GAMEDAY!! Dolphins @ Raiders

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    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      Missed call

      But I can’t get over sitting on a 14 point lead and tanking

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        14 in the first Q is a lot different than 14 late in the 3rd.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Yes 14-0 is ideal to dictate how the game goes

        Look at the difference between what the bills did up 14 and what we did for reference

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        To me a 14 point bump is a fantastic start. I’m not gonna dump on the guys too bad today. Was one great game to watch and we were a play away from winning it in OT with our back-up QB in there.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I don’t agree at all

        It’s a lot more than a great start

        Usually a start like that just means the other team made a huge mistake or two

        Just likes yesterday with the lick six and 4th down stop

        The difference between most teams is not that great, the game is yours if you go up by 2 scores. The other team will be pressing and you can comfortably call your offense

        Tanking on a 14 point lead shows a deeper problem with the team

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        We just see our football different. Maybe growing up with Marino I never took a 14 point lead for granted…. their’s or ours. But yeah this team might have deeper problems. OL ain’t looking good and our QB is out for starters. But then wasn’t us to be gangbusters this year anyhow and knew the first 5 games were tough ones.

  1. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    twicethethe says:
    September 27, 2021 at 1:43 pm (Edit)
    if this is how bad the schemes/play calling are with 2 OCs, maybe we should try 3 OCs???

    ****

    It’s the end of times when Twice advocates for three times instead

  2. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

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    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Travis Wingfield
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      Coach says most teams try to limit big plays and the offense needs to execute to hit big plays. Says there were some opportunities and Miami didn’t execute on all of them.
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      Tua is getting better every day, Flores says.
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      On Byron v Waller — We knew we had to have a good plan on him and part of that was Byron covering him. Eric Rowe covered him, too. We tried to jam him, he still got his targets. At the end of the day we didn’t do enough, and that starts with me.
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      Flores says he was encouraged by some of the run game work. Says it needs to be more consistent.

  4. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Cheers, New Age! Much appreciated πŸ™‚

    SB7, agreed, Brissett should be given a ration of credit for the safety as well. I mentioned yesterday, it was a poor decision, and then an even worse throw. Waddle may have been able to avoid the safety on a good throw where he doesn’t have to jump, but the fact is, the ball never should have gone there. And if Waddle had good awareness, he would have batted the ball down, but that is a lot to expect from a rookie.

    Rhino, I’m not too worried about advancing in the post season. This Cards team really didn’t live up to expectations all year and really underachieved. I feel this run is just something fun to enjoy while it’s happening, but I honestly don’t expect to get out of the WC round. I’m satisfied with the streak, and hopefully the team will realize the importance of winning the damned division and not wait until September next year to start playing good ball.

  5. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    A number of times yesterday the announcers said Byron Jones was in coverage on Waller. Not sure if was all the time, but don’t remember him on a TE before.

    Waller finished 5 of 7 targets for 54 yards. Pretty good day, but not for Waller. So maybe it worked.

  6. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Since we only run 35 plays a game our DL gets more opportunities
    ————————————-
    Being sarcastic I take it, but actually:

    We ran 78 plays against the Raiders.

    We have ran 194 plays in 3 games averaging just over 64 plays a game.

    THE PROBLEM is we move the ball like an inch worm, no big plays. Our OL won’t allow for the big play. Running ok and dink & dunk has been just enough to move ball a little and get some 1st downs but that’s it.

    IMO, this OL is much better at run blocking. We did run the ball (RB’s only) 20 times vs Raiders at almost 5 yards a carry (20 for 96 yards). Though, a chuck came on Brown 24 yard TD. Should have run more especially in the first half when the D needed a rest. They are not calling plays to help our TOP at all.

    Gaskin needs more carries per game. He is averaging about 5.3 yards a carry but only 27 carries in 3 games. That is probably what they wanted from him this season but he needs about 5 more carries per game. Brown is averaging just under 4 yards a carry. Ahmed is not getting it done when he is in there. He didn’t even get a carry vs the Raiders.

  7. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Quite a rant based on an assumption of who is calling the plays

    We have 2 OCs, because they didn’t want to lose one of them to another team

    By giving both of them the OC title other teams couldn’t poach

    Every coach has a role, we just don’t know who to blame for these atrocious plays being called at the wrong time

    Flores has been so aggressive the past 2 years and 2 games, but yesterday when it’s time to be aggressive his…shrinks like a…

  8. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  9. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Not sure for how long (sentencing in May), but R Kelly is going to the big house.
    ———————————–
    “R. Kelly was found guilty on all counts with a Brooklyn, N.Y. jury of seven men and five women returning the verdict on Monday afternoon after less than two full days of deliberations.

    Kelly was found guilty on one count of racketeering and eight counts of violating the Mann Act, an interstate anti-sex trafficking law.”

  10. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I don’t think the offense wants to play the short conservative game like they do. The way things are right now they don’t have much of a choice due to protection issues. Similar to what the Giants are going through. We also don’t run the ball well enough to set up play-action downfield passing. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see if they get better.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Like I said yesterday evening, we can’t set up the deep pass with all of our protection issues. We have ALL the speed in the world, but it matters not if our QB gets a pass-rush in his face in a mere 2 seconds. It’s bad.

  11. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Stats can be misleading.

  12. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    I’m not sure how he gets it?
    But the QB coach calls the play into the QB.

    The rest is some 007 shit! πŸ˜‰

  13. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  14. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    As we know, yesterday, the Lions lost to the Ravens 19-17 on a last second record 66 yd fg.

    I’m sure most here know about the clubfoot kicker, Tom Dempsey, who while playing for Nawlins, hit a then record 63 yd fg in 1970. In a weird coincidence, that was also the Lions on the losing end in that game. They lost that game by the same score as yesterday’s game, 19-17.

    LOL, oh the life of a Lions fan.

  15. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    —————-
    Yeah, if you don’t count pressures, hits, penalties, and bone-headed plays. Nobody thought we’d try to run yesterday, so that’s a cheap trick.

    Omar doesn’t understand O-Line play, though he’d tell everyone he’s some kind of connoisseur on the matter. SMH

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Omar is a natural contrarian, and NOBODY likes a contrarian.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      We did have some nice runs, but we don’t exactly impose our will on teams with our run game. We’re also not consistent in anything we do on offense. All you have to do is watch the games to know that. Lots of work needs to be done to get better.

  16. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Another thing I’m not real happy about is using Waddle like we did with Landry. 12-58 4.8 and a long of 9 as a receiver. Ugh!

  17. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I saw several plays where (and I suggested to do this!) Austin Jackson got helped by our RB (whether it be Gaskin or Brown) in pass-pro. Jackson sucked so badly, that even with a double-team, he funked it up.

    Jackson seemed to actually help block his teammate from stopping the edge-rusher. That takes TALENT!!!

  18. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    September 27, 2021 at 5:45 pm
    He was probably at the game but he might have been talking to others about hip-hop, rap, black issues and sneakers. LOL
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    πŸ˜†

    That would be Omar! LOL

  19. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    The safeties was retarded on so many levels

    If the throw doesn’t make Waddle jump he should get out of the endzone, but why throw a behind the LOS pass in the endzone with defenders close?

    Why did Waddle catch it?

    Why not the wide open TE

    Why call that play at all

  20. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    steveccnv says:
    September 27, 2021 at 2:54 pm (Edit)
    Quite a rant based on an assumption of who is calling the plays

    We have 2 OCs, because they didn’t want to lose one of them to another team

    By giving both of them the OC title other teams couldn’t poach

    Every coach has a role, we just don’t know who to blame for these atrocious plays being called at the wrong time

    Flores has been so aggressive the past 2 years and 2 games, but yesterday when it’s time to be aggressive his…shrinks like a…

    ****

    These guys didn’t have offers from anyone else…lol

    2 OCs is unusual

    We know who to blame for the the coaching – we blame the coaches. I dont care if we don’t know the details of who called what play. The fact that it’s unknown is part of the problem

    They are playing tag team chess. It’s a bad experiment by Flores. If you want to hire an offensive guru, then you hire 1 and let him delegate how to achieve his offensive scheme. You don’t hire 2 people to do that job

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Piggy, how do you know either of them were not being targeted by other teams? Making them both OC’s blocks any team from hiring them away unless they become HC.

      I do not think the play-calling is a dual assignment. Teams do use run game coordinator and pass game coordinator and a lot of time then an offensive HC calls the plays. My guess is Godsey calls the plays from upstairs and Frye is the one communicating it to the QB. Studesville is the top coach on offense on the field. He’s the one talking to them face to face about what we’re seeing.

      At the end of the day it’s always about execution.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Bc they were in-house promotions from a shitty offense and none of them had a single nfl interview through Early February when they were promoted – they would have had those interviews lined up if they were leaving by February. It’s not like we were in the postseason

        Let’s be realistic guys. Suggesting some one else was dying to hire Studeville or Godsey is just a shortcut to dismiss my argument. No one wa going to hire those two….come on….

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        But you don’t know for sure about that, you’re just speculating. Both coaches have good reputations around the league. We don’t know what kind of conversations go on from within the building. Steve has also mentioned this before your posts about it recently. Godsey has been an OC with Houston and some people think Studesville could become and OC or even HC. The coaching fraternity is not as public as fans and media try to make it out to be. Look at the 7 new HCs this year, some of these guys you probably didn’t know much about.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I’m speculating based on the way it usually works

        They promoted them both in early February. They weren’t going anywhere if other teams were interested by that date.

  21. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    IF — in fact– we hired 2 OCs to keep both from being hired/poached by another team… what is the limit on coordinators? Is it 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, or ???

    All I know is this: our Offensive game SUCKS, and it starts with our O-Line.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        And I do NOT like bureaucracy: it only adds another cog to go wrong in the machine.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Is it really? You have to know what the function of each coach does. I think we’re looking for scapegoats to excuse poor execution by players.

        One example is Waddle who has natural talent and speed, but he has a lot to work on with the finer points of the game. He’s a bit green in some areas. Now think about that with a lot of other young players. That’s why I’ve said since the season started maybe we went too young too early. But maybe that was the plan all along moving forward. We fans have to deal with the fact that developing young talent was still the process as opposed to competing for championships.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      You can probably have 10 if you want

      Which begs the question: Why don’t teams do that? Why is 1 the norm or the preference?

  22. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Here’s a better question. Since you are unhappy with assuming who is calling the plays

    What if you knew they were both calling plays?

    What if you knew they alternative A) plays B) series C) quarters or D) games?

    Would you consider that harmful to the offense?

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I would consider that stupid that’s why I don’t think that is the case. Flores is not stupid.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        So then what?

        Is 1 just a really limited OC who doesn’t get involved in play calling?

        It’s a little weird, you have to admit. It doesn’t really serve a purpose to have 2

  23. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Tim

    If you are wondering

    As a whole I have real concerns about the way the game is called during the flow of the game. That’s what really jumps out to me after the first 3 games

    I don’t like what I saw after we went up by 14 points yesterday…until we got into the 2 minute drill

    Our best drive this season may have been the first drive this season and most of us assumed that was scripted

    Whomever is calling the plays doesn’t seem to be a few plays ahead the way an OC should be

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think it’s pretty simple. We can’t block our plays on a consistent basis. How many times do we see the play wrecked before it even develops only to watch our skill players have to go above and beyond to salvage the play? For me it’s too often.

  24. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Did you guys know Myles Gaskin has more yards for us than Harris for a Pitt and has the same amount of yards as Javonte Williams for Denver (with less carries)

    That’s a Positive

  25. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  26. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I really doubt they have more than one OC calling plays on game day. There is probably conversation about what to call here or there, but when it comes to actually calling plays, it’s not mix and match. Most likely, whomever is in the booth is probably calling the plays.
    ***
    Designing a game plan for the game during the week is completely different and that’s always a team effort. I really don’t see this as anything real different. But, I do question the job these two guys are doing. However it’s designed in house, it’s not working, and it’s not just the OL’s fault by a long shot.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      There is a lot of learning curve stuff going on simultaneously throughout the team. There is no great body of work to draw from where a large portion of the players on this team have won together. The same with the coaching staff. To me this team is still in developmental mode whether we like it or not. We see some nice flashes here and there, but not quite good enough yet.

  27. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Game was horribly officiated, Fuller obvious PI in endzone not called, another PI against Gesicki not called, 3 questionable at best personal fouls, but Flores choked

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Horribly officiated is a common trait in every game I watch. It’s getting to the point of not watchable. That makes me sad.

  28. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Here’s another crazy example of too young too early. All offseason the NFL world has said start Justin Fields over Andy Dalton. So Dalton goes down and Fields starts in week 3. 47 total yards of offense in week 3.

    Then you have Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Mac Jones. One win between all 4 rookie QBs.

  29. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    The refs missing that flagrant hit on Davante Adams last night was pretty brutal, especially when you compare it to the ‘he breathed on him too hard’ penalties we see called on QB hits all the time.

    It does seem there have been a lot of missed and inconsistent calls in most of the games I’ve watched so far this season.

  30. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Per
    @NextGenStats

    Average depth of target

    Ja’Marr Chase: 16.4 yards
    DeVonta Smith: 15.9 yards
    Dyami Brown: 13.1 yards
    Elijah Moore: 13 yards
    Amon-Ra St. Brown: 9.9 yards
    Jaylen Waddle: 3.8 yards

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      We have some very football-intelligent folks on this board. What does this tell y’all?

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I get we’re trying to get the ball in Waddle’s hands for the big play. The big play isn’t there yet because we struggle at the LOS. Waddle is also a bit raw. I think his upside is huge, but it’s not here yet. Right now we’re using him to complement the running game. He’s too explosive to hamper his skills. But if we can’t block a 3-4 second deep ball…?

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Tim I think waddle is doing everything we ask of him

        We aren’t passing to him deep bc the OL can’t block

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Piggy, I think I said that about Waddle. πŸ˜‰

    • bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

      Lol at 3.8 to those other numbers….. oh and smh

  31. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    So Cowboys throw from their own end zone and get sack stripped for an Eagles TD. So not so bad now is it? 2 isn’t so bad….

  32. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Opponents know we’re young and vulnerable. Until the OL starts to say fuck you this will continue.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I really thought some of these guys went through rookie mistakes last year though

        It feels like they digressed

        Jackson especially

  33. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Anyone started this yet?

    Week 4 Dolphins vs Colts
    HOWIE’s LIST

    Herd – 24-20 🐬

  34. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    You guys are crazy, we tried for a 99.9 yard play with Waddle, it just didn’t work, but at least they TRIED!!

  35. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    This OL is gonna struggle this year. Folks’ heart rates would go down a lot if they just accepted that. Lol
    ***
    Hopefully, we begin to see improvement. That’s the most disappointing thing for me. I don’t think we’ve seen drastic regression because they weren’t really all that good last year…but this definitely isn’t good enough. These guys need to be coached up. Still too damn many guys on the ground way too often.

  36. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Parsons looks really good so far this year. Dammit.

  37. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Maybe this will work?

    LT- Eich
    LG -Jackson
    C – dieter
    RG – kindley
    RT Hunt

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      So let’s move them all over the place and not look for any consistency? I hate cross-training but maybe, just maybe… we need to switch things up. LOL

  38. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Week 4 Dolphins vs Colts
    HOWIE’s LIST

    Herd – 24-20 🐬
    Tim Knight – 3-2 🐬 πŸ˜‰
    🐷 31-10 🐬

  39. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Piggy,
    I hope they just keep throwing these guys out there, let them take their lumps and grow together. Maybe they tweak some stuff or motivate a guy here or there with taking them out, but these guys have the physical talent. They’re just so young and don’t really have any decent veteran guys out there with them for a stabilizing force. Davis isn’t really it. I hope they don’t give up on these guys as quickly as the fans have! Lol

  40. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Week 4 Dolphins vs Colts
    HOWIE’s LIST

    Herd – 24-20 🐬
    Tim Knight – 3-2 🐬 πŸ˜‰
    🐷 31-10 🐬
    Kong 24-17 🐬

  41. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Justin Tucker, Westlake High School, kicked the longest field goal in NFL. I heard Drew Brees gave him props, both alumni.

    Passed by WHS twice today.

  42. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Some good news

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      But where does Jevon Holland stand? How about Brandon Jones being used as a blitzer – 2 sacks.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        Jones has been pretty good so far

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I liked what I saw with Phillips continuing to get his feet wet. It looks like he’s still thinking out there a bit too much. But he held up physically – saw him set the edge pretty well a few times.

        We just talked about a 2nd year and two rookies – three young defenders that are a part of our young defense. It’s not just on offense.

      • Phillips has looked lost, unlike his former teammate Gregory Rousseau

        but i dont think its Phillips fault, its likely the fact Phillips has worse coaching.

        the way Waddle is being misused,

        is making Me think the Dolphins need to get a new coach, that knows how to hire the right OC

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      Couldn’t happen to a better MFF.

  43. if Flores is unable to get assistants to help bring out the best of the players, his future with Miami will be short IMO

    remember what was said about Shula? he gets the best out of his players?.

    that isnt what we are seeing now, we are seeing talent inhibited

  44. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    How is Waddle being misused? He has 26 targets in 3 games, that’s a pretty good amount for a rookie WR. The O-line hasn’t given either QB time to throw so most plays are short passes, it’s the QB’s taking what’s available. It’s hard to really get a gauge on what the offense is supposed to be with the failures of the O-line.

    • fastest guy on the team averaged 4 yards a reception, and got tackled for a safety on what many are calling the dumbest play call of the year

      surely Waddle is more capable than that

      ever hear anyone say FLores gets the most from his players? i used to hear that all the time about SHula

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t know if misused is the right word

      He’s got a lot of catches for short yardage,
      If he breaks one, and he’s been close, the conversation is different

      But the team is really targeting him to break one….maybe too much

      He’s basically in the slot with Fuller and Parker outside so it can be effective but it hasn’t been

      12 catches for under 60 yards doesn’t really speak to waddles use as much as it does the offense’s limitations right now

      It would be nice if he was more around 7 catches for 100 yards with Fuller and Parker getting big yardage too

      The team is just really having trouble stretching the field

      It’s not our biggest problem and ultimately waddle is producing and having a good rookie year

  45. Mike, the team lost last week 35-0, and showed more heart this week, but still are 1-2

    there is a TON of room for improvement, a TON

    we cant sit back and pretend the coaches are doing a fantastic job, we would need to see evidence of that first, right?

  46. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    It is times like these that I turn to the NYJ to get comfort. 0-3 and outscored 70-20.

  47. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Waddle and his 4 yards is all about play calling. He can only run the routes that are called and they were using him to try to slow down the pass rush. The internal promotion of the Co-co’s looks like a mistake at this point, regardless of who is calling the plays down to down. It appears like they are trying too hard to force the passing game through the RB’s and TE’s. (not just as check downs but as the prime targets) Not really surprising from the RB & TE coach.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      Yes, RB’s, TE’s and Waddle are getting the most targets. I agree they seem to be the target on the play called more times than not. Only time when not is long down and distance.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        Even then they are calling wheel routes and such. The whole fake screen screen drives me crazy too. Set up a screen with blockers as a fake and then screen to the guy who has no blockers out front. Makes perfect sense. (as much as the safety play this past week.)

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        The problem Rock is Brissett, he sucks reading a D, he just makes throws and doesn’t consider the best place to throw

        It’s OK to fake the screen and throw back to the guy with no blockers, if he has some space, but that’s not what we’re getting

  48. Rookie mistakes are allowed for rookies – players, coaches and even general managers. The troubling thing is that when you are in year three you need to set the precedent, not revert back to rookie mistakes. Coach Flores is teetering that line of advancing to the coach that everyone hopes he can become or falling like all other Miami Dolphins coaches before him.

    Here is what we know. Coach Flores isn’t afraid to make moves or call out issues or make a drastic change. We saw that when he fired Pat Flatherty one week into training camp. Flores has to now look at these past three games and notice a trend that is obvious to everyone outside of this organization, the Dolphins have no identity on offense. Flores thought he could utilize two offensive coordinators to streamline the game flow and adapt to players that already had existing bonds and relationships with their divisions.

    The truth is, this is not working. The game calling is literally making Miami Dolphins fans miss Chan Gailey (and that hurts to say). 1st and 10 on your own one yard line and you run a Flat Wide Receiver screen with no shift or additional blocking coming in to support his player. Just doesn’t make sense. In all honesty that was the worst play call I’ve ever seen, at any level, ever. To do that in an NFL game, where you are up by 14 defies everything that Coach Flores wants to create.

    https://phinphanatic.com/2021/09/28/miami-dolphins-head-coach-brian-flores-is-a-looming-tough-decision/

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      The playcalling has been awful at best, but I put more of the blame on Brissett, he’s a vet and is allowed to throw it downfield, so he needs to do that

      Too many assume the 2 OCs isn’t working out, because 2 guys are calling plays, but maybe the problem is we don’t have 1 OC, meaning both are in over their head

      We need a real vet OC, not the dinosaur Gailey, a younger up and coming guy

  49. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    2019 we started out the season as the worst team in history of NFL

    2020 we started 1-3

    2021 1-2

    We talk about Flores this and Flores that, maybe he hasn’t figured out the offseason and training camp yet, but once he’s gotten the team going he’s been pretty good, and he lost his starting QB early week 2

    We can’t assume again we’ll be on a roll soon, but we also can’t say we won’t

    Brissett has been part of the problem for the OL, because he holds the ball too long and doesn’t throw downfield enough

    Something is missing though with this team, we seem to be behind the 8 ball every game physically and that’s on Flores/Grier

  50. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I like the takes over co-OCs but one problem I have with Fansided is their love of Isaiah Wilson. You don’t right the ship by going after players with lots of issues and would be a rookie in all but name themselves. Isaiah Wilson would be a huge mistake and a waste of our time. Much like Josh Gordon will be a healthy scratch or suspended for KC in the playoffs. He literally wants to pull a LeSean McCoy. Sit on the bench and ‘earn’ rings. Smartest thing he’s ever done.

    I don’t mind the OL being terrible as long as I know it’s getting better and the coaching will improve. Both aren’t givens so there is some worry.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Yes, and the problem isn’t the players talent level, there’s no continuity or communication

      Maybe the reason we get off to bad starts is, because Flores keeps moving guys around too much on the OL and it takes them a few weeks to get settled

  51. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    We played the Raiders better than Pitt or Balt did, one FU ref non called PI in the endzone in OT away from winning a game we should’ve won and everyone is talking differently about the Fins

    Doesn’t take away from the issues, but it does buy time to fix them

  52. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  53. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    We have 1.67m in cap space 32 out ot the 32 teams

    Grier being praised for his work, but seems his drafting and use of the cap leaves room for improvement

  54. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      The play was bad, but Brissett is an air head, his lack of situational football at that point in time was just atrocious

      How you lose concentration at that point in the game is beyond me

      Surely that play was practiced by Brissett at some point in his career, with the emphasis on the ball must be lower than wrs head and the ball must be out quick

      Waddle gets some blame too, he should know, that you can’t catch a pass like that in the endzone, if you have to jump to get it

  55. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

      Kind of now see the problem. We should be imposing our will where we can and tricking defenses into giving us the desired matchups. It’s called offense for a reason. We are playing offense as a reaction to the defense instead of forcing the defense to react.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Another problem, trying to get more explosive plays before they have the basic plays down, but every team is trying to get explosive plays, must’ve been a response to what’s with all the dink and dunk bs

      Again it’s on Brissett

      Yesterday I said the OL issues are because of Deiter, meaning he’s responsible for the line calls, so when they say there’s a problem with communication it starts with him

  56. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Game started out 14-0, that tells me Flores had the team’s attention during the week and ready to go

    Expect more of the same this week

    Colts seem to be a mess at QB with Wentz’ ankles and foot problems and the backups have been ineffective

    It’ll be a long season, if we can’t win this one

  57. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    M13,
    I think the o-line issues are being overstated as usghe. I see more issues with the game planning and play calling than the o-line. They aren’t doing well for sure, but the coaches aren’t putting them in the best scenarios. We have all this speed, but I’m still not seeing a lot of separation I’d like for us to commit to running first and foremost and then build from there.

  58. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Have any of you guys read Robin Hobb? I almost picked up Assassin’s Apprentice but for whatever reason I have never picked it up. If you guys have read it let me know what you thought.

  59. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I am currently reading book 3 of “Kingdom of Grit” by Tyler Whitesides. Meh The first two books were Meh too, but I am a junkie and need a fix. LOL Ardor Benn isn’t the most riveting of characters and the whole technological / magical us of dragon shit is a bit of a stretch.

    Meh

  60. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Not trying to have a book club break out on the Dolphins blog. LOL

  61. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I recently ordered Steven Erikson’s Gardens of the Moon book 1 of the Malazan book of the fallen series but it is back ordered. I head that series was good but some said it was a difficult read.

    If I can get through WoT I think I can slog through any “hard reading” Any opinions on Ericson?

  62. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Rock,
    I love the Malazan series. It’s one of my favorite series. But, it is very long and gets boring at certain points. I highly recommend it though. Any series that is 10-12 books long is gonna have low points. By the last couple books I was just wanting to get it done!
    ***
    The Farseer trilogy by Hobb is okay too, but it’s not a favorite of mine.

  63. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Rock, with The Malazan series, don’t get attached to anybody, lol. Fantastic series that really is at it’s best in books 2-5 IMO.

  64. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Just got back from Barnes and Noble. Bought Assassin’s Apprentice. The negative I have read about it on the reviews is that it is slow developing. The book is only 1″ thick. How slow can it be? I’ll be done with it in a week. LOL

    Between Erikson & Hobbs I have 20+ some odd books to read if I like them.

    I need to have some books in front of me or I start getting skittish. I was about to start Re-reading Feist again! LOL

  65. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Rock,

    I want the third the opinion that Malayan is awesome. Great overall series and keeps you reading for a while. It doesn’t focus on one set of characters and might be my favorite series. Hobb is ok. Thanks for the heads up on Whiteside. Was really tempted to buy due to lack on options outside of rereads. Might still live with some meh.

    Kong, were you the person who recommended Prince of iNothing series by Bakker? Whoever mentioned it, it’s been very good. I’m through the intro series and trying to get the rest mailed to me.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Yep, I mentioned it a few months ago. Great series, somewhat ponderous with the philosophy, but strong characters and the Kellhus/ Achamian Kellhus/Cnaiur stories are amazing. I love how dark and bleak the whole damn thing is, not for the faint of heart, lol.

      The 1st trilogy is top notch. The next series, The Aspect-Emperor continues and completes the story, but it’s not as good IMO.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      I’m about 1/4 way into “The Last Lies of Ardor Benn” the third book in the trilogy and I am actively searching for another book…..

      It’s not bad, just Meh.

      I really enjoyed Michael J Sullivan’s “Riyria Revelations” and would have liked to read more about Royce & Hadrian, but he had to go and write a prequel set 1000’s of years earlier as a follow up. The first three books in the revelations were good. The follow up ‘Chronicles’ are good too, but set up as one off reads. His “Legends of the First Empire” while good is almost too different to be in the ‘same world’ and follows a compete different cast of characters who you THINK you know of by reading the “contemporary” Riyrea books. But Sullivan tries too hard to show how different legends are from the actual people who the legends are based upon.

      Overall I say it is worth the $150 to buy / read all his novels.

      • New Age's avatar New Age says:

        I forgot about Mike Sullivan. I really like his work and haven’t read all of it so that’s next on my agenda. I hated he went with prequels too.

  66. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Another series that I read when i was younger that I would read again but it is hard to find in print is Katherine Kurtz’s Deryni books. I don’t know why they are not better known in the genre. If you haven’t read them and can find them. I recommend them / her.

  67. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

  68. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Brady and the Bucs rolling into Foxboro Sunday night. Who gets the advantage from all that past history? The evil genius from all those years of coaching Brady or Brady from all those years of working against Belichick’s D in practice?

    Only thing for sure is that Gronk will have a good time.

  69. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I cannot believe there aren’t more people in the media and in our fan base calling out CB Justin Coleman for his poor play. He is to our Defense what Austin Sackson is to our Offense.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Needham > Coleman, and shouldn’t Iggy at least be good enough at this point to play the slot??? Iggy is trending toward epic BUST… and I’m not talking a HOF bust, either.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Iggy looked REALLY good in the offseason, physically bigger, faster, and stronger. Maybe he just can’t process from the neck up? IDK

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        The life of an NFL CB — much like an NFL RB — is relatively short. If Iggy can’t get on the field now or soon, he too is a BUST.

  70. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    mf13ss says:
    September 28, 2021 at 2:52 pm
    The life of an NFL CB β€” much like an NFL RB β€” is relatively short. If Iggy can’t get on the field now or soon, he too is a BUST.
    —————
    I want to be clear with this statement: it generally takes 3-4 years for a CB to MASTER his position. However, if he can’t get on the field (say, for 50% of snaps in a game), he’s not learning. Iggy isn’t seeing the field enough in order to develop, meaning we don’t have enough trust in him… in his second year.

    Not looking good for Iggy.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      And conversely, we’re giving Austin Jackson every single opportunity to develop, even though he sucks and has cost us games.

      Makes one wonder about both players (Jackson and Iggy), as they were both taken in the 1st round of last year’s Draft.

  71. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    M13 — keep in mind that Iggy is only 21. But if good enough to be drafted in the first should at least be good enough to at least be active. And I’m not worried about outside or slot anymore. Would be great if he’s just out there on special teams.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Yes, I do realize he’s only 21 years old… and that does register with me. I agree with everything else you stated.

      Like the Tuna said: “If they don’t bite as pups…”. It really doesn’t look good for Iggy.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I also tend to think that he’s part of the reason we caved to X and Canter’s request to re-sign X. We KNEW, even then, that we couldn’t rely on Iggy to replace either of X or Byron.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        If Iggy was looking like could step in for X with minimal stepdown, would agree. But we knew when it was going on that wasn’t possible. And don’t think we caved. Think just gave X some save face. Remember he demanded a trade.

  72. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    New Age / Kong, I just spent 3o mins reading the reviews on “goodreads” about the Prince of Nothing series. It is either the best fantasy ever written or complete trash. LOL There was one long winded review / post that basically said both! ha ha

  73. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    We truly are missing Raekwon Davis, guys.

  74. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Rock,

    It really depends on what you like and are in the mood for. Bakker’s stuff is very heavy in it’s philosophy, Tolkien-like in the depth of his world building, there is a lot of character exposition, it deals with very adult themes, and the story is very dark and unforgiving. The characters are complex and their motivations are at times inscrutable, just like real people, lol. It’s never as simple as “let’s go on a quest to get this one thing to save the princess, but we have to fight a dragon first”, lol .

    I think Feist or David Eddings are good authors to compare Bakker to in contrast. Feist is light fantasy, it’s easy reading, lots of action, playful bantering, he likes his characters, the good guys win, etc.

    Eddings is like Feist on steroids. He loves his characters way too much, they take turns beating down the badguys and bantering about it, no one ever dies, everyone gets the happy ending.

    Then you have fantasy like Abercrombie or Gemmell. Terrific characters, not a lot of world building. Fast plot with quick and easy to read action. Nice tight stories.

    Bakker’s kind of story isn’t for everybody. A lot of people read just to escape and don’t want to read a story that is as devastating emotionally as what he’s writing. They slog through the tough stuff and are expecting that resolution or a happy ending, and may feel kind of betrayed when they don’t get it. “Yay, we got the potion and saved the princess. She and the knight will live happily ever after! But wait the Dragon Lords are about to destroy the world, but no, the goodness of humanity rejected them and they’ve been cast back into another dimension. Yay!!” Not in Bakker’s series, lol.

    An author like Feist, I can read Magician thru Darkness at Sethanon in a week or two, I’ll enjoy it, and I can read those two series’ again in 6 months.

    Bakker’s Prince of Nothing, it’ll take me a month or two to read that series, and it’s something I’ll only read every couple of years because it’s heavy and an emotional investment and not a lot of joy or happiness anywhere in that story, lol.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Great explanation. I think you nailed the description of the author’s various writing styles. I loved reading Eddings and read the series through 2-3 times but it is very juvenile. He loves his characters like you said. I tend to enjoy books where I can like / hate the characters and the interplay between them. (bantering)

      If you haven’t read her, Katherine Kurtz is a good mix of character development and political / religious intrigue.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        I enjoyed Kurtz’s Deryni series, solid series I’ll re-read every so often.

        Eddings Belgariad series was my introduction to fantasy along with Weis and Hickman Dragonlance series. I’ll still re-read the 1st two Dragonlance series every once in awhile, but I can’t stomach Eddings anymore, lol.

        Cheers, Rock.

  75. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

  76. MF. i agree with You on Iggy and Sackson, lol

    unfortunately both are top round picks, and not doing much to help the team, with little hope on the horizon for these guys

    but we also have other top picks we arent getting much from too, Tua, Wilkins, Phillips, but i believe those three will show up big for us down the road

    im not sure about iggy and sackson, not sure at all

    but all in all, we have alot of top picks, and not getting enough from them, to win games in the NFL consistantly

    either we have to develop players better, or pick them better, but one way or another we have to get top production from top picks, to be a playoff contender IMO

  77. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Kong,

    You described in much better than I would. It’s like a deeper Abercrombie with less intentional edgy badassery. The exploration of love, trauma, and abuse between CnaiΓΌr and the AnasΓ»rimbors is equal parts disturbing and fascinating. I loved how it ended in Book 3 for Cnaiur and it felt fitting. I enjoyed how they provided Kellhus his original form of superiority. It’s a very interesting take. I also loved when he talked to his father about hearing voices. The interplay between being ‘the ‘Voice of God’ and possible charlatanism is awesome. I look forward to the last 4 books and hate to hear it’s not as good. That first book(or plan) is always the best one, the one you’ve spent the most time honing.

    Rock,

    Like Kong said, this is a disturbing, somewhat depressing series and the good people were left behind in Eddings books. No one is really good in these books. There is nothing else like it though and if you like your fantasy darker with extremely in depth relationship and world building, it’s very good. The main character is almost too powerful but the interactions between characters and the brutal aspects of war and leadership helped offset that for me. . It’s definitely worth reading the first 3.

  78. a first round pick has to make a big impact in the NFL, its common to see for other teams, but not so common to see with Miami

    Waddle is the lone first round pick in a couple years, that has shown he is worthy of it, the jury is still out on the other ones

    but we see guys like Sewell, Harris, and Russeau and other first round pick rookies having success in the NFL, so obviously the coaching in Miami has not been bringing the best from our first round picks

  79. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Rock/Cav, et al – Check out β€œthe Mongolian Cycle” by Greg Bear. All 5 books are out now.

  80. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    I think y’all need to have some kind of book exchange. πŸ“š

  81. ElephantRider's avatar ElephantRider says:

    I don’t read.

  82. im reading how to be Your own Home contractor, lol

    riveting, but i like the chapters on green house construction techniques, and net zero homes

  83. the wildcat is just dumb, it looks like, well, it looks like it should be retired permanently

    it was a successful gimmick in 2008, but that was along time ago

  84. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    https://twitter.com/TomithyTomTom/status/1442905043389206531?s=20
    ————
    Sorry, Old Dolfan… I was remembering our O-Line of ’19 when I said to you that PFF had us ranked as the worst O-Line of last year… not that it really matters! LOL

    Our O-Lines over the years are just saddening!

  85. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Elephant Rider!!! Welcome back, buddy!

    I was asking about you on the blog here a couple of weeks ago!!!

  86. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I have some book suggestions too:

    And of course

  87. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    And Pig’s favorite movie.

  88. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    MF13,
    I’m kinda surprised at your level of disappointment and impatience with these young guys. You’ve said for years around here that it takes 3 years or so for an OL to develop. There is A LOT of bad OL play in this league right now. Philly looked horrible last night.
    ***
    Other than Davis, all these guys are 2nd and 3rd year players. I know they have looked rough. I am a little surprised by how rough it has been so far too….but the stats you posted shows that they really weren’t all that great last year either. Should fans really have been expecting some huge leap forward AFTER we take away 2 vets and a vet QB who saved their asses a lot last year?
    ***
    If they are still looking like they have thus far by the end of the year, I’m probably gonna be right there with you…but I’d like to see how this year goes first. Throw in a first year OL coach, and there’s a lot of learning to be done. We’re gonna find out this season if they can do it or not.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      We’ve got Jackson, Kindley, Hunt and Eich plus maybe the best on the line so far Dieter. Seems we decide want to improve the line after the season that includes kicking to the curb some guys we invested in.

  89. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    What has Gregory Rousseau done that make him a ROTY candidate? Get 2 sacks against our O-line? I’d almost be willing to bet Phillips has more sacks by the end of the season, and he certainly would if he got to play against our O-line twice!

  90. Capt. Stubbs's avatar Capt. Stubbs says:

    Okay, I finally came up out of my hole today after that loss. I saw my shadow. Looks like it’s going to be a long winter. “Groundhogs Day Dolphins “

  91. bookman11's avatar bookman11 says:

    Glad to see the book club is back. Just don’t burn them or draw pictures in them. Return what you borrow in a timely manner joy boys.

  92. Mike, When You see the 1-2 Dolphins on the field, Do You feel that Flores has done everything possible to maximize production from some of our top round picks, like Iggy, Jackson, Tua, Wilkins, Phillips, Waddle?

    or is there alot of room for improvement?

    those guys were talented enough to go in the first round, yet we are getting very few impact plays from this group.

    i have to go with B, there is alot of room for improvement

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Wilkins has been good for us. The jury is still out on the others but they are 2nd year and rookies. When you go really young like we have there are going to be growing pains.

      • agreed, but the jury is NOT out on many other rookies across the league, just the ones in Miami

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        The entire rookie QB class is struggling. I’m sure there are plenty of other positions going through the same thing.

      • since You state the jury is still out, I agree,
        that indicates that Flores has not maximized their production.
        unfortunately, we see many first rounders across the league from the last few years that are making huge impact plays for their teams.

        is there any particular reason other teams are doing it, yet the Dolphins cant?

  93. who made the most impactful plays against the raiders. was it our first rounders?

    nope
    Elandon Roberts Pick six = 6 points
    Zach Seiler had a third down, and a fourth down stop= stopped a scoring drive and gave us a 1st down on offense
    Malcolm Brown had a long rushing TD= 6 points
    fourth and 20 conversion, Brissett to Gesicki, ultimately led to FG in OT

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