Jaelan Phillips – Difference maker?

The Dolphins went offense first in the 2021 NFL Draft, selecting Alabama WR Jaylen Waddle with the 6th pick. Is it possible that the next pick, at #18 was even more important to the team’s success in 2021? I believe it is. I think Phillips changes this defense, legitimizes this defense. This defense was close to being elite last season, I think Phillips can put us over the top. We need a true pass rushing threat to allow Emmanuel Ogbah to grow from his excellent 2020 campaign. Shaq Lawson wasn’t enough, and I’ll illustrate why.

Emmanuel Ogbah was tearing it up, he had 8 sacks in the first 9 games last season. Then they decided to take Ogbah out of the picture by double teaming him and w/o any threat from the other side, it lasted the rest of the season with Ogbah managing only 1 sack in the final 7 games, after accumulating 8 in the first 9. Let me be clear, it’s not about Ogbah, it’s about having multiple threats that need to be accounted for by the opposing offense. If Phillips makes an early impact then it will give everyone a chance because it’s a pick your poison type of situation. If they double Ogbah, Phillips will make them pay, and vice versa. Again, this affects everyone though, because this will allow everyone to succeed, including AVG, Baker, McKinney, Wilkins, Davis etc.

So, the question is, will Jaelan Phillips be the difference maker? He had a very incomplete college career due to injuries. Both ankles, and a couple of concussions ruined his Freshman and Sophomore seasons and he actually skipped a year (2019) and transferred from UCLA to Miami in 2020. He had a very nice season for the Hurricanes but that’s the bulk of his college career, one nice season. What seems to be the cumulative scouting report is he’s a gifted defensive player that can play either 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB and his talent and size would allow him to do either well. He has a legitimate pass rush repertoire, and his combination of length, power and speed make him difficult to contain. It seems the biggest concerns are his medicals (concussions). There are also mentions that he needs to improve his core strength and bulk, things they also said about Jason Taylor. He certainly has an incomplete resume, but the talent is clearly there, he was the #1 rated recruit at DE in the country by 247 Sports, who basically set the table for college recruiting. The ankle injuries themselves aren’t a concern and the kid has played through pain. The concussions are the demon that could quickly ruin a player as we saw when we picked up TE Jordan Cameron from the Cleveland Browns. To be fair, there were at least 4 or 5 documented concussions for Cameron and from what I’ve seen, just 2 for Phillips. The Dolphins rolled the dice, and I like the action. I think Phillips is going to be huge for us, can’t wait to see him in our defense!

GO DOLPHINS!!!

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  1. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    pheloniusphish says:
    July 16, 2021 at 2:54 pm (Edit)
    Oh, I totally agree with that. Don’t really want a bunch of yahoos from either side mucking about the polling site. But that horse is out of the barn and ain’t coming back. No one trusts the system anymore, thanks to our political elites. Just don’t see it as a way to suppress the vote.

    **

    But this is why the Texas law is problematic and a summary or reading of the law doesnt do it justice. You have to look at the practical implications too.

    The law makes it harder to remove them or restrict them

    and there are just going to be a lot of assholes who take advantage of that

    When you talk about election integrity, people with an interest in the outcome cannot be viewed as saviors

    They say they are trying to catch fraud but they opened to door to a lot of voter day bickering

    And yes – I think that is suppressing the vote

  2. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The Dolphins could also let X hold out and lose money until he can’t handle it anymore. They don’t have to do anything with him. Next man up and when he’s ready to come back take it from there.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      That’s what the Brian Miller article I posted above was saying, X really has no leverage

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      It’s been apparent from the beginning that X has never had the leverage in this situation. All he can do is tie up his own money. The question has always been how do the Dolphins handle this. Do they play hardball, move him, or acquiesce.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      That’s what I would do if I were the team

      I wouldn’t be in any hurry to trade him directly

      Sometimes a disgruntled player can create a bigger problem though

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        At this stage of the offseason the players, as Jones said, think of it as as his bitness and don’t get involved, during the season could be a different story

  3. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Brian Miller on fire today, he thinks the Ford signing could mean a trade is coming, since we have too many WRs and an open roster spot, but not for X

  4. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Not that you guys thought I died or anything, but if anyone did, I’m back. Was on vacay, such a great week with good friends. New article should be out Sunday. Hope all is well with everyone, nice to be home.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Welcome back, let’s throw a party or just a 🍹 or 🍺

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Where’d you go?

      News upstream is that Chef Warren is doing the tailgate again. You probably assumed but wasn’t for sure.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        We go to the Catskills every summer. Big group, close to 80 people. Been doing that trip for 18 years, the whole family goes and we all love it. True family vacation

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Big group, Big family. Really cool. Assume there is some Dirty Dancing involved. 🙂

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Pretty much a guarantee. Exactly that type of vacation experience

  5. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Have to assume if your team is below 50% vax that your team just screwed up.
    ———————————–
    “Pittsburgh, Miami, Carolina and Denver have the highest vaccination rates and are among 10 teams that have achieved at least 85%. Washington and Indianapolis have the two lowest COVID-19 vaccination rates (below 50%).”

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      I’m just hoping the rest of the AFC east (especially Buff) doesn’t meet the threshold. Competitive advantage for us.

  6. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Mike, on your vacation you all dirty dance? LOL

  7. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Of course! They will throw you out if you don’t. 🙃

  8. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Welcome back, Mike!

  9. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Gonna get the paper, get the paper

  10. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Thanks Kong!

  11. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Sounds like Toba should be good to go for the Fest.
    ———————-
    “67 percent of the people who live in the Canadian province of Manitoba have already gotten a shot, compared with just 44 percent of the people who live right across the border in North Dakota.”

  12. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The only way I see us trading Jakeem Grant is if Waddle does the returns. I have no problem with that though I know many of you always fear injuries. These days punt returns are the main returns because most kickoffs are touchbacks. Last year we had a total of 32 PR and 9 FC. That’s 2.6 touches per game. So it’s not a big deal and it surely doesn’t tire anyone out. LOL

    You get the ball into the hands of your playmakers as often as you can.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      You also have Iggy and Malcolm Perry for returns. Grant’s hands scare the heck out of me, he bobbles a fair amount of returns

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        But are Iggy and Perry any good at it? They have a very small body of work. Iggy 4 KRs and Perry just one PR.

        Waddle is dangerous anytime he has the ball in his hands.

        As for Grant bobbling punts, that was most mostly early on in his career. He got much better at it. But I guess anytime it does happen that stigma will always be there.

        But the main part of my post was saying the only way we move on from Grant is if Waddle takes over that role. We don’t really know if anyone else is good enough. Holland has return ability too so we’ll see how it plays out in camp.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I didn’t mean that Iggy and Perry should be the returners, I’m hoping Waddle is our primary returner but we have Iggy and Perry as well, which makes Grant a possible cut or trade candidate

  13. Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

    So if you you have a driver’s license then then that’s good enough ID for you to vote ? Well in the piece of shit state I just left they are giving illegals driver’s licenses and other blue states are trying to do the same . Hmm, I wonder why ? They say it’s for insurance purposes but I think they’ve planned this for a while. Corruption sucks and politicians blow goats. Just effin use the laws already in place and protect our constitution. 🐕🥃🥃👍

  14. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Just scrolled through some 100+ posts since I was on yesterday, most on voter laws. Look… if you need a license to drive, to fly, to go fishing, to go kayaking, to go camping, to go to the library, etc, etc… WTF is wrong with the need for voter ID to secure the integrity of our elections?

    And the best Dem/socialists/Marxist can come up with is that minorities are too stupid to be able to get voter IDs or to use the internet?

    CASE CLOSED! Not sure there’s anything more to discuss! And the opposition to mere nuances of recently proposed voting bills is so frivolous, truly.

    #FuckHR1

  15. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I’ve yet to hear any of our friends on the left side of the aisle explain how this country went so far left in such a relatively short period of time. Many academics say that JFK back in the day was to the far-right of Trump today.

    And yes, I’m tired of the term “far-right” being equated to Nazism, the KKK, and racism in general. The Democrat party OWNS all of the above. Let’s not be revisionist about our history, folks. And the closer the Dems come to socialism/Marxism/communism, the more they try to pin the tail (their own sins) on the elephant… not their own donkey.

    They are liars, thieves, and villainous conquerers with zero regard to our Constitution.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      JFK and Reagan were very similar politicly. That time is long gone with both parties.

      That said comparing the conservative Democrats of mostly the south many years ago as the racists etc. to the Democrats of today is a problem. The Democratic party changed during the Civil Rights movement and became the party of that fight while the detractors went to the Republican party. That doesn’t mean they were all racists, they were not all on board with the policies of the new Democrats. But the one thing people who sympathize with Democrats turn a blind eye to, is that a far left agenda hijacked their party as well. That’s a fact but anyone who points it out in a public setting is demonized.

      This two party system does not work today. Too many people are indoctrinated by the party brand and can’t fathom voting independently at times for the other side. That’s where we are today. It obvious!

  16. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    When I go to vote, my name is already in the system as a citizen because I registered. My name is in the book, I sign my name again and vote. I mean are we really this dumbed down these days that we make it so complicated?

    Anyone here have a tough time voting?

    I don’t want to hear that it’s difficult for black and brown people to vote because that in itself is basically saying they’re too fucking stupid to do it like the rest of us. You want to talk about racism, there you have it. And the really fucked up thing is that people of same skin color and race are the ones who consider them too fucking stupid to do it.

    It’s 2021 folks, WTF are we doing to ourselves?

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      I have a difficult time understanding the ‘hard time voting’ angle myself, because I’ve never had an issue getting my vote in. I’ve never had a long line, I don’t have heath problems, or need a ride, etc. I go to the poll, I vote. It takes about 20 minutes, every time.

      The whole we should need an ID thing, I mean all states but Vermont already require a form of ID. The issue isn’t ‘requiring ID’. The issue is in the nuance of how to enforce it and what measures can be taken to get people’s votes in, and how secure those measures are. That is where politics start to complicate things. It’s not like this is a new issue. Parties have been playing games with votes since our inception.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Yes agreed

        As a matter of fact the issue of whether ID is required or not is pretty much settled, the difference in most of the new states laws on how much ID is really about mail in voting, and these states asking for additional ID

        I don’t know why people keep bringing it up

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Before I was even of age to vote, I don’t remember hearing that voting was difficult by my elders. They voted, most didn’t say who they voted for and everyone accepted the results. It wasn’t until Bush and Gore ran against each other that this all started. The popular vote vs. the electoral college system we’ve been using for 200+ years and the fucking hanging chads in Florida. We’re supposed to evolve not devolve. Something was in play here since then. Now it’s 2021 and we’re continuing to embarrass ourselves. SMH

  17. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I actually argued hours today about the texas voting law

    And I didn’t mention racism once
    And I didn’t mention whether or not it’s okay to require ID

    And you guys are still fixated on those things, even though they weren’t mentioned once

    It’s pointless, you guys what to argue what you think the other side is arguing, rather than what they really are arguing

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      What comes up tends to match up with what is in the news and on social media even if never mentioned for months before. Guess that shouldn’t be a shocker.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Or it’s what the news channels people are watching are telling them what the the law is

        There’s very little about ID in the Texas (or the GA) law about showing ID outside of what is required to receive mail in ballots

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Why do you think so many people are talking about a voter ID? They didn’t come up with that one on their own.

    • Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

      The point was about showing proof of ID to cast a vote as an American citizen registered to vote. Bringing race into the discussion is delusional.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        You have to at a minimum verify your Identity when you register to vote in every state

        36 of 50 states require ID in person when you vote in Person

        None of those things are on the table in the recent set of controversies

        It’s just not what the subject of the controversy is but you guys keep a ring like it is

      • Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

        You guy’s? That’s kinda the problem my porcine friend.

  18. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Why do I need 6 points of ID to prove I’m me to renew a drivers license, but others who can’t provide that can get around it? The reason I ask is because illegals can get a drivers license but never provide 6 points, but as a natural born citizen I have to.

    The only solution I can come up with is say fuck it, none of us have to prove anything, as long as we’re on American soil we’re all Americans. Yeah that’s the ticket!

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Man is NJ DMV tough. Every time I move states just bring my old license and get the new one. Always bring my passport too, but most times don’t need it.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Your license and passport might be good enough. They both carry big points. My passport was expired so I brought my old torn birth certificate and SS card along with mail with my address, my old license and credit cards. It’s me already!!! LOL

  19. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    LOL, Tim, I love that ‘hanging chads’ are now a part of the common vernacular thanks to that goofball Gore.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      He’s activating his robot laser eye to determine whether that chad is hanging to the left or the right 😂😂😂😂

  20. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    July 16, 2021 at 7:53 pm
    I actually argued hours today about the texas voting law

    And I didn’t mention racism once…
    ————-
    And for that, I’m proud, man! I concur with what you stated 100%. You aren’t the problem with what you’re saying… it’s the so-called ‘leadership’ of the Dem party that has made it about race. I mean, straight out of Biden’s mouth for the entire world to hear.

    I’m not even debating YOU, sir… I’m debating what the Dem party is saying PUBLICLY.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Sorry, I don’t concur with what you stated 100%, but you have more merit than what the Dem party is presenting publicly.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Well #1 I’m not a democrat
      I’m a lifelong independent

      All with you would never know in this blog

      But number two, I completely disagree with the need to for Democrats to always jump to racism on these issues

      I think there is unquestionably a disparate impact but you really have to walk people through why that occurs rather than calling something racist

      But putting that way something is discussed aside, that’s just semantics, that doesn’t address the content of the laws we are discussing – and the content is very problematic no matter who explains it or how it is explained

  21. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I’m moving on to music now…

    Classic song, classic sample from Michael McDonald…

  22. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    A few years ago
    A few states got caught failing to remove people that should not have been registered from voting registrations

    Basically the states didn’t remove people who died from registration rolls

    And people that were dead were still registered the vote

    Keep in mind, in everything I read, even from right wing sources, there was no proof that no one actually used that registration to vote for dead people

    But the none the less, that’s a complete failure by those states. Even if people
    Didn’t take advantage of it, the possibility that they could have is a problem by itself

    It’s not fraud. It’s just laziness. People who were registered before they died, died after that and then weren’t removed

    There is federal law that requires states to purge their registrations

    So it’s already illegal (without any pushback from either the right or the left)

    But the vehicle to fix that is to require states to regularly purge their voting registrations or even verify them. It’s not always easy to know who has died when you have a massive population but there are reasonable restrictions like requiring people to register again every couple of years that Fix that problem

    Doing things like limiting hours that polls stay open, doesn’t address that

    The vast majority of these new voting laws don’t do anything to address issues like that

    And when they do that’s not the part that’s controversial

    I think you guys are missing the post entirely

    I don’t speak for any party, but I can tell
    You I don’t think There’s anything wrong with cleaning things like that up

    Or prosecuting actual other voter fraud to the fullest extent

    But when pass these sort of sweeping regulations you prevent a lot of legal voting too

    If you are going to address a problem, there are means to directly address a problem

    And voting is a right not a privilege – so no matter what you do to stop illegal voting, you can never prohibit or obstruct legal voting

  23. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I was about to disagree with Tim about license renewal and then I looked up NJs requirements

    Holy shit

    https://mymvc.state.nj.us/license-renewal/

  24. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Simple question for the blog. What should be the requirements to not only be in this country but to also vote?

  25. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Go to camp X

  26. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Top-20 song in my all-time favs… I LOVE THIS ONE!!!

  27. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Tim,

    I think a verified identity and citizenship on the voter registry, and I should be able to mail my ballot in to be verified against the registry.

    I shouldn’t have to have an experience like going to the DMV to vote. (As I said above, I’ve never had that experience, but I’ve seen that people do which is wrong.)

    More effort should be put into maintaining an accurate registry. I think everyone who wants to vote should be required to be registered well prior to when voting starts (no election day registration), and you have to verify who you are (that means identity and citizenship).

    Then I think voting should be over multiple days, maybe up to a week. Everyone will have plenty of time to either get to the polls or get their ballot mailed in without a DMV experience. Voting tabulation is then compared to the pre-existing registry. If you aren’t on the registry, your vote isn’t counted.

    It puts the emphasis on the voter to get registered, and on the state to maintain updated records, then makes the actual voting process a lot easier.

    Its easy for me to say, probably hard to implement with all sorts of issues I haven’t thought of.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      Since the infamous Chad days Florida voting is now among the most efficient voting states. We have two weeks of early in person voting, optional absentee voting and Election Day voting. All require ID. Florida is getting called within a couple of hours of the polls closing nowadays.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        That really seems like the way it should be. This one day thing is so anachronistic. We’re a country of over 330 million, lol.

        So your saying last November, people were able to cast their votes 2 weeks prior to election day?

      • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

        Yes on the weekend too. I voted on the Saturday about 10 days before Election Day.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Brilliant. I think all the states should follow that model.

    • Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

      I used to go to the beach on the 4th of July to celebrate the anniversary of our country watching great fireworks displays , but I didn’t have multiple days to do it. Why should we need multiple days to vote ? Maybe we should extend Christmas 8 days.🐕

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        LOL, do you have to wait in line for hours on christmas day to celebrate? Would you compare celebrating Christmas to going to the DMV?

        Why do we have to hold onto an antiquated process? We’re a lot larger than we were when we started doing this. There is nothing wrong with making the process easier. It’s an election, not a rite of passage.

      • Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

        It’s the right of an American citizen and not a right of passage.That’s the point

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Doggy, what the heck does that have to do with one day versus a few days to get the votes in?

      • Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

        Well I guess if a few days were the standard in every state I’m kinda ok with it as long as a few days are across the board in every state my monkey friend .

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Cheers, Doggy 🍻

        Half of what I wrote in the original post was off the cuff anyway, lol. I’m not attached to it, I’m just answering to that view as best I can.

        From what Son posted, IMO it sounds like Florida has a great process in place.

  28. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Today’s theme

  29. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    EASY top-10 in my book of all-time…

  30. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Does anybody remember this one?

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      I don’t think I’ve heard that before. Michael has such a great voice he had Jagger singing way up there they sound pretty good together.

  31. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Tim Knight says:
    July 16, 2021 at 8:54 pm (Edit)
    To travel here or reside here. Of course you have to be a citizen to vote. If you’re undocumented, do you think that’s a good security thing?

    ***
    To travel here I don’t like the idea of a lot of,restrictions. It’s just not great for the economy to do that

    To live here I think you need legal residency, I would like to see residency for a period of years (like 3-5) have potential to lead to legal citizenship if some one applies for it, if not I think they have to continue to renew visas for residency. Things like work history should be part of that application process and that would also generate tax revenue and weed out people who aren’t working or exploiting our system

    That’s kind of close to what we have now

    Where I differ is what it takes to gain legal residency which I think should be broader than what we currently have. What we currently have only permits the vast majority of the worlds population to claims asylum to gain residency, and asylum is very limited whereas I would like that to be wide open bc I think that’s good for our country

    In terms of voting, I’ll just repeat what son said

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      All I care about is verified documentation. Not a fake ID like kids have using to get into bars for decades. LOL

  32. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I agree voting should not be one day within a 12 hour window or whatever. Many of us experienced that in 2020. I voted 2 weeks prior to election day. I actually filled it out, sealed it, drove to the ballot box, dropped it in and went back home. It was the worst 30 minutes of my life. Oops that’s not accurate, I also picked up Wendy’s on the way home. So maybe 37 minutes. LOL

  33. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    🐷, 🇺🇸❤️🇨🇺💪🙏

  34. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    If one is a legit citizen, they have a bank account. In order to open a bank account, one needs a proper ID. Believe me, banks and accountants don’t mess around unless proper ID is involved.

    I fail to understand the problem with proper ID to vote. It’s really not that difficult.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      Because rural folks don’t have Kinkos near them. That’s what I heard em say.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      Nope. Lots of immigrants do not open bank accounts. They literally put money under their mattress. Especially the Asian community’s.

  35. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I challenged you about your take on “basic” and you couldn’t answer it. Be real man. There’s nothing basic about it and I don’t need (no one needs) goons walking around “free” elections. WTF?

    I thought and expect you to be better than that. Perhaps you’re not. I’m ok with that, too.

    Don’t fucking twist my words dude. If it takes 25 points from pp to justify your point, it’s 25 excuses to change TX election laws. Have at it.

    Have I ever mentioned I’m a KISS philosophy advocate?!

    You want to edewcate me? Make it stoopid simple axross the bord.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      To D.

      Too stewpid to answure properly.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      They aren’t goons all I ever see are old retirees. When they lick they’re fingers going through the roll to find you OMG screaming to myself, JUST LET ME FIND IT
      Then comes the ,” you’re not doing it right” talk as I yank my ballot from her hand

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        You don’t need to watch me….in fact, you probably should not.

        I have never been to polling place where anyone trolled anyone. This is trolling!

        You feel better big brother is watching you? I don’t!

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      27. I can’t even read! Lol.

  36. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I will back down. It’s Friday, and I thought we reached tunes night. Whatever.

    • Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

      You good my friend ? I’ve met you personally and think you are an even keeled individual that gets along with most people. You seem to have a little angst inside you tonight. Hope you can enjoy tonight and the rest of your weekend.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Thanks for checking in, BBM. Rhino, his family, me and Mrs. K. and you for dinnet and a game in Houston. Can’t remember the year.

        I remember it as a good time. We went to an Indian restaurant….lol. You seemed unsure.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Sorry, Phindog. Thank you for the sentiment. We have met and our wives have met. Not sure how BBM got in there, but we have met him, too. Good times with both of you.

  37. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    No Quarter

  38. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Look I’m not a highly edjimacated fucker like all you white coller gods!

    Butt I figer’d out how to vote!

    Just figger it out!

    If you can find porn on your phone you you can vote!

  39. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Son and Tim I’m laughing at above bc Texas actually did have drive thru voting and it is now banned by that new law (if it becomes law)

    https://harrisvotes.com/drivethruvoting

    I don’t know if that’s a controversial issue

    I just think it’s funnier that truth if often stranger than fiction

  40. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Welcome back Mikey
    I’m sure you watched Alonzo

  41. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Oh shit! that’s 3

    Sorry Tim

  42. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Ya see we all bust each other balls here and laugh, then have to deal with real hate and nonsense.

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      This is where you can be the cartoon version of yourself.
      At least we can be thankful it’s civil most often not to mention the giant posts but I digress, if it was a bloodbath all the time no one would be here. We’re close and then it’s all Dolphins like in two weeks.

    • Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

      What? I was serious! 😉

    • Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

      I don’t believe anyone hates anyone on this blog.

  43. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Bunch of savages in this town

  44. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    I’m still holding on to Coach specifically calling Howard’s situation “unique”. That means something and we will soon find out what. I think he stays.

  45. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I object to this. What kind of cunt can’t survive 17 days in the wilderness?

  46. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Crash Jenson, posted a video of Marino highlights from the 84 win over Washington, I think that was opening day maybe, anyway 5 TD like 400 yds beautiful.
    Duper had 2
    Clayton had 1
    Crash had 2

  47. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Every hot chick in this video is a grandma now, but there’s a bunch of hotties in this.

  48. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    I watched A Football Life – Dan Marino yesterday. Awesome.

  49. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:
  50. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Wyoming, My wife sings that Tanya song at karaoke from time to time. Though we haven’t been anywhere for karaoke since we went to Key West 3 years ago.

  51. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    This is for Toba. Not because of the song but just because he is an independent artist from Canada.

  52. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    Tim, if you don’t have Hulu get it. Like 5.99 a month. You’ll love this new Paul McCartney show that came out today it’s him and Rick Ruben just talking about how the Beatles came about. They’re in a studio playing stuff back, really cool

  53. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Beatles suck. Always have.

  54. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:
  55. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:
  56. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Only people who like the Beatles are hairy old white guys.

  57. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Good lord, the Padres beat the Nationals 24-8 today.
    That’s 4 TDs, a 2 pt conversion, and a FG, lol.

  58. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Jaysus I should be in a dive starting a brawl tonight.

  59. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Krishna says:
    July 17, 2021 at 12:15 am
    Thanks for checking in, BBM. Rhino, his family, me and Mrs. K. and you for dinnet and a game in Houston. Can’t remember the year.

    I remember it as a good time. We went to an Indian restaurant….lol. You seemed unsure.
    ————————————————
    Not sure what brought this up???

    I remember this very well. It was a long drive from P’cola, we got beat up by the Texans and my son and I had Texan fans fucking with us the whole game slinging their towels around and hitting me on purpose in the back of my head. I snatched the dudes towel and threw it down about 15 rows. Dude tried to “puff up” on me but some good Texans fans told the dude to chill or leave and apologized to us for his behavior.

    Despite all that, meeting you, Mrs. K and the Rhino gang made it all worth while. That Indian restaurant was amazing and are all of you! I thank you all again for a great memory!

  60. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Phindog says:
    July 17, 2021 at 12:05 am
    Do your thing man.. Always make sure your punching down that means you have advantage
    __________________________________________

    I disagree, punching up gives you an advantage, you are able to use the ground forces and body weight for a crushing blow.

    see mike tyson

    • ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

      just like golf, at the top of your backswing you lower your arms and squat to square hips, this not only gives you rotational force but when you post up on your left side it gives you uplift force as well. using the ground and your body weight for great impact.

    • Phindog's avatar Phindog says:

      Orob,
      You have met me, I’m only 5’5” so if I’m punching down that means the other guy is already on the ground 😆

  61. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    WR Ted Ginn announces retirement after 14 NFL seasons.

    He was a first round bust but came into his own and became a serviceable WR for a number of years.

  62. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Looks like another Covid surge is starting.
    One talking head Doc saw said it is now the “Pandemic of the Unvaccinated”

    Every person hospitalized for Covid in LA County is unvaccinated.
    (LA County was ten mill people.)
    99+% of the American Covid deaths in 2021 were unvaccinated.

    Delta variant is tough. You probably saw what it did to India. We’re lucky so many people did get the vax before it hit.

    • pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

      How many people is that?

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        The deaths are running like 250 a day but will increase cause the number infected is up dramatically. Up in every state and in some doubled or more over the last two weeks.

        Like 200k have died since the start of the year.

        Not sure what the LA hospitalization numbers are, but they’ve been hit amongst the worst. Just put indoor mask mandates back in.

        But like 60% of adults are vaccinated. So could be much worse.

  63. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Just booked my flights for the fest. Now the courts just have to cooperate

  64. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Two are asymptomatic and one only has mild symptoms. What is great about the vax. Even if you get it you don’t end up in the hospital or a casket.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I was under the impression that the vax = immunity from the virus. And why were these nitwits not wearing masks on a plane, as mandated? What’s more, why did they run away from Texas, to begin with?

        Not a good look for the vax, not a good look for following rules, and certainly not a good look for the Dems in general.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        If you can still get it (COVID, post-vax), then you can still spread it. This is not as was advertised, and now it smells even fishier.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        You have to look into the science more. You can absolutely get Covid post-vax. The Vaccines are 94-95% effective against the original strain and less so against ones like Delta.

        And yes you can spread it if you do, but you have a lower viral load and are less likely to do so. What you don’t do is end up i the hospital. The vax makes it less severe.

        So you look at this and say looks bad for the vax and I think exactly what is expected.

        And yes they should have been wearing masks. I still do even if not required.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Anyways, that’s karma

  65. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Legendary rapper, Biz Markie, dead at 57 years old last night. Shock G was of course 57 years old as well. They did a song together back in the day that I thought would be most appropriate for this blog what with the warring.

    It’s funny, though a bit crude… just like most of US! It should have been titled “Why Can’t We Just Get Along?”. Biz Markie vs Humpty Hump (East vs West)… BEGIN!!!

  66. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    You on bail and don’t want to be locked up? Talking to your probation officer about “the size of your genitalia” is probably not the way to go.
    ————————————–
    A District of Columbia judge revoked bail for an accused Capitol rioter after he allegedly sent “problematic” and sexually explicit voicemails to his probation officer. Brandon Fellows, from New York, had previously been released on bail while facing a five-count indictment for his alleged role in the January 6 insurrection.

    Fellows’ probation officer Kendra Rennie testified that he reportedly sent her long rambling voicemails while he was on bail and even called her mother once as a form of “intimidation,” Some of the messages were sexually explicit in nature, including one specific voicemail in which he referenced “the size of his genitalia and the performance of his genitalia.”

    Judge Trevor McFadden said “I tried really hard to avoid having to lock you up, but after months here, I don’t think I can be at all confident that there’s a condition or combination of conditions that you’ll adhere to.”

    Prosecutors offered Fellows a plea deal that would recommend a sentence of 15 to 21 months. He has not yet accepted.

  67. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    My dad used to live in Minneapolis, he still watches a live cam from St Paul, where the cop drives around for 5 hours a day, but doesn’t answer any calls.

    A shooting comes in and they go check it out, but just observe, they aren’t aloud to take action.

    On one show the cop says this is the 17th shooting today, Minneapolis has twice as many as we do.

    This is what some of our cities have become.

    What people do you think this affects the most? Yes, the same ones blm, antifa, biden and all the rest of the looney left says they want to help

  68. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    July 17, 2021 at 3:47 pm
    You have to look into the science more…
    —————
    Stanger… Stanger, Stanger, Stanger (LOL)! If I hear that one more time, that we have to look into the science more! LOL

    See, that’s the broad-brushing excuse of ‘well, our understanding changes as we learn more’… that’s not science, especially since the government has been PUSHING this experimental vaccine on its citizens since day one.

    This is NOT what was advertised or sold to the American public, buddy.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Up above you said “I was under the impression that the vax = immunity from the virus.” The people who made the vaccine didn’t even say that. Nor did the FDA, the CDC, Dr. Fausi nor Presidents Trump and Biden. How did you get that impression?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        SCIENTIFICALLY speaking, you are most correct. To the average human, it means you can’t get it or spread it any longer. You win on that one point, but the average Joe believes otherwise.

        Now, please address what I stated above.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        A reminder that this is a friendly, gentlemanly conversation. I’m not out to get you, and I don’t think you’re out to get me. I think we’re citing the pros and cons of the vaccine, and how it’s not exactly “SCIENCE”, yet.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        99+% of the American Covid deaths in 2021 were unvaccinated. Leaves unsure of what your problem with the vaccines are.

        You thought vaccine means immune or at least was sold to you that way. I have followed and never had that impression. But even if not what you thought from some source won’t name…… the vaccines work like gang busters. Is the problem not as well as you thought?

  69. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    July 17, 2021 at 4:26 pm
    99+% of the American Covid deaths in 2021 were unvaccinated. Leaves unsure of what your problem with the vaccines are.
    ——————
    Leaves unsure of what is in the vaccine… and being it involves mRNA. Herd immunity SHOULD be the goal (that’s natural), instead of injecting people with mRNA and other stuff they won’t tell you is in it.

    I’ve got no problem with anybody who voluntarily takes the shot, but buyer beware… nobody has any idea of what will happen to ya several years down the road. This so-called “vaccine” has not met the threshold of safety and long-term effects.

    ANY talk of mandatory injections is out of bounds and is unconstitutional.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      And with that stated, I will rest on that laurel. Freedom = choice.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      I actually am on the board of a place that does stuff like mRNA, which makes me sorta laugh about it as the boogyman. But if you are that worried about it get the Johnson & Johnson shot. It was developed the old-fashion way.

      And of course the question would be long-term effects given haven’t seen what happens for more than like two years. But can you name bad impacts from any vaccine in a 20 year window that didn’t show up in the first 2? You may be able to but will be an outlier.

      And btw — by your call on this you would have to wait 20 years before taking any new vaccine or medicine. Most people don’t do that…..although you are welcome to take that approach.

      2nd BTW — if you don’t think mandatory injections are unconstitutional you don’t know much about the subject….. says a guy who specialized in such.

  70. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Anyone hear about Howard being traded to the Browns?

  71. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I didn’t mean anyone hates people on this blog, I meant we bust balls here then deal with all the real hate and nonsense in the world. What goes on here is nothing compared to the real ugliness out there.

  72. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Doesn’t sound like the speculation is even speculating that much.

  73. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I just read about a potential Howard to the Browns trade…but it was on a real disreputable site.

  74. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Phish, your comments on The Beatles is blasphemy.

  75. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    99+% of the American Covid deaths in 2021 were unvaccinated
    ——————————-
    Not denying but was wondering where this # came from? I checked 6 different COVID tracking sites, including CDC and none have that breakdown.

    I know Dr. Fauci says that but I refuse to listen to anything else he has to say. He has lied enough for me not to trust him. Only place I can find that stat is in articles referencing Fauci saying that.

    I did find this in a recently published WebMD article: “The CDC tracks the numbers of cases, hospitalizations and deaths, but does not break down rates by vaccination status.”

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      PFF on Richie, who seems to be chugging along.
      ———————————–
      “Getting on in years but still an impressive player, Richie Incognito started last season at the same high standard he has maintained for years before injury put him out for the year. The veteran has three consecutive seasons of 80.0-plus PFF pass-blocking grades (albeit separated by his one-year sabbatical) and was on pace for another after one game of action. The question for Incognito is whether age has caught up with him in terms of durability, even if it isn’t slowing his play.”

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      BBM — heard that one CNN this morning and yes from Dr. Fauci before. Even if that was Fauci talking about the June stats and today CNN was going with year to date.

      But you have had Covid and natural immunity, so seems you are good to go. They for sure aren’t breaking out that stat.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        And have heard on my local news and ABC Worrld News Tonight as far as the June stats, even if may have been repeating what Fauci said.

  76. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I still like my trade better.

    X to Detroit

    Miami gets Detroit 2022 2nd, which will be real high 2nd and DE Trey Flowers.
    Also a swap of picks Miami 6th for Detroit 5th.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I’m kind of meh on this one as well. I liked Flowers a few years ago but I feel he’s overpaid for his production and we’d be picking up a big contract. I’d prefer we work it out with X.

  77. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    All those Howard trades are speculative

  78. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    July 17, 2021 at 4:47 pm
    I actually am on the board of a place that does stuff like mRNA, which makes me sorta laugh about it as the boogyman. But if you are that worried about it get the Johnson & Johnson shot. It was developed the old-fashion way.

    And of course the question would be long-term effects given haven’t seen what happens for more than like two years. But can you name bad impacts from any vaccine in a 20 year window that didn’t show up in the first 2? You may be able to but will be an outlier.

    And btw — by your call on this you would have to wait 20 years before taking any new vaccine or medicine. Most people don’t do that…..although you are welcome to take that approach.

    2nd BTW — if you don’t think mandatory injections are unconstitutional you don’t know much about the subject….. says a guy who specialized in such.
    —————-
    You’re beginning to sound extremely authoritarian to me with this response. Excuse me for saying as much, but it’s alarming, IMO. Are you trying to tell us that we have no choice — as Americans — to have an experiment injected into our bodies?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      How am I authoritarian by telling you are wrong on the law? I used to teach this stuff. Should I just have said you are right even though you are not?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Allow me to reiterate (I asked you the question, don’t answer me with a question): Are you trying to tell us that we have no choice — as Americans — to have an experiment injected into our bodies?

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Depends on the laws, the situation and in most cases prior court procedures. But you put it as an absolute couldn’t happen. Hundreds of thousands of people with mental illness under court orders to take medication, including shots of long lasting anti-psychotics. Those orders are 100% constitutional.

  79. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    That’s just it. This 99% is being put out by Fauci and regurgitated by the media. I just question how that # is being come up with when Fauci’s own CDC says they don’t track it by vaccination status. WebMD was also pushing this 99% in their article but also cited that they got this number from the AP. Really, the Associated Press?

    Again, don’t get me wrong, I believe in vaccinations. They give you the antibodies to fight the virus if you get it and reduce the risk of hospitalization or worse.

    This virus ain’t no joke but I just wonder if that 99% might be exaggerated to a degree to cause some fearmongering in the unvaccinated.

    I was trying to find this article I read the last time this subject came up. It’s by an Epidemiologist from the Department of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at John Hopkins who said he has yet to get the vaccine himself until more research is done regarding the over 5,000 deaths the vaccine itself is attributed to and long term affects if any.

    The 5,000 deaths is a very small number compared to the number that COVID has killed but he also said that the 5000 deaths from COVID vaccine are more than all the deaths caused by all other vaccines given over the last 30 years.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      “CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said at a Thursday White House briefing that preliminary data reviewed by her agency suggests 99.5% of the people who died from Covid-19 over the past six months were unvaccinated” (Forbes).

      Seems CDC is tracking such. Even if it is 95% don’t get what the issue is. Vax works.

  80. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Stanger,

    Are you trying to tell us that we have no choice — as Americans — to have an experiment injected into our bodies? That sounds extremely authoritarian to me.

    There, I phrased it better.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      You said it was unconstitutional for that to happen. I said it is not.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Again, you didn’t answer my question. Forget what I said, I want to hear what YOU (a former lawyer and lobbyist) have, as an answer to my question. No more deflection. I want YOUR answer to MY question.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Stop dancing like Ronnie Brown in our backfield, answer the question.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        I did answer your question above. And then you pretty repeated it here. I taught a law school class on this stuff but you are right and I am wrong. Does that do it for you?

  81. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Stanger,

    Just so we’re clear… you ARE telling us that we have no choice — as Americans — to have an experiment injected into our bodies. Is that correct?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Not saying that all. And think I wrote very clearly. What part don’t you get?

      If you just want to know the vax won’t be forced on you , well it won’t. Couldn’t imagine that happening based on this virus.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        stangerx says:
        July 17, 2021 at 4:47 pm

        2nd BTW — if you don’t think mandatory injections are unconstitutional you don’t know much about the subject….. says a guy who specialized in such.
        ————-
        Explain yourself!

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        As the kids say today, ‘mic drop’.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Do you not read my replies to you?
        ——
        Depends on the laws, the situation and in most cases prior court procedures. But you put it as an absolute couldn’t happen. Hundreds of thousands of people with mental illness under court orders to take medication, including shots of long lasting anti-psychotics. Those orders are 100% constitutional.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      It has been approved by the FDA. So the answer is yes

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        They will not require but they could. “Danger to self or others” is a standard commitment criteria. If a virus was say 50% fatal oh yes the choice would be take the vaccine or be confined.

  82. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/can-covid-19-vaccines-be-mandatory-in-the-u-s-and-who-decides.html

    “The short answer is yes. States have the legal and constitutional authority to require that the people who live in that state be vaccinated, or to introduce a vaccine mandate.”

    “The authority for the state being able to compel vaccination—the affirmation of that authority—goes all the way back to a U.S. Supreme Court case in 1905 called Jacobson v. Massachusetts. That case arose in the midst of an outbreak of smallpox in Cambridge, Massachusetts, in 1902. Cambridge introduced an ordinance requiring all adults be vaccinated or revaccinated against smallpox. If they didn’t [get vaccinated], they would have to pay a fine of $5.”

    “Jacobson was a resident of Cambridge who, for a number of reasons, objected to the vaccination mandate and brought a lawsuit against Massachusetts for the mandate. He raised a number of arguments, including one that his constitutionally protected liberty interests were being infringed by this mandate.”

    “In that case, the Supreme Court—and —said that states have under their police powers, which is under the Constitution, the authority to enact reasonable regulations as necessary to protect public health, public safety, and the common good. Vaccination mandates constitute exactly that kind of permissible state action to protect the public’s health. Even though it’s 115 years old, this continues to be the benchmark case on the state’s power to mandate vaccination.”

    “In response to the argument about this individual liberty interest, the court said that sometimes individual interests might have to yield to state laws that endeavour to protect the health of everybody—the “common good.” The court said: “The rights of the individual may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint to be enforced by reasonable regulations as the safety of the general public may demand.”

  83. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    stangerx says:
    July 17, 2021 at 8:51 pm
    Do you not read my replies to you?
    ——
    Depends on the laws, the situation and in most cases prior court procedures. But you put it as an absolute couldn’t happen. Hundreds of thousands of people with mental illness under court orders to take medication, including shots of long lasting anti-psychotics. Those orders are 100% constitutional.
    ————–
    I 100% understand you regarding mental illness. And yes, the lawyer in you wants to protect/advance precedence. But there is zero correlation to mental illness and an active virus.

    I don’t even see the relevance, to be honest. That’s not only apples to oranges, that’s like comparing your Pittsburgh Pirates to caveman art… nothing in common. Sorry, but true.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      All those medication orders for people with mental illness are constitutional. Maybe I just should have kept it simple. Sorry.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      I leave you in peace, my man Stanger. All good, even when we disagree.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Just sorta of funny when we are talking not just law but my exact area of expertise that we have to leave it at we disagree. Way it goes on this board though I guess.

  84. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Might be the most influential song to start Heavy Metal. All that tension.

  85. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    I am in the midst of watching Helter Skelter an American Myth season 1 … very interesting, lots of back story I did not previously know …

    Carry On 😊

  86. ocalarob's avatar ocalarob says:

    Stanger, i know a guy who has issues and under medication who went off his meds, started snorting cocaine and stabbed some guy in the neck.
    did 8 years and i’m sure he has to take his meds. court ordered.

    but to mix that in with taking a covid shot is unrealistic.

    both are a proposed danger to society.

    so where does the law start and end.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      There’s no line in the sand, they’d have to argue it in court.

      The mental health part was just to prove the absolute m13 said wrong.

      The 50% death rate was a better example, and shows there is a point where they can make you take it or else

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        During a pandemic the laws change, many feel that’s the reason why covid happened, and shows the real authoritarian intentions.

        Not saying I agree with this, but I’m not saying it wasn’t the case.

        From NWO to globalization to govt corruption we do have evidence as something that wouldn’t surprise me, if this is what was really done.

        Gavin Newsome was seen with Soros’ son, next day he has a new house, I can connect the dots.

        These people will stop at nothing to get what they want.

        Who could believe 10 years ago all the stuff, that happened in 2020 between the riots/looting to the pandemic lockdowns.

        Fauci has lied about it from day one (didn’t come from a lab in Wuhan), that leads me to believe it’s a possibility and getting stronger by the day.

        Socialism is also more evidence.

        Cuba started out promoting socialism before the real communism came forth.

        What’s the difference between Cuba/Venezuela and what is being pushed here?

        Maybe a lot, but maybe more of the same, why give it any chance?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Sorry late catching this. From the standpoint of the law it is very significant. If mandatory shots are OK in some circumstances means they could be in others, including vaccinations. I am not and have not claimed the right circumstances are there with Covid-19.

  87. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    I say I believe in vaccines because they have proved their worth as history shows in their effectiveness to wipe out diseases and/or give us the antibodies to better fight them if we contract the disease. I do have COVID antibodies but for how long? Will I get the vaccine at some point? NO! For same reason I have not gotten a flu shot in over 15 years nor have I gotten any vaccination since leaving the military. I do not trust the system anymore.

    People need to open up their eyes and ears more. I have not brought up how I really feel cause just about everyone on here would call me crazy and a conspiracy theorist. Y’all hate conspiracy theories but how is something a conspiracy theory when alarming statements are made in speeches, interviews, writings, etc. coming straight from the horses mouths?

    I see people balk at M13 or anyone else who brings up the NWO. It exists and runs much deeper than anyone could imagine. Problem is too many people laugh, roll their eyes and tell you your nuts. The NWO knows this. That’s why they have let the masses discredit the ones who have opened their eyes and ears. They don’t have to do anything but sit back and watch their sheeple battle back and forth and do the work for them. Their main tools are their puppets (politicians, scholars, etc.) and media to control the heard (population).

    Though many sheeple are opening their eyes and ears. They are speaking out about it so now the NWO is starting to step in. How? Social Media. They have the government now monitoring your social media sites and text messages so they can censor anyone who they feel is spreading what they consider disinformation or “problematic” to their agenda. Even if what is being said is fact. If they feel it is problematic to their agenda, they have given themselves (against the 1st amendment) the right to censor you. This is only the beginning. COVID is just their foot in the door.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I would call you crazy

      I also balk at the idea of an NWO

      And I’m not inclined to walk on eggshells about it

      Belief in ideas like this with no evidence to support it is nothing to be proud of

      The notion that the government is behind social media censorship is farfetched and ignores the very real explanation to why places like Twitter and Facebook are censoring your speech – bc there lose money if they aren’t and at the end of the day their business is to make money

      Facebook was specifically sued by the European Union for harvesting data of its consumers. That doesn’t sound like the act of a govt that wants to use that data for their own purposes….

      Just last March, Facebook and Twitter was subpoenaed to testify in front of congress specifically on the subject of spreading extremism on social media

      There are of course different views on whether they should be blamed for the content that is posted on their forums. The tech is new enough to really have strong and varied positions on this

      but if you were a person who’s business is dependent on the existence of that forum or even a shareholder in that business, you would take steps not too cross that line so you can avoid the possibility of a new law disrupting your business

      It’s not the NWO. It’s just business and basic greed. A real fact of life that grownups have to deal with. Other people want your stuff, especially your money.

      Your inclination to call it the NWO or some nefarious organization is no different than a child who blames a monster under their bed instead of their fear of the dark.

      I will definitely call that stuff out on here and call it crazy. Bc it is.

      I don’t have to open “my eyes and ears” to conspiracies when I can see in plain daylight that some people are choosing to ignore reasonable explanations that are far more likely to be true.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        You’re so naive

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Or maybe that’s just what you want us to believe. Do you still believe everything is on the level? Do you believe in Santy Claus and the Easter Bunny?

  88. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    It’s to bad my proctologist is closed today!

    I guess I’ll just read the blog?

  89. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    I don’t believe in any NWO and any of the theories that go along with that. The middle class, or the large majority of Americans have been footing the bill for a long time. The rich are able to beat the tax collector and the poor are subsidized by the government so the middle class takes the hit. It’s nothing “NEW”, it’s as old as dirt, I should know. lol

    Social media platforms, like twitter and Facebook are created by those with left ideals. I see every day the fact checking that Facebook employs and how it only fact checks conservative claims against Democratic political figures. Now I’m sure there are as many untrue or partially correct memes on the other side but if it’s the left attacking the right, it goes untouched by the fact checkers. It’s crazy, but that’s not the NWO, it’s Zuckerberg and what he’s done with the platform he created. Twitter I know less about because I’m not on it much. Seems anything goes there, it’s a free for all.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I agree with about 95% of this

      I don’t agree with the portion that says these platforms are created by people with wild left ideas. Although I’m pretty sure the founders at least lean left. I don’t think what they do is so much about their preferences though – I think at the end of the day the determining factor is $, including but not limited to lawsuits of government oversight

      Years before any of us were born, the motion picture industry faced a lot of scrutiny (even pulled into congressional hearings) over their industry

      So the motion picture industry created the MPA which led to the modern day rating system we have today

      They self censored to keep the government out and that’s what social media is doing today – self censorship to avoid lawsuits and go not regulation

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        I didn’t say “wild left”, just left ideals. I think you don’t disagree with me on that, you agree with me. Maybe you just figured I meant wild left, I didn’t. No doubt the platform is geared more toward liberal leanings than conservative. To me it’s comical that every conservative post or meme I see is fact checked, and yes, in some cases they are partially untrue but of course so are many of the liberal posts and memes also, but they remain free of fact checks.

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