2022 Miami Dolphins Draft Picks

LB Channing Tindall – Georgia 6’2 -230 (RD3 pick#102)

With the Dolphins first pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, the Dolphins selected at #102 (3rd RD) LB Channing Tindall. Tindall was an explosive player for a fine Georgia defensive squad, but not a primary player. He was never a starter, albeit on a team loaded with talent and the best defense in college football. None of this matters now, Tindall will have to earn playing time here for the Dolphins defense, which is also stocked with talent, but his quickness and explosive speed could get him some snaps quickly. When you watch Tindall’s highlight reel, his suddenness really shows up, he closes on the ballcarriers so quickly and takes a very quick route to make the stop. Elandon Roberts is a thumper, but he’s limited as far as running sideline to sideline to make tackles, and really can’t cover a running back or TE. This is where Tindall may get some opportunities. Roberts is excellent plugging holes and shooting a gap into the backfield, but in space, his speed is a negative. Tindall can blitz, cover and make tackles sideline to sideline, much like his ILB mate #55, Jerome Baker. I can see these 2 forming a nice inside duo.

WR Erik Ezukanma – Texas Tech 6’2 209 (RD4 pick#125)

The Dolphins second pick in the 2022 NFL Draft was surprisingly a WR, Erik Ezukanma from Texas Tech. Ezukanma was one of the most productive WR’s in Texas Tech history finishing with some heady stats, 138 receptions for 2165 yards and 15 TD’s. He’s known for excellent ball skills, not so unlike the receiver he may be replacing, DeVante Parker. He doesn’t have the speed DeVante had as a rookie, running a mediocre 4.55 40, but he’s known for making very difficult catches in traffic. Unfortunately, DeVante’s worst ability was availability so we can only hope Ezucanma can flourish here and stay healthy. (Pronounced Eh-zoo-comma)

EDGE Cameron Goode – California 6’3 237 (RD7 pick#224)

With their 3rd pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, all the way in round 7, the Dolphins selected California OLB Cameron Goode. Goode is a little undersized for a 3-4 OLB so we’ll see if he can impress early on and somehow earn a roster spot. Goode was expected to go undrafted, but the Dolphins must have seen something in this kid they liked, so we’ll have to wait and see exactly what that is.

QB Skylar Thompson – Kansas State 6’2 219 (RD7 pick#247)

With the Dolphins final pick in the 2022 NFL Draft, the Dolphins selected QB Skylar Thompson of Kansas St. Thompson’s senior season was his best, he played in parts of 5 seasons. He had his best TD:INT ratio with 12 TD’s and 4 INT’s. With Teddy Bridgewater firmly entrenched as the backup QB, Thompson can only hope to land on the practice squad while showing some kind of hope for the future.

In addition to our 4 draftees, the Dolphins signed a number of UDFA’s as well. Here is a list, although I can’t say for sure this is the most up to date list.

Miami Dolphins

Kellen Diesch, OL, Arizona State
ZaQuandre White, RB, South Carolina
Blaise Andries, OL, Minnesota 
Kader Kohou, DB, Texas A&M Commerce 
Verone McKliney III, CB, Oregon 
Ty Clary, OL, Arkansas 
Tommy Heatherly, P, FIU
Tanner Conner, WR, Idaho State
DeAndre Johnson, DE, Tennessee
Braylon Sanders, WR, Mississippi
Jordan Williams, DT, Virginia TEch
Elijah Hamilton, DB, Louisiana Tech
Ben Stille, DL, Nebraska 

Besides our 4 draftees, and the undrafted free agent signings, I’d be remiss not to include the biggest piece of our draft haul, none other than #10 WR Tyreek Hill. His talent should take this offense to new heights, and make our young 3rd year QB’s job a lot easier. This offense will be much better than the 2021 version and Tua will be a big part of the success here. I look forward to watching this happen and very much look forward to shutting up his detractors. Hill, Waddle, Gesicki and our group of scatbacks should make it very interesting. It will be hard for any of our draft picks to make a huge impact in 2022, and I guess that’s a good thing. The roster is certainly better, as we added lots of talent in free agency and trades, and now tried to improve our depth with the draft, although we re-signed a lot of guys that will be the depth, but at least with our first pick Channing Tindall and our 2nd pick Erik Ezukanma, they bring something am little different to the table than we currently have.

#stangerstrong

GO DOLPHINS!!!

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818 Responses to 2022 Miami Dolphins Draft Picks

  1. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I’ve said it many times and I’ll say it again. The AFC is going to be tough. We had to dip into the talent pool to compete. If we kept our draft and kept rebuilding with young players, we would fall short again. We had to join the competition in 2022. You can’t keep rebuilding past 4 years. At some point go for it!

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      I agree, Tua needed some weapons to compete it’s a team sport. Look how many great teams playing without top WRs falter without them. With Hill and some OL Tua can be himself and just play, everything won’t have to be a struggle

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        …A struggle, because he’s playing with one hand tied behind his back (OL and WRs always hurt)

  2. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    MM looked at what Parker did when healthy and what he did the rest of the time and decided it wasn’t worth it to keep him. That’s what we need a coach that’s decisive and has a clue

  3. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    The thing on offense is we haven’t seen it yet. There’s plenty of talent but we haven’t seen it come to fruition yet. At least the projection looks good. 🙂

  4. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    TK, the Amoeba D, imo, is its own brand…..of course it varies against opposing O’s. It didn’t seem to exist in the first half of last season.

    And, I agree the previous two seasons our D scheme was amoeba-predominant. It was noticeable. Then, I had wtf moments the first part of last season, like where did it go.

    Maybe the injuries, inexperience, impacted its execution.

    Kinda to my original point, I’m not drinking the Koolaid yet, however, it does seem we might have found the complementary 4 down LB I think we needed to improve the D.

    • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

      It didn’t. Boyer even came out and said he changed things up during the offseason because he was afraid people would already have a counter for it after getting tape from 2020. Then they switched to the philosophy that they were going to do it until people were able to stop it. Tennessee was able to counter it by moving the pocket with boots, screens, and play action. It kept our defense on its toes and by the end of the game the D seemed demoralized. It was 17-3 going into the fourth. We could have made it a game, but didn’t.

  5. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    May the fourth be with you

  6. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    So how do our board attorneys feel about the Supreme Court leak?

  7. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Those of you still hating on Austin Jackson, maybe a little perspective is needed. The kid is 22 years old. Can we give him a little time? I bet he’s great this season at RT, just watch!

  8. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    To be fair Jackson has all the physical skills to be a successful OT. He just lacks any instinct necessary to play the position. Eichenberg has better instincts but lacks the physical skills to play the position. If we can only combine the 2. Oh well back to the lab

  9. pheloniusphish's avatar pheloniusphish says:

    Wasn’t trying to stir shit. Curious as to how an attorney feels about the situation. Supreme Court workings have always been held sacrosanct. Wasn’t addressing the contents of the leak, just the leak. People support abortion in varying degrees or they don’t.

    If I wanted to stir shit, I would have asked how everyone felt about Biden’s Ministry of Truth…

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Fair enough…..and that’s why I think we need a vaccine against the P-virus.

      One of the recent 3 appointees by Trump, should have been an Obama selection. Like I said, the P-virus is worse than COVID.

      Now the court is stacked to overturn Roe v Wade…the shit is being stirred. Too bad.

      So the SC is not sacrosanct, imo….

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I’ll second that, don’t want a long discussion on here about it either

        Rock graciously asked to stop yesterday and he was met with backlash, I’ll honor his request

        Don’t think what Stanger posted was a big deal, but only, because no one took the cheese

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Pp…I have so stepped away from politics that I don’t have clue what’s going on in Biden’s admin and don’t care.

      I care more about Brittany Griner and Russia holding one of our citizens for carrying personal vape products.

  10. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Krishna – To be fair, Stanger came on yesterday bringing up the very same topic. I read both Stanger’s post and Phelon’s post and didn’t feel that either one was trying to stir any shit

  11. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    And I stated above…fair enough.

  12. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    My apologies, pp!

  13. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Say what you want about Grier, 2020 FA wasn’t very good…or was it, we got Ogbah and Jones that stuck and several others that played good, but didn’t last, which I put on the Flores’ ego

    I think Tindall is going to be great, he has all the natural ability to be a 3 down LB, with that said I’m including him as a starter

    17 of our 25 starters, including ST 3 specialists we’re drafted by us, 2 on D Ogbah and Jones were brought in via FA, 5 on O were either brought in this year via trade or FA and Morstead

    That’s a pretty good job of building this team up, also he should get a lot of credit for the Tunsil trade, so if we make the playoffs and resemble a playoff team (unlike how the cheats playoff game went for them last year) Grier should get some votes for GM of the year

    Everyone here wanted a fresh slate at the top, but Ross stuck with Grier

    Think if it’s fair game to bash Ross in the past, he should be praised for keeping Grier

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      As far as the Jackson and Iggy picks, I think Grier went and got who Flores wanted. Those picks aren’t all on Grier. Had to say that because I figured someone was going to solely blame him on those picks.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        I’m not putting either in the bust category yet, but you can’t hit on every pick, even every 1st rounder, so I just take the overall draft and see how many quality players they produced

        20 players the last 4 years are still contributing on the team, compared to the number that stuck in any 4 year period prior, that’s why we’ve been challenging more for playoffs, instead of the 1st pick

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      Steve, being a CAP guy, I am surprised you didn’t mention that as well. He has done a good job on managing that and with the contracts.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Yes we’re in a good place with the cap, don’t think it’s his job, believe we have a capologist, but I’m kind of neutral on wasted cap space vs him doing a good job with it, so I left it out

        What has been a good job is the length of contracts, that’s what has really kept us in a good place with the cap, imagine if those jettisoned after 2020 had 4yr contracts

  14. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    My only input on Roe vs Wade. My cousin’s (who is like a brother to me) last name is Roe and his wife’s maiden name is Wade. lol

  15. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    https://phinphanatic.com/2022/05/04/cameron-goode-cant-wait-get-miami-dolphins-drafted/

    Must be a grass is greener thing, but I can’t wait to get out of the west, especially since it’s crown jewel is a sewer

  16. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    2022 the Fins great reset 2.0, 2020 was supposed to be the year that we got some talent and it was to some respect, but after Flores sent KVN and others packing, it turned out to be mostly a dud, included in that the slow maturation of the 3 1s

    Because of the short contracts, we were able to cut ties with the scrap, keep Jones and Ogbah, and have plenty of cap to bring in some great pieces

    Most people don’t get a second chance like Grier is getting, it better work this time though

  17. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Watching some 5 second videos from this week’s practice, think something is brewing in Miami

    The vibe seems to be different, gone are the Flores/Belicheatian stench

    Seems laid back, like no one is all over your ass, yet very professional in drills

  18. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    ok been waiting for some verification on McKinley.
    interesting $$$ numbers
    Dolphins UDFAs:
    DB Oregon 4.65 40 Verone McKinley $85K gtd, $75K of salary gtd, $10K bonus
    WR Ole Miss 4.48 40 Braylon Sanders $140K gtd, $125K of salary gtd, $15K bonus

  19. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I think Grier was offered a second chance as it was difficult to “see” what he controlled/contributed vs others.

    The hiring of Flores was his start….with a demolition of what we had.

    Then, the rebuild to today, money in the cap, and future capital for growth and a long term vision….

    Been saying this about Grier….stick to the plan….and he has.

  20. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    McDaniel and Grier say during the first round of the draft they had nothing to do,
    but they had to watch,
    so they bonded over sushi and cherry pepsi.
    Sushi is awesome, but cherry pepsi?? ewwww

  21. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    Oronde getting some love on Twitter today. Used to love watching him play. By no means perfect, but fun nevertheless.

  22. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    pheloniusphish says:
    May 4, 2022 at 7:51 am
    So how do our board attorneys feel about the Supreme Court leak?

    ****

    Same as Ken. I was disappointed

    But I don’t want to talk about it here. Even when I try to make a legal analysis I have my biases about it and general constitutional analysis. And if I post them, I’m just going to stir things up.

    Not saying we can’t talk about those things, but right now, right after it’s in the news – it’s probably going to get the most inflammatory responses

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Haven’t read the draft pleading, but not hard to envision how the new originalist court came to a different conclusion than the expansionist one 50 years ago.

  23. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    On this day 2 years ago we lost a great.

    RIP Don Shula

  24. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article260379512.html

    “Deiter started eight games last season, missing substantial time with a foot injury before returning for the final five games. He said he’s “a lot better” at center than he was a year ago but “I can be a lot better still. I’m more confident this offseason than a year ago. It’s going good.” Deiter echoed multiple teammates in expressing excitement about the Dolphins’ new zone running scheme that’s being implemented by new coach Mike McDaniel. “It’s a system where we can play with confidence, cut it loose, worry about winning, not worry about losing,” he said. “It’s a ton of fun because we can play with confidence. It seems really exciting.”

    Go Deiter! Show us! Make the pro-bowl this year.

  25. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I didn’t know there was a cut-off date for the Comp pick formula. Interesting. Also – Players available

  26. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    PhinFanatic has a post out about the top 5 pass rushers we will face this season. They just happen to be the top 5 in the league last year.

    https://phinphanatic.com/2022/05/04/top-5-pass-rushers-miami-dolphins-will-face-2022/

    #5: Trey Hendrickson
    #4: Nick Bosa
    #3: Myles Garrett
    #2: Robert Quinn
    #1: T.J. Watt

    HOPEFULLY with our “improved” o-line we can limit this guys this season!

  27. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    https://www.thephinsider.com/2022/5/4/23057023/miami-dolphins-cameron-wake-retire-all-time-great-sacks

    I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY AGREE!!! SIGN HIM!
    We need to start a petition or something.

  28. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Cut from Dieter comment:

    “It’s a system where we can play with confidence, cut it loose, worry about winning, not worry about losing,” he said. “It’s a ton of fun because we can play with confidence. It seems really exciting.”
    —————————-
    This is what ORob and I were pounding the table about last year. This was a huge factor in in our OL regressing after Gailey left and Flores hired the 2 OC’s who did not know what they were doing and left our OL dazed and confused. They couldn’t attack the defense last year and had NO confidence in the system mainly because it wasn’t a system. They were worried about “not Losing” instead.

    Dieter says it himself if you read between the lines. NOW, “we can play with confidence” and “cut it loose”!

    I think we could see a big turnaround on a few players returning on the OL now that they have a SYSTEM they believe in/buy into and a great staff to teach it. There will be growing pains early in the season, but I feel some good vibes regarding our OL.

    Before OD and Ken chew into me…

    Now, SHOW ME!!!

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Well, I will! Lol!

      I would leave Orob out of your statement above as my understanding is that he blamed Tua, because Tua couldn’t make the adjustment/play at LOS. It was always Tua’s fault, even when D couldn’t stop anyone….lol!

  29. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 4, 2022 at 2:49 pm
    You really don’t want to get compensatory picks. It means you lost more players than you gained.

    Reply

    Not necessarily. If you draft well and have a youngun in line to take their job, then it’s better to get the comp pick. It’s only when you gain more free agents than you lose that it is a problem. It is also better for the salary cap situation.

  30. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    So Jackson has been working at RT so far in these early spring camps. It would be great if he could lock that down and play well.

  31. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Actually when you look at the teams that have the most comp picks since it started, the top 5 are all very successful teams. It makes sense. Your team succeeds, you can’t pay all your players, you get comps when you have to let some of them walk.

    1: Ravens – 53
    2: Packers – 43
    3: Patriots – 40
    4: Cowboys – 38
    5: Steelers – 35

    Bottom 5 are Chargers, Texans, Jets, Browns, Saints.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      There is another factor with those teams. 😉

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        QB position obviously contributes to success, but the conversation isn’t what makes teams successful, it was about whether you want comps or not. Saying you don’t want comps is clearly wrong as, generally speaking, successful teams seem to do quite well getting comps, lol.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        What’s the results of those actual picks? They’re all end of the 3rd round and on.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Sure, that’s one path you could take, trying to spin it into something no one was talking about, or you could just admit your statement was wrong. 😉

        Are you really trying to say 3rd picks are useless to justify an incorrect statement?

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Cav, you’re beating a dead horse, been trying to do that for 15 yrs

  32. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    I would want comp picks every year. It is an indicator to me that you are drafting / signing cheep FA successfully and replacing older declining players who you allow to leave in free agency.

    (as long as you are successful at replacing said players with younger / cheaper guys.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      That’s not really what the formula does. Older declining players who you allow to leave in free agency don’t usually get big contracts and cheap FA signings don’t usually land you comp picks.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        Perhaps Declining players was the wrong phrase. Older players trying to get that last big contract would be worded better.

        Either way, if you are drafting successfully and / or signing and developing cheaper FA’s than you allow to walk without extending their contracts it is better for your roster than not.

  33. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    It would be a big exorcize to track all the comp picks since 1994 when the practice started to answer that question Tim. The simplest answer is: Picks are better than no picks. Even if you “throw in” your comp pick to move it was worth SOMETHING.

  34. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Kong, you get comp picks because you lose top players to big money in FA. I highly doubt those comp picks replace studs who got their big payday. And most comp picks are not 3rd round picks. Look at the percentage of success of the 4th round (3rd round comp picks are really 4th round value) and on and see if that replaces those top players.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      You want to change the conversation into something different any way you can. You said “You really don’t want to get compensatory picks. It means you lost more players than you gained.” You’re just wrong, bro.

      Ask any team out there if they would rather have an extra late 3rd, and extra late 4th or an extra late 5th. They would all say yes.

      Building a system where you have to let good players walk in FA because you have more good players than you can pay when they come up for FA, that’s is a good thing and a number of good teams do that. It means, yes, you lose some good players, but you get compensated for it.

      You think GMs let a FA walk and plan to replace him with the comp they get the following year? That’s pretty dumb logic. A decent GM will already have that replacement player on the team when the FA walks, then use that comp pick the following year to acquire more assets. It’s an asset business and extra picks is a good thing.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        worded much better than the reply I deleted. LOL

        Go KONG!

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        We’ve had this discussion many times over the years. I’m not changing the discussion, I’m discussing exactly what it’s about.

        So you don’t believe in drafting well, developing and keeping your own so you don’t have to go big into FA, and you keep your team in tact? If you do that you don’t get comp picks.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Tim was wrong once and went to post he was wrong, but he just couldn’t hit send😜

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Tim — look at it this way…. if every player you drafted was destined for the HOF, wouldn’t be long before you couldn’t keep them all under the cap. and yes that would mean getting a gusher of comp picks.

  35. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I’m not sure I like the idea of compensatory picks, period. Seems like rewarding a stacked team when they have to let a stud go, due to salary cap ramifications.

  36. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Obi-Wan Official Trailer!!!

  37. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Guys, you don’t have to be jackasses about it. It’s my opinion. Go find the intel on those comp picks production and then come back to me. Most of them are 5th, 6th and 7th rounds. Very few are 3rds and 4ths. If you think those rounds are what keep teams going, then all teams should trade their top picks for a boat load of them every year. LOL

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Again, no one mentioned the worth of those picks until you decided to switch it up. It’s not even relevant. You said getting comps was a bad thing. That is what everyone is saying you are wrong about. It’s all there in black and white even if you can’t admit it.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        What did I switch up?

        So the worth of picks isn’t important? Everyone freaks out when we don’t have top picks and many here say the value of later picks have a low percentage of success. Now you’re suggesting the sweet spot in the draft is in the late 90’s and on.

        I also didn’t say it was a “bad” thing, I said you don’t really want to be getting them because it means you lost good players and didn’t replace their value. Let me rephrase it, you don’t want to get them often. If you’re cap situation is bad and you can’t re-sign your top players or go after the top FAs, that’s when you get comp picks the following year. That’s not a place I want my team to be in.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        And he changes it up again, but we still love you Tim, bless her heart😏

  38. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    So Rock is hitting the Homeraide again about Dieter and BBM is dancing in the snow about him

  39. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    No Tim, I don’t believe in those things. Neither do the Ravens, Packers, Patriots, Cowboys, or Steelers. (sarcasm)

    So here’s what’s wrong with your strawman (even taken at face value).

    If you draft well, develop, and don’t go big in FA, then when all your excellent players come up for their big contracts, you have to make decisions because you can’t pay them all. Or you have a combination of good players you’ve drafted and acquired in FA, and you replace some of them through the draft, etc. The key is if you have a team full of talent, when contracts come up, you have to make decisions because you can’t keep them all.

    So one thing you might do is let some of those studs walk, continue to draft well and replace the ones you let walk, not go big in FA, and you get compensatory picks. Wow, what a concept.

    Why do you think the Ravens top the list? Because they go big in FA every year? Because they don’t draft well. because they don’t develop their players? Why did the Pets get comps every freaking year, it was so regular it became a joke around here.

    It’s fascinating to see you argue against actual data which shows successful teams often have a lot of comps. Literally the top 5 are 5 of the top franchises in the NFL, period.

    What is you’re actual argument in the face of that?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      To an extent though, that the teams that get the most comp picks are good ones may be a byproduct of being good instead of a quest for comp picks.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        That is a large part of what I’ve been arguing and illustrating. Good teams often have a system that generates comps by virtue of being good, lol.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        Was just putting out the Reader’s Digest version. Well that and that the value of comp picks argument is a minor and tangential one.

  40. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Dieter gets no push especially in short yardage situations. He was okay in pass protection

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      How much push does he need in an outside zone?

      It’s built on leverage, why do you see the smallest guys crush bigger receivers and backs along the sideline?

      Because they have leverage

      outside zone, while harder to do than push someone out trying to balance the sideline, the principal or laws of gravity are the same

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        He needs more I don’t care how much zone we play at OC you are still at the point of attack with little to no momentum when you make contact

  41. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Tim – there are 2 sides to the compensatory pick argument. The Patriots, Steelers and Ravens were pretty keen on letting players go before their 3rd contract. Those players were let go, signed big contracts elsewhere and netted those teams a nice compensatory pick when they had no intention of giving them a big contract offer. In that regard, it works well. If you’re losing players on their 2nd contracts and they sign a big contract elsewhere and succeed, you fucked up somewhere, either in your evaluation of that player or your ability to use the cap

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Or your system makes players look better than they are, so the players are interchangeable to you, but the grass is greener, can’t develop their own players teams over pay

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I agree with that. Those 3 teams get the most comp picks overall because they’ve had stability with HC’s, QBs and they’ve been good for decades. So of course when you tally it up they’ll have the most. But you don’t want to be losing value and gaining less on a regular basis. That makes no sense to me.

  42. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Ken, I am NOT drinking the homeraide. I just shared an article about him and said SHOW US. I didn’t make a prediction about him or even express any optimism about him.

    That shit is poison and will make you go blind. Just say no to Homeraide!

  43. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Wyoming85 says:
    May 3, 2022 at 8:29 am
    MF13 going to work this morning??????

    —————–
    WOW, dude. You just HAD to share this clip with everyone, revealing my alter-ego, didn’t ya?
    LOL 😉 😆

    That’s pretty awesome! Thanks for sharing, Brother!

  44. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    My wife texts “Really? You’d rather argue with Tim on your lunch break than talk to me?”

  45. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Tim, what are you talking about?

    I never said anything at all about the values of the picks other than to say extra picks in the 3rd 4th or 5th is a good thing because extra picks are always a good thing. They are assets.

    You are the only one talking about the exact value of the picks, because you have no other angle of attack to support your weak statement that ‘you don’t really want comp picks’.

    I certainly didn’t suggest in any way whatsoever they are the ‘sweet spot’. That is called a strawman argument- taking another person’s argument or point, distorting it or exaggerating it in some kind of extreme way, and then attacking the distortion. It’s your go to fallacy.

    As for value of the comps, you keep wanting to compare them to the player lost. The reason you lost the player isn’t to replace them with a comp. It’s because you made a necessary business decision. If you lose that player, do you want some value in return or nothing? Not a tough question, smh.

    As a matter of fact, one of the ways you don’t get value in return is if you also go big in FA, which is exactly what you are arguing against. If you apply logic, your ideas of building a team fit perfectly with being a team that gets comps, lol.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Okay you win. It’s not that big of a deal anyway. Too much time spent on it.

      One more point though, I agree with M13 that it shouldn’t be in place anyway. Now they give them out for teams developing minority coaches and executives and I don’t think that’s a good practice either.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Kong…

  46. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Kong – as long as you make her swing from the trees when you get home, she’ll forget about Tim.

  47. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Tim:
    Look out Kong is on the loose. Last sighted in Manhattan looking for some tall buildings so he can peek over into New Jersey

  48. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    So my take on this whole debate is that if you get a compensatory pick that means you lost a good player in free agency. But on the flip side if you are going to lose a good player in free agency isn’t better to get a compensatory instead of nothing. I mean the reality is you can’t keep all your free agents with a salary cap. I really don’t see what there is to debate

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think it was put in place to help balance the league because of cheap owners.

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        That was the purpose of the salary cap to create parity. I still don’t get the debate

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        It also screwed teams that were good at building good teams. Hey those guys are too good and we always suck. Please help us.

  49. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    May the 4th be with you as well

  50. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Back when the Pats were running like an unstoppable machine they would:

    1 — Trade off big name guys when a sign of on the downhill came (think Richard Seymour)

    2 — Trade down/forward in the draft (a 2nd for a 1st the next year a favorite)

    3 – Get the most comp picks in the league year after year

    4 — Use lower picks to package and trade up or get more valuable ones next year

    5 — regularly cut 3rd and 4th round picks cause their roster was that stocked

    Yeah I want the Dolphins to be that team.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Get rid of a player 1 yr early, instead of 1 yr late

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      When it first started it was to help bad teams that wouldn’t pay their top players. Remember before FA when top players wanted to get paid and cheap owners wouldn’t pay them, we had all those holdouts? I guess now it’s flipped the other way.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Exactly, and why it should be removed

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Humans will always find the LCD (lowest common denominator), just as water will always find the easiest way out of containment.

  51. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I think the better teams tend to have the better players, so they are probably going to lose more of those better players to FA. Also, better teams can afford to lose better players, so they may be willing to part with them more than other teams. I’m not so sure getting comp picks MAKES you a better team….or that they do it as a strategy because they feel it makes them better. I think it’s probably the reverse in that better teams can afford to do it.

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      And these better teams are more prone to select another great player with a compensatory selection, rather than a team that truly is mired in either mediocrity or far worse.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I think I was stuck in the old school way of thinking where bad (cheap) teams were rewarded comp picks because they didn’t pay their top players and would lose value. Now it’s flipped where the better teams get them because of what Kong and you are saying. Now teams that don’t draft well and develop are usually the ones that go big in FA to replenish their teams and that’s not the best way to build a team.

  52. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Better teams have players other teams want, so they’re more likely to get comp picks and losing the non core player doesn’t mean as much to them

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It’s also because teams now overpay non-elite players like they are elite players and it screws up the whole system. Christian Kirk is a good example. He’s one of the top paid WRs and he’s not one of the top WRs in the league.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Excellent point, Tim. Now the question becomes: why did the Jags DRASTICALLY overpay Christian Kirk, being he wasn’t worth it? Shit, had they waited, they could have paid the same for a WR FAR better than Kirk.

        Why did they do it, is the question?

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        And if ya think Shahid Khan is that foolish, I’ve got land to sell ya at the bottom of Atlantis.

  53. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I think Tim’s argument was more feasible before coMps could be traded.. that has made them a much much more valuable asset.

  54. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Also did getting comp picks MAKE those top 5 teams good ? or were those FOs so good at early round drafting that they always had more good players than they could pay?

  55. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Those bottom teams also seemed to be unable to recognize which college players would bust, so they needed to see that they were good in the NFL before they could tell, so they were forced to overpay for players to teams that knew young talent.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      The biggest problem in sports is that there are owners in it for money and not to compete. If you’re not trying to win, don’t own a sports franchise.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        But that doesn’t apply to the NFL, because you have to spend 90% I believe of your cap

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yeah they try to have parity, but there are ways around it just like the cap can be manipulated with teams going all out to win even when they’re cap situation is tapped.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Please explain how teams can manipulate the min?

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Keep it at 90% and don’t sign your best player to the big contract.
        Owner: I’m not paying him $60M guaranteed.

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        That’s not manipulating the min, it’s exactly as the rule intended

        That 20m they save by only spending 90% is chump change to those guys, compared to baseball, when the Marliins owner would spend 20m and get money from the Yankees that spent 300m

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Instead of paying a player that makes a difference you do just enough to put the product out there. You don’t think that happens?

  56. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Isn’t being an owner about making money? That’s what owners do….lol

    Not sure I see the flaw…

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Sports is about entertainment and competition. If you’re not in it to win, you’re taking advantage of your fans who pay big money to go to the games. The owner profits and doesn’t care if he/she wins or not. That’s not cool.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        If you win they make more money because more people show up and buy.

        Entertainment with a losing product doesn’t sell….facts

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yeah it does. As long as the fans keep coming. Look at the prices of everything when you go to a game. The markup is like 500%. They charge you to park when you already paid for tickets. What the fuck are you supposed to, walk to the stadium.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Business 101….

  57. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I can’t think of one in 32 is just in it for the appreciation, i.e. value going up like a piece a land in ATX…lol.

  58. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    TK, if you’re going to argue a few billionaires out of 32 are in for the money, appreciation, unrealized gains to be converted to realized gains, I guess that’s one’s perspective.

    I would never be an owner of an NFL team just for the investment…..I’m a competitive mother fucker and would own to win…lol

  59. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Krishna, I consider entertainment and sports different than typical business. If it’s all about money and a shitty product, invest in something else. You’re profiting off of fans when you know you don’t care about winning but you lied to them and said you are. Fans are addicts, they support your franchise and have hope and some owners don’t give a shit! It’s a moral thing. Is that no longer a virtue.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Well, it’s a virtue for me to always do my best. So as an owner, I would do my best to win and make a nice profit. I never have to make the most.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        The Lions are one of the oldest franchises and least successful teams in NFL history during the Super Bowl era. They’ve never been to a Super Bowl. The same family has owned them for decades. They’re not losing money not being good on the football field.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Not sure what your point is…sorry.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Winning is not paramount.

  60. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I know some of this was touched on earlier but not sure if the entire thing was posted. What Deiter is touching on is why we can’t move the ball on the Bills. It’s not just their offense, their defense kicks our ass. That’s where the ass kicking starts.

    Michael Deiter breaks down the difference in a zone-blocking scheme in an interesting way

  61. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    He’s referring to Mike McDaniel, Frank Smith and Matt Applebaum.

    “You can just tell talking with them that running the ball is something that is important to all three of them and it’s cool,” Deiter said “As an o-lineman, that’s always pretty refreshing to hear. The way I think they’re so successful is the detail, the way they break it down to make it almost simple and how you can be effective and how you can run the ball effectively. It’s cool to have three guys who are smart and care about the run and want to get it going no matter what. When they can break it down and simplify it for you, it gives you a lot of confidence.”

  62. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Good kid. I like him, he’s humble and confident.

  63. herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

    Should we add compensatory picks to the list of trigger words? 😂

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      New trigger phrases for May 2022

      – “comp picks”
      – “pork buffet”

      The blog has been officially warned

  64. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Add in Roe v Wade

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      If government would stop over-stepping their bounds life would be easier. They create crime and obstacles.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Honestly, they should just leave this one alone. If they want to impose some limits as to how far into a pregnancy an abortion can happen, they can leave that to the state level. Otherwise, don’t go flipping anything.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I agree! Stop meddling in people’s affairs if they’re not violating the rights of others. It’s pretty simple stuff. We’re a land of laws, abide by them. It’s not that crazy. We’re trying to make you free but you still have a problem with that. WTF?!!!!

      • New Age's avatar New Age says:

        That’s the original place abortion was handled (state level). It should be brought back to the state level. Let people decide in their states how they want to handle it, not Big Government or the SCOTUS mandating rights.

  65. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:
  66. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Geez, loueez…and all I was going to say, 50 years…lol

  67. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Sacrosanct? LMAO!

    Let’s try leave me and my body alone to be free….KISS.

  68. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    So, I come back and now the Dolphins goal should be no more comp picks? Ok, I’m on board! Kong, explain it to me…. 😉

  69. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    New Age, I think the biggest mistake the forefathers made was the Supreme Court Justices. Why give them life power?

    All that does is have people freaking out about decisions based on majority.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      I agree somewhat especially considering how Biden is doing. These people are there even if mentally unstable, which can occur just from being sick. Once elected by whichever president and congress is in office, they stay forever.

      The modern problem is when judges try to create law when their purpose is to interpret. It’s not up to 7 people to decide if a woman should be allowed to kill her child. It should be up to the citizens in that state. This was federal overreach 50 years ago and needs fixed.

  70. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    That said, the state should never own you. You’re an individual, not a subject of the state. That’s just as bad as being federally corrupt.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      Covid restrictions and mandates were much closer to owning people than this nonsense lol. Move. It’s a simple process in this country. You should never dictate for everyone else what is acceptable, and a small minority shouldn’t hold everyone hostage to their desires. If your neighbors agree, it’s all good.

  71. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    New Age – I’m not pro choice or pro life, but I do think there should be an expiration as to how far into a pregnancy an abortion can happen. You know what will happen if you leave it to the state level, the blue states will be allowing abortions until 5 minutes before the baby is born and the red states won’t have abortion at all. There may be a few outliers on both sides, but that doesn’t really solve anything in my opinion. NY is already advertising themselves as the abortion state, a safe haven for all women. Politics is politics New Age, whether it’s which side has the presidency, or what state you live in. I don’t see a big difference between the two.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      Politics will always be politics, but state based is closer to what the people really want than federal mandate. The SCOTUS should have never involved itself in law making. Florida is the only state that shows why people are having abortions for a reason. Politics and hiding the truth for political gain. Let’s air out the dirty laundry.

      Blue states were already pushing for abortion at birth and red states are pushing for no abortion after 6 weeks. Nothing is changing outside of the people using their voices. Let each state’s citizens decide for themselves instead of a universal mandate. I see far more people’s choice in that type of decision than federal mandates.

  72. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    It’s wild how one issue can divide an entire nation enough to distract its citizens from getting actual representation from their public servants.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      It’s wild how a woman I know is blaming the penis on Facebook. She said “It all starts with the penis, REGULATE THAT!”. I think many times it starts with the vagina, or a mutual decision between vagina and penis.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      It’s not just one issue. Ukraine! Look, look! Trump said this, look, look! Etc etc. We waste all your money on other nation’s citizens, don’t look! We’ve gotten rich off 250,000 a year. Definitely don’t look!

  73. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    My take the leak is all about Nov. The “people” have calmed down on social media with exception of the far right and far left. The majority who are closer to the middle have chilled for the most part and, to some extent, come closer together. I am talking about the ones on the left who see where their admin is failing and the ones on the right who want no more Trump. This group is growing.

    With elections 6 months away, the powers-to-be decided it is time to start dividing the majority. Strike up ANTIFA in Portland and leak R vs W just for starters. Media is already blowing up over it and pointing fingers at certain politicians over their stance on R vs W. If R vs W debates are not enough to divide, something else will come up/happen in 3-4 months.

    I think this leak was done to stir the people and divide prior to elections.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      My first thought, too. Agree.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      Yep. It will continue. Ukraine was all about hoping people would find something Joe did right. This and Covid are meant to rile or scare people. Lots of angles when the primaries are showing big Dem losses. That mandate must not have been too strong.

  74. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I have no clue what she meant by that, but one major intention that she is espousing is how government (politics) and religion (sorry, but true) ruled mostly by men exercise their control over women.

    History provides thousands of years of examples of the penis controlling the vagina….lol.

    • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

      There are 5 penis’ and 3 vaginas on the current SCOTUS. I guess the penis’ need to be blamed.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Lol…I didn’t say that and you know that….

        Politics, ruled by money (lobbyists) allow or leak corruption to the SC. IMO, the SC should reflect the intention of the constitution in that we are all created equal and a right to the pursuit of liberty….that means both men and women on an equal basis.

        Why after 50 years is this an issue? Penis in power (lmfao) wants to control the vagina….get votes….

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Why are fucking talking about this? It’s about power and control, imo.

        I see NO redeeming value in controlling a woman’s body…..maybe you do.

  75. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Every law in existence controls our bodies so that’s not really a valid argument.

  76. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Krishna – Absolutely not. Said above we should just leave this alone, not change it. No need to overturn Roe v Wade, it’s a mistake.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      I disagree. It was a mistake and federal overreach. Time to reduce the Fed and give back some power to the people. If the people want abortion, their votes should mirror that desire.

  77. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Randy, I didn’t even bother watching the game last night. I knew the Wild were going to be unstoppable, no way they could let themselves go to St Louis down 0-2. Now the series really begins. I’d be lying if I said I’m not nervous.

  78. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Sheesh, I really killed the blog, lol.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      That was me bro lol.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Lol, it seemed you guys were having a good discussion and I went and brought up hockey. Who knew hockey was so controversial 🤷 😂

      • New Age's avatar New Age says:

        Lol, I once watched a lot of hockey and don’t know why I stopped. It was about the same time Mr Roy was a dominant goalie and now they are back? Is it time?

  79. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Kong,
    It was a fun game to watch last night….for Wild fans. These two teams are so closely matched. It’s gonna be interesting to see how the Blues manage their defender injury issues. I’ll be surprised if the series doesn’t go 7, and I’m glad game 7 would be in MN. The Wild have actually been really good on the road this season, so I’m kinda hopefully they can get home ice advantage back.

  80. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    You know what never comes into play in the whole abortion issue? Father’s rights. Legally, we have none. If a woman decides to have an abortion, there is nothing the father can do about it. I believe the woman doesn’t even have to notify the father due to privacy issues. But, if a woman decides to have that baby, we’re held financially responsible. So, ultimately, a woman can decide for herself, the baby’s AND the father without anybody else having any legal grounds to do anything about it. Fair?

    • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

      Since men are certainly aware of what causes pregnancy, you do have a choice. You also have a choice whether to be involved or not in raising/parenting a child. Men don’t carry a child, endure sickness, weight gain, stretch marks, PAIN, MORE PAIN, etc. Women generally are tasked with childcare. On and on. Don’t talk to me about FAIR as if the entire child bearing and raising issue is equally split except for this one thing because it’s not even close.

  81. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Kong,
    Why are you overvaluing comp picks? Also, maybe if we hadn’t gone all in, we would have more draft picks, and then would have been allowed to choose BPA.

  82. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Herd,
    So do women. They have a choice. In normal situations women are the ones who decide if the sexual act takes place…not the man. But, unlike men, they also get to choose what to do after conception.
    ***
    And women are not tasked with child rearing alone anymore. That’s an antiquated idea. Many men carry that role too. Women perpetuate the myth because it favors them.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      You can’t seriously be writing that without laughing

      Women carry the physical burden of pregnancy and birth, nothing a man does is close

      Of course women have a choice, she wasn’t debating that

      It’s like using a virtual payment method, you click the button to send the money, you had better be sure it’s going to the right place for the right reason

    • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

      You can say it all you want. It’s not the same thing. Unless and until there is a choice of who is actually pregnant, it will never be equal. Women get to choose what happens after conception because it is happening to them, to their body. Are you going to give up the right of what happens to you or your body to someone else, would you think that’s fair? And while some men may be highly involved in parenting or go it alone, that’s not the norm. In fact, people make a big fuss about it. Look what these guys are doing! WOW! Taking care of their child. Women have done it for centuries and no one was batting an eye.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        Not even close to the same thing….but if a man isn’t in control, it’s threatening and emasculating to a lot of them. Hmmm….lmao.

  83. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Steve,
    So a man can’t even bring up the idea of having rights when it comes to their child and whether or not it’s born? That was my point. Herd chose to make it about something else. I simply pointed out that women have a choice too. After conception, fathers no longer have a choice in whether or not that child is born. Simply because fathers aren’t the ones who are actually pregnant somehow that invalidates our rights? If a woman didn’t want to be pregnant, she had a choice not to be.
    ***
    I am a firm believer in a woman’s right to choose, but I also believe that a father should have some basic rights too. We don’t. That was my statement.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      The government has no right to tell a woman to have a baby. The fact that this is even being discussed shows what’s wrong with government. Get the fuck out of people’s private lives.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Isn’t the way they handle it the practical one. Imagine changing the law so that a husband could sue to make a woman bring a child to term. The specifics on that are down right ugly.

      All for the father being able to assert parental rights post-birth though.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Randy, men do have rights….but that should never extend to controlling the rights of woman and her body. Sorry man. It’s her body. If you want a child, find a woman who will be willing to bear your child vs one who won’t. KISS. You can offer sperm up until your deathbed and feel complete 9 months later….lol.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      That’s correct, no rights for men and we’re still on the easier side

      When you throw a rock thru a car window, do you get rights to choose the consequences

  84. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Men have to be held accountable for their actions too, and they are through child support and other things

    The welfare state is the biggest problem in the country the last half century or so, it’s allowed low income men to circumvent these responsibilities, leaving single moms to raise too many children

    The kids grow up without a dad to kick them in the nuts when they get out of line

    A boy grows up in the middle class without a dad and they may have some issues, but will function in society for the most part

    A boy that grows up in the lower class without a dad has the odds against him to succeed

    Class is the problem and not race

  85. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler is reporting the Miami Dolphins met with free agent running back Sony Michel on Wednesday.

  86. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Wow, I never once said a woman shouldn’t have the right to choose. I simply pointed out that fathers have no rights in this issue, and I do not believe it’s fair. I’m not saying a man should get to choose for a woman. I don’t know what you guys are referring to when you say father have rights too when it comes to the abortion issue. We don’t.

    • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

      You were speaking as to what was FAIR. And since the woman has the burden of bearing children, it is FAIR they make the decisions regarding anything to do with the pregnancy or if there is one.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Then, you are correct! You have no rights about what a woman does with her body….at least that’s settled.

      Further, I have never met a man who spoke about how he got “lucky” and said he hopes she has my baby….lol. Perhaps a man should plan better if he wants a baby….lmao.

  87. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    So how about those Miami Dolphins!!!

  88. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim,

    What do YOU think about adding Sony Michel? Personally, I don’t feel he’d be much of an upgrade… if at all.

  89. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Person: Let’s have a conversation about beds.
    This blog: You can sleep on couches and inside of a bathtub!!! What about a reclining chair?

    I don’t know if it’s poor reading comprehension, the inability to formulate a coherent and logical argument, or both, but a lot of you guys don’t know how to have an adult conversation at all.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Topics can skip a lot. Can start on “global thermonuclear war” and finish on “pickles.”

      • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

        I’m clearly not talking about topic skipping. I’m talking about people creating strawmen intentional or otherwise. Literally no one who responded to Randy actually read his post and made and actual counterpoint to what he was saying.

      • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

        I pretty much did….perhaps it’s a comprehension issue.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        sb7 — I responded. Thought I did to Randy saying “So a man can’t even bring up the idea of having rights when it comes to their child and whether or not it’s born? “

  90. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Herd,
    I was clearly speaking about what was fair when it comes to the issue of abortion. That was the topic at hand. I do believe that it’s a woman’s right to choose. I would never presume to tell a woman she could or could not have an abortion. But, does that mean that a father has absolutely no rights at all? If that is my child, I would hope I was part of that conversation and at the very least my voice was heard in some fashion. I’m not saying a man should get to choose. I never said that.

    • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

      Clearly this is a decision that ideally would be made with input by both parties but even saying that, the woman gets the final word. And that is fair.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      It’s not “fair” and it shouldn’t be….I think that’s been addressed several times. Maybe, you don’t like the answer.

  91. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I understand that this team seems to have one cookie-cutter size mold for RBs, but I think it to be wise to add a power back.

  92. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I see Big Carlos Hyde is still out there as a FA. Mike Daniel was his run-game coordinator for the 49ers in 2017… most rushing TDs (8) Hyde has ever put up in a single season. Damn near broke 1,000 yards as well (938).

    Of course, that was 5 years ago and Hyde will be 32 years old in September.

  93. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “Jevon has a chance to be pretty good in this league. Just how he comes into work each and every day. That was the biggest thing that I learned. He even took a year off of ball before he got drafted and everything and still came in kind of ready to play and was able to do some really good things for us early on and it’s just impressive to watch. He’s athletic, he’s big, and something that surprised me more than anything is just how cerebral he is back there. Like making the calls, doing some of the things you have to do at the safety position in our defense was really impressive. He’s kind of a kid who just loves playing ball, too, so it’s fun to watch. He brings that nice young spirit, too. He’s a good teammate.”
    — Wilkins on Holland

  94. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    I’d sign Carlos Hyde… he still has PLENTY left in the tank…

  95. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    steveccnv says:
    May 5, 2022 at 3:20 pm
    It’s worth nothing, he ain’t getting 5m at this stage of FA
    ————
    Absolutely agreed on Michel’s $$$. I’d still rather have Carlos Hyde.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I’m really not concerned if we sign another RB or not.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        No? That surprises me to hear ya say that, bud. Depth is most important, especially at the RB position. The last 3 years alone have taught us as much.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        I should have said vets like Michel or Hyde. We already have 6 RBs on the roster. Maybe if a young back falls through the cracks or another UDFA.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I want us to get a power back like Hyde, and I don’t believe Doaks is going to be some kind of magical story.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        The running game is McDaniel’s specialty so if he feels he needs another RB or power back they’ll bring one in.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Can’t see either getting more than 2m, prefer Michel

  96. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Tim Knight says:
    May 5, 2022 at 3:57 pm
    The running game is McDaniel’s specialty so if he feels he needs another RB or power back they’ll bring one in.
    ————-
    Totally agreed! Seems ya mentioned that we had a meeting with Sony Michel up the board, no? 😉

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yeah because it was Dolphins news.

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        Exactly! So at least it would seem we may be looking to upgrade/add competition to our stable of RBs.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Yeah I know. All I said is I’m not really concerned about it.

        If I was to break down our RBs in groups right now it would look like this.
        1a. Edmonds
        1b. Mostert
        2a. Gaskin
        2b. Ahmed
        3a. Doaks
        3b. White

      • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

        I agree with your breakdown… and I do see the possibility of being able to upgrade/add competition via a vet.

  97. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Krishna,
    So what if I don’t like the answer. Just because you acquiesce and are willing to forego any rights as a father doesn’t mean I have to. Is this fucking place even capable of having a nuanced and respectful discussion about any fucking topic anymore? Is everything black and white with no room for discourse or disagreement? My comment was not about the right to choose. It was about a father’s rights in the process. Is it even conceivable to you that they may be different things? Or that there may be things that could be implemented to protect a father’s rights in some form or fashion without taking away a woman’s right to choose? I truly don’t know why the fuck I bother trying to have an intelligent conversation here anymore. And some folks around here rip politicians for being extremists. Look in the fucking mirror.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Randy, sometimes when blogging or discussing stuff on social media there can be a lot of disconnect. I always find the problem is how people reply to each other. It’s a human thing. 😉

      That said, I’m not sure what can be implemented to protect a father’s rights in some form or fashion without taking away a woman’s right to choose? To protect what?

      I’d guess most unwanted pregnancies are due to men and women not being in loving relationships or marriages. Most of them are likely mistakes due to fucking and not being careful in those situations.

    • herdfan's avatar herdfan says:

      For my part, I thought it was a discussion. We didn’t agree but that’s ok. We have different perspectives.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Randy, I respect you, so let’s start there.

      Acquiesce? Lol….me?

      You are not a father…you are a sperm donor, right place, wrong time…lol.

      Respectfully, you have no rights as a sperm donor.

      There’s nothing nuanced or unintelligent about this.

      Unless you’ve pre-planned the impregnation and consensual, I don’t get what your “fatherly” rights are or what you think they should be.

      I think that’s a valid, intelligent question that for some reason is contentious.

      You have no fatherly rights to dump and go….unless it was pre-planned.

  98. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    So a topic on Twitter came up today: favorite cartoon music of all time. Wondering what some of y’all might say?

    THIS is one of my favs, but this is a cover song… and it ROCKS better than the original!!! Can ya tell I was born in the 70s, but grew up in the 80s?!!

  99. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Tim,
    I will just say that there are things that could be done to support a father’s rights in this area short of taking away a woman’s right to choose….and I believe we should hold men accountable for fathering a child. Once a child is conceived a woman can choose not to become a parent. Men do not have that same option. But, along with holding men accountable I think it’s fair to do everything we can to support and respect their rights as well. The comments here show that even that is a joke.
    ***
    Our society marginalizes men when it comes to being fathers or parents and then we wonder why young men don’t live up to their responsibilities. Why should they? They’re told they don’t matter to begin with. I see it every day in my work, and the whole thing just makes me sad. I’ve helped many young men go through these scenarios, and they never work out well for the young men. In fact, they are treated like criminals…or worse….that they simply don’t matter when they try even a little bit to exert their rights as a father. The system gives them a big FU until it comes time to pay child support…then it’s about holding them responsible.
    ***
    And with that…I’ll call it a day, and we can go back to arguing about our OL.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      We’re on RB depth and power backs now. 😉

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Like I said before — the pre-birth period is tough as tough can be. Once the kid is born though most states don’t distinguish btwn mother and father. One of my best buddies has full parental custody of his kid born out of wedlock. Means the Mom is the one who gets every other weekend and holiday.

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      Well, you changed the topic…you claimed fatherly rights pre-birth. You have none unless it was planned….

      So, it is you who are changing the topic and….actually playing a victim. Never thought that of you.

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