Ding dong the Bills are dead, the wicked Bills are dead!. Actually, NO. OK, the Bills traded a very talented WR away to the Houston Texans. While Stefon Diggs had a productive season last year for the Bills, his 2nd half performance was way down from the first half. In the first 9 games last season, Diggs had 70 receptions for 870 yards and 3 TD’s, including five 100 yard performances. In the next 9, which includes the playoff game against the Steelers, Diggs didn’t manage one 100 yard receiving game, and had only 1 TD reception.The Bills have 10 total picks in the 2024 draft, one 1st RD (#28), one 2nd RD (#60), one compensatory 4th RD pick (#133), three 5th RD picks (#144, #160 and #163), two 6th RD picks (#200 and #204) and finally one 7th RD pick (#248). They’re not going to find a WR in this draft that is capable of playing to the level of Diggs immediately, but they can still find an impact WR that can help this team, without carrying the selfish, negative impact on the locker room. Plus, as I always stress, the Bills still have QB Josh Allen, who is a relentless warrior and certainly has the Dolphins number.
Back to our Dolphins. I was listening to WQAM this morning, as I try to do as often as I can to the Joe Rose Show. Omar Kelly was co-hosting with Joe Rose, and they briefly discussed the draft, and in particular, Chris Grier’s mindset on the draft. I’ll paraphrase and summarize for you, Omar Kelly insinuated that Chris Grier will draft the best player available (BPA) period. No position will hold any favor, whomever they have graded the highest, that’s who he’s taking. I’ll go ahead and call bullshit on that. Is it possible? Of course. Is it logical? Of course not. You don’t make a trade for a WR (Tyreek Hill)who is the highest salary on the roster ($31M cap hit 2024), and then say we’re building the roster responsibly for the future. If we’re building, you don’t let 2 of your best players on their respective lines (DT/DE Christian Wilkins) and (RG Robert Hunt) leave in free agency. Next season, Tyreek Hill’s cap hit is $34M. There’s nothing responsible building for the future about that. It’s irresponsible, unless you’re going for it all in a small window. With huge question marks on the D-line, and even on the O-line, considering the injury track records of LT Terron Armstead and LG Isaiah Wynn who never play a whole season. We have a lot of depth on the O-line, but how much quality remains to be seen. On the D-line, we don’t have a replacement for Christian Wilkins no matter what defense we’re running. You can’t put Sieler and 2 guys who don’t play a lot of snaps and don’t make the slightest threat of getting to the QB on that line and expect it to work. In other words, if Grier takes a WR in RD1, I’m going to flip.
Another issue we have with this artificial win now mode is we have players coming up for contracts. S Jevon Holland is in the final year of his rookie contract. The knee injuries suffered last season hurt us, because Holland has been an impact player for us. If he’s healthy, and has a good season, we’re going to need to pay him. OLB Jaelan Phillips will be on his 4th year contract, and if he plays well this season, don’t expect him to want to play on his 5th year option. Most of the offensive linemen are on one year contracts. Next year, Armstead is retiring. Isaiah Wynn is a 1YR contract. OC Aaron Brewer and RT Austin Jackson are the only starting O-line guys on multiple year contracts. We’re going to have to bring in a whole bunch of guys for the O-line next season. Same goes for the D-line. Only Zach Sieler is under contract beyond this season. Benito Jones and Da’Shawn Hand are both one year contracts. While some of you are oohing and aahing at all these signings, it’s a band aid. Not even real Johnson & Johnson Band Aids, they’re just cheap adhesive bandages. Again, we take a WR with our first pick I’m gonna lose it! We need quality players on the D-line and O-line for this year and beyond. You want to pay $25M per season for a guy like Robert Hunt next season? $30M per season for a guy like Christian Wilkins next year? The salaries just keep going higher my friends, this season was nothing new, nothing different.
So, less than 3 weeks away, Chris Grier better be looking real hard at fixing those trenches, both sides. As you know, my feeling is the D-line is the priority, but it’s razor thin over the O-line, or an OLB/Pass rusher. As I stressed a moment ago, it’s not just this season, but next season a lot of the players on both the O-line and D-line disappear next season. In the 2025 draft, we have our regular picks in rounds 1 through 4, we have two 5th RD picks, no 6th RD pick, and two 7th RD picks. In addition, we should get a 3rd RD compensatory pick for Christian Wilkins and maybe a 5th RD compensatory pick or better for Robert Hunt. The other issue on the docket is QB. We have yet to give QB Tua Tagovailoa the huge contract that is supposed to be happening. If we don’t get that done, then we’re either paying him after the season, or looking for a new QB. A lot of dominoes have to fall, but right now, we need to start building those trenches, and do it wisely, through the draft.
Finsmob Unleashed 
Confession: I’m MUCH more satisfied with the depth of the O-Line in this class, as opposed to the depth of the D-Line in this class.
Everytime I choose an O-Lineman in the 1st round, I bristle at what’s left on the D-Line @ R2P55. Braden Fiske would be very ideal @ 55, but I’m afraid he’s going to be long gone by the time we pick… he’s trending upward.
My thought? It really may serve us better to go D-Line @ 21 for three reasons…
💯 agreed
bailbondmike
says:
April 7, 2024 at 7:39 pm
M13, did you ever check out that safety the Dolphins brought in on a private visit, Calen Bullock?
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Yes, and I’m not overly impressed. He doesn’t suck, but he doesn’t stand out to me at all.
Thanks! I am really up in the air on who I like outside of Nubin and Kinchens as far as 2nd/3rd(in trade) round goes. A little later, I like Oladapo and Mustapha.
You’re welcome, man! I’m very high on Oladapo and Mustapha isn’t far behind in terms of day 3 guys.
Now this is just my little opinion… but IF all of Graham Barton, JPJ, Johnny Newton, and Byron Murphy (and/or perhaps a player we’re really targeting) are still on the board @ R1P21, we’d be foolish not to trade down (if possible) a few spots to regain our lost 3rd rounder.
We’d still end up with the BPA meshing with our needs and be better off for it.
100%, not to mention a top CB or Edge in the mix. I think it might be almost a given a team is going to come calling.
Agreed… I all but predict it’s going to happen.
https://x.com/MiamiDolphins/status/1776684070413410469
LOVE IT!!!
Nice!
Semper Fi
Awesome!
That dude looks really good for 100 years old!
wow!
BB Mike,
You and I are SO about (in whatever order) OL, DL, and S this Draft. I’m with ya 100%, my guy.
Yes sir!
I can’t wait until after the draft so I can do my 2025 mock draft. I know Tim is anticipating it also. lol
😆
😂
For Ken:
Sign him now
been mocking various DL to us in round one
but NOT NT type.we need IMHO more of the DE in a 3-4 type DL
or the Aaron Donald JJ Watt type 4-3 DT
(which is what i think Seiler and Wilkins are actually)
Yeah we need a versatile DE/DT who can be a 3 down player.
Agreed, Naples.
The way you guys explain the trade down to take advantage of the deep DT class is great and sHouLd get us one of the best safeties or a sleeper at EDGE.
BUT
I do not believe this class is very deep at DT. I believe this class is LOADED with O-Line talent through 3 rounds.
well I meant there are about 4 or 5 really good DTs all set to go between #20 # 30
and we could still get a good OL in the 2nd.
I know what you’re saying is that there won’t be any stud DTs left at #55, so we need to go DT in the first, and OL can wait till the 2nd.
I was trying to agree with you on that.
What team would be the trade partner?
we shouldn’t drop to SF or KC picks cause all the guys we would want would be gone.
we can’t swap with Bills or Lions or Vikes because they don’t have 3rd round picks to give us.
Eagles also don’t have a third,
but they also wouldn’t give that much to go up just 1 spot.
That leaves the Bucs and Cards and Pack and Cowboys.
The Boys and Pack have #88 & #89 in the 3rd.
That’s pretty low for us to want real bad but better than waiting till the 5th.
excuse me
… that was supposed to say Bucs and Boys and Pack have #87-89.
but the Packers and TB also have 91 and 92
so they might not mind giving one up as much.
The Cards pick 4th so there’s probably no need for them to trade up to 21 from 27.
but they also have 2 3rds. I’d love to snag their juicy pick 71.
they pick second in the 3rd, so maybe if we gave them a 6th they’d do it.
I left out trading for DT with the Ravens because of Weaver having been the DL coach there last year.
Not sure the Ravens are too happy about him going to a big rival, so then also asking them to give him with a bright young star at his position group might be asking way too much.
maybe now he’s a day 3 prospect
Apparently even before this, he had to answer a lot of questions to GMs around the league about his partying
so this is pretty devastating to his draft stock
The multi-million dollar mistake
Hi Alain, 2 questions: what do you put the odds at that Miami signs OBJ? If you were to bet, what position do you think Miami goes at 21, assuming they stay put?
Hey Jason, I’d put the OBJ signing at 70 percent right now, though I could see a scenario where it doesn’t happen until after the draft. As for 21, I’m thinking edge defender.
It won’t happen until after 6/1. We don’t have the cap.
until then
@OmarKelly
Odell Beckham Jr. Mocks Report He’s Signing With #Dolphins
Someone asked a while back about UCONN OG Christian Haynes. Ryder’s got it covered.
(5) Christian Haynes is an ELITE Athlete | 2024 NFL Draft Film Breakdown – YouTube
for whatever it’s worth- he’s there @55 almost every time I do a mock draft
Same.
I’ve been rather high on Haynes for a bit. I’m the one who asked your opinion on Haynes a week or so ago. He’s only ever played RG in college, but he’s a great zone player.
Yup, Ryder broke him down very well, IMO. Dude certainly knows what he’s talking about.
And Haynes is one of those guys where if we go DT in the 1st round, he’s a great get in the 2nd round. Same can’t be said (IMO) about any DT being a great get in the 2nd round.
About to take in the total solar eclipse…NOT…lol.
It looks like it’s going to rain…lol.
I think it’s the first time I’ve been in it’s path of totality.
I’m in the 80% totality range and it looks like it’s going to rain here, too. Very overcast.
Well, that was pretty cool!!!! It got dark! Wildlife went down and up… crickets, birds…fucking amazing
we saw a total eclipse about 5 years ago. About a minute and a half of totality. One of the coolest things I’ve ever witnessed.
HA! Been mocking him to us for MONTHS! Marshall RB Rasheen Ali. Most of the players the Dolphins have brought in on “top 30” visits are day 3 prospects.
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Barry Jackson
@flasportsbuzz
NEW: Dolphins summon prodigious touchdown producer to team headquarters https://miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article287426835.html?taid=66142322ab6464000176d64a&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter… The latest on an intriguing upcoming 30 visit, per source
Dolphins to bring in running back who led college football in touchdowns two years ago From miamiherald.com
Ryder even did a video on him.
clouds broke just enough and in enough time to see the corona…just wow!
Cool!
I’ll post him again since the Dolphins are showing interest.
(5) Rasheen Ali | 𝟚𝟚 | Marshall Thundering Herd RB – YouTube
some people think he’s a safety
I’m impressed with DeJean, but I’m not sure how I’d feel about us drafting him in the 1st round with so many other glaring holes.
I don’t see us going corner in the 1st round.
Same, Bro. But… nothing would surprise me at this point.
There was a very brief break in the clouds and we were able to see the 80% eclipse here in PA. It was pretty cool to witness. Morning birds began to chirp during the event, but no crickets as I’d heard back in ’17.
Starting to hear Edge at 21 to replace Chubbs at the start of this year and in the future
Should we worry more about Chubbs replacement for the start of the season, than a different position at the end of the season? Makes no sense
Sure we need pass rush until Chubb is healthy, but at what expense
What’s the saying about pass rushers? 😉
Then I’d say sign another FA EDGE until Chubb and Phillips are back.
I’m for bringing Ogbah back at a reasonable contract.
IF we begin to draft players to replace our already high-priced players (<– who we brought in to WIN NOW), it’s an admission of defeat in my eyes.
Nothing will surprise me, but IF we’re going ALL-IN once again, we’ve got to fill the holes left on our O-Line, D-Line, and Safety positions.
Well drafting an OT to eventually replace Armstead or for when he gets hurt and can’t go, is the same thing. Watch we’ll do that and Armstead will play all 17 games make all pro and the pro bowl. 😂
YUP!!! 😆
I AM totally for the eventual replacement of T-Stead. Graham Barton could be that guy, Cooper Beebe could possibly be that guy, or Kiran Amegadjie could be that guy.
1st round: Graham Barton
2nd round: Cooper Beebe
3rd round: Kiran Amegadjie
ALL of these cats have played LT
Oh yeah… and each one of them grade over 80+ in a ZBS, with Kiran being the best.
Lamm has already said this is his last season so OT makes sense for us. 1st or 2nd round.
Lets say we re-sign both Emmanuel Ogbah and Connor Williams… does this draft hit better than when I posted it 2 days ago?
mf13ss
says:
April 6, 2024 at 10:37 pm
Nothing official here from me, just a mere thought… and this thought goes with the idea of re-signing Connor Williams at Center…
21.
Johnny Newton DT Illinois
59.
Kamren Kinchens S Miami (FL)
95.
Kiran Amegadjie OT Yale
198.
Edefuan Ulofoshio LB Washington
241.
Will Reichard K Alabama
Regarding Christian Hayes: I see absolutely no reason why he couldn’t be converted to Center. He’s got all of the traits to become an incredible Center in the NFL.
*Haynes
M13
I think Amegadjie goes before the 3rd round
I disagree, my porcine friend. For one, he’s still in recovery from his torn quad to the tune that he was only able to do the bench press at his Pro Day.
What’s more, he’s from a small football school at Yale: it’s going to be a LEAP for him from small school to the NFL level. He’s not likely to be an instant starter for both of these reasons.
Like you, I’m VERY high on Amegadjie! But I don’t think he’s going in the 2nd round.
As always, JMO.
You all know we will not draft what you’re all mocking right? 🤣
Lol…agreed!
Somewhere in BBM’s 1000 mock drafts will be the pick we make
Tim Knight
says:
April 9, 2024 at 1:06 am (Edit)
You all know we will not draft what you’re all mocking right? 🤣
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Oh we know! We’ll take a WR or S with our first pick and we’ll all lose our minds. lol
Keep hearing good things about Tart, I’m going to take it as a wash for losing Raekwon, but in reality he’ll be playing more of Wilkins’ reps
Still think some of our issues against good teams had to do with the amount of reps Sieler and Wilkins got, you can still thrive against weaker comp, but once it gets much tougher you just don’t have that extra gear left
Michael Jordan coasted for 3 qtrs, then came alive in the 4th
We see lots of guys with great stats per snap, but once the reps increase the avg per snap declines
I believe we’ll benefit from a rotation against better teams
I wanted to try a draft where I took Cooper DeJean (to play safety) early. I paid the price on OL availability after that pick
Grief continues to fill the roster with 1 year signings of “never wases” Let Wilkins walk, and replace him with Tart who had serious attitude issues.
After getting locked down by the Titans on a one-year tender, Tart didn’t do much to hide his displeasure with the team. He was kicked out of a practice in August and seemed to frustrate coaches as the 2023 season went on. Finally, in December he was waived by the Titans and tweeted that he requested the move.
According to ESPN’s Turron Davenport, it was Tart’s lackluster “effort and attitude” that ultimately resulted in the tackle getting waived.
While he was claimed by the Texans, Tart appeared in only two games with the team and was a healthy scratch during Houston’s postseason run.
all the while piling on dead cap in future years for players that will not even be on the roster for two years passed.
If the Dolphins do not win a Superbowl this year (they will not and will miss the playoffs) Grief should finally be fired. I am hoping with real flames… See avi
I’m seriously not impressed with Tart’s on-field performance either. Again, the most he’s ever been on the field in a single season was 47%.
Now that works if we’re doing a rotation on the D-Line, but he still lacks at defending against the run.
I could see him being cut before the season even begins.
If Tart can’t be coached-up by our D-coaches, he could possibly be a total waste of our time.
Ryder had a video on him, showing the (very limited) highlights/promise of what Tart could bring, but I highly doubt he brings it 100%, coupled with his attitude.
Rock – But all the Dolphins fans twitter experts say we’re done with the D-line. We’re drafting a WR or TE for Tua
Drafting a TE in the 7th is a wasted draft pick, let alone any other round, sans Bowers falling to 21. This kid Fortson will be better in 2024, than the rest of the draft class
Smith is going to play a lot of snaps as will Smythe and Julian Hill is another guy who could develop into a nice player.
I don’t see us drafting either position early.
M13, what I’ve read about Tart’s production is the opposite of what you’re saying about him.
I suppose it’s where one gets their data from. Most obviously, if the data comes from a ‘rah-rah’ Phins forum, Tart is absolutely glorious. Then (from non-Phins forums and data points), the converse applies.
To be clear, I think he could be good for our D-Line rotation in spelling our starters. However, it would seem that’s all he’s good for.
Yes, we NEED that kind of player: I hope we didn’t overpay him.
I view Tart as a ‘3rd and long’ situational pass-rusher from the interior.
What if I told ya that we could have an interior pass-rusher, regardless of down and distance, on nearly every snap, next to Sieler?
AND, who is better at stuffing the run than Tart?
Sorry… and somebody who is MUCH better at stuffing the run than Tart?
I’d be just fine taking a S in the first if they truly feel the value is there. Safety is usually a core position because they’re like the Center of the defense or just the secondary. I don’t know if it’s still that way nowadays, but good safety who can get people lined up the way they should be can be huge. And, it’s a position of need anyway. Just get a good player. Who cares what position it is?
We have Holland and Poyer and if we move Ramsey around at times, not sure safety is a position to be drafted early. Does this draft have big time safeties?
It depends on if you’re looking at SS or FS.
It does seem to me that we may be going more rotation on the DL.
That could be, but we really don’t know as of yet.
there’s probably a good reason Tart was available when he was
so I would be surprised if he didn’t have a lot of warts
but that also supports the idea of not having a superstar at the position
when we draft well (and I think that is need to is) we are going to have to let good players we drafted go
I’m more worried about next years free agents than Wilkins
Waddle, Phillips and Holland
also as of right now: Tua is a free agent next year
is there a workable scenario when you keep Wilkins and Robert Hunt and then also keep all those guys
1 year deals on a guy with an inconsistent history makes sense in a lot of ways
don’t know if this is accurate but maybe we have more time than I thought for waddle
Ken says:
April 9, 2024 at 7:14 am
Somewhere in BBM’s 1000 mock drafts will be the pick we make
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That’s why I do that many! lol
@schadjoe
Chris Broussard says on FS1 that Tua does not deserve a monster pay day. Broussard cites health concerns. And says Miami needs to beat good teams and Tua needs to be better against good teams. Broussard also concerned about Tua performances in cold weather.
He’s right on all counts. Anyone who doesn’t see this doesn’t want to see it. It’s real
It’s all just a media narrative!
The narrative is always best when it agrees with you. 😜
Tim,
I guess when I think about drafting I don’t think about the coming season. I think long term. Poyer is an aging vet. Sure, he might still have some solid football left in him, but he’s not a long term solution. Holland may or may not even be here from the sounds of things, so whether or not he’s a long term solution is yet to be determined. Ramsey isn’t a safety, so I don’t even consider him in my thinking. Who knows? We may have yet another DC next year who decides never to play him at safety. Add to that really nothing in the cupboard, and I see nothing but holes, Mr.!!! Lol
I hear ya!
M13,
Well, if our DC is actually going to play 3 safety looks a lot, it follows that you want safeties who can cover over big hitters. That would suggest they look more at FS. I can’t say what they feel they have in house and what weakness they may want to address. I don’t care if they draft a safety in the first. It’s not what I’d do, but I understand the need and the impact a really good safety can have. Or, do they draft a corner who can play safety? Such as…ahem…Cooper DeJean! I think DeJean could develop into a Harrison Smith type. He played safety early in his career.
Another one of my day 3 favs:
Ainias Smith is the ULTIMATE Gadget Weapon | 2024 NFL Draft Film Breakdown (youtube.com)
We have 9 DL currently on the roster. After the draft and final cutdowns it will probably be 5-6 of them left. With all the nickel that gets played and Edge defenders, I’d say the max DL we keep is 6-7.
the thing about Tart is that we went after him and signed him in spite of already having signed 5 or 6 DTs, so somebody in our FO or coaching staff sees something they like a lot.
I heard we guaranteed money to Gallimore and Benito and it seems we like Hand, and then there’s Harris that has good rep, so maybe that’s the crew with Sieler if we keep 6 and play all 6 so nobody gets gassed. That leaves Pili on the PS. Mack and Nixon look like long shots.
Now if we draft Johnny, that bumps somebody else like Harris off the 53.
We need at least 2 DL that can handle NT duties and then 4 who can play multiple techniques. We’re going to need 4 edge and at least 5 off the ball LBs, and 10 DBs. That’s 25. That leaves 25 on offense and 3 STs – K, P and LS.
I find it amusing that all these commentators out there that think Tua doesn’t deserve a massive contract are just haters. Why would that be? There are so many different guys, why on earth would they hate Tua?
The simple answer is – They don’t.
They’re just speaking their mind, giving their opinion on the situation. Tua defenders automatically cry foul. It’s an illness. Leading the league in passing yards doesn’t win championships. Beating the good teams and the bad teams does. Winning big games does. Tua wants to win, he will seemingly do anything. He put on a lot of weight to help with his durability. This season he took off the weight and is looking to be quicker. Maybe this is the year he puts it all together. I hope it is. I still don’t pay him though until he does it
FWIW – Adam Beasley was on WQAM this morning. He thinks the Dolphins priority is an OT that will play OG this season and be in line to play LT next season. He also thinks an OLB/pass rusher is more likely than DT/DE. He said while no one we got on the D-line is a star, he feels the pass rush will predominantly be coming from the OLB’s, and since Phillips and Chubb may not be ready early, Dolphins need to find a player to get the job done while those guys are rehabbing, getting ready.
trouble with that is you’re asking a college star LT (First Rounder) to play RG for a year.
A) why would he want to do that? Why piss off your First Round pick?
B) not all OT are built to play OG as the prototype bodies aren’t the same.
C) what if he is mediocre or sucks at OG? … we already have a meh guy at OG, so why waste a #1 pick?
D) what if the position change blows his confidence or gets him hurt or just messes up his learning curve? That’s happened before, and some guys never get right.
Between Armstead and Lamm we have LT covered, so we can wait a year and get a prolong the time before we have to pay the rookie.
Let’s get a guy who can come in and start for us at his position, start learning, and make some plays for us.
Trouble with not doing it is you’d be pigeon-holed into drafting an OT next year in the 1st, then playing a rookie at LT
Tunsil had Albert’s next to him to tutor him his rookie season, while he played LG
If he sucks at OG you redshirt him, no big deal, we have enough OGs to pick up the slack
I don’t think the national media are “haters”
I actually hope Tua’s agent is listening – maybe we get a better deal….lol
Yeah, me too!!!
Really (Sheldon Cooper)
That’s all they’ve been doing since Tua entered the league
Naples,
None of that stuff worries me about drafting an OT other than he may not work at guard. That can happen sometimes. I’d draft a center anyway. It’s more important to Tua’s protection, and for the whole OL overall. A weak center means a weak OL….especially when you have poor guards….which we do.
We’ve already played our hand at C, Brewer was signed to be our starting C, he’s too small to play OG, he’s mentioned he’s more of a fit at C
He’s too small to stand up to a NT H2H too, so he will always need help from the OG which in turn limits what the OG can do otherwise. Brewer was TERRIBLE in pass blocking, might as well be wearing rollerskates. He is athletic and “fast” for an Oline-man but is easily bowled over by the big nasty DT’s he went up against. I hope they are not depending on him developing. It’s OK for fans to hope, but the GM should not run the team based upon hope. FIRE THE BUM
counter argument on behalf of the national media about Tua
the reality is opinions are split on this topic
if we are going to say the other guys are right bc they are biased Dolphins/Tua fans you have to explain this
I saw this on Twitter today
if he is a 2nd rounder, he might make a great pick for us
he can probably play OG and eventually play center down the line if Brewer is not up to the task
Naples – It’s not an uncommon way to go about it with OT’s playing inside until they’re ready to for NFL speed. Once you get past the best OT’s in the draft, a lot of those guys project inside anyway. We do need O-line help either way, most of our guys are gone next year. Armstead, Wynn, Jones, Lamm, Smith, all gone next season
I know a few of you aren’t very high in the Brewer signing
but two things that are notable
We aren’t done on the OL as far as the draft is concerned
personally I wouldn’t not take a center in round 1 – especially after the brewer signing
I think some one that can play OT down the line but play OG is ideal as our first pick
my favorites are Barton and Fautanu are my two favorites
but the other thing we have some flexibility to do is to take a center like Powers-Johnson or Zack Frazier if they are available in the 2nd
No matter what you think of him, we already have one versatile OL in Eichenberg
so we have a little bit of room to work with
Piggy – I guess it depends on what perspective you look at Tua from. If you value the great play he’s had against bad teams, and just think he’ll get over the hump against the good teams and big games, then you think he should get paid. If you think he’s not capable of elevating his game against good teams and in big games, then you don’t.
I think the right perspective is to look at the whole picture instead of how he played against good or bad teams only
I also don’t think signing him prevents us from Drafting a QB within the next couple of years. If you are looking to replace him, and you want to use the draft instead of a trade or a free agent, which is generally the only way you find a franchise QB – your draftee is going to be on his rookie contract for the length of Tua’s extension anyway
if Tua is the same Tua he was in 24 that he was in 23 and 22 and doesn’t improve – you have a good QB and bringing in the guy that will be your franchise is still a possibilitt
signing Tua long term isn’t the kiss of death some people are presenting it to be
**Against GREAT DEFENSES
I fixed it for your myopic ass
Also
Am I crazy?
have I 🐖💨 too much?
It makes a lot of sense that on draft OL in the first and 2nd round to me sort of like we did once upon a type with Richmond Webb and Keith Sims
usually every year my pig brain is trying to tell you guys we don’t need to focus on OL – but this year, I think it makes sense to focus on OL…
We are truly living in Pigzar times…
here is more on Sweat
if you don’t know about Sweat – he’s enormous
and pretty much fits the description of a NT to a tee
Texas played a kind of variation of a 3-4, so sweat played a classic NT – but Texas also played a 2-4-5 defense without a Classic NT – so he actually played both and moved around a little bc of Byron Murphy’s talents
so he’s fairly versatile
and may be available on day 3…if he hasn’t been drinking….lol
Piggy – I do look at the whole picture. I’m worried that he will continue to struggle against good teams and big games, because that’s his track record. Maybe he’ll add a wrinkle to his game, since he’s trying to slim down and become quicker and more athletic. I want to see it first though.
If he does that, which I think is possible and I worry about too
We can draft a new QB in 25 or 26
I don’t think giving him that extension kills our chances to do that
I’ve been talking about drafting a QB since the end of the season – I’ve sort of settled on the fact that we will not be this offseason
I think there is a good chance Tua takes another step or 2 up this seasons – in fact I think it’s highly likely he continues to get better
But I also think we watched him struggle this year – the Buffalo game broke my heart
But the worst thing this franchise can do is join the QB carousel when we have a solid QB on our roster
If we can’t get to the next level with Tua – we probably can get to the same level in the next couple of years, while we try to find the guy who gets us to the next level
There’s only one way to get that guy – the draft
To me the idea of chasing Kirk cousins or Justin fields when we have Tua is laughable
You can sign Tua to the highest Contract ever and still have a rookie QB on his rookie contract
No way, I wouldn’t pay any of those guys who have also struggled in big games. You have to draft and then hope for the best
yeah but if you are relying on hope (and you always are)
you are better off having a guy under contract
It’s the same thing really. We’re hoping Tua can take the next step. There’s no way of knowing whether he will or if he can stay healthy again, or if he even plays as well as last season
I don’t think it’s the same thing
we might end up with the next Zach Wilson…
Piggy – I mean hope is hope. Yes, we could end up with Zach Wilson or maybe end up with C.J. Stroud. I don’t want to settle though, if he can’t take that next step and we’re going to lose the division crown every season because he can’t step up and play better, or can’t compete in a playoff game because our QB can’t play better, I’d rather try again to find one that can. That’s the difference right there.
Need to be drafting and grooming. Unless you have a bona-fide elite QB you should be doing that every year. Odds are, eventually you should at least stumble upon one. This is the NQBL now.
honestly Mike
looking at this years prospects, I’m not sure any of them, including Caleb Williams, will be any better than Tua
Tua is probably better than the vast majority of QBs we wil see drafted in the next couple of years
I’m sure there were people who said the same about C.J. Stroud. Anthony Richardson and Bryce Young. Stroud looks great, Richardson showed promise before the injury, but Young looked meh. It doesn’t matter anyway, you have to keep going for it.
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and that’s a good thing
Rock – It’s not my ass that’s myopic. It’s not just great defenses, it’s any complete team with a winning record. You think BUF had a great defense? Anyway, you have to be able to compete with teams that have great defenses too. Brock Purdy played the same great KC defense in the SB and he played awesome. Tua never does that.
Never usually believe Kiper but in his latest 2 round mock he has the Dolphins taking Edge Jared Verse from FSU and at #55 Guard Christian Haynes.
I could actually live with that.
Do you think realistically he lasts that long? (Verse)
According to FootballScoops, the Dolphins are adding former Wisconsin Badgers senior offensive assistant Rob Everett to the team’s coaching staff.
Another top 30 visit. Two draft boards have him as a 2nd round pick. Seven boards have him as a 3rd round pick and one a 4th round pick.
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According to NFL Network insider, Tom Pelissero, the Miami Dolphins have scheduled a visit with University of Kansas pass rusher, Austin Booker. The visit will reportedly take place next week.
Not overly impressed. Seems like he hesitates a lot. Maybe that is just me.
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Somewhere between Ogbah and Phillips, without Phillips’ speed
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The Dolphins have Picks 21 and 55 in the NFL Draft. It’s a coincidence, but the Chiefs drafted Trent McDuffie and Rashee Rice in those exact slots, with picks obtained in the Tyreek Hill trade.
in Tua’s rookie season he was 5-3 against good teams
2021 4-2
2022 4-5
2023 2-5
15-15 overall
Last year we were injured ridden during the stretch run, including Waddle and Hill
This BS about him not being able to beat good teams is just that
In a season where you get 9 home games, go 8-1 at home and 4-4 on the road gets you to 12-5 and likely a division title
In a season where you go 8-1 against avg/below avg teams and 4-4 against good teams nets you the same result
Does Tua need to play better against good teams? Of course, hasn’t been a disaster either like some say he has
Should we give him that 50m per year contract? Of course not, it is however what 90% of NFL teams will do
What we should do is give him what he wants annually, but with team favorable terms, with outs and back loaded
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Do you think realistically he lasts that long? (Verse)
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Don’t ask me, ask his girlfriend…
Seriously, not only us but all these draft guru’s are having a difficult time projecting the second half of the 1st round except for a couple teams. With top offensive players (QB, WR and OL) dominating the top half of the first round, it is really hard to judge who is there at 21 or not. If verse doesn’t, someone else will be there.
Many project just 2 of the top 3 (Turner, Verse, Latu) edge go before we pick. One could very well be there.
If Austin Booker is our second round pick with out trading down, I will be disappointed.
Two of them Dolphins and we let them walk.
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Steve – For fucks sake!!! Tua is 5-12 the last 2 seasons against winning teams with this offense and coach. That’s all that matters. IDGAF what he did in Pee Wee Football, High School, Alabama, none of it.
The biggest thing for me, besides the losses, is he hasn’t been good in any of these games. He doesn’t give us a shot to win.
Cherry picking, of course
Do you know what cherry picking even is? These are games played with this current roster, and Head Coach. Nothing else is relevant or more important.
If you went into a job interview, and they asked your current boss at your job that you work for how you were doing, and you sucked the last 2 years, you think he’s going to give a flying fuck what you did before with a different boss?
Now you’re contradicting yourself
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WOW! I’m surprised nobody has responded to this. We’re obviously kicking the tires on FA pass-rushers prior to the Draft.
Of course. We have to so not to throw the season away before it’s too late.
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Well, if our DC is actually going to play 3 safety looks a lot, it follows that you want safeties who can cover over big hitters. That would suggest they look more at FS. I can’t say what they feel they have in house and what weakness they may want to address. I don’t care if they draft a safety in the first. It’s not what I’d do, but I understand the need and the impact a really good safety can have. Or, do they draft a corner who can play safety? Such as…ahem…Cooper DeJean! I think DeJean could develop into a Harrison Smith type. He played safety early in his career.
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Man, almost every year there’s a player that I REALLY dig (where’s Diggs been?) from Iowa. That program is SOLID, and as you could guess, I really like Cooper DeJean.
My preference would be to NOT take a Safety in the 1st round this year, but DeJean does rock. My guy is Kam Kinchens out of the U, and I feel he could play either SS or FS… and a BALL HAWK!!!
Maybe it’s just me, but I see a lot of Reshad Jones in his game.
And yes (as always), these are only his highlights. I think his game tape checks out, despite a poor Combine showing. It wouldn’t hurt my feelings to take him in the 2nd round.
Tim,
This one is for you. Have ya seen this? DAYUM!
Hammerheads are amazing creatures and hunters. They are friggin radar machines.
Where is the banana? We need a banana for scale! Amateur! LOL
No really, there is nothing in the shot to judge the sharks size by. I have seen them many times, but from the boat and eye to eye in while Scuba and that one looks average.
**BOTH from the boat…
So Count Chocula himself believes Jared Verse will fall to us @ R1P21? LOL
At least he’s in the ballpark with Christian Haynes to us @ R2P55.
LOL at Count Chocula! 😂
Didn’t they pretty much have to make some sort of move to bring in a center? It’s not like they were gonna draft one and throw a rookie in there with no viable Veteran option. Besides, we’ve seen them make moves like this before and then draft the position. It’s not like we locked down the position with that signing.
Good point. They targeted Brewer for their system and Eichenberg is the backup.
Steve – How about I make it simple for you. Take Justin Herbert for example. He’s got a new HC in Jim Harbaugh. If Harbaugh comes in and gets Herbert playing well, is anyone going to be talking about what he did his rookie season, or 3 years ago, or even two years ago anymore? I’ll help you because you seem to struggle with the concept. No, no one will care about any of that, it’s just what he did with his current Head Coach, and the new offense. The other stuff is irrelevant. Same for Tua.
Yes, thats correct, if he had won an SB in his 3rd season (they got screwed against Jags) no one would ever bring it up again, got it
He got paid off of what he did his1st 3 yrs, so no relevance what so ever
You’re so pigeon holed with Tua, give it up already, we know your stance
^^ THIS +100000000000000000000
Hard to believe we won’t bring in at least 2 more Edge, based on what we did for the playoff game
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Mahomes and Allen went 11-6 last year, same as Tua.
Andy Reid as HC > MM. So Tua is 0-1 in the playoffs.
Diggs bailed out Allen until he couldn’t
then called him out and got traded for his honesty.
I understand your point; I just think you’re overstating it.
I think Tua WAS able to raise those around him, but there’s only so much a QB can do with Both the 31st OL and no TE1. Smythe is a 5th round backup and Hill is a UDFA from Nowhere College.
The teams that beat us including Tennesse out coached us by overplaying Hill and Waddle and trampling our pass blockers and stoning our smurf runners.
with no TE and no WR3 Tua was forced into desperate tight windows nearly every time against the great HCs.
not to mention our pass D forced the least tight windows thus keeping the pressure on our offense.
you’re correct that Tua is not as athletic a scrambler as many QBs, and maybe that’ll be what keeps him from winning a SB … similar to Marino.
What say you? Mike E is wrong? NO!!!!
Mike E with his “Tua can’t beat good teams bone:
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lol…beautiful Rotty
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▪ Seeking a veteran pass rusher, the Dolphins brought Carl Lawson to team headquarters for a visit on Wednesday. The 265-pound defensive end/outside linebacker had seven sacks for the Jets in 2022, but played just 101 defensive snaps (and had five tackles) in six games for the Jets last season.
Lawson, 28, spent the first four years of his career with Cincinnati, where he had 20 sacks in 51 games and 14 starts. He spent the past two years with the Jets.
Sign him, so we don’t have to use 21 on DE/OLB
We won’t be signing anyone likely until after 6/1. Per OTC we have 3.1 million in cap space. Spotrac says 4.2 million but does not have Tart’s contract reflecting yet. Though Tart got the same contract basically as De’Shawn Hand and only affected the top 51 by about 200K so I don’t know where the 900K difference comes from. They are never the same for what ever reason.
Anyway, our top 2 draft picks will likely affect the top 51 by about 2 million. That does not leave much to sign any FA like Carl Lawson and/or a WR until 6/1.
Lawson is coming off a 3 year 45 million dollar contract. Not sure what he will command right now.
They’ll say we signed…then it won’t hit the cap until 6/1
Looking at our top 51 cap, you could make a case for all of them making the final 53, and 10 more guys below top 51 and at least 2 draft picks, that gives us 63 players worthy of an NFL roster
We’re deep and have stars
We had more stars last year, weren’t as deep, but the injury bug squashed us
Rock and anyone else who can’t see Tua struggles in big games
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No one is denying he struggled last year when comp got tough, but he’s .500 for his career for various reasons, some of which are out of his control
He is .642 not .500 unless you are counting the nebulous “good teams” only.
LOL not in denial. Just don’t agree with your chicken little opinion. The sky is NOT falling, there is NO PROOF that he CANNOT win against “Good teams” You cannot even tell me definitively what a “good team” is.
Does a “Good team” lose to the Broncos after we creamed the Broncos with 70 points? Said “good team” also lost to the Bills & Eagles just like us but they also lost to the Broncos and the Raiders who we beat.
The only reason they beat us in Germany was because Hill fumbled a catch that was run back for a TD, otherwise the outcome of that game would be in our favor most likely.
I will say it again so maybe it will filter through your preformed set in stone judgment ALL QB’s struggle more against the better teams. ALL. OF. THEM. PERIOD! IT is because they are better teams!!
I can spend the next hour posing the wins and losses of the “elite” QBs to prove my point (I did so weeks back) but you will just ignore facts and believe your gut regardless so I think I will just take the easier rout and just ridicule you whenever you bring it up.
Mike E = the new ORob
Was thinking the same thing, but wasn’t going there lol
Just was reading OJ Simpson died today.
He should have died by lethal injection in 1995 Good riddance!
Agreed….and said the same thing to everyone who told me yesterday…lol
Or I guess it was yesterday? Not staying that tuned in. Doesn’t seem right to say RIP about someone who I believe got away with murder and never showed any remorse. But no denying he was a great football player. I’ll leave it at that.
The “Great” Josh Allen who Mike E has a chubby for lost to the Jets, Jags, Bengals, Broncos, Eagles But those must be “Bad teams” because well, you know, the bills lost to them….
and Brock Purdy did well but he had Kittle to bail him out. Mahomes had Kelce.
now we have Jonnu who ranked right up there with those 2 so maybe Tua will have somewhere to throw besides first read.
Also when Purdy and Mahomes took off to scramble there were lanes and space When Tua tried to run, there were hands on him and headhunters waiting for him because our OL eliminated almost no one.
Rock – For a guy who reads a lot, your reading comprehension sucks. Winning teams = Teams with winning records. I’ve defined it so many times here, you just either don’t want to see it, or missed it.
Rob-E, so it is your steadfast opinion that it is better for a QB to lose to “losing teams” than winning teams? That is what your silly ass argument boils down to. It is a ridiculous stance to take so vehemently . Take a moment, breath and think before you reply.
then of course by your reckoning you have to throw out the first win or loss of the year because the opponent hasn’t won or loss yet…
Rock – I can see you’re just being a dick, but I’ll play along because it’s fun. One would deduce that winning teams are better teams, and therefore, more difficult to defeat. So no, I won’t be happy to lose to shitty teams, but his record against winning teams is disturbing, because in order to advance in the playoffs good sir, you have to defeat winning teams, and he struggles.
Just wondering how long this discussion will last? It seems to me that everyone has made their points and it’s a merry go round now. Nothing will change until we go further in the playoffs.
Tim, that applies to ALL discussions on this board. So, to answer your question directly, when some other discussion takes it’s place or until Mike stops posting about it. LOL
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April 11, 2024 at 3:04 pm
The “Great” Josh Allen who Mike E has a chubby for lost to the Jets, Jags, Bengals, Broncos, Eagles But those must be “Bad teams” because well, you know, the bills lost to them….
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Yeah but, Zach Wilson beat the Bills, Eagles, Texans, Broncos and only lost to the Chiefs by 3 points.
Wilson vs Chiefs – 28-39 for 245, 2 TD, 0 INT, 105.2 rating
Tua (1st game) vs Chiefs – 21-34 for 197, 1 TD, 0 INT, 87.0 rating
I won’t post comparison stats on the Bills and Eagles games because it won’t fit my narrative. 🙂
One of the narratives that annoys me is that QBs win football games by themselves.
True
😂🤣 EXACTLY it will go against your narrative!
Steve, I agree. We could come to an agreement with a player but not put pen to paper until 6/1.