By: Randy Campbell (Old Dolfan)
GAME 3: OCTOBER 1, 1972 – MIAMI at MINNESOTA
The NFL schedule makers provided few favors for the Miami Dolphins during the early portion of The Perfect Season. Week #1 featured a date with the very powerful winners of Super Bowl IV, the Kansas City Chiefs, at brand new Arrowhead Stadium. After a week #2 game at the Orange Bowl against Houston. The schedule makers sent Miami back on the road to play one of the strongest teams in the NFC, the Minnesota Vikings. The Vikings were a franchise on the cusp of greatness. In January 1970 they advanced to Super Bowl IV as double-digit favorites to defeat the Chiefs. But, for the second straight season, the AFL representative conquered the NFL’s best. Vikings Hall of Fame head coach Bud Grant said,”Now I know how Don Shula felt when he lost the Super Bowl to the Jets.” Like Shula, Grant vowed to get back to the Super Bowl.
Indeed, Bud Grant would return. But, unlike Shula, Grant would never win pro football’s ultimate game. Four times during the decade of the ’70’s Grant would get his Vikings to the Super Bowl. Four times he would suffer the agony of defeat. However, from the late ’60’s through the late ’70’s, the Vikings were among the very best franchises in the NFL. The 1972 Minnesota Vikings were loaded with Hall of Fame talent. The defense, known as the “Purple People Eaters” (after the Vikings bright purple jerseys) had Carl Eller, Jim Marshall and 
Alan Page, who would go on to be a Minnesota state supreme court justice after a stellar NFL career. The offensive line was anchored by huge rookie tackle Ron Yary (a future HOF inductee) and by Mick Tinglehoff, one of the leagues’s best centers for over a decade and a likely future Hall of Famer. Brute strong fullback Bill Brown was Minnesota’s featured running back. Receivers Gene Washington and speedy John Gilliam were legitimate deep threats. But the man who made Minnesota go, their prodigal son, Fran Tarkenton, had just returned to Minnesota after five solid years with the Giants. It was 
Tarkenton who had taken this franchise to prominence when he quarterbacked this team from 1961 to 1966. In 1972 he left the Giants toreturn home — to the absolute delight of hard core Viking fans. By the time he retired, Tarkenton would own many all-time NFL passing records, including most career yards passing (47,003) and most career touchdown passes (342). His records would stand for over 20 years until broken by Dan Marino. Simply put, these Vikings were a dominant football team, especially at home. The prior week, Minnesota crushed the Detroit Lions 34-10. Thus, it was little wonder the Vikings were a touchdown favorite over the visiting Dolphins.
The game started poorly for the undefeated Miami team. Just over four minutes into the game an amazed Tarkenton saw an unguarded John Gilliam wide open down the field. “Tarks” 56-yard bomb was right on target and the Vikings had an early 7-0 lead. This could have started the Dolphins downfall. But, it didn’t. Miami receiver Marlin Briscoe, traded to the Dolphins from Buffalo for a first round draft choice, said,”if this was Buffalo, the first thing we’d do is PANIC!! Then, we’d throw the bomb. Our quarterback would get sacked and the game would be over. But things are different here in Miami. We knew, deep in our hearts, we’d win!” Bob Griese’s calm deliberate approach failed to produce results. But Miami’s “No Name Defense” stood firm and the second quarter concluded with the score still stuck on 7-0.
The Dolphin’s offense began to show signs of life in the third quarter. Mixing passing and running plays, Griese twice got the Dolphins into Viking’s territory. The first drive produced a 38-yard Yepremian field goal. The next drive ended when the left-footed Cypriot connected on a 42-yard effort. Late in the third quarter Minnesota produced their first meaningful drive since scoring on a long bomb early in the game. But before the drive ended, the gun sounded ending the third quarter. Minnesota led 7-6 with one quarter to go. The Vikings concluded their drive with a 1 yard touchdown run by Bill Brown. Trailing 14-6 it appeared the Dolphins were going to lose their first game. Midway in the last quarter Miami took over on their own 20. An 18 yard pass, Griese to Morris, was followed by a double-reverse that culminated in Marlin 
Briscoe’s 22 yard pass to tight end Jim Mandich. A few plays later Garo Yepremian lined-up a 51 yard field goal attempt. If good, it would be the longest of his career! The ball just cleared the crossbar and the Dolphins now trailed by only 14-9. But it was late, very late.
Now, the “No Name Defense” had to stop the Vikings ONE MORE TIME! Two runs by Oscar Reed went nowhere! On third and long, Tarkenton’s pass was tipped away by Tim Foley! The Dolphins would have ONE FINAL CHANCE! The drive started on Miami’s 41. Morris’ run got only two yards. But on the next play the Vikes’ Bob Lurtsema hammered Griese with a late hit. The 15 yard penalty moved the ball to Minnesota’s 42. Expecting a pass, the Vikings dropped back into coverage. So Griese switched the call to an end sweep, resulting in a 14 yard scamper by Mercury Morris to the 28. In clutch situations, Griese liked to go to Howard Twilley, ashort, average speed receiver who NEVER seemed to drop a pass. Reliable Howard was true to form, catching two passes for 25 yards. The Dolphins were now 3 yards from victory. Everyone in Metropolitan Stadium was standing and screaming! Tight end Jim Mandich said “I thought we’d just pound the ball to Csonka with less than two minutes to go”…so did the Vikings. Instead, Griese faked a hand-off and threw a short pass to a totally wide open Jim Mandich for the winning touchdown! Fins Win 16-14! The Perfect Season was still alive!
Miami’s late drive for a touchdown grabbed the headlines. But, in truth, the “No Name Defense” was responsible for this upset victory. The “No Names” sacked the elusive Tarkenton five times. They intercepted Tarkenton three times, including a pick on Tarkenton’s desperate heave on the game’s last play. After giving up a 56 yard bomb on Tarkenton’s first pass, the “No Names” held Tarkenton to just 50 YARDS PASSING THE REST OF THE GAME!!! It was an awesome performance. In the post game locker room, Bud Grant told reporters, “There were no excuses, no breaks. They just beat us. At the end, they were stronger than we were.” In Miami’s locker, Shula said, “We take great pride in our conditioning. Today I believe it made a difference.”
Finsmob Unleashed 
I HOPE ALL of you enjoy this little story about the ’72 Dolphins SECOND upset road victory in three weeks during THE PERFECT SEASON.–And focus on Shula’s locker room comment: “We take great pride in our conditioning. Today, we believe it made a difference.” –Instead of BLOWING 4th quarter leads, these Dolphins overwhelmed VERY GOOD TEAMS late in the game because of their superior conditioning.
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I hope all of you fine folks have a terrific day. –I’ll be back on this board after work. –GO FINS!!
It’s Wednesday that means the ’72 Fins are whooping someone’s ass again.
If the
Seahawks ran the ballPats lost the SB Belicheat would have been tied with Bud Grant and Marv Levy for most SB loses by a coach.The conditioning lies mostly at the feet of the players now, there is only so much the coaching staffs can do now-a-days with the players because of collective bargaining. They have very limited practice now compared to when Shula coached especially early on.
What do the players do all day if they aren’t practicing?
Play backgammom and pokemon
Drop X and sodomize woman
Shave their heads and get tattoos
smoke weed and play Madden
Great story OD
As expected!
Long live the ’72 Dolphins ….Oinkers to the end!
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Paint with water colors and eat sawdust
Drag woman into elevators and make kids ball sacks bleed
let air out of footballs and dance really weird
expand their foreheads and appear on SNL
Shove hamsters up their butts while their coach sucks their toes.
Gain 15 lbs of muscle they will never use, as they sit out 6 weeks of the regular season.
Steal Grandma’s money so they can make it rain for the corn-fed girls of Indianapolis.
Good morning people. Tough day yesterday. We went live with the “new’ software program for everything we do in Optical and contact lenses, and it is significantly worse than the old program. The only benefits I can see at the moment are for the people who work in the billing department, but for those of us who have to navigate this program, it’s a horror show until we get used it, and by used it, I mean, I suppose if if someone flayed the skin off one of your fingers every day, you can probably get used to that too. Drives me crazy that people who work in Lenscrafters and Costco tell me how simple it is to put an order into their system, and now we this to deal with. For a few
hoursminutes there I almost felt like quitting.LOl its cause your old. Half the 70+ year old nurses in our hospitals wanted to quit when they had to use “this new fangled computery system”. LOL, dont worry man your retirement day will be here soon enough … 🙂
Oh and condolences….. 😛
No, it really isn’t. You’d have to see it to see what I mean. I’ll give you a quick example. Someone from outside the practice comes in (Meaning a patient examined by a doctor not from our practice) walks into our store, and just wants to know some prices before they order something. I would have to register them, which means getting a shit ton of info from them, and register them in a different program, just so they would be populated into my new program. Then, I’d have to actually put an order in (there is no price search function on this program, and putting an order in now requires putting info into numerous screens, and then, finally, I’d have a price. If the person is till alive by that time, and they decide they need to drink some water or eat, since it’s been 3 days since they first asked, I have to delete everything I just did, except the registration part, which really, is unnecessary for what we do in Optical. IT SUCKS!!! I learned the last program very quickly, and I was considered one of the most proficient with it in our company. This one smells, BAD!
Go see their sister “The Amazing Squirtestra” perform live in Veags…..
Mail 1000’s of individual “fuck messages” to their former boss, on University of Michigan letterhead.
Mike E. says:
February 18, 2015 at 9:44 am
No, it really isn’t. You’d have to see it to see what I mean.
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LOL i was just yanking your chain man, lol it doesn’t shock me in the least to hear that story. What ya have there is programmers “designing” things. Is this a smaller company, and have they ever sent people out to your facility to observe day to day functions? Sounds like they let the programmer who knows dick about your day to day, choose how the functions operate and the flow of the menu’s. Definately sounds like they are missing user input on their design. I once had to break it down to a few of our programmers how things work at a hospital, because they were liek “well the just have to do this this this and this” and i was like, dude, they do this shit 500 times a day, its gotta be one click or they are going to lose their shit lol. To them, that design you see makes sense lol. Sad but true. See below.
This diagram is pretty dead on accurate. If you really want to know what went down, it’s this. The new Practice Administrator used to be the head of the billing department, and she, as opposed to the President of the optical company I work for, most likely chose this program, because on the billing end, it’s much more accurate and easier for them to tie the programs together, BUT, for us on the business end, it’s a nightmare. They are trying now to tailor this garbage to our needs, but the program itself is so far off the mark. Way too many steps to complete the simplest of things.
Mike you guys need to add a fake customer to the system that you can pull up just for pricing info and the like. Mary Jane Rottencrotch for woman and Heywood Jablowme for the men. Then when you just need prices you pull one of them up.
Make sure oyu print out the quote too so they get a copy of it with their customer name on it lol.
Absolutely and don’t forget to have the name of the support person on there : Ariel Douchebag
LMAO!!!
I was thinking the same thing. Fucked up minds think alike. LOL
I’ve thought of that, but they don’t want us to generate orders and delete them. Frankly, I don’t know what the fuck they expect us to do at this point. Tomorrow is NOT going to be fun.
OK, let’s get back to talking about Chad Henne. This is getting me aggravated. lol
It pisses Chad off to have to enter every receivers name into the system before practice…doh
LMAO!! Noooooooooooooo
Mesmerized in mindless amazement.
Cro-magnon man…
“Henne not know.” “Henne only pawn in game of life”
“Telegram for Mongo!”
Shit- it’s “Candygram for Mongo”. I haven’t watched the movie in a few years, like 40, so cut me some slack.
I’ve always wanted to be Gloria Allred.
LOL, nasty
Dude has my vote for “his shit be twisted” and that can be taken in a lot of ways with him right now.
Bat should just appear when the Henne picture is displayed
He lurks in the shadows, how are you certain he isnt already here…..dun dun dunnnnnnn
OD,
Thanks for the stories! Every blog should have a resident historian.
Ok, I survived. It was one of the better concerts I have been to, for the following reasons:
1. This particular arena has great sight lines, so the only thing blocking the stage views were speaker and light assemblies.
2. I knew all but maybe 2 songs.
3. Christie McVie is on the tour, which makes it feel more authentic.
4. Each member, with the exception of John McVie, told a story or 2 that was interesting, from their historical perspective.
5. The sound was really good- not blaring or muted/muffled.
6. They actually sounded really good. The only song they keyed down was “Go Your Own Way”. Their voices were solid.
7. They did a solid 2h 15m set.
8. Wife had a great time, which was the most important part. She even got at shirt! Lol
Sounds good Try! Has Christie McVie been out of the group for a while? I had no idea.
She took 16 years off from the band, from what Stevie Nicks said.
See you got yourself all worked up about nothing. You did the right thing by looking at it for your wife’s enjoyment. Glad you had a good time.
I am a bit of a “whiney-vaginey”, aren’t I?
It’s cool at this point I would have been just as leery of a Fleetwood mac concert
Yeah Christie McVie left the band along time ago. The band as a whole has broken up a few times.
I had no idea. Not that I was really paying attention. The last CD I bought was Tango in the Night, and that was late 80’s.
They talked about that a bit, too. Lindsey Buckingham said “Big Love” was a time when things we rough and that he was a bit full of himself at that time (paraphrasing).
Interesting stuff Try. I liked FM, especially the “Rumours” album. I kinda got into other music, so the other albums they put out i didn’t buy, until they came back with TITN.
I suppose Tusk was my favorite, as far as that goes.
But there has been several iterations of the band, including Bob Welch who left around the time Buckingham-Nicks joined the band.
I like Bob Welch – “Sentimental Lady”, and “Ebony Eyes”
Good memory!
Not that good Try – I didn’t even know he was in Fleetwood Mac. lol
I knew Sentimental Lady, but forgot about Ebony Eyes.
Try – Both of those songs are on my iPod
I have SL on my playlist.
I’m loaded with 70’s music. I have an awful lot taking up space on my iPod. I love that stuff
Rumors was the only record I had from Fleetwood Mac and that was a cassette I recorded from a friend. They were played on the radio so much I never felt the need to buy their records.
I had to save my money for more music not played much on the radio like The Song Remains the Same, Yessongs, Yesshows etc. 🙂
That is an excellent reason!
Though Alan White is no Bill Bruford
Ebony Eyes was a cool song. Always liked the guitar riff in the beginning. I think he sounds a lot like Steve Miller in that song.
Now the next big concert at the KFC YUM! Center (seriously- that’s its name; I always thought we’d refer to it as “The Bucket”, but that hasn’t seemed to take off-yet!):
Kenny Chesney.
I will not be in attendance.
Try, ever hear Bill Bruford’s One of a KInd?
I can’t say that I have- to my memory. I’ve listened to his King Crimson stuff, and various other things, but that does not sound familiar.
Treat yourself to it. You can probably find it on YouTube. One of my favorite records of all time. It’s instrumental.
Percussion: Bill Bruford
Guitar: Alan Holdsworth
Bass: Jeff Berlin
Keyboards: Dave Stewart
THE Dave Stewart? Annie Lennox/Eurythmics Dave Stewart?
I probably know the songs if I heard it but not familiar with Bob Welch.
You would, no doubt.
Ebony Eyes
To whomever manages this website,
It is incredibly frustrating to go through 4-5 steps just to post a comment in here because of what I perceive to be lazy coding.
There should be a link to log in directly on every blog entry at the bottom and at the top of the page instead of only seeing the option only after clicking into the “leave a reply” field.
The logic is fucked up to say the least.
Right now I have to do the following in order to post a comment/reply:
Step 1 – Click on comment/reply field.
Step 2 – Log in by clicking the WordPress icon which appears only when you are inside the comment/reply field.
Step 3 – Hit refresh or back key on the browser to get back into the blog entry because the comment/reply field returns an error saying “you must be logged in to post comment” or something to that effect (IMO because the validation order in code is crap).
Step 4 – Click on comment/reply field again to make comments/replies.
Clearly there is redundancy in a process that should only be Step 1 – log in, STep 2 click on comment/reply field to post comment.
Ok, that is all.
🙂
I agree, but I didn’t want to be jerk. JK/BB LOL
After I sign in, I have to type a character in the field and click post to get ‘you must be logged in’ message, then I can post the next time.
OK, I think Herd knows how to fix that.
Trypod,
lol @ KFC center…
Well, yea the YUM! part is obviously the ownership group (Yum! Brands Inc).
Wiki Entry for Yum!:
Yum! Brands, Inc., or Yum!, is an American fast food company. A Fortune 500 corporation, Yum operates the licensed brands Taco Bell, KFC, Pizza Hut, and WingStreet worldwide. Prior to 2011, Yum! also owned Long John Silver’s and A&W Restaurants.
Based in Louisville, Kentucky, it is the world’s largest fast food restaurant company in terms of system units—more than 40,000 restaurants around the world in over 125 countries.[3] In 2013, Yum!’s global sales totaled more than US$13 billion.
Yeah, I work about 2 miles from their corporate headquarters. What’s funny is I also live about 3 miles from Papa John’s corporate hq. No need to wonder why Kentucky is one of the most obese states- most of the crap comes from here!
Yum is KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, and until recently it also owned A&W and Long John Silvers, plus PepsiCo, if I remember correctly. A lot of bad calories came/come from this place.
“D.J. Humphries, OT, Florida:
Which offensive lineman will leave the Indianapolis with significantly improved draft grades? I’d gamble on D.J. Humphries of Florida. I presently grade Humphries as a 3rd rounder, earlier than most, but the feeling is he could move even higher with a good combine performance. Scouts believe Humphries is one of the most athletic tackles in this years class and holds as much upside as any of the top rated blockers. Playing the year at 280-pounds, he presently tips the scales at just over 300-pounds and is being tutored by former New York Giant offensive lineman William Roberts. Expect not only good testing marks from Humphries but a solid performance in position drills as his ability to effortlessly move about the field and change direction will surely impress. ” – Walterfootball.
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Obviously a guy i like, but he is a natural LT in a ZBS system. Im hoping this guy is wrong and he stays where he is slotted which on average is probably around 4th round. Given our draft falling the right way we would be pretty smart to take him in the 4th, potential backup to Albert and/or fill in while he is out.
I think KFC sucks. Their chicken is wet/slimy and makes me feel ill after I eat it.
Friends and I joke about how you feel the lost souls of genetically mutated chickens in your stomach. LOL
I’ve been going to popeyes lately if I want fried chicken. Not often, but occasionally.
Same here.
Jeremiah Poutasi, OT, Utah:
Another junior offensive lineman I expect to leave the combine with a buzz is Utah junior Jeremiah Poutasi. The Utes starting left tackle the past two seasons after manning the right side as a freshman, most teams grade Poutasi at guard with some now referring to him as Mike Iupati Jr. I graded Poutasi as an early third round pick and have been told scouts rate him much higher than those on the outside (media).
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Also have my eye on this guy, remember someone else mentioning him, he falls like Humphries to me, 4th round steal.
The Phins are working on a new contract for Pouncey. Mando figure it would be in the range of the five-year for $44 mil that Maurkice got last year, which makes a lot of sense. Presumably If it is done they’ll substantially lower Pouncey’s cap number for next season.
Cue the hysteria and complaining. LOL
I’d fine with it, especially because five year contracts are really thee year minimum ones these days, and he’s already getting close to the average of that next year anyhow. So it’s really only two more years.
Try Pod says:
February 18, 2015 at 11:16 am
THE Dave Stewart? Annie Lennox/Eurythmics Dave Stewart?
No but we used to wonder the same thing when we first listened to the record.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Stewart_%28keyboardist%29
Very cool. Thanks for the link. I will look into this. Bru is one of my favorites. Some of the KC stuff could be esoteric and often too dissonant for me, so I’ve not been too keen on other projects of his. He made it a point to get further and further away from a “kit” as time went by, so I became less and less interested.
This is very melodic stuff played by excellent musicians. It’s from 1979 so it’s real drums and percussion. 🙂
Ali Marpet, G, Hobart:
After his sensational performance at the Senior Bowl a lot of eyes will be on Ali Marpet in Indianapolis. The Hobart product has been working with former All Pro Bob Whitfield, who’s taken to the small school lineman. I’m told teams are struggling how to grade Marpet and at what position. Most teams have listed him at guard or center, with a few slotting Marpet at the right tackle spot. Almost no one has listed him as a left tackle as arm length is a concern (calling Jeff Backus!). Expect Marpet to put up solid not sensational numbers this week (5-second forty, 30-reps on the bench). I’m told Hobart will try and hold their pro-day on March 26th, the same day Syracuse is hosting NFL teams. The plan is for Marpet to workout early in the morning before scouts make the one hour drive to Syracuse, who has denied Marpet the opportunity to participate in their pro-day.
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Another i like, similar round ranking with me. Sounds like scouts think he is a tweener, which isnt an awful thing for us since our coaches kinda want that versatility. Not sure though with scouts struggling to find him a box is all good though, because scouts are paid to find a person that fits their team in a specific way. Look at it two ways, 1) they arent sure he fits their need the way they need him to and are ont he fence, or 2 some teams are liking him so much they are tryingto see if they can fit him in the box they need. Either way i still like the guy, and would be happy seeing us land him in the 4th,
Sambrillo and Clemmings are dropping like a rock i read as well. I think Senior bowl actually hurt Clemmings, and the slide started there. He got owned in practices. Sambrillo is having the same concerns lashed his way. Dont know how hard they falls but its sounding more and more like this draft is going to be heaviest for OL in rounds 3-5, where most the players are grading out. Weak upper end OL group this year.
That’s not good for us……and I’ve read the FA Guard class ain’t much either.
Good lesson on letting it go.
http://news.yahoo.com/police-vegas-fatal-driving-lesson-shooting-case-225552691.html
Tim – That’s pretty sad.
Tim,
Lol @ that pic of Jenner.
Long gone are the Olympic glory days ….
The irony is that he may be serving jail time over that accident he was involved with.
If that’s the case, he’s going to be someones bitch in jail
Maybe he wants to be someones bitch so he can test out his new vagina.
lmfao
D,
I like Marpet alot. I don’t think there is a queston in my mind about what he is -> OG. In the NFL most OG can play C and C play OG. They are interchangeable positions in terms of blocking technique/skill. The only real difference is snap ability of course. I think the OT-OG differences come down to arm length as mentioned somewhere in the scouting report. You will always have your scouts/GM who want specific arm lengths (or min) for that position.
How come some images I post disappear and become little broken icons?
Probably because this website has a code that blocks male gay porn
Stanger,
This is considered a weak depth year for OG talent in the draft but i think there are some underrated value guys out there outside of the top 3.
D,
Speaking of Syracuse’s Pro Day, I’m keeping an eye on OL Sean Hickey. Projected as an OT at next level but maybe will be inside as OG.
I LOL’d at D’s graphic description of the software redesign. Been there.
It’s funny, at my new gig, they went to a new version of their software about a month before I was hired and all I hear is how everyone hates it, can’t do anything. For me, it’s all I’ve known here and I don’t have any problems. People actually ask me how to do this or that. Cracks me up.
People don’t like change.
stangerx says:
February 18, 2015 at 11:30 am
That’s not good for us……and I’ve read the FA Guard class ain’t much either.
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Actually i think there are 3-5 FA OG’s id be happy with us signing.
Maybe it is more the depth I was reading about, including how what is available in the draft. And hey — if there are three all we need is one……I’d be willing to pop out the big bucks to fill one spot and roll with what we have at the other.
Stanger,
In terms of the FA OG crowd….maybe the Fins get lucky with Daryn Colledge (re-signing him?). Colledge started off ok then dropped off dramatically but reports late last year suggest he was feeling ill effects of migraines/concussions from the Jags game for the rest of the season.
He’d be ok as depth i think, but i wouldn’t want him back with the intentions of him being our starter. He’s solid, but he had bad games before the concussion as well. We need better at that position.
For me, he’d be a good guy to have in the mix at one spot. but not someone to count on.
Wow this one mockster has us doubling up at CB in the top 4 rounds. I just cant see that. I think we do want to get a CB or S in top 4, possibly one of each but not 2.
Interesting stats from QAM.
Landry led the Phins with 84 receptions, which were good for 758 yards. The 9 yard per catch average ain’t impressive, but you have to factor in that 23 times he caught the ball behind the line of scrimmage.
PFF rated him the league’s 16th best overall receiver, also noting his strength as a run blocker. Wallace was 53rd and Hartline, 103rd.
Tim/Trypod,
I haven’t had Popeyes in a while (or KFC) but between the two franchises, I like the crispy chicken & seasoning better at Popeyes as well. I hear great things about Church’s Chicken but I don’t have any near me (used to growing up in Miami; there are a few in Miami still).
If I do fast food chicken, I usually will just stop by Chick-Fil-A. In a world of greedy corporate profits, there is something to be said about Chick-Fil-A continuing to close on Sundays to give all their employees the day off (I know it’s in the name of religious practices but it’s nice to see it as a general practice).
I don’t care about the morals of Chick-Fil-A, just that there chicken is good. LOL
Stanger,
Landry exceeded all expectations and has all the toughness you want in a receiver.
He pivots quickly and has nice quick short steps when accelerating and such which gives him the YAC you want out of a WR.
However, in the discussion of X WR and Mike Wallace, that he will never be.
He can’t burn top end WR over the top, he just doesn’t have those kind of wheels and that’s why the X receiver is different than other positions which don’t require you to put pressure on the safety over the top.
er, He can’t burn top end CB over the top that is (not WR as I erroneously typed).
And just to be clear, by ‘can’t’ i mean consistently.
There is no doubt that Wallace got the big bucks cause he demands respect deep in a way that Landry can’t. I want both, and boy would I love to add a TE who demands the same either by speed or size. I like Clay, but he’s not that player…..gets in done in different ways.
Herd,
Happens everywhere….People get accustomed to their routines and anytime they have to re-learn any process in their work flow.
er, anytime they have to re-learn any process in their work flow, they get upset.
Al i agree with what ya said, but you also do not have to have a traditional “X” receiver in offenses, and there are several offensive schemes, ours being one, that does not utilize/need one. We would be as good or better with a set of WR that mirrored each +/- in skillset. I do think it would be nice to have a larger target guy or two, just because it makes for a bigger/better target, but still similar skills. Thats primarily why i prefer Parker over White, and both over DBG, when if scored them on typical WR measurables, you probably would have to flip those rankings.
That was my initial thought on how this O would work. Three jack of all trades that can do it all even if they don’t excel in one area. Part of why I was surprised they went with Wallace.
Joe Biden, the creepy elitist who means no harm, yet other people get fired for saying shit like this. Also what is he whispering in her ear, your hair smells great, it that the case down below as well?
http://news.yahoo.com/just-biden-being-biden-vps-odd-moves-pause-225950916–politics.html
SMH.
Anyway, I lived briefly in the Wilmington area back in 2006. Never noticed a Somali community ANYWHERE so I question the ‘large’ aspect.
There is a definitely a noticeable african-american community there but no different to the degree you find neighborhoods like that in NJ in places such as Irvington, Patterson, Camden, & Trenton.
Wilmington has its good and bad parts but it goes from good to bad and vice versa in a quick half mile.
I’d be shocked if Biden embellished. No fuckin way! LOL
“I admire Bruce Jenner, I once had a vagina but I lost it in a bizarre gardening accident.”
– Brian Williams
Locking Pouncey in now and lowering the cap numbe rin 2015 would be a great move
Me likey
but 44M over 5 years doesn;t sound like much of a lowering of the cap #
I think what happens is fans are getting more opinionated about the cap and somehow want to add or keep good players but not pay them market value.
It is when you can restructure t in a way that most of it doesn’t happen this year. They also could take advantage of putting some of it off this year but saving some next year when Tanny’s gets renegotiated. Extending him lets us shift the monetary responsibilities around in a more friendly and future friendly way.
IT would in the first year at least. You give him his signing bonus on resign and then pay hi the NFL minimum. He’d pocket say $10-12 mil and his cap hit would be that divided by the years in the contract plus something under a mil. Might bring his $7-something down to say three.
Really, the thug, punk with no leadership and overrated? 😉
Thats what i was saying in my cap breakdown, months back. We really gotta get that done, and IMO we need to ask Wake to renegotiate too, and maybe Misi.
Probably Hartline too.
Tim,
Went to Popeye’s for lunch!
Al,
Went to Church’s in Perrine when I lived in Miami. It was good, from Edgar I remember. Also like Bojangles. My girls like Chik,fil-a. I used to really like their chicken sandwiches, but when a sandwich with 4 ounces of chicken costs $5+, I’ll do without. I do like that they close on Sunday, too. Religion not withstanding, I like the idea they are promoting family. I remember when stores were closed on Sunday. I think it was good.
From Edgar? Really?
How about “from what I remember.”
I had no idea WTF you were talking about. LOL
A lot of competition for chicken places around here, too. Kfc, Popeye’s, Chik-fil-a, Bojangles, Raisin’ Canes, Zaxby’s. It’s crazy, I tell you, CRAZY! lol
Pouncey’s cap number now is around 7.5
It’s sounds to me like it will be about the same
Maybe a little less
It’s not like we are opening up a lot of cap room no matter how they structure it
I guess we will see the details eventually
Regardless
I’m glad that they lock him up long term and I look forward to his next series of “your sister squirts” jokes…lol
🙂
Never underestimate SuperDawn. Wallace’s average salary is $12 mil per year……his cap hit year on was $3.25 mil.
Okay, getting hungry. Haven’t had one of these in awhile and I think I will today.
Guess you already know you are done when the oinking comes.
I think Piggy may not care since the bacon product may not be real pork LOL
Not real bacon
I would know him
Hey, just catching up here….
OD, congrats for pushing the Phins to a 2nd straight 72 road win. Great stuff.
Mike E, enjoy the SW upgrade from Atari to Xbox.
Son, great analogies on how today’s players spend their time ‘not’ training.
Try, good post concert review on Fleetwood Mac.
Al, nice complaint, next time try being a lil more patient.
Stanger, good stuff on #14, Go Landry!
D, nice scouting reports as usghe.
Tim, I see you’re still keeping us up with the daily debauchery on Jenner & Biden.
Trypod,
Bojangles! Haven’t had that in forever but I remember the spicy chicken was spicy!
I would like to revisit a location sometime (non around me anymore) 🙂
As for the Edgar comment….
Made it sound like Edgar was some cook providing you his special sauce LOL
Pouncey isn’t worth 5 yr $44M….and remember he wants us to sign his buddy Mike Lupati too.
I want to sign Mike Iupati as well!
Franklin & Lupati are gonna get big money offers….I still maintain I like the fallback option of LG Clint Boling.
They at least thought he was worth $7.5 this year. And my guess is that Pouncey who will grab the biggest signing check he can get and a big total brag number in exchange for some serious backloading.
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The cap savings for cutting Finnegan is over 5M
for elleberee is over 5M too
and Gibson is over 3M
I would start with those 3
its about 14M in savings
I might cut Misi too (2.7M)
then I would think about renogiating with Hartline and wake
I think there is 15M – 20M in davings for us without losing much production
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I still don’t understand why he stayed on the division, unless it was to try to get even with Belichik.
GDP
He will probably get the same kind of money Pouncey will make
IMO he deserves to be one of tyhe highest paid OG in the game
I would rather spend big $ on a stud
then overpaying guys that are simply upgrades
I’m sure we can get 2 UFA witht he same $
But what if those UFA end up being Wheeler and ellerbee
I would rather pay one LB 10M than those two guys 5M a piece
same concept
if you are going to overpay, at least overpay for quality
Boling is quickly becoming a stud, he’s solid, durable and just 25yo and I feel more suited for ZBS.
Pig,
Make Ellerbe and Hartline the two pre-June 1 cuts allowed, clears $14.4M in cap.
Cut Finnegan, Gibson, Garner, which clears another $10.4M.
After June 1 cut Wheeler, that clears another $3M.
This gives us abbot $29.5M
I don;t know if I am okay cutting Hartline right now
the WR group might be in transition and we might need him
If you cut Hartline and Gibson
that means you are stuck with wallace doesn’t
we might have to keep Hartline while we dangle Wallace as trade bait
other than that I agree
None of those guys are giving us a ton of production
I think we’re stuck with Wallace for 2015, then dump him…right now he’s in the cheapest year of salary that we’ve had him.
Let’s squeeze another 10 TD’s out of him while drafting his eventual replacements.
I’d also keep Misi 1 more year.
Regarding Mike Pouncey’s potential new deal….
Maurkice Pouncey deal was negotiated around what Alex Mack got with the Browns.
Both have similar guaranteed money in their deals (~26 mill in guaranteed money).
5 year 42-44 mill is what Maurkice & Alex Mack have on paper (top 2 paid Centers in the NFL).
Mack didn’t structure his deal with a signing bonus but he got $10 mill in his first year as base salary; $8 mill base paid in YR 2; $8 mill in YR 3 ($26 mill guaranteed out of the $42 mill deal; $16 mill not guaranteed).
Maurkice got a $13 mill signing bonus then YR 1 base salary = $1 mill; YR 2 = $1.75; YR 3 = $3.5 mill and two roster bonuses -> YR 2 = 3.75; YR 3 = 3.75 ($26.5 mill guaranteed out of the $44 mill deal; ~$17.5 mill not guaranteed).
As I’ve said before, total numbers mean dick since a sizeable amount of total money is usually not guaranteed. The length of contract is usually just a means to split up the bonus money as much as possible.
Most teams opt to backload contracts meaning they will defer the guaranteed portion of base salary away from the first year and push it out to Years 2 and 3 disproportionately.
This is always to allow room in the current year and they can continue to play that game with other FA the following year and rolling out expenses into the future to address current cap needs.
Pig,
By restructuring Pouncey’s and Fields’ the right way, we could free up an additional $4-5M.
All total could put us close to $35M under the Cap before we even know what the new Cap number will be when they increase it.
So the Phins could be players in FA to help get this team to the playoffs.
Other side of that are Odrick and Clay though, but then they can be restructured first year cap cheap too. Don’t want to push too much off though. Our years of a cheap Tanny will come to an end and we have to be prepared.
The one thing about Wendy’s is that their food quality is pretty good and I don’t feel like shit after eating it. The bacon is real by the way, and it’s spectacular. 🙂
lol, bacon is really thin :(.
On a burger I’m fine with that.
Bacon from legless piglets high on antibiotics & hormones….no wonder Bruce Jenner eats a lot of bacon.
his name was Gustav you asshole not “the bacon”
LOL
Piggy,
The other factor in the cap situation is that the NFL has not yet announced the 2015 cap figure (based on 2014 year league revenue which includes the SB).
The NFLPA says it was going to give their own projection on Feb 17 (yesterday) based on a public statement made on Jan 29.
That didn’t happen yet (NFLPA announcement on their cap projection).
They don’t agree on the NFL’s initial projection of 138-142 mill and neither do I.
Back in November, there was a report the new cap might be between 155-160 mill for 2015.
I’m guessing it will be north of 148 and am thinking it will be 150 at least which will give the Fins more room to operate even after shedding what is owed on current deals to Ellerbe, Starkes, Finnegan, etc.
This is the first year the NFLPA will announce their own projection.
They are upset that the NFL has continuously low balled the number ahead of the new fiscal year so that owners can have an advantage on renegotiating or negotiating new contracts ahead of that time.
Starks?
You throwing him in the cut group
He’s not worth 6 mill…resign at lower price or GTFO!
Amen!
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OD – Thanks again for this great story! Love reading these, because you really do a great job of taking us right back to that time.
Stanger,
Clay will be worth his value if not more….
Odrick, eh, kinda limited …hasn’t proven his worth as a 4-3 DT/DE but has value as a 3-4 DE.
Only thing that may limit Clay’s overall worth is his medical history but teams take chances on things like that all the time.
Clay will be good value for the money. I want either Odrick or Starks back, but I’m with you that probably means Starks (even if hopefully for less money).
GDP,
Lol, is that an invitation for Richie in Buffalo? :P.
Rex Ryan always provides good drama
getterdone says:
February 18, 2015 at 1:12 pm
Franklin & Lupati are gonna get big money offers….I still maintain I like the fallback option of LG Clint Boling.
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I like the idea of a young guy with upside that is going to give better at the position. Overpaying is not my thing but i do think ya have to think about it. One of the biggest and most important places is the inside of your OL, especially in this day of beastmode DL’s. Currently, the market though hast caught up for those guys, top paid OG’s get 6-6.5 mil. So if you take the top FA guy and pay him like one of the top guys, its a 6-7mil a year contract max. Lock him in now to a 5 year deal, and when the market catches up (promise you its going to) you have your guys locked down already. Right now is the time to strike at OG. If you think Boling is going to give that i say lock the dude down, he is young will grow with the team, its probably a nice match. I just dont know if i am as certain about him as i would be someone like Iupati. I do think id hold him in higher regard than Franklin, who i also dont think is going to get top top dollar.
James Carpenter is also a guy, i like. He is probably number 2 guy in terms of my confidence in his ability.
Good size and stamina?
This was the point I was making earlier. Fans want to sign and keep players but don’t want to pay the market value. How does anyone here know what is over-paying?
To me i look at it as if i was going to make an offer to someone to come work for my company. What i offer him is going to be based off how good they are, specifically in regards to tasks strongly related to out position, and what the market looks like for other who may also fill my needs. If that person is a gem in a pile of terds, and my competition is high, im probably going to make the maximum offer within the limits im given for hiring someone. If my best isn’t as good or better than someones, so be it, and if my best is above what any other offered, so be it. There was no over pay there. Only condition that i think would be an overpay, would be if, with no limits set, i offered something in extreme excess of what the market justifies and hinder myself making offers to fill other positions of need. By that i mean that if applicant 2 is only slightly off applicant 1, but i can retain him for less (be it lesser work experience, or whatever), and he still presents the potential to reach the same levels, i probably go with that guy and save some money for the other positions. Its balancing act, and truthfully, only one that really knows the “overpaid” answer are the people who manage the finances of the organization. If they think the offer works, its not overpaying.
D, good point above…
The Raiders plan to let free agent C Stefen Wisniewski test the open market.
Wisniewski isn’t expected to be re-signed after the Raiders failed to get an extension done during the season. He’s been a full-time starter since entering the league in 2011 — missing only three games over the last four seasons. 25-year-old Wisniewski should draw interest from multiple teams. He’s seeking a contract in the range of $3 million annually.
The money Pouncey wants, he can become a LG again…hit the weights Mike 😉
Pizza just hit its zenith
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2015/02/18/little-caesars-to-introduce-pizza-wrapped-in-3-5-feet-of-bacon/
LOLA, it’s like 4pcs of bacon
Piggy drops his pants and says that’s it, The Oinkening is on!
Then he goes muff diving in Mimi from the Drew Carey show.
Peggy’s quote before motorboat:
“For years you’ve eaten the bacon and now tonight prepare for the bacon to eat you!!!!!!”
Silly Tim says:
February 18, 2015 at 1:32 pm
The one thing about Wendy’s is that their…
every time i see their commercial with that smug looking troll i want to behead her.
i think that is what you meant to say
dont you have to wear pants to drop them?
dbolt48 says:
February 18, 2015 at 2:14 pm
Then he goes muff diving in Mimi from the Drew Carey show.
I can only picture Tim laughing maniacally at his computer searching for imagery 😂
lol @ tim
used to work with this chick who was just like that. even dressed the part and the make up and all. well dressed it in super tight short skirts and what not. it was disgusting. then just to prove men are pigs, a fellow cpa who worked for me, went and had sex with her after a party.
LMFAO! Like Tommy having sex with Beuhla Ballbreaker in Porkys 3
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13993/james-carpenter Our offense wouldnt necessarily be exact same system but it would be very similar.
ffr, did your co-worker say what it was like?
Probably like noodling with your junk
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LOL. Are you saying Browns fans have Stan vision? You know, when Stan from South Park saw everything as shit.
LOL, they actually Doo!
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dbolt48 says:
February 18, 2015 at 2:41 pm
Probably like noodling with your junk
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bite or no bite?
Sure it’s a bite with the industrial strength ShopVac pull to it…LOL
I read something recently on NFL.com that the Browns are likely to make a play on Randall Cobb.
More old friends my buddy Tom packed back in the day.
Larry Fitzgerald, Cards agree to deal – ESPN
One path for Wallace trade has closed.
If anything, nice that we haven’t heard anything on that front. Don’t think they could shop him without a report coming out.
Kinda ticked. ST’s OT’s TE’s all shoulda arrived yesterday at Indy and started pre-medical screening and initial interviews, and today shoulda been full on with that, yet no news yet. Bastards!
Are you saying they were late?
Im saying in the world of digital media….get those fucking stories in already!
Silly Tim says:
February 18, 2015 at 2:40 pm
ffr, did your co-worker say what it was like?
LOL all he said was she had subtle breast.
Just one?
I think subtle is redneck for supple. What is subtle? It quietly peaked out to see what he was up to?
LMAO!!!!
http://news.yahoo.com/92-year-old-slams-into-9-cars-in-parking-lot-150212529.html
Wow a regular demolition derby
Lol “HE’S ON A RAMPAGE!!!”
We have heightened driver’s requirements for teenagers….seems we should on the other end too, including for me.
LOL @ Son, I was really more focused on the singular breast. It would have been even funnier if he said she had nice vaginas. LOL
Mabye one is subtle and thee other is like RAAAAWRRARAWRARARRAARARRAAAARAAAAAWWWW
Its got tassels and shit, playing party music as it bounces to and fro
son of a son of a shula says:
February 18, 2015 at 3:52 pm
I think subtle is redneck for supple. What is subtle? It quietly peaked out to see what he was up to?
nope he said subtle. i even asked him if he meant supple and he said nope subtle, that is why we laughed about it so much
sub·tle
adjective
(especially of a change or distinction) so delicate or precise as to be difficult to analyze or describe.
This deserves a cartoon caption……one team I’m not worried about next year.
Caption should read: “Hey man, ya gots some of dat good sheet”, “Yeah dawg, just keep your head down and ill pass it to ya on the sly”
LOL — followed by “shiote we’re playing the Pats…….the evil genius might have a lip reader on us.”
or how about, “fuck man you told me your piss would be clean…now im out for next year….fuuuug”
and jesus, he was banging mimi, doest it really matter how many boobs she had.
Sure it does, makes for a lot different story to tell later. Stink would be the same, but the story…..much better.
I usually like Miller but i dont see the same guy he sees then, because DGB doesnt look anything like Benjamin to me other than size.
You know what system you run with a mofo like that – it’s called the “chuck it up and score” system.
Quit outsmarting yourselves, get the best athletes and put them out there
“nope he said subtle”
That’s a new one on me, but if he was the one to go there then I guess he can call it whatever he wants.