GAMEDAY!!! Panthers @ Dolphins

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  1. herdfan says:

    All this math you’re doing on here is taking all the fun out of football.

    • steveccnv says:

      Football is math, and why I like math

      When I was 4 I knew my times tables for multiples of 7, for some strange reason😉

  2. Tim Knight says:

    The page turned. Well done, M13. LOL

  3. pheloniusphish says:

    SBJ – This POS plays the victim card even better than ORob!

  4. CavalierKong says:

    Tua is 17th in passer rating

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Tua is 1st in Pork Rating

      • CavalierKong says:

        LOL, are you pathologically incapable of simply admitting when you’re wrong? You know nothing bad happens, right? It doesn’t make your d!ck smaller, make you grow nipples on your face, or anything like that.

      • ocalarob says:

        what? he’s tied with Mahomes, so you anoint him above Mahomes?
        at least i’m calling it a tie

      • CavalierKong says:

        Exactly, it’s a tie. Mahomes and Tua have 16 people ahead of them, so both are ranked 17, not 18, not 17.5.

      • ocalarob says:

        what’s more accurate? both at 17.5 or just deeming Tua at 17 with no mention of being tied with Mahomes, take off the Tua tagavasunglasses will ya?

      • CavalierKong says:

        Why would I have to mention Mahomes? He isn’t ahead of Tua, plain and simple.

        You say Tua has to be in the top 10 by your standard and you incorrectly had him at 18 instead of 17; it is in plain black and white and indisputable that you where wrong, but instead of just saying “my bad, he’s 17th”, you deflect and argue. Is it genuinely that difficult?

      • ocalarob says:

        who’da thunk Tua would be tied with Mahomes at this juncture anyway? just goes to show you what a shitty season KC is having.

      • ocalarob says:

        I was going by what Pro Reference had him at, they said he was at 18, who cares it still blows!
        semantics!
        read it and weep.

        https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/passing.htm

      • CavalierKong says:

        It’s not semantics, it’s a significant step closer to that mythical 10th spot.

        If Tua has to jump 7 people to get to #10 instead of 8 people, that’s a 12.5% difference.

      • ocalarob says:

        Maybe they put Mahomes ahead of him because he’s avg 290 YPG vs Tuas 212 YPG.
        those 1 yard passes don’t add up too quickly ya know.

      • ocalarob says:

        I would love to see Tua get in the top 10 in passer rating! then you can say we have a good QB. I don’t see that happening.

        we’re playing easy teams and the D has came alive. the start of the Carolina game was Dreadful offensively until we blocked that punt and X picked that ball.

        you’re being fooled into thinking Tua is responsible for the win.

        he has improved I’ll give him that. he seemed to take charge of the offense, i had seen him yelling at Jackson for a false start.

      • CavalierKong says:

        It’s actually some random placement.

        If you toggle it back and forth with another stat, you’ll see sometimes Tua is ranked 17th and Mahomes 18th. It also happens at 10th place with Allen and Jimmy G, lol.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I don’t get the arbitrary ’10th’ spot thing. There are 14 playoff spots, so shouldn’t that be the standard? But even so, Tua is only 5 points away from the 10th spot. Two good games could put him there or one amazing game. I find it hard to believe that if Tua has an amazing game against the Giants and reaches that 10th spot that you’ll suddenly change your view of him.

        But either way, he’s only 16 games into his career, and he’s trending upward. Would you have the same expectation of any other rookie QB, that they be a top 10 QB by the end of their first year?

      • CavalierKong says:

        Lawrence is ranked 31st 11 games into his career, just ahead of your guy Brissett at 30…

  5. son of a son of a shula says:

    This has been bothering me. I want to know why Home Depot makes me go to Lowe’s to get Mineax products. Home Depot is better for me, easier, closer and I’m used to it. But they kicked out Minwax for Valspar. Yeah, who?
    Just like I’m a Home Depot man, I’m also a Minwax man. Kicking out Minwax is like a grocery store kicking out Campbells Soup. How can you have a grocery store without Campbell Soup?
    How can you have a hardware store without tried and true Minwax products?
    The pain is real.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Well I was bummed when these tasty cookies weren’t on the shelves in any stores anymore.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        I think they made Tid bits you don’t see them any more either.
        I’m really talking about an entire product lines. Stains of various colors, polyurethane in satin semi and gloss and on and on different sizes. The whole line is gone.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I hear ya, there are lots of stores that don’t carry common brand products anymore.

  6. son of a son of a shula says:

    I made hay with Minwax dammit

  7. ocalarob says:

    How can they move Ok st in front of Notre dame? both are 11-1
    Ok st lost to a non ranked team Iowa st, ND lost to #3 Cincy.
    i wonder if it has anything to do with Kelly leaving ND?
    you kinda lose credibility making this move

  8. Tim Knight says:

    With all the issues our offense has had this year, Tua and the rest of the guys who are playing seem to be building some more consistency. That is normal because these guys don’t really have a body of work playing together as a team. That said, we do have a void of talent in a few areas and we need to add upgrades in the off-season. I think we could go play with the same defense we have now next season. The offense needs more work. That doesn’t mean replacing everyone, but adding better players that also makes our depth better. We need a few more special talents on the OL, RB and WR.

  9. Tim Knight says:

    As for passer ratings, some of the pct. points are so minimal they’re more in groups as opposed to a linear list. One great game vs. a bad game can flip a lot of these guys. The ratings are mostly about a level of play and consistency. We all know Tua had some rough games and injuries. He’s ascending and that’s what you want to see. Some QBs go backwards. But like we were talking earlier, football is still a team game and when certain parts aren’t working, stats for everyone are not going to look so good.

    At the end of the day it’s about building a team that wins however they do it. When you win games nobody cares about stats.

  10. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, your blank posts are killing me lol, but the reply about Brian Kelly and Notre Dame – he left with his team still in the mix? Wow!!!

  11. CavalierKong says:

    I have a package coming via Fed Ex. Yesterday it got to Sacramento for delivery today. Today it got sent from Sacramento to San Francisco and my delivery day is moved to later this week. lol, wtf?

  12. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, that’s a cold move by Brian Kelly. That couldn’t be done after the season?

    • Ken says:

      Not really because College football is recruitment driven that if he waits until after the bowl season is over then he would be very behind in recruiting. This is not that unusual in college football

  13. CavalierKong says:

    Ken, so are the current college rankings the final rankings? Are the playoff teams set at Georgia, Michigan, Cincy, and Bama?

  14. ocalarob says:

    CavalierKong says:
    December 1, 2021 at 7:31 pm
    Tua is only 5 points away from the 10th spot. Two good games could put him there or one amazing game. I find it hard to believe that if Tua has an amazing game against the Giants and reaches that 10th spot that you’ll suddenly change your view of him.
    _________________________________________________

    He’s at least 7 points away from 10, also it wouldn’t matter if he got to 10 after the giants game, i look at passer rating after the season is complete.
    If he’s in the top 10 then couple that with a winning record, he’s had a good season.

    • ocalarob says:

      he has to pass 7 other players to get to #10

    • CavalierKong says:

      If you look at passer rating after the season is complete, then why does it matter that he’s in 17th place right now? You’ve been judging him all day/ season based on current passer rating? Why does that change if it becomes a positive factor?

      Right now 10th place is 99.1, Tua is at 94.7, so he’s only 4.4 points away from being tied for 10th (or 4.5 from being in 10th alone).

      Also, based on your comment a winning record has been added to the criteria, did I read that right? If he cracks the top 10, but the team ends up with a losing record, it won’t count?

  15. ocalarob says:

    If Tua finishes this year top 10 in passer rating we make the playoffs

  16. ElephantRider says:

    Fins have the worst pass protection in the league. Look it up…..

    If he finishes top 10? If he finishes at all is a testament to what he can become.

    • mf13ss says:

      ^ BOOM!

    • ElephantRider says:

      Let’s throw in they are 31st average yards a game rushing…..but let’s put it all on a top 10 rating?

    • ocalarob says:

      have you ever thought the fact that tua dinks and dunks out of the rpo the whole game that D’s are crowding the box with 9 guys within 10 yards of the LOS that; that affects the run game and pass pro?
      don’t you think opposing d’s make you beat them with your weakness? and take away your strengths?

      in tuas case his weakness would be the deep ball

      • ocalarob says:

        10 guys within 10 yards of the los, only one player deep, kinda tough to run in that crowd

      • ElephantRider says:

        And he’s supposed to be able to sit in the pocket and wait on a deep route? When does he have time to do that?
        My thought is this dink and dunk offense you blame on Tua is in fact the result of the shit ass OL, not the QB’s ability to throw deep.

      • ocalarob says:

        if you run out of a pro set with a power running game, and a strong arm qb, a fast wr, you keep ds honest, they have to honor that deep threat with play action.

        the offense is designed around tuas deficiencies, we run an rpo style offense, the ol is not firing off the ball as they would in a pro set, tua’s weak arm is no deep threat so they dink and dunk you. he struggles to throw outside the numbers.
        his arm strength limits what you can do offensively.
        that’s why he avgs 212 ypg

  17. mf13ss says:

    Ken says:
    December 1, 2021 at 8:07 pm
    I am trying for a page turn lol
    ————-
    LOL, you Big Green Fuck! (Richard Pryor’s words, not mine). 😀

  18. Tim Knight says:

    Stats don’t tell the entire story. Our defense is playing at a high level the last bunch of games. We’re last in yardage allowed. That was because of early in the season when they were not playing well. That does not reflect the current team. The 1-7 start really messed up the season. So from here is all that matters now. Nothing else you can do. Just keep playing well and become a team that knows winning.

  19. Tim Knight says:

    If Tua finishes this season playing like he has been the last few games, can you imagine what the backlash will be with more Watson rumors in the off-season? Tua is winning over the fan base. He’s our QB. We can’t have another off-season of that. It hurts the entire organization. We’ve won 4 in a row once that nonsense was over. That kind of stuff matters. Tua is not the problem. Most of us see that. The leadership did our team a disservice by lacking confidence in the QB they drafted at #5 last year and telling the entire team we’re not sure what we’re doing. Once that was over for this year things seemed to get better. Maybe not so much the coaching but the players themselves rallying. I see that. These guys are playing together and for themselves as they should.

  20. ocalarob says:

    Tua struggles to stretch the field, opposing D’s dont have to cover the entire field.

    that’s the issue with Tua.

    we’ve been winning with defense not offense, and we’re playing shitty teams, this has to be the easiest 6 games any team has played this year, the only tough one was the ravens,
    the texans, panthers@home, jets twice and the giants, give me a break!
    and those 6 games are not over yet, then we have three tough games!

    • ElephantRider says:

      What WR do we have to take the top off the defense? Who is constantly open to throw to besides Waddle? When is Tua allowed to even go through progressions?

      So now winning an NFL game is not good enough? Easy teams? I recall Fins beating the #1 team in the AFC….idk what more you want.

      • ocalarob says:

        albert wilson, mack hollins, we’re getting parker back and you have waddle.

      • ElephantRider says:

        LOL! Whatever man.

      • Tim Knight says:

        ORob believes in throwing ghost routes. Meaning they’re not there. The OL struggles, many WRs are not available to play and the running game is not a strength, but Tua must overcome all of that. At some point you have to see it for what it was. He used those same reasons for why Brissett struggled. With Tua, he has to be spectacular or it’s a no go. LOL

      • ElephantRider says:

        Yeah. Somehow Brisket got a pass and he was abysmal. He’s got a strong arm though!

  21. CavalierKong says:

    ocalarob says:
    December 1, 2021 at 9:29 pm
    they go hand in hand, 90 percent of top 10 qb rating make the playoffs, i looked him up just to see where he was at, with all this rave about him i figured he be top 5!

    ocalarob says:
    December 1, 2021 at 9:36 pm
    look at 2020 passer ratings, look at all the playoff qbs in the top 10, look down the list, as passer rating goes down so does the team winning pct

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/passing.htm

    —————————————–

    I get there is some correlation with winning and quality of QB play, that goes without saying. But your boy Watson only won 4 games last year and didn’t make the playoffs with his top 10 rating.

    As a matter of fact, 4 out of the top 10 QBs didn’t make the playoffs in 2020.
    And, 4 out of the top 10 QBs didn’t have a winning record in 2020.
    That is nearly half.

    So what I previously asked was, based on your previous comment about what you consider for Tua having a successful season, is that the standard you are holding him to- a top 10 rating and a winning season?

  22. ocalarob says:

    i’m just not impressed with tuas weak arm, he is very accurate but i believe he doesn’t have the arm to contend at that level. only time will tell.
    and i don’t think i’m the only one who feels that way.
    why else would ross be calling watson?
    things that make you go hmmm?

  23. ocalarob says:

    if you look at the last ten years of passer rating and you take the teams that made post season vs the teams that didn’t you would be surprised at the percentage, it just goes to show you need a good all around qb to win in this league

    • Tim Knight says:

      Absolutely!!! You also need a defense that isn’t last in every category the first 8 games, the worst ranked OL, a depleted WR corps and a sup par running game. Other than that, Tua should overcome all of that even missing 3 games due to the ineptitude around him.

      Dan Marino would probably get us to 8-9 or maybe 9-8. Remember those years? Was it because of Marino? 86-89. If we only had a QB.

      You realize you contradict yourself constantly with your view of how football needs to be played right?

    • CavalierKong says:

      2020- 3 of the top 10 didn’t make the playoffs
      2019- 3 of the top 10 ^
      2018- 2 of the top 10 ^
      2017- 4 of the top 10 ^
      2016- 5 out of top 10 ^

      Last 5 years, 34% didn’t make the playoffs- more than 1/3 of the QBs/ teams.

  24. Tim Knight says:

    ORob has constantly said running the football and imposing our will is key. When has that happened in recent times? We’ve had some decent rushing numbers recently but nowhere near imposing our will on opponents. But we have won 4 in a row with the weak armed Tua. When does the BS end? LOL

  25. Ken says:

    • Tim Knight says:

      That’s what a lot of people are not seeing with what Tua brings to the table. His clock is fast if it’s there. I think this pass was more than 6 inches lol, and it was a zip strike for a TD. Nothing more, it didn’t have to be more than that. TD!!!!

      Build around him and we will win. His job is to get the ball to playmakers. We need more of them. He does not have a juggernaut of talent around him. We can’t block half the plays we run. No matter who plays QB for us many of the plays are sandlot plays.

      That’s not how the great QBs of our time have been feasting. Here and there, yes, not 3 out of 4 times.

  26. Krishna says:

    People also ask

    What does it mean to call a person dense?

    And if someone calls you dense, they think nothing can get into your thick skull. Dense comes from the Latin densus which means thick and cloudy. In general, the word means packed tight and gives the sense that something is difficult to get through.

    Lol…popped into my head reading up on the blog. Some people…..lmao

  27. son of a son of a shula says:

    On this day in 1985

    Do I even need to tell you?
    It was a Monday Night, the undefeated 72 were on the sidelines as Dan Marino shredded the then 12-0 Bears.
    It was glorious 💪🐬🐧🐽🔥😁

    • Mike E. says:

      It was such an exciting game to watch. Monday Night Football was 100x better back then, not diluted as it is now with Thursday Night Football, Sunday Night Football. It was the marquis matchup of 2 very good teams, people used to really look forward to the theater it provided. The Dolphins with Marino slicing and dicing that vaunted 46 defense was a pleasure though, the Marks Bros and Nat Moore. Oddly enough, not 1 checkdown to a back in that game, only Duper, Clayton and Moore had receptions, 5 each for the Bros, and 4 for Moore

    • pheloniusphish says:

      I watched it in a bar in San Diego, surrounded by Bears fans. Listened to the lamentations of their women. Awesome.

    • Ken says:

      I had a term paper due the next day. Sat in front of the TV with my typewriter (no computer back then) and typed an inspired paper. Got an A

    • ocalarob says:

      i was looking at QB passer ratings that night.

  28. ocalarob says:

    remember the helicopter catch

  29. olddolphan says:

    ME, Mrs. OD, My oldest daughter and her boyfriend were all there to see the greatest regular season win in Dolphins’ history!!!!

    ROCK AND ROLL IN THE ORANGE BOWL, BABY!! I had a big sign which said “Dolfans Delight!!-
    BEARS DIE TONIGHT!!!” Ross’s Palace will NEVER compare to the Orange Bowl, no matter HOW MUCH MONEY HE SPENDS ON IT!!

    • boulderfinfan says:

      That was a great game. If we hadn’t lost to NE in the playoffs we could have had a rematch with the bears in the Superbowl that year.

  30. ocalarob says:

    for all you inept maladroit enthusiasts out there this is what a strong arm looks like.

  31. olddolphan says:

    PS–Does ANYBODY feel sorry for MLB’s millionaire players or billionaire owners?? The mayor of St. Petersburg says this lockout (It.s NOT a STRIKE YOU IDIOTS!) SHOULD BE THE LAST STRAW for taxpayers.

    NO FREE RIDES for these guys. IF they want new stadiums, let THEM build and PAY FOR IT!!

    • pheloniusphish says:

      I agree

    • New Age says:

      I’ve always thought they should pay for it. The ROI for cities is abysmal and the varied uses are limited. St Louis hasn’t fallen into mediocrity because the Rams are gone. San Diego suddenly isn’t a bad place to visit because the Chargers no longer lose there. TV deals pay for almost everything so why shouldn’t the owners reinvest in their own business instead of demanding taxpayers do it?

  32. New Age says:

    I’ve noticed Kong being surgical as well. Orlovski may not notice but we do lol. Looking forward to MNF when one of my least favorite teams is guaranteed to lose.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/christian-mccaffrey-is-the-poster-child-for-why-nfl-teams-shouldnt-pay-running-backs/ar-AARlAB2

    The more things change, the more they stay the same. Certain positions should never get big money. The world does not run on equity.

  33. sb7mvp says:

    For having such a strong arm, Aaron Rodgers sure does use a lot of running starts to throw long.

    • sb7mvp says:

      There were a lot of running starts for big throws in that video. Vick, Moon, Rodgers, Allen. Namath was the only one that didn’t have a clip of a running start.

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s the proper way to throw deep, why shouldn’t he use the best way?

      When you wipe your ass do you reach between your legs, then go back?

  34. boulderfinfan says:

    I’m really happy we picked up Lindsay. He went to Colorado and was a stud here. The Broncos drafted him and he went to the pro bowl his first year. Not sure why he was cut. I think he’s gonna do well here if only our oline could block.

  35. steveccnv says:

    Keys to the Giants game

    1. Let Waddle, Waddle

    2. Tua stay hot

    3. D do what you’ve been doing

  36. Ken says:

    Daniel Jones did have limited participation in practice so there is a chance he may play

  37. CavalierKong says:

    Cheers, New Age 🙂

    Have you watched WOT yet? I’m curious as to your thoughts on it. I’m getting some flak from some friends that I am judging it too harshly, and I can accept that may be the case. I just can’t seem to separate the books from the show. I went in saying I wouldn’t do that, but I’ve failed miserably, lol.

  38. ocalarob says:

    The problem with the OL and the running game is the RPO offense, it works in college because OL can engage 3 yards past the LOS, it doesn’t work in the NFL because they can only engage 1 yard off the LOS. otherwise it;s a penalty, and we’ve seen plenty of those penalties.

    Tua needs this RPO to survive. the OL doesn’t know if it’s a run or pass? the box is crowded.

    so when you bitch about the OL or the lack of a running game look to Tua’s weak ass arm as the reason.

  39. ocalarob says:

    I’ve got great news for everyone!
    I’m having back surgery soon and will have to recover, that means i’ll be able to post a lot more of how Tua sucks.
    no need to thank me.

  40. Rockphin says:

    And the Big O completely disagrees with the Braided Coconut, which Omar concedes.

    • Rockphin says:

      at the 30:00 mark Big O says it’s not Tua’s arm, he doesn’t have a week arm, it is the freaking O line unable to hold a block. Then he goes on to talk about Naji Harris not being any good here or helping Tua because of the Line, then he says go ahead and bring Watson here, he won’t last 4 games…
      Big O is right, you and the braided Coconut are and have always been wrong. You come to a conclusion and then twist everything into pretzels to prove an unprovable falsehood.

      Last year it was one picture of a 3/4 throw and that was all the proof you needed to shit on Tua for a season, when you could find 50 pictures of an overhead release point.

  41. ocalarob says:

    the big O is a great guy, but he’s misinformed like most here. he even thinks gesicki is good!

  42. ocalarob says:

    the reason there’s no room to run is because the box is loaded, the defense doesn’t need to guard the whole field, it’s not accessible to our qb.

  43. ocalarob says:

    i knew i shouldn’t have started a conv with the village idiot, what was i thinking?

    • Rockphin says:

      talking to yourself in the mirror? You are the joke of this board dude.

      • ocalarob says:

        whether proven right or wrong i add content, you add stupidity.
        don’t include me in your hatred, there’s something wrong with you, i know other people who ran from you in a short period of time, which i don’t want to get into out of respect. I wonder why that happened? things that make you go Hmmm?

        your crossing the line as usual.

        Look at your responses? the fact that you do your best to start an argument on the internet speaks volumes.
        i have better things to do than type an argument here don’t you?

        please just go away, don’t read my post.

  44. Ken says:

    Boom 💥

  45. ocalarob says:

    You can’t have an opinion here unless it goes with the status quo.
    you have very immature people here who feel the need to attack you for it.
    not everyone though, and i respect those people.

    if i don’t think like you think, which by the way has nothing to do with me, there’s a need for me to attack you……. (mentality)?

    instead of engaging in civilized conversation or simply moving on to the next post.

    I know, he doesn’t like Tua so lets first call him names then start and type a long argument about it.
    let’s type an argument on the internet, oh the joy!

    how fuck’n stupid is that?

    • ocalarob says:

      total lack of common sense thru out this place

    • Ken says:

      You carry on a conversation with subtlety of a napalm bomb. You take your cue right out of your good friend Home’s playbook. You post on topics and opinions that you know are unpopular and will get under people’s skin and you post them over and over again until the conversation becomes more about than anything else.

      • ocalarob says:

        at least i don’t criticize people for their opinion like you do, what i post is what i believe, sorry i can’t change the way i think.

        i shouldn’t even be responding to you, i’ve lost total respect for you, I no longer talk football with you.

        unless you want to call me names and argue over the internet just please skip my posts.

        Thanks in advance

  46. Rockphin says:

    ocalarob says:
    December 2, 2021 at 3:03 pm

    your crossing the line as usual….Look at your responses?

    As usual you seem to be living in some delusional Bizzarro world where up is down and backward is forward. I cross the line? You are ALWAYS the first person to resort to personal attacks and then cry that others are attacking your. You really need to seek professional help.

    I don’t even have to go through other pages to prove my point. it’s all right here on this page turn.

    ocalarob says:
    December 2, 2021 at 2:23 pm
    do you still have the thumb look from behind?
    –Low brow comment on my choice of hair style?

    ocalarob says:
    December 2, 2021 at 3:05 pm
    what the fuck are you laughing about dick face?
    –Crass uncouth attack on Ken

    ocalarob says:
    there’s something wrong with you, i know other people who ran from you in a short period of time…
    –Veiled reference to my divorce 5 years ago?? Not sure and really don’t care but this is not “content”

    Rob, you are a clown. You post stupid shit for attention and then cry when you get the attention. Even so I enjoy you posting on here because it lightens my day to laugh at you.

    I could always respond to your low brow personal attacks about my baldness with comments about your 40lb FUPA that looks like a Giants fanny pack worn backwards but I refrain from doing so because I choose to focus on the content of your inane posts.

  47. ocalarob says:

    Ken says:
    December 2, 2021 at 3:07 pm
    Boom 💥

    _____________________________

    that is the snide shit i get from you always, does that make you feel better about yourself? just wondering?

  48. Rockphin says:

    Oh, I’m not playing the victim card. There are two constant victims on this board and you are numero uno.

  49. Rockphin says:

    ORob “adding content”

  50. Ken says:

    ocalarob says:
    December 2, 2021 at 3:51 pm (Edit)
    at
    what i post is what i believe, sorry i can’t change the way i think.
    ———————-
    I call bullshit. You post with the intention to inflame and draw attention to yourself. I don’t know if you really believe anything other than “it is all about me”

  51. Tim Knight says:

    Oh boy, it’s ground hog’s day again! LOL

  52. steveccnv says:

    Bills vs Cheats Monday

    Who do you want to win and why?

  53. steveccnv says:

    MLB CBA expired at midnight last night

    Players locked out

  54. ocalarob says:

    Did i mention that Tua has a weak ass arm and can’t throw outside the numbers?

    • steveccnv says:

      Don’t recall, but it sure isn’t strong

      • Tim Knight says:

        There’s a difference between throwing it 70 yards and zipping it in there on more common plays. Tua can get the ball to the right spot on most throws with zip. I’ll take that everyday over a guy who can’t do that but can throw the ball a mile. We’ve seen those guys come and go. Josh Rosen has a very good arm and can throw it further than Tua but he sucks at everything else.

  55. steveccnv says:

    If Denver didn’t step in and take Javonte we could’ve had him

    But then Javon Holland probably isn’t a Fin

    Who would you take today?

    • CavalierKong says:

      I mentioned the other day that Denver might have done us a favor. I’ll take Holland.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I like both players but Holland looks to be a potential all-pro. There will be other RBs for us down the road. Not sure Williams would be doing anything more than what we have with our OL.

  56. Rockphin says:

    I’m very happy they took Holland. With a redraft, at this point in their careers, I would still take Holland, even though he was not on my radar on draft day.

  57. Rockphin says:

    Rooting for a bunch of injuries and for Buffalo to pull off a win. (Don’t think we can catch Buff but we can catch NE if we win out and thy lose to Buff and perhaps one more.

  58. The Flying Pig says:

    I think the best case scenario is for the cheats to lose twice to the bills

    Then we beat the cheats in the final game of the season

    That’s 3 losses to take them to 10-7 and gives us a shot to win out.

    I think you have to root for the bills – the bills already swept us
    But we can sweep the patriots

  59. Tim Knight says:

    The Pats can run the ball and play good defense. The Bills struggle against good rush teams and this year good defenses have given Allen problems. I think the Pats will win the game. They’re playing well in all phases. As for who do I want to win, I’m not sure. We just have to take care of our own business because we really don’t have much room for error. One more loss and the best we can do is win 9 games. I don’t think our playoff chances will be based on those two teams. A wildcard against other teams outside our division is probably the only way.

  60. mf13ss says:

    Rockphin says:
    December 2, 2021 at 4:05 pm
    Oh, I’m not playing the victim card. There are two constant victims on this board and you are numero uno.
    ————–
    PLEASE let me be numero dos(!), just to prove your nonsense! Some people don’t even know what the ‘victim card’ is, and I’ve never once played it.

    I punch back HARDER than Trump when accosted, and EVERYBODY here knows it… and yes, it gets me in trouble at times. You… you just get a free pass for being the loud-mouthed punk on the board.

    Was ‘I’ the other “constant victim on this board” you were referring to? And quite honestly, do you think you’re going to get anywhere being a punk? I’m most sorry you got electrocuted and aren’t the same afterward, ‘victim card holder’. SMMFH

    • ocalarob says:

      You should just ignore the fool. Hes got nothing better in life to do than start shit on the internet.

      • mf13ss says:

        That’s good advice.

        But allow me to be a friend to you, sir: you ARE stirring up some stuff regarding Tua, my friend. 🙂

      • mf13ss says:

        In other words, you aren’t making any friends with your doubts. You reserve the right to call it as you see it, and I’ll NEVER interfere with anybody’s take. I’m just sayin’, you are riling a LOT of people up, man.

      • mf13ss says:

        Regarding Tua, of course.

      • ocalarob says:

        I cant help the way i feel about a qb. Its my opinion. I dont like his play. Theres nothing wrong with that. Its very facist to try to impugn someone over there beliefs. Im talking football and insult no one until they impose their stupidity upon me. And i got news for you. This tiger wont change his stripes. The only one who can change that is tua.

      • mf13ss says:

        I respect ya, Brother!

  61. mf13ss says:

    ORob,

    As you’d stated a few days ago that you wanted to have surgery, I’m happy that you’ll be getting surgery on your back, Bro.

  62. mf13ss says:

    Folks,

    I want y’all to observe how ORob and I operate. He seems to not like Tua, whereas I’m a HUGE fan of Tua. We do not desecrate one another over differing opinions. We have respect for one another, and we can agree to disagree without BS attacks on one another.

    I wish this board would operate like ORob and I do more often.

  63. ocalarob says:

    Let me go further by saying i hear bad opinions about players here all the time. Jesse davis. Jackson.eich. do i call those guys names for that? Hell no.
    Let them say what they will. I could care less. Ive got a list of whos been naughty and nice lol

  64. ocalarob says:

    Nice thought but a waste of time. There’s character flaws here. You cant change this crap so why bother.
    We will just keep on. Hell even one of the moderators does that shit.

  65. ocalarob says:

    MF 13, let me expand on Tua a little bit, at the top the stat in the link below click on Y/C yards gained per completion,
    He’s 29th in the league!
    That’s because he doesn’t have the arm to throw outside the numbers or downfield, in the panther game he didn’t have any passes that traveled more than 20 yards. they cram the field on him and most of his passes are for minimal gains.

    That’s a huge problem, sure the D is playing great and we’ve been winning but what he’s doing doesn’t equate to championship football.
    any good run team will shut him down.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/passing.htm

  66. ocalarob says:

    you can bet those in charge know that, why else would they be talking to Watson?

    • Tim Knight says:

      Well why did they draft Tua then? Maybe they don’t know what they’re doing. They could have drafted a 6-6 QB with a big arm that can run but they didn’t.

  67. Tim Knight says:

    This blog often reflects the same whining, self indulgence, arrogance and ignorance of a TV show like ‘The View’. It’s pure Yentaville. LOL

  68. Krishna says:

    ocalarob says:
    December 2, 2021 at 6:48 pm
    you’re fucked up in the head…

    Lmao! Says the victim who respects no one’s opinion except their own.

    Imo, most on this board entertain, muse, discuss, parry, support, challenge, etc . others’ opinions….even yours.

    The rub. OROB is that you don’t consider any one else’s opinion. Period. You have defined for everyone exactly what the problem is “iyo” and that’s just the way it is.

    No one else is worthy or can say it nice enough to you for you to accept or even fucking consider any other point but your own. And everyone on this blog has debated YOUR opinion, but NOT once have you debated anyone else’s. It always comes back to yours. Call it what you want, I have.

    And, Mf13ss finds that to be acceptable behavior with high respect.

    Lol…just my 2 cents….

  69. pheloniusphish says:

    Sweet Fucking Baby Jesus I love this board!

  70. New Age says:

    Kong,

    WoT’s on the backburner TBH. I visit another site with a larger WoT fanbase and more frequent discussion for updates. They say the newest episodes are a lot better than the first 2. I asked if that meant I could just start on episode 3 and save my soul? I asked if it was Hercules and Xena good or Legends of the Seeker Season 2 good? They just laughed at me without answer. Not what I was hoping to read. I’ll still eventually get to it. I’ve been watching other stuff like Arcane, weekly anime, and the free week of HBO, Starz, and Epix.

  71. manitobafinfan says:

    Respectfully ORob : I think a lot of the backlash on your stance comes from your constant “copy/Paste” of your thoughts on it .. it’s like you have your weak arm, can’t throw outside the #’s speech saved on yer mouse and just hit insert paste … we all know how you feel , it’s just how often In a day you post the same sentence…

    Again , respectfully….

  72. manitobafinfan says:

    Ken: I have noticed this week , especially today a large amount of your “empty posts” .. I might flip back from WordPress to see what they are … I prefer the WordPress as it auto refreshes for comments inside 5 mins of each other

  73. ocalarob says:

    Did i mention tua sucks?

  74. ocalarob says:

    Manitoba. I dont just out of the blue post that shit. Im in a debate with someone challenging my position and most of the time its respectful. I do post sometimes did i mention tua sucks. Just for laughs . what you are saying is incorrect.
    Respectfully

    • manitobafinfan says:

      Didn’t say it was outta the blue , when you are “debating “ it’s a copy paste of the same paragraph/short story.. it ain’t Beetleguice where if ya hit someone over the head with it enough times it appears to all if a sudden make everyone agree with you .. eau contraire

      • manitobafinfan says:

        Your Tua sucks comments are almost a breathe if fresh air.. 😊. Respectfully

      • ocalarob says:

        Not really. Look above. My conv started out with the rpo offense and rockphin disputed it. At first i thought he was serious but instead of a reasonable debate he turned to stupidity. What can i do to avoid that. The last thing i want to do is hurl insults around here. And i know its the usual suspects. Nothing you can do so i move on

      • ocalarob says:

        Just read back. Whos being unreasonable. I know who they are. Ive made a list.

  75. pheloniusphish says:

    Told Home once that he should get a goldfish for a pet because it couldn’t run away. Worth repeating.

  76. mf13ss says:

    Krishna says:
    December 2, 2021 at 7:26 pm
    …And, Mf13ss finds that to be acceptable behavior with high respect.
    ————–
    Bro Krishna, I’m TRULY trying to reconcile with ya, man… but this isn’t the way to go about it, IMO.

    I respect any and all who voice an opinion on our MIAMI DOLPHINS, but the personal attacks on other posters are nothing more than distractions to the serious discussions.

    Look, if ya don’t like what somebody is saying, just skip over their posts… rather than go into attack mode. I sometimes feel we’re going back to elementary school what with some of the attacking posts that go back and forth.

    I say this with PEACEFUL intentions. And no, I don’t agree with my buddy ORob 100% of the time, and I think I’ve made that very and abundantly clear to all… but I would never personally disrespect him as others have.

    Let us ALL try to be better.

  77. ocalarob says:

    Any way i have respect for you manitoba. Even though you bust my balls every sunday

    • manitobafinfan says:

      I also Laff as I give ya props when something happens the way you see it .. glad you don’t take offence to MY ballbusting

  78. ocalarob says:

    Bookman was my buddy i stood behind when he was criticized about his religion and he now stabs me in the back

  79. ocalarob says:

    All this goof krishna does is nonstop stupidity. He comes off as a smart dude sometimes but how smart can you be constantly talking shit on the internet

  80. ocalarob says:

    Rockphin. I think this guy is ready to commit suicide. He has the personality of a rock. Never jokes always pissed off and serious.
    He definitely has issues

  81. ocalarob says:

    Then you have Ken and his driveby snide remarks. And im not the only one saying that

  82. manitobafinfan says:

    Still No reason to call out names and belittle people because you have each taken personal pot shots at each other … we should all be better than that

  83. ocalarob says:

    I mean since we”re airing out fault we might as well get them all out of the way

  84. manitobafinfan says:

    I THINK a lot of snide remarks and nasty comments as I read , very seldom are the sent

  85. Krishna says:

    Mf13ss, you paid Orob respect for his single-minded opinion. I acknowledged that but maybe it wasn’t the way you thought it should read.

    I have nothing to reconcile with you and not sure why you feel a need to reconcile or why a reconciliation is in order. Guess I am clueless.

    I you asking me to apologize for something I said to you? I don’t get it.

  86. Krishna says:

    Orob, the one who sets all the rules for all the discussions but never follows any of his own rules. Hypocrisy is at its finest when the hypocrite can live without it.

    Truly, a man would see this, but you can’t even come close to a mirror.

    Stupidity? You’re not nearly as smart as you think you are, lmao….

    You can’t even show up

    • Krishna says:

      …the hypocrite thrives on their own hypocrisy. Everyone has to follow their rules, except them. Lol…it makes them, in their own eyes, superior. Oh well….

    • ocalarob says:

      Who wants to hang out with an ass hole? no thanks!

      • Krishna says:

        Truth hurts, doesn’t it? You just can’t stop and you can’t follow your own rules….it’s your problem, not mine dude.

        I don’t follow rules, so there’s that….lmao!

  87. Krishna says:

    manitobafinfan says:
    December 2, 2021 at 9:10 pm
    I THINK a lot of snide remarks and nasty comments as I read , very seldom are the sent

    Reply

    —‐—————-

    I do too!!!!

  88. bookman11 says:

    ORob, I told that it is becoming hard to defend your positions when you just seem to make comments to provoke people.

    I made a mistake about bringing my religion to this blog. Don’t use that to justify your nonsense.

  89. ocalarob says:

    So let me be the first to throw out an olive branch, stop the bull shit and so will i, let’s see who complies

    • Krishna says:

      Not sure I know the rules…lol.

      Did I fuck up already or comply?

    • bookman11 says:

      Will you stop with the incessant Tua crap? If not, no deal

      • ocalarob says:

        You see how fcked up you are. So if i say anything about tua you will insult me? You have no right to say stupid shit in response to my football post. If you have a problem respond accordingly or move on.

      • Krishna says:

        Bookman you gave him the raw meat for his out and victimization and he took it. Hypocrisy just oozes…..sorry man.

        I agree with you though. I offered up a discussion about the OL and instead he attacked you for trying to put some rules in too. I believe I mentioned that he’s the only one who can set the rules.

      • ocalarob says:

        Well that didnt last long.

      • ocalarob says:

        Yeah the rules are dont attack others for their football opinion.
        Is that too much to ask

      • ocalarob says:

        Read below about your ol

      • Krishna says:

        Right Orob and not sure asking you to leave out bringing up Tua’s weak ass arm as the OLs issue or problem is not too much to ask. We all know your opinion on Tua..he’s to blame for the D, the scheme, the coaching, the injuries, We fucking got it.

        Not too much to ask if you have any other perspectives, thoughts or you’ve reached your limits? Can you leave Tua out of discussions that are not about Tua? Lol?

        He is an important piece to this or that position is most important. But no one in that position can win anything by themselves. Facts! Or the sole cause for failure. Facts!

  90. Krishna says:

    So Orob, you have no criticism of our OL or believe in any way that our OL is responsible for the O’s woes this year? None? That is your firm belief…zero blame?

  91. manitobafinfan says:

    Krishna: I am not ORob , but in my eyes it appears they have been playing a bit better as of late , but they set a REALLY low bar earlier in the season .. be interesting to see if Lindsay can keep finding running lanes , and hopefully Gaskin as well

    • Krishna says:

      Yep, I think the Keystone cops analogy was a perfect description of the OL early on…a shitshow greater than the rest of the shitshow everywhere else.

      It does seem like Tua has more time or is developing pocket awareness or a combo in that things are gelling more.

      The run blocking is still awful. Kinda why I thought 31 caught me eye. He seemed to make shit happen when all there was was shit. Aggressive, decisive, hard runner, with quickness…I hope we see more of him and I hope he rises to the challenge and abo e some of this shit…lol

  92. olddolphan says:

    SPENT MOST of the early evening switching between the Blues @ Lightning match and the Cowboys @ Saints contest. Early in the third period Tampa Bay scored to take a 2-1 lead. A few minutes later the Bolts’ defensman,Victor Hedman took an ill-advised penalty. You could almost see the smoke coming out of his ears when the Blues tied the game at 2. Hedman decided it was time to get VERY serious. In less than 2 minutes, this All-Star defenseman scored TWO GOALS to open up a 4-2 lead for the home team. It was awesome!! So, the Lightning cruised to that 4-2 win as the fans roared their approval. Beginning Saturday, the Bolts go on the road to play 3, count ’em, THREE games in FOUR DAYS!!! That’s INSANITY!! No team can play at the NHL level by playing 3 games in 4 days. Time for the league to get A LITTLE LESS GREEDY and alter their schedules to PREVENT THIS DANGEROUS STUPIDITY. Tampa Bay has already lost their two top players to injury for anextended period of time (Kucherov and Brayden Point). Time for them to cut back the 82 game schedule to where it was in Gretzky’s heyday (78 games, or less). And, in years when they close down the NHL to participate in the Winter Olympics, the schedule should be either lengthened or cut back to say, about 66-68 games.

    But, alas, as Harry Truman said, “Common sense isn’t so common!” GREED will still win out.
    ———————
    The other big sports event tonight is the Dallas @ New Orleans game. So far, neither team has scared me with an over powering performance. Both QB’s have thrown several dink-and-dunk passes. They must have noodle arms, right?? Well, maybe Tarzan will make a special appearance at quarterback tonight and show us what a REAL MAN CAN DO AT QUARTERBACK, EH?
    ——————–
    TIME to walk the Greyhound and get my puny arm and body to bed. Maybe, with a good night’s rest, this OLD DOLFAN will wake up with a cannon for an arm.

    GOOD NIGHT, Y’ALL!

    • CavalierKong says:

      Congrats to the Lightning, OD. After the Blues beat the Lightning the other night, I felt pretty confident going into 3rd period tied up with your boys, but the Lightning took control and earned the win to tie the season series. Cheers 🙂

  93. ocalarob says:

    As for the OL. They are very young. Not to mention the scheme thrown at them is difficult. They cant engage a lineman more than 1 yard off the los or its a penalty. I was trying to explain this earlier. Running an rpo is the issue. Instead of in a pro set where you have guys either pass pro or firing off the line. They dont know if its a pass or run. Anyway its what i had recently seen in a video

  94. Randy says:

    This isn’t…and was never gonna be…a down field offense. They drafted Tua because of his accuracy, brains and ability to manage the pocket and get the ball out. He does not have a cannon for an arm. Everyone knew his arm was average, but he can still make any throw he needs to make…most of which are designed to be short to medium range. I don’t even understand this conversation. It has nothing to do with this team or reality! Lol
    ***
    Teams are getting pressure against us with 4 rushers most of the time. They aren’t and don’t need to crowd the box. They’re not constantly bringing extra guys. Our OL simply isn’t getting it done. A couple teams brought some extra pressure earlier in the year but that tapered off. There’s no way any OC with half a brain is gonna call a lot of deep throws with this OL, so why do we keep belaboring this?

  95. ocalarob says:

    I heard lindsay didnt practice today. Hes injured

  96. ocalarob says:

    Rpo in college lineman can engage 3 yards off the line

  97. The Flying Pig says:

    Who’s ready for this

  98. ocalarob says:

    How can people be so ignorant?
    Im talking football and someone attacks me for my football opinion . So then they get attacked for attacking me. And on and on it goes

    So whos at fault for all this disruption.

    • Krishna says:

      Who attacked you for what football opinion? I thought we were talking about OL and others are as well. I don’t get it….

  99. Krishna says:

    Our is young and maybe that’s been the plan all along. Deal with it and let them grow up together and gain experience.

    Early on, our OL was being destroyed by a good pass rush defense and self-destructive…..but they didn’t against the number one defense last week.. We’ll see, still too many self-destructive plays last week, and hope for improvement this week.

    And the coaches are young too!

  100. bookman11 says:

    ORob, quit using the word attacked. You are unreal. Wow. You attack and are so offended at others who disagree with you

  101. bookman11 says:

    Good night

  102. ElephantRider says:

    Randy

    Please don’t bring a logical viewpoint to this. 🙂

  103. ukfinfan says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    December 2, 2021 at 7:05 am
    On this day in 1985
    Do I even need to tell you?
    It was a Monday Night, the undefeated 72 were on the sidelines as Dan Marino shredded the then 12-0 Bears.
    It was glorious 💪🐬🐧🐽🔥😁

    1985? Ah, those were the days. Listening to AFRTS radio broadcast to US forces in army and air force bases in the UK between 1:30am and 4:30am (because the internet was still a sparkle in it’s father’s eye, having not yet been born). Reception was awful and commentary was regularly interrupted by, at the very least, competition from an intermittently stronger radio signal of a Spanish radio station and an opera singer during the night. I listened in the dark, picking up between 50-75% of the commentary on bad nights and most on good nights. Somehow, using one’s imagination and strained hearing, events took on a much more vivid perspective versus seeing the hairs growing out of the centre’s nose as the ball is snapped in ultra-high, mega-data-loaded, 60fps high definition tv nowadays. When the ball bounced off Hampton’s helmet (I had to look it up to check who) I almost shat myself. I knew then that destiny would not desert us on that night. As you say son, truly glorious. I fell asleep with a huge grin on my face at FT.

  104. ukfinfan says:

    I copy/pasted the comments from this blog and sent it to Jackson, since he’s finished filming Tolkein’s books and has some time on his hands. He’s mocking up a rough outline of the film and the excerpt from below is from the first day’s rushes.

    NB This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places and incidents either are products of the author’s imagination or are used fictitiously. Any resemblance to actual events or locales or persons, living or dead, is entirely coincidental.

    • Krishna says:

      At least on the D side of the ball, comparing the start of year (giving up 29 points/game) vs last 4 games total points is an improvement.

      Everyone seems to be buying in and stepping up and coming back.

  105. wyoming85 says:

    I see this place still has the positivity of Gonorrhea drip!
    ———————————

    Best of luck on our upcoming surgery Orob

  106. sb7mvp says:

    It’d be nice to see another complete win in all 3 phases.

  107. bailbondmike says:

    I was on the road the last 3 days. I spent the last hour catching up and realized I just wasted 55 of 60 minutes. lol Luv y’all

  108. ukfinfan says:

    Interesting.

  109. Capt. Stubbs says:

    I just want everyone to know it’s 51 degrees here in Osteen Fl

  110. manitobafinfan says:

    26 in Winnipeg , is it golf ? Do I win ? 🤡

  111. manitobafinfan says:

    ORob , best of luck with the surgery

  112. Capt. Stubbs says:

    Orob where on your back are you getting surgery? I had lower back surgery. I had 3 broken vertebrae and recovered nicely. Now I’m having issues with my arms they have poked, prodded me, shocked me,multiple MRI’s, and thousands of blood tests. Hopefully the 9th they will have some info for me.
    God speed on recovery

  113. steveccnv says:

    There’s no way any OC with half a brain is gonna call a lot of deep throws with this OL, so why do we keep belaboring this?

    Randy

    No one is saying to throw a lot of deep balls, we’re saying there’s no fear in going deep, because of his arm

    Once or twice a game would alleviate some of the pressure, but still there’s no fear, so they crowd the box, again and again

    Once teams start to figure out they don’t need to rush more than 3 we’ll be dead in the water

    The best complimented comparison for Tua has been Brees, who didn’t exactly have a big arm, but got it done with high percentage throws

    I’ll admit nothing pisses me off more, than when a QB is inaccurate often. RT had those issues at times, and Dak has had more this year, than I can remember before, so Tua does have that in his favor, he just needs to be deadly accurate more often than not to be a good QB

    Can Tua be that accurate for long spells? We’ll see and it will define him

    • Capt. Stubbs says:

      I think Tua’s arm strength is fine. I believe he can make all the throws. He doesn’t have enough time in the pocket for any deep routes to develop as been said over and over. No he doesn’t have the arm strength to throw it on a line 40+ yards or so. However using accuracy with more of an arc gets the job done. NEED THE O LINE TO COME TOGETHER

      • Ken says:

        I don’t get this arm strength discussion. Tua’s arm is fine. He has shown he can throw it deep, he can throw the out and he can zip into a window just like the TD pass to Waddle last week. This discussion on his arm strength is silly imo

  114. Capt. Stubbs says:

    Not sure if any mentioned it already

    WHOPPER’S are .37 cents today and tomorrow! Sounds like family night at BK lol

  115. Mike E. says:

    NEW BLOG UP!!!!

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