Stephen Ross Fallout – Training Camp Stuff

I’ve never hated Stephen Ross like so many people in South Florida do. I think most of the people who hate him, hate him for the wrong reasons. They hate him because he’s a New York guy first and foremost. Cracks me up how much people from Florida hated him for that reason from the get-go. How many people who live in Florida are actually Florida natives? Florida is littered with transplants, littered! If he came from South Carolina he’d have been fine. I always saw Ross as a guy who just wants to win, and would do anything, even things outside the rules to win. I think a lot of rich, billionaires feel that way, they’ve been doing that their whole lives. On the other hand, the NFL has 32 billionaires all in the same boat, and there are rules that have to be followed or there are consequences for breaking those rules. Well, now as Dolphins fans, we have to eat the shit sandwich of losing one of our TWO 1st round picks in next year’s draft, and then another 3rd round pick in 2024. It sucks, it definitely does, but do I hate Stephen Ross? He’s done everything he could to make Hard Rock Stadium a great place to come for Dolphins fans. While we haven’t won a Superbowl or been perennial playoff contenders, no other Dolphins Owner in the last 30 years did that either! So I still don’t hate Stephen Ross, but I wouldn’t hate if he sold the team either. Then you have to worry about who takes over.

To be clear, I’m not defending Ross. I hate what he did tampering with Tom Brady of all people. I tell you with all honesty I could not watch Tom Brady play on the Miami Dolphins. Whatever we would possibly accomplish with Tom Brady as QB would only be another feather in the cap of Tom Brady and our team would be on Brady’s coattails, just as the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were. He went to a very talented Bucs team, and then he recruited other NFL talent (Sound like the NBA anyone?) to put them over the top. The Bucs that previous season were 7-9, but their QB Jameis Winston turned the ball over a historically high 45 times, 33 interceptions and 12 fumbles. He also threw for over 5000 yards and 30 TD’s because that team had talent. Brady didn’t go to the Detroit Lions and win the Super Bowl, no, he went to a team on the cusp and then brought in a few extra great players to get them over the top. If having Tom Brady, Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Brown, and Leonard Fournette on your team all due to Brady recruiting, and winning the Super Bowl with those guys make you feel good, so be it. It would do nothing for me and the entire season would be tainted and unwatchable for me.

So, on to training camp. It’s been a competitive camp so far, but it’s hard to glean important information until they get the pads and helmets on, which just recently happened, and even then, it’s not that easy. Guys that are training camp stars sometimes get cut, and sometimes guys don’t get exposed or ball out until the real games start. Undrafted WR Braylon Sanders is getting a lot of hype right now, but who knows if this guy even makes the roster. 4th RD pick Erik Ezukanma is also getting positive hype, and is a more likely candidate to make the roster. Then again, undrafted WR Wes Welker is the WR Coach now in Miami, so maybe I’m off on that. There’s also a lot of hype going to TE Durham Smythe. Plenty of talk that he will be getting more reps. Well, he’s the better blocker, that much is clear, and he’s a decent receiver as well. Doesn’t matter who starts, but if you think Durham Smythe is going to get more targets than TE Mike Gesicki, you’re crazy. My hope is that Gesicki becomes a more balanced NFL TE under McD, but if not, he’s clearly the better receiving TE with speed, agility, the ability to high point the football and catch anything near him, and of course make a contested catch.

It’s impossible to gauge the running backs right now so we’ll have to wait some for that to develop. It seems Raheem Mostert is healthy and feeling good, so that’s a plus. LT Austin Jackson is having a strong camp so far, but it’s too early to get real excited. Let’s hope the injury bug stays away, it has so far, and that’s one of the most important things. Get through training camp healthy, and get ready for the season. There’s always feel good stories in training camp, but often times they don’t amount to much. One of them is Noah Igbinoghene, and how this may finally be his year. That would be great, just don’t bet on it. Tua is throwing the ball well, his best passes are touch passes because he doesn’t throw frozen ropes like Justin Herbert. If he’s going to do that, it’s going to be within 20 yards, he doesn’t have elite arm strength, he has elite accuracy with average NFL strength. He makes good decisions most times, has a quick release, and sees the defense well. I think he’s going to have a great year, can’t wait to see it!

#stangerstrong

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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945 Responses to Stephen Ross Fallout – Training Camp Stuff

  1. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    YAY

  2. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    We should do hurry up more often. Tua looked good whenever we have in the past.

  3. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    LOL

  4. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    RRRRRRRRR

  5. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    It’s looking like he is what we thought he was

    #BUST

  6. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    LOSING

  7. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Travis, with his sunshine and lollypops:

    This is not what most of the tweets indicated in real time, but OK, Great!

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      It’s times like these I wish Wingfield wasn’t a shill. I’d like to believe what he’s writing, but it’s like homefield advantage in odds making – he gives us an automatic 3 points.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Maybe, but you’re saying this based off of what the Bucs reporters are lollypopping too, so who knows

  8. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Fingers crossed this shit doesn’t happen to us.

    This is their backup center….

  9. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Practice is over.

  10. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Of all the things I’m looking forward to in PSG1, I think I’m most excited to see EaZy E in action. By all accounts, he is going to be one of the steals of the draft.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      It’s what I saw in practice, several others catching the ball looked good too, but there was something about his YAC, that was different, he’s not going down like Parker

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        The big steal was supposed to be Cedrick Wilson, but I’ve rarely seen him mentioned, whereas Ezukanma is showing up in reports everyday. Can’t wait!

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        Wilson made some plays, he’ll be a good #3, don’t worry about him

  11. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Thanks for the updates, Rock.

  12. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Armando Salguero
    @ArmandoSalguero
    ·
    8m
    Hainsey had cramps. He’s fine.

  13. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Good to see Deiter is back at practice. Fingers crossed Jones is back soon. Our defense is relies on our outside CBs locking down man coverage on a high percentage of plays, and Jones is a big part of that.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Reports are that Iggy was beaten like a drum today, not surprised, I expect this to be his last season with us- if he even makes it out of camp.

      Keion Crossen is playing well though, so maybe he can be what we hoped for from Iggy.

  14. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    #BUST

    I hope we don’t need to count on him this season!

  15. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    Thanx Rock

  16. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Where is everyone staying for the fest this year? I am thinking about doing a “staycation” and taking a couple of days off of work and getting a hotel room Sat / Sun nights in the Hollywood area.

    (The fest is the Vikings game right? God forbid I make the wrong reservation! LOL)

  17. manitobafinfan's avatar manitobafinfan says:

    You are correct Vikings game , most are on the Broadwalk, my crew of 4 is at La Quinta by Sheridan St (short walk to D&B)

  18. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    ▪ Igbinoghene was targeted and gave up several completions in team drills. He was also beat multiple times in 1-on-1 drills, ceding completions to wide receiver Julio Jones and Jaelon Darden.

    I hope if #9 ever gets on the field for us this season that opposing QB’s mistake #8 for #9 and try to attack him, instead of #9…..

  19. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Rock – that would be cool. Lots of places in Hollywood on or near the broadwalk

  20. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Well Margaritaville wants over $450 a night now for the fest weekend, so I won’t be staying there!

  21. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Alain the Canadian

  22. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    For the better part of two hours at the AdventHealth Training Center Wednesday morning, the Dolphins offense and defense worked on adjacent fields, going head-to-head with the opposing units of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Dolphins’ 11th training camp practice — and first of a pair with the Buccaneers ahead of their preseason opener Saturday — featured a promising effort from the defense and an efficient day from quarterback Tua Tagovailoa.

    Tagovailoa got plenty of work in 1-on-1, 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 drills against a defense that finished ninth in Football Outsiders’ efficiency ranking last season. The following is a breakdown of his 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 work:

    ▪ In his first 7-on-7 action, Tagovailoa went unofficially 3 for 4 with short completions to tight end Durham Smythe, wide receiver Jaylen Waddle and running back Raheem Mostert. His sole incompletion was his first attempt, a pass to tight end Mike Gesicki. Tagovailoa was also forced to hold the ball on a coverage sack.

    ▪ In his first 11-on-11 work, Tagovailoa completed a pair of passes to Waddle and wide receiver Tyreek Hill. In the following 11-on-11 drill, Tagovailoa, throwing to his right and against his body, completed his only attempt, an intermediate pass to Hill along the sideline.

    ▪ In the next 11-on-11 drill, Tagovailoa was 3 for 3 with intermediate completions to Hill, rookie wide receiver Erik Ezukanma and wide receiver Cedrick Wilson Jr.

    ▪ In 11-on-11 work that featured the offense driving the length of the field instead of staying at one spot like previous sessions, Tagovailoa was 4 for 6 with a pair of completions to fullback Alec Ingold and passes to Wilson and Waddle. Ingold dropped Tagovailoa’s first attempt in the flat and Tagovailoa’s final attempt to Gesicki was slightly late, but linebacker Lavonte David made a nice play on the ball to deflect the pass, too.

    ▪ In Tagovailoa’s final team drill, 11-on-11 work that simulated a two-minute drill, he was 5 for 6 with a pair of completions to Chase Edmonds and Hill and another to Waddle. His sole incompletion was on his second attempt, a pass to Waddle. However, a short run was stuffed on third down and the game clock expired before the Dolphins could get their kicking unit set on the field.

    ▪ Cornerback Keion Crossen laid out to deflect a seam pass from Buccaneers quarterback Blaine Gabbert that was intended for wide receiver Vyncint Smith. Crossen got his hands on the ball multiple times Wednesday.

    ▪ On a pass from Tagovailoa that was slightly behind Wilson, the veteran receiver made an acrobatic effort to reach back and secure the pass over the middle of the field between defenders.

    ▪ On the two-minute drill for the Dolphins defense, Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady unofficially completed 5 of 8 passes. Four of the passes were short, but he completed a long pass along the sideline with cornerback Noah Igbinoghene in coverage. The completion set up a made field goal for Tampa. Defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah batted a Brady pass and registered a sack on the drive.

    ▪ For most of the morning, the Dolphins defense limited runs by the Buccaneers offense and kept most passes in front of them in team drills. However, Tampa Bay practiced without wide receivers Chris Godwin and Mike Evans, who remained sidelined with injuries.

    ▪ Igbinoghene was targeted and gave up several completions in team drills. He was also beat multiple times in 1-on-1 drills, ceding completions to wide receiver Julio Jones and Jaelon Darden.

    ▪ On Tagovailoa’s first pass of 1-on-1 drills, he targeted Hill on a deep pass but cornerback Carlton Davis III broke up the attempt.

    ▪ Undrafted rookie wide receiver Braylon Sanders beat cornerback Zyon McCollum on a deep route in 1-on-1s, and Ezukanma later got behind cornerback Don Gardner to bring in a long pass from quarterback Teddy Bridgewater.

    ▪ Bridgewater threw a pair of interceptions in team drills. The first came in 7-on-7 action; Davis undercut a pass that was behind wide receiver Preston Williams. Bridgewater was later picked off by linebacker Devin White on a tipped pass.

    ▪ The Dolphins running offense failed to get much traction against a talented Tampa Bay defensive front. In one 11-on-11 session, Edmonds and Mostert were stopped early for short gains.

    ▪ There were a few dustups between the teams but nothing that escalated dramatically. Defensive line Christian Wilkins stuffed running back Leonard Fournette on a short carry, but Fournette took exception to something and took a swipe at Wilkins. It was quickly broken up.

    ▪ Buccaneers players were later upset about a pair of plays involving Brandon Jones, in which the third-year safety made more contact on an offensive player than the Tampa side appreciated. On both occasions, players were quickly separated.

    AVAILABILITY REPORT
    ▪ Multiple players returned to practice, including offensive lineman Michael Deiter (foot), safety Clayton Fejedelem (undisclosed) and cornerback Elijah Campbell (illness).

    ▪ Defensive back Sheldrick Redwine (undisclosed) and fullback John Lovett (undisclosed) were spotted at practice and wearing their jerseys but not pads.

    ▪ Punter Thomas Morstead (undisclosed) returned to practice but was limited. ▪ Ingold remained in a non-contact jersey.

    ▪ Cornerback Byron Jones (Achilles) remains on the physically-unable-to-perform list.

    ▪ Undrafted rookie Kader Kohou sustained an apparent injury in team drills and was later seen working with trainers.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article264265366.html#storylink=cpy

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      “Igbinoghene was targeted and gave up several completions in team drills. He was also beat multiple times in 1-on-1 drills” — Iggy can run fast, looks great in pics but does he have game? Mainly just talking ball skills and awareness.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        I know he was raw and unpolished when we drafted him, but I’m thinking he falls into the category of ‘didn’t bite as a pup’. Wondering if he just lacks instinct at the position because he appears to have the physical capability.

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        He doesn’t get blown out on routes and generally keeps nice, close position on the receiver. Then ball is in the air and nothing else happens.

  23. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    – Speaking of Tryon-Shoyinka, maybe the coolest play of practice occurred when fullback Alec Ingold put him down on a running play and afterward gave a look to McDaniel standing way behind the play, with McDaniel pointing in his direction as a signal of a job well done.

  24. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “Hill’s a different kind of receiver all-around. He brings something to the game that no other receiver does, so just to be able to go up against him in practice, especially early on in camp just helps you fine-tune your skills and your technique. He was really good today. I’m excited to go back up against him tomorrow, him and Waddle. They’re just two fast, twitchy guys that you just gotta love and embrace going against them because there’s no other receivers in the league that can do what they do.”

    — Buccaneers cornerback Carlton Davis

  25. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Teacher has inappropriate sexual relationship with a 13 Y/O student, including actual sex, and only gets 60 days. Unreal

  26. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    in the 2-minute drill, Brady was held to 2 for 7.

    • bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

      It said in the post by Cav that Brady was 5 for 8 in the 2 minute drill. Which one is accurate?

      • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

        I can’t find my source anymore, but it was a reply in a Twitter thread to one of these Omar quotes, so maybe it was just a fan observing, and he miscounted or exaggerated, so we can feel free to discard mine in favor of the one Cav quoted.

  27. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    At one point, in 11 on 11s
    Brady was sacked 3x in a row, 2 x Sieler and 1 by Ogbah.

  28. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    CavalierKong says:
    August 10, 2022 at 3:21 pm
    I know he was raw and unpolished when we drafted him, but I’m thinking he falls into the category of ‘didn’t bite as a pup’. Wondering if he just lacks instinct at the position because he appears to have the physical capability.
    ——————-
    If a DB ‘bites as pup’, he’s generally going to be a very good-great DB in the future. But again, generally speaking, it takes 3-4 years for a DB to become fully developed in the NFL… and he was drafted at 20 years old.

    All I can say for Iggy is that his time to make himself or break himself is drawing nearer… and there is no guarantee that the light will eventually come on. If his development has stagnated as opposed to continual growth from day 1, this could be his last year with us.

    It took Jason Allen several years to get it together, but then he was also moved from Safety to CB to Safety to CB to Safety to CB to Safety to CB… Iggy cannot claim the same as he’s been strictly trained as a CB.

    I’m really rooting for Iggy!

  29. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    PRACTICE TOP PERFORMERS
    — Hey, here’s a surprise, Tyreek Hill again was a dominant player in practice. As we’ve seen in the practices in Miami, the dude is very, very hard to cover. He ended up with five catches in team drills on six targets, with the one incompletion coming on a pass breakup. There were no bombs on this day, just Hill consistently getting open for easy completions.

    — The practice ended with the Buccaneers on offense for a two-minute drill and Ogbah was a major presence there, even though the drill didn’t end well for Miami. Ogbah batted down a pass at the line of scrimmage on one play — now, there’s something new!!! — before coming back a few plays later and getting around the edge to get to Tom Brady. Of course, Ogbah stopped as he got to Brady and the play continued, but that looked like a sack in a game situation.

    — Quarterback Tua Tagovailoa was very efficient running the offense and taking what the defense was giving him. By our calculations, he completed 14 of 19 passes in team periods and did some nice work in the two-minute drill to get the Dolphins in field goal position (even though that ended poorly). There were no highlight bombs like we’ve seen at times in practice, but Tagovailoa was on target on most of his throws.

    QB WATCH
    Because it’s training camp, we need to talk about the quarterback performances every practice.

    — Teddy Bridgewater threw the only two interceptions by Dolphins quarterbacks, one in a 7-on-7 drill when Miami native Carlton Davis undercut a slant by Preston Williams and the other when Devin White picked him in an 11-on-11 period on a pass that was tipped. He was 7-for-9 in team periods, but the two misfires were bad — there was the interception, and then he underthrew Trent Sherfield after he got wide open behind the Tampa Bay secondary. There were no throws that stood out.

    — Rookie Skylar Thompson just flat-out didn’t get much of a chance on this day. He was on the field for only one set of team drills and handed off twice. His only pass attempt was completed to Sherfield for a 10-yard gain.

    OTHER PRACTICE OBSERVATIONS
    — Since we mentioned it already, let’s break down the final two-minute drill that had each team taking a turn to move downfield for a field goal. After Tua completed four passes to get the Dolphins into position, Mike McDaniel called a running play up the middle on third down, which meant a hurry-up situation to get the field goal unit onto the field as time was running down. As it turned out, time expired with Liam Eichenberg still running off the field, so the Dolphins never got to try a field goal. Tampa Bay then got its turn and Brady completed five passes, the last one a deep comeback to Deven Thompkins against Noah Igbinoghene and the Bucs kicked a field goal.

    — The play was the capper for what, by all accounts, was a very rough day for Igbinoghene, who early on was beaten deep in a 1-on-1 drill.

    — There weren’t any brawls or fights during practice, but Christian Wilkins and Leonard Fournette got up close and personal on a couple of occasions, and safety Brandon Jones was starting to get under the skin of Tampa Bay offensive players in that two-minute drill. Jones was getting a bit physical for a practice for the Bucs’ taste, while their problem with Wilkins had to do with his penchant for yapping (yeah, shocking, right?).

    — Quick highlights from the 1-on-1 drills included a deep completion from Bridgewater to Erik Ezukanma; Preston Williams making a nice adjustment on a pass from Bridgewater; running back Gerrid Doaks standing up a Tampa Bay player on a back-vs.-backer pass protection drill; DB Quincy Wilson with a nice pass breakup against TE Cade Otton; linebacker Sam Eguavoen dropped what should have been an interception; rookie linebacker Channing Tindall was badly beaten downfield; rookie tight end Tanner Conner beat Pro Bowl linebacker Devin White with a great move out-and-up move. As a recurring disclaimer, the 1-on-1 coverage drills heavily favor the receiver, who have the width of the field with which to work and no pass rush to help the defensive player.

    — Interesting that Connor Williams called harsh in his media session a question about how he can go about cleaning up shotgun snaps that don’t necessarily go over the head of the quarterback but still are higher than desired. There were two of those Wednesday after he had a clean practice in that department Sunday.

    — Jason Sanders went 8-for-8 on field goal attempts.

    — Robert Hunt had a good battle with Bucs defensive lineman William Gholston in 1-on-1 pass-blocking drills with each winning a rep.

    — Watching Tom Brady on the far field, one thing that jumps out is how quickly the ball comes out of his hand on most snaps.

    — Tight end Hunter Long looked like he was holding on an outside running play and the Dolphins were flagged for another holding later on (though unclear who the culprit was on the second one).

    — Chase Edmonds was yanked down by the facemask — and hard — by Joe Tryon-Shoyinka on an outside running play, with three or four flags flying at the point of the very obvious infraction. Luckily, Edmonds was not hurt.

    — Rookie free agent CB Kader Kohou sustained what appeared to be a minor injury. He was observed talking with trainers and then testing out his movement before walking with a bit of a limp.

    — Speaking of Tryon-Shoyinka, maybe the coolest play of practice occurred when fullback Alec Ingold put him down on a running play and afterward gave a look to McDaniel standing way behind the play, with McDaniel pointing in his direction as a signal of a job well done.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/dolphins/news/miami-dolphins-tampa-bay-buccaneers-first-joint-practice-observations

    ***Kong note: Poupart also reported 5 completions for Brady in the two minute drill and did mention it was hard to keep track of the action on all 3 fields which may account for the inconsistencies being reported****

  30. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Originally, Ingold committed to Northern Illinois to play quarterback, but later accepted a scholarship from Wisconsin as an undecided athlete.[1] He was named the Associated Press Wisconsin Player of the Year and the Gatorade Wisconsin Player of the Year his senior year at Bay Port High School in Green Bay as a dual-threat quarterback.[2] Wikipedia

    • mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

      Most interesting. Northern Illinois has produced some very intriguing talent over the last decade and some change. Even if Ingold didn’t ultimately go to NIU, they had their eyes on him. Very telling to me.

  31. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Interesting stat from Joe Schad:

    “First 8 Dolphins games of 2021: 29 points per game allowed.
    Final 9 Dolphins games of 2021: 16 points per game allowed.”

  32. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I truly believe that Ingold is a very important addition that has flown completely under the national radar. shhhh

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      Except me, I have high hopes for Ingold and I anticipate him getting a lot of snaps, he can contribute a lot in both passing game and running game. Blocking, lead blocking, pass blocking, pass routes and finishes plays, you might see him 30 yards down field on a big play putting a hit on somebody.
      He’s a huge key, in my opinion, to our offense becoming explosive 💥

    • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

      You are correct about him flying under the radar – until all of highlights are littered with him making plays

  33. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    My Captains picks

    Wilkins
    Holland
    Tua
    Armstead

  34. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    🐛🐛🐛🐛🐛🐛.

    Son ^^^ emoji for Wilkins the worm

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      Jeez just leave the kid alone.
      Do you remember when you were just turned 24?
      Man, I was barely able to keep from hitting the snooze button,
      so I could get a shower before the commute.
      Tua had zero to do with some old rich businessman trying to make back room contract deals.
      Quit picking on the young man.

  35. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    Don’t think this is shade. Sounds like respec….awesome to see our potential.

    Bucs CB Carlton Davis pays respect to Tyreek Hill, Jaylen Waddle

  36. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Go Dolphins
    🐬✌️🐆🐧🦄🥇🐛⛄️✖️👨‍🍳🪳

    The metal is InGold
    Worm is Wilkins
    Baker
    Roach is iggy

  37. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    ✌️💥

  38. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Sorry but I missed why we call Preston the unicorn.

  39. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    I had a 10 OZ prime rib recently. Med-rare, au jus with creamy horseradish sauce on the side. Was awesome. You can get steaks everywhere, but why is prime rib hard to find these days?

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      I love prime rib just as you describe, and a good one is hard to find.
      Lately, I’ve had much more success ordering filet mignon.
      I love that cut.

  40. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    “The hype is real when it comes to the six-time Pro Bowler’s impact on Miami’s offense. Hill’s speed and explosiveness will not only lead to chunk plays for No. 10 himself, but they’ll set up his teammates for big gains against overextended defenses. As one of the most feared big-play threats in the league, Hill’s mere presence changes how opposing defenses will approach the Dolphins. With Jaylen Waddle opposite Hill and tight end Mike Gesicki on the inside, this is a track team of a receiving corps that’ll keep defensive coordinators up late into the night.”

    — Bucky Brooks on Tyreek.

  41. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    I guess some think it’s spam

  42. Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

    I love it!

  43. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    These reports are not just hype crap.
    The things the DL is doing for example.
    Passes batted down and TFLs are very disruptive for an offense to deal with,
    and you can’t fake those or overlook them, just cause it’s a practice.
    Brady gets it out so fast it’s really hard to sack him, but we had numerous “fly-bys” and coming from all 4 of our pass rushers: Ogbah, Sieler, Wilkins, and Phillips. (Where was Melvin Ingram?)

    • Krishna's avatar Krishna says:

      3 sacks in a row in 11 on 11 by our D…

      Also, 2 minute drill was on iggy…otherwise was shut down…TB is too smart and naturally finds the wink link in the D…he’s done it his entire career

  44. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    It is also impossible to overlook what Ezukanma has done.
    This guy’s the real thing.
    And not a one-trick pony either.

  45. mf13ss's avatar mf13ss says:

    Roger Goodell Calls Deshaun Watson A Predator, Calls For Full Season Suspension | Pat McAfee Reacts

  46. sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

    Preston is a unicorn because he’s rarely seen, but magic when he is visible.

  47. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    Krishna, Preston Williams has gone by the Unicorn since he went undrafted, mostly driven by himself.

  48. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    maybe

  49. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    At least Williams didn’t start going by Unicorn after supergluing a giant dildo to his forehead; that would be a little too on the nose…

  50. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Sounds like both teams got some good work in.

  51. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I didn’t see any injury reports so that’s good.

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Thought the same thing when I saw a couple of other teams’ injury reports today. We’ve avoided big injuries so far. 🤞 🤞

  52. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    It seems that Iggy falls for every WR stop and go and head fake and double move and crossover step, everything in the WR repertoire costs Ig a step as he is fooled.
    As someone said, he’s so athletic that he is still able to hang close, but then he has zero ball skills.
    The passes come safely right into the WR’s hands. Ig rarely tips a ball away or rakes it out of a guy’s hands at the point of catch.
    And this is after several years of NFL coaching.
    I can’t see wasting a 53 spot on a guy who is that much of a liability.
    Give Crossen Ig’s spot.

  53. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I initially thought we should go after Roquan Smith, a guy I really liked in the draft, but we’d have to trade a really high pick for him and then pay him big $ for a year and then sign him to an extension, and he says he’s looking to be the highest paid LB in the league.
    We’ve got a lot of our own guys to pay soon who play at more impactful position.
    I’d rather develop Tindall on the cheap and keep the highly motivated 3 MLB we have (Roberts, Riley, Eguavoen) who all together are cheaper than one Roquan.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Baker plays inside a lot too.

      • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

        no yeah but he’s under contract and not part of the problem or the solution.
        ppl think putting Roquan next to Baker would fix us at LB,
        and it might,
        but at what cost?
        Paying Ro what he wants would preclude re signing Wilkins,
        and I would much rather do that,
        and he plays a much more critical position,
        especially in our amoeba D with lots of dime pkgs.

  54. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I don’t want to death kiss Ezukanma with the Deebo label, and we don’t need an exact Deebo anyway, WRs are too fragile to play RB half the time, and teams had started to figure out how to stop the Deebo prime 5 plays.
    But wow Ezukanma has a very intriguing skill set that’s sort of between a Devante Parker 50/50 guru and a Deebo secret weapon.
    I totally trust McDaniel to be capable of drawing up some Deebo 2.0 plays nobody’s ever seen and some back shoulder, high point stuff for Ezukanma to make him the best WR4 in the league.

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      Plus the 49ers needed Deebo as a WR1A at least. We don’t need Ezukanma to be WR1 or WR2 or even 3. He can come off the bench and let it all hang out and give us 2 – 3 splash plays a game even if he has to sit out to recover from some hard hits across the middle by some pissed-off LB.

  55. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    3 days!

  56. randydolfan1947's avatar randydolfan1947 says:

    WENT TO SEE the team surgeon for the Tampa Bay Lightning today regarding my tests and the future course of treatment for my badly injured left shoulder. The news wasn’t good.

    THERE’S massive damage to my rotator cuff. Standard shoulder surgery is not an option. And the physical therapy did not improve the situation at all. In fact, I may be a bit worse off than I was a few weeks ago when the therapy sessions began.

    So the doctor told me he’ll need to do an operation called Reverse Shoulder Surgery. It involves drilling down the two bones making up my shoulder joint capsule. A piece of steel will be added to each bone as will some kind of cushioning device. Its a pretty lengthy procedure. But it also has a high success rate. Any way, I’ll wear a sling for the first 6-8 weeks after surgery. Then there will be about two months of rehab therapy. By next February or March I should be back to my old grouchy self cussing yet another so-so (or WORSE) Dolphins’ football season.

    Misery deserves company, eh??

    Meanwhile, in a truly sick coincidence, Mrs. OD may also need surgery on one of her shoulders before Thanksgiving. We should know within the next couple of weeks. SHEESH!!!
    ———————————
    Back to the Dolphins. For the entire length of Ross’s ownership, this regime has relied on head coaches who have never won a playoff game and who have a LOSING RECORD as a head coach in the NFL (when you include their years in Miami ). I would have thought by now that it might dawn on Little Stevie Blunder to try a head coach who has has SUCCESS as a head coach in the NFL. — But nooo-o-o-o, Stevie CAN’T or WON’T do that. I’m sure older, more experienced, coaches cost more to hire than does your average young coach, especially if the older coach has had playoff success in the NFL. It is believed that Both Bill Cowher and Brian Billick (both former Super Bowl winning head coaches) at one time took a look at the vacant Miami head coaching job. Billick, instead of being offered the job, was brought in for a dressing-down by Ross who blamed Billick for losing to the Dolphins in Huizenga’s last full year of owning the team. Ross complained to Billick ‘that one loss cost me about one million dollars when Huizenga and I agreed upon the selling price
    of the team!” That was chump change THEN to an NFL owner and it’s chump change now!. Anyway, to the best of my knowledge Bill Cowher was never offered the Miami job, perhaps because he wasn’t going to leave his cushy job as an NFL commentator to work for someone like Steve Ross. In retrospect, Cowher made the right choice. His legacy certainly would not have been enhanced by a few mediocre years working for Ross. In fact, NO COACHES LEGACY has been enhanced by the years they’ve spent working for Ross!!!
    —————————
    NOW I RETURN to the never ending problems with Miami’s offensive line. Common sense says Miami’s O-Line was under talented last season. And the season before. And the season before that! I thought that during the last off season Miami would use at least 2 high draft choices on the O-Line and bring in at least 2-3 new veteran linemen who we could reasonably expect to occupy 2 more starting positions. Well, our “Haul of quality O-Linemen” came nowhere near to what most of us were hoping.

    I SMELL MIAMI’s Front Office in these moves (or “non-moves” if you prefer). The FO boys seem to believe the O-Line brought in the last two years was plenty good enough. They say the coaching staff did a poor job of “Coaching them Up” despite this abundance of talent. They wanted Ross to take the cheaper strategy and bring in new coaches to coach ’em up and we’ll be just fine. Add the couple of new names added to Miami’s roster on the O-Line and “We’ll be OK in the O-Line” according to this viewpoint.

    I DON’T BELIEVE IT!! SHOW-W-W ME-E-E!!!!!
    Well the time for the showing starts on the 13th in a preseason game against the Bucs. Will Ross’s cheaper approach work against the rest of the NFL?? It hasn’t worked in the prior 13 years. But, maybe, this year is different.

    I don’t yet have a specific W-L prediction for Miami in the upcoming season. But I will be shocked if this year’s version of the O-Line is much better than last seasons. That means NOT enough time to throw the deep patterns we’d all like to see. And not enough blocking for our running backs to break loose on a large number of long touchdown runs.

    MORE OF THE SAME is what I expect. So do NOT rush to buy your home playoff game tickets this year because there WON’T BE ANY HOME PLAYOFF GAMES in Miami Gardens this season.

    My prediction made many years ago that Miami will never win a playoff game AS LONG AS STEVE ROSS OWNS THE DOLPHINS still stands. His stupid recent attempts to violate NFL rules and acquire Tom Brady while he was still the property of Tampa Bay will stand as his ultimate achievement in NFL history!

    WHAT A LEGACY!!!

  57. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    Not Fins (Lions) but worth a watch

  58. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    Can’t remember this being posted but a good delve into the Xs and Os and how it might pertain to our new O

    https://readoptional.substack.com/p/the-mcdaniel-conundrum

    • naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

      wow UK thanks,
      that is a great dissection of our offensive situation.
      This is very concerning as it is very convincing about what Tua’s detractors are seeing that make them think he isn’t good enough.
      … …
      But it is also very educational for me to read all these modern play names and innovative design ramifications.
      … …
      All I can hope is that McDaniel’s disguises mesh with Hill’s and Waddle’s speed to give Tua a frequent chance to be deadly accurate.
      Oh and hoping the FB can help the OL give Tua one more second to read the field.
      … …
      Defenders like to see ball hit ball.
      If they can’t find the ball, they lose a step and get burned in front of the fans,
      causing them to overreact the next time,
      and if that doesn’t work because the offensive guy just sprints past them and goes deep, that just makes it worse.
      We hope.

      • ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

        I’m only half way through Naples, but likewise! The thing is, not only does Tua have to adapt, but the OL has to come good and everyone has to do their job. We have mis-match capabilities galore in this offence, but (stating the bleeding obvious) the play has to be executed as drawn up and there are 11 guys on the other side of the ball trying to break it up.

        The way I always think of it in my head, is like this (and these numbers are completely arbitrary). Each player has a range – some might be 5-10/10 (some on the OL), some might be 8-10/10 (X, Ogbah, Seiler, Cheetah) etc, -> you give each player a score on the night based on how well they did the job and >100 wins every game. Say 95-100 wins most, sub 90 and it’s anyone’s call. We had lots of team performances last year where we didn’t have enough team performances to get us over the line. I suppose another much more succinct way of saying this is a team’s only as strong as it’s weakest link.

        Not to even mention how coaching and their decisions affect the outcome too. Bottom line is to win a game, especially in the play-offs, a lot of things have to be done right consistently. Which is why we haven’t won a play-off game for f a r t o o l o n g

  59. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    Mike – shot you a mail in case you no longer have my e-mail addy to forward the Big Ape’s details to me. Cheers

  60. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    UK – That’s a fantastic article!!! Lots of information to digest in there. That person seems to really understand the game to nth degree.

  61. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    The fuck that guy is talking about. Never heard ANYONE say this

    Listen to any analyst discuss Tua Tagovailoa for more than 15 minutes and you will hear a common refrain. The greatest RPO quarterback of all time. The GREATEST RPO quarterback of all time. The greatest RPO quarterback of ALL TIME.

    • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

      Oh, and is initial assumption is spurious. Who said ANYTHING about McDaniel trying to merge the RPO into his offense? Also, Tua hasn’t played is “best football in the league’s most RPO-laden offense.” He’s played his ONLY football there.

      • Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

        Too long didn’t finish

      • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

        He just mentioned the merge as a possibility, but I’m with you it’s far fetched, not likely to happen

        You get these nerdy types, that over-analyze a situation and come up with possibilities, but don’t take into account the reality of it

        We’ll run some RPOs, because Tua can run it well, especially, if it’s just used as a change up, but to think MM is going to use some form of last year’s O as the base is way out there in left field

        The article was well written, but the premise of it wasn’t thought out

  62. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    HC Mike McDaniel Thursday August 11 media availability thread
    8:31 AM · Aug 11, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
    15
    Likes

    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    18m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    “Based on the last couple of practices, I’m encouraged by the idea of not playing (Tua on Saturday).”

    Coach says he’s not finalized any decisions, but he’s been very pleased with how Tua has prepared and practiced.
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    3m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Coach says he’s spent his career pretty evenly split between being in the sideline on game day and in the box upstairs. Says he was in the box until about 2012, then was on the field until 2017 before returning back to the box. Notes Frank Smith as a trusted eye in the sky
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    2m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    I hadn’t met X before I got here but it didn’t take long to see what he means to the rest of the players – Coach on Xavien Howard

    Coach then compared X’s competitive nature to Tyreek
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    9m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    It takes a certain type of person and athlete to have a shot to play center. It was obvious early on that Connor Williams had that type of disposition. Obsessed, confident… words Coach used to describe Williams playing the position
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    7m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    We try not to force any behavior, we try to exploit the defense where they’re most vulnerable. Coach discussing his offensive philosophy
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    14m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Coach says the challenge of these practices is getting a feel for different techniques and approaches. Says he was very encouraged by how his team was prepared for that. Says he’s very happy with how they played for each other
    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    16m
    Replying to
    @WingfieldNFL
    Coach says he would be surprised if Tua DIDNT play at least a little in the preseason. McDaniel continues to reiterate that he’s not going to get ahead of today with decisions.

  63. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I agree with all three of you.
    such as Mike E saying
    “a lot of it was over my head ( at first)”
    I felt that way, too.
    which is kinda shocking for me as a x and o type fan.
    I think if you just drift along with him and read through to the end, you can get the big picture.

  64. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    And UK saying that, bottom line in a McDaniel offense is EVERYBODY must do their job,
    and then things will turn out right.
    But that’s 11 guys winning their block or ball skill,
    and as we all know, some of our guys suck.
    (at least last year in that offense they seemed to)

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      Everyone doing there job doesn’t mean all 11 must win on a play for it to be successful, it just means they have to follow their assignment as designed, you can’t have guys ad libbing, guys jey to the play have to win though

  65. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    so I’m hoping McDaniel’s scheme is designed to make it easier for each guy to do his job,
    which I think it IS designed to do
    by confusing the defense at every level, every position, every play.
    That’s so annoying to a defense and mentally fatiguing,
    so hopefully opponents fade in the 4th.

  66. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Lol, yesterday he got his lunch handed to him, so today he’s going to just watch

    Armando Salguero
    @ArmandoSalguero
    ·
    24s
    Tom Brady not practicing today, excused by team.

  67. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    good point, Steve (fingers crossed)
    in SF tape it seems Shanahan’s plays orphan 3 or 4 defenders on any given play so far away from the point of attack that they are not even a factor.

  68. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    and of course Rock makes 2 good points.
    and the vids they let out from our practices
    do show a bunch of intermediate throws with run after catch yards,
    which would signify Shanahan offense
    instead of the Brady/Bellicheat dink and dunk then hit the big bomb style.
    TB even beat us yesterday by doing that and playing Iggy for a sucker.

  69. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Front 7 could look something like

    LDT Ogbah 40 plays, Ingram 10, Wilkins 10

    NG Davis 30, Wilkins 10, Jenkins 20

    RDT Wilkins 20, Seiler 40

    LOLB Ingram 15, AVG 25

    LILB Baker 40, Tindall 10

    RILB Roberts 20, Tindall 10

    ROLB Phillips 40 AVG 10

    Some others will get some snaps too reducing these numbers, this is just a look at when the best are playing

  70. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    6m
    The buzz you hear among the media about Tyreek Hill is something I’ve never heard in almost 30 years of following this team.

    A Tampa reporter walks by shaking his head just sayin, “wow, 10 is something.”

  71. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    10m
    Every rep from Jaylen Waddle in that period resulted in a catch and the DB just stopping as Waddle finished it running into the end zone. Could not cover him

  72. ukfinfan's avatar ukfinfan says:

    It’s my ball, the nasty Miami D didn’t let me complete enough passes yesterday and I’m going home and not playing today! So there. LMAO

  73. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    The answer to Iggy woes

    Kyle Crabbs
    @GrindingTheTape
    ·
    16m
    Somewhere in western NY,
    @TheJoeMarino
    smiles.
    Quote Tweet
    Big E
    @ian693
    · 16m
    Trill Williams has been having a tremendous training camp!! #FinsUp

  74. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    I loved that clip of Hill while at KC,
    motioning over to a wide slot so he can get a running head start.
    Literally 5 defenders locked in on Hill.
    1 deep Safety had eyes on him,
    2 guys set their feet for where they thought he was going,
    and 2 CBs actually walked up toward the LOS as if in press coverage,
    but as a double team!!

  75. naplesfan2010's avatar naplesfan2010 says:

    Some of the coverage TB did on Hill looked like they were covering a gunner on punts.

  76. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    24m
    Through indys and 1v1s, Tua looks as sharp as we’ve seen him this camp. He just ripped a perimeter throw from the far hash with zip and pristine timing to Trent Sherfield

  77. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    A name I keep hearing Tanner Connor

    Omar Kelly
    @OmarKelly
    ·
    2m
    Skylar Thompson’s first pass of 11-on-11 is a touchdown throw to Tanner Connor, who was wide open along left sideline on a blown coverage. Nobody was catching him. He is deceptively fast.

  78. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    I’m going to be a bit disappointed if we don’t get at least one or two series with Tua at QB this Saturday.

  79. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    PewterReport
    @PewterReport
    ·
    2m
    #Bucs D definitely losing this early 11v11 period vs #Dolphins O – so far.

  80. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Rick Stroud Retweeted
    Joey Knight
    @TBTimes_Bulls
    ·
    11m
    Cheetah with 1-handed snag of Tua pass over middle. Woulda been a TD #Bucs #Dolphins

  81. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    Tua gets the Bucs on another hard count then rips a shot to Gesicki between a trio of defenders for a TD in mid red zone work

  82. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    Spam I guess

  83. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Skylar Thompson’s first pass of 11-on-11 is a touchdown throw to Tanner Connor, who was wide open along left sideline on a blown coverage. Nobody was catching him. He is deceptively fast.
    —————————
    Deceptively fast? I guess because of his size 6’3 230 you don’t expect it or Omar just forgot he ran a 4.37 at his pro day.

    That is freakish fast for that size, btw.

  84. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    Daniel Oyefusi
    @DanielOyefusi
    ·
    2m
    TRAINING CAMP FRACAS🚨 Duke Riley and Luke Goedeke got into it a couple plays in a row. After a short Bucs run, the two locked onto each other in the end zone and had to be separated. Nothing too crazy but def more intensity on Day 2

  85. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    Daniel Oyefusi
    @DanielOyefusi
    ·
    2m
    Lane opens up the middle of the dolphins defense and Gio sneaks through for a big gain and likely TD. One play after Raekwon Davis was slow to get up and walked gingerly off the field.

  86. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    1m
    Tua finds Waddle who pulls it down in some traffic – had to catch it twice but showed the concentration to secure it for 6. I lost count of how many TDs that is for Tua, today. More than 5

  87. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    Daniel Oyefusi
    @DanielOyefusi
    ·
    1m
    Replying to
    @DanielOyefusi
    Davis is back in team drills so no big concern there, it seems.

  88. Rockphin's avatar Rockphin says:

    There is the dustup I was looking for yesterday. (The worm getting in their heads) LOL

  89. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    7m
    Tua has a moving pocket with a man in his face. He has to drop the arm angle and is able to throw it under the armpit of said defender for a completion to Alec Ingold. Tua’s got it all working today

  90. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    3m
    Bucs running the ball a lot today, and with a pretty good amount of success. Brennan Scarlett as seen enough though as he dents the edge and makes the play in the backfield

  91. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    JosinaAnderson
    @JosinaAnderson
    ·
    7m
    Tua is absolutely slinging it out here. #Dolphins offense is firing on all cylinders in this period.

  92. steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

    3x Super Bowl Champion James White announces his retirement from the NFL.

  93. bailbondmike's avatar bailbondmike says:

    Firing on all cylinders?
    ————-
    I thought we couldn’t run the ball??

    • Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

      National reporter. Maybe he didn’t get the hater memo????

      JosinaAnderson
      @JosinaAnderson
      Emmy & NABJ Award, Senior NFL Insider
      @CBSSportsHQ
      , Host: The Crew & Undefined with Josina Anderson. Alum ESPN, Showtime, Fox

  94. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    Joe Schad
    @schadjoe
    Tua Tagovailoa has performed well in two practices vs. the Bucs. Not so much spectacular as consistent and efficient.

  95. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    Travis Wingfield
    @WingfieldNFL
    ·
    3m
    Igbinoghene has a terrific breakup in the end zone to force the Bucs offense off the field in the 2-min period. Good COD to move as Gabbert broke the pocket and squeeze the WR

  96. Wyoming85's avatar Wyoming85 says:

    Music to some’s ears

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