ABSOLUTE PERFECTION: THE 1972 MIAMI DOLPHINS

By:  Randy Campbell (OLD DOLFAN)

GAME 6: OCT. 22, 1972 – BUFFALO at MIAMI

The Buffalo Bills were a charter member of the American Football League.  In 1959 AFL founder Lamar Hunt reached out to insurance mogul and automobile heir Ralph Wilson, Jr., to see if he was interested in owning a franchise in the new league.  Wilson, a very wealthy man, was a minority owner of the Detroit Lions.  But he wanted his own team.  Hunt gave Wilson a choice of at least 3 cities: Miami; Buffalo; Cincinnati; and, perhaps, 2 other cities.  Wilson was turned down in his effort to place a team in Miami.  He then approached civic leaders in Buffalo.  At the time, Buffalo was a city of over 500,000 people, making it one of the 25 largest cities in the U.S.  Along with Buffalo, Wilson received strong support from the nearby cities of Niagara Falls and Rochester.  So a deal was signed and the Buffalo Bills were ready to play in ancient War Memorial Stadium (built to honor veterans of World War ONE!).

53 years later, 95 year old Ralph Wilson STILL owns the Buffalo Bills.  Unfortunately, the population in western New York state is only about half of what it was in 1960.  In a league known for wild, high-scoring offenses, the Bills were a defensive standout in the early years of the AFL.  Their 1964 team allowed just 913 yards rushing for an entire season (a record that still stands). And that ’64 Bills defense registered 50 sacks KCphoto4Carlton1964Away700w-300x235in a 14-game season, an all-time pro football record that has never been broken!  In both 1964 and 1965 the Bills won the AFL Championship Game.  The ’65 title stands as Buffalo’s last championship in ANY MAJOR PROFESSIONAL SPORT!  Those Bills teams featured 250 pound fullback Cookie Gilchrist, quarterbacks Jack Kemp and Daryle LaMonica, and wideouts Ernie Warlick and Elbert (“Wheels”) Dubenion, a world class sprinter and the fastest man to ever play in the AFL.  After a horrid 1968 season, the Bills selected Heisman Trophy winner O. J. Simpson as the #1 pick in the 1969 draft.  He would become the face of the franchise for nearly a decade.  The arrival of Simpson brought little improvement to Buffalo’s won-lost record.  In 1970, the Bills were 3-10-1.  In 1971 they were 1-13.  The Bills also lost all four games to Miami during those two seasons.  In fact, Buffalo would go “0 for the ’70’s” against Miami, losing all 20 games to the Dolphins in that decade!  NOT ONCE did O. J. Simpson ever play on a Buffalo team that defeated the ‘Fins!!  Lou Saban, who had coached Buffalo to their two AFL titles in ’64 and ’65, returned for a second tour of duty in 1972.  In week #2 of the season, Buffalo upset San Francisco 27-20.  Then, in week #4, the Bills destroyed New England 38-14.  Saban was making a difference.

Miami took the opening kickoff and drove deep into Buffalo territory.  From the five, Morrall handed off to Mercury Morriss who sped into the end zone.  The first quarter ended with Miami leading 7-0.  The Bills turned things around in the second quarter.  John Leypoldt booted a 35-yard field goal to narrow the gap to 7-3.  An Earl Morrall pass to Morris bounced off Morris’ hands right to Buffalo’s Ken Lee who returned it 16 yards for a touchdown and a 10-7 Buffalo advantage.   Just before halftime, Morrall threw an incomplete swing pass to Morris.  It was clearly a forward pass.  But the side judge ruled it a lateral and gave the ball to Buffalo.  Leypoldt’s 34-yard field goal gave the Bills a 13-7 lead at the half.

Coach Don Shula gave his players a blistering halftime lecture.  They came out of the locker room with an extra dose of motivation.

O.J. Simpson Tackled by Dolphin's Defense

Two days earlier, defensive tackle Manny Fernandez was in a hospital suffering from pneumonia.  On the second play of the second half, Fernandez slipped a block and took a direct hand-off from a stunned Bills quarterback Dennis Shaw at the Buffalo 10 yard line!  “What I liked,” said Larry Csonka, “was the way Manny didn’t even say ‘thank you’ when he took the ball!”  Csonka, for his part, did say “Thank you” to Fernandez after scoring on a 10-yard run on the very next play.  Miami now had a very shaky 14-13 lead.  Later in the third quarter, Garo Yepremian lined-up what would be the longest field goal of his career.  His 54-yard effort WAS GOOD with room to spare!  17-13, Miami after three quarters.  A John Leypoldt 45-yard field goal narrowed the gap to 17-16.  Everyone was on the edge of their seats!  Leypoldt’s kick-off flew completely out of the end zone.  Miami’s ball at their own 20.

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A calm Earl Morrall took the field.  Mixing running and passing plays Morrall moved the ‘Fins to the Buffalo 15 yard line.  From there, Mercury Morris bolted into the end zone giving Miami a 24-16 lead.  A few minutes later, Buffalo scored on a Mike Taliaferro to Jim Braxton 6-yard pass play.  Mysteriously, coach Lou Saban kicked the extra point rather than going for two points and a tie score.  “We thought we had plenty of time to kick the winning field goal,” said Saban.  He was proven wrong.  Morrall’s offense ate up almost all of the remaining time.  The “No Name Defense” did the rest.  Miami had barely escaped with a 24-23 win in a bizarre game that featured penalties, blown officials calls, muffed passes returned for touchdowns and a highly questionable decision by the losing head coach.  80,010 Dolphin fans left the Orange Bowl relieved and happy.

Next up: Earl Morrall would return to Baltimore to face the team that released him earlier in the year.  Legendary quarterback John Unitas and over 64,000 roaring fans at Memorial Stadium would be waiting for the Dolphins.

ABSOLUTE PERFECTION was still alive.  The 1972 Miami Dolphins were now 6-0.

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789 Responses to ABSOLUTE PERFECTION: THE 1972 MIAMI DOLPHINS

  1. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Im afraid it will probably be Waynes. For some reason I think the top 3 WRs go before we pick. I really hope not though.

  2. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Bills signed DT Kyle Williams to a one-year, $10.5 million contract extension through 2017.

  3. D's avatar D says:

    NFLTradeRumors.co ‏@nfltrade_rumors 18s19 seconds ago

    #Chiefs Sign WR Jeremy Maclin To A Five-Year, $55M Contract http://bit.ly/1A9tWt8

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Suddenly keeping Wallace isn’t such a bad idea after all, especially when you look at the Tag #’a of Demaryius & Dez….lol

  4. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    D

    Jimmy Graham has scored more TD’s than the Miami Dolphins the last 3 years. lol

    • D's avatar D says:

      Still we have need at OL, and to give up someone like Pouncey we would not have also fucked ourselves by giving up a 1st round pick as well.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Also dont forget, Brees throwing to Graham is different than Tanny throwing to him. I love Tanny but Brees was elite before Graham and will be after.

  5. D's avatar D says:

    ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk 15s16 seconds ago

    Bucs bringing Stefan Wisniewski, Chris Conte in for visits http://wp.me/p14QSB-9Jaj
    View summary 0 replies 0 retweets 1 favorite

  6. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @TonyPauline: Initial report from Louisville pro-day, Gerod Holliman/S, who did not run at the combine, 4.61s/40 heard he’s not looked good in testing..

  7. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    D, I’m just mentioning prospects we could be interested in, not doing evaluations whether I like them or not.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Not saying we wont be interested in them im just adding my opinion on those guys. You were doing one thing, i was doing another. I fully believe Collins is on our board at the appropriate ranking.

  8. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Chris Mortensen ✔ @mortreport
    When @KCChiefs clear cap space, Jeremy Maclin will sign a 5-year, $55 million deal, including $22.5 million in guarantees. $11 mill avg
    _____________________________
    Who’s gonna throw it to him? Chief’s WR’s had 0 TD’s in 2014….unfreakingbelieveable!

  9. D's avatar D says:

    Frank Gore’s deal now officially signed, per @RosenhausSports: 3 years for $12 million, including $8.5 million in the first 2 years.
    —————————-
    Pretty fair deal.

  10. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Not in this order, but I think top 14 are L. Williams, Scherff, Gregory, Winston, Mariota, Fowler, Dupree, Ray, La’el Collins, Cooper, Shelton, Landon Collins, Peat, White

  11. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:
  12. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Thanks D-Bolt

    I was really interested in what Holliman did. That might drop him down a couple of rounds, and make him a project. I’d be willing to take a guy with those instincts in the 5th or 6th and work with him. I have a feeling he still goes in the 3rd or 4th though.

  13. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    After signing Suh, ya think the rest of the AFCE will be looking for OG & OC’s in both FA & draft….lol

  14. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Adam Beasley @AdamHBeasley
    Wow, Cortland Finnegan takes a parting shot at Andre Johnson in his retirement announcement.

    https://instagram.com/p/0F2eZYOzLQ/?modal=true

    • D's avatar D says:

      Was rumored he was going to retire way earlier this offseason. He turned out not to be a horrible pickup, just unfortunately too busted up to stay healthy.

  15. D's avatar D says:

    getterdone says:
    March 11, 2015 at 11:00 am
    Suddenly keeping Wallace isn’t such a bad idea after all, especially when you look at the Tag #’a of Demaryius & Dez….lol
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    Its only not a bad idea now because we almost have to keep him to have 2 familiar targets for Tanny. If somehow Clay stays, im still right on board with cutting him. I still think he is easily replaceable via draft, but if we lose Clay and cut him, our need at WR and getting guaranted studs at WR goes from 1 to 2, meaning it shifts ALL our picks around so we wind up drafting WR back to back, missing out on the better ILB’s, CB’s, OG’s and S’s. Id rather not put that much pressure on our draft strategy. Clay stays, though and it changes that a whole lot.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      That was obvious to me even if Clay stays. You can’t gut your entire receiving corp and expect to still score 24+ points a game. It would make the Suh signing worthless….IMO.

  16. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Randy Starks ✔ @starks94
    Thank you fans for your support thru the ups and downs!!! Time to start a new chapter!!!!!

    Randy Starks ✔ @starks94
    It was a blast to be part of the Miami Dolphins! I’m going to miss my brothers that grind with me!

  17. D's avatar D says:

    Randy Starks ‏@starks94 3m3 minutes ago

    Hope I did enough to get a green jacket!!!!
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    I dont think so Randy but you were a really good DT, none the less.

  18. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    ROTFLMAO!

    Andrew Abramson ✔ @AbramsonPBP
    You literally took it in the rear. You earned it RT @starks94 Hope I did enough to get a green jacket!!!!

  19. D's avatar D says:

    Ian Wharton ‏@NFLFilmStudy 1m1 minute ago

    Welp “@BigCatCountry: “He’s an energetic guy, something I wasn’t used to in Miami.” — @JaredOdrick98 on #Jaguars HC Gus Bradley”

  20. D's avatar D says:

    Worilds retiring too, thats crazy. Lotsa younger dudes hanging them up.

  21. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Parting shot @ Bazooka Joe 😉

    Ian Wharton @NFLFilmStudy
    Welp “@BigCatCountry: “He’s an energetic guy, something I wasn’t used to in Miami.”
    — @JaredOdrick98 on #Jaguars HC Gus Bradley”

  22. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Good luck Randy Starks, you’re a quality pro.

  23. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @TonyPauline: Tyler Kroft/TE/Rutgers: 4.71s/4.69s in forty…

  24. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    wow just checking to see if they signed suh yet and caught a convo between mike e and D. i am shocked mike e stooped so low. lol

  25. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    FFR – I don’t have to stoop that far, I’m only 5’9″. lol

  26. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Maclin to KC is a good thing for us
    Makes the trade down easier to stomach
    Torrey smith to SF also good

    I doubt KC or SF draft a WR in the 1st after those pickups

    and they are right behind us

    So we might be able to trade down and pick up a player like Parker, DGB or Strong
    and Piggy likey Strong a lot

    • D's avatar D says:

      I still think SF has a high chance of drafting a WR, especially if DGB or Parker are still there. They still have Crabtreee leaving, and Johnson being cut, so really only WR they have back is Boldin. Torrey Smith is only one replacement guy.

    • D's avatar D says:

      KC, if you look what they have on their list, on FA pickup doesnt solve their problems either.

  27. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    D says:
    March 11, 2015 at 11:26 am

    Its BEER TIME!
    ———————————————————————————
    http://www.DiabetesSummit.net, a free, online event where you can listen to 40 experts—–starts tomorrow I believe

  28. D's avatar D says:

    Looked it up and there are a bunch of FA WR’s out there, affordable guys with talent. Lots still to go down.

    Percy Harvin, WR, Jets.
    Michael Crabtree, WR, 49ers.
    Andre Johnson, WR, Texans.
    Cecil Shorts, WR, Jaguars.
    Kenny Britt, WR, Rams.
    Eddie Royal, WR, Chargers. Age: 29.
    Hakeem Nicks, WR, Colts. Age: 27.
    Reggie Wayne, WR, Colts. Age: 36.
    Stevie Johnson, WR, 49ers. Age: 29.
    Denarius Moore, WR, Raiders. Age: 26.
    Mike Williams, WR, Bills. Age: 28.
    Nate Washington, WR, Titans. Age: 32.
    Greg Little, WR, Bengals. Age: 26.
    Vincent Brown, WR, Raiders. Age: 26.
    Wes Welker, WR, Broncos. Age: 34.
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  29. D's avatar D says:

    Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald writes that free-agent tight end Jordan Cameron will visit the Dolphins soon.

  30. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    this scares me. Good protection for tanny and decent run game is way more important than run defense. I hope they have a better plan than keeping these to.

    “Mike Tannenbaum said last week that the Dolphins feel good at guard with Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner primarily. But another veteran is needed now to replace Smith and Daryn Colledge.”

    • D's avatar D says:

      Shouldn’t scare ya, it looks like Tannebaum realizes it and likely will get someone. Should sound encouraging.

    • Jahndoh30's avatar jahndoh says:

      Dallas Thomas showed marked improvement last year. Not at all unusual for a guy with that kind of talent to take a couple years to adjust, and he showed signs of doing exactly that.

      Billy Turner has been someone the org and many many fans have had great hope in since he was drafted, and that has never waivered.

      The OL improved last year, and those guys are ready IMHO. I do hope we draft someone, and sign a Vet for depth and/or to push the young guys, but I don’t think the OL is the wasteland it was just 1 year ago by any stretch.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      That’s been the plan all along. Add a quality guard and also allow young developing players to compete.

  31. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    planning for life without philbin?

    ### Joe Philbin’s influence on personnel has certainly has been minimized since Tannenbaum’s addition. He had no real role in the Stephen Ross-driven decision to sign Suh, and had serious concerns about keeping Mike Wallace, a move the front office supports.

  32. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Front offices don’t tell anyone what they’re doing or who’s involved in what. Those reports like the one Boulder posted are nothing but shit starters.

    Philbin knows who Suh is, he coached against him twice a year for three seasons in GB. LOL

  33. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Finnegan is retiring again? Didn’t he retire before the 2014 season?

  34. D's avatar D says:

    Ben Volin retweeted
    Michael McCann ‏@McCannSportsLaw 15m15 minutes ago

    Getting worse for Aaron Hernandez: Glock witness says not only is AH holding a pistol, but it’s a Glock Pistol (make of gun used in murder).
    ——————————————————–
    They still have a long way to go. As i said before they are going to have to bring in experts for damn near every little ambiguous detail they have in the case that unravels their tying together of the circumstantial evidence in order to secure a “beyond reasonable doubt”. Good step though.

    • TryPod's avatar Try Pod says:

      ?
      AH…= Ass Hole?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      D — did you read that in Aaron’s “boy’s place” (a downtown apartment he kept) they found five boxes of .45 ammo? The defense better be able to present a .45 that wasn’t thrown off a bridge.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      D — you said it, but didn’t catch till I read the story that the expert witness was “Kyle Aspinwall, from Glock Inc,” who pointed out” various” defining features.” Good luck finding a defense witness to say different….that’s an expert witness career killer.

  35. D's avatar D says:

    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 21s21 seconds ago

    Interesting… In initial talks, @Alex_Flanagan said #Saints GM Mickey Loomis threw out some WRs to Seattle for potential trades. Wonder who

  36. D's avatar D says:

    Said he had no “real role” so what did they mean by that. Could it mean he let Coyle answer as for the need/match? Does it mean that he didnt say ANYTHING to Philbin. Im not buying that. Also he refers to it as a Ross driven signing, and Ross has gone on record saying he was staying out of hirings and firings. Seems speculative.

  37. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 1m 1 minute ago
    The Dolphins are waiting on Charles Clay to sign his contract offer from Buffalo before making any major transaction. Patience.

  38. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    buy a donkey in South Africa means “thank you”

  39. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Regarding the transition tag, does Clay still have complete rights to take any offer from us he wants to? If the Bills make an offer I know we have the right to match but what if we give him a similar offer. Can choose to take our offer even if it’s less?

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Can **he** choose…

    • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

      Main reason I’m asking is because if that is the case then it doesn’t really matter if the Bills put an offer on the table with a large hit season 1 because we can put a very similar offer on the table but push the cap hit to the next season or beyond.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Yes, he’s a UFA. He could accept our one year transition # and be done with FA.

      • CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

        Thanks, Tim. That’s what I thought. So the whole “the Bills are going to make an offer with a big 1st year hit” is more media bullshit. We can make the same offer and flip year 1 and 2 or some other kind of accounting.

  40. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    LOL

    @Rizzmigizz: Ndamukong Suh’s Ten Dirtiest Plays in the NFL http://t.co/o2tWUB2hQ0 via @miaminewtimes http://t.co/rDQbjXAqMi

  41. D's avatar D says:

    Here is Walter from Waltefootballs mock for us as of today.
    Devante Parker WR Louisville
    Arie Kouandjio OG Alabama
    Jaquiski Tartt SS/FS Samford
    Wayne Lyons CB Stanford
    Henry Anderson DE/DT Standford

    Its not bad, but i dont expect us to pass up drafting an ILB in first 3 rounds, and i dont think DE/DT is a place we need to add another guy this year. I really like both Parker and Tartt. This is more what i would have done with what he had available when we picked.

    Devante Parker WR Louisville
    Benardrick McKinney ILB Miss. State.
    Jaquiski Tartt SS/FS Samford
    Senquez Golson CB Ole Miss
    Setfon Diggs WR Maryland

  42. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    So when you are in the police station being questioned about a murder, what’s the best way to spend your spare time? If you play TE for the pats, you send this long text to the mother of your child.

    “Go in back of the screen in movie room when u get home an there is the box avielle likes to play with in the tub jus in case u were lookin for it!!!! Member how u ruined that big tv lmao WAS JUST THINKIN bout that lol wink wink love u TTYL….k.”

    Probably just playful banter, but then Baby Mom soon after was on surveillance exiting the house with a box and later returning without it. Sure it is just coincidence that the prosecutors have already granted her immunity.

    • D's avatar D says:

      I know man, everything is just so freaking vanilla, they talk in nothing but code all the fucking time. Hell the texts between Odin and his sister were inadmissable because of that shit. If they had said, “im with Aaron Hernandez” they probably woulda been allowed.

  43. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    D says:
    March 11, 2015 at 12:54 pm

    Whats does fuck a duck mean?

    wtf does it matter to you. you dont hear me asking shit about your sex life do you?

  44. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    Philbin isn’t the guy who buys groceries anyway and no one would have a clue if he has input or not. Typical reporter garbaaage.

    I’m not too impressed with most of the FA WR group. Give me those young studs.

    I’m also tired of the bias driven crap that ESPN, etc are spewing as usghe. I love that QBs are the only group worth big money but everyone is spending big money on lots of positions. I love that Belicheater always just gets value except when his draft sucks ass or he pays out the ass for a S. Or for his TE, or his QB, or for a CB, or all the other times he has paid big money but that’s not part of the driven narrative.

    • D's avatar D says:

      I agree, i dont even want the vet WR we have lol…gimme young guys hungry to make a name and talent to back it up.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I don’t watch that stuff anymore because it’s as if they don’t even pay attention to what’s going on.

  45. D's avatar D says:

    If we cut Wallace and lost Clay. I would probably want a vet WR like Crabtree or Royal who could come in and give me a vet guy, but wouldnt break our bank and then draft the future. This is a little risky, so keeping Wallace if we lost Clay makes more sense as to what they would do. We still draft 2, his eventual replacement, plus a 1st rounder, from this years pool i think, and just bide our time before cutting him next year.

  46. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    I also like that they compare unrelated items and circumstances. Suddenly, since Suh never won a play off game in Detroit, his signing sucks. I don’t remember Detroit ever having the entire Dolphins squad at any point? So, what is the true relation there? That one guy doesn’t win championships? Isn’t that a well known fact?

    Our defense was already really good early last year with a lot of older, less talented guys.

    • New Age's avatar New Age says:

      I compare this to saying Dallas didn’t improve when they added that last piece to their OL. Were they suddenly able to do things they couldn’t before? Did Garrett just change his whole philosophy last year or did making the trenches suddenly make a huge difference? I swear that garbage is hard to listen to sometimes. Of course regular radio is far worse.

    • D's avatar D says:

      You cant relate any of it, when you see a person dragging in unrelated information to make thier point, that means they dont have any real facts to make it. There is no guarantee we will or will not make playoffs off that sign. There is only one fact that IS undeiable. He is a better player at that position than we had and by virtue of improving one part of the defense we have improved the whole of it.

  47. Jahndoh30's avatar jahndoh says:

    cavkong,

    For practical purposes, the only plays Miami has with Clay are A) He signs and plays for the Transition tag number. or B)We match an offer (exactly as written) from an official offer sheet signed by clay and another team.

    Once Clay was tagged, if we were to negotiate a different contract with him (which is option C, just not “practical”) the team would forego the use of the transition tag for the duration of the new contract. Not the duration he’s with the team, he could even be cut in year 4 of a 6 year contract, but we wouldn’t have the transition tag to use until after that entire contract term of 6 years has elapsed.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Oh, if he signs an offer sheet, he can’t agree to different terms with us even if the total numbers are the same?

      • Jahndoh30's avatar jahndoh says:

        That is correct. Think about how the poison pills of yesteryear worked. If a team could just change a little detail on an offersheet, we would’ve never lost Welker, The Vikings would’ve never landed Steve Hutchinson, etc.

        There is now language that prohibits poison pills, but the concept is the same. The Dolphins will be required to match the contract exactly as written, or Clay is obligated to sign that contract with the offering team.

    • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

      Don’t forget option C) Clay signs transition tendered and negotiates a new contract in July.

      • Jahndoh30's avatar jahndoh says:

        Fins lose the use of the Transition tag for the duration of that contract. It’s not a likely option, and I don’t think it’s ever happened since the advent of the tag in the NFL.

  48. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    new age

    everyone knows bellicheat gets his best value out of the ball boys

  49. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    FFR goes to the zoo.

  50. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    tim

    why the fuck is that guy holding onto my tail for?

  51. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Boulder

    I tend to agree with or without Philbin Suh is here
    But other than that I think the concept of Philbin particpating in the acquisition of Suh is irrelevent
    He is the coach not the GM

    and for the record, Philbin cited the run defense as one of the key reasons we missed the postseason
    So signing Suh to address that is about as close to on the same page as it gets don;t you think?

    If Philbin isn’t here in 2016, I don;t think it has anything to do with Suh
    and I don;t think acquiring one of the most dominant players in football is a sign of anything else than a team’s desire to acquire one of the most dominant players in football

    I tend to think if you asked 32 head coaches if they wanted Suh on their team, you would get 32 “Yes Please”

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Also, why would the org be moving forward making moves and setting up a lame duck coach? If you want no input from your HC and feel he’s out next year, you should have already fired him. So none of that makes sense.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        They aren’t setting up a lame duck coach
        that is just stupid
        If Ross thought Philbin desvered to be fired now, he would have been and not had to explain it to anyone

        Ross actually sat out the harbaugh pursuit in favor of keeping Philbin

        but I can by the Philbin needs to prove to the powers that be that he is the guy for their future

  52. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    The only position post season success is really a refelction on is the QB position IMO

    Dick Butkus was on many losing teams and he is an icon

    Suh can play amazing and we can stil lose the game
    But Suh is NOT going to be the reason we lose

    acquiring a player like that is the envy of the NFL, make no mistake about it

  53. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    “Hey coach….what are your thoughts on whether or not we should sign one of the top 2 or 3 DTs in the league and help you save your job?”

    “Uh, do my balls hang low…do they sway to and fro? Any other stupid questions?

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      Randy — we sure are better off at DT though. The D-line should not be a problem. Should be fairly good even.

      • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

        I think that is his point

        Its a no brainer that any caoch wants Suh

        Moreover
        Philbin cited our run defense as a problem in 2014
        So I guess Philbin doesn’t want Suh

        Philbin is salivating over having Suh on his team
        He might not want him to use profanity….lol
        but he is not an idiot

        I mean come on….

      • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

        I thought he was going on to the “would you like Suh on your team” in isolation. That’s a no brainer for me too.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      exactly Randy

      “Hey Coach Philbin, how do you feel about winning a football game?”

      Who sthe fuck would say
      “Nah, I don’t really want Suh”

  54. TryPod's avatar Try Pod says:

    Just spent the last few hours with this lady. Very nice to talk to, seems to sincerely care about veterans, and is very pleasant to look at, besides:
    http://www.heatherfrenchhenry.com/

  55. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Thanks for the detailed answer, Jahn. That cleared up every question i had about the transition tag

  56. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    The Flying Pig
    2 hours ago• Finsmob Unleashed
    .

    Where is Jaelen Strong!
    and Amari Cooper
    I suspect Strong would be valued about the same as Parker
    !!!!!!!!!!!
    I’m Assuming Cooper is gone (as most are predicting)
    While I like Strong He should go later in the first

    Of course I could just be full of shit too? 😉

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I see your point on both
      But if Cooper is gone, so is White don’t you think?
      If you have White ranked, you pretty much need Cooper unless you think we just don’t want him

      Personally I like Strong better than Parker
      but that’s me

  57. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    FFR, you finally admitted you’re a jackass. LOL

  58. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    lol love this rumor brees to bucs

    http://www.joebucsfan.com/?p=133406

  59. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Piggy,
    It’s more Suh’s impact on what other moves the team has to make…who they keep, cut or sign because of the money Suh eats up. Does the team have to settle for lesser talent at other positions…and does that make us a worse team overall? Signing Suh makes our defensive line better and, by extension, your whole defense. It’s yet to be seen if his addition leads to more wins. I’m just not sure a DT….no matter how good he is….leads to 3 or 4 more wins. it’s impossible to quantify it though.

    That’s why I don’t think this is a “”Win now” move. It’s simply a move to get a really good player and get better….now and in the future.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      It’s valid point

      But that’s not really a coaches typical input
      Coaches want the players and let other people worry about $

  60. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    March 11, 2015 at 1:56 pm

    FFR, you finally admitted you’re a jackass. LOL

    i am not brian williams, i dont make up stories about myself. (and to you that is mr supreme jackass)

  61. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    stanger,
    Yeah, my point was what coach wouldn’t want Suh on his team? Philbin’s involvement in the conversation should be: Hell yeah! Why are you even asking me? Lol

    • BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

      this is not just about suh. From Barry Jackson’s article it seems like he’s not involved at all in any of the roster moves. I think thats a bit unusual

  62. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Piggy
    I’m not sure about the WR’s in the first?

    I’d say at least one is gone?

    Maybe 2, but I think that 1 will be the number

  63. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I think it would be great if we draft Cooper. I think he could easily end up having the best long term career of any WR in this draft. He has some flexibility to move him around. He’s an extremely disciplined route runner, he is mature and shouldn’t have issues stepping into the nfl world, and I think he helps his QB more than anybody else in this draft….very QB friendly. I just think he’s the cleanest WR in this draft….not the flashiest.

  64. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Tim,
    Oh, sorry, I didn’t know that. I don’t see much chatter about Cooper on the blog. I’m still just getting into looking at players for the draft.

    • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

      I could see Miami trying to trade up for Cooper if he drops past 7

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I didn’t mean to say you weren’t saying anything new or anything, just that everything you said is why he’s the top rated WR by most people.

  65. jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

    http://www.wsvn.com/story/28394722/reports-shooting-at-lil-waynes-miami-beach-home

    never heard of this guy and he is all over the news stations right now. Showing the guys mansion that is 10million.

  66. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Wyoming,
    Good question. I think it depends on how they feel about the OL they already have and how much of a gap they feel there is between Scherff and somebody else they might go after later in the draft. I don’t think Scherff will be there….and maybe neither of them will be. If push came to shove, I might have to pick Cooper.

  67. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    I call BS!

    Alain Poupart @apoupartFins
    Per @EaglesInsider, Chip Kelly said the Eagles were offered a first-round pick this morning for Sam Bradford.

  68. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    I guess he is gonna wind Bradford’s knees together with duct tape as an added measure.

    Speaking Wednesday, Eagles GM/coach Chip Kelly emphatically said that the team isn’t planning to trade up for Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.
    “Let’s dispel that right now,” Kelly said. “We will never mortgage our future to go up and get someone like that.” Kelly said the Eagles have too many other needs to pay the draft-pick price it would take to acquire Mariota. Kelly, of course, didn’t say what he’d do if Mariota fell to No. 20.

  69. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Brian,
    I would venture a guess that lots of coaches around the league have less influence or input into player/personnel issues than most fans would think. just because you can coach, doesn’t mean you can evaluate talent. And, maybe Philbin is okay with having limited input. Maybe he just wants to coach. We don’t know for certain.

  70. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    randy just wants suh so he can blame tanny for taking yet another sack and over throwing wallace again

  71. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    hey randy, what do you think of john denney

    randy: well tanny wouldnt get sacked so much if he put on his left sock first

    hey randy can you believe finnegan retired

    randy: well tanny wouldnt get sacked if he knew how to tie his shoes right

  72. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @MiamiDolphins: He’s here.

    #SuhSighting http://t.co/PAtuFb2i65

  73. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    FFR throwing Chinese stars at Randy. LOL

  74. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:
  75. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    ffr,
    I’m hoping Tanny steps up and leads us to 11 wins and a nice playoff run.

    I’m out!

  76. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    tim i cant throw. it was more me doing this to randy

  77. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @ArmandoSalguero: Ndamukong Suh signs with the Dolphins (finally) http://t.co/tUjWPCj5yj

  78. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    randy

    careful there. i mean going out on a limb hoping the fins get to the playoffs. what kind of real fan wants their team to get to the playoffs. you know as well as i do all good fans want their team to fail so they can bitch about them.

  79. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 1m1 minute ago
    And Brice McCain has agreed (soon signing) with the Dolphins, per his agent @davidcanter

  80. CavalierKong's avatar CavalierKong says:

    Omar Kelly retweeted
    DEC Management ‏@davidcanter 1m1 minute ago
    It’s official. @McCain21 is an @MiamiDolphins

  81. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @ArmandoSalguero: And Brice McCain has agreed (soon signing) with the Dolphins, per his agent @davidcanter

  82. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @RapSheet: The #Dolphins gave CB Brice McCain a 2-year deal that can be worth $5.5M with $3M guaranteed. He made $815K last year

  83. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    wow. so the 14th pick will be a ILB , OG or WR?

  84. finfanrob's avatar finfanrob says:

    BoulderPhinfan says:
    March 11, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    wow. so the 14th pick will be a ILB , OG or WR?

    thats such bull. with the 14th pick the fins can have a their choice of any cheerleader they want

  85. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    tim,
    I was actually hoping taylor would be the 2nd cb. I thought when he actually played last year he did well.

  86. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

  87. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @SiClancy: The Dolphins had dinner with Oklahoma TE Blake Bell earlier this week.

  88. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    I hope he wants one of those Suhper Bowl trophies for himself soon!

  89. stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

    Heard today that Suh has been in Miami for a good number of days. Yeah that’s not like from Schefter, but my source has always been good before. He works for one of the top management companies for condos and hotels in the area and the guys who work for it all have smart phones, especially the Phin Phans about Phin stuff.

  90. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Dolphins signed CB Brice McCain to a two-year, $5.5 million contract.
    The deal includes $3 million in guarantees. McCain is the Dolphins’ Cortland Finnegan replacement. McCain is capable of playing both inside and out, but is more effective in the slot. He was one of the worst players in the league in 2013 before rebounding last season. 28 years old, McCain is a workmanlike addition to a thoroughly-average Dolphins secondary.

    • stangerx's avatar stangerx says:

      “thoroughly-average Dolphins secondary”…..with Grimes and Jones in the mix? And we ain’t done yet maybe.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      McCain being 5’9 187 worries me. But Suh’s pressure should allow the smaller CB’s like Grimes & McCain to break on some passes. That’s how a DT can help get us an extra 2 Wins a year Randy Buckets. 🙂

  91. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    I’d think now that CB Patrick Robinson, Brandon Flowers are now out of the picture. Like you mentioned Stanger, we’ll likely add a DB in the draft now.

  92. D's avatar D says:

    getterdone says:
    March 11, 2015 at 3:31 pm
    McCain being 5’9 187 worries me. But Suh’s pressure should allow the smaller CB’s like Grimes & McCain to break on some passes. That’s how a DT can help get us an extra 2 Wins a year Randy Buckets. 🙂
    ————————————-
    I dont think that guy was brought in with the intention or or expectation of starting.

  93. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I don’t know why you guys are concerned about McCain size

    In our zone scheme height is not a huge factor

    • D's avatar D says:

      Meh, height is always a factor. Shorter CB’s have to have supreme skills to be good. Its probably not as big an issue as in press or man, but its still a factor.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Oh and we may run Zone in the middle of our defense, but we played man on the outsides most the time.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      We don’t play strictly zone, and in fact we need to play a lot less of it. Besides, the size factor that worries me is in run support.
      I like CB’s than can get after the run and make solid tackles.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Most out coverages were zone in the middle man on the outside. Its a hybrid and we flexed inbetween some zone calls on the outsides as well, but didnt stay in that.

  94. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Dbolt, that’s a great post I saw you made about the Phins having dinner with Blake Bell. He’s my sleeper steal of a TE in this draft who could turn out better than Walford and others in about 2-3 years.

  95. D's avatar D says:

    Comartie, Tramon Williams, Chris Culliver, Perrish Cox, Raesean Mathis alll still available…but i doubt we sign anyone big. I think they are expecting Taylor to take the next step.

  96. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    GD, ya need some smaller quicker corners to hang with the smaller quicker WRs. We need a mix of both.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      We already had smaller corners.

    • D's avatar D says:

      No what ya really need is taller quicker lol….. I think with smaller, you have to have really good technique and ball skills to be as vompetative, the taller guys have it a little easier.

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        Not always, the taller ones also tend to not be quick twitch. Brandon Browner is a great example. If he wasn’t allowed to get away with holding he would suck.

  97. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    D, Flowers would’ve been too expensive for our spent budget anyhow .

    • D's avatar D says:

      I agree, i dont want a guy through FA. I would love to draft either Collins or Golson. Golson is a smaller CB too but his coverage skills are supreme.

  98. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Alain Poupart @apoupartFins
    McCain has started 19 games in six NFL seasons, including nine with the Steelers last year. Returned an INT for a touchdown vs. Jaguars.

    Andrew Abramson ✔ @AbramsonPBP
    I’d imagine Brice McCain will compete with Jamar Taylor for starting CB job. McCain could also play the slot #Dolphins

  99. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    McCain signing – Meh. One ho hum corner in place of another.

  100. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Bucs will release DE Michael Johnson.
    They’re giving up on Johnson just after just one season into a “five-year, $45 million” deal. Along with LT Anthony Collins — also released — Johnson was a complete flop in Tampa Bay last season, battling a high ankle sprain, not giving full effort when healthy, and managing four sacks across 14 games.

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