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Steve, I’m feeling the same way. It’s hard to keep investing this much year after year.
On another note, big game for us both on Wednesday.
Blah, blah, blah 😉
Hey, you were the one who called it. We probably don’t have that run if you hadn’t predicted it 😉
Today, I called the Grant fumble right before it happened, something like “Now Grant will probably do something stupid”. My wife yells at me “Stop calling the game!”
CK….sorry to and your wife, but I think we all saw it coming….lol!
Yeah, it almost felt inevitable at that point.
Why do they sometimes blow the 12 men on defense play dead and other times they don’t? He said “…in formation…” so is it if the guy is trying to get off the field they let the play run, but if it’s 12 guys lined up to play they kill it?
I hope the Pats get and Brady gets injured in the 4th quarter. Is that wrong 🤷
Lol….it’s funny….
I don’t think it’s wrong…..lol.
Maybe wanting lemonade is wrong…lmao!
Yes it is wrong
Now that is some funny shit right there!
Pats get called for offensive holding but only cause they are playing against Brady.
LOL, 2 holding calls. The Pets have no idea what’s going on?
Belicheat- “Did the league create a new penalty? What is this ‘holding’ you speak of?”
Dang Pats moving the ball to well so they get their second holding call this drive.
Beer you
Mac Jones probably wants to beat Brady in front of the Patriot home crowd more than Belicheat when I think about it.
It’s pretty lame that jagoff Fireman Ed has a national commercial. I’m never using Uber Eats.
Weird game, cheats getting home cooking big tine
I will never waiver my fandom. I need to learn to not get my hopes up every year.
Still time to turn it around! Lol
Belicheat after the game says to Brady nice job, then the cold SOB turns away
1st. 😎
Pats have a lot to look forward to as Mac Jones outshined Brady last night completing 31 of 40 passes when they were seriously one dimensional. Pats had only 8 rushes for -1 yard. Was a cool cucumber in a high profile game on primetime.
We drafted the wrong Bama QB.
I can’t agree with the last sentiment given how we haven’t put Tua in a position to succeed offensively since he’s been here.
I got up this morning at 3:30am to make sure my son left in time to catch his flight from Vegas to Idaho “ no you da ho” He starts training for his new job he really wanted today but he will be gone for 2 weeks. Totally stoked for him and he deserves this position after all his hard work. He’s going to manage the facility out here in Kingman when he gets back. He’s been working for the Harley David Son of bitch dealership out here and was content but he go the call to the big leagues. We’re very proud of him. Shit, now I have to do everything around here for 2 weeks 😳
Congrats to Billy! That’s great news!
Way to go Bill Jr! More than just the Phinpup now.
Well, there’s BUF and then everyone else in our division. Despite the loss to the Bucs, the Patriots arrow is definitely up with Mac Jones. The Jets pull off a gutsy win against the Titans so their arrow is also up. We’re playing with our backup QB and our arrow is way down. We need Tua to come back and play well enough to bring the arrow up again. If that doesn’t happen, it’s going to be a long, sad season for Dolphins fans.
Talk about your own arrow Mike lol
My arrow is down man, it’s getting difficult to watch and put forth so much work and time for this shit
I’m just still glad my arrow still points in any direction 😂🐕
It is going to be a long season and probably a few more as the re-rebuild will take a while. Taking Tua was a mistake, trying to be all fancy and restock the cupboards with multiple trades arounds rather than taking the better player was a mistake. Hiring Grier from within was just letting a cockroach survive the previous burn down / rebuild. Grier needs to go.
BURN IT DOWN!
Dude but we have Brisket, His throwing mechanics alone will take us to the promise land. No need to burn it down yet.
I know it’s hard to do, but separate the emotion away from being a fan of this team. Heck, most of the time I don’t even watch the games live. I didn’t remember the game was on yesterday until it got to be 4:30. Life is fun and you actually have some control over what you do in your daily life. If I was a coach or an executive, then I’d definitely be more involved emotionally, but I’m just a spectator and whatever happens, happens.
After 4 games, Bills scoring 33.5 PPG and allowing 11 PPG. We’re not even on the same planet with them.
Our first two real drives had 20 of the 35 rushing yards for the game. Indy was in the top ten worst run defenses in the league. Our OL has issues pass blocking. Let’s take what the defense has given everyone else? Fuck that, let’s just run the ball 9 total times in the first half. These guys get it.
Besides that, WTF happened with not playing Gaskin?
He finished with 2 carries….wtf
I do t think it would be outrageous to see some firings, demotions, restructure on the offensive coaching staff in the next two weeks.
Maybe they wait for the bye
But the OC situation is ridiculous
I’m not just talking about structure or playcalliing which no one seemed to know the answer to
They just aren’t doing a good job
That’s the sort of change that can be made in the season
Flores needs to take control of how bad the offense is sputtering with this structure and fix it now. It feels disorganized to watch
They don’t know what they are doing. These guys feel like they were hired by the HR department because they can’t seem to match a QB’s strengths to their gameplan. 13 total first downs yesterday. I look at every young QB in the league and see better implementation of their plan. We don’t seem to have any plans much less a specific one to optimize our QB or beat a weekly opponent.
By promoting multiple players in-house in the off-season they basically just gave two guys Chan Gaileys playbook and said run with this….
If they actually hired an outside OC – tHey would have implemented a new offense
I don’t know what these guys are doing
Worse they are reporting the QBs coach is calling tHe plays
It’s like no one wants that job and everyone wants the tItle
I don’t think any any of them were or are qualified tbh. Charlie Batch shouldn’t be calling plays. Does Flores have no one better to even consider? It’s what worries me
I agree
But irrespective of that
Pick one that calls plays Give him the offense
Each assistant is accountable to the coordinator
The OC is accoutable to the coach
The coach is accountable to the owner
This is organization 101
You need to be able to identify problems
Task a person with correcting it
And hold them responsible if they fail
Instead they are experimenting into October
Piggy – If Gaskin was healthy, I can’t comprehend what happened there yesterday. It’s like they made a point NOT to play him, Brown started and then Ahmed got a few touches too.
I think it’s a cursory attempt to run the ball more with a big back
It’s the same reason we see wrs and dbs on the inactive less, the thought going in was that this was going to be a ground and pound kind of game
Then they have know idea how to actually implement it
And then once you are behind late – forget it
The run game grounded and then we got pounded. lol
So who are the top GM candidates out there?
Who can we pick around around pick 20 (not our pick) to that will be better than the wrong handed glass man?
CAN a team find 5 new O line starters in a year?
It is that time of year again. You know October…..
Instead of hiring his buddies, Flores really should have been looking for the next Joe Brady. He’s young but he has a great understanding of QBs, playcalling, and offense overall. These guys look like they came from the local Piggly Wiggly and still stock on weekends.
I feel like almost every NFL team does that though, hire people they’re familiar with. I think the HC’s who have been around a while and have had success and know what to look for do what you think we should do.
I hear the offensive quality control coach from Bowling Green is available. We should jump on him now and sign him to a 10 year 100M contract to be our head coach…
Get on the horn and start trying to trade x Howard now. Might be able to get something like a 4th for Gesicki. We need capitol for the Re-Rebuild. Who else do we have that is worth a crap. Maybe one of the 6 first round picks since ’19? What no one would trade a first for ANY of them? How can that be?
Cockroach needs to be stomped. Grier must go. Bring me the boot.
Failed to get one last time and he was promoted to GM. We need to CLEAN HOUSE not promote losers from within.
I can’t for the like of me figure out the Erick Flowers move this off-season except to say it’s a product of the lack of organization
We’ve played 4 different OLs in 4 games
When you trade him,
You do it believing you have the new OL set don’t you?
This is the kind of thing I think that speaks to organizational dysfunction
Before you trade him, you get the green light from the coach, who received green light from OC who received green light from OL coach
Essentially everyone has to vouch that Austin Jackson is ready and Davis can fill the gap while your rookie develops
But that didn’t happen, and they resorted to moving guys around
Same thing with the back up
If Tua goes down, here are some plays that Brisset does well
And you implement that. It’s not the offense you want
But you being in a back up knowing you won’t be lost on offense if/when he plays
To me, there’s an organizational failure in house
I don’t think it’s a personnel issue
I don’t want to blow it up
But if Flores can’t straighten this out so that the personell choices match the vision for the team, and the coaches reliably communicate and are held accountable for bad decision – then Flores can’t lead this team
For starters, change the structure of the coaching staff so that you have 1 OC who calls the plays. Other offensive coaches answer to the OC.
This sort of stuff has me questioning other moves too like parting ways with Van Noy and McKinney
Im not seeing a team building with a direction, it looks more like improvisation
I’m surprised we moved on from Karras without a solid replacement either.
Yeah that’s another one
I see bacon 🥓🐕
Will ANYONE give us a first round pick for him? No?
We’ve brought new meaning to OC (offensively clueless)
Both guys should be gone, bring back…oh nevermind
This guy knows what has to happen…..He’s not happy about it but he knows……
Be careful what you wish for. Least Florio thinks one the the things that has to be done is trade for Watson.
Florio is an idiot. I wish for a burn to the ground rebuild. Not trading away future picks for a malcontent who has to go to message therapists to get his rocks off.
We have such a young team. I’m not ready to burn to the ground. But maybe I’d feel different if we go say 6-11. Seems an off season Q cause not happening during this one.
That was my reaction and how I felt…and he’s the owner. Yikes!
I’d be up someone’s ass if I had a team, IN ANY PROFESSION, that performed like that….like 2 weeks ago!
Piggy,
Great posts and thanks for articulating so well some of my my concerns as well. You really hit the nail on the head.
Grier paid for experienced talent for a certain timeframe, then you just dump them for unknown potential. If this works perfectly…….That just sounds stupid. Players aren’t even allowed to practice much in pads now so how do you know these new OL will work out quickly? Why didn’t you figure that out beforehand? Flowers, McKinney, Van Noy just seem like wasted money. How didn’t you know KVN has issues with coverage? That Fuller is always injured? That a young OL needs more time? The answers are out there and well known. It definitely feels like a headless chicken Is running this place.
I think we are still paying flowers
It makes no sense
I can understand missing on prospects
And underestimating how much time they need to develop
But trading and cutting guys bc you are confident about your picks is giving people rope to hang you with
Why not just keep them in your roster until your young players are ready
I don’t understand that at all
I know the players need game time experience but keep your insurance policy
I made a post about this a couple weeks back. We kept people like Wilson, Grant, and others making money and not producing, but let guys go for the sake of cap that were non- value added.
SB7,
I remember and had the same concerns. Why keep 7 WRs when the OL looked bad in preseason? Why keep guys with bad hands like Mike E said this past offseason? Why get always injured Fuller? Why keep Wilson who has never had a good NFL season?
It makes no sense to pay the entire contract up front and then just release dudes. It’s bad business. It’s bad talent evaluation. It’s something good teams don’t do.
Andrew Yang announced on Monday that he changed his voter registration from “Democrat” to “Independent,” calling the move a “strangely emotional experience.”
Reports are that he want’s to start his own third party. I actually like Yang. Seems to have a solid head on him and no doubt has been able to assemble a hard-core group of supporters.
Also sounds like he could be the next Ralph Nader though.
The Sun Sentinel fired Omar Kelly today to send a message to the Miami Dolphins. We are not sure what the message was, but we approve…..
it’s time’s like this I wish I had a Twitter account. Then I become sane again before I actually go through with it. .
A lot of the Miami-based media are saying that a firing (whether it be a player or coach) is all but imminent. Coach Flores is certainly safe… it won’t be him, to be sure.
As for players, I think Jakeem Grant is all but gone at this point after his fumble yesterday. As for coaches, I think one of the two OCs (Studesville or Godsey) or Charlie Frye will get the guillotine.
I’ve yet to hear a single, positive thing about Chris Grier over the last 24 hours. Most people think he’s all but a goner at this point. IF he gets the ax, it likely won’t be until late or after the season.
Just getting rid of guys isn’t the answer, we need someone to come in that has a clue
I’d bring back Gailey as an advisor
Biggest problem right now is Brissett, he’s been mostly awful
You can say what you want about the OCs, but really until Brissett starts to throw the ball down field nothing will change
His processing/recognition is just too slow
But how can we be sure that it isn’t the co-OCs who are telling Brissett to dink-and-dunk all day?
WOW, SMH.
https://twitter.com/PFF_RyanSmith/status/1445048476736409601?s=20
why Malcolm brown is starting over Gaskin
As I understand? YES.
https://twitter.com/PFF_RyanSmith/status/1445033155342254083?s=20
Who is Christian Williams? lol
Isn’t Scarlett the dipshit that was offsides on 4th and 3 on a punt that gave Indy a new set of downs and they scored? How the fuck does bonehead shit fit into PFF?
https://twitter.com/PFF_RyanSmith/status/1445040057933565952?s=20
At this point in the NFL, does it even make sense to hire a DC as a HC unless he has a proven option for OC in his pitch? I hate to say it, but the NFL promotes offense so heavily that your franchise seems to start with a handicap. Flores and Boyer have a really solid defense but it doesn’t translate does it? That Steelers D? The Rams with amazing AD?
I really like Flores but but a major part of being HC is having a good staff. I’m not sure how many are good at their jobs. Our RBs have sucked so you promote the RB coach? Your OC last year had great ties to Fitz, so you bench Fitz and never change up the offense for the new guy? You then promote two dudes to continue using an offense not really suited for the new QB? Does any of that make sense? If Tua is a good RPO QB, why isn’t the offense more like the Ravens? Or the Cardinals?
The biggest problem is who can Flores bring in to fix the offense? It doesn’t seem like anyone anywhere wants the real job. As Piggy said, just give me the title please
There’s certainly some level of dysfunction going on with our staff: I completely agree with both you and Pig.
I can’t help but feel as though this is a great example of a beaurocracy.
Rockphin says:
October 4, 2021 at 2:18 pm
why Malcolm brown is starting over Gaskin
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As I understand? YES.
And I want to elaborate on this good point you make, Rockphin. Austin Jackson has sucked so badly that when it was a pass-play, most often Malcolm Brown came over to help him. Yes, even the coaches realize that Jackson is a liability to us… yet we keep putting him out there. Why? There doesn’t seem to be a better option in-house, and that should scare the shit out of us.
So in essence, we’ve had to take one of our best playmakers and best RB (Gaskin) out of the game, in order to help our defunct O-Line with Brown. SAD!
After rewatching some highlights it appears guys are pressing, trying to make a play, instead of just playing
That Harry high school play, offsides on the punt, that lead to the first Colts TD was as bad as it gets, you don’t do that bs with 4th and less than 5
Whoever jumped should be in the doghouse, if not cut outright
That offsides was the worst of all. And whether the guy gets cut depends on how good he is. Talent = chances.
Brennan Scarlett, right?
We’ve played 4 of 17 games.
We all knew the first 5 were real tough.
Tua has played one game (a win) plus a couple series.
Tua should be back game 6,
Seems time to just see what happens….. and what other choice do we have?
I hear ya, I truly do. But playoff teams don’t allow winnable games like yesterday to end up as a loss. I mean, the Colts played with many 2nd teamers due to the plethora of injuries they sustained to starters the week prior.
No way should we have lost that one… with or without Tua, man.
I thought to be a playoff team we needed to go 2-3 through that tough 5. 3-2 and would have been like “on our way.” Maybe we just aren’t a playoff team, thought that was 50/50 from the start anyhow.
mf13ss says:
October 4, 2021 at 1:48 pm (Edit)
A lot of the Miami-based media are saying that a firing (whether it be a player or coach) is all but imminent. Coach Flores is certainly safe… it won’t be him, to be sure.
As for players, I think Jakeem Grant is all but gone at this point after his fumble yesterday. As for coaches, I think one of the two OCs (Studesville or Godsey) or Charlie Frye will get the guillotine.
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They should clean up the oc situation so that going forward it’s 1 oc, and he’s calling the plays
That’s the only big change I want right now
But honestly, they should know better and it shouldn’t take into October to undertand what a bad idea it is to expirment this way
I’m just worried about our future now when they don’t think things like that through and need to see or fail
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EXCELLENT!!!
Need Bryon J in there.
So they were never sure about Jackson
SMMFH… WOW!
I’ll tell ya this! I’m sure that Austin Sackson SUCKS!!!
I DO think Jackson needs to move inside… he’s getting SLAUGHTERED at the Tackle position. Perhaps he can salvage his career as a Guard.
We were all focused on Tua, and his little play he was OK if not great. Austin Jackson has been the bummer of the season. Why can’t he play like he did last year?
His play seemed to be masked with the help of vets on the line. Vets that are now gone.
Could be true. But sometimes think the “sophomore slump” is about kids in their early 20’s feeling like they “made it” and enjoying all that money they have to spend. And must be a great offseason for them at that age. They are a god with their friends.
I think they were but he’s been so bad they had to rethink it. He played LT all of last year. If they were never really sure about Jackson, it’s probably time to start over. Holy shit, how do you draft a guy 18th and not know if he’s going to at least be a good OT? How could you play him for over a year without knowing? They can’t be that bad.
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Like most of us have been saying, it’s early in the year and we’ve been a team that plays better as the season goes on. We even have an extra game this season to help that come true again. If we can’t course correct and make some sort of an improvement with our offense in the next coming weeks, then I’m afraid we aren’t looking at a playoff shot this year.
There is still time to right the ship though, but right now it’s not looking good. Expectations are too high this year given the improvement in year two and I don’t have the faith this year given the offseason moves they made that have obviously set us back. We’ll see.
I don’t even care about this year after this week’s debacle. I worry about the talent at the coaching level and their ability to teach these kids how to play. Outside of the defense, has anyone really improved? Maybe Gesicki but he was pretty talented coming out of PSU.
This is Year 3. Rhule is on Year 2 and Kingsbury is on Year 3. McDermott on Year 3 was awesome. There has been some time spent to get this franchise moving forward and we are regressing. Is the FO and coaching staff making the right decisions when Jakeem Grant was given an extended contract or Flowers let go? I hear coach-speak but I don’t see an identity outside of good defensive coverage. That isn’t going to cut it next year either. A team doesn’t win with the best CBs in the game but no offense or run defense. You know, last year’s problems.
This explains why we poached Austin Reiter.
Can’t we poach a Tackle better than Austin Jackson?
sb7mvp says:
October 4, 2021 at 3:02 pm
His play seemed to be masked with the help of vets on the line. Vets that are now gone.
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I agree with this 100%, SB7.
Brissett has been a total dumpster fire. That guy suuuucks. The only thing he does marginally well is to create some extra time in the pocket. But what does it matter how much time you have if you can’t see the open guys, and aren’t capable of throwing a catchable ball 10 yards down the field? How many bad throws did we see from him in the 5-10 yard range? If he could hit a short out route, we’d have been up at least two scores before the Colts even get on the board.
Then throw in Scarlett Brennan’s moronic offsides on special teams, and this might have been a different game.
I know there is some hope with Tua coming back after next week, but how long is he going to stay alive back there? Teams know he has busted up ribs, and they’ll go after him. Brissett at least has the size to take the beating even if he can’t hit the broadside of a barn.
For Tua, if our oline plays well enough to help limit those hits, he might be ok. And while we’re wishing for things that probably won’t happen, maybe we’ll go undefeated the rest of the season too.
Cav Kong,
I’m NO Brissett defender/apologist, but here was his line yesterday: 66.67 COMP%, 199 passing yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs, and a 107.5 passer rating.
Here’s the question: is it on Brissett for checking down, or is it on our play-calling for checking down? Maybe it’s on our O-Line for HAVING to check down.
Seems Tua was checking down in week 1, as well.
The common symptom? Our O-Line… which got Tua killed in week 2.
It just goes to show that stats like passer rating don’t mean squat. And most of his yards came in ‘garbage time’.
I’m flabbergasted that those were his numbers when he was so terrible. What was his completion percentage on 3rd down? How many times did we see him throw the ball in the dirt on that important down?
^ Agreed, Cav Kong. Waiting for Stanger to reply to me just below.
How many yards did he have in the first half when our offense was set up with good field position again and again vs how many in the 4th quarter when the game was out of reach?
LOL, 107 passer rating? That is insane. Every time he threw the ball the first 3 quarters it was a check down to the offensive right side. It was like clockwork. The Colts gave us that all day.
And I’m not railing at you, I know you were just throwing the numbers out there as a counter. 🙂
Brissett is a back-up QB. What should we expect? Fitz was different and that’s why he is a starter now.
What got me was we were behind and all of a sudden we were moving and scoring. And was about more than a prevent D.
EXACTLY, Stanger!!!
So who is to blame for not taking shots deep earlier? Do you understand what I’m sayin’?!
Even Jay Feely kept on saying throughout the game, starting in the 1st QTR: you’ve GOT to take shots downfield if you’re Miami. Once a quarter, go deep to DeVante Parker or Mike Gesicki.
We never did until we absolutely HAD to, in order to come back. Who is to blame for this, is what I’m asking? Why didn’t we take shots earlier?
What should we expect? I want at least 200 yds and a passer rating of at least 108 out of my backup QB. 🤣🤣
Honestly though, it’s a fair question. If the rest of the team wasn’t such a cluterf^ck as well, we’d probably be saying Brissett has done an ok job holding down the fort as the backup. Backups are supposed to suck.
Lemuel Jeanpierre isn’t beyond scrutiny, either. All these early picks for his O-Line, and he can’t get it together.
CavalierKong says:
October 4, 2021 at 4:13 pm
And I’m not railing at you, I know you were just throwing the numbers out there as a counter. 🙂
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As I replied to you, I AGREE with you!
Okay, the reason Brissett ‘sucked’ through 3 QTRs of the game yesterday, yet still ended up with a 107.5 passer rating?
He HAD to throw short, due to our O-Line behaving like turnstiles… and THAT’S why Malcolm Brown got the start over Gaskin.
After 3 QTRs of football and with a double-digit lead? The Colts played like our Defense does… keep everything in front of you. Their pass-rush wasn’t nearly as intense, their coverage wasn’t nearly as intense, and Brissett was actually able to get a few deep passes off… unlike the first 3 QTRs of the game.
Our O-Line almost looked good enough by the 4th QTR to render itself worthy of the NFL… it was all an illusion during the 4th QTR.
As Cav Kong corrected stated above, it was ‘garbage time’ for our Offense in the 4th QTR.
Short and sweet: it’s our O-LINE!!!
I’ll preface this with I haven’t rewatched the game and don’t plan to, so my analysis could be off because my first watch is always clouded by emotion and ball watching.
I didn’t feel like our oline was nearly as horrible in pass pro yesterday as they were the last couple of games. We still had some issues, and Jackson was as bad as he’s been all year, but I thought Brissett had time this game, but he couldn’t see the open guys downfield and consistently missed on throws that would keep drives alive.
In the 4th, I felt it wasn’t so much that he had more time as it was he just started throwing the ball up to Parker whether he was open or not, and the occasional Gesicki pass. Maybe he has been coached up to not take those chances early on because we were playing it conservative and didn’t trust the oline. I can easily see that, thinking our D would keep us in a low scoring game.
And maybe I’m wrong and our oline was just as bad. They certainly weren’t good, no matter how you slice it, lol.
If/when you rewatch the game, you’ll realize that Malcolm Brown got the start due to our O-Line woes. Brown tried to mitigate the terrible play of Austin Jackson.
Have they fired Chris Grier yet?
No?……………….
I’ll check back later.
I think we are still paying flowers
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Yes Piggy. I SMH every time I think about it. We were stuck with 8 mil of his contract this year and only got a swap of 7th round picks for him.
So basically we spent 8 mil to move up about 9 spots in the 7th round and lose a solid starting LG.
That was a masterful move, Grier. Just masterful.
And as it currently stands, Grier’s three 1st rounders in the 2020 NFL Draft…
Tua: IR
Jackson: Turnstile
Iggy: healthy scratch on gamedays
Flowers was the type of nasty OL vet our OL needed and he made Jackson better year one. Remember, he took Jackson under his wing. Then, we throw out Jackson’s mentor like a piece of garbage. Maybe Jackson is playing butt hurt about losing his mentor.
Nah, I don’t believe for a second that Jackson is playing “butt hurt” over losing his mentor, man. I think Jackson wasn’t yet ready to fly on his own without adequate help beside him. JMO
None of it makes any sense even judging generously and saying “the young players will get better”
Even if these aren’t bad picks on the OL, why remove the safety net….and still pay for the net no less
What is the justification of that move?
Cap savings? That’s all I’ve got.
Was it worth it? NO.
And obviously, being we’re still paying Flowers…
But they didn’t need those savings in 2021 as far as I can see
Did they really have to make that move now?
Jackson, more than anything else isn’t ready
When he was drafted, he was expected to be raw
So that’s clearly still an issue
Maybe he never will be ready. We don’t have to worry about where he will be in a year when we know he’s not ready now
I think most people can agree with that.
I don’t want to call him a bust or be overly critical of his okay. I see a young player who was expected to be raw
Whether or not a player that raw is worthy of a 1st rounder is debatable but I dont question the pick or the player. I question why they went forward with him penned in as a starter so confidently that they traded Flowers for virtually nothing
Sometimes there are just BAD picks that don’t turn out. We’ve seen R1P1 players bust out very quickly in the NFL.
I picked Austin Jackson @ R1P18 in my 2020 mock Draft… perhaps I was wrong about him as well.
I say move him inside for the time being and allow him to develop there. There could come a time where he’s ready for Tackle in the future… but it sure as hell isn’t in the here and now.
And before anybody jumps on me about, “well what about this cohesion (gel time) you keep talking about and moving people around is bad?”.
Clearly, Austin Jackson is NOT our answer at Tackle in the year 2021, and it’s a bloody shame somebody on our staff thought that he could be.
Make the change NOW, and don’t look back. This should have been ascertained back in training camp, for crying out loud!
I do question at that point. You pick a LT you think he is ready to start. That’s on the front office except for what I think…. he’s just sorta doing a Ricky walkabout. Can’t predict that.
The Flowers move only saved 2 mil.
Not worth it, IMO! I’m right there with ya and Pig.
Yes, we should have kept Brandon Flowers.
That’s not really justifiable as a salary cap move IMO
You have to wonder if there was some sort of conflict with Flowers and they just wanted to move him off the team, because it really doesn’t make much sense.
M13
I’m pretty sure they are going to move him inside
And that’s fine. Sometimes that’s what you do with OTs that don’t work out
And Hunt is experienced at RT, so it’s not so bad
Between Eichenberg at LT and Hunt at RT, maybe they find the magic combo
But the problem is, it’s October and we don’t get the last 4 games back. The team shouldn’t have to overcome shooting themselves in the foot.
Teams hit and miss on draftees all the time and get past it. That’s not a problem. But there’s just so much weird moves
Im not a burn it all down type
But I want the team to have people in the FO that exercise good judgment and there’s a bunch of head scratchers lately
EXACTLY, my man! I feel the same way!
Maybe a subtle way of saying stop moving me around and let me learn a position…
M13, My pick at the Jackson spot was OLB/Edge K’Lavon Chaisson who went to Jax at #20. He only has 5 starts in 20 games with 1 sack and 10 qb hits.
We’d probably be grumbling about my pick also. lol
With the Iggy pick, I wanted OC Cesar Ruiz who is the starting center for the Saints now. After the first 6 games last year he became their starting OC and been the starter since.
That one I would have gotten right.
IMO, your history is VERY good, BBM! Cesar Ruiz would have been a great pick.
We’re all discouraged with our team right now and rightfully so. I guess we’ll just have to see where they go from here.
Gotta run for a bit. BBL
The LG will moved on from in the offseason was Ereck Flowers, not Brandon. 😉
Could be worse
Urban Meter could be our coach
Jackson was a VERY raw draft pick. There were several who suggested he was picked too high, but his athleticism was seen as good enough to take a chance on him. There was also discussion that he may not even be able to start for a couple years. I think some fans may be underestimating just how undeveloped he was. He had several bad technique issues that aren’t getting a whole lot better, unfortunately.
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Even though I wasn’t a fan of drafting the kid where we did, he has prototypical athleticism and size for a LT. If he can work through his hand placement issues and get his feet under him, he could be good. Remember, these young guys haven’t gotten the same sort of reps and practice that rookies and young players normally get. I’m not saying he will or won’t be anything…but you need to see how he develops this season. It’s way too early to give up on the kid, to me. This team is still in development mode. Let’s see if these young guys do.
Gonna let them do what they do, but if he was two years away shouldn’t have been going at #18,
i think the talent is there, but the talent isnt being coached up,
the coaches are horrible, Miami looks like the worst team in the NFL now
its the third year for Flores, the honeymoon is over,
Ross fires coaches that cant do shit by year 3.
this team wasnt rebuilt, it was destroyed.
this is likely it for Flores and the half dozen amateur OC’s he brought in
Well that hurts!
They have to hang out together. Think pretty clear Eich wants to be the RT….. so fits with that as well.
We signed a center
I guess because Deiter is out.
if i were Ross, i would fire Flores and the OC’s now, and try to find someone more capable
the rebuild didnt happen.
Flores is wasting time and money, he looks stupid and clueless
how he keeps the same OC calling plays after the Waddle safety, is proof that its all broken, with no hope.
that was the dumbest play call i have seen in 20 years or more!
i dont see the Dolphins winning more than 2 more games all season.
im still a Dolphin fan, but i know this team is still years away from competing, we will need all new coaches and a few more players
Wow you can really flip your opinions about people in a flash.
its taken 4 weeks, but yea, the Dolphins look like the worst team in the NFL right now, didnt take them long to reveal who they are
They were 1-3 last year too. We’ll see if they can turn the season around again.
this year is different, the team took a huge step backwards this year
we had a defense last year, a better play caller, and 2 qbs that were better than brissett
i seriously doubt the team will beat the bucs, so the bleeding will continue for awhile
What was the purpose of signing Greg Little? Depth, I know. If he can’t play better than Jackson is now, he should not be on the roster.
Who knows we might make some changes on the OL along the way and then fans will say we’re not letting them develop and moving guys around too much.
One of my biggest issues is why did we wait so long to start attacking down the field like we saw with Parker but way too late? Jay Feely was pointing that out the entire game.
stanger,
That’s debatable. You see teams draft athleticism and not much else quite often now. Even as far back as Tannehill. He had 19 games at QB in college? Yet, lots of folks thought he was a top half of the first sort of pick. Phillips this year was another guy that was drafted mostly on potential not consistent production. It happens a lot. I’m not saying it’s good or bad….just that it happens a lot more than it used to. Teams expect high picks to play right away now even if they aren’t ready.
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The coaches are putting Jackson out there and seeing if he has what it takes. It’s up to him to prove to them that he does. We’ll see.
That first contract is only so long….. which yeah make me think of inactive Iggy drafted as a little pup. And yeah we’ll see what happens with Jackson. What gets me is he isn’t as good as he was last year. I like that Eich was a 4-year starter. Might not have that high upside but hoping he is ready to play.
stanger,
I don’t pay much attention to contract stuff. I have no idea how long Jackson’s even is. Don’t most high first rounders sign 4 year deals with that 5th year option thing?
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One way or another, we should all hope Jackson pans out. Eich may not be an NFL LT, and we have nobody in the pipeline.
Yes on 1st round contracts.
Anyone going to the Metlife Jets game? My daughter bought us tickets for that weekend.
I’m not even sure I want to go to the Fest game! lol
No worries, o rob will take your tickets! I know you’re full of shit on this comment though, so please keep your comments on a cliff note level. I’m still drinking as if it were Sunday at 4:00pm lol
I wasn’t planning on going but I might be interested. Maybe we’ll get a crew together for the game. If the Jets are ahead of us it may be tough to score tix though, and that’s possible at this juncture.
If there is going to be a group from the blog I can possibly be talked into going
Don’t forget your vax passport. lol
Wait game is actually in NJ right?
Damn, you guys are tough!!! Austin Jackson just turned 22, he was 20 when we drafted him. I honestly doubt he will moved inside. He has the athleticism to play LT and he will either be 1st string LT or backup LT. Why put him at guard if he’s worse there than the guy there already, which is highly possible? Flores needs to be fired? Holy fuck, take a valium!! lol
LOL
It’s the syndrome of ‘in times of trouble, jump ship’. I’m not happy so fuck you all. Kind of like our country. SMH
I don’t think Flores needs to be fired but needs to really figure out the struggles on offense. Our defensive issues are, IMO, due to being on the field to much.
Tim, I don’t know why they weren’t attacking downfield from the get go.
Our defensive game plan seems to be attack, bend but don’t break.
Our offensive game plan? I’m not sure. In the offseason, the OC’s said they had a game plan for long sustained drives with the ability for the big play. Flores also stated he wanted to win TOP this year. That’s why I keep bringing up TOP during and after games.
Sounds like a good idea but, for some reason, our offense can’t execute it very well. After our initial drives, opposing defenses quickly adjust then nothing works. Then we open up and attack when it’s to late. On O, D and ST there is a lot of stepping on our on toes in games as well.
Offense seems to be playing confused.
Lots of issues with this team right now. They can’t play complimentary football. The offense scores, the defense gives it right back. The defense gets two stops in a row and you get a muffed punt for a TO and an off-sides for a 1st down when they were punting. The offense also does not make enough chunk plays.
For me we’re not playing our game but just trying to survive and pull off a close win. Maybe that’s because the coaches are not overly confident in our personnel. I don’t know. But it doesn’t look good. And regardless of what you think about Tua, Brissett is the backup and looks the part.
Flores is the HC, he’s ultimately responsible for all of it. We’ll see.
I agree, please bail me out bailbondmike. Although my bail bond guys name is Joey. Knock on wood I hope I don’t ever need to call either of you!! lol
lol
They should just have a wheel like “wheel of fortune ” with plays on it . Bring a random fan out and let it ROLL!!!
That might just work!
I’m just thinking it’ll be like the prices right! “Come on down”!! It’s me want to buy a ticket to the revolving rebuilding dolphins!
Makes above lol English drunk and high major am I not.. lol
Soooo the Monday night game is delayed due to lightning…. however everyone is still on the field skipping around like this is on the set of “Annie “wtf!! come fishing down here in the summer if you want a lightning delay. Keep those rods low everyone
And it’s a DONE ?! WTAF
DOME
Lmao
This is why the idiom that “it all starts in the trenches” has validity. If you aren’t stable on the LOS, it affects everything. The OL has looked shaky for sure, but this group of young guys are gonna sink or swim this year. When Flores or another coach says they run a developmental program, this is what that looks like. They are trying to develop players…and it’s gonna look ugly before it gets pretty with so many young guys at once.
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By the way, our RBs haven’t looked great. Our TEs haven’t looked great. Our QBs haven’t looked great. Our OCs look lost. Our WRs keep dropping passes. Other than maybe Waddle and Parker, has anything on offense looked good?
I heard the Gatorade is amazing!!!
I honestly feel like Flores tinkers too much. However I feel he learns, obviously as it goes along. I know he’s not going to bed saying ahhhh that was great, another loss. Maybe he doesn’t really understand his experiments until the 4th or 5th week. Or rock, paper and scissors isn’t working that well this year
It’s looked like too much overthinking at times. What Brown was the key to beating the Colts over playing Gaskin more? Was he hurt? All of a sudden it was Ahmed who didn’t play last week. But it’s a lot of things. Backup QB, young OL not there yet, other positions looking like they’re still finding their way. I’ve said it before… too new and young too fast.
Capt,
I hear these guys are so pampered at the pro level it has the blood of virgins in it. Lol
Lmao!! I see why you have a bucket
Capt,
As a fan, I really have no idea how much influence Flores has or doesn’t have either during the week or on game day. Does he put a guy in a job and then let him be…especially on offense if he sees himself as a defensive guy? Or is he a micromanager? My guess is he’s evaluating these coordinators and coaches too. How can you make a valid assessment if you’re in there influencing them constantly?
Totally agree with you. I haven’t any idea wtf is going on. Like you though, we are just crazy fans! I just see, in my eyes these are coaching issues. Our coaches maybe be great now. Doubt it…however I believe this is now our 5th OC in 3 years hmmm. Others coaches as well
Capt,
When I see so much confusion and undisciplined sort of play, I always think coaching. It’s just not normal for a whole bunch of guys to be bad all at once. The thing is, most OCs don’t do much actual coaching. So, are we getting poor unit level coaching, on the OL for instance, or is the play design and play calling going on from the OCs so bad it’s making everything look disjointed? Or, both?
That’s where I’m feeling I believe across the board on our other coaches in general are being replaced more than most teams. However everybody sees Flores as to blame and rightfully so. I think possibly we have up and coming coaches, although I believe we’re feeling the pain of their rookie or sophomore seasons
I hate watching other teams play. They are exciting to watch.
On Monday, Flores was asked about making changes in hopes of creating better results. He said the team is evaluating things, but won’t make “wholesale changes” like altering the way co-coordinators George Godsey and Eric Studesville put together the offense.
Brian Flores says he’s not changing the play-calling system. “I like the system that’s in place,” Flores said. “I like our process.
he LIKES the playcalling, totally unaware that the playcalling, system, and process is fatally flawed
Fins traded Minkah Fitzpatrick , for a draft pick we used for Austin Jackson
its no wonder the team sucks, its time to end the Grier and Flores show
You guys go way too far to one side or the other. If we had eeked out a win against Indy none of this shit would be said. It’s just one more game in a 17 game season. You guys ever play organized sports and the team starts off slow and then things come together? They’ve played 4 games so far, and I can say we haven’t looked great in any of them, but we did lose our starting QB early in Game 2 so that counts. I also know that many of you don’t think much of Tua but I’m not in that boat. Flores came from NE where nothing is fancy. They also had a very heavy veteran influence in NE and here in MIA, we have a very young team. If you ask me who I’d rather have on the field, KVN or Jaelan Phillips, or even AVG, I’d take our two guys every week! I’m hoping they clean up some of the issues but blowing it all up or firing the coaches is way premature.
flores team has started slow the last 2 years add that to the tough 5 game stretch to start this season
Minkah FitzFuckFace asked for a trade, he got it. Good riddance to that pussy fuck! By the way, he has a 29 rating by PFF this season. 15 targets, 10 receptions allowed, zero INT’s.
if i have any complaints about Ross, it’s that he keeps hiring first time NFL coaches, the jury is certainly still out on Flores however if a decision in the future is to be made regarding him being removed, Ross should stop doing what he’s been doing, he should wait and bide his time, let flores keep running this team until a solid veteran HC coach is released, then make his move.
we could’ve had Andy Reid or a Rivera coaching this team.
there’s a head coach learning curve and if he keeps hiring guys with no HC experience it’s more than likely the team will struggle.
another mistake was removing Fitz last year, Tua was not the best man for the job at that point. you have a winning combo in gailey and fitz, you disrupt that combo and noww look at you.
if we kept that combo last year i’m certain we would have made the post season.
Fitz was not taking this team anywhere. Was he better than Tua, maybe, but he wasn’t good enough to take this team deep into the playoffs. He was pretty Jekyll and Hyde or Fitzmagic/Fitztragic like he was his most of his career
we’ll never know, he was certainly good enough to get us to the playoffs, I believe we win the Denver game had Fitz started and that would’ve put us in the post season.
Mike E. says:
October 4, 2021 at 7:43 pm
I’m not even sure I want to go to the Fest game! lol
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No leftwing Fest for me, without a Biden cap or Hillary campaigne Badge, i’m not qualified
C’mon now Rob, I think politically it will be pretty close to even. They said I can wear an Andrew Yang cap since he’s a former Democrat and now Independent.
your walking a tightrope though, they are trying to make you fall to their side, Where a Trump hat and see if they let you have any diarrhea Tacos.
The diarrhea taco is the trump hat
I thought it was the diarrea taco bowl
The Offense is offensive. That is known. But I also have an issue with the way the guys are playing on Defense. They have instilled this culture of “take the ball away” which is great, you know, if they actually take the ball away. Instead what I am seeing is the other teams offense constantly getting 2,3,4 more yards on a play as our players hold them up for another defensive player to try and strip the ball. Fumble recoveries are great. Giving up first down after first down by holding the player up off the ground is not and they need to stop the bull shit. TACKLE THE PLAYER TO THE GROUND. If you can jar the ball loose, great do it. But stop this BS of not tackling a guy so you can try to strip the ball.
Well if I meet anyone at the Jets game, I won’t hold your political affiliations against you because I’m an adult.
Really! Since when?
A soaring eagle could never explain to its shadow what it’s like to be three dimensional.
I don’t think I’m gonnn make The MetLife takeover this year. Buts it’s a good time. Lots of Dolfans. Enjoy
Someone didn’t like my Taco bowl post and decided to remove it? Ok floor is yours. Good bye.
It’s there
Your post is there
When stuff happens on this board you can’t explain….. first place to go shouldn’t be conspiracy theory. This crew is screwed up enough as is. 🙂
Jakeem traded to Bears
We got the better end of that deal
No help on offense, and apparently still good for 2-3 fumbles a year on returns- see ya!
Really no room for him on this team anymore
Waddle can handle his special team duties
I never thought he’s make the final 53. Same time he is a good guy and and had some nice plays for us. He gave it his all but couldn’t help he was born with small hands.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/what-was-going-on-with-steve-belichicks-tongue-last-night/ar-AAP7MSP?li=BBnb7Kz
I noticed this and thought at the time that he looked a lot like some tweakers I used to know when I used to know tweakers, lol.
The mullet doesn’t help…
If his dad wasn’t the coach he would be “working” under a bridge near you…
Trading deadline is 4:00 p.m. ET on November 2. Four weeks till the Watson trade speculation stories are done. Unless its actually happened of course. 🙂
Do we trade for some veteran o-line or keep allowing the guys a trial by fire?
Although needed I think we stay status quo, keep trying to develop these guys.
SB7,
I think we might as well stick with what we have. If your plan was to give experience, no reason to give up after 4 games. If we fans aren’t supposed to give up this early, I can’t imagine a reason the guys who implemented this plan and thought it was good idea should give up.
Grant was traded 😃