What will the 2021 Miami Dolphins Offense Look Like?

  1. CavalierKong says:

    I might have to watch some Angels games when this Ohtani character is pitching. I was kind of late to the party on him, but these numbers are crazy.

    15 HRs as a batter, and 7 games as a starting pitcher with an ERA of 2.72. WTF? Is this the 1920s?

  2. pheloniusphish says:

    Fucking page turn. From the last page.

    Kong is correct. If a cabal in the military decided to overthrow the government it would be a prelude to civil war. The government would have to do something extreme like say they were suspending the Constitution and all civil rights to get the military to act in a unified manner.

    The extreme, right or left, live in a fantasy world. Trump is not coming back and America isn’t going to become a socialist state overnight.

    None of that is to say that we’re not heading for another war. We are. The tribalism being pushed – BLM, LGBT, BIPOC – will be what gets it started. As a country, we have lost our way. We’ve allowed teachers to raise our children and they are teaching social justice instead of history. You can’t correct history, only not repeat it. America was built on inclusion, at least in aspiration if not always in practice.

    Oh…one more thing – the Democratic Party is the party of supporting crime and criminals. Just going to leave that there.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Forgot – Anybody who voted for Biden voted to allow crime.

    • stangerx says:

      The extreme left and right bug me a lot. Yet they get a lot of face time these days. Guess the middle just ain’t exciting.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Dang, if I’d just got my above baseball post in just a bit sooner, the beginning of the new page would have started with “Kong is correct”.

      Ahh well, story of my life…almost, nearly, and so close. 🤣🤣

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Apes are always a day late and a dollar short.

      • CavalierKong says:

        Alas, even getting the blonde is just a dream. One minute, you have her in the palm of your hand, the next…nothing but air.

  3. Marinofan13 says:

    wyoming85 says:
    May 29, 2021 at 4:21 pm
    I’ll split mine with you Tim!
    It’s 85 and humid as shit!
    Killed a “Fatty” water moccasin this morning in the back yard!
    What did you do to kill it, Wyoming?

    I only need to be concerned about rattlers and coppers here in PA. Those cottonmouths are a whole lot more venomous than these in PA.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I piss around with rattlers and coppers over here, but I’m not sure I’d piss around with a water moccasin.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      They’re no more venomous, just more aggressive.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Perhaps I’d been misinformed on their venom. I did know that water moccasins are most aggressive, and NOT to be pissed with. I trust you, sir.

        Thanks, Phelon.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Yeah, I grew up catching snakes. Wanted to be a herpetologist when I was young. Then I wanted to be a marine biologist, because Jacque Cousteau was the coolest. Ended up just becoming a Marine who ate a few snakes and broke a lot of shit.

  4. Tim Knight says:

    I have a hard time thinking people in our military would overtake their own citizens aka families and friends. They have loved ones too.

    • stangerx says:

      Two different Qs.
      Could the military do it?
      Would the military do it?
      All comes down to the circumstances.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Could the military do it? As far as the power to do it, yes.

        Would the military do it? As far as all of them or a majority of them being on board, no.

      • stangerx says:

        I agree, but then this all started with a vid that said was gonna happen this year. But did create an interesting convo.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      It goes the other way, too. People in our military would overtake their own government to protect their own citizens, aka families and friends.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        The oath is to the Constitution, not to a rogue rat bastard who may be in power, who is trying to shred the Constitution.

      • Tim Knight says:

        The military doing that would be shredding the constitution.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        As Stanger said, depends on the circumstances. m is correct I that the oath sworn is to the Constitution..

  5. Marinofan13 says:


    We’ve also got these water snakes here in PA… right in my backyard. Very aggressive, though non-venomous. Those bastards stand their ground something fierce, and are relatively long. Nasty!

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Water snakes meaning fresh-water creek snakes.

    • Tim Knight says:

      There’s a reservoir in north western NJ called Monksville. It has lots of game fish being that there are some natural feeds from natural waters. Native Muskie, Tiger Muskie (sterile hybrids) Pike, LM and SM Bass, Stripers (sterile hybrids) and a few species of Trout.

      I fished there a few times and there are snakes everywhere. I was fishing on the shore and I had to keep my eyes open constantly to the point where I said I’m done unless I’m in a boat. Never saw anything like it.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        That sucks! I can understand why you’d only fish in a boat, then. I hear ya!

  6. Marinofan13 says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 29, 2021 at 5:23 pm
    The military doing that would be shredding the constitution.
    And that’s where the lawyers come in, SMH.

    There is a duty to protect this country from both foreign and DOMESTIC threats. So when one looks at it as such, it’s NOT shredding the Constitution.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      One thing is for sure… this country is on a slippery slope.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I’m not talking about the lawyers on this blog… wanted to clarify as much. I’m talking about the high-powered lawyers who make MEGA-$$$.

    • stangerx says:

      What is the domestic threat right now?
      And mean in the need to overthrow the government kinda way.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Lawyers of all stripes. Bain of civilization.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        The domestic threat right now is the current regime being in bed with China. It’s not too difficult to figure that out. What’s more, we can’t afford what Biden has already done… and now he’s proposing a $6T spending bill?

        America will never recover from as much, and those with brains realize as much.

      • stangerx says:

        LOL Phelon….. gonna be worried about who knocks on my door now.

      • stangerx says:

        M13 — is that big enough a threat to justify a coup?

    • Tim Knight says:

      But you also can’t violate the will of the people. Without that we’re done.

      We may not like our political landscape these days but there are lots of branches to our government before a presidential administration or rogue leader can bypass the constitution.

      I mean geez, for 4 years we heard how Trump was doing that and he’s gone.

  7. Marinofan13 says:

    pheloniusphish says:
    May 29, 2021 at 5:34 pm
    Lawyers of all stripes. Bain of civilization.
    For the most part, I agree… but there is a need of lawyers in some cases… especially when the law runs foul on you.

  8. pheloniusphish says:

    Seriously – domestic threats:

    TSA creating and enforcing, through civil penalties, a mask mandate. TSA has no authority to create laws and penalties under ATSA which is the law that governs TSA. Any regulatory rules that are created have to go through the rule making process.

    CDC creating laws period. CDC is an advisory agency, no more.

    Government enforcement of racially biased laws.

    Government non-enforcement of civil laws.

    Government non-enforcement of border controls.

    Governing by Presidential fiat, executive orders. Executive orders are not law, only direction to government agencies. They cannot be legally enforced on citizens.

    • Marinofan13 says:


    • stangerx says:

      “Executive orders are not law, only direction to government agencies. They cannot be legally enforced on citizens.” — disagree on that, says a man that tried to finagle more than a few regulations put out by the Federal agencies. And those are a step below EOs.

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Regulations written by agencies are different than EO. EO are constitutionally limited. Want to debate the Delegation Doctrine?

      • stangerx says:

        Don’t want t o debate at all, but please teach me. Have experience with regulations (at some points kicked the heck out of some of the funding streams we’d set up) but never dealt with an EO. My impression from the news was had the force of law , but could be taken back just as easily with another EO.

  9. Marinofan13 says:

    stangerx says:
    May 29, 2021 at 5:41 pm
    M13 — is that big enough a threat to justify a coup?
    I think in the context of what started this dialogue — Steve posting what he had earlier — that these certain counties in certain states being audited… it would not be a coup. It would demonstrate that a ‘soft coup’ by the democrats had occurred via election fraud.

    In such a case, there would be no “coup” if justice is served, after the fact (soft coup).

    Let the process play out, and we’ll see what happens.

    • stangerx says:

      Coup means overthrowing the government by force of arms.

      The election is done, certified and the results in firm place. They want to audit some counties then they do. Won’t change a thing. You do know Biden got 7 million more votes?

      Elections in 2022 (GOP probably wins the House) and 2024.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Bro, you’re missing the point Steve was trying to make with the video he posted. WHAT IF these audits show that Donald Trump was — in fact — re-elected as the president?

        Have you any idea what that would mean? It would mean that the so-called “coup” you speak of had already occurred, only in a soft version by fraud.

      • stangerx says:

        As far as I know of the the only audit is in Arizona’s Maricopa County. They had 3 recounts before and a group of Trump state Senators hired a firm run by a guy who had had said the election was stolen to run it.

        If that audit says Trump won the county and the hand recounts done by the Republican election officials in the county were wrong….what am I supposed to think?

  10. Marinofan13 says:


    To put it another way… there is no way Biden got more votes than 0bama. There’s something fishy going on, and everybody knows it.

    • stangerx says:

      “there is no way Biden got more votes than 0bama” — yet a whole lot more votes were cast. Do you think that proof of anything? Don’t like the results…. that’s fine.

    • stangerx says:

      Why trust the audits rather than the actual election officials?

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Y’all didn’t trust the actual election results in 2016, calling it a fraudulent election, that Russia elected Trump. The farce went on for FOUR YEARS, and audits were commissioned.

        C’mon, my Brother… you can’t have it both ways, and you KNOW IT.

      • stangerx says:

        I completely trusted in the 2016 results. Why so you say I did not. Can only tell you what I did and do think.

  11. Tim Knight says:

    M13, snakes were popping up their heads out of the water off the boat basin, they were swimming in the water and they were on land. I never saw anything like that. But I’m sure those big game fish like it because they feed on them.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Such is the circle of life, I suppose! Not sure I’d like being surrounded by so many snakes, though… with their heads popping up out of the water like that.

      Hey, we’ve got these river eels that are bloody disgusting! Huge and nasty. Many of my fisherman friends have hooked one, thinking it was a big fish. Reeled it in, only to find a nasty eel on the hook. Oy!

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yeah, when I said they were popping their heads out of the water, think of it like tulips going up and down, like two dozen of them at different times. I was like WTF is going on. Then I’d see them swimming from one side to the other towards the shore I was at which was maybe a hundred feet or so because it was the short part of the reservoir before you would enter the big open water via boat. As I walked the shore a bit I saw one coiled on land at the edge of the shore and I said that’s it, I don’t know the terrain well enough or the species because some were bigger than others and didn’t look the same. It was the most snake activity I have ever seen. However I also thought, hey they’re thriving here for a reason. Lots of food sources so it was a healthy habitat.

  12. Tim Knight says:

    I personally do not think Trump was re-elected and it has nothing to do with party affiliation or anything like that. He turned people off who voted for him previously.

    Like I’ve said many times before, politics has become like sports. Some fans don’t like the outcome and look for bad calls, or the coach or manager should have done this or that. They can’t handle the result because they so wanted their team to win.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Can’t disagree with you on the point that politics have become a sport in America… that’s just SAD. We have kids who are indoctrinated to become politically active in middle school, and they’re missing out on life… like real sports.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        THAT is a sign of some BS that’s been going on in this country… so as to take our children away from the good times and sports… in order to indoctrinate them with political garbage (and it only goes one way).

        Let kids be kids!

    • Tim Knight says:

      I agree with that. Kids are politically indoctrinated by their parents and teachers just like the parents who live vicariously through their kids in sports. There is a place for competition and a place for kids to have fun. We’ve interwoven them at very young ages and it’s bullshit and very sad. It all comes down to that mantra that I’m right and you’re wrong, we should have won if it wasn’t for this or that. People can’t stand losing.

      On that note.

  13. Marinofan13 says:


    What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

    • stangerx says:

      Tell this Republican whether he is a goose or gander.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I wish you’d stop treating politics as a sport; it’s NOT. There are rules, and everybody should be held to account. Audits were fair by you in ’16, now audits are fair now.

      Don’t be that guy who makes up the rules as the game goes along… that’s kindergarten $#!t… and this is NOT a bloody game.

      • stangerx says:

        I think Trump won the 2016 election, accepted that day of. Really don’t get where you are coming from. And don’t remember any 2016 election audits. You are confusing me more than a bit.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        I may be confusing audits with recounts, but the dems certainly asked for a new result post ’16. It happens EVERY DAMN TIME a rep wins… but you should know this.

      • stangerx says:

        See — that’s the thing. Don’t remember H Clinton doing any such thing. But have been wrong before.

    • CavalierKong says:

      A wild rice pilaf paired with a liquored up cranberry sauce and pan sauce gravy would be my suggestion.

  14. Marinofan13 says:


    I’d rather get back to football, rather than talk politics with ya, Bro. I respect you as a man, but I don’t dig your political takes… and I’m sure you don’t dig my political takes. It’s all good, though!

    • stangerx says:

      Yeah — if it is about whether Trump won the last election clearly we are better talking football.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Doesn’t mean we aren’t cool with one another, either. I respect ya, Stanger. We merely view politics through a different prism, that’s all.

      • stangerx says:

        All is cool. And I probably shouldn’t have said so much. Might get me in trouble after the military takeover. 🙂

  15. Tim Knight says:

    I also think Trump won the election in 2016. I never bought the Russian interference thing. What happened this time around? Oh right, he lost so everything from his opponents was true and right this time around. But Trump supporters had to find their corruption angle this time around. Sound familiar, do we not see a trend here? People can’t stand losing. 😉

  16. pheloniusphish says:

    Stanger – I was part of writing a lot of regulations in the beginning of TSA and was the deputy head of TSA regulatory compliance at one point. Very familiar with the rule making process and lobbyists. EO do not have the force of law. They typically direct agencies to write rules or how to enforce those on the books. Only Congress can write law.

    • stangerx says:

      Thanks Pelon…. you taught me something. Thought EOs were a much bigger deal. How did Trump redirect DOD money to building his wall via EO? Is it more a financial stream thing?

  17. bailbondmike says:

    M13, we had those pesky water snakes in Indiana. They would scare the funk out of me all the time. I fished the river across from my house almost every day. One of those snakes got me grounded from fishing for a month. I was fishing from the bank and I always reel it all the way to the shoreline cause that is where the northern pike lay in waiting most of the time. Once, one of those snakes tried to get my spinner bait and followed it on shore. It was about 2-2.5 feet long. I pulled my closest foot away and it struck at my other sneaker. I jumped back and started smacking the shit out of it with my fishing pole. My little sister was with me and was screaming bloody murder. Somehow my spinner bait snagged it in the side and I couldn’t shake it off. I ran up on the road with it and smacked it on the pavement then slung it back to slam it down again but my line went “wha pow”! I turned around just in time to see the snake twirling like a baton flying right at my sister. It hit her in the stomach and hand and she took off running home. I think she ran a 4.2 40 right then. lol She told dad I threw a snake at her and hit her on purpose. Dad asked me about it. I got as far as “I was trying to kill it with my fishing pole, but”. I got sent to my room for the day/night and was banned from fishing for a month. lol

  18. Tim Knight says:

    I want to repost this incase it got lost above as a reply. Anyone ever see what I’m describing here?

    Tim Knight says:
    May 29, 2021 at 6:22 pm
    Yeah, when I said they were popping their heads out of the water, think of it like tulips going up and down, like two dozen of them at different times. I was like WTF is going on. Then I’d see them swimming from one side to the other towards the shore I was at which was maybe a hundred feet or so because it was the short part of the reservoir before you would enter the big open water via boat. As I walked the shore a bit I saw one coiled on land at the edge of the shore and I said that’s it, I don’t know the terrain well enough or the species because some were bigger than others and didn’t look the same. It was the most snake activity I have ever seen. However I also thought, hey they’re thriving here for a reason. Lots of food sources so it was a healthy habitat.

    • bailbondmike says:

      Yeah, btwn you and M13, that brought back that snake memory for me. One of many. But, I never came across more than one at a time unless I was actually hunting them which was another thing I got in trouble for as a kid. lol

      • Tim Knight says:

        Within a couple of hours of being there I saw based on my memory, about two dozen snakes that were all water viable. The ones popping up and down at the shore of the boat launch were not big, maybe a nickel or a quarter sized thick around, but the three I saw swimming from one side to another were like 2-3 feet long and much thicker. The same with the one coiled up on the shore. My guess is small fish (duh), frogs, salamanders, obviously insects and rodents were abundant so they thrive there.

        Right by the boat launch there was a wooden structure type bulletin with pics of what fisherman caught encased in glass. Huge muskie, pike, bass etc. So I was like fuck yeah this is awesome. Well not so much for this novice of the area. I don’t remember if the only fish I caught was a yellow perch or crappie. I fished so many areas over the years I can’t remember. But it wasn’t anything big before I left due to the snakes. LOL

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Mating balls. Snakes gather in numbers when mating.

  19. wyoming85 says:

    I used a regular old shovel.
    Although going into the house for the shotgun did cross my mind!

  20. bailbondmike says:

    How did Trump redirect DOD money to building his wall via EO? Is it more a financial stream thing?
    Stanger, I was wondering that myself. Actually not Trump redirecting money for the wall. I was actually for that. But, how does tax payer money allocated for one thing then later get redirected to another’s pet project? Who is supposed to oversee this? I watched a presentation the other day about government waste. It was a small sample but it disgusted me. One instance where 1.6 million was allocated toward a specific study regarding autism. The entire 1.6 mil got redirected to the National Science something-or-other to be used to study lizards on treadmills to figure out why they “waddle” when they walk or run. I was like WTF? How does that happen? I just want to bitch slap the hell out of the person that made that happen. Another fucked up one was 350K to study the affects of cocaine on quail and their mating habits. I mean, who the fuck thinks this shit up? Are these people the ones who used to put firecrackers in frogs mouths when they were kids? WTF!

    • stangerx says:

      The House is supposed to allocate the money. Seems at least if someone (including the president) wants to put it to a different purpose should be up to Congress.

  21. herdfan says:

    Could someone turn on the heat? It’s cold af. 🥶

    • bailbondmike says:

      Time for a vacation! It’s been perfect here. Low 80’s during day and upper 60’s low 70’s at night. Still cool enough for beers around the fire pit. Well, beers for me and beer/weed for the wife. lol

  22. bailbondmike says:

    Tim, I understood why my Dad didn’t want to hear my side of the snake story. Two months before that, I caught a snapping turtle. It wasn’t huge but it was about 12-14″ wide. I was holding it by it’s tail swinging it toward my sister. I was being careful, but just wanted to tease her. She turned her back to me and I thought she was going to run away so I lunged and swung it at her. Well, she didn’t run and it bit her right on the ass cheek. It didn’t latch on but left a nasty ass bruise. Yes, I got grounded for that one also. That was one of the dumbass times I deserved it. lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      So you were the big brother like what my uncle, my Mom’s older brother, did to my Mom dunking her head under water in the pool leading to her never wanting to learn how to swim. My guess is your sister doesn’t like being in those situations anymore. LOL

  23. bailbondmike says:

    Two dozen snakes, shit! I’d been gone once I counted double digits. I messed with snakes when I was young but it was one on one not one on 20+. lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      I didn’t deal with them in a confrontation, I saw them, kept my eye on them and avoided them. I never saw snakes popping their heads up out of the water 6 inches high then submerging as others would pop up. Those were the tiny snakes by the boat launch. They were there for a reason. Then as I ventured the shoreline I saw the bigger ones and said fuck this. If I was wearing long galoshes boots I would not have been as uneasy, but I wasn’t wearing those. It wasn’t summer but not cold seasons either. Probably hiking boots, socks and jeans for them to attack. It was uneasy but I did check it out for a couple of hours because I love the outdoors. But before dark I said I’m out of here.

      It’s funny, I’ve been reminiscing that day because of the snake conversation. I only went there once. I did drive around looking at all the other bodies of water in the area and tried those. But it was really foreign to me and I never returned. I went back to what I knew.

  24. Mike E. says:

    Some of you make me laugh. I’m sorry if that offends you but you do. You can’t fucking accept anything at face value, especially when you don’t like the outcome. This election was a clear referendum of change. Trump was a good politician and I liked his policies but he was an asshole of mammoth proportions who turned off way too many people. He never carried himself as a President, he was always a big mouthed, smug asshole. He was voted out of office, simple as that. I voted for the asshole because I prefer his policies over Biden and more specifically the progressive Democrats who are gaining power in the party. Not everything is a conspiracy but there will always be those who choose to see it that way. More people simply came out to vote to make sure Trump didn’t get re-elected. I truly hope Trump doesn’t run again in 2024 or the Democrats will get another 4 years.

  25. bailbondmike says:

    Tim, It took her about 8 years when she was a senior in HS to go tubing on that river again. I feel bad that experience took something fun away from her that we did all the time (tubing) but it was an accident. Of course, the turtle incident didn’t help either. lol

  26. CavalierKong says:

    The Padres are in extra innings for the 4th game in a row. Padres won the previous 3.

    Astros just tied it up in the 11th on a passed ball.

  27. pheloniusphish says:

    “ Thanks Pelon…. you taught me something. Thought EOs were a much bigger deal. How did Trump redirect DOD money to building his wall via EO? Is it more a financial stream thing?‘

    He redirected by changing DoD policy. And he shouldn’t have. The whole purpose of Congress controlling the purse is to limit executive power.

  28. pheloniusphish says:

    And although I agree with Mike totally. But the Democratic Party is still the party of criminal support.

    • Mike E. says:

      The Democratic party is also anti black and anti Israel too. It amazes me how many Jewish people vote Democratic and are pro Israel

      • Tim Knight says:

        This is a really tough issue. I know Jews who are pro Palestine. The issue is they never learned to live in peace. Religion is to blame but people still walk around like zombies acting as if that’s not the case. Ignorance rules. So 2021 is the same as thousands of years ago? To ignore evolution and how to prosper as a people is a joke? We must dwell in yesteryear? Does science exist?

        The evolution of technology and understanding has been an obvious movement in the USA and world for decades, but let’s keep pretending some heavenly father is the key? When does that stop?

        I’m sorry but the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy and shit like that needs to end.

        Religious beliefs are cults and they slow progress in life.

        When something good happens it’s praise God, whatever that is. When something is bad, it’s God works in mysterious ways. The easiest way of explaining it is, an almighty God doesn’t exist. It’s actually what we do as humans.

        It’s up to civilized humans to think about morals. God didn’t create us in his image, we as humans created him in our image. It’s so obvious. Humans are narcissists.

      • bookman11 says:

        This is insulting to me as a believer. You talk in absolutes and really you are no different in what you believe in as a person who believes in God.

      • bookman11 says:

        Simple explanation for the evil in this world: sin. We all are guilty of it in one way shape and form: I know I am.

      • bookman11 says:

        And where do “morals” come from” Where does a conscience come from? Evolution? Yeah that is easy to believe…smh.

    • Krishna says:

      I agree Tim Knight, it’s the human condition…..

      …..right up until pp and Mike E fall back on the hateful tribalism. Lmao!

      One side is always wrong, criminals, and liberals and the other side is always right, god loving, and coservative….. gotta love the hypocrisy……

      ….to your point, Tim Knight. Lmao!

  29. pheloniusphish says:

    And you guys gotta get on board with tongue in cheek insults. Pretty sure Stanger didn’t take it too serious when I said all lawyers were bane of society. Even if they are.

    • stangerx says:

      First day of law school is like book camp. You all line up as bad stand-up comedians fire harsh lawyer jokes in your face one after the other. Who ever can’t hack it goes to med school. 🙂

  30. pheloniusphish says:

    A world without Gods, Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, Star Wars and “shit like that’” is pretty monochromatic. Boring and a little sad.

  31. Phindog says:

    Catching up from last night, Tim mentioned tulips going up and down almost made my pink pencil pop out. 🐕😆

  32. ocalarob says:

    wow we have a patriot DC as our HC, we’re going to the superbowl! or are we.

    I’m not taking anything away from Flores, in fact he seems to be on the right track with trying to establish a power run game and great defense however; what has any patriot coach done when they left to become HC’s? i don’t even think Bellechick is that great.

    what made all these guys seem great was the GOAT they had a QB.

    going into year 3 Flores had better step up, i can’t recall any fin coaches that were not contenders lasting more than 4 years,

    i think 4 years is the magic number, year 3, he’s under a microscope.

    and oh yeah, tua has a very weak arm

  33. Phindog says:

    RIP captain Stubbing. Gavin MacLeod passes away at age 90.

  34. ocalarob says:

    as for you middle grounders, that’s a cop out, you are either for or against, saying you don’t like trump as a person because he’s rude is why you are close to middle ground, i say to you what does Trump the person being rude have to do with running a country.
    what does any of the BS the left has politically hurled at Trump have to do with running a country.

    grow some balls, no middle ground!

  35. bailbondmike says:

    Tua has the Matt Roth of arms! 😉

    • New Age says:

      That’s a tough question because I don’t think he’s one of the top 6 WRs we have now. I’d say Flores will want the competition to prove it and doesn’t care about 4 million more than that. Grier would probably cut him today but will defer to Flores. I would also cut him.

  36. bailbondmike says:

    I would wait a few days to see what hits the market with post June 1 cuts. If someone is out there they really really want, go get them. Then, I guess you try to trade or release.

    Heck, if Atlanta loses Julio, they may want a vet to replace him.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Yeah, not like there is big hurry. basically they have until the first game. As long as they move him before that, cut or trade, they are good. I actually think he has a better chance of sticking than Wilson. Wilson is better receiver, but Grant is a better return man.

  37. Mike E. says:

    Rob – Trump was beyond rude, he was an assclown! The President of the United States shouldn’t behave like a 15 year old kid on twitter or Facebook. He never carried himself as if he occupied the highest office in our country. It’s not about middle ground, he just wasn’t a decent and appropriate human being while in office. All that stuff counts, ALL of it. If you want him to run again in ’24, you’re going to be sadly disappointed once again when the Democrats win again because “The Orange Man” is never going to hold a high office in this country ever again. The sooner you realize that the better!

    • ocalarob says:

      and that’s your opinion, you may want to walk in his shoes before judging him though.
      the constant BS he had to put up with. Twitter was his only platform to fight the lies.

      he was elected to run the country

      and like i said, what does your opinion of his personality have to do with running a country?

      he has a huge right wing backing, he’s got my vote.

      • stangerx says:

        My opinion of his personality at least tipped how I voted…. both times. And 3 of the 10 people I most respect in the world thought he was an asshat based on encounters before he ran.

        If you think likeability isn’t a key factor that gets candidates elected…. well then got nothing else. Cause it is one of the most important ones.

  38. Phindog says:

    My vet told me that eating my turds has no nutritional value. WTF do I do now ? What a waste of puppy hood. 🐕

    • stangerx says:

      LOL — both my dogs were into poopy treats. For some reason each thought the other’s more delectable than theirs.

      • Phindog says:

        LOL.. My last 2 girls used to eat each other’s poop,freaked me out. The three I have now have never done it. Is that evolution? 🐕

  39. stangerx says:

    How cool is it the first jersey you get is the team you play for? And M13 should love that it was a Ricky.

  40. Marinofan13 says:

    Look, I can only speak for myself, but I found President Trump to be an extremely likable person. He stood up for the voiceless, he stood up to the corruption, and he stood up for our country.

    After YEARS of the media beating us over the head with their leftist (to put it lightly) views, President Trump put them back in their place. After YEARS of the GOP being shat upon by the opposition party and their proxies, President Trump (figuratively) punched them in their mouths.

    President Trump did what had become well overdue, and thus he breathed life back into the GOP and American exceptionalism. And who followed/backed him, in record numbers? Blacks, Latinos, Asians, gays, lesbians, LEOs, farmers, war vets, blue collars… not to mention MAJOR support from women, men, and white people… who became tired of the racial narratives like BLT and CRT from 0bama.

    Is he polarizing? HELL NO! He was uniting the country — despite his big mouth — unlike 0bama and Biden… who purposefully sowed racial and class division.

    I suppose President Trump is like Deion Sanders: ya either love him or ya hate him. Both have BIG mouths, and they both backed their talk with a job well done.

    I’ll always take positive results with a BIG mouth, over negative results with a *charming* personality (see nearly all American presidents since Lincoln)… we continued to get Darth Sidious.

    This Memorial Day weekend, we should focus on those who gave their very lives to protect our freedoms. I see our freedoms slowly being eroded by the new socialist Dems, but never ONCE under President Trump.

    No new wars were launched under President Trump. So this Memorial Day, remember that actions speak louder than words. Give thanks to those who only live on in memory for their sacrifice via war, to protect/ensure our freedoms that the leftists are trying to take away from us as we speak.

    Freedom isn’t free. REMEMBER the sacrifices our fellow countrymen made, to keep us the beacon of freedom, the world-over… and may we NEVER relinquish our role as a freedom-loving country.

    • stangerx says:

      So you liked Trump and should vote for him if he runs again. Got a chuckle out of “Is he polarizing? HELL NO!” But hey that’s just me. Found him most insular in terms of his strategy or maybe just natural moves. And seems some others did as well…. why he lost the suburbs. But no doubt at all that he locked down the rural areas most tight.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        As I stated in my first sentence, I can only speak for myself.

        Policy > Public persona, when it comes to politics. I used to absolutely adore GWB, but he lost me due to his policies… he went off the rails.

        Like I said, a LOT of people can’t stand Deion Sanders for his BIG mouth, but he always backed it up professionally (meaning, on the field). I feel the same way about President Trump.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        I’m a ‘results’ kind of guy. If one can back up a BIG mouth, then I don’t find it to be “polarizing”… it’s CONFIDENCE.

      • stangerx says:

        I could not more respect your view of Trump. We all choose who to vote for for our own reasons. If there was only one right answer there would not be two parties.

  41. Marinofan13 says:


    I answered the question, too!

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I went through the comments after I’d posted mine, and I don’t think anybody else said Bob Baumhower. There were a few Larry Csonka’s, many Marino’s, but most were jerseys purchased post-2000.

      Makes me feel old, yet I’m one of the youngest here on the FMU.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        That’s not to make everybody here feel old, either. It’s more a reveal that most Twitter users are ‘millennials’.

      • stangerx says:

        Almost made me feel bad cause I didn’t have one till in my 20’s. Whole lot of Dolphins sweatshirts, Tees and mugs under the tree when I grew up though. Guess Mom didn’t get the whole jersey thing, but she did get the Dolphins thing.

  42. Marinofan13 says:

    JMO, Jakeem Grant CAN be traded. I’ll miss that “Little Engine That Could”, but our WR room is crowded, and he certainly has value.

    No need to cut him unless we’re asking far too much in a trade. At the very least, we can get a late rounder for him, without a doubt. Personally, I could see a 5th rounder in exchange.

  43. Marinofan13 says:

    stangerx says:
    May 30, 2021 at 4:02 pm
    Almost made me feel bad cause I didn’t have one till in my 20’s. Whole lot of Dolphins sweatshirts, Tees and mugs under the tree when I grew up though. Guess Mom didn’t get the whole jersey thing, but she did get the Dolphins thing.
    And the “Dolphins thing” is all that matters, my man! Happy that you’re part of the TEAM, as in, ‘PHINS NATION’.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      ‘PHINS NATION’ = any die-hard like you and I are to the Miami Dolphins.

    • stangerx says:

      I’m not too upset about it. Mom just wasn’t a big sports fan, but she knew Dolphins and Pirates was the way to go. Lot of Jerseys in my dresser these days.

  44. Marinofan13 says:


  45. stangerx says:

    I could see this. An even split.

  46. Marinofan13 says:

    bookman11 says:
    May 30, 2021 at 9:24 am
    This is insulting to me as a believer. You talk in absolutes and really you are no different in what you believe in as a person who believes in God.
    As a fellow believer, I concur with you 100%, Bookman. There’s no room for hatred and discrimination like that in this already hatred and discriminating-filled world.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I feel like Tim is my brother from another mother, but he went WAY out of bounds, IMO, with what he stated.

  47. Tim Knight says:

    Bookman, no disrespect to your faith. Just tired of people using religion and God as some sort of crutch that solves nothing and causes many problems throughout the world.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Bro, not only was that a non-apology, but I think you made matters worse. What we as Christians do to help others is most often unadvertised. We SOLVE problems and create hope throughout the world.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        And it’s not as though Christianity is some kind of secret “cult”. Our country was founded upon faith (mostly Christianity), and regardless of your faith, as well.

        It’s not fair to discriminate on one’s personal religious beliefs.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’m not apologizing for my comments because that is what “I believe”. I said no disrespect to his faith. That doesn’t mean I changed my mind. There is a difference.

        Good God fearing Christians were also slave owners as if that was just a mere formality. As long as I go to church, read the good book and pray to the lord, I can still enslave people, whip them and treat them like crap.

        Just saying you’re a Christian does not mean you’re a good person. Good morals comes from your soul, not through religion or some sort of doctrine. I’ve seen too much hypocrisy from all religions. Just like some Muslims say allahu akbar before cutting someone’s head off. What that makes it okay now?

        When you say “we as Christians”, you’re speaking for all of them? That’s my point. That’s not some sort of get out of jail free card. Sorry, not changing my mind on this.

      • bookman11 says:

        Tim, you are completely missing my point. True Christians believe they are born sinful and need a savior, who is Christ. Christians are not perfect, nor do they claim to be. We are all, in your definition, “hypocrites” because we CANNOT, keep Gods law perfectly. That is why we need a savior, and it is more than comforting that he has secured my salvation, all I have to do is trust in him and believe.

      • Marinofan13 says:


  48. Marinofan13 says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 30, 2021 at 7:11 pm

    …When you say “we as Christians”, you’re speaking for all of them? That’s my point. That’s not some sort of get out of jail free card. Sorry, not changing my mind on this.
    I cannot possibly speak for all Christians, honestly. I know so-called “Christians” who are anything but true Christians.

    Look, we’re all sinners… it’s in our DNA! I’m not going to put my foot up in your ass, because we’re all EQUAL as humans… and I’m not so ‘HOLY’ to tell anybody how to live their life. I hope you appreciate that about me!

    I think you’re missing my point: you discriminated against faith
    That’s a HUGE no-no, my man… that’s anti-American. Be VERY careful with your hatred, Tim.

  49. New Age says:


    As a counter, people use hypocrites as a crutch for their hatred of Christianity. When it comes to moral code, the New Testament has a pretty good one. I think the biggest thing to get from people’s failings is that it’s hard for people to be good.

    You don’t have to be Christian or religious to be a good person but it’s a lot easier when you have a guide that’s been around for centuries that has worked when followed.

    We act like we had a code of ‘let people do their own thing as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone’. That was a load of shit and people didn’t follow that. For instance, if you didn’t wear a worthless cloth mask the past year, there wasn’t any ‘do your own thing’. If you vote a certain way, or all kinds of other examples, it’s not human nature to ‘let people do their own thing’ or for people not to be gigantic hypocrites. You are ascribing basic human flaws to a religion and it just doesn’t fit. There are bad people and hypocrites in all areas, but I like what Christian writings had to say. Jesus wasn’t a bad dude. People should try to be more like him.

  50. Tim Knight says:

    Our country was not founded on faith and Christianity. It was founded to get away from it. But yes most of the early settlers were Christians. Would you like to discuss the Puritans and the witch trials?

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Wrong again, my friend. We wanted to get the funk away from the church of England, who DICTATED to one how to worship. Not everybody wanted to worship the Pope, ya know?

      • Marinofan13 says:

        We were — in large part — founded for religious liberty. Read the Constitution.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Nope, not wrong. Some of the earliest settlers were the Puritans who settled in what is now known as Massachusetts. They reestablished the Church of England in the new world and burned people alive at the stake, mostly women, who were considered 2nd class citizens for not conforming to their doctrine. That continued even after the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and Bill of Rights. How can you be a good Christian while burning people alive, enslaving and lynching people?

        Catholicism (the Pope) is another sect of Christianity. They pray in churches with icons of Jesus on the cross. You always seem to think that’s not the case as we’ve had this conversation before. It’s all about believing Jesus is the son of God. No getting around that. I was raised Catholic and once I was done with my confirmation nonsense, I was out. My Mom wanted me to do that because it was the traditional thing to do. But as I got older after being Christened as a baby, making Communion as a young child and then Confirmation as an older child, I realized how creepy it all was.

        I wasn’t raised as an atheist or Satan worshiper. I realized evil existed within this ritualistic religion. So I don’t need lessons on any of this.

  51. Rockphin says:

    Gandalf is more powerful than Voldemont!

  52. Marinofan13 says:


    To be perfectly honest with you, I understand where you’re coming from. I don’t agree, but I truly understand you. About 10 years ago, I took a dive into the Crusades and did major research. Yes… religion caused much warfare, and I get it. We ALL get it.

    But we don’t live in those times any longer, right? Can’t we all just get along? I know a SHIT-load of people from around the world, and our personal religious beliefs don’t stand in our way of friendships and unity.

  53. Marinofan13 says:

    Yes… we should probably get back to foosball, good folks!

  54. Marinofan13 says:


    Who would win in this fight: Vader or Batman?

  55. Tim Knight says:

    Amendment I
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


    It’s the first one! Where does it say our country was founded on religion or specifically Christianity? It says the exact opposite. Yes you’re free to exercise your faith, but it’s not the law of the land. That’s what makes America great. Religion does not belong in politics. End of story.

    Then you have a guy like Ted Cruz who ran on Judeo-Christian values. He violated the 1st amendment from the get go. Read the Constitution? I did. He didn’t and I guess you didn’t either, M13. It’s the first one!

  56. bookman11 says:

    My objection is the use of the word Christian to be tied to words like “Religious” and “cults”. Frankly it is insulting and irresponsible, IMO. People talk about “labeling” and “generalizing”, yet have no issue doing that with people who believe in The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. I am not trying to push my beliefs on others, but don’t lump mine into your perceptions.

    By the way, how does a person having a conscience fit into evolution?

  57. Marinofan13 says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 30, 2021 at 8:08 pm
    Nope, not wrong. Some of the earliest settlers were the Puritans who settled in what is now known as Massachusetts. They reestablished the Church of England in the new world and burned people alive at the stake, mostly women, who were considered 2nd class citizens for not conforming to their doctrine…
    You are, of course, correct in that part of early American history. Yes… you were always going to have the old-guard trying to keep it “for the King/Queen”… hence burning at the stake and so many other atrocities that carried over to the New World.

    We RAN from that European BS, Bro! I’d very much love to castigate a certain sect of so-called “Christianity”, but I won’t do so… but it failed my father as it did YOU.

    My main problem with you, though, is this: you are being DISCRIMINATORY against any person of faith. Sorry, but that’s unacceptable in America, my man.

    • bookman11 says:

      Agree, particularly with this last paragraph. Discrimination and insulting to people of faith.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Wrong! How many times did I say it’s not about faith, but the organization of a religion to influence and say it is so? There is no science to support it.

      But as we discussed weeks ago when discussing the universe, we both came to the conclusion that something super natural happened to create life. Something happened to make this all happen, right? Is it a heavenly father who looks like an elder wise man wearing a robe because it started thousands of years ago and that’s how they dressed? I’m sorry, I might as well believe in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny when we all know now as adults, that it was our parents and family etc. that gave us those gifts.

      The fairytale stuff needs to go away if we are to solve the problems in the world. Religion breeds radical ideas based on nothing other than indoctrinated ideas based on nothing but that. No science!

  58. bookman11 says:

    Look Tim, if you chose not to believe, so be it, I am sad, but it is not my business. I wish you the best, and hope you are comfortable knowing when you die you just go to “dirt” and nothing else happens. Personally, I like the promise of paradise. Peace to you.

  59. Tim Knight says:

    Bookman, you’re too emotional about this that you don’t read what I say, but what you think I’m saying. Faith is not what I’m attacking, said that now 3 or 4 times. It’s this idea that because someone wrote it, it must be true. You have that much faith in humans? I do not. Too many liars and evil people with agendas. I’ve seen you say that about politics. But you believe people from thousands of years ago.

    Never said our energy ends and your soul doesn’t move on from your human body. Not sure about paradise, but continued existence is possible. I believe more in reincarnation via energy/spirit/soul than living in some land of la la la. That actually makes more sense. Doesn’t mean you’ll see your loved ones again as you once did. Just the ever evolving creation of life. Kind of like Déjà vu.

    No need to be sad for me. I feel I’m seeing it more for what it really is now than how I was taught about it. I’m still learning for myself. When I die, I’ll know. Or not. But I’m happy I was given a shot to take the ride in this life. 🙂

  60. Tim Knight says:

    For the record, denial is a big part of the problem. I’ll just let that stew for awhile.

  61. CavalierKong says:

    Sheesh, the Avs picked up right where they left off after whipping us in 4 games.

  62. bookman11 says:

    Tim, when you say I am too emotional about this, you are once again labeling me to fit your narrative. I really don’t care what you believe.

    • bookman11 says:

      And btw, are you saying reincarnation is easier to believe in than a triune God?

      • Tim Knight says:

        Yes in a scientific way based on energy. Not saying I’m right. Just think that the belief in reincarnation that precedes Christianity might be more viable. After all Christians believe Christ rose from the dead. Maybe energy recycles itself.

        I said earlier Déjà vu is one of the reasons I believe that. You ever experience that? Not that you did something similar a week ago, but that you might have done that in another life many years ago?

        Protons and Electrons giving you a bump of info. Impossible?

    • Tim Knight says:

      You replied to me that I was mocking your faith when I said multiple times that’s not what it was about. Your emotions skipped over that time and time again. For the record I don’t care what anyone believes until it affects the rights of others in an evil way.

      I believe Christianity is evil. History tells me so. Judeo-Christian values created Satan. They knew it existed and had to incorporate it somehow. This is bad and God is all powerful, except when Satan… is doing whatever it wants to do. Then we must condemn!!!! But it will happen again. Shhh… keep praying…

  63. pheloniusphish says:

    Atheism is no less a a religion and a cult than Christianity, Judaism, Islam, or any other belief system.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Atheism is no belief in God. What is God?

      If you call out religions people get all fucked up. How many Gods do we have in this world because there are surely more than one? Maybe that’s the answer. God is more than one.

  64. bookman11 says:

    “I believe Christianity is evil”. I really don’t have much left to say to you. I sure hope when you die you are not reincarnated as a Christian Pastor. I’m done on here for awhile. Good bye folks

  65. pheloniusphish says:

    “ I believe Christianity is evil. History tells me so.”
    The greatest atrocities in history where committed in the name of Atheism. Communism abhors religion and does its best to stamp it out, committing mass murder and genocide. History tells me so – Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Cambodia. History tells me so.

    I, personally, have no religion. Too busy living to worry about dying. But the worlds ills are not caused by faith, regardless of what the faith is in.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Started long before that, man. Once again faith in something superior is not what I said. I guess Satan keeps rearing his ugly head. LOL

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Atheism is a belief system, just like Christianity et al. One side believes in a higher being, the other side believes in the absence of of a higher being. Segments of both sides use their beliefs as justification to gain power.

  66. pheloniusphish says:

    C’mon Bookman. We all get sideways with each other on occasion. You don’t want to talk to Tim, don’t. Ain’t no mortal enemies here. Except for socialist, communist, and lawyers.

  67. Marinofan13 says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 30, 2021 at 10:12 pm
    …I believe Christianity is evil.
    WOAH! Slow your roll there, dude. That’s not even cool, and you know it. For somebody I’ve talked to in past regarding such matters, there isn’t “evil” (your words, not mine!).

    My Brother, you are way off track. If we want 100% acceptance of people, ya can’t be talking out the side of your mouth calling Christianity “evil”. It doesn’t work that way and you know as much. buddy.

    It took me many years (y’all should know) to become accepting of gays. I know some harbor hatred towards me for the ignoramus statements I made approximately 10 years ago on one mere night: I’ve changed, and I have many of y’all to thank for that. Yet, I never hated (or perceived as evil) my gay friend David… who had his business burned down out of HATE. I went to David’s bar without any hesitation on his opening night, because I knew he was a good man.

    EVIL is a very strong word, Tim. I KNOW ‘evil’, for I’ve fought it first hand… time and again.

    You’re my Brother, brother! Please don’t sound like a Nazi when talking about Christians.

    • Tim Knight says:

      This coming from a guy who can’t touch a subject and word starting with “com”. LOL

      Slow my role? Nazi? What does that mean? Hitler was a Christian with very fucked up values because he was psychotic. I would think that fits with the same type of people who enjoyed burning people alive at the stake. The only difference is he didn’t want to watch it, but he called for it. He was an evil coward.

  68. Mike E. says:

    I can only speak for myself and my many observations of people who absolutely hated Trump. M – You don’t think Trump was a polarizing figure? I don’t think a more polarizing figure was ever in the White House. People either loved him or hated him, there was no middle ground whatsoever, the very definition of polarizing. Never mind what the media did or said, or what people said, did you look at Trump and think “That’s how a President of the USA should behave”? You think his constant bitch tweets on social media were Presidential? If you did, then I guess we have a very different idea of how the President of this great country should carry himself.

    • pheloniusphish says:

      Yep. I loved most of Trump’s policies. I didn’t even mind some of his social media stuff and loved him jacking up the media. But his pettiness and braggadocio got old quick. He was a piss poor leader because he needed to take personal credit for everything good that happened instead of giving credit to his subordinates. He was only America first when it was about him.

      • Mike E. says:

        Thanks for your honesty. I voted for him twice, but it wasn’t because I liked him as a human being and it wasn’t because I think he was Presidential. I truly think other countries laughed at America while Trump was President and rightfully so. I also think some countries are laughing at America now for different reasons.

  69. Tim Knight says:

    Phish, the friends of mine who are atheists put no time into it. They simply don’t view life as a group or being directed by the BS that people like Joel Osteen pray on. They see it for what it is. There is no organization. That’s the crux of this conversation that emotion can’t wrap their head around.

    M13 said “we as Christians”. He told me he’s part of a tribe. I didn’t make that up. There are also agnostics who don’t believe in doctrine but are open to a deity. But you saw the emotion get very frustrated when questioning their religion. They have no problem questioning anyone else’s politics though. Food for thought.

    Hmmm… yes… interesting. God of Thunder should come down on me for that. Not saying that won’t happen. LOL

  70. bailbondmike says:

    With this COVID unemployment and stimulus checks, we have been raking it in this year. This month has been our biggest in the 8.5 years I have been here. We topped our monthly overhead by 6 figures a week ago. Bonus time!

  71. Ken says:

    My 2 cents fwiw is that Christianity is not evil. People can be evil. Many evil people have done terrible things in the name of Christianity. At the same time many good wonderful things in the name of Christianity. Don’t confuse the belief system with individual deeds and individual actors

    • Ken says:

      The same can be said as to most religions

    • Tim Knight says:

      Why not not confuse the people who engage in it? That’s the problem. That’s the crutch. Well they’re good Christians, how could they possibly do such horrible things? Not everyone of them engages in evil, but they push it aside over… and over.

      Let’s pretend that didn’t happen. Onward and upward. Right!?

      • Ken says:

        No Tim. Never forget and the people who engaged in those acts were not good Christians. Which is exactly don’t confuse the individual actors with the belief system

      • Ken says:

        My point ^

      • Tim Knight says:

        I thought this wasn’t about groups? Yet we see things such as “we as Christians”?

        What does that mean? For me it means turn a blind eye and pretend all the horror doesn’t matter, we’re all good people within that umbrella. Let’s move on and pretend that never happened.

        For the record, I was never molested or anything like that incase some of you are wondering. I’ve just seen too many God loving Christians say one thing and do the other. I don’t trust the group. Not saying there are no good individuals. Just tired of hearing well he or she goes to church so I’m surprised they would do anything like that. Right, that’s the crutch from the get go. They love the lord and go to church, no way they can be bad.

        Oh… yes they can. We’ve seen it forever, but as good God fearing Christians, as long as I say that, let’s all turn a blind eye.

        It has nothing to do with FAITH!!!! You protect bad people under the guise of being a good Christian and that tag is BS. Be a good person and stop hiding under some nonsense that you believe your God allows you to do. Your God doesn’t allow it, you allow it in the name of your God while doing your evil.

        No more crutch from me. I will call it out whenever I see it.

        I never called out anyone for their faith here on this blog, they defended their fucked up religion. Two different things.

        Yes… Christianity is evil. Just like every other hypocritical religion and organized cult. Open your eyes without being in fear of backlash. It won’t end until you call it out. You’ll be having the same political discussions until you’re dead. Stop the madness.

  72. CavalierKong says:

    I swear, this blog. It’s always “How’s the weather?”, “How are the kids?”. “Did the doctor identify that rash?” Never anything interesting or controversial…


  73. CavalierKong says:

    I’ll weigh in with my own perspective, and sorry for the long post, but how can you even scratch the surface of this kind of conversation in 3 or 4 paragraphs? It’s looong and I still don’t feel I came close to adequately expressing the nuance of my views.

    I’m not a believer in any of Earth’s pantheon of gods. I believe in the possibility of a creator, but definitely not one created by man, so I guess I’d be labeled as a subset of agnostic.

    I think, among other things, man has a deep-seated need to believe we are more than the tiny specks that we are, and the ego of man is terrified that it disappears at death, and those are two of the major needs that drive human spiritualism. I believe in positive factors that drive us as well, but that is another conversation.

    I believe spiritualism is a necessary component to humanity, and we all find our own path to communion with whatever ‘spirituality’ means to us. For some it’s faith in a higher being, for others it’s connecting with nature, or meditative self reflection of existence and/ or purpose, or any number of things. All of these, and many more paths can lead to individual spiritual fulfillment.

    There are many ways to talk about religion.

    When someone says they have faith in Christ (or whomever) and they feel joy knowing they have a secure afterlife, I am happy they have that spiritual contentment and sense of peace, relief, or whatever it means to them to have that reassurance.

    I don’t feel the need to challenge a person’s belief in that because my opinion on their faith is entirely irrelevant from both our perspectives. This is the individual aspect of faith and religion.

    You can talk about a religion or faith on a moral level. All religions have a set of tenets and moral philosophy. IMO these ethical codes can have great value, and can be a written path for people to follow even without belief. Sometimes elements of these codes are terrible and outdated, such as being intolerant of gays, blacks, or death to the infidel. The moral codes of organized religion do sometime get updates, but it often moves slowly.

    You can also talk about religion on an organizational level, the administrative and socio-political aspects of religion, and how it influences behavior. To me, this is an entirely different conversation about religion than discussing the tenants of faith or an individual’s own relationship with their god. I think this can be discussed without personally insulting individuals.

    I have known people of many faiths, and many great people who’s faith defines them to one degree or another. On an individual and local level, religious communities often do a lot of good and are positive contributors to our society.

    In my opinion, just like any other organizations, religious ones can be and often are corrupt, used for nefarious purposes, and constructed to manipulate and control large numbers of people.

    We’ve seen all throughout history how religion has been used to commit atrocities on large scale. It’s just as easy to do horrible things when you have god on your side as it is when there is no belief in god. There is very little scarier than someone who does something horrible with the absolute faith they are in the right. Crusades, witch trials, numerous ‘cleansings’ litter our past.

    With that being said, I also think, in general, people are just rotten lice on the face of the planet. If we removed religion entirely, the same horrible shyte would happen. We’d just be fighting, and killing, and brutalizing each other over something else. So even though I personally am not a big fan of organized religion, I don’t rail against it, for the problems that arise from it will always be the people that use it for their own purposes. And that doesn’t change. That is who we are as a species.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Good post! You were more diplomatic than me. I’m tired of hearing the same nonsense though. Watch how people divide their political and religious views. Total hypocrisy. I see it on FB with my family and friends. I’m for this except for that. Right… got it! All I can do is laugh. LOL

      I avoid this blog when I see the same shit being spewed over and over. I jump in and add some football commentary, it gets ignored and that’s fine. But Trump and Biden still rule the roost.

      Go Phins and go Tua!!!!

    • ocalarob says:

      Wow,…… so i guess you don’t believe in Santa Clause either?

  74. ocalarob says:

    our creator is gas. the gas that forms stars, as that’s what we are made of, star shit.
    long ago a giant star went supernova and emitted gas to form our sun and planets.
    that star that went supernova created us, and previous gas created it.
    so when it comes right down to it……. our creator is gas.

    with all the hot air around here i’m surprised no one is aware of this.

  75. ocalarob says:

    One of my favs Tim,

  76. Ken says:

    I am not talking about protecting anyone under the guise of being a good Christian. Quite to the contrary I find the hypocrites reprehensible. What I am saying the core principles of Christianity and most religions are not evil. The same cannot be said for all people

  77. wyoming85 says:

    labels for anything is a bigoted practice!
    Humans are mammal’s with a high intelligence! Therefore our main goal in life is to crush all rivals, and pass on our genes to the next generation!

    It is that simple!!

  78. Phindog says:

    Well I’m not a religious dog, but I do give everyone respect to anyone until they prove
    Otherwise . I’m glad people have faith in something as long as it’s not imposed on my rights as a free thinking individual. With that said I hope all of you have a great day.
    On a side note, I was watching the neighbors dog chase it’s tail. Mine was docked as a puppy and I don’t think that’s fair.🐕

  79. wyoming85 says:

    Or will we????

  80. Phindog says:

    Wow. Back in 1988 I was in the Persian gulf and Bob Hope and Barbra Eiden with her daughter’s performed on my ship for Memorial Day. What a great memory!
    I hope all of you have a great Memorial Day and appreciate all that sacrificed their lives for your freedom. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦮

  81. Mike E. says:

    Thank you to all of you here who have served admirably and also to remember those that were lost doing the same. Happy Memorial Day!

  82. Phindog says:

    Before Bob Hope performed that day my Captain presented me the Navy Achievement Medal and Bob Hope was the second person to shake my hand. I will never forget this as long as I live.

    • stangerx says:

      Hope you got a pic man. That’s a moment. What was your assignment? If that’s the right term.

      • Phindog says:

        I wished I had a pic but back then you weren’t allowed to photograph anything out there. As far as what I did , let’s just say I transported special forces from certain ares to places IE northern lillypad and berge Hercules to places they needed to be.

      • stangerx says:

        Cool, except for the lack of a pic. You were the transport specialist, and not for cartons of TP. Must have met Top Secret….. lol.

    • Phindog says:

      Barge ^^^^^ flipping auto correct.

    • Phindog says:

      What I should’ve said is that I took certain people to do a certain thing and that I got my tan off the coast of Iran.

      • stangerx says:

        Sounds cool as anything. See dudes saying “Dog we’re done….pick us up at..” this or that jetty.

  83. stangerx says:

    Great vid to get to know Waddle the person. Not much football in it but really well done. Seems like a good dude. Funny that for this he was hanging out with Chase and Harris pre-draft.

  84. Rockphin says:


  85. Rockphin says:

  86. stangerx says:

    “I want to know why what happened in Myanmar can’t happen here.”
    — Q to former former national security adviser General Michael Flynn

    “No reason. I mean, it should happen here.”
    — Answer from Flynn, who was pardoned by Trump

    On February 1, Myanmar’s military overthrew its democratically elected government and arrested its leaders.

      • stangerx says:

        Yeah it was said, and in front of a crowd.

      • Rockphin says:

        my eyeroll wasn’t because I doubted it. It was because you posted it here. Where it will be automatically defended by the indoctrinated. 5-4-3-2….

      • stangerx says:

        Think only a person or two on the board are in favor of a military takeover. Just scary to me that you can hold a conference where people clap and cheer about it.

  87. ocalarob says:

    Tua posted the 2nd lowest QBR on passes of 25 yards or more.

    • stangerx says:

      Think the guy in the middle pegged it….. Tua gave up too much info. Was shocked you weren’t there when this came out 3 or 4 days ago. Or you just being kind to your favorite QB? 🙂

    • stangerx says:

      ORob — that’s a real good vid. Only surprised you put out one so positive about Tua. They don’t say he is Peyton, but clearly they think he can get it done.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I agree with what Simms said. We all know Tua has to show growth this season. That’s how it works. Players should get better after their rookie season.

  88. Tim Knight says:

    Sorry to mess up the blog with my rants last night.

    On this day we remember and honor.

  89. stangerx says:

    “When he lets it loose and he’s being himself, we’ll win every game. When he’s feeling himself and he’s moving and doing his thing, Tua is one of the best quarterbacks, literally, around. And people don’t know that yet.”
    — Lynn Bowden Jr.

    • Krishna says:

      Don’t tell Orob.

      WTF does a receiver know, especially, since he never took Orob’s QB seminar on throwing mechanics…..lmao!

  90. Marinofan13 says:

    Phindog says:
    May 31, 2021 at 1:32 pm
    Before Bob Hope performed that day my Captain presented me the Navy Achievement Medal and Bob Hope was the second person to shake my hand. I will never forget this as long as I live.
    BROTHER! I grew up as a kid watching all of Bob Hope’s specials. That is quite the honor to have shook hands with that great man! I’m proud of you, Phindog!

  91. Marinofan13 says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 31, 2021 at 5:09 pm
    Sorry to mess up the blog with my rants last night.

    On this day we remember and honor.
    Your apology is most accepted, my Brother. I, too, have gone on rants here that I’ve regretted. The idea is to be more tolerant of others who don’t think exactly like you do. You’ve taught me tolerance, now I kindly ask you to become more tolerant.

    For what it’s worth, I truly understand where you come from. I swear, half the people in my church are anything but true Christians: they are anything but tolerant. But not ALL of any thing, structure, organization, class, etc, etc, can be categorized into one lump sum… and you know it.

    As others have said to you, Christianity isn’t evil. Look, it’s the evil asshole who uses Christianity as a crutch (<– your words). I made a song back in '98, dissing a former member of my crew. I said, "your using the Cross as a crutch"… GREAT MINDS! It wasn't a diss to Christianity, it was a diss to his abusing his responsibilities as a Christian and as a hypocrite… but that's another tale for another time, Tim.

    Just please stop marginalizing people based on RELIGION!!! THAT'S evil, discriminatory, and anti-Constitutional… most intolerant. The only thing that matters is the content of one's character in my eyes. I'M not the judge, and most of my friends don't believe in God, either.

    I respect you, man! We're all good, and thank you for the apology, sincerely.

    And yes… today we REMEMBER and HONOR.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Thanks! My main issue is the wolf in sheep’s clothing analogy. Deceptive evil really bothers me.

      Once again it wasn’t about faith, it’s about how people use it. Just not a fan of organized religion. I should have just gotten off the subject. Live and learn.

  92. Marinofan13 says:

    Mike E. says:
    May 30, 2021 at 11:12 pm
    I can only speak for myself and my many observations of people who absolutely hated Trump. M – You don’t think Trump was a polarizing figure? I don’t think a more polarizing figure was ever in the White House. People either loved him or hated him…
    It all depends on how one looks at it, my friend. I suppose I’m talking, “from a certain point of view”. Had it not been for the media, there would be no polarization.

    You will recall how GWB was — at the time — the most polarizing President of all-time: the Afghanistan invasion, the Iraq War, NO on stem-cell research, YES on the Patriot Act, etc, etc.

    And before GWB? Ronald Reagan was the most polarizing President of all-time.

    I think you’ll see a history of the democrat media trying to take out sitting Republican presidents. Only, Trump punched back. If that qualifies as “polarizing”, I see your point. But to me, he was bringing America back and UNITED everyone… not “polarizing” at all, in my eyes.

    Fuck the media, man.

    • stangerx says:

      Given that, why do you figure Trump’s favorability ratings were so low? He never broke 50% and normally was like say 43% or 44% or so.

      • Tim Knight says:

        He turned a lot of people off because of his character. I agree with Mike E’s view on Trump. It’s not just about policy with a president, they need to be good statesmen to represent the entire country. He was not that.

  93. Krishna says:

    “Just please stop marginalizing people based on RELIGION!!! THAT’S evil, discriminatory, and anti-Constitutional… most intolerant.”

    So is marginalizing those that don’t subscribe to RELIGION and hang their hat on god and country.

    It’s country first and foremost in the greatest country where people died for that honor and today is a day to honor that sacrifice.

  94. Krishna says:

    Not that I believe in polls as i for one would probably lie to fuck with the whole process…lol, but

    The people in the polls are overwhelmingly daying, thank god he’s outta there, even those that voted for him twice.

    What world are you getting your news?

  95. wyoming85 says:

    Well I think I’ll go drink some of that coloscopy stuff! It’s got to be as informative as this place has been lately!

  96. Marinofan13 says:

    Krishna says:
    May 31, 2021 at 7:45 pm
    …What world are you getting your news?
    Apparently not from where YOU are getting your news, pal. I think we can agree that there is a serious news problem in the USA. You’ll take your side, and I’ll take mine.

    Why are you attacking me, I ask? Do you really believe that certain folks should be marginalized in the USA? If so, you’re no better than the KKK.

    Please explain yourself, before you wreck yourself.

  97. Marinofan13 says:

    This is Memorial Day, where very many DIED to protect our freedoms. That includes freedom of religion, and guaranteed under the Constitution. God bless our dead.

  98. Krishna says:

    Your holier than thou attack on Tim Knight showed your “strong faith” in god and somehow even in the constitution. As TK pointed out, this country was founded on freedom of religion and freedom FROM religion.

    Yet the so-called moral majority was rooted in Republican rhetoric. God and Republicans, rah, rah. I get what TK was saying, you don’t.

    Jihadist of the east are the same as jihadist of the west. Religion and its followers are a major cause of death on this planet. It’s kinda sick. A cloak of “religion”, yours or anyone elses is dogma.

    Truth matters and i haven’t found it in religion.

    I know love matters more, and I’m absolutely certain if there was only love, there would be no religion.

    • Krishna says:

      That’s to Marinofan13 at 8:08.

    • Tim Knight says:

      You sound like what John Lennon and The Beatles were saying.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Very good… you’ve stated your point. And no, I didn’t attack Tim… we had an open and earnest conversation. Never once did I attack my friend, so stop trying to divide us, interloper.

      At least you’re honest… you don’t believe in freedom of religion, or any religion whatsoever. Sad… you are as fugly as the KKK. That’s as anti-American as one can be.

  99. Tim Knight says:

    Let’s enjoy the freedom of this country on this day of remembrance and honor. Regardless of how crazy this world and country can be, we are blessed to live in The USA. We really are.

  100. Ken says:

    So how about those Dolphins?

  101. wyoming85 says:

    That was sarcasm by the way!

  102. Krishna says:

    Lmao….nice Wyo.

  103. Krishna says:

    The WRs are pussies, though. At least last year’s unit proved that.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Pussies is a bit over the top. Staying healthy is key. But the group should be better and faster. Parker, Fuller and Waddle along with Gesicki on paper looks really good in 11 personnel.

      • Krishna says:

        On paper fine, but never knew that to work.

        If you can’t be on the field season after season, or game to game, then yeah, pussy.

        Something’s not right; it can’t be bad luck with the same shit every year.

        Who’s our top six on paper, who were our top six last year? Parker leads the list and didn’t play a full year ever in his career. Are you saying pussy is too strong a word? Lol….

      • Krishna says:

        Seriously, I can’t remember who our WRs were last year that played a full season. Did any play half a season? Is that normal in the NFL? Honestly, I really don’t know.

      • Tim Knight says:

        This is a typical formation in today’s NFL. This is our RPO and base spread offense.

        We all know what Parker is when healthy – a quality tall WR who can high point the ball and has enough speed to get open consistently, catches most of the passes thrown his way.

        Fuller is an explosive WR who makes big plays, again, when healthy. He misses a lot of games, but when he’s on the field he’s always a threat.

        Waddle is a prospect we all know about. Super speed but also tough for a guy under 5-10 and about 180. Lots of stuff we can do with him. His ankle injury doesn’t make me think he’s injury prone just yet. He did come back for the National Championship game.

        Gesicki is a very tall and fast quality receiving TE with an amazing catch radius.

        This group with whoever is at RB is not easy to defend.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Parker played in 14 games last year but yes he tends to play banged up or leave games. I don’t consider him a pussy though. That dude makes some nice contested catches.

      • Krishna says:

        Well said about what’s on paper going forward for WRs.

        Wyo’s list was about QB, owner, RBs, AND WRs. I don’t have complaints on this list from last year except WR. I thought we should have started over on that unit. In a lot of ways we may have done that this year, on paper.

  104. Tim Knight says:

    Krishna, I wasn’t going by Wyo’s list.

    I understand people not being high on the RB position. WR has a lot of talent but no doubt durability is a concern. Then there is Tua. Can he take his game to a higher level? Those are the only questions I have about this team. You can add the OL to that but I think that’s going to become a strength. It’s just very young. But I really like the projection there.

    On defense, I think we’re building a monster.

    • Krishna says:

      Personally, I think a stout OL will allow everyone (all units mentioned) to perform at a higher level, except Ross. ..lol.

      • Krishna says:

        And, to your point about D, it sure looks that way, and if so, will also help all the units Wyo mentioned, except Ross, again….

  105. ocalarob says:

    stangerx says:
    May 31, 2021 at 5:12 pm
    ORob — that’s a real good vid. Only surprised you put out one so positive about Tua. They don’t say he is Peyton, but clearly they think he can get it done.

    I dont have an agenda against Tua, just trying to get other opinions on his play, i take positive remarks about him with a grain of salt though.
    i have seen him play, he has issues that may be very hard to correct IMO.
    sure you can build a team around him to disguise his shortcomings but why should you?
    im sure glad they got brissett. a guy who can throw over the top.

  106. ocalarob says:

    i think this guy makes the team, so say goodbye to grant and wilson

  107. ocalarob says:

    i had watched recent video of tua throwing and it does appear he has a higher release point, we shall see.

  108. ocalarob says:

    oh yeah, & Gesicki has one foot on a trade or fa’cy, and the other foot on a banana peel.

  109. D says:

    Krishna says:
    May 31, 2021 at 8:30 pm
    Your holier than thou attack on Tim Knight showed your “strong faith” in god and somehow even in the constitution. As TK pointed out, this country was founded on freedom of religion and freedom FROM religion.

    Yet the so-called moral majority was rooted in Republican rhetoric. God and Republicans, rah, rah. I get what TK was saying, you don’t.

    Jihadist of the east are the same as jihadist of the west. Religion and its followers are a major cause of death on this planet. It’s kinda sick. A cloak of “religion”, yours or anyone elses is dogma.

    Truth matters and i haven’t found it in religion.

    I know love matters more, and I’m absolutely certain if there was only love, there would be no religion.
    Im not fond of organized religion for this reason, though i am a very big believer in God and my faith and God’s teachings guide me as best they can to be a better person.

    All extremists however, are not “God’s people”. God, whether it be Allah, Yahweh, Brahma (since he is the creator), the Jade Emperor, whatever none of them want for death in their name. These are Human intentions and its the perversion of scriptures that have humans tie it to God’s will. I read the same book that a lot of the Christian zealots do and not one have i ever seen anything that say kill thy neighbor lol. I haven’t seen anything that say you shouldn’t have tolerance for other religions, or no religion for that matter, and yes the overall tone of the book is love for others. Just as in the Koran, the only mention of violence was to protect the religion and its people from those that would subjugate it. Evil people in the world have often camouflaged themselves with God to gather people too simple minded to recognize the difference, to do things with a passion for that which they think they know but sadly do not.

    Again, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, but mine is that if religion is practiced appropriately it enforces the ideals of love, tolerance and oneness, its just unfortunate that so many have used it to divide themselves from one another.

    Incidentally, there are a large majority of Christians on the left as well, God is not a Right or Left thing.

    Truth is founding ideal of all religions, you haven’t found it in “God’s people” maybe, maybe not see a lot of it in its practice by those same people, but its undeniably part of God’s word.

  110. steveccnv says:

    Stanger, made my air/car reservations for the fest. My cousin his wife and 13 year old daughter want to go also. Is their a min age?

  111. Rhino says:

    Scrolled through (a lot of topics here LOL). I will take the safe route.

    My first Dolphins jersey was #12 Bob Griese… Christmas 1973. Shocked I got it cuz $ was tight with 7 kids (youngest 8 yr old, oldest 15 yr old). I wore that jersey constantly. When my mom insisted it be washed I waited shirtless for it to dry on the clothes line (during summer) or hanging above the heater to dry during the winter.

  112. sb7mvp says:

    The only jersey I’ve ever owned was Ryan Tannehill. I won it at a fair, never wore it, and I gave it to my nephew. Not because I disliked Ryan Tannehill, but I don’t believe grown men should be wearing jerseys.

    • stangerx says:

      Men trying to be fanboys aside, nothing better to wear to a hot Dolphins game. The little holes give cool ventilation and the thing doesn’t absorb sweat and get smelly when dries off.

  113. Rockphin says:

    Post Deleted by User

    • stangerx says:

      Guess that’s the official announcement that Rock is now an admin. 🙂

      But do hope doesn’t mean he is having problems.

      • steveccnv says:

        He’s his own personal admin

      • Rockphin says:

        Steve got it. LOL I typed a long reply to someone, read it and decided that it was better to just not post it, but after typing 3 long paragraphs I wanted to post SOMETHING. LOL

        no admin rights here my friends. Just foreknowledge that my post would stir shit.

  114. steveccnv says:

    Stanger, how do I pay? Don’t have pay pal or anything like that, but my cousin lives I’m Miramar

  115. Rockphin says:

    I don’t make people stand the F up anymore so your younguns should be safe from my mouth / obscenities at the least.

    • stangerx says:

      Only thing was ever worried about with kids around was swear words…. and that includes me.

    • D says:

      Then i could never go when kids are around because I’m a swearer lol. Luckily my kids bought into the adult works kids words conversation otherwise my kids would be dropping cuss words all over the place because i say them fairly frequently around them

      • stangerx says:

        D — don’t worry about that aspect. All kids need to do to find dirty words is hit the internet. Am hoping you come to the Fest.

  116. son of a son of a shula says:

    Steve, where are you staying?

    • steveccnv says:

      My aunts house in Miramar

      • steveccnv says:

        Flying in/out of MCO

      • steveccnv says:

        Can you pick me up from the airport😉

      • D says:

        Im sure you can catch a ride with a truck driver, just pretty that mouth up and there ya go. That might not be suitable for the kids though, even if you can get the guys on this board to behave.

      • steveccnv says:

        Can you pick me up from the airport usually brings crickets, like saying, can you help me move😉

        Renting a car for 2 weeks

      • stangerx says:

        steve — if you will have your own car and coming with that many people you should consider getting an orange pass, which will let you park right next to the tailgate. Might be say $40 but divide by 6 and not that much.

      • steveccnv says:

        How do I get an orange pass?

      • stangerx says:

        Stubhub or whatever similar. Probably not available yet unless they’ve sent out the season tickets.

  117. son of a son of a shula says:

    Steve, yeah I can get you from the airport but wouldn’t you be picking up your rental car there?

  118. Rockphin says:


    When the Dolphins selected cornerback Noah Igbinoghene with the 30th pick in the 2020 NFL Draft, it was with the idea that he would develop behind Pro Bowlers Xavien Howard and Byron Jones.

    According to Miami coaches, that development has occurred.

    “It’s been a lot of growth,” Dolphins cornerbacks coach Charles Burks said recently. “I love where he’s at. Again, he has a tremendous work ethic, attention to detail, day-in and day-out. I believe in Noah and I’m glad he’s here.”


    • D says:

      You have two former pro-bowlers in front of you and they didn’t want to transition him to slot or utilize him that way, i mean those are all plausible reason we didn’t see him as much and i pretty much said that last year when people were pooping on him. We gotta stop looking at our new shiny toy and being convinced if they aren’t played 100% of the time the pick was a bust. I mean that’s where you want to be as a team, where your first rounders aren’t forced into starting roles right off because ya have the depth ya need.

    • ocalarob says:

      that’s great news! he may be a hall of famer! why even play the games,

    • steveccnv says:

      Generally grain of salt type of article, but CB is hard on a rookie, so I’m going to believe, but still need to see him play in preseason.

      Would be great to have Iggy starting in the slot and Holland at FS, put the athletes on the field

  119. steveccnv says:

    What should I need to bring to the tailgate?

  120. Phindog says:

    Whack for my Dadio, wack for my Dadio.. Whiskey in the Jaro. 🥃🥃

    • stangerx says:

      Friday night canine tunes on?

      • Phindog says:

        Just made a huge life change for the family so we shall see. I want to but at this time can’t commit to anything.. I once we get out there we will have a plan.

      • stangerx says:

        Q asked and answered. Just hate it when big life events get in the way of Fest events. 🙂

  121. steveccnv says:

    One bourbon, one scotch, one beer
    No I ain’t seen my baby since the night before last
    Gotta get a drink man I’m gonna get gassed
    Gonna get high man I ain’t had enough
    Need me a triple shot of that stuff
    Gonna get drunk won’t you listen right here
    I want one bourbon, one shot and one beer
    One bourbon, one scotch, one beer

  122. ocalarob says:

    steveccnv says:
    June 1, 2021 at 3:38 pm
    What should I need to bring to the tailgate?
    bring your pool game to dave and busters

  123. Phindog says:

    I just blasted Rush Tom Saywer so loud ., The best thing to come from Canada since Toba and his wife.

  124. Marinofan13 says:

    Rockphin says:
    June 1, 2021 at 3:21 pm

    When the Dolphins selected cornerback Noah Igbinoghene with the 30th pick in the 2020 NFL Draft, it was with the idea that he would develop behind Pro Bowlers Xavien Howard and Byron Jones.

    According to Miami coaches, that development has occurred…
    Thanks for posting this, Rockphin!

    Stanger, remember the video I posted of the CB camp Iggy attended a couple weeks back, and you asked me why I was giving him such high praise? BOOM! I saw the development on that tape.

    Not asking for some kind of award, but these eyes don’t lie when it comes to DBs. Iggy is going to be very good and very shortly. He will ultimately replace either Xavian or Byron, being both are making MAJOR $$$. I foresee Byron getting dumped (traded, hopefully), and then we’ve got Iggy on a rookie contract with over $10M in cap savings (contingent on the trade details, of course).

  125. Marinofan13 says:

    manitobafinfan says:
    June 1, 2021 at 8:46 pm
    ^^ trying something different for ya ^^ 😊
    Man, that brings back memories of my Topix days back in ’06! Somebody used to address me as “13” all the time. How are ya, man?

    • manitobafinfan says:

      Doing okay , still locked down hard for the VID .. hoping it breaks soon .. I need to travel 😎

      • Marinofan13 says:

        I hope it breaks soon for ya, too. I can’t imagine being locked down for SO long. It’s time — now that the vaccine is out — to reopen, IMO.

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Yes, calling me “13” was a term of endearment from the poster. All good by me!

  126. manitobafinfan says:

    Seems they have 180 degree change in culture and work ethic in da house

    • manitobafinfan says:

      May actually have some people that CAN Coach as opposed to just having the title

      • Marinofan13 says:

        Totally agreed, and I don’t know how to react! It’s been that long since we’ve had decent coaching. I’m trusting the process now, more than ever.

  127. manitobafinfan says:

    We Are sucking at getting Vax into arms. ICUs are full ( we only have 150) and we are shipping patients out. 1st week they did one died, then shit hit the fan.

  128. manitobafinfan says:

    Socialist healthcare ain’t what it’s cracked up to be ….

    • Marinofan13 says:

      I don’t want to get political, but you are VERY correct, sir. I’ve got fam around the world, and not a one has anything good to say about socialist healthcare. I’ve heard horror stories.

  129. Marinofan13 says:

    manitobafinfan says:
    June 1, 2021 at 9:17 pm
    Thank s been working all the way through which is a blessing I guess , many others have not
    Yes, I’d consider it a blessing as well. Same here, except I took a voluntary layoff of 3 weeks last May… I was just about ready to go out of my mind by the end of those 3 weeks.

  130. manitobafinfan says:

    I put most of the blame on the system .. we are extremely short of Drs precovid .. it took 2 years of looking for a dr to see me as a patient, basically for maintenance Cholesterol , and blood sugar.. my wife’s DR agreed to see me two months ago .. and by see me , with Covid it was a phone call, pop in grab papers, go to a blood test and a call back after results were in …

    • Marinofan13 says:

      That’s ridiculousness. More and more of that kind of thing has been occurring here in the States after 0bamaCare was signed into law. We, too, have/had been experiencing a shortage of doctors… at least here in PA (I can’t speak for anybody else).

      It was somewhat rectified after President Trump struck down the individual mandate, but businesses have taken advantage of ‘free health care’ from 0bama. Our premiums and rates have gone SKY HIGH ever since… and they aren’t going back to what it was prior to 0bama.

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Hospital stays and most operations are covered by healthcare system, but the wait for getting in is insane. Especially elective stuff or non life threatening procedures .. which is why when borders are open you guys get the influx of Canadians with the cash to pay as opposed to waiting

  131. manitobafinfan says:

    Couple that with most HC workers, pull part time hours at 3-5 different facilities, and do homecare at personal residences… a lot are in shared family homes of 15 living in one house , with 4-5 all working in HC .. I wonder why our #’s are t getting better

    • Marinofan13 says:

      We’ve experienced similar trends. And being that HC here in the States is essentially a Big Biz, they aren’t paying our HC workers what they’re worth. Our nursing homes have become horrendous, basic hospitals don’t provide what was once provided a mere decade ago, the wait for a basic checkup has turned from days to months, and there is generally a lack of HC workers.

      They keep them under 40 hours so they (Big Biz) don’t have to pay their HC workers benefits. Thus, these HC workers have to work multiple jobs… just like in Canada, man. Damn shame… SMH

  132. manitobafinfan says:

    To your 3 week stir crazy comment I concur. I start getting loopy at the end of a two week vacay

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Yessir, I’ve got to stay busy. And I probably could have, even with 3 weeks off, but it was COVID weeks off. I worked on some of my music, being that was about all I could do.

  133. manitobafinfan says:

    Hopefully things lighten up so we can get our asses to the Fest .. looking forward to Football season. Team is trending in a positive direction.. should be an exciting year to be a Fins Fan

    • Marinofan13 says:

      AMEN!!! I truly hope things lighten up soon. I’m not ruling out a possible attendance to the Fest, but so many things are still in motion here in PA… to the tune of it’s most unlikely. We’ll see.

      This team of ours is looking VERY good, in my eyes. I have MAJOR hope in our Phins this year… dare I say, PLAYOFFS?!! 😀

  134. Marinofan13 says:

    Manitoba, I’m out, my friend. It was nice chatting with ya one-on-one, sir! I hope things get better for your province quickly, may the bad turn to good, and always stay safe.

    Talk with ya soon, bud!
    GO PHINS!!!
    HELL YEAH!!!

  135. Tim Knight says:

    Still my favorite Rush tune. No vocals but a super cool tune.

  136. olddolphan says:

    IT’S OFFICIAL!! – – The Carolina Hurricanes are in DEEEEP SHIT! – – They just lost tonight’s NHL Playoff game 2-1 to the Tampa Bay. They did something you JUST CAN’T DO —lose the first two games of a best of seven game series AT HOME!!

    Just over a week ago the Florida Panthers committed the same mistake and subsequently lost in six games to the defending Stanley Cup Champions. I foresee a similar fate for the Canes, who finished first in this division during the regular season.

    Should the Bolts win this series, they’ll play the winner of the Jets-Canadiens series in the semi-finals of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. This finally healthy Lightning team is, in my opinion, the team to beat in the 2021 Playoffs.

    Time to walk the greyhound and get my ugly rest. My best to all of you.

    • olddolphan says:

      PS: –HEY MANITOBA–WHERE IN HELL are all those prognosticators who predicted a Oilers-Maple Leafs finals in the North Division??

      DO CANADIAN Sportswriters like their crow rare or well done??

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s not how the final 4 works this year.

      Once the divisions wrap up their play, the four remaining teams advance to the Stanley Cup semifinals. The four teams will be re-seeded based on their regular-season point totals with the team with the most points facing the team with the fewest. The winners of the semis battle it out in the 2021 Stanley Cup Final.May 14, 2021

      • steveccnv says:

        You’ll play the Boston vs NYI winner, since the top seed will be the Col vs VGK winner

  137. Mike E. says:

    As someone who works in the healthcare field, I can tell you that plans like Obamacare hurt doctors and their practices by lowering the fees they receive for procedures they used to get paid more for. What that does is cause doctors to overbook appointments, so when you go to the doctors office and you see 20 people in the waiting room and 3 have them have appointments at the same time you do, you’ll know why. This in essence degrades the healthcare system too. Doctors are spending less time with patients and spending more time on finding ways to recoup their losses. That kind of thing is what makes smart people choose other professions. Young people are coming out of school with huge debt to begin with, they can find more lucrative professions that the government isn’t controlling. Imagine if Obamacare spread to other professions too like law, mechanical repairs etc . . . That would be the end of free enterprise and capitalism, a very sad destructive end.

    • D says:

      So this is a conspiracy theory i wouldn’t just first throw out as nonsense…..except……the dude looks certifiable lol. I mean when i listen to this it makes me remember the fictionalize role in the move 2012, that Woody Harrelson played. The out there nut job conspiracy theorist who was predicting the end of the world. Like in that movie, he might be right but not many are going to take him seriously. Now i don’t know that i think it was created on purpose to create a pandemic, but i definitely could see them fucking around with the virus in a lab and it getting out and starting one by accident and then trying very hard to cover it up.

      • D says:

        I could see them, being its China, fucking around with the virus there and not following proper protocols and regulations to keep it contained, I’m sure there is some truth to what the dude is saying I’m just not on board with the idea that it was created/tested with malicious intent.

      • steveccnv says:

        Conspiracy theory has a new meaning these days, it’s now defined as anything that doesn’t fit the agenda of MSM, despite any evidence to the contrary

  138. sb7mvp says:

    Fauci throwing that baseball will never not be funny.

    • D says:

      Yeah with a throw that bad that has to be one of the first times he has ever encountered one.

      • steveccnv says:

        If you play golf it’s easy to see what happened. He tried to throw it too hard causing his upper body to lock up, like a death grip on a golf club. The jerky motion at the time of release was the result.

        It seems to be his personality, when he’s confronted on things he’s lying about his body also locks up.

        You can see the anger all over his face, when he responds to Congress

      • pheloniusphish says:

        I thought his release point was too low because he’s short and he has weak arm….

      • pheloniusphish says:

        Can’t see over the nurses and bureaucrats.

      • steveccnv says:

        That’s besides the point Phish

    • D says:

      Maybe he was looking at its spherical shape and reminiscing on the discover of the coronavirus, and he had his intended target but wild pitched and hit everyone else lol. Zing!

  139. steveccnv says:

    Isn’t politics great, in what other profession can you fuck up so bad and still be praised by half the people

  140. steveccnv says:

    Wonder if the local beat writers are in cahoots with the Fins FO, and are putting out this bad press to light a fire under Tua’s ass.

    It’s similar to the camp he went to before Alabama, where Dilfer ripped him a new one, then Tua responded by winning the beat QB award in camp.

    Don’t really think Tua needs that motivation, but why take the chance.

    From OTA highlights Tua is ripping the ball, like he never did at Bama.

    I mean there was some concern after last season, but its a little overboard.

    The national sports writers just follow the local lead

    • D says:

      No, they just hate our team and always put their most pessimistic foot forward. Being in the Alabama fan base area, Saints Fan base area, etc im just not use to it. Maybe its similar other places but i haven’t found beat writers that shit on their local team m ore than the Dolphins ones do.

  141. steveccnv says:

    Think we’ll know on Tua the first scrimmage they do at the Rock.

    Last year Fitz was out for scrimmage and the QBs couldn’t move the ball, if Tua comes in, commands the huddle, and moves the ball he’ll be fine this year, if not…yikes

    • D says:

      I think would be too small of a sample size and too early in the process to call it like that. It probably wont alleviate the fears, but even the first scrimmage being a success i wouldn’t put stock in it either…its a scrimmage….the first one….

      • steveccnv says:

        Its the, if they don’t bite as pups theory, which I subscribe to.

        Watching the first jets game last year, the jets came after him on the 2 passes he threw, as if the game depended on it, and he got it done, and looked like he belonged.

        Saw something in Luck in a preseason game against Pitt, when they brought the house.

        Saw it in Matty Ice in his last season at BC, the first 3 and out series.

        Thought I saw it in RT in his bowl game, but was mistaken.

        Saw it in Parker, his first camp.

        On the other hand, didn’t see it in Gaskin, but he proved it wrong.

        It’s a kinesthetic kind of way at looking at something, where you can’t usually explain it, you just know.

      • steveccnv says:

        Don’t think it’s too small of a sample size, because watched him at Bama, watched him last year, so know where the improvements need to come from, like his zip in OTAs.

        Now, if he doesn’t do a better job with his reads, this early look becomes moot, but I find it hard to believe he’ll struggle with it

  142. stangerx says:

    “I’ll keep this short and sweet. Jaylen Waddle is going to be the reason Tua Tagovailoa is considered Miami’s franchise quarterback after this season.”

    — David Carr, NFL.com, explaining his pick for most impactful non-QB rookie.

    • steveccnv says:

      I believe that to an extent, Waddle will no doubt help, and will make Tua better, just being out there, but Tua has already put in a lot of work and improved more than Iggy has from year 1 to 2.

      That statement is just a precursor of things to come this year.

      Meaning the excuse he’s a franchise QB is the players around him

      • stangerx says:

        I would with pleasure enter the debate on why Tua is a franchise QB after this season.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s gonna be about a lot more than one player. Of course explosive players will help any QB, but it’s never about one player in football.

  143. steveccnv says:

    One constant with sports writers is they don’t like to admit they were wrong.

    We see it every year, when they predict a team to make the SB, and with teams they say are garbage.

    With Tua once he’s on a roll, they’re going to make every excuse against him to validate, that they were right on him, even though we’ll see the improvement. Gaslighters

    • stangerx says:

      I don’t think they have as much pride in their words as you do. Same guys who writing we were tanking for Tua were saying he doesn’t have it as an NFL QB in the offseason.

      They write what they think will get clicks.

      • steveccnv says:

        They have several things motivating them, and they use them all, 2 of which you and I mentioned.

        They will bounce around for the flavor of the month, when they don’t have a strong conviction on something, like when they jump on a train (like tank for Tua) what I’m referring to is when they make their own prediction

      • stangerx says:

        Think if Tua starts to tear it up they will proclaim him the 2nd coming of Marino. A better headline and read than team got better and Tua has progressed.

        We’ll see… but the answer might come out that you are right on some writers and me on others. Pretty sure Tua is the new god will be that train you are talking about….. until it isn’t.

  144. stangerx says:

    Think Lynn Bowden makes the active roster. Unfortunately that means don’t see any way Malcolm Perry does. Just too similar.

    Perry could land on the practice squad , but actually think would be better for him to find another team.

    • D says:

      Perry could up his chances if he really showed he could handle return duties and be a replacement for Grant in that area. They save more cutting Grant than they would Perry. I know Waddle could fill that role but im not sure how they would feel about their top WR potentially getting injured doing return duties.

      • stangerx says:

        Holland does returns as well, but if Perry shows that in camp you never know plus would be good for him wherever he is.

        And I’m guessing Grant is gone anyhow. Thinking the 6th WR will be Wilson. But then we haven’t even hit camp yet.

      • ocalarob says:

        hollands has special team skills so i wouldn’t count him out as of yet, i agree bowden makes the 53

    • steveccnv says:

      Bowden has draft/trade pedigree, so I’d bet he makes it too.

      Would be fairly easy to predict the 6 WRs, if STs didn’t have a role in it, just not sure how they’ll handle the flyers on punt team.

      3 givens, Preston, Bowden and Wilson are my 6.

      Does Hollins get a spot for his STs?

  145. ocalarob says:

    I heard Flores is very happy with the safety we drafted.

  146. Tim Knight says:

    Are some of you suggesting Holland isn’t a lock to make the team?

    • D says:

      Not sure, i know i didnt mention Holland, maybe they were talking about Hollins, not Holland. I think everyone should thing Holland is a lock but we were talking WR’s not DB’s.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I think some meant Hollins and Stanger mentioned Holland also does returns.

      • stangerx says:

        D mentioned that if Perry did returns would help his chances of making the team. Others including me mentioned that Hollands does returns too as in less chance for Perry.

      • D says:

        Well and then i think OCRob just said Holland instead of Hollins by accident and it kind made the convo look like we were talking about Holland making it if he can contribute on ST’s when we were talking Hollins lol. We need players with more unique names.

  147. Marinofan13 says:

    • D says:

      This is the first i noticed we got Duke Riley on the team. He isnt as good as Deion Jones was. I was really big on Jones and Riley was his replacement at LSU and was a solid player. I think Piggy really liked Riley. I though he would be a good pickup as well, i just knew he was no Deion Jones. He could play the hybrid S/LB role which we do seem to want to have. Hope he does really well for us.

  148. Marinofan13 says:

    • stangerx says:

      After last year, can’t complain about #9.
      9. Miami Dolphins

      The Dolphins are suddenly loaded with speed and playmakers after adding Will Fuller V in free agency and drafting Jaylen Waddle with the sixth overall pick. Fuller is coming off a career-high 86.2 overall grade, and as one of the best deep threats in the NFL, he’s consistently made his offenses better. Waddle brings similar potential after averaging 18.9 yards per reception in college while averaging a gaudy 9.8 yards after the catch per reception.

      The Fuller/Waddle duo will put defenses in a bind and open things up for DeVante Parker, who adds the size and catch-point skills the speedsters lack. Parker put up the seventh-highest contested-catch percentage in the league over the last two years at 53.1%. The Dolphins also have two other playmakers defenses must account for in Jakeem Grant and Lynn Bowden Jr. Both players are dangerous with the ball in their hands in the short game.

      We’ve seen Mike Gesicki emerge as a receiving weapon at tight end since late in 2019, and he had the No. 7 receiving grade among his peers during the regular season last year at 79.4. The backup snaps will be a battle between Durham Smythe, Adam Shaheen and third-rounder Hunter Long, who was one of the better all-around tight ends in the draft.

      Overall, the Dolphins are much improved at receiver, and they go from one of the weaker groups to playmakers to one of the fastest and most dangerous.

  149. D says:

    Im not sure i would want Holland returning kicks either, for the same reason i wouldn’t want Waddle doing it. We have enough players that could contribute to that spot at about the same level with the same potential and not have to risk a young, potentially franchise talent.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m one of those guys who doesn’t worry about top players returning kicks and punts. Not sure how our coaches view that though.

      • D says:

        I look at it as a value perspective. I mean, yes Waddle can return kicks, he is pretty good at it, but does it outvalue him being on the field as our top target WR? I don’t see it, if you look at what some of the other guys are capable of doing returns, they bring a similar value as a returner and the loss of them as a offensive weapon doesn’t hurt us as bad as Waddle. The fact that i think Holland would be unlikely to be a start right off DB, probably more of a platoon, i look at it as not as big a loss for us as far as missing a big part of our D, but more so potential to stunt his development like MicMillan on his ST ankle snap. Not saying as a general rule i wouldn’t have a top pick in ST’s but i would weight it out like i just described and to me i see Holland and Waddle as big pieces of our future and ones we cant really afford to lose out on just for the benefit they might bring on ST’s. Risk outweighs the benefit for me i guess is the simplest way to say it.

      • steveccnv says:

        I’d use Waddle sparingly, the way the Panthers used Steve Smith on punt returns, when the game was on the line or they needed a spark

  150. Marinofan13 says:

    I just went through all of PFF’s 2021 position rankings (top-32 players per unit). Here are the results on Defense…

    DI: 0 of our players were worthy
    EDGE: 0 of our players were worthy
    LB: 1 player- BENARDRICK MCKINNEY, #20 (listed as a Texan, not as a Dolphin)
    Slot CB: 0 of our players were worthy
    CB: 2 players- XAVIEN HOWARD, #4; BYRON JONES, #14
    S: 0 of our players were worthy
    Total: only 3 of our Defensive players are worthy of being top-32 at their position in the league: what a JOKE.

    PFF has really fallen off over the last several years.

    • steveccnv says:

      It’s a beauty contest, means nothing.

      Part of the reason we don’t get any respect is, because Flores’ scheme makes it easier for players to succeed.

      Anyone think X gets 10 picks last year playing on any of our other Ds the last 30 years?

      Watching D highlights of 2020, there’s another duck thrown up where’s X

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Wilkins, Davis, Baker and Ogbah are at least top 32 those are 4 straight up misses right there.

  151. stangerx says:

    “Brings another weapon to the team. Another guy who can help us. He’s a quick learner. He listens to what we have to say. You coach him up and he listens to you.”

    — DeVante Parker on Waddle

  152. stangerx says:

    Gonna miss Beasley. He was one of our best beat guys , but guess that is why he got the national gig.
    Pro Football Network LLC (PFN) has announced that Adam Beasley, a Miami Dolphins beat reporter for the Miami Herald since 2012, has joined the company as its National NFL Insider and Analyst.

    “I couldn’t be more excited — and grateful — to join Pro Football Network,” said Beasley. “A national gig has long been a dream, and I’m going to work my butt off every day to provide fun, unique content to our growing audience.”

  153. Tim Knight says:

    I’d rather the team do the talking than worrying about what a bunch of geeks on a computer say about who’s ranked where.

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s my point with it being a beauty contest

    • Tim Knight says:

      The only stats I rely on from PFF are the ones that are factual. Not opinions on what plays players failed on and what their rankings are based on opinion. Lots of football plays break down and everything changes on the play. You don’t always know who was supposed to do what that didn’t, along with maybe another mistake or two that messed everything up. Those were mental mistakes putting players on the wrong guys. There is no way for PFF to know those circumstances and there are lots of plays like that with all 32 teams during a season. Football is rarely perfect. Too many intangibles. Guys playing hurt too.

      The only rankings that mean anything is in the W/L column. If you’re winning a lot of games, you’re probably doing a lot of good things. 🙂

  154. stangerx says:

    The numbers came out on McCain’s new deal. Whole lot less than we had him on the books for.
    “Bobby McCain signed a 1 year, $1,475,000 contract with the Washington Football Team, including a $225,000 signing bonus, $225,000 guaranteed.”

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s how the deals go after early FA, no leverage

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Like you and I had discussed, McCain was grossly overpaid here in Miami. The next guy to go will likely be Byron Jones… don’t know when, but he’s eating BIG cap for us.

      • Marinofan13 says:

        And LOL, I’m not going to let you get away regarding my assessment of Iggy. 😉

      • steveccnv says:

        Have the same assessment of Iggy as you, so now reread what I said about Tua, that’s how much better I see him being this year

      • stangerx says:

        I’m not sure what there is to get away from regarding your take on Iggy. You said he looked better from a vid and I asked why.

    • Tim Knight says:

      McCain had a solid 6 year NFL career for the Dolphins as a 2015 5th round pick. He’s a pro DB that can help any secondary. We moved on with younger talent – Iggy, Br. Jones and Holland. We also added some new vets in Coleman and McCourty. That’s how the NFL works. I wish good ole Bobby McCain well.

  155. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, X has 22 INTs in 56 games over 5 seasons. That’s a lot, in fact he’s 2nd behind only Marcus Peters (23) over the last 5 seasons – with X starting as a rookie. Peters also played in 75 games during that span. X is the top ballhawk in the league right now regardless of coach and system. He’s a ballhawk! Nobody else on the team is doing it at that rate. Nobody else in the league has.

    • steveccnv says:

      Not trying to take anything away from X, just saying he’s got more int ops under Flores.

      How many times during the last 20 years did we see the cheats players get those scheme ints, where the QB was fooled and threw an ill advised pass?

  156. steveccnv says:

    Asante Samuel benefitted from the scheme as well, then traded to Philly and was average at best

  157. steveccnv says:

    Even Byron no int Jones had a couple of picks last year, and a 3rd ripped out of his hands

  158. Marinofan13 says:

    stangerx says:
    June 2, 2021 at 9:18 pm
    I’m not sure what there is to get away from regarding your take on Iggy. You said he looked better from a vid and I asked why.
    Seems all the beat writers, coaches, and others agree with my assessment of 2 weeks ago, that’s all… and after the fact.

    Suppose I’m surprised you questioned me, that’s all. No harm, no foul. We good!

    • Marinofan13 says:

      Sorry, I phrased that wrongly… you didn’t “question” me. You asked in earnest why I felt the way I felt about Iggy. I told ya why… and I’m happy that it seems my take was correct. Time shall reveal…

      • stangerx says:

        I was curious. Had watched the same tape and wanted to know what you saw. Well established I’m not a combine/pro day evaluator. Thought might learn something. Clearly others share your view…. all the more reason to have asked.

  159. sb7mvp says:

    Just for the record, Asante Samuel had 22 INTs in 5 years in NE and 23 INTs in 4 years in Philly. His best year in NE was 10 INTS, his best year in Philly was 9 (two years removed from NE).
    Also, the year that Howard *only* got 7 interceptions he played in 12 games. He played in 5 games the year after that.
    If the point of the argument was to say that good coaches make teams and players better, we already knew that. It’s like saying the only reason we won more games last year than the previous year was because we consistently scored more points than our opponents.

  160. stangerx says:

    Would suck if Jones goes to the Pats or Niners, but pretty clear he will go somewhere.
    Via SportsLine oddsmakers: Julio Jones’ next team

    Titans +200
    Patriots +300
    Seahawks +400
    49ers +500
    Raiders +600
    Eagles +700
    Ravens +900
    Packers +1000
    Colts +1000
    Chargers +1200
    Washington +1300
    Dolphins +1400

  161. stangerx says:

    Lot of your guys already knew this, but new to me — Eric Rowe is our TE cover specialist. Couldn’t see Bobby McCain doing that. Might explain who stayed and who didn’t.

    • D says:

      Yeah he was brought here and moved to Safety with that intention.

    • D says:

      Bobby just hit the point of value didn’t meet production. He was an alright S and a pretty good NCB, but wasn’t lights out even at his best. Good isn’t always Good enough.

      • stangerx says:

        And then you get the job specifics. Lot more guys can give FS a shot than can cover TEs. Like typewriter repair versus lithium battery production specialist.

  162. Marinofan13 says:

    stangerx says:
    June 3, 2021 at 1:50 pm
    I was curious. Had watched the same tape and wanted to know what you saw. Well established I’m not a combine/pro day evaluator. Thought might learn something. Clearly others share your view…. all the more reason to have asked.
    Thank you, Stanger. I appreciate it!

  163. Marinofan13 says:

    Slow news day today.

  164. stangerx says:

    “I know that I can still play the game, I know I can help a team. But it’s also got to be the right situation that I feel that I can be on a team that could go to the playoffs and get a chance to probably go to the Super Bowl. I know that I can still play the game of football, but I also want to be in the right situation on the right team.”

    — Frank Gore, who at 38 really wants to pick his spot.

  165. Tim Knight says:

    I wonder what Tua is doing today? LOL

  166. Marinofan13 says:

    Slow blog day today, as well!

  167. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!

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