The 2022 NFL Draft hasn’t happened yet, but I figured let’s take a look at the current state of our division. The Bills were aggressive in free agency as were the Miami Dolphins. The New York Jets were somewhat quiet in free agency but they are primed to add talent in the upcoming draft. As of right now, the Jets hold picks #4 and #10 in RD 1, picks #35 and #38 in RD 2, #69 in RD3, two 4th RD picks #111 and #117 and two in RD 5, #146 and #163. So four picks in the top 40, and then an additional 2 picks each in round 4 and 5. The Patriots have a pretty standard draft selection available with one pick each through the first 5 rounds and then one additional 6th rounder for 7 total picks. The Patriots pick in RD 1 #21, #54 in RD 2, #85 in RD 3, #127 in RD 4, #170 in RD 5, and then 2 picks in RD 6 at #200 and #210. The Bills have 8 selections in the 2022 Draft, two in RD 6, and one in each other round, RD 1 #25, RD 2 #57, RD 3 #89, RD 4 #130, RD 5 #168, in RD 6 2 selections at #185 and #203, and in RD 7 #231. The Dolphins as we all know sent two of our top picks RD1 and RD 2 to KC for the services of one Tyreek Hill, WR.
The Bills struck first in free agency with a big move for their defense, acquiring Von Miller formerly of the SB Champion LA Rams. I was a little surprised that Miller left the Rams, but he did go to the AFC super bowl favorite Buffalo Bills. Miller signed a 6YR/$120M deal. The Bills aren’t the unanimous favorite, but they are among the favorites. The Bills added depth at QB behind Josh Allen trading for Case Keenum and signing Matt Barkley, They added a very good slot receiver in Jamison Crowder, a solid OG in Roger Saffold, a pretty good TE although an underachieving one in O.J. Howard. The Bills also brought back former Bill and former Dolphins DT Jordan Phillips. They added Dolphins fave RB Duke Johnson for depth, as well as former Dolphins C Greg Mancz. The Bills are definitely an elite team as currently constituted, we’ll see if their draft can put them over the top.
The Patriots were not big spenders in free agency this year. Last year, uncharacteristically they were very aggressive but have settled back into just filling depth, and not going for the high ticket players. They brought in RB/WR Ty Montgomery from the Saints and re-signed their own RB James White. They did also re-sign OT Trent Brown. They added QB Brian Hoyer as a backup for Mac Jones. They re-signed S Devin McCourty and added FA CB Malcolm Butler from the Cards. There were a few mor low key signings as well, and due to BB being the HC and GM, the Patriots are still ranked as one of the better AFC teams, usually ranked higher than our own Dolphins.
The Jets fortified their O-line by signing OG Laken Tomlinson (who I really wanted!) early in free agency. They signed TE C.J. Ozumah who showed promise last year for the Bengals. They re-signed WR/KR/PR Braxton Berrios (Another player coveted by FU bloggers). Theyt also brought in another TE, former Vikes TE Tyler Conklin. They re-signed all purpose RB Tevin Coleman and brought back flash in the pan QB Mike White as well as long in the tooth QB Joe Flacco. Their big move was Tomlinson but their fireworks will be in the draft.
So right now, the Bills, who already had one of the best teams in the AFC got stronger on defense by adding one of the best pass rushers in the game in Von Miller. The Bills also have 8 picks in this draft. The Jets are definitely going to add lots of high ranked prospects from the draft having 4 picks in the top 40 picks. The Patriots while not having a reputation of drafting especially well, and this year received ZERO compensatory picks, no doubt due to their free agent spending spree of 2021, still have 7 picks and the rest of free agency including post June 1st cuts to improve their team. Our Dolphins are low on picks with just 5, and 2 of those are in RD 7, with the first not coming until RD 3, pick #102. There’s always the possibility of trading up and trading either a player or future assets. I don’t say no to any of those possibilities. The idea is to use assets to acquire players that can help the team now, and in the future. It doesn’t matter to me if we use future assets, we’re ready to compete now, it just accelerates the schedule. If there’s a player we feel will make us better now and in the future, go get him.
We closed the gap on the Bills, but if I’m going to be completely honest, until I see us play a competitive game against them, they are light years ahead of us. We haven’t really belonged on the same playing field with them the last few years, losing every game, including a 35-0 drubbing and an ugly 26-11 defeat last season.In 202, Ryan Fitzpatrick lost a shootout 31-28 and then we all remember the shellacking we took Week 17 with the playoffs on the line for us, 56-26. In 2019 we lost 31-21 and 37-20. You have to go back to November of 2018 where slid past the Bills 21-17, but lost the 2nd meeting Week 17 to start their dominant run, 42-17. We played well against the Patriots and Jets, but those Bills will hinder our playoff chances if we can’t take on from them. Can’t count on sweeping the Pats and Jets every year either. It will be interesting to see how much the Jets improve as they surround their QB with upgrades from the draft. They will almost certainly be selecting a WR and possibly on OL early. They need a pass rusher too and that could also be an early selection. If we want to compete in an ultra competitive AFC with teams like the Bills, Chiefs, Bengals, Titans, Raiders, Broncos and Chargers, and any other upstarts, we’re going to have once again do well in our own division, so at least 4-2 at a minimum.
#stangerstrong
GO DOLPHINS!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Pats will bomb this year.
Let’s hope so
Nice write, Mike. We have to beat the Bills at least once and yes the AFC is going to be very competitive. But with the roster we have now I feel much better about our playoff chances.
Thanks Tim. We should be in the mix, unless we have growing pains with the new staff.
Well done Mike E:
Agreed we did a Lot of fixing in FA , now it’s on the Coaches to COACH up the younguns especially on OL .. and 100% we need to show we belong on the same field as the Bills . Need at least a split with them this year ..
Thanks Toba
“We closed the gap on the Bills, but if I’m going to be completely honest, until I see us play a competitive game against them, they are light years ahead of us.”
And it is not just about talent on the roster, for whatever reason the Bills have just had our number. Even when when the Pats ruled the AFC East we’d give them a beat down now and then. But hey — different coach and O scheme this year…. maybe none of that matters.
And great breakdown of the division.
Thanks Stanger
Dolphins 14-3
Bills 13-4
Patriots 6-11
Jest 1-15
Piggy drinking early on Easter Sunday. 😜
VERY NICE ANALYSIS, Mike E. I really think the one thing that separates the Bills from the Fins right now is their consistency in the Offensive Line. Game after game, month after month, their O-Line gets the job done. On the rare occasions when their O-Line has an off day, one of their star players usually steps up and saves the day for them.
THAT’S WHY MIAMI’S FRONT OFFICE needs to step up big time and get the linemen we need to protect Tua’s blind side. THAT, in my view, would put these two teams on a far more equal and competitive footing.
LASTLY, don’t ever forget, the “O” in BUFFALO stands for Super Bowl wins!
67 seasons and “O” Super Bowl victories, Bills’ FANS!!
Thanks OD, good to see you back. I think Josh Allen’s elevated play is the difference. He kills with his legs as much as he hurts you with his arm. He makes the O-line look better than it really is
MIKE E.; IF TUA had the same amount of time to throw that Josh Allen has, he, too, would make our O-Line look better than it really is. Gotta agree with KEN that Eich, Hunt and Co. have “Already Crashed” and failed to adequately protect Tua’s blind side.
THAT’S WHY we need someone better!!
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UNFORTUNATELY, our front office still thinks the players who have failed in the past can be “coached-up” to the high standards that are needed. They fail to realize that drafting these guys in the first place WAS A MISTAKE!! They’d rather blame the previous regime than accept the fact that they selected the wrong guys. But, HEY, if I’m WRONG and the FO is right, we’ll end up with TWO GUYS who can protect Tua’s blind side instead of the current ZERO!! So the downside in using a very high draft pick from 2023 to move up and get the “RIGHT GUY” in 2022 is not as severe as some of you might think.
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IF the FO really is “ALL IN FOR THIS SEASON,” they’ll make this move and get the “Right Guy” for Tua. That’s especially true THIS YEAR as ESPN projects 4 of the top 8 picks could be O-Linemen. The talent is there if only we can get it!
Who said that the FO is all in for this season other than Tim? I’m really hoping they are not. Many seasons to come.
OD, Tua actually made our OL look better than they were with his pocket presence and instincts. He had a lot of practice at it. LOL
Stanger, I’m not the only one who said we’re all in this season. The guy who wrote this blog article believes that too as do many NFL pundits.
I have to counter the OL negativity. lol
TBH, with Armstead and Willams on the left and Hunt at RG, I am really confident with Deiter in the middle of them as our starting Center. Not to mention, Grier has said other teams have asked about trading for Deiter. So, there are other teams who view Deiter as a good Center they would want to start for them.
We need a backup for Deiter and one that has versatility. I think it will be the guy they brought in on a visit in LT/OC Zach Tom. I don’t see us signing Tretter.
I think they already have a picture of a starting 4 on the OL and it is just going to come down to who can win the starting RT position between Jackson, Eich and Coleman. The other 2 will be our backup OT’s. We also have LT Greg Little and OT Adam Pankey fighting for a roster spot.
Can the vet Greg Little move to RT? Who knows? Everything about OT Kion Smith I read says he is not a good fit for the offense as he is lacking in athletic ability, but again, who knows?
As backup OG’s, we have Kindley and Robert Jones. Could a rejuvenated Kindley win back the RG position and Hunt moves to RT?
With this new offense and blocking scheme, I think Kindley could surprise everyone.
I actually feel optimistic going into TC with who we have on the roster. That could all change after June 1 cuts also. We still have plenty of money.
There are at least 4 teams who don’t have enough money (top 51) to sign their draft class. Teams will be making some Jun 1 cuts.
Good points. New year, new coaches, new scheme and the young OL with more experience.
Exactly, when we had Kindley and Hunt on the right side starting as rookies, they weren’t all bad.
Didn’t we have Jackson, Flowers, Karras, Kindley, Hunt starting on the OL that year?
Look who we have now, Armstead, Williams, Deiter, Hunt, ???
It don’t get all the negativity and the idea our OL is not better or will be no better. On top of that, look at all the teachers (coaches) they brought in. I’m stoked!
Stanger – All in doesn’t just mean for this season, it means a difference in philosophy that you’re in it to win it now. We’re not just playing the season, we’re assembled to be competitive now. Not sure why this is controversial, we picked up one of the best WR’s in the game as well as signing the best LT in free agency. That along with other moves show a shift in the competitive window, an accelerated window.
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We revamped our offense which had to happen. The RB position has been upgraded as well. We’re better on offense for sure.
Upgraded WR room – Check
Upgraded RB room – Check
Upgraded OL room – Check
Isn’t this what everyone was asking for?
Of the 6 other OT’s on the roster not named Armstead, I would think they can find a starter out of the group. Most teams will have only 2-3 roster spots to fill after the draft and UDFA signings. There will still be plenty of unsigned FA’s then couple that with June 1 cuts.
I just ain’t worried about it.
That’s exactly how I see it (and have said the same), but somehow that fashion of all in includes many times trading 2023 picks for a first rounder, etc this year.
It’s controversial because trading picks from 2023 makes us worse in future years, starting with 2023
Nothing about sending 5 draft picks for one player screams we’re shooting for 2023 and beyond. LOL
I think the team realized if we don’t do some big things we’re not a playoff team in a very competitive AFC.
Stanger – ok, I’m not saying we have to trade up this year but I’m also saying I’m not against that. I think if we do something like that it would just reinforce the fact that we want to push this team into the playoffs and more from now on
We’ll do what we do and hopefully will make sense. Just hope the reason isn’t cause the pressure is on to make it happen this year. This team will mostly be together in 2023 and they are just now adjusting to a new O scheme.
No question. I don’t think it would be because of pressure but rather because we’re already built to compete and if an opportunity arose to make us even better there’s no reason we shouldn’t make it.
We don’t want to waste the defense that we’ve assembled because of a weak offense. So we added a bunch of offense to match that in FA. The idea is to win and not just build forever. Sports is all about timing and going for it when you can. We’re in the 4th season of this team being overhauled. If not now when?
We have a 3 yr window, why turn it into a 1 yr window?
Don’t you think the odds are much higher to win the SB this yr compare to once in the next 3 yrs, assuming we trade both 2023 1sts for Lindbaum?
Tim — we are a maybe make the playoffs maybe not team. Lot of that has to do with how strong the AFC is, but what we are. And bottom line is don’t see even a first rounder making all that much a difference, but do see what we’d give up for one hurting us bad in next year’s draft.
So yeah I’d prefer building forever, or at least till next year. As is, we should have a good team to put out there in 2022.
Agreed
“Putin is a gangster, with an army, running a gas station.”
— John McCain
stangerx says:
April 17, 2022 at 5:01 pm
“Putin is a gangster, with an army, running a gas station.”
— John McCain
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Well then, thank God for President Trump, who made our country energy independent while being able to export our gas to other countries that don’t harbor gangsters: Win-win.
All the while, John ‘the traitor’ McCain (along with Lindsey Graham and Amy Klobuchar) was setting us up for war with Russia (defend Ukraine regarding Biden/Obama/Soros, American-funded genetic labs in Ukraine, KKK, and the neo-Nazis), defiant of President Trump back in ’16: I DARE you to deny it, being I’ve proof of it on video.
Stanger, you have a really warped sense of humor.
You said to me to not worry about your health regarding political discussion, but I think your quote of John McCain is a bloody joke… I’m not amused. McCain was a blood-thirsty, war-mongering profiteer… being he was part of the military-industrial complex.
Please do better in the future, my friend… you just truly upset me. WAR is not the answer for America, unless we’re invaded.
Never in the remotest region of my mind thought that quote of McCain bashing Putin would get you so riled up. Read it and liked the belittling of Putin. Nothing more and nothing else.
Steve – your logic befuddled me. How on earth would trading up for a rookie player to draft make it a one year thing? You’re going to have that player for 4 years minimum and if he plays well, more. What about that says one year?
The trade makes us worse in the future
You’re talking about trading future picks for a guy playing a non key position, why would we do that? It makes us worse next year, because we won’t have those picks to fill needs
Let’s use our 2021 first 2 picks as an example, would you rather have Waddle and Phillips or Lindbaum?
So what if we did trade up for Linderbaum and he played great from day one and played here for 10 years. What’s the big deal about having multiple picks next year, it’s not about picks it’s about getting players that help you win. I love having lots of draft capital, but now it’s time to just keep adding to our team. Get a player now and you’re a year ahead. You don’t have wait until next year. Again, not saying we have to trade up but I won’t lose my shit like you will if we do
I never said this year and that’s it. All I said is why not try to be a top team this year. The way this team is currently set up I see a 2 year window before we’ll have to revise it a bit in 2024. That doesn’t mean we go back to blow it up mode. It will just be different.
I’m just tired of this team always acting like it’s 2-3 years away. I’m happy that mindset changed and that Grier help set us up to be in this position. I think he deserves a lot of credit for that.
Who is this 1st rder you’re trading for that’s worth 2 2023 1sts or if he’s a 2nd rder, which 2nd rder is worth a 2023 1st??
I never said trade both 2023 1st round picks in any of my trade scenarios. I pointed out in my trades that we would still have a 1, 2 and 3 next year. I don’t know who that prospect is either. But if we have a high grade on a guy and he falls to a sweet spot I have no problem using some 2023 draft capital if he makes us better.
In most drafts some players fall for some reason or another. Lots of times it’s just a numbers game where other positions were drafted and a guy is still sitting there. If that doesn’t happen and we don’t make that kind of trade, that’s okay too. I’m just open to it.
If we keep picks in rounds 1-3 next year means at most we give up a 2023 one and a 3. That’s like a 2 and a 4 this year, which might mean bottom of the first if you add in our 2022 3rd. Could see it happen, but hope it is for one special player.
Wow…Mike E., thank you! Good to see you cautiously optimistic….me too.
Steve – you could flip the argument 2 ways. Would you rather have Tyreek Hill or Austin Jackson and Noah Igbinoghene?
We see it the same way. I also don’t think this is Tua’s last year to prove something or we need those 2023 1st round picks to get a new QB. It’s not like he’s been with us for 7 years like Tannehill and it’s time to move on. The guy is entering his 3rd season.
But we also made Tyreek the highest paid WR in NFL history. The draft picks were just for the ability to do that.
Terrible, terrible, terrible, BBM. See my edits below, LOL:
bailbondmike says:
April 17, 2022 at 4:37 pm
Upgraded WR room – Check: NO filled a few holes. Got, rid of Parker….lol…added a playmaker next to Waddle….that was two holes filled in our WR unit…added another Wilson, too, didn’t we? Maybe, a 3rd hole. A rebuild we needed.
Upgraded RB room – Check: We shall see, but dependent on below.
Upgraded OL room – Check: Replaced 40%, 20% intact (RG), 20% speculation-C, and 20% (RT) will rely on coaching to pull it off….lol. More like a rebuild, imo, lol.
Isn’t this what everyone was asking for?
Of the 6 other OT’s on the roster not named Armstead, I would think they can find a starter out of the group. Most teams will have only 2-3 roster spots to fill after the draft and UDFA signings. There will still be plenty of unsigned FA’s then couple that with June 1 cuts.
I just ain’t worried about it.
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I’m not either.
And for years we have signed some not so bad centers on the cheap. Would love Tretter, but must be at least a solid back-up out there.
Adding to the OL discussion, after seeing the interviews with Armstead since he signed with us, that guy has leadership qualities. We all know he’s had durability issues during his career. But when he plays he’s one of the best at his position. In past years the leader of the OL group was Jesse Davis who was never the best at anything. Not to knock him, but he was a veteran swing OL. Armstead brings a presence to the OL room we haven’t had in years. Who would be the last guy we had that fits that role? Smiley, Grove, Long or Pouncey?
Stanger, of course any prospect we’d trade back into this year’s draft for has to be a projected special player. No other reason to do it. I’m not doing it for a guy who could become a good player in time. The team would have to be really high on him.
There are 6 teams with multiple 2nd round picks this year. If a prospect we covet falls into the 2nd round – we could trade our 3rd and 5th this year, and one of our 1st round picks next year. Many of you say next years picks are of lesser value anyway. If we’re a good team this year and we should be, our 1st will likely be around #20 at the worst. The other pick from the 49ers will probably be similar. They lost a few coaches and players, and their QB situation is unsettled. But they could still be a good team.
So we’re not giving up top end draft capital next year to get better this year and in the future. It’s about good players, not the # of the draft pick. If we could land a guy who plays like Holland did as a rookie, I’m doing it.
This is a great plan,
but what position can be upgraded with a rookie who is so much better than who we have that he makes a difference in the W/L record?
Don’t know yet. 😉
I want this off-season to be the first off-season I’m recklessly optimistic
Screw you guys with your caution
I’m gonna plan the season like it’s the last one ever
We are going to kill everyone, I’m sure of it
Super Bowl here we come!
If the Bengals could make the SB last year I think we can this year. That team was not all about Burrow. He’s very good but that team played inspired in big games. We’re not about a few players. We have a very good roster. Tua will be better because the skill around him is better. Much faster. It makes a difference.
If it was any other team, we’d be saying wow they could be really good this year with what they have. But we Dolfans harp on what our want/upgrade areas are. No team is good enough everywhere.
Fins Up!!!!
I’m with The Pig.
We were 9-8 last year.
The improvements we have made should bring 3 more wins (Atl, Jax, 2nd Buff) and not having to resort to Brissett should bring two more (Indy, LV).
That is 14-3.
Why not?
Last year Gesicki was high in receiving yardage 4 games … all losses.
You don’t think Hill fixes at least 3 of those?
We have the skill to create big time mismatches. I don’t know how teams are going to cover our skill unless we’re hit with injuries. Tua, just get the ball in their hands. 🙂
For me we need to go 11-6 to make the playoffs. We might have to win a game to jump a team that ends up 10-7. If we win 12 or more we’ll be in the playoffs. There’s a lot of good teams in the AFC but someone has to lose games. Even if some of them are really close.
Shouldn’t this current team maybe win a game before we decide what they are or aren’t?
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This “all in” crap is just fans wanting to feel good about the team….just like every other Spring….and NOW people give a crap what the media says about us? Lol
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Hill wasn’t even a part of the FA plan because he wasn’t even available until after it started, was he? So, were we “all in” prior to signing Hill? Without his signing, I don’t see much of an “all in” philosophy taking shape. Can’t we just feel good about the team without making wild predictions or statements that mean absolutely nothing? Talk is cheap. Go make the playoffs and get back to me.
Randy, isn’t this what fans do, look at the roster and project? How else do you do it?
Hill is part of the team and we were already adding good players before that. If we’re not trying to compete this year why re-sign Ogbah, franchise Gesicki and sign the outside FAs we did, and then trade for Hill? That is not a team hoping to win down the road.
We only have so many years with X and Byron at corner etc. I’m not sure why some of you don’t see what we did to be in the mix in a big way this year. How is it not obvious?
Im,
Yes, but then those fans try to shout down others who don’t agree with what they’re saying. Being optimistic is fine but don’t act like your optimism is fact. It’s just hope because this team hasn’t proven a thing.
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I don’t agree with the “only having so many years” thought process. I want these guys to build a program that creates consistent opportunities every year. I don’t want a one and done team. I want a team that makes the playoffs for the next decade. It’s not about one or two players. It’s about building a consistent program. You don’t do that by making moves for the now.
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As for Hill, I think they saw an opportunity to add a dynamic playmaker, had the capital to do it and took it. That’s it. It’s not a referendum on the plan or thoughts of the FO. That’s the fans’ read on it because they want it to be so. It feels good…and that’s okay. Every team should be trying to win every year. It doesn’t hurt that a team that is under suspicion of tanking now looks as if they’re going “all in”. Convenient, eh? Lol
Who’s shouting down others? Many of my opinions have been shouted down. No worries!
Rosters only stay the same for a couple of years at best. FA, age, injuries or other unforeseen circumstances always play a part in it. Go for it when you can.
Tua at the QB position knows all eyes are on him. So what? He’s had his own issues during his 2 year career but has shown good flashes and has never been surrounded by the talent we have now in his 3rd year. Does talent matter or not?
We have a HC that is all in with Tua and they are building around his skill set. McDaniel has said he believes Tua has untapped potential. It might not be just about Tua. Maybe he believes other players have that too. 😉
Randy – getting Hill got the ball going. Does it matter whether it was planned or not? They made the move. After they got Hill they went out and got Armstead. Sometimes things like Hill becoming available change your philosophy. They saw an opportunity to get better that otherwise wasn’t there and took it. I don’t see any way to think they’re not all in. That being said, it doesn’t mean that it will equate to success, but they are more in now than any time in the last 10-15 years.
^ How is it not obvious? We want to be one of those teams in the mix at the end. Why not?
I’m already tired of this topic. Lol
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I hope we go 17-0 and win the big one! I’m just not betting my bucket on it. 🙂
You’re tired of the topic of being a good team? So you enjoy the 2-3 years away much more? No worries, you have a lot company for 2023 and after. LOL
I’m not telling you we’re going to win it all, I’m telling you we’re finally trying. We’re not looking to the future and hoping we’ll be competitive soon, in a few years. We built a team that can be competitive now. Look at all the moves that happened in the AFC. Broncos got Russell Wilson, Raiders got Davante Adams, Bills got Von Miller. Would you say those teams are all in? All those teams gave up multiple picks except for the Bills, who gave Miller a huge contract. I think we’re just as much “in” as any of those teams
The Bills traded for Stefon Diggs a few years ago for 4 draft picks including a 1st round pick and it changed their entire team. It’s about talent!!!!
Tim,
Who says we’re a good team? You? Fans? The media? Last I looked we haven’t won a game yet. Everything is about the hype these days…and that’s really all this crap is. Reality and fact mean little. Say something enough and it becomes reality for people these days. All I’m saying is I’m gonna wait and actually see what this team does when it matters….not in the off season. Call me dumb…but that’s all that matters to me.
We improved the talent, and that should translate to better play. Talent is what wins games. Hopefully implementing a new system doesn’t hurt us. It didn’t hurt the Rams when McVay was a rookie HC
I don’t know what to say anymore. We won 10 and 9 games the last 2 seasons with a lesser roster. Fins Up!!!!
If you don’t think pro leagues indirectly fix games watch this
I don’t want to watch it because I feel like it’s all possibly fixed already. I can’t bear to have that reinforced
MN Wild win it in OT!! Time to go wash some dishes. Go Fins!
LMAO, Randy comes on for two minutes to stir some shit and then leaves to wash dishes and watch Sanford and Son and then go sleepy.
Randy knits sweaters and tells people who are freezing this won’t be ready until summer. LOL
Lol. Well, it is about 32 degrees and snowing/raining here right now. That may be affecting my damn mood. But no sweaters. I’m going topless!!
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And at my age, sleepy time usually comes between 1-4 AM…with a trip to the John in there somewhere….but it doesn’t matter because you were kind of awake anyway. Getting old blows.
LOL, all good man. We all want the same thing with the Dolphins. 🙂
I am with Randy on his views. This all in crap is fan generated. I will not be fooled by this team again after 1-7 last year. I am glad they are investing now, but to use future picks for this years team would border on irresponsible IMO. Can they play a season with this staff and players first?
The only thing fan generated is 2023 draft picks being used to make the 2022 team better. All the other stuff actually happened.
The “all in” narrative is fan/ media generated, where was it stated by the organization? This has been asked multiple times. Don’t tell me about what you assume by the actions/transactions. Tell me where anyone from the Dolphins organization has stated they are “all in” this year.
Nice job Mike.
I’m with Randy and Bookman. Keep the damn 2023 picks and use them to upgrade the talent.
As for the OL, as I pointed out yesterday we have 6 youngsters to get 1 starter out of. Not worried at all.
Going “all in” comes from a poker gambit in which you bet all of your chips on one hand.
I know you all know this.
Except in movies, it normally does not mean that the player has no money in the bank in the real world outside of the poker match.
But it does mean that the player is risking the ability to continue to play that night on that one hand, because if the player loses that bet, they have no chips with which to continue.
It doesn’t mean they can’t go home and get some more cash or go back to the “bank” at the casino and get more chips, so as to play again in the next game they can get into.
But it does indicate a strong belief in the hand that player has been dealt.
Of course that player could be bluffing.
Either way it has a strong psychological effect on the other players.
So the metaphor breaks down when used in pro football, because no matter what one team does to go “all in,” that team “still must play the games” because the other teams aren’t going to fold like players in poker can.
So the pyschological effect is lost or severely limited when applying the term to football.
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But the term is used to refer to when a franchise trades all of its draft choices and cap money to acquire current players.
Some other strategies are “building for the future” and a “total rebuild.”
I think it could be said that the Dolphins were in “building for the future” mode, after the “total rebuild” of Flo’s first year, until Tyreek became available. At the moment of trading massive amounts of draft choices and a huge cap number for Hill, it could be said that the Dolphins went “all in.”
That is, the team pushed all its chips in on this one hand (season).
You could say that we could tell “all in” had become the team’s strategy when they traded away yet another current draft choice in the Parker trade to free up money to sign more FA this year.
Going “all in” is very scary in poker, and it is very scary in football to trade away all of your draft choices for a certain year. I feel scared that we did that, especially when I do a mock draft now and realize i can’t get any of the good players from this year’s draft.
I bet that Grier is scared about what he did. I bet McDaniel is scared that he has put himself in the position of betting so much on his very first team.
And I bet it’s scary to Tua to hear that the team has bet so much on him playing well in 2022.
The good thing is, just like that poker player, we can go get more money from home and play again.
Just not in that match or this season.
In football we can always draft more players the next year. In our case, we even have extra draft picks next year, so it seems brilliant of Grier to go “all in” this year, as he can recover next year.
That is why committing next year’s draft picks is soooooo scary to some of us.
That’s using the savings account. That’s taking out a 2nd on your house to bet on a poker hand.
That’s scary as hell and could ruin your credit rating and lose you a wife.
But Tim’s point is we should not waste going “all in” this year by being timid.
Tim’s not bluffing.
He wants to order some more chips or run to the ATM right now and max out his MasterCard so as to make sure that going “all in” is not wasted by missing one face card he could get by borrowing against next year.
Tim’s smart because of those extra picks we have next year, so that borrowing one of those will not leave us handicapped in 2023. We’ll still have the normal amount of picks.
Plus if we go “all in” and bet some off our ATM, like Tim says to do, we could win the jackpot.
And that would be FUN.
Tim’s saying that he’s confident the hand we could then play would win big, and we haven’t won big in a long time, and Tim’s tired of that and wants to win now and is willing to do risky things to win big now.
I think maybe Grier (and Ross) are thinking like Tim. Their fan base is starved for Winning Big.
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I’d rather win the Super Bowl this year no matter what happens next year.
But Tim and Grier are smart, they know it’s not poker, where you throw away your cards after each hand, even if they are good cards. Grier has built the core of a very good team with lots of young stars.
So going “all in” now will not be as painful as it would be in poker.
So why not go all in, and let’s have some fun Winning Big.
That was one lengthy analysis of “all in.” 🙂 I’m sorta going with what Randy said last night — who even claimed we were? Haven’t heard McDaniel, Grier or Ross say it.
OK – So it seems as if a bunch of you are really bothered by the terminology and that this is fan based hype and media hype. Of course it is. Yes, this is my opinion, I’m a fan, and I said it. I didn’t get it from any media outlet and I sure don’t have any connection to the team. It’s my opinion, and I can see that the term “All in” is driving some of you crazy. Does “heavily invested” work better for you? We spent an awful lot of money, and surrendered 5 draft picks this offseason. Does it seem as if we’re doing the same old same old? It doesn’t appear that way to me. We’ve signed some free agent WR’s like Mike Wallace and we traded for Brandon Marshall, but we never traded 5 draft picks and then paid out a record setting contract for a WR? Does that not indicate a change in what we’ve been doing for the last 15 years? I call it all in because it looks to me like we’re going for it. The last couple of years, teams made similar investments and then continued to add talent like the Bucs and the Rams. I think if we have a good start we may just do the same, keep adding to the talent we have to make us better, take a chance to make the team better.
Rebuild is over. Team expects to compete for the championship year after year. They are bringing in the players to do that. End of story. We as fans should also expect them to compete.
I’m not going to get into the semantics of the team being all-in, but I just saw it as the team finally doing what needed to be done for these team to get over the hump and be a perennial playoff team. We’ve been on the cusp of making the playoffs for the last 20 years and failing in the last couple of weeks. We even got in a few times, but we were one and done and never back to back. For the first time in several decades the team did what it was supposed to do.
(1) Retain most of the key talent
(2) Upgrade where we were weak
In previous regimes, we would let talent go and not replace them or bring in talent that wasn’t an upgrade or they had some mental issues. Added to that, the contracts would prevent us from building an actual team and the coaching staffs weren’t good.
On paper, we are in a good place. We haven’t been good on paper in years and I’ve had no problem saying that every year I’ve been here. There are definitely still questions marks and nothing is guaranteed. However, we have less question marks than we’ve had in a long time.
We’ve won 19 games in two years with basically half a team and retained most of the coaching staff that’s given credit for it, not to mention the players involved. We look to have improved the offensive side of the ball, so there’s hope for our team to do what it hasn’t in a long time. This team still has to get on the field and prove it, but it’s the offseason and we don’t have the opportunity right now. All we have is the paper team and it’s a paper team that’s looked worthy of praise for the first time in decades.
Well said. What I particularly like is all that talent from all those extra picks from the rebuild under contract. That’s a base that keeps chugging at less than market cap value. They’ll be coming up in years to come though. Wilkins is the first of them.
The Fins are not going all in, they just made a decision, that Hill is more valuable than those 5 picks, the money doesn’t concern me with the cap going way up
We had money to spend in FA and we did, like 2020 we just used it better and had future cap to use too
What did concern me was paying a big contract to someone that is just a little better than avg at a key position, Tannehill
The term all in doesn’t concern me, but being irresponsible with future picks does
Retaining our own is something we haven’t done before, at least on this scale, it’s how you build the right way, keeps continuity, keeps morale up
Changing out 20 guys a year takes time to gel, but if your key players remain it could work, as long as those key players are really good ours haven’t been
Spending big can be good, if you get the right players at the right positions
Josh Allen was really good against us his first 2 years, but mediocre against the league, then before yr 3 he got Diggs and he took off
Not saying that will happen for Tua, but it can’t hurt
Herbert had great WRs day 1, Burrow got 1 last year
When we got Wallace he was pretty good, but his lack of great hands seemed to hurt, Hill isn’t the 1 trick pony Wallace was and has great hands
Watching Mostert he seems to have some of the same qualities Deebo has and even faster, they are both great with the ball in their hands
Wonder if Deebo getting the extended do everything role happened after Mostert got hurt?
Were the Dolphins “all in” when they made Suh the highest paid player in NFL history? Were they all in when they made Jones the highest paid CB in history or when they made X the highest paid CB in history the following season?
no
no
no
Those are some big names. (with big egos wanting big pay)
true I’d stay far away from most of them.
Only #6 and 8 appeal to me as being a talent addon but not a locker room problem.
“Dolphins Wire” on USA today put out a list of players picked at our draft position over the past 10 drafts. It reinforces my desire to find something else to do on Friday and Saturday other than watch this years draft.
#102
2021: CB Ambry Thomas – San Francisco 49ers
2020: LB Alex Highsmith – Pittsburgh Steelers
2019 – RB Alexander Mattison – Minnesota Vikings
2018: DE Jalyn Holmes – Minnesota Vikings
2017: DL Nazair Jones – Seattle Seahawks
2016: LB Joshua Perry – San Diego/Los Angeles Chargers
2015: OT Daryl Williams – Carolina Panthers
2014: CB Bashaud Breeland – Washington
2013: WR Josh Boyce – New England Patriots
2012: QB Kirk Cousins – Washington\
#125
2021: S Camryn Bynum – Minnesota Vikings
2020: QB James Morgan – New York Jets
2019: DT Renell Wren – Cincinnati Bengals
2018: CB Avonte Maddox – Philadelphia Eagles
2017: LB Samson Ebukam – Los Angeles Rams
2016: LB Antonio Morrison – Indianapolis Colts
2015: RB Javorius “Buck” Allen – Baltimore Ravens
2014: CB Walt Aikens – Miami Dolphins
2013: RB Johnathan Franklin – Green Bay Packer
2012: LB Ronnell Lewis – Detroit Lions
#224
2021: S Jacoby Stevens – Philadelphia Eagles
2020: QB Cole McDonald – Tennessee Titans
2019: TE Isaac Nauta – Detroit Lions
2018: WR Javon Wims – Chicago Bears
2017: K Zane Gonzalez – Cleveland Browns
2016: OL Donavon Clark – San Diego Chargers
2015: LB Bryce Hager – St. Louis Rams
2014: DT Beau Allen – Philadelphia Eagles
2013: WR Kevin Dorsey – Green Bay Packers
2012: CB Alfonzo Dennard – New England Patriots
I’d pkg all 3 of those picks to trade up in round 3 as far as possible to get just one more player, like a backup center or developmental DE or CB to take over in a few years.
We brought this guy in for a workout.
This is the exact type back we don’t have and thus one we need.
Big AND fast.
“Tyrion Davis-Price measured in at 6-foot-1 and 223 pounds. He recorded a 4.48-second 40-yard dash.” Out of LSU with a 4.6 ypc. & 15 TDs.
Now if his psychology and work ethic match the type of person we want, then he’d be a great pick.
I want James Cook or Allegier, but this guy wouldn’t be bad.
We worked out this guy also. I’d def use a late round pick on him.
“Baylor wide receiver Tyquan Thornton. Thornton is most known for his 4.28-second 40-yard dash time at this year’s NFL Scouting Combine, as it was the fastest time of any offensive player.
In his four seasons at Baylor, Thornton recorded 143 receptions for 2,242 yards and 19 touchdowns. During his senior season, he was named second-team All-Big-12 for putting up 948 yards and 10 touchdowns on 62 receptions.”
Yeah, I think BBM posted about him a while back. I think I’d honestly rather have Velus Jones, Jr. who I think you posted about. Although I don’t think we’ve brought him in for a visit.
Velus Jones is my first choice to draft at WR, but he will need to be picked much earlier than Thornton (I think).
I bet Velus Jones is the type player who has a better pro career than college.
He could progress like Ced Wilson has recently or even like Tyreek himself has.
He’s well built and hard to arm-tackle.
He was lost in the mess at Southern Cal, then transferred to Tennessee.
He’s old though, but we would not care about that. Might be better than a 20 yr old.
Can he play RT or OC?
lol Ken, I read your concern. You are just fucked. That’s all.
Anyone we pick now at the end of the 3rd. (would be a 4th if not for comp picks) or the 4th will not beat out the physically talented YOUNG players we have competing for the RT position. Nor will the beat out Dieter at Center.
Now a Back up Center I can see and do think we need to add.
You can find a starter at OC round 3 or later but not likely for a RT
I am usually against taking a punter above round 6, but I figure this guy would change more games in our favor than any other guy we pick in the 4ths.
R3 P38 LB Damone Clark – LSU
R4 P20 P Matt Araiza – SDSU
R7 P3 RB Tyler Baddie – Missouri
R7 P26 FB Connor Heyward – Michigan State
The book on Araiza is he’s great, when backed up in his own end and not so good punting inside the 20
I’d love to get Damone Clark.
He hits like a truck, which is what we need to help keep Baker fresh
and stuff the inside runs.
But haven’t we covered the P and FB positions already in FA?
Naples, I would say no. We hired a one year long in the tooth punter and the FB pick w2as #26 in the 7th round. What other position would you prefer to pick with our final pick of the draft? At least FB has a CHANCE to make the team (even though we picked up a good one in Alec Ingold.)
With Mostert only signed on for 1 yr expect an RB in rd 7, where the Shanahan tree excels with them
P I can’t see us drafting one
I’d take a flyer on a WR or ILB to develop in rd 7
The Bills added some pieces, but this was a bad signing IMO, it goes against my theory of paying big money for marginal players
The Bills struck first in free agency with a big move for their defense, acquiring Von Miller formerly of the SB Champion LA Rams. I was a little surprised that Miller left the Rams, but he did go to the AFC super bowl favorite Buffalo Bills. Miller signed a 6YR/$120M deal.
I agree.
I think Von Miller was running on fumes in the playoffs.
I don’t think he has the fire to go toe to toe for a 17 game season anymore.
He might have one more good year left.
That’s one of those signings the FO regrets after a while because you will never get your money’s worth.
(I hope.)
I’m glad they did. Ima not ascairt of Von Miller. He isn’t 12 sack per year guy anymore.
agree ^^^^^^ with Rock
Rock
well you are certainly correct about Morstead being old,
but P is a position that can play in the late 30s,
plus he is a really great locker room guy and rep for the brand.
A team just can’t afford roster spots for 2 punters,
so I think the FO thinks they are done with P,
for the 2022 season anyway.
Agree, Morstead just turned 36 in March, still a pup for P and he’s a damn good punter
Same with FB as far as room on the roster. Ingold is a quality FB.
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I think for us this year, 7th round is a chance to get a leftover RB
who might be stashable on the PS in case Mostert goes down.
or a KR type #6 WR
or a good athlete at CB or Safety who can tackle as a gunner,
even if they aren’t trustable to play defense much.
Do you guys think Damone Clark will actually last to the 3rd round?
prob not, just sayin’ if he does, we should run to the podium and grab him.
No, but I don’t see it as a guarantee either, could see him falling to us
Demone Clark will have back surgery and probably will not play in 2022
but what about Damone Clark? 😉
Now that we know he’s out would you still take him after a redshirt year?
No, especially with a spine injury.
Mike E,
I agree and won’t use going all in but really like what Grier has done this year. I don’t like everything Grier has done but he’s following the blueprint of the champion Rams which seems very smart. The Rams have looked for impact players at the expense of draft talent since McVay arrived and it’s instantly changed their fortunes. We can all say they’ll pay the piper eventually (I have) but who cares? Old ass Ross doesn’t. Grier doesn’t and McD sure doesn’t. Neither does anyone at the Rams.
The old adage that you have to manage money, contracts, the draft, etc isn’t true anymore. It’s all about getting the best 53 today and hoping they stay healthy. The Rams drafting good talent helped them, but it wasn’t their primary care. Grier getting Hill and drafting Waddle is our move to compete with the top teams and really our only smart option. We won’t beat the Bills, Chies, etc with good players or our defense. We’ll beat them with Waggle, Hill, and Mostert/Edmonds and a better run game. A faster, better offense will win those games. Elite offensive talent wins games, not defense.
Elite offensive talent wins games, not defense.
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I agree. In the past a great defense could win you a SB. Now you need a great offense and a good defense or a really good balance of both.
Regarding drafting a FB, I really don’t see it. We signed Ingold and, before that, we also signed FB John Lovett from GB who is 100% now after his ACL injury. Not sure if Lovett makes it but he cracked the active roster for GB for 8 straight games before getting injured. He is versatile and lined up at FB, HB and TE with GB. In college, he played QB, RB, FB and WR at Princeton.
uh oh on Damone Clark. Tough break for the kid.
Now he should drop to the 6th or 7th.
I’d take him there
and hope he recovers after a year, because we have about 6 LB on one year contracts.
Surely he is better than the worst of those.
He was at one time thought to be a first round ish talent.
Let him heal and learn the playbook.
If he gets medical clearance for 2023, great, we have a steal.
If not, welp, so what.
^
As far as drafting a punter, I don’t see it either. Not with just 4 picks this year. Morestead had his best season of his career last year.
Randy and Stanger
Going all in is never something any poker player ever declares out loud.
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No GM is going to say, “We are going all in on this season. It’s Super Bowl or Bust.”
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Having a “poker face” is a known attribute of successful poker players (and NFL GMs).
But when all your chips (or high draft picks) have been pushed into the pot (or traded away),
then you are “All in” whether you shoot your mouth off and tip your hand or not.
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Giving other teams “Bulletin Board ammo” would be stupid.
and
Can you imagine how many click bait pundits would roast Grier over making such a claim?
I thought in Texas Hold’em when you go all in you push all your chips into the pot and no one knows if you are “all in” before that.
You do have to announce you’re all in.
“Eric Rowe played 25 percent of defensive snaps over the team’s final two games after playing 50 percent or more in eight of the previous fifteen contests.”
Not a lot of play for $5 million. Bottom of the 3rd or 4th wouldn’t be a bad spot to get a replacement. Would be someone who could hit the field.
I was going to do a post the other day when discussing trading up or not. I was going to list players I would trade up into the second round for.
Safety Louis Cine, UGA was one of them. He’s 6’1 200 and ran a 4.37. He can play both safety spots. Good in coverage and plays downhill like a LB when in the box. If you watched UGA in the college playoffs, then you heard his name a good bit.
Lewis Cine
“A federal judge in Florida has voided the national mask mandate covering airplanes and other public transportation as exceeding the authority of U.S. health officials in the coronavirus pandemic.”
The ruling was by a U.S. District Judge, which means it can be appealed. But for now at least sounds like it is gone.
Stanger and SB
I stand corrected.
I don’t play Texas hold ’em,
never have and never will,
and so I should not have used poker as a comparison,
since how it’s played these days has changed since I was into it.
We played 5-card draw, as seen on the train in the movie “The Sting,”
and no one ever shared cards,
or plans.
Apparently, that community card thing has become the most popular game today.
It seems childish and dumbed down to me.
but people apparently love it, so I’m done with poker.
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I hereby withdraw all of my poker analogies on the subject of “all in” above.
Go Dolphins.
No Teas Hold’em when I played either. 5 and 7 card stud and draw poker were the games. Have seen the new craze on TV though. Like the old ones better, especially when talking no limit. Limits make it more a thinking man’s game.
yeah 5 and 7 card stud were cool, too. We used to play dealer’s choice between those and draw, so we would have some variety. Some guy would inevitably call Dr Pepper, meaning 10s 2s and 4s wild!
Man, between Streveler and Lovett, why do we even need Bridgewater?
LOL, Right. FB Lovett looks like a better passer than QB Streveler.
These guys are all over the place on who’s the highest paid
I guess whatever fits their agenda
I know it’s not music Friday but just got tickets to see Drivin N Cryin in May at the Pensacola Vinyl Music Hall.
Nice! I remember their song “I’m Going Straight to Hell” often closing down the bars for the night back in my Tallahassee days. I think I remember hearing it as the last song played when the Phyrst bar closed there for good.
This was like grunge before grunge was
Armstead is a mismatch
Holy shit
that play where they pull Armstead out into space, and he just obliterates the contain on that side works nearly every time for 6-20 yards.
Somebody send this tape to McDaniel.
You need to score points to go far in this league, but defense is the difference in going further.
You know it’s the doldrums and Miami has done well when the we’ve gone from arguing about punters to arguing about the meaning of “all in.” 🤣🤣🤣
We could all be over shaking Tim’s NT tree! 😉
Glad we have quality NTs. 🙂
Let’s call it kind of in and all we want to do is make the playoffs.
🤣🤣
Naples!
Your dog got out! 😉
OOPs
Some people do call them “Riverdogs” like the nickname of the Charleston minor league baseball team.
… …
My neighbor down the street had to call animal control just last Thursday because there was one like that on her porch “guarding” her front door, and some Amazon driver called to say he could not deliver under the circumstances.
They lassoed and relocated the gator. I wish they’d shoot them when they get into neighborhoods. There are plenty in the Everglades. We don’t need them in our community ponds.
Speaking of dogs, gators eat dogs every chance they get.
Some other people call otters riverdogs, and some others call hunting dogs riverdogs.
I just see the “blow it up, rebuild plan” is in its 4th phase and should be coming to fruittion, as most on here envisioned or spoke about. Remember “stock to the plan”.
Well aren’t we?
Seems it started with Ross directing Grier to start over and build him a fucking football team.
Phase 1: Hire new HC (to change culture, build team); assessed inheritance, traded for multiple picks, kept what was salvageable, basically, start from scratch, acquire resources/materials through draft, add some FAs, NO tanking allowed….basically field a team….lol. (Phase 1 = REBUILD, i.e. start over)
Phase 2: Talent acquisition through draft, including potential franchise QB, build defense, use draft picks to start youth movement and laying foundation for long-term stability/success on the football field…(Phase 2 = LAYING FOUNDATION)
Phase 3: Continued talent acquisition/materials, build defense, throw out old materials on O, start with new young talent, but with poor architects/engineers, probably need change orders or WTF moments trying to get various permits (any kinda fucking lucid plan in our offense or defense for half the year, so throw O to sink or swim with poor coaching, (how the fuck do you end the season 7-1 and not make the playoffs?), fire coach, but now you have better talent, FIRED perceived biggest culprits. (Phase 3 = CONSTRUCTION).
Phase 4: Replace (issue change order) and
hire from HC to ball boy on O, retain D mostly built with fair success (can’t play half a season, geez loueez), add quality proven materials to fill multiple holes from poorly “consructed” areas. Lay ground for future renovations. Phase 4 = FINISH OUT, i.e. all in).
Edits…lol
^stick to the plan
^”constructed”
Let’s see what we got in Phase 4!!!
Wow you agree it’s Phase 4. LOL
Wait, your phases only went to 3, I never remember you saying there would be a phase 4 Lol
Lol…I think the plan is exactly what everyone thought it should be…there were always 4 phases!
Blow it up, lay a foundation, construct on the foundation, and finish out….KISS….lol
2021 was supposed to be playoffs in phase 3. This is phase 4 now. If it doesn’t happen now I give up. LOL
Oh boy….😂. as long as we don’t trade next years draft picks when we need them for gearing up for Phase 5
I agree TK!!!
I think Phase 3 and 4 might have been merged, but I think I see the wisdom in the separate phases.
I never thought playoffs in 3 years. 4 from demolition to playoff worthy, imo. Let’s see phase 4 to fruition, please.
To me this is Phase 4 and time to be a contender. The End.
Bookman, I never said trade the entire 2023 draft this year. But if we want to use some of it we can.
I didn’t mean the whole draft, it was supposed to be a joke about trading ANY of next years picks.
Oh, and this is phase 1 for McDaniel. 😉
His Phase I not the team. He knows that too. He knows he came here to win sooner than later. It was mostly set up for him.
No soup for you Tim
Keep your hands off of my 2023 picks
PTI, tailgating for VGK game, carry on🤣
Go Knights Go!
I just want to see if we can translate paper to field this year. Yes or same old shit…
We don’t need anymore paper…lol
I’m with Tim, if we can’t win this year I give up
stangerx says:
April 18, 2022 at 12:41 pm
Never in the remotest region of my mind thought that quote of McCain bashing Putin would get you so riled up. Read it and liked the belittling of Putin. Nothing more and nothing else.
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You truly confound me, my friend. McCain is the very last person who should ever have spoken about Putin, except for maybe the Clinton’s, Obama’s, or Biden’s… all of whom he was in bed with.
Again — I liked the quote. Would have put up if Sen Hawley or Sen Feinstein said it. You are the only one hung up on McCain. I couldn’t care less, which makes any conversation on it quite one-sided by definition.
I think we should win and I think we can win….will we? Who the fuck knows, lol?
That’s why we play the games! Any given Sunday, as they say. We’ll see what happens, and I hope it’s GRAND!
If we don’t make the playoffs this year I think it would be a total disappointment. Not the end all of everything but 2023 would need to be special to make up for it. That’s where we are.
Good thing we have all those picks in 2023 then…see, you’re getting it..lol
Pilgrim, we’ve been through harder times as a team, you and me. Don’t be gettin’ yella (yellow) on me now! 😉
After 1-7 last year, I am still pissed and have no trust in this team anymore, my expectations will be tempered because of that, therefore I don’t want this GM mortgaging future picks, to me he hasn’t earned anything. We better be 12-5 or better, and go deep in the playoffs. I am tired of the mediocrity, and the patience.
I totally get you on your lack of patience, but we need continuity… which is something that hasn’t been afforded to Tua.
We’ll see what happens… and I predict GRAND things this year, Bookman. 🙂
IF we can stay relatively injury-free, we’ve got a team that could possibly go very, very deep into the playoffs.
IF (I said IF) we don’t make the playoffs this year… *ahem*… we have a first-time HC!
Now that being said, I don’t want to hear anybody saying that this is Tua’s ‘last chance’. He’s on his 3rd OC (Coco’s last year) in 3 years, 2nd HC in 3 years, a totally different Offensive philosophy coming this year, and we shall see if the O-Line is truly fixed.
Patience is the key, and it’s not Tua’s fault that Steve Ross can’t keep continuity on the Offensive side of the ball. KUDOS to Mike McDaniel for at least keeping continuity on the Defensive side of the ball this year.
I didn’t realize Stephen Ross was a GM or HC. Dude… come on! You’re almost like a stalker with the guy.
LOL, my guy, but Steve Ross DOES hire the GM and the HC! 😉
Honestly (and I’ve said this very recently here), I applaud Steve Ross for spending out of his own pocket all of these 2022 signing bonuses to keep us under the cap. He’s doing everything he can to bring the Lombardi Trophy home to Miami.
I don’t dislike Steve Ross as much as you think I do… this year.
And so we come ‘full circle’ with the entire ALL-IN concept of our 2022 season. Steve Ross is just about ready to sell (IMO), and I LIKE what he’s doing this year!
I truly want to see Steve Ross bring us a Lombardi Trophy home!!! What Phin fan wouldn’t, right?
I have no more patience, I am beginning to hate that word. Just win!!!
I think/hope we’re all in for a wonderful surprise this year!
Well remember I was given a chairmanship for the Patience Brigade, I might have been a founding father. I’m tired of too much patience because time is speeding up. Try to win when you can.
Lol…the plan
Without overanalysis and without reading every post. I have no problem with an “all in” proclamation.
I understand that sounds desperate to some but teams get limited time to develop 1st round talent like Tua and Waddle and frankly I think the model du jour is to do what it takes to see if you should a) exercise a 5th year option on a high 1st round qb b) re-up him and c) build a dynasty.
For the first time in decades I believe this team (organazationally speaking) is actually trying. Whether I like the methods or not is trumped by the fact that I’m all on board with the strategy of trying.
Drinking the Kool aid!
mf13ss says:
April 18, 2022 at 9:46 pm
Honestly (and I’ve said this very recently here), I applaud Steve Ross for spending out of his own pocket all of these 2022 signing bonuses to keep us under the cap. He’s doing everything he can to bring the Lombardi Trophy home to Miami.
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Where do you get this? I am pretty sure that’s not allowed under the cap rules. If owners were allowed to pay bonuses “out of pocket” it would defeat the purpose of having a cap.
Who do YOU think pays the bonuses?
Sure it’s a Corp or something, but Ross is the Corp
To say out of pocket may not have been the right wording, but..
102.Channing Tindall LB Georgia
125.Alec Lindstrom OC Boston College
224.Josh Paschal EDGE Kentucky
247.Bamidele Olaseni OT Utah
THIS TEAM IS OUT OF EXCUSES!! NO MORE!!! NONE!!!!!!!!! IF THIS TEAEAM TODNO’T SHOW ANYTHING ANYUMORE THEN THEY ARE DONE111111
Did you run out of milk and use bourbon in your cornflakes this morning?
STEVE ROSS ALREADY PISSED IN THEM!!!1!!1111111! HES AOUT OF CUSES TOO1111111!!!!1
Phelon – Isn’t all our cap money being spent and funded by Steve Ross? The amount we’re allowed to spend is dictated by the cap, but Steve Ross is the one spending it.
Great assessment of our division, Mike.
in your article
New Jersey numbers
https://www.thephinsider.com/2022/4/18/23031145/miami-dolphins-assign-jersey-numbers-for-hill-armstead-others
What numbers will they wear in Miami?
New Jersey Mike will wear #0
Piggy #69
This is what I was getting at yesterday with the news Ward was highest paid CB
David Canter
@davidcanter
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Apr 18, 2022
Why? True apy is $16.67 vs Xavien $19. Player had a 5 th year fully guaranteed option rolled in. New money is $20apy vs our $25
Don’t compare the press release. Compare the real deal!
If X does complain next year someone outta take him out and shoot him