There are so many moves the Miami Dolphins organization need to make, the most obvious one is hiring a new Head Coach, and having that Head Coach assemble an entire coaching staff. I liked Brian Flores. I liked his no nonsense personality, I liked his toughness. I didn’t like the staff he put together, and that includes revamping his staff last season. As the group Depeche Mode says, “Everything counts in large amounts”. Flores was the architect of a poor staff. I’m not picking on him because he’s gone, just stating the obvious. I can’t say whether his first season’s plan was just to work with guys familiar to him, or he simply had no NFL ties and took what he could get. In 2019, He brought both OC Chad O’Shea and DC Patrick Graham from the New England Patriots. In 2020, Flores tabbed long time NFL’er Chan Gailey, who was probably pretty sure he was never ever going to coach again, and named him OC. Not that Chan Gailey wasn’t qualified, but I’m sure Flores’ call was the ONLY call Chan Gailey received as far as NFL offers were concerned. Chan Gailey departs so in 2021, Flores has the brilliant idea of naming Co-OC’s (supposedly in order to keep any teams from stealing them away), so 2020 Tight Ends Coach George Godsey and 2020 Running Backs Coach Eric Studesville are promoted together to form the NFL’s first 2 headed Offensive Coordinator Duo. Sometimes having more is better, The Tucker had a center headlight in addition to the 2 common ones on either side of the front of the vehicle. The center headlight actually turned left when the car was turning left and right when the car was turning right. Ingenious! The Co-CO idea, not so much. The Dolphins offense was 22nd in the NFL scoring 20.1 PPG and if not for the defense setting up the offense so many times, it would have been considerably worse.
I’m going to recommend something I know many of you here won’t be in favor of. I can tell you, I’m not sure I’m in favor it myself. Hear me out though. You can build for now, or build for later. Instant gratification or long term success. Either can be satisfying. The problem with my recommendation is that one important step needs to happen before this can even be possible. Michigan Head Coach Jim Harbaugh needs to step down from his current post. If that happens, I think we should be the first, and most likely the last to offer him a Head Coaching position in the NFL. When you hire a guy from the college ranks, you get a guy who knows all the college players, what they’re capable of, who the right ones are for what they want to accomplish, on both sides of the ball. What you usually get is a guy who doesn’t know the NFL, and how to deal with NFL players. Not the case with Harbaugh, who has successfully run an NFL team, quite successfully I might add. From 2011-2014, Jim Harbaugh compiled a 44-19 record with the SF 49ers. He did that with 2 QB’s who were not considered upper echelon talents in Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick. For some reference, Alex Smith was 19-31 in 5 seasons as the Niners QB. With Harbaugh, his first season was 13-3. His 2nd season was cut short due to injury but the Niners were 6-2-1 with Smith. So 19-2-1 for one and a half seasons after 19-31 in 5 without Harbaugh. We all know who took over after Alex Smith went down, my former crush Colin Kaepernick. No problem for Harbaugh. Kaepernick after taking over the helm went 5-2 and took the Niners to the playoffs. A huge upset 1st RD victory over the Green Bay Packers, 45-31 started an improbable run. The Niners then defeated the Atlanta Falcons 28-24 to earn a Super Bowl berth. The SF 49ers lost a thriller of a game, 34-31 to the Baltimore Ravens.
Still with me? My favorite MLB team the NY Mets made a very similar move recently. They decided to bring in a proven winner in Buck Showalter. Results have yet to be determined and if the bougy MLB Players Union doesn’t get it’s collective head out of its ass, we may not see a MLB season next year. The Mets have decided instead of hiring a young up and comer, they want to win NOW! Forget 3-5 years from now, NOW! They know Showalter knows exactly what he’s supposed to do in every and any situation, there’s nothing he hasn’t seen. The very same would go with Jim Harbaugh. I think it’s an extremely unique situation to be able to get a guy who is so in touch with the college game and all the players, yet has had tremendous NFL success as well. I say if Jim Harbaugh steps down as Michigan HC, Stephen Ross should fly one of his fucking planes as fast as they can fly and throw down some stacks of $$$$ to secure the best Head Coach for RIGHT NOW, the Dolphins can get. Personally, I think Harbaugh is a bit of a time bomb, and I have no idea how long he can last if he comes back to the NFL. My guess is it would be a similar gig to the Niners. He’d stay as long as they were winning. That’s not a terrible thing either. If for some reason he fails right off the bat, which I think is unlikely, he may try one more time. If he fails again I would think he’d step down and disappear and we’d probably want him to. I think if he does come back to the NFL, I think he’d be great for our team. Our defense would continue to flourish and he’d get Tua a run game if it killed him. Defense, running the ball, all the things we crave here. All that will make Tua better and more importantly, the Miami Dolphins better.
I’m open to other HC’s too, there are lots of ways to skin a cat. I actually don’t know how many ways there are and not sure why people think are so many ways to skin a cat, but there really are a lot of different avenues to explore in a Head Coach search. I’m sure Tom Garfinkel and Chris Grier are doing that as I type. Maybe it’s because I’m 58 now and my mortality is in the back of my mind. Who knows, maybe Mike McDaniel is the next Mike Tomlin. At 38 he’s a tad older than Tomlin was when he took over the Pittsburgh Steelers at the age of 35. To have continuity and longevity along with winning would be swell, but make no mistake about this my fellow Dolphins fans, the Miami Dolphins franchise is NOT the Pittsburgh Steelers franchise. The Steelers are steeped in tradition and their owner doesn’t flip-flop on their decisions. Since 1969, The Steelers had HC Chuck Knoll 1969-1991, Bill Cowher 1991-2006, then Mike Tomlin from 2007 – present. Not only do they have consistency, but they WIN. So do I crave the same? I would wait until we clean house of our current GM before heading out on that path, which is another strong reason I prefer Harbaugh. With Harbaugh at the helm, it’s gonna be his way or the HAR-way. If Chris Grier didn’t like Brian Flores, he’s gonna hate Harbaugh, because this would be his show, guaranteed. He won’t allow Grier to undermine him and his cachet dictates that he deserves as much. Unfortunately, Harbaugh may have no intentions of leaving his current post, but if he does . . .
To elaborate on some great news we got yesterday, I’d like to share that I also got to speak to Jon “Stanger” yesterday, and considering what that man has been through, I was absolutely shocked as to how great he sounded. As I’m typing now I’m literally getting goosebumps and tearing up because he literally sounded just like the old Stanger, and that’s not being kind, or overenthusiastic or wishful, that boy is BACK! Now he needs to get his body back to where his head is and he’ll be in better shape at the next Fest than he was at the last. He’s currently just dealing with atrophy from being in a bed so long, and I believe he will respond very well to rehab, both occupational and physical therapy. I have to give both Jon and his wife a lot of credit, they really clawed back from some tough odds. Maybe our Dolphins can do the same!
#stangerstrong
GO DOLPHINS!!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
So I’ve tried to figure out what exactly went on during that Bills punt in the 4th quarter.
The Bills punted, one of the Bills voluntarily went out of bounds on the coverage and was flagged, and the Chiefs were also flagged for a personal foul low block on the return. The refs went and talked to Andy Reid, announced the penalties, then stated that KC has elected to replay the down.
I can’t figure out how this was ruled. First, the NFL has a 15/5 rule, a major penalty overrules a minor penalty. I looked it up and confirmed the out of bounds is a 5 yd penalty and the personal foul was a 15 yd penalty.
So, first I’m not sure why that play didn’t stand with the Chiefs having the ball and being assessed a 15 yard penalty on the return.
I looked at the boxscore, and the boxscore says they were offsetting penalties. Ok, if the penalties were offsetting, then you replay the down. Why did KC have the ‘option’ to replay the down like the ref announced?
Neither coach made an issue of it, and I can’t find a single article on it the day after, so there must be something I’m missing, but for the life of me, I can’t figure out what it is.
Ha! Just found it. It still doesn’t explain the 15/5 rule not being enforced, I imagine that’s just an exception somewhere in there (I’m not going to bother looking for it), but here is the rule that explains why KC had the option to replay the down as offsetting or just enforce their own 15 yd penalty and lose the yardage.
Basically, since the Bills foul was prior to the Chiefs gaining possession, the Chiefs had an option.
Under Section 3, article 1:
Exceptions:
(1) If the kickers foul during a kickoff, punt, safety kick, or field-goal attempt before possession changes, the receivers will have the option of replaying the down at the previous spot (offsetting fouls), or keeping the ball after enforcement for its fouls.
Click to access 17_Rule14_Penalty_Enforcement.pdf
I think they just messed up the explanation. The effect of what happened was off setting penalties which is what I think it officially was
Or that
Just found the rule, posted above.
They explained it right, it’s just a weird enforcement that I can’t recall ever having seen before- a team having a choice to accept the play and take a loss of yardage on offsetting penalties.
lol, yep
I think the idea behind that exception is this:
Bills kickoff and get flagged for running out of bounds on the coverage. Chiefs return the ball and score a TD, but at the 5 yd line right before they score, they’re flagged for a block in the back. The NFL sayd the Chiefs really shouldn’t be penalized with offsetting fouls negating that entire good play (similar to holding being penalized from the spot of the foul if it’s past the line of scrimmage instead of the original line). They have the option to take the return and have a 10 yard penalty tacked on taking them back to the 15 instead of rekicking.
We probably see it fairly often as offsetting not realizing the receiving team actually had a choice, since you’d only accept your penalty if you had a really good return
That was right after they lost to the pets in the AFC championship game the same way they won last night.
If Brady and the Pets had lost that game, we’d already have new OT rules.
Yeah and if they won it they’d be perfectly fine with the rule. LOL
Lol, yep
Tim Knight says:
January 24, 2022 at 4:13 pm
I have a feeling Brian Daboll is going to be the HC of the Giants.
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Lot of rumors that its Flores’ job. I dunno though your in the area ya probably got a better idea. I think Daboll is who we want, and the way i feel about it is they should make the move soon and with as much gusto as needed to secure the top choice this time not scavenge the leftovers. Dan Quinn i think would be a decent option, Peterson maybe. I am not feeling that little kid from SF, he looks like someone id try to stand away from on a train/subway because he looks like he would reek of patchouli and body odor. Id be preety good with McDaniels out of NE though i have a feeling he stays there and keeps praying Belichick has a stroke at a presser.
Why don’t they just tweak it: if the first team who has the ball scores, the other team gets a possession to match or win. If they both have a possession and it is still tied, it is sudden death from there.
I understand both sides of the argument. The thing that bothers most people is a coin flip is what possibly decides the game. Especially in a game that was tied 36-36.
It wouldn’t in my scenario. Just keep it like it is but give the other team the ball even if the first scores a TD
I get that but I think the reason it is the way it is, is the NFL doesn’t want OT to go on forever. If both teams score TDs, now the team who won the coin toss and scored first can win it with a FG so we’re back to another advantage. With the way it is now, if the team that gets the ball first does not score a TD or a FG, the other team can win it with just a FG. I think there was a lot discussed in deciding these rules. The main one for me is the league does not want 5 and 6 quarter games and still tied.
I think, instead of a coin flip going forward
They should pay me $50,000
Then I’ll pick who goes first
Problem solved!
LOL
How about both teams get a possession and if they both score TDs, next is a FG competition from 58 yards. Odds are is both kickers aren’t going 3-3. Someone is going to miss. Kind of like a shootout in hockey. This keeps exhausted players from having to play long OT games. Injuries are more prominent when players are tired.
How about stop somebody for once?
I get that too, but the defenses were exhausted and those are two high powered offenses.
Hire that weird dude from the 49ers
Pay Davante Adams whatever he wants and roll from there.
It all comes down to $$$, and in primetime viewership.
Follow the $$$ and you’ll find your answer.
That and the players union and player safety. They’re not getting paid overtime either. 😉
^
That’s the reality. We can bicker about it, but “it is what it is”. 😉
As long as every team knows the deal going in, prepare for it.
The only way we’re going to know if Tua can be a championship QB is to put an OL in front of him that is at least adequate and surround him with playmakers. Let’s not act like the top QBs have no weapons on offense. They all do. We’re not good enough on offense due to a lack of skill players. We’re okay. Other teams are really good. Load up in 2022.
Yes, it’s easier said than done though. A lot of teams will be looking to upgrade their OL this offseason. There will be a lot of competition.
Agreed but that’s we have to do.
I know not everyone here is a Fantasy Football guy but I’ve doing it for 32 years, and I was acting as a consultant for a friend in a league he is in that has all sorts of games to the Super Bowl after the typical FF season. FF is all about production. This year from what I saw the only Dolphins on a majority of FF teams were Waddle, Gaskin, the hot hand for a few weeks with Duke, a few with Parker and Gesicki and the Dolphins DEF/STs mainly down the stretch. Tua was a backup here and there. Only Waddle was a regular starter for FF teams.
The playoff teams loaded the FFL rosters. It does tell the story of the season.
Fortunately we have lots of cap space and no state income tax
When you watched these playoff games the last two weeks, you’re not seeing bombs away football. A few here and there, but most of the game is run to at least keep it honest, short and medium range passing game, defense and STs. The difference is the least mistakes made by QBs and players that make big plays. Receivers who get YAC and backs who break runs. We don’t have enough playmakers on offense. I know I repeat myself on this but it’s really obvious now. LOL
I’m building around Tua and Waddle and revamping everything else. Sure some guys we already have or will re-sign (Hollins-WR/STs) will be part of that for competition and depth, but I don’t see other must keep players on offense. You can’t draft Tua at #5 in 2020 coming off of an injury, working his way into the NFL with a sub par offense and say yeah he’s not the answer after 2 seasons. That’s just stupid! Oh yeah he’s 13-8 in games he plays but he’s the problem. LOL
Tim,
Offenses just aren’t all that different. Football isn’t that complicated. Teams have always figured out different ways to window dress…different sorts of alignments or motion or what have you….but most teams run similar offenses. Even in the playoffs we’ve been seeing some terrible OL play. Even so, guys like Brady, Mahomes and Allen were all getting pressured and sacked a lot. All their OLs looked bad.
Right! Playmakers make the difference. Deebo Samuel doesn’t catch 65 yard deep throws for TDs, he catches a slant and takes it to the house. He runs the ball and takes it to the house. That’s what I’m talking about.
We see 1st and 10, 2nd and 6, 3rd and 4 etc. often in games. Big plays change games. Like you said everyone is doing the same thing. Playmakers help you get to the next level.
You always said it’s about talent. I agree. 😉
Now lets go get sum!!!! LOL
Ken, yes and we have a good draft even though the SF pick is falling lower and lower, lol. 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 7, 7 is a solid draft. Our cap space allows us to add key positions before we even draft. Build around Tua!!!!
I want 2 vet starters on the OL, 2 new RB, 3 new WR and maybe another TE. That’s 8 players. It’s not that much to ask for in FA and the draft.
Yeah we need some additions on defense mainly because of FA, but it’s not as much as offense. We have to start scoring 24+ or more on offense.
JUST SAW TWO headlines on ESPN’s tracker that caught my eye.
1) ESPN announced that Dick Vitale will NOT appear on any more basketball telecasts this season. I hope that doesn’t mean his cancer has reappeared. I think he’s 82 and has previously been ruled in remission. I know he’s bombastic and he gets on some people’s nerves. But I’ve NEVER DOUBTED his love for the game and his endless enthusiasm for promoting it.
2) The owner of the Saints confirms the organization does not know if Sean Peyton will (or wants to) return as head coach of that franchise.. Is he burned out? Or does he want to move on to a different franchise? In either case, I don’t believe the Dolphins should pursue him. We need someone in their 30’s or early 40’s, not someone approaching their 59th birthday. Plus, I don’t think there’s enough money in the world to get Peyton to work for someone like Ross. My best guess is that Ross will wait until most of the big names have found a coaching job, then he’ll make a move for someone who is less experienced, and cheaper, than some of the big names that are mentioned frequently. This guy will, like all of Ross’s prior coaches, fail miserably and end up getting fired around Ross’s 85th or 86th birthday.
Bring on Bruce Beal!!!
I would hire Sean Payton as HC in a second. His run in New Orleans might be up because the team has been decimated by injuries and Drew Brees retired. But he’s under contract. It would have to involve draft picks to pry him away from the Saints unless they fired him.
I think he would be great for Tua.
NO WAY PAYTON works for Ross.
OD, I have no idea if he would or not. I don’t agree with you as you know, that not everything Ross does is bad. The Dolphins facilities are best in class and he has never been cheap signing players. Remember Suh? X and Byron Jones.
Would you be willing to give up our 1st round draft pick this year and one of our two 1st round draft picks next year to get Sean Payton as our HC in 2022?
I would. I think he’s a top HC who would get our offense on track and hire a good DC to keep the defense ascending.
Since we have two 1sts in 2023 and our 1st this year is going to be pick #87 by the time the playoffs end anyway, I’d do it in a heartbeat, lol.
Honestly though, I think Tua’s skill set is very similar to Brees and Payton would probably be the best hire possible for us with Tua at QB.
LOL and yep!
Or just get Harbaugh and keep your picks!
Mike, I’m not sure what we’re going to do at HC. I think Sean Payton is on the Andy Reid level. They will get you to the playoffs most of the time. You can’t win it if you’re not in it.
TIM; PAY BETTER attention to what I write.
FIRST; I DON’t go to a stadium to see the stadium (hence my appreciation for the old, somewhat decrepit, Orange Bowl during its heyday.
SECOND; I NEVER SAID Ross was cheap getting his players. Indeed, just the opposite often is true. He has OVERPAID for what he got out of Suh and some other bigger name players.
THIRD; TO REITERATE, he WON’T pay the going rate for Payton and other big name coaches. IN FACT, he called in Brian Billick (when Billick still was a big name) ostensibly to discuss the Dolphins’ HC job. But, instead, he turned it into a screaming contest, berating Billick for losing the prior season to Miami and, according to Ross, costing him an extra 1 million dollars (far less than 1 per cent of the purchase price) when he, Ross, bought the Fins from Huizenga!!
ROSS IS FAMOUS for waiting until the “big name” candidates are signed, sealed and delivered, then spending less money on unproven or relatively inexperienced guys for the HC job (Dan Campbell and Tony Sparano come to mind in this regard). NO WONDER he’s had so many failures!!!
SO, TIM, criticize me for what I say—that’s fair game. But DON’T CRITICIZE ME for things I have not said and don’t believe in.
TIME to walk the greyhound and hit the sack–The Old Dolfan is out!
Okay I’m just silly. LOL
What you said is what you said. It’s on record.
Mike, I’d take Harbaugh too. I want a proven head coach that has a history of winning. I’m tired of the next new thing and I don’t want a retread that has never been that successful.
CavalierKong says:
January 24, 2022 at 5:40 pm
If Brady and the Pets had lost that game, we’d already have new OT rules.
We’re you just joking?
I’m sure you know how new rules get put in, or at least have an idea
At the annual meeting, the Competition Committee presents a report of its findings to the 32 owners, who vote on any proposed new rules or rules changes. To be adopted, a new rule or a revision must have the support of 75 percent of the owners (24 yes votes out of 32 clubs).
Yes I know the owners vote on rules changes, it was tongue in cheek based on a kernel of truth like most of the things we say about Brady and/ or the Pets.
I imagine the NFL owners club is like any other leadership organization and there are top dogs and factions. If Kraft wanted that rule changed, maybe he could make it happen, maybe not, either way it was a joke. 😉
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Holy shit rock .. You’re the man !! I use an IPad and haven’t been able to post for months. Thanks for the help 👍🐕
Interesting! check out the last photo
One of the replies
Funny!
But that 13 Seconds has very little to do with Allen.
Or Tua
Yeah, but it does have to do with the Bills choking, and there’s always room for that in any discussion.
But Allen bit as a pup, at least he did against us, showing some of the same dynamic plays
Really hate when someone compares a player to a player, that struggled early in his career, then made it, as if it’s the norm
So out of many, that struggled early, one rose from the depths to be great somehow shows this player is going to do the same
Yeah, if that comparison is to me made, then all of the high drafted QBs who sucked their first 2 years, and ALSO continued to suck after that, should be included.
Call it hack reporting, or wishful/hopeful reporting
The Bills lost, because of the retarded D play calls, and of course we interviewed this maroon
Leslie Frazier, what are you doing?
As bad as our Pitt game before the half in 2019, when we called an all out blitz on 3rd and long from about the 50 resulting in an easy TD on a short pass
I guess that’s good, but these guys don’t know shit from shinola, just writing something
As each day passes and we don’t hear anything about a Harbaugh interview, think it’s safe to say he’s not leaving Michigan
There was a report/rumor he was just trying to get more $ from Michigan and maybe let Ross know, could be why Ross said what he said
This might sound contradictory to my last post, but logically the further out it goes the closer we get to him staying put
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Rock thank you so much. That worked 🙂
I agree with folks that want an experienced HC. How come Peterson is not being considered? I don’t get that.
sorry Pederson.
Interesting tweet thread
Yeah, UK. Funny I watched a similar video this morning of all his long passes. He can do it and with accuracy. He just doesn’t have a cannon.
I then watched some Drew Brees video’s and saw the same in Tua and actually Tua looked to have a stronger arm.
Then, I watched a long video of all Tua’s passes last season. IMO, the dink and dunk is what was being called and that was what Tua was taking. There may have been an open receiver farther down field, but the play called was the shorter route. He made the pass the play called for as far as the design.
Problem with that offense was we didn’t/don’t have the playmakers to get the YAC except for Waddle. You look at the Chiefs offense. Mahomes is throwing the same passes as Tua. Chiefs just have multiple players that get YAC (Hill, Kelcie, Hardman, Pringle and Edwards-Hellaire).
We have Waddle and…
Of course, they had better game planners, better coaching and better play calling.
Don’t agree, a pass play is called with routes of different lengths, Tua chooses more often than not to throw short, if the throw is quick it’s likely called, but not if he’s going thru his progressions
The video is very short, because he doesn’t throw downfield enough, most of it were passes to Gesicki, so maybe there’s a priority to re-sign him
Also, when you have a big arm you can get the ball into tight windows quickly, before the S gets over, allowing you to throw more deep passes, it also puts fear into a D, which softens it up for short stuff and runs, ORob’s main point
Time will tell BBM. Assuming we get another decent FA period/Draft?
Here is an interesting mock. I like the picks except for #100. I think taking DE Isaiah Thomas there is too high.
https://dolphinstalk.com/2022/01/early-full-7-round-miami-dolphins-mock-draft/
I need to look at more small school receivers. His 4th round receiver looks good. He is 6’5 208 and runs a low 4.4. Dude can run well after the catch with his size. I like him. I would almost take him at 100 and DE Thomas later.
I like his LB pick as well, David Anenih 6’3 249
Don’t think we need the TE pick though if we resign Smythe as a blocking TE and then we have Long.
Crap shoot on these WRs from small schools, combine is very important to them
We drafted a guy in the 7th years ago, he had size and speed and went to a major U, he also went to my HS, but didn’t make it on the Fins, had a few years with decent numbers for Colts
Devin Aromashodu was his name, just looked him up and found out that my QB in HS, I played TE, Craig Jay played TE for the Packers in 1987
Craig had a friggin Canon of an arm, but no touch, he’d throw a pop pass my way with all he had, like Tannehill his first few years
It’s that time again for you guys living the the northeast
https://www.accuweather.com/en/winter-weather/another-snowstorm-is-in-the-cards-for-the-east-coast/1130340
It’s already snowed twice in the last 2 weeks
For what it’s worth?????
Okay…
You would think of Daboll was the hire he would have been hired within a couple of days of Buffalo losing
So I think that some silence on the hire does imply leaning towards McDaniel
Doesn’t sound like he’s fn around, this one could be true
Phindog says:
January 25, 2022 at 7:03 am
Holy shit rock .. You’re the man !! I use an IPad and haven’t been able to post for months. Thanks for the help 👍🐕
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You and every other Iphone user are welcome! I stumbled across the answer one day f’n around and it worked!
What’s the Android workaround please. Can’t post from my phone at all.
Didn’t we get a first round next year too?
Yes (2023).
Schaddy reporting Joe
Should’ve read a 2023 1st and gave up our spot in 2022 first for one of last 1st rd picks
Or if he really had a clue, would’ve said, if the SF pick in 2023 is around 30 we got Waddle and gave up Pitts
Meet George Jetson…
As we expected, all 3 made the list
No doubt that we had a killer draft!
Not so sure Chase puts up better numbers than Waddle did for us
People always try to compare drafted players and assume, if we had taken A instead of B, that A would’ve performed the same for us
How many SBs would Brady have, if he was drafted by Detroit
Wow. Sean Payton left the Saints.
He knows you need a QB
And we hand delivered Brees to him
I think he’s burnt out.
So at the moment, it sounds like Sean Payton will take a year off to contemplate his future. He’s under contract with the Saints through 2024.
Clearly, he needs a break. I wouldn’t want to take him on at the moment.
Agreed on all accounts.
They are in a spiral. Way over cap and no QB…..he’s jumping ship
That’s 3 more years, we should be due for another HC then
I would call, making a decision and telling everyone, opening up, not spewing a bunch of BS Belicheat wrote for him😉
ukfinfan says:
January 25, 2022 at 2:10 pm
What’s the Android workaround please. Can’t post from my phone at all.
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LOL!!
I am sorry UKfinfan, I don’t have an android phone so I can’t help you.
I only figured out the solution for Iphone because I messed around with it until it worked.
it MAY work the same UK, I just noticed the three dots show up on my desktop version of the site too. when you go to this site on your Android try clicking on the three little dots at the bottom right side of the page and select “log in” from there. That’s how it works for Iphone.
I sure hope he’s right!
You would expect him to get a pay increase as a UFA after his two seasons with us. The numbers he put out there would be a bargain for Ogbah. I’d be surprised if he was that cheap.
Agreed
Only 10 mil per?! That would be great for us…
The Sean Payton press conference is live now on NFLN. In this day and age is it impossible to set it up so you can actually hear the questions?
If I were Ross, I’d do whatever it takes to get Payton in here in 2022. Yes he says he doesn’t wanna coach this year but money talks.
He was getting paid a lot in New Orleans. He just walked away from 2 more years of it. It’s not about money for him. Sounds to me like he wants to sit back and evaluate where he is in life and then see if he has the desire to coach in the future. I don’t think it will be in 2022 based on everything he has said.
So some reports out there are that we do like Mike McDaniel for HC. Not sure if he’s the #1 choice but it could end being him if Daboll goes to the Giants. I think it will be one of those two.
If we do hire Mike McDaniel as HC, expect the Shanahan/Kubiak offense that is based on the zone running game and play-action passing game. To me that fits Tua. Lots of under center, waggles and boots.
Not to mention he has been a run game coordinator prior to being OC. I would hope the OL finally gets fixed. Maybe he can get Laken Tomlinson to follow him.
He’s worked under Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak and now Kyle Shanahan. He was also the WRs coach under Dan Quinn in ATL for a couple of years. So he’s learned from some good coaches. He’s been a coach in the NFL for 14 years so maybe he is ready.
The entire offense will need to be revised and retooled but that had to happen anyway.
McDaniel was a WR coach for a chunk of his career. I say hell no to a WR guy as a HC! Lol
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Seriously, the guy has bounced around from one position coach to another. He’s been a RB coach. A WR coach. An offensive assistant/coach. A running game coach/coordinator. Feels like Gase all over.
Gase built his credentials on Payton Manning
Which in retrospect is kind of silly
Why compare someone to another person with a negative spin? Most coaches work their way up coaching different positions. So did Flores. He’s been involved with the running game for 4 years in SF before becoming the OC this season.
If you saw the video posted not long ago of him talking about the importance of WRs blocking in the run game you might like what he said. 🙂
If McDaniels can fix our oline and run game, that’s great; and if not he looks like he can serve the hell out of a mocha frappuccino…so bonus I guess.
lol. I’ll take a half double decaf half caf with a twist of lemon.
Piggy,
No, Gase’s “reputation” was made by media hype and fans. There were some of us who kept asking what the hell he’d actually done to deserve a shot at a HC position. I believe even Manning said something about not being a fan of his and that he actually taught Gase about the offense. Only fans who wanted the “offensive guru” that he was supposed to be kept saying he “made” Manning. Anybody who knew football knew that was BS.
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Sound like anybody we might hire?
I don’t know where you’re getting that from. The reason Gase became a HC candidate is because Peyton was a big fan of Gase. He lobbied to keep Gase as OC in 2015 in Denver when John Fox was fired and brought Gase with him to Chicago.
I’m sorry. I’m just really negative on this team right now. Ignore me! I’m sure we’ll do our best to hire the next great HC. I’ll be following the team regardless, so I’m just whining! Lol
LOL, like the rest of us.
BBM – Yeah man, I’d love to get Laken Tomlinson here. He’s solid, and he plays the whole season. Still, holding out meager hope for Harbaugh though . . .
steveccnv says:
January 25, 2022 at 10:27 am
I guess that’s good, but these guys don’t know shit from shinola, just writing something
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So odd how things work in this world. Just a little bit earlier I was thinking about that phrase, it just randomly popped in my head and I thought maybe was my dad speaking to me from the beyond just because that was one of his favorite phrases and I really hadn’t heard it since his passing and then I get on here just now and see this post. Spooky.
My dad used to say that all the time too, but that was before he retired, he’s different now
I’m really hoping we don’t hire scraggly beard out of SF. I don’t mind a new coach hire but I’d rather that coach have a little bit of a track record in coaching and not be as old as some of my socks.
That guy needs to stay in the state of California where he belongs. Lol
If we did hire McDaniel there is no doubt the running game will be a priority and that the entire offense will be revamped at every position. The OL will need to be mobile in the zone scheme, TEs and WRs have to block. I’m not sure a bell cow RB is necessary but if you find one that’s great. The 49ers seem to get it done with anyone at RB.
I like what the potential on offense could look like under McDaniel. Can he command the room and coach the entire team? Not sure. Can he bring in a good staff? Not sure. But the difference in him and Gase is he believes in the run game first. He knows that a running game and a good defense can win. His team as first year OC is in the NFC Championship game. It’s not always pretty but it wins in the big moment. But along the way, the 49ers make big plays on offense.
McDaniel has seen what a lot of good football looks like. I’ve warmed up to him reading more into his history. He’s not a 4-5 year coach genius guy. He started his journey to be a coach in 2005 as an intern under Mike Shanahan in Denver. He’s not green. He’s been doing this for 16+ years now and he’s coaching in the NFC Championship game.
I forgot to mention he’s coached in two Super Bowls adding to “has seen what a lot of good football looks like.”
Tim,
I agree if he’s to coach this year it has to be the right situation. Miami doesn’t sound like a bad place to move your family too 🙂
I think I’m just hoping it can be done more than anything else.
Sorry for the double post. Not sure what happened there
Tim,
I agree if he’s to coach this year it has to be the right situation. Miami doesn’t sound like a bad place to move your family too 🙂
I think I’m just hoping it can be done more than anything else.
I’m gonna go get the paper, the paper! LOL
I hear ya, based on what he said and his demeanor, he came off as a guy who wants to step away for a bit.
What’s up finch fuckers ? Glad I’m able to post again. Been along time. I read the blog everyday and was frustrated that I missed some of the convos. It’s good to be back. 🐕
What happened?
Glad to see you on Doggy
Thanks Ken and thanks so much for the Stanger updates
#Stangerstrong 💪
I had a problem with IOS and WordPress and Rock posted how to fix it and boom I’m back. I tried clearing cache and still couldn’t post. I figured iPad / iPhone what’s the difference .
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I wish McDaniel had some direct play calling experience but if he is really going to be the hire I will not be disappointed. I love the offense SF runs and the commitment they make to the run game. I would love to see that for us. It doesn’t seem matter to who the RB is SF finds a way to run the ball
I think play calling is overrated. All the coaches involved know what the plays are and likely what will be called. Who knows McDaniel might hire an OC to do that as he has to coach the entire team as a HC. That’s all I want, a HC who knows it’s his job to coach the entire team and not be a specialist. His philosophy and vision is fine, just don’t focus on one side of the ball.
The one area where I think play calling experience is clock management. Philbin who wasn’t a play caller struggled with it as did Flores
Fair enough, Ken.
And for something completely different:
he’s gonna bring Gase as his OC. lol
See what I mean? Every time someone interviews they’re the next favorite
Well I’m hearing from a reputable source…yeah go F yourself you clickbait whore
Just fucking hire someone and get on with it.
Helluva hockey game between Panthers and Jets.
WTF is hockey? 🤓
It’s played in your ice covered driveway… welcome back Kotter
My hires would be:
HC Pederson
OC Nagy
DC Fangio
If McDaniels is hired, I wonder who his OC and DC would be if he was choosing his own guys vs. keeping Boyer on.
DC could be Mike Pettine, Richard Smith or Jim Haslett just based off of assocations. That’s if he goes the veteran route.
I feel like you could throw Pederson, McDaniels and Quinn in a bowl and pick one out with your eyes closed. I won’t feel a damn thing about any of them. None of them would make me feel like “Yeah man, that’s the guy to take us where we need to be”. I just hope whatever move we make is the right one.
Other than Foaming Harbaugh, who would you pick?
I don’t see another HC prospect that does it for me. They would all be wait and see. Pederson less so because he did win a Super Bowl. I think he’s probably the best, but it’s odd as to why he’s not a hot candidate around the NFL. I wonder what’s missing.
Yeah it is kind of weird, but maybe owners at looking at the up and coming hot new guys. He’s had a few interviews. Not sure why he’s not on our list with the island of misfits toys we’re looking to interview.
There’s so much angst out there it makes me miss David’s morning rants!
LMAO 🤣
Masochist?
Randy says:
January 25, 2022 at 6:28 pm
McDaniel was a WR coach for a chunk of his career. I say hell no to a WR guy as a HC! Lol
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Seriously, the guy has bounced around from one position coach to another. He’s been a RB coach. A WR coach. An offensive assistant/coach. A running game coach/coordinator. Feels like Gase all over.
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Isn’t that how you’d train a manager?
My friend got a job in a supermarket a few months ago, he said he was starting out stocking, then on to each dept every couple of months, then on to manager
Undercover Boss show, the owner goes into the trenches to see why his company is failing
I’d like an HC that already knows something about the underlying parts of a team
Otherwise just hire a drill Sargent
When I hear this guy is now the favorite…the only one that really made me feel like it was a good choice was McDaniel
Cringed at Joseph, not sure about Daboll, but felt pissed, when I heard he may coach the Giants, the others just meh
What’s the deal with land prices?
Looking at some land in FL and it seems the last year and a half people think they should be able to double or triple its value
Looked here in LV and in Carson City and it’s worse, half an acre in shitty part of town for 300k and its residential land
Same thing with every other price
I saw you mention 300k without reading the rest of the post and thought to myself “huh, bacon is just as expensive in Las Vegas as it is here in Sacto.”
COVID refugees are driving up prices.
Everything Biden related, but people still support him
(Bears and Broncos) Good, less chance we hire him.
Yeah
Little bit of success he had was due to being a D guy and having Matty Ice on O
I’d like to do the same from the other side, get an O HC and leave the D alone, that’s why McD makes sense
it looks like Leftwich is going to the jags
Another good for us for the same reason, 1 less HC candidate I don’t want
I kind of want to see him have success there, given he couldn’t do it when he was playing QB.
I’m heavily leaning towards Daboll, i just don’t care much for the McDaniel hire. Ill roll with whatever, i don’t think any of them are poop (other than Joseph, i didn’t like that idea) but i much prefer Daboll over any we have heard so far.
what do you like about Daboll? I really don’t know any of these first time HC guys. I include Joseph in that bunch.
Daboll is intriguing, because of his previous experience with Tua and what he did for Allen
Just wasn’t real impressed with him, when he was our OC, but he knows Tua, so if he took the job you’d think he’d be able to improve Tua or at least he’d think he can
If McDaniel becomes our coach, the locker room music will be played on vinyl.
and will consist of Blink 182 and the Red Hot Chili Peppers
I was thinking it might be Skrillex all day every day lol.
That kid doesnt have a clue about RHCP they were all way past their teddy bear pants phase by time he was born lol. They probably had stopped doing heroine by then too.
There’s so much angst out there it makes me miss David’s morning rants!
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Liar! LOL
You said whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…….
When I heard about the women coming forward on Watson, I wanted it to be true, because I hate Watson for his mutinous behavior
All along I wondered how offended these women really were, I mean after all they give massages and would have seen a lot and been thru a lot, and not be offended to the point they need counseling
The lady that first spoke had a problem with what he did, but was ok with giving him another massage, if he promised to be professional
If it was just an average Joe, would any of these women have given it a second thought, without the scumbag lawyer bringing things together?
A lawyer that lives down the street from Texan’s owner
Something stinks with this whole thing, like a sort of setup, not a complete setup as in he did nothing, but I’d bet the Texans were out for revenge and got things going to get Watson
In the end what he did was wrong and he should be punished for his behavior and I hope he is, but let’s not make it out to be more than it was
Peyton had a similar incident while at Tenn, don’t remember people being all worked up about his behavior
Reason I bring this up is, with a new coach comes new players, what if the guy we hire wants Watson?
For the record I don’t want Watson, want Tua to be given every chance
Think we may be an instant contender with Watson though
It all depends on Steve Ross, man… and it seems he doesn’t even know what he wants. We’ll see what happens…
I think all the hooplah around Watson was Flores’ doing. I think the person inside the organization was Flores, and most the information leaking was probably Flores’ and i think if it hadnt been, Flores would be coaching next year with Miami.
That firing was pretty inexplicable outside of some level of dissention matching an action like that.
boulderfinfan says:
January 26, 2022 at 11:46 am
what do you like about Daboll? I really don’t know any of these first time HC guys. I include Joseph in that bunch.
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Pretty much the same reason as Steve said though i see the connection with Tua to be the lesser of the reasons. He has done a great job installing and creating a system to work with Josh Allen’s strengths and turn around what was a pretty slow start with him as a QB and really expedited the maturation process. Buffalo was always the mediocre offensive team with a bad ass defense and yunder Daboll they have been a pretty damn powerful offensive team. I mean hell they just duked it out with probably the NFL’s best offense and almost came out on top.
Should’ve come out on top
We’d be on suicide watch, if that happened to us
Who was the holder on the fg attempt, in the snow against Dallas, on Thanksgiving Day in the ’90s, Leon touched the ball giving us a second attempt and win?
Was it Pederson? Just guessing because of the coach search discussions.
Yes
This is good to hear.
The Dolphins have the most cap space heading into 2022 of any team in the league, in excess of $70 million, according to overthecap.com.
You have the right name
What have you been hiding under for the last 2 months?
Wise-ass, I knew we were in good shape, but I hadn’t read that we had the MOST space of any team. I did scroll past a lot of argumentative self aggrandizing chest thumping about which site to listen too and who is stupid for believing which site, blah blah.
LOL Christian Wilkins is one of my favorite personalities on the team. HE GONNA MAKE SURE THE REFS KNOW HE IS ELIGABLE!
I don’t see any reports about Doug Pederson being considered for a HC job. Maybe he didn’t throw his hat in the ring and teams know this.
Adios, Wink. Who wants a DC with the name of a 70s game show host anyway…
I kept trying to draft a WR in the first and Linderbaum kept dropping to us. I did 4 straight mocks with different big boards on Fanspeak and every time Linderbaum who was ranked no lower than #8 on any board kept dropping to us at 30. I think this one worked out well.
TEAM PICKS
30: R1 P30 WR Jameson Williams – Alabama
50: R2 P18 RB Kenneth Walker III – Michigan State
98: R3 P34 LB Damone Clark – LSU
118: R4 P16 G Sean Rhyan – UCLA
122: R4 P20 WR Jaivon Heiligh – Coastal Carolina
157: R5 P15 TE Jake Ferguson – Wisconsin
179: R5 P37 FB Jeremiah Hall – Oklahoma
200: R6 P21 K Blake Mazza – SMU
222: R7 P3 P Matt Araiza – San Diego State
yeah, yeah, yeah, too many picks. I know, but I will take em when they give em!
Wasn’t Wink Martindale a gameshow host?
Dang it, you beat me to it, lol.
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LOL @ you guys, caught up on “Wink” Martindale (I grew up on him as host of “Tic-Tac-Dough”) and I thought that joke was over like 3 years ago… JIM HARBAUGH is going to lose his DC.
Is this a sign that Jim Harbaugh will go to the NFL?
As long as he goes by Wink Martindale, that joke will never be over, lol.
I suppose that’s fair enough, Cav Kong. LOL
I SAID SAFETY BLITZ YOU IDIOT!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/police-officer-delivers-doordash-order-after-the-driver-was-arrested-in-viral-tiktok/ar-AATaCb3?li=BBnb7Kz
LOL
Me? That Mike Macdonald is about to be hired by the Ravens (that’s Jim Harbaugh’s DC at Michigan), I think it’s a sign that Harbaugh is about to return to the NFL.
Mike E, what say you?
I have no idea what Jim Harbaugh will do but losing a coach to the NFL is nothing rare. Happens all the time when there is an opening.
We’ll see what happens…
Brian Daboll went from TEs coach in NE in 2016 to Alabama as OC and QBs coach in 2017 to OC of the Bills in 2018 to present. These coaches move around quite a bit.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/chiefs-fans-donate-178k-to-buffalo-children-s-hospital-in-aftermath-of-playoff-game/ar-AATb5tm?li=BB15ms5q
“Beginning after the overtime thriller, Chiefs fans starting donating to the hospital in $13 increments, in honor of the 13 seconds it took for the Kansas City offense to drive down the field to tie the divisional-round playoff game at the end of regulation.”
This is simply awesome. A way to both honor and stick it to your opponent while having a positive influence in their community. Great stuff
This is a much more constructive way to celebrate your team’s victory than knocking out an opposing fan in the parking lot and peeing on him.
LOL, the ‘Wink’ Martindale thing reminds me of that “Robin Hood: Men in Tights: joke.
“Wait, you changed your name to Latrine?!”
“Yeah, it used to be Brick Sh^thouse.”
It is funny that Don Martindale’s nickname “Wink” that his friends and teammates gave him back in the day was due to the game show host.
Right! Like I said, I thought the joke had already been played out several years ago. Seems Cav Kong and Rockphin are catching on for the very first time! LOL
And it’s all good! I’m not dissin’ Cav Kong or Rockphin if they just now caught on! LOL
I wasn’t aware of it either. I just looked it up. LOL
lol, or we’re just enjoying it again…
Tim, you weren’t aware of it either?!! What the hell have you guys been living under over the last several years?!! 😆
Regarding the HC searches going on right now, Flores’ name has kind of dropped off the radar for some of the teams he was previously linked to.
Not that it necessarily means much. Like was mentioned earlier, each interview becomes the next sure thing regardless of team or candidate, lol.
A current rumor is that Sean Payton will take some time off and wait for the Dallas job to open. That could be as soon as next year.
Payton was being paid $15M per year so he just walked away from $45M.
I’m hearing the same.
M13, no the name sounded familiar but I didn’t know anything about either Wink. LOL
That’s crazy to me, Bro! I’ve always known who the original Wink was (the game show host), and I’ve always known that Don was nicknamed after him. All good!
Like I said it sounded familiar but I always knew the coach as Don and did not really know the game show host guy because I never watched the show. My mind just never stored that info. LOL
I maintain…
My preferred HC: Brian Daboll
Who I believe we hire: Jim Harbaugh
Not a chance on Harbaugh. If he goes anywhere it’s the Raiders
I heard he’s rumored to the Vikings, and Bears rumors is that he was asking for big time money.
He supposedly has a very big connection to Mark Davis
Yeah I’ve heard that too.
We already knew Brian Flores would be our new HC before the Super Bowl. So maybe that will be the case this year.
Love the title. LOL
https://www.sbnation.com/2022/1/19/22891420/mike-mcdaniel-49ers-coach-hipster-offensive-coordinator
Bay area legends say on any given Sunday you can see McDaniel coaching at the stadium, dispensing coffee at a local Starbucks, or in a park strumming his acoustic guitar singing River of Jordan, all at the same time…
LOL
Going to change our name to Miami Avocado Toasts if we hire McDaniel
New logo
Lol at Tim and “my mind never stored that info”. For some reason that struck me as really funny.
LOL
I am sorry, but I will be stealing that and “storing” that for use somewhere down the road. It could come in handy some day. Lol
LOL @ Bookman
This could haunt Brian Flores.
https://sports.yahoo.com/giants-discuss-brian-flores-miami-205653980.html
Hope not
Want Flores going to an NFC team
Don’t want him not hired, because otherwise he’s back in NE
Fair enough. The Schoen relationship with Grier is what could be bad for Flores with the Giants. You know Schoen reached out to Grier.
Now the Daily News is reporting that Daboll is the favorite. Love this time of year for us…
For the Giants? I know a lot of Giants fans want him as their HC. I thought about the fit and the thing that jumps out is Daniel Jones. He has a similar skill set to Josh Allen. Big tall QB who can run and has the arm to make all the throws. Schoen already said Jones is the QB in 2022. Daboll was given a lot of credit for Allen’s development. It all adds up.
The Giants did a worse job then we did on offense with Jones and their offense. Injuries did play a major role in it but adding skills players when you can’t block is ass backwards.
No, for the Dolphins
It’s like bobbing for apples
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