BYE Week – Time for much needed rest and healing

The Dolphins enter their BYE week in excellent shape with a 7-3 record good for 1st in the AFC East. The Bills lost last week to the Minnesota Vikings in OT to fall to 6-3, while the NY Jets had their BYE week and are also 6-3. The New England Patriots were also on their BYE week last week and are last in the AFC East at 5-4. This is a very competitive division, and at least at the moment, my early predictions that the Jets may overtake the Patriots is true at the moment. The Jets and Patriots have a showdown this Sunday in Foxborough at 1PM. This is a huge divisional game, they all are really. If the Jets can beat the Patriots in their house the Jets could move up from the #6 seed and give them a 3-1 division record as well as a 6-3 conference record. It would be better for the Dolphins if the Patriots win but I like the Jets in this matchup.

In Week 12, when we return from our BYE week, we play the Texans at home at 1PM. It’s possible, we can have some familiar names back in the lineup, but as of now, nothing is certain. I would think at a minimum that OL Austin Jackson should be back, but odds are he would just be in the rotation, not starting, RT Brandon Shell has played well and OG Robert Jones looked just fine at LG. DB Byron Jones has not yet been activated off of the IR and there have been no indications that he will be. Still, that remains a possibility. The rest must surely be appreciated by all players but especially LT Terron Armstead who has played brilliantly for us this season despite having a painful toe injury and has been the LT we have missed since, well, Laremy Tunsil. Also, guys like Keion Crossen and Kader Kohou can hopefully get healthier and make that secondary more whole.

The following week we have a difficult game against the SF 49ers in San Francisco. It will be a homecoming for RB’s Raheem Mostert and Jeff Wilson, as well as WR’s Trent Sherfield and River Cracraft. After the Niners we stay on the left coast to play the AFC West LA Chargers. After those 2 road games, we finish up our road trip back on the right coast to play our division rival Buffalo Bills. Our last 3 games of the season feature 2 home games, one against the visiting NFC North Green Bay Packers, then a battle in Foxborough against the Patriots and then back home for the season finale against the NY Jets.

I feel like we need to stay healthy, first and foremost, and if we succeed in doing that, keeping #1 and all of his weapons healthy, we can play with anyone. Our defense is starting to play better, and hopefully the more Chubb practices our defense, the better he is, and he makes everyone else better too. Phillips is already seeing results, and that should continue. LB Brennan Scarlett is now healthy and should be back with the team. This is the time to make our run. Finish strong and we should be near the top in the AFC. If we take care of our division rivals and possibly take down the Bills a second time, and sweep the Pats and split with the Jets, we should be AFC East Champs. That of course won’t be easy but just the fact that I can now type this and not feel like it’s ridiculous at all is quite pleasing to me. We’re a good team, a high flying offense, and Jeff Wilson has added another dimension to our offense. We’re a legitimate rushing threat with Wilson and Mostert. The pressure is off Mostert now, he’s never been a high volume carry guy, so he can stay fresh and give a nice punch when Wilson is out. I know some of you think Byron Jones will never suit up and play in a Dolphins uniform this season, I’m still holding out hope. I have no idea what kind of shape he’ll be in and if he can even help us, but he’s always been a solid cover corner, and what team couldn’t use thew boost of getting a player back of his caliber healthy and fresh near the end of the season? Let’s hope!



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841 Responses to BYE Week – Time for much needed rest and healing

  1. Mike E. says:

    Did you guys see how fast Trent Williams got out and downfield to block and actually wipe out the defender? Unbelievable

  2. The Flying Pig says:

    I wish Gesicki broke tackles and got some YAC like that

  3. The Flying Pig says:

    Me if we lose the Texans this weekend

  4. Ken says:

    This 49ers team may be the best in the NFC

  5. The Flying Pig says:

    This is embarrassing

  6. Ken says:

    The 49s have a lot of weapons on offense

  7. The Flying Pig says:

    Their screens look really awesome

    I really expected to run more screens and reverses than what we have done this season

    No complaining but I thought we would be doing that

  8. pheloniusphish says:

    You throw WR screens and run reverses often when your QB is a caretaker who lacks consistent accuracy, timing, and the ability to make lightening decisions.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Tua loves the middle of the field beyond the 1st down marker. But he can also hit the deep outs. If we start running the ball consistently we can get to the big game.

  9. boulderfinfan says:

    Ken, I agree but I donโ€™t wanna see him going to the Jets.

    • Ken says:

      I agree. I also think it wonโ€™t happen. He is playing too well for SF to let him go

      • Tim Knight says:

        If they traded Jimmy G their season would be over.

      • Ken says:

        Well the question is what do they do next year when Trey Lance is healthy. Right now I think they will be a better team with Jimmy G at QB

      • boulderfinfan says:

        Probably one of the only times in NFL that a teams odds for winning Super Bowl improved when their back qb became the starter. Thatโ€™s what happened when jimmy G started for the niners

  10. Ken says:

    I guess Mitchell is why they felt they could trade Wilson

  11. boulderfinfan says:

    Just put a little bit on the dolphins to win the whole thing. It was $10 gets you 300. Not bad odds ๐Ÿ™‚

  12. boulderfinfan says:

    Tim, this is about next year. Are they gonna keep Jimmy G next year. Big decision. I would keep him.

  13. Rhino says:

    Post of the DECADE …. Ken’s post of tweet : Jets 2.77 inches per play LMMFAO while ROFL … omg … savor that flavor.

  14. Rhino says:

    maybe 49ers find an offseason trade for Jimmy G that somehow gives the Dolphins 2 pro bowlers and 2 first round picks ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜‚

    • boulderfinfan says:

      You know Iโ€™m not scared of the off season. As long as Tua and the receivers are healthy Iโ€™m sure Grier and MM will figure it out. I trust that duo. Hopefully we finish strong this year.

  15. ukfinfan says:

    Bit of fun at the Jets expense – I know there’s been plenty already but you can never get too much of a good thing.

    This has already been posted but a picture = a thousand words so

  16. ukfinfan says:

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  19. ukfinfan says:

    And one for the Bills

  20. ukfinfan says:

    On to the fins ………..

  21. ukfinfan says:

    O line

  22. ukfinfan says:


    Does this look familiar (check out the downfield blocking – amazing to see the difference it makes)

  23. ukfinfan says:

    General stuff

    Is this the new best catch of the season?

    Wait til they get in the No Fun League!

    The improbable streak continues!

    Fins receipts

  24. ukfinfan says:

    Great celebrations, but the Tweet from Justin Miners ๐Ÿ’”. Unimaginable.

  25. Ken says:

    The new British Invasion

  26. bailbondmike says:

    UK, that video of LB Jalen Graham was so BS. Yeah, maybe give him an unsportsman like penalty at the end but to take away the TD is total BS.

    BTW, he is a good ILB prospect. Would have been in draft this year if it were not for an ACL injury. He will be in this next draft.

  27. herdfan says:

    Howieโ€™s List
    ๐Ÿฌ v ๐Ÿฎ
    ๐Ÿฆฌ 41-20 ๐Ÿฌ

  28. The Flying Pig says:

    Howieโ€™s List
    ๐Ÿฌ v ๐Ÿฎ
    ๐Ÿฆฌ 41-20 ๐Ÿฌ

  29. ukfinfan says:

    Howieโ€™s/Josie’s List
    ๐Ÿฌ v ๐Ÿฎ
    ๐Ÿฆฌ 41-20 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ–56-10๐Ÿฌ (๐Ÿท 50 ๐Ÿ”!)
    ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 45-17 ๐Ÿฌ

  30. ukfinfan says:

    Took the liberty of customising a little

  31. ukfinfan says:

    One last pop at the Jets – a decade ago and nothing much has changed.

  32. steveccnv says:

    I’ve watched SF play a lot this year and year’s past, their O can be horrible at times, even frustrating for a non fan

    Much of what they do running is to mask their inabilities, especially of Garo Polo

    Every once in a while or against Rams it will all come together and you’ll see last night

    Never understood why people thought we’d be a mirror image after getting Hill

  33. naplesfan2010 says:

    Howieโ€™s List
    ๐Ÿฌ v ๐Ÿฎ
    ๐Ÿฆฌ 41-20 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 45-17 ๐Ÿฌ

  34. steveccnv says:

    Howieโ€™s List
    ๐Ÿฌ v ๐Ÿฎ
    ๐Ÿฆฌ 41-20 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 45-17 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐ŸŽฐ 30-21๐Ÿฌ

    • steveccnv says:

      I’d be surprised, if we didn’t come out flat, and like every other game Houston will get a td on their opening drive

      Seems like when we get the ball first, the last few years, and get an opening drive td, the officiating crew gives our opponent the calls early

      Coming out flat isn’t all bad, and maybe MM has that factored in somehow๐Ÿคช

  35. naplesfan2010 says:

    We’re going to need to drill setting the edge into Phillips and Ingram for the SF game.
    I don’t think Garoppolo can hurt anybody with scrambles up the middle.

    Van Ginkel or Roberts and Baker need to make sure they help out on the corners because of all the extra blockers the 49ers send out ahead of their ball carriers.

    Fortunately, Kohou is good at fighting through WR blocks to get to the ball carrier.

    • steveccnv says:

      X isn’t bad either at it, a little worse this year with the hammy, he seems better now though

      Between Phillips, Chubb and Ingram they’ll need to figure out, going forward, how to work together to control QBs in pocket

      For running QBs we seem to have the spy too far from LOS, why not use Wilkins also as a sort of spy, where he doesn’t exactly put his head down and rush the passer, he just cleans up when the QB steps up

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        yeah you’re right about the spy and all,
        but that is not a problem with Jimmy G.

        Deebo is the problem,
        getting to the corner too free,
        so he can weave his way like a punt returner.

        Too many TDs like that.

  36. Wyoming85 says:

    Howieโ€™s List
    ๐Ÿฌ v ๐Ÿฎ
    ๐Ÿฆฌ 41-20 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 45-17 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐ŸŽฐ 30-21๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿค  35โ€“ 10 ๐Ÿฌ

  37. Wyoming85 says:

    I’m hungry now

  38. steveccnv says:

    This game for me is just win, don’t need a blowout, 4 of their 8 losses have been 1 score games

    Would hope we’re up 2 scores, when Houston has the ball the last time, then in the end it won’t matter what they do on that drive

    The last Cleveland drive our passrush beat them down, wouldn’t mind seeing that a little more regularly

  39. steveccnv says:

    San Antonio Brahmas roster
    Jawon Pass
    Anthony Russo
    *Reid Sinnett
    *Jack Coan

    Offensive skill positions
    RB Jacques Patrick
    RB Calvin Turner
    WR Kendrick Rogers
    WR Jalen Tolliver
    TE Dylan Parham
    RB Kalen Ballage

  40. The Flying Pig says:

    There is ๐Ÿฎ in a 50 ๐Ÿ”you knowโ€ฆ

  41. Ken says:

  42. Ken says:

  43. naplesfan2010 says:

    No I mean, I get that.
    Ballage could not transfer his size to power nor his speed to quickness.
    I just don’t get why not.
    … bit like Daniel Thomas.

  44. naplesfan2010 says:

    WTF??? dropped us 3 places for not playing.
    How is Buffalo’s win over Browns better than ours?
    It’s not.

  45. stangerx says:

    Maybe I’m insecure, but I don’t think we deserve the #3 ratings.

    Dolphins Week 12 Power Rankings Roundup

    The Miami Dolphins remained an almost unanimous top five team coming out of their bye week

    • Ken says:

      Well we beat Buffalo, we are leading our division. The Vikings beat usโ€ฆwithout Tua and Armstead. I mean I think we are 3 or 4 but rankings donโ€™t really matter but I still find myself getting caught up with them

    • boulderfinfan says:

      How do we have 3 road games in a row. Coming out of that stretch with 2 wins would be amazing!

  46. boulderfinfan says:

    Howieโ€™s list (not Josieโ€™s:)
    27-21 the fish.

    I donโ€™t know how to post those cool images if you
    Tell me how I can do this myself. Thanks

  47. bailbondmike says:

    Rams waive RB Darrell Henderson after three-plus seasons in Los Angeles

    Another good RB on the market. He comes from the zone system ran at Memphis. He would be an upgrade over Gaskin and Ahmed. But we really don’t need him.

  48. bailbondmike says:

    Complete list of semifinalists for Pro Football Hall of Fame’s Class of 2023:

    Eric Allen, cornerback
    Jared Allen, defensive end
    Willie Anderson, offensive tackle
    Ronde Barber, cornerback
    Anquan Boldin, wide receiver
    Henry Ellard, wide receiver
    Jahri Evans, offensive guard
    London Fletcher, linebacker
    Dwight Freeney, defensive end
    James Harrison, linebacker
    Rodney Harrison, safety
    Devin Hester, kick returner/wide receiver
    Torry Holt, wide receiver
    Andre Johnson, wide receiver
    Albert Lewis, cornerback
    Robert Mathis, defensive end/linebacker
    Darrelle Revis, cornerback
    Steve Smith Sr., wide receiver
    Fred Taylor, running back
    Joe Thomas, offensive tackle
    Zach Thomas, linebacker
    Hines Ward, wide receiver
    DeMarcus Ware, linebacker/defensive end
    Ricky Watters, running back
    Reggie Wayne, wide receiver
    Vince Wilfork, defensive tackle
    Patrick Willis, linebacker
    Darren Woodson, safety

  49. herdfan says:

    Howieโ€™s List
    ๐Ÿฌ v ๐Ÿฎ
    ๐Ÿฆฌ 41-20 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 45-17 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐ŸŽฐ 30-21๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿค  35โ€“ 10 ๐Ÿฌ
    โ›ฐ 27-21 ๐Ÿฌ

  50. stangerx says:

    Howieโ€™s List
    ๐Ÿฌ v ๐Ÿฎ
    ๐Ÿฆฌ 41-20 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 45-17 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐ŸŽฐ 30-21๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿค  35โ€“ 10 ๐Ÿฌ
    โ›ฐ 27-21 ๐Ÿฌ
    stang 21-10 dolphins

  51. Mike E. says:

    Howieโ€™s List
    ๐Ÿฌ v ๐Ÿฎ
    ๐Ÿฆฌ 41-20 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 45-17 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐ŸŽฐ 30-21๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿค  35โ€“ 10 ๐Ÿฌ
    โ›ฐ 27-21 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ 21-10 ๐Ÿฌ
    โœ‹๏ธ31-17 ๐Ÿฌ

  52. Tim Knight says:

    Howieโ€™s List
    ๐Ÿฌ v ๐Ÿฎ
    ๐Ÿฆฌ 41-20 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 45-17 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐ŸŽฐ 30-21๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿค  35โ€“ 10 ๐Ÿฌ
    โ›ฐ 27-21 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ 21-10 ๐Ÿฌ
    โœ‹๏ธ31-17 ๐Ÿฌ
    โš”๏ธ27-10 ๐Ÿฌ

  53. herdfan says:

    Howieโ€™s List
    ๐Ÿฌ v ๐Ÿฎ
    ๐Ÿฆฌ 41-20 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 45-17 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐ŸŽฐ 30-21๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿค  35โ€“ 10 ๐Ÿฌ
    โ›ฐ 27-21 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ 21-10 ๐Ÿฌ
    โœ‹๏ธ31-17 ๐Ÿฌ
    ๐Ÿ›ก 27-10 ๐Ÿฌ

    I emojied you Tim. I assumed a๐Ÿฌ win.

  54. Mike E. says:

    LOL Herd, we’re doing double duty

  55. boulderfinfan says:

    That makes great sense but where did it come from originally?

  56. Tim Knight says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we ran it 40 times against the Texans.

  57. boulderfinfan says:

    Herd, it was this white boulder ๐Ÿ™‚ but whatever is fine.

  58. Mike E. says:

    Tim – sorry, that was me. Knights do carry swords. ๐Ÿ™ƒ

  59. Tim Knight says:

    UK, I wanted to ask you something since you’re from across the pond and live in a country that has a history over a thousand years old.

    In the USA people ask why do we still follow a document written a couple of hundred years ago. The UK still recognizes the royal family from the beginning even if they don’t have ultimate power anymore. People from around the world still recognize biblical texts and scriptures thousands of years old.

    How do people in your neck of the woods decide when it’s time to move on from history? In the USA there are people who basically want to erase our history and completely reform it. Our country is 246 years old. We’re a baby in the big scheme of things.

    For those of you who will view this as me trying to start a political discussion and you’re not into it, just move on. I’m asking UK his opinion for my own reasons. It’s really more of a human and historical thing than it is about our petty politics.

  60. bailbondmike says:

    Phelon, have you smoked a turkey on your Masterbuilt yet?

    Going to try it for the first time. Just got a small 12 pounder. It’s about the only thing I have not tried smoking.

  61. Tim Knight says:

    I always heard that the zone scheme we run takes time to learn. It’s very technical. We’re 10 games in and it looked right against the Browns. Yes that was the big game but it just happened. It’s not going to be like that against every opponent but I think we want to run it more down the stretch. The running game shows up in the playoffs.

    Tua and our weapons in the pass game with a good running game is almost impossible to defend. We hurt ourselves with penalties more than teams stop us.

  62. Krishna says:

    I tried to post a 10 minute video done by a bookie’s take on the Dolphins so far this year…basically from his highlights and his commentary he seems more spot on than the beat writers….lol. His view, it’s time to cash in on the Dolphins…oh my

    • Tim Knight says:

      We were dominating the Vikings physically but committed so many penalties we allowed them to win the game. That was also during the Thompson and Bridgewater games. Like Mike said in his article about that game, it was like we moved the ball 140 yards on one drive and didn’t score. LOL

  63. Krishna says:

    Seriously, his take, who can stop them especially after getting Wilson?

  64. Krishna says:

    His question was, what do you think is the biggest surprise or turnaround for the Dolphins this year?

    I say, the improvement in OL play, whether it’s due to the scheme or better players or better coaching or Tua’s development or all of the above….imo

  65. Tim Knight says:

    We have all seen that the trade for Jeff Wilson Jr. was a great trade. Along with Mostert both feasted in the SF run game and now McDaniel has them both in Miami.

  66. son of a son of a shula says:

    Tua throwing relentlessly into the middle of the field is gold. Teams canโ€™t defend that especially since Wilson is capable of doing what Edmonds couldnโ€™t do. You commit to defending the deep middle and we torch you in the run game, if you come up to stop the run we gut you in the deep middle. Itโ€™s everything we ever wanted. Speed kills.

  67. son of a son of a shula says:

    I feel like Tua has embraced two things this year. One is the offense and what heโ€™s asked to do in it and it fits his capabilities. The second is lessons learned from the master himself, Dan Marino, whoโ€™s had plenty of opportunities to teach Tua to โ€œsee it and let it goโ€, I feel like Tua has embraced the teachings of Dan and it shows up every time he fires into the middle of the field for 15-20 yards when we need 3. Loving it.

  68. son of a son of a shula says:

    Brandon Jones is the toughest loss weโ€™ve suffered, Ogbah would have been devastating were it not for the Chubb trade but Jones is the best blitzing Safety in the league and makes plays all over the field.
    We canโ€™t sustain too many more injuries especially on the D. Weโ€™re just deep enough now to mitigate it by and large. Gotta get the penalties down, Cleveland was a good start, we canโ€™t hurt ourselves anymore. Sanders needs to get right, heโ€™s not that far off hopefully he just had a short funk.

  69. Krishna says:

    Not to be political, but to use a political term, we’ve weaponized our offense…lmao…and I love it!

  70. Krishna says:

    Tua’s being coached up and he’s a sponge…keep chopping the wood.

  71. son of a son of a shula says:

    Miss your extra points in a blow out we can live with that. On the road in freaking Cleveland even though you cost us the coveted 40 burger. You canโ€™t miss 2 in most games, a lot of times missing one will bite you in the ass at some point. Next 3 games should be nice weather and a chance to redeem and get a fire going because weโ€™ll need you more and more as this season goes.
    Sanders man chill dude just kick the fucking ball, breathe.

  72. son of a son of a shula says:

    Remember the play against the Eagles where we lined up all strange at the goal line and only the Center Kicker and Holder were in the middle of the field and Sanders took the snap and threw a TD to the holder (might have been the other way around nonetheless) well we need that sort of play to maybe invigorate Sanders and get his blood flowing a little bit. That play was awesome.

  73. naplesfan2010 says:

    If you can get a keyboard that shows the windows key, hold that down and hit the period key. That’ll bring up a bunch of emojis.

  74. Mike E. says:

    Sonny – To add to what you were saying about Tua shredding teams in the middle of the field, he always hits the receivers on the perimeter too when the middle isn’t there. He’s become so good at that. I feel like when I watch him play, I hardly ever find myself saying “Damn, he shouldn’t have forced that throw”. He seems to make either the right decisions or he’s just been so accurate and timely it hasn’t mattered.

  75. pheloniusphish says:

    BBM – Havenโ€™t tried a turkey on the Masterbuilt yet. My next experiment is a duck.

  76. Ken says:

    Is it Sunday yet? ๐Ÿ˜ก๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฅ

  77. CavalierKong says:

    Ah yeah, gravy day.

    Yesterday, I got the turkeys dry-brined and put in the fridge. Today I make about 3 quarts of gravy. Today is almost as good as Thanksgiving- nothing beats the smell of the broth pervading the house. Plus, when making the gravy, it’s best to taste it at least 20 or 30 times to make sure it’s just right.

  78. CavalierKong says:

    Because Jones would throw a fit…although if I’m being honest, I already hate having to wait until the 1 o’clock hour for the game to start, so I’m glad it’s not getting pushed back to 5.

    From the article:

    Next week’s slate of games will feature a Sunday night showdown between the Dallas Cowboys and Indianapolis Colts. Several fans wanted the NFL to flex that game out of that slot.

    Fans believe next Sunday’s game between the Miami Dolphins and San Francisco 49ers should be in the national spotlight.

    Unfortunately for those fans, the NFL has decided to stick with the Cowboys and Colts for “Sunday Night Football” on Dec. 4.

  79. ukfinfan says:

    Tim Knight says:
    November 22, 2022 at 8:13 pm
    UK, I wanted to ask you something since youโ€™re from across the pond and live in a country that has a history over a thousand years old etc ………


    Like you, TK, I am apolitical. I see benefits of many systems and also disadvantages. Germany can have a coalition but we did it really badly here. I think the US, UK and French all have a fierce notion of freedom and independence (although the cheese eating surrender monkeys are perhaps less likely to toe the line when the fighting starts) even thought they may not all sit on the same side of the political divide. The timing of your question is quite apposite in that the supreme court in London just today ruled that it would be illegal for the Scottish Parliament to have a second referendum on independence unless it was approved by Westminster. Don’t even go near “Ireland”. We are a “United” Kingdom, which is not without cracks and in some ways, somewhat dis-united. Immigration can be a hot button subject for many as this is seen to “dilute” Britishness. We need an immigrant labour force, however, as lots of kids don’t want to do “low-paid” jobs, and our economy (like most) would grind to a halt without them. That being said, politicians are scrambling to reduce immigration whilst greater numbers by the day are flooding into the country, 50-100 per inflatable, paying Romanian paymasters vast sums to traverse the busiest shipping lane on the planet and take their lives into their own hands before (economic migrants) are then being deported to Rwanda (who the “right” signed a deal with to take them). Our senior politicians are a shit show at the moment, and we all know what’s happening with inflation and energy, whilst pension funds have been run down to unsustainable levels. Who’d be a kid brought up into today’s world?

    Having prefaced this with a doom-laden view of being British, we are a resourceful people, diplomatic (mostly) and pragmatic. We are usually polite, inquisitive and reasonably sociable (less than Americans). We will queue patiently, we hate injustice, love the underdog and are charitable by nature. We are competitive, reliable and family-oriented. I suppose, in a roundabout way (all imho of course) this is the essence of why we just carry on with things as they are unless something is broken so badly, it can’t be fixed. As you rightly pointed out, we have a very long history, even though we have been conquered and new influences brought onto these isles many years ago and many times. Maybe this cuts to the heart of your question, in that we are a United Kingdom, despite all of the above and even though immigrants have settled here successfully over many centuries, whereas the US is more of a melting pot of many more countries (probably) having spent less time together. This could explain why you potentially have more fault lines than we do. I also think you have a way worse racism problem than we do. Racism is far from dead here, but in most circles it is rightly absolutely reviled.

    I also think as well as a long history, we also have a more “storied” backdrop than many states with all the pageantry and associated traditions that go with it. Many are absolutely against this (monarchy) but it undoubtedly contributes to our identity and there is a certain “order” to it all which shapes most even if it’s on a subconscious basis. This “natural order” is something that most people actually don’t want to change and most are very proud to be British, with all that goes with it (good and bad).

    Below is a link which is a mock test on questions for people who want to be British – I’m going to try it after typing to see how I get on!

    Another factor re the question you posed is we don’t actually have a constitution. We have some extremely arcane laws such as “freeman of the city” awards, which confer on the recipient the right to graze his sheep or cattle in a city centre full of busy traffic where little grass grows, but in the most part, laws are kept up to date and we have a legal framework that seems fit for purpose (though I concede I am no expert). Found this link on-line which saves me doing even more typing and explains things better than I could anyway.

    It’s summarised succinctly “Codified constitutions are typically produced following a major historic turning point, such as the grant of independence, revolution, defeat in war, or complete collapse of the previous system of government. None of these things have happened to the UK, which is why it has never had cause to codify its constitution. (Our one revolution, in the 17th century, did briefly produce a written constitution: Cromwellโ€™s Instrument of Government)”.

    I can see that a constitution, whilst defining guiding principles, can easily appear to have become outdated as the overall speed of progress in the world accelerates by the day. I also think something that has served a country well for centuries should not be torn up on a whim. It is only my impression, but I think one of the drawbacks of the “American psyche” that I have seen many times is that an admission of being wrong is somehow proof of individual weakness. As Brits, we take the piss out of each other relentlessly and I think this makes one less “brittle” and perhaps less dogmatic, therefore more able to back down and see the middle ground. I have seen elements of this on this board. Friends, who go back years, calling each other out and throwing insults around that (at least to my sensibilities) go way beyond piss-taking. Why? To prove you are not wrong? Everyone’s wrong all the time. I think an absolute belief that “you are right, and nothing else is even worth listening to” peaked in “The Donald” – in my view, one of the top 10 arseholes on the planet throughout history, who set your country back years in terms of how he divided to conquer and serve his own ends. I bring all this up not to have a go at anyone here, or their views, but just to say that even if the constitution was ripe for amendment now historically, I’m not sure the atmosphere is one in which real progress would be achieved with so many so violently opposed to a differing view and so entrenched in this and unwilling to budge. I don’t want to politicise this blog, I hate politics and I know Wyo does and Randy left because of it, but in my opinion, it impinges somewhat on the subject you rasied.

    Sorry, this has turned into an essay. It wasn’t meant to, although it is a very complex topic with more moving parts than I’ve touched on, but this kind of stuff does fascinate me psychologically, rather than politically. You asked “How do people in your neck of the woods decide when itโ€™s time to move on from history?” It’s a dangerous thing to do so, as the lessons of the past inform us going forward (nazism, slavery etc etc) and here in the UK lots of historical statues which have caused offense have been removed by the power of the people as they were celebrating the lives of people with less than a life well lived. There are people who will say this is PC thinking gone too far. Most people in the UK have a more pragmatic “live and let live” approach though. What you bring up are mighty issues Tim and have been grappled with all over the world, since what it really boils down to, is finding a way to live in harmony. Nowhere gets it right all the time, that’s for sure. To close, I’m quite skeptical that a written set of ideals is necessarily the right way to achieve it anyway. Back to psychology – it’s what Mike McDaniel said. It’s not easy in the NFL to get everyone on the same page in an organisation and moving in the same direction. It starts with individuals putting the faith in the someone at the top and his/her vision, and as we’ve seen with the Fins, getting the right someone isn’t easy.

    The End.

  80. ukfinfan says:

    ………. back to football

  81. ukfinfan says:

    Always slightly sad at this time of year, remembering Kevin Cadle

    Fantastic tribute by Neil Reynolds above.

    He was the anchor of Sky’s coverage and they did a 10 hour show featuring all the days games – Cecil Martin was the guest of honour carving the bird every year. Kev loved the Bills when they were really bad, but he bore the jokes at his expense like a trooper. Great man with a great personality. RIP kev.

  82. Ken says:

  83. Ken says:

  84. Ken says:

    Class act

  85. The Flying Pig says:

    Yes UK has the magma carta but they are pretty unique when it comes to constitutions because they recognize additional written and unwritten law

    So that blows my mind

    The Magna Carta is actually just a small piece of their constitutional principles and there is a conscious effort not to reduce their idea of conditional principles to a single document

    The US actually has one of the worlds oldest constitutions

    A lot of Countries in the world have constitutions that were ratified after 1950, including a good chunk of Europe – France for example is 1958 even though the French Revolution was right after our revolution

    Itโ€™s kind of wild how differently the world views the idea

  86. The Flying Pig says:

  87. The Flying Pig says:

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Heโ€™s played in 21 games and has taken 55 sacks in those 21 games


    • CavalierKong says:

      Houston Texans: “We remember how Mike Glennon fared against the Dolphins and felt it was best for the team to bench Davis Mills this week.”

      Davis Mills: “I’m coming for you Mike Glennon…”

      (Because of the weirdly long neck)

  88. The Flying Pig says:

  89. bookman11 says:

    Happy Thanksgiving. Go Lions and Vikes

  90. manitobafinfan says:

    Happy Thanksgiving to all my friends to the South โ€ฆ

    Any of you know what tomorrow is in Canada ??

    • manitobafinfan says:

      THURSDAY. ๐Ÿ˜ก

      • ukfinfan says:

        Thursday here too Toba! The nearest we have to this is “Harvest Festival”, which is a church-based celebration where the year’s “harvest” is collected by the church and distributed to the needy.

        Happy Thanksgiving to all US mobsters. Enjoy your Turkey, football, family and hopefully no planes, trains and automobile mishaps.

        The one thing that has transferred this side of the pond is Black Friday. So there is something to be thankful for!

  91. ukfinfan says:

    Breathes in and holds breath

  92. ukfinfan says:

    Pretty sure everyone on here can more than handle themselves in the kitchen, but holy smokes!

  93. herdfan says:

    ๐Ÿฆƒ๐Ÿ ๐ŸŒฝ๐Ÿฅ—๐Ÿฅง๐Ÿ—๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿˆ๐Ÿท

  94. Capt. Stubbs says:


  95. Mike E. says:

    If I had a flamethrower, I’d love to try cooking this way . . .

    • ukfinfan says:

      I’d want a bacteriologist to check it out first – don’t want you to end up Mike Gestroenteritisicki?!? ๐Ÿคฎ

  96. Ken says:

  97. naplesfan2010 says:

    Happy Thanksgiving!
    In addition to all our usual blessings, this year we have 7-3 to be thankful for!

  98. bailbondmike says:

    Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

  99. ukfinfan says:

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