By:  Randy Campbell (OLD DOLFAN)

GAME 6: OCT. 22, 1972 – BUFFALO at MIAMI

The Buffalo Bills were a charter member of the American Football League.  In 1959 AFL founder Lamar Hunt reached out to insurance mogul and automobile heir Ralph Wilson, Jr., to see if he was interested in owning a franchise in the new league.  Wilson, a very wealthy man, was a minority owner of the Detroit Lions.  But he wanted his own team.  Hunt gave Wilson a choice of at least 3 cities: Miami; Buffalo; Cincinnati; and, perhaps, 2 other cities.  Wilson was turned down in his effort to place a team in Miami.  He then approached civic leaders in Buffalo.  At the time, Buffalo was a city of over 500,000 people, making it one of the 25 largest cities in the U.S.  Along with Buffalo, Wilson received strong support from the nearby cities of Niagara Falls and Rochester.  So a deal was signed and the Buffalo Bills were ready to play in ancient War Memorial Stadium (built to honor veterans of World War ONE!).

53 years later, 95 year old Ralph Wilson STILL owns the Buffalo Bills.  Unfortunately, the population in western New York state is only about half of what it was in 1960.  In a league known for wild, high-scoring offenses, the Bills were a defensive standout in the early years of the AFL.  Their 1964 team allowed just 913 yards rushing for an entire season (a record that still stands). And that ’64 Bills defense registered 50 sacks KCphoto4Carlton1964Away700w-300x235in a 14-game season, an all-time pro football record that has never been broken!  In both 1964 and 1965 the Bills won the AFL Championship Game.  The ’65 title stands as Buffalo’s last championship in ANY MAJOR PROFESSIONAL SPORT!  Those Bills teams featured 250 pound fullback Cookie Gilchrist, quarterbacks Jack Kemp and Daryle LaMonica, and wideouts Ernie Warlick and Elbert (“Wheels”) Dubenion, a world class sprinter and the fastest man to ever play in the AFL.  After a horrid 1968 season, the Bills selected Heisman Trophy winner O. J. Simpson as the #1 pick in the 1969 draft.  He would become the face of the franchise for nearly a decade.  The arrival of Simpson brought little improvement to Buffalo’s won-lost record.  In 1970, the Bills were 3-10-1.  In 1971 they were 1-13.  The Bills also lost all four games to Miami during those two seasons.  In fact, Buffalo would go “0 for the ’70’s” against Miami, losing all 20 games to the Dolphins in that decade!  NOT ONCE did O. J. Simpson ever play on a Buffalo team that defeated the ‘Fins!!  Lou Saban, who had coached Buffalo to their two AFL titles in ’64 and ’65, returned for a second tour of duty in 1972.  In week #2 of the season, Buffalo upset San Francisco 27-20.  Then, in week #4, the Bills destroyed New England 38-14.  Saban was making a difference.

Miami took the opening kickoff and drove deep into Buffalo territory.  From the five, Morrall handed off to Mercury Morriss who sped into the end zone.  The first quarter ended with Miami leading 7-0.  The Bills turned things around in the second quarter.  John Leypoldt booted a 35-yard field goal to narrow the gap to 7-3.  An Earl Morrall pass to Morris bounced off Morris’ hands right to Buffalo’s Ken Lee who returned it 16 yards for a touchdown and a 10-7 Buffalo advantage.   Just before halftime, Morrall threw an incomplete swing pass to Morris.  It was clearly a forward pass.  But the side judge ruled it a lateral and gave the ball to Buffalo.  Leypoldt’s 34-yard field goal gave the Bills a 13-7 lead at the half.

Coach Don Shula gave his players a blistering halftime lecture.  They came out of the locker room with an extra dose of motivation.

O.J. Simpson Tackled by Dolphin's Defense

Two days earlier, defensive tackle Manny Fernandez was in a hospital suffering from pneumonia.  On the second play of the second half, Fernandez slipped a block and took a direct hand-off from a stunned Bills quarterback Dennis Shaw at the Buffalo 10 yard line!  “What I liked,” said Larry Csonka, “was the way Manny didn’t even say ‘thank you’ when he took the ball!”  Csonka, for his part, did say “Thank you” to Fernandez after scoring on a 10-yard run on the very next play.  Miami now had a very shaky 14-13 lead.  Later in the third quarter, Garo Yepremian lined-up what would be the longest field goal of his career.  His 54-yard effort WAS GOOD with room to spare!  17-13, Miami after three quarters.  A John Leypoldt 45-yard field goal narrowed the gap to 17-16.  Everyone was on the edge of their seats!  Leypoldt’s kick-off flew completely out of the end zone.  Miami’s ball at their own 20.


A calm Earl Morrall took the field.  Mixing running and passing plays Morrall moved the ‘Fins to the Buffalo 15 yard line.  From there, Mercury Morris bolted into the end zone giving Miami a 24-16 lead.  A few minutes later, Buffalo scored on a Mike Taliaferro to Jim Braxton 6-yard pass play.  Mysteriously, coach Lou Saban kicked the extra point rather than going for two points and a tie score.  “We thought we had plenty of time to kick the winning field goal,” said Saban.  He was proven wrong.  Morrall’s offense ate up almost all of the remaining time.  The “No Name Defense” did the rest.  Miami had barely escaped with a 24-23 win in a bizarre game that featured penalties, blown officials calls, muffed passes returned for touchdowns and a highly questionable decision by the losing head coach.  80,010 Dolphin fans left the Orange Bowl relieved and happy.

Next up: Earl Morrall would return to Baltimore to face the team that released him earlier in the year.  Legendary quarterback John Unitas and over 64,000 roaring fans at Memorial Stadium would be waiting for the Dolphins.

ABSOLUTE PERFECTION was still alive.  The 1972 Miami Dolphins were now 6-0.

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  1. D says:

    Couple guys for TE interest me might be later round guys. Waller, Saxton, Jean Sifrin, Rory Anderson, CJ Uzomah. Some of these may even fall to UDFA. They all have a lot of upside, just kinda raw talent or werent used much in college as a receiver. Uzomah and Anderson both fall into that latter category, and both likely very good receivers as they have all the skills for it.

  2. stangerx says:

    Revis has been all over the place and took a lot of risk, but look how it turned out for him….not so different from Suh.
    In 2013, Revis signed a five-year deal with $0 guaranteed. He has since secured $68 million for himself. Here is his past and future salary by year:

    2013 — $17 million ($16 million from Tampa Bay, $1 million from New York Jets)
    2014 — $12 million (New England)
    2015 — $16 million guaranteed (New York Jets)
    2016 — $17 million guaranted (New York Jets)
    2017 — $17 million ($6 mil guaranteed) (New York Jets)

  3. getterdone says:

    Free agent RBs Mikel Leshoure, Felix Jones and Michael Bush will all participate in the NFL’s March 22 Veteran Combine.
    That’s in addition to other notable names like Michael Sam and Adam Carriker. The event is unlikely to result in many deals that otherwise wouldn’t happen, but is certainly a positive addition to the NFL schedule.
    Maybe Suh vouches for Leshoure as our short yardage power back. 6’0 234.

    • D says:

      He has remarkable awful power for a back of his size. I dont get it, and really wouldnt want him. He was supposed to be hot shit coming out of college but never came close to expectations.

  4. BoulderPhinfan says:

    from NFL.com.

    It’s hard not to think of the Dolphins as a team perennially on the edge of a massive collapse and we can’t help but think this is a make-or-break year for a lot of key players there. No spotlight is brighter than the one shining on Ryan Tannehill, especially if he inks the mega-extension he’s been working on this offseason, giving Miami a pair of players that will likely eclipse the $200 million mark combined. If Tannehill works out, Tannenbaum has to feel good about the foundation of his roster and what lies ahead. If he ponies up and pays Tannehill, only to see the weight of the contract crush the former first-rounder, then the former Jets executive will have to deal with the pain of doling out two pretty awful deals to quarterbacks. Aside from Tannehill, though, the Ndamukong Suh deal places an incredible amount of pressure on the team to make a leap and contend for the division this year.

    • getterdone says:

      That can be said for just about any team….lol Nothing to see here folks. 😉

    • jahndoh says:

      “perennially on the edge of a massive collapse”
      “If he ponies up and pays Tannehill, only to see the weight of the contract crush the former first-rounder, then the former Jets executive will have to deal with the pain of doling out two pretty awful deals to quarterbacks. ”

      That made me laugh. Thanks.

  5. stangerx says:

    “The Dolphins will hold a press conference at 4 p.m. ET”

    Guess what that is about.

  6. getterdone says:

    D, I’m telling you, ya better get on the Bell wagon in that list of TE’s.

  7. D says:

    Looks like my guy Max Garcia is just now starting to get some love from evaluators, he once was considered like a 6-UDFA now he is considered 4th overall OC prospect and 10th overall OG prospect with a 3-4th round grade. I still think he falls a little past 4th, 5th sounds about right to me but id be interested in him. I never understood how he was being viewed so poorly, now looks like people coming to their senses.

  8. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I guess philbin wasn’t invited to this signing 😦

  9. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
    Joe Philbin also here but not at podium.

  10. D says:

    Jarvis Juice Landry ‏@God_Son80 2m2 minutes ago

    Our front four is like the back court for Kentucky right now…. #SuhSighting
    0 replies 24 retweets 19 favorites

  11. D says:

    Jarvis Juice Landry ‏@God_Son80 5s5 seconds ago

    I hate to see some of my teammates go but Im excited to see Suh with that Fins logo on his helmet this time around. #SuhSighting

  12. getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
    “He takes as much pride in setting up his teammates as he does in making the play himself,” Dennis Hickey said of Suh.

  13. D says:

    Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 31s31 seconds ago

    Andre Johnson’s 3 year deal with the Colts is worth $21M. Gets to face the Texans twice a year. Adds some spice to that division
    0 replies 0 retweets 0 favorites

  14. BoulderPhinfan says:

    yea when it come to philbin I’m going to look for negative stuff because i think he brings nothing to the table.

    BTW I don’t need to look to hard.

  15. getterdone says:


  16. D says:

    Chris Perkins ‏@chrisperk 16s17 seconds ago

    Suh on signing with #Dolphins: “I wouldn’t say money is the most important factor.”
    0 replies 0 retweets 0 favorites

    Armando Salguero ‏@ArmandoSalguero 52s52 seconds ago

    Suh: “I would say money was the most important factor” in making this decision.
    Man Mando likes to stir the pot.

  17. getterdone says:

    “I understand that I have to speak up, and I will do that. But you also have to show people the right way,” Suh said.

  18. drg says:

    Big day today. Brice McCain is a big signing! Go Utes!

    Anything else going on?

  19. getterdone says:

    Ndamukong Suh just said he looks forward to going against “Mr. Pouncey.”

  20. D says:

    James Walker ‏@JamesWalkerNFL 22s23 seconds ago

    Ndamukong Suh said he has a lot of respect for #Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill “because he’s taken my hits.”


  21. D says:

    GDP no he tweeted he thought he said was, but wasnt sure it wasnt “wasnt” later. He tweeted before he friggin knew, because he heard what he wanted to. He’s a shit head and does shit like this frequently.

  22. finfanrob says:

    hmmmm didnt know suh had a twin

  23. getterdone says:

    Andrew Abramson ✔ @AbramsonPBP
    Tannenbaum says he’s very comfortable with team’s cap over the next couple of years. So there Boulder.

  24. Tim Knight says:

    Armando wakes up in the morning and turns on his douche nozzle.

  25. getterdone says:

    Tannenbaum singles out LB Chris McCain as a guy who can help the #Dolphins (they’re going to need depth).

  26. stangerx says:

    Suh is a really well-spoken and good guy. Not eaxactly what one would expect after all the fines and penalties.

    Did love how Ross, Tannebaum and Hickey made such a point of how tough the negotiations were though……lol.

  27. Tim Knight says:

    I know it’s all in good fun and not hateful at all, just want to point out that comparing a large black man like Suh to a gorilla can be taken the wrong way.

  28. getterdone says:

    Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
    Suh on his reputation: “For me being misunderstood is people having their opinion and sticking with that instead of getting to know me.” …and I’ll beat the crap out of you Mando or that punk Omar for talking negative, by the way, which way is Brady’s house?”

  29. Tim Knight says:

    GD, I didn’t know that his nickname and I wasn’t just talking about your post. It’s been going on for days. It was just a FYI.

  30. stangerx says:

    Did think it funny that Suh has a personal relationship with Warren Buffet, who is also friends with Stephen Ross. BTW — got trust Buffet on Suh’s character. He don’t have a dog in the hunt and he is…….well Warren Buffet.

  31. getterdone says:

    Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
    Ross is a gangsta … “If there wasn’t a cap, I’d spend more.”
    Now that’s funny from Mando!

  32. getterdone says:

    Hal Habib @gunnerhal
    Suh on Tannehill: He knows how to miscue defensive linemen.

    Alain Poupart @apoupartFins
    Suh on Tannehill: I have a lot of respect for him. He’s got great feet and the ability to get the ball downfield.

  33. Ken says:

    Tim Knight says:
    March 11, 2015 at 4:41 pm (Edit)

    Suh has aspirations to become a billionaire.
    1/10th of the way there

  34. naplesfan2010 says:

    (Idiot) Heath Evans, former (stupid) Patriots and Dolphins fullback (drooling) on NFL Network: “We’re going to look back here in history and say this is dumb … Ndamukong Suh, look at his production last year when the Lions played the Patriots. He was basically a non-factor. The dominant players are dominant every single week, they’re double-teamed just like he is. They never have bad days. (Suh) had plenty of bad days … Suh robbed the bank, and Joe Philbin is going to get framed for this bank robbery. The trickle-down effect of this will be devastating to this franchise, mark my words.” (Said Heath to laughter from all knowledgeable football fans.)

    • stangerx says:

      What up Naples? Inevitable that somebody is going to try and get attention by seriously bashing a big-name signing. Don’t even have to be an ex-Pat, so to speak.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Heath Evans is an asshole

      I marked his word “irrelevent”, so I hope he is happy

  35. getterdone says:

    Ross is happy to spend that kinda money on Suh. He knows he’ll get it back from OD & his Boyz. 😉

    • stangerx says:

      Salt and wound, but there is a salary cap. All Ross does is spend up to it, unlike a lot of other teams whose fans are biotching.

      • getterdone says:

        True, glad Ross does spend, that’s one thing you can’t fault him on.

      • getterdone says:

        Maybe someone should suggest that he should give out free parking passes & free programs to all recurring season tix holders that were displaced by the renovations.

  36. Tim Knight says:

    GD, a lot of people’s eyes are closed in pics due to the flash.

  37. Tim Knight says:

    Suh has made big money already, we don’t know what his investments look like. His family are professionals too and he was raised smart, he might be closer to a billionaire than we think.

    • Ken says:

      HIs rookie contract was probably around 25 million so he has ground to cover yet. But he just caught up a big chunk of it now.

  38. finfanrob says:

    Suh on Tannehill: I have a lot of respect for him. He’s got great feet and the ability to get the ball downfield.

    Ken says:
    March 11, 2015 at 4:51 pm

    Mike Wallace disagrees with half of that statement.

    and randy the other half

  39. jahndoh says:

    Ross’ eyes are closed so he won’t see the price tag.

    Tannenbaum: “Trust me Steve…you don’t want to focus on anything except Brady in a body cast at this point”
    Ross: (closes eyes and starts chanting in a Zen tone) “Brady in a body cast, Brady in a body cast”

  40. getterdone says:

    Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
    Steve Ross asked if this is his biggest home run: “I haven’t hit one yet. We haven’t won anything yet.”
    Good answer Stevie!

  41. getterdone says:

    LMAO, Good one Habib!

  42. The Flying Pig says:

    The Bills just released Scott Chandler

  43. getterdone says:

    Boulder & Mike E, sneak over to let air out of the tires.

    • getterdone says:

      Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
      First time I see Air Farce One at camp and it’s not about a Dolphins coach hiring/firing

  44. wyoming85 says:

    142: R5P14 C B.J. FINNEY KANSAS ST

    • The Flying Pig says:


    • jahndoh says:

      I don’t hate it, but I think waiting til round 6 at LB and getting an outside LB with that singular pick is a big mistake. Also, would like some WR NOT from SC. 🙂

      • wyoming85 says:

        Jake is a ILB/OLB on most sites
        LOL @ the SC Bias
        That particular board had all 4 of the top LB’s gone by 47!

  45. getterdone says:

    Jarvis Juice Landry ✔ @God_Son80
    Suh in Miami, O you got to love it… #StrongerTogether Welcome to South Beach

  46. finfanrob says:

    lol at you guys that think suh is going to get by brady

    kraft: roger, how in the world did you let that monster sign with the fins. you know how he can hurt tammy

    roger: dont worry bobby baby, i already told the refs if they call one holding call cause of him that they will be officiating in the XFL

  47. getterdone says:

    Hmm, I wonder if Hickey has Mason Foster still on his radar. He could flourish behind a guy like Suh as we all know.

    Bucs agreed to terms with LB Bruce Carter, formerly of the Cowboys, on a four-year contract.
    The former second-round pick can play both the strong side and weak side in the 4-3 defense, but will likely man the SAM spot in Tampa Bay with Lavonte David locked in at WILL. Last year’s SLB Danny Lansanah is a candidate to kick to the middle for the Bucs, replacing free agent MLB Mason Foster.

  48. naplesfan2010 says:

    I say trade up and get Amari or WR White and go for the Super Bowl. Then sign Spiller and/or Harvin. We don’t need lots of good solid 8-8 guys. We’ve got 45 of those. We need a few 12-4 guys.

  49. getterdone says:

    After an anonymous threatening phone call from somewhere in Colorado to the Herald Sports desk…

    Armando Salguero @ArmandoSalguero
    Upon further review of tape and asking again, Suh said money was not biggest factor in coming to Miami.

  50. D says:

    James Walker ‏@JamesWalkerNFL 18s18 seconds ago

    Suh on pressure: “I’m excited about pressure. I don’t necessarily look at it as pressure. I looking at it as doing something I’m built for.”

  51. New Age says:

    Lol, gotta laugh at the salty media

  52. Try Pod says:

    So, I have a question; Suh should be the unquestionable leader of the defensive team. So, if the guys get a little heated, and start to get riled up, talking really loudly, And he has to quiet them down, would that be called “Suh-shing”?

  53. D says:

    You guys can thank me for this signing. When i made my Madden team several months ago i drafted Suh with my first pick…..so see Madden is real football!

  54. Al in MIA says:

    I wonder if anyone has yet gone over cafeteria etiquette with Suh. :/

  55. Tim Knight says:

    All I want from the media is info. that something is happening or has happened. I seriously can’t watch/listen to most of the pundits and their opinions anymore. I do listen to WFAN radio because I’ve been listening to that show since it started and I know who I can trust. But the NFL pundits make me ill with how smug they are and they don’t come off as overly knowledgeable.

  56. wyoming85 says:

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly · 24m24 minutes ago
    Last time I talked to Mike Pouncey he wasn’t coming to OTAs without a new multi-year deal. We’ll see if his mind changes.
    Come on down!

    • stangerx says:

      Hey — we do that for him and it is more cap space…….even if I will not that the source for that is Omar.

  57. Tim Knight says:

    GD, could you take your avi to a barber and get the bozo hair cut? LOL

  58. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    March 11, 2015 at 5:37 pm
    He walks into the cafeteria and asks where was the pussy’s seat? LOL
    scuse me? Suh can smell pussy from a mile away….

  59. D says:

    Crazy well spoken dude….

  60. Tim Knight says:

    Okay Suhsters, catch up later.

  61. getterdone says:

    Tim, it’s Einstein hair & he’s still thinking on how to make this team better. Wait till after the draft. 😉

  62. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    March 11, 2015 at 5:41 pm
    I would hope they have cleaned it since.
    the smell of bad pussy never really leaves a place.

  63. Al in MIA says:

    LOL Tim.
    Now serving…

  64. CaliGigi says:

    So Hickey has to get approval from Tannenbaum and the Black Widow on players he wants??? LMAO he is only a pawn Tannenbaum is GM and whats her name has more power then you folks think!

  65. Al in MIA says:


    Been looking at Finney for a bit; started all career games for KState (39 times; 38 at center).

    More on Finney’s background and adversity he has overcome:


    Other articles about his college playing background and transition to NFL pre-draft stuff.

  66. D says:

    So Parker was interviewed by us at combine and now have been brought in on private workout. 🙂 Likewise on Beasley. McKinney has been interviewed by us twice, one private interview after Pro Day, one at combine. Perryman has been interviewed twice, once at Senior Bowl once at Combine. Interesting to see not only the players but the positions we are doing multiple checks on.

  67. Try Pod says:

    Nfl network showed a graphic that implied Clay was still with Miami

    • getterdone says:

      Why wouldn’t he be. He hasn’t singed an offer sheet anywhere & even if he did, we have 7 days to match.

    • D says:

      He is until he signs the paperwork with Bills and we refuse to match. Could be next week before thats all said and done.

      • Try Pod says:

        Good point- He’s a rfa, isn’t he?

      • D says:

        He has transition tag on him which is like franchise tag except people can still make offers to him, we just get the option to match those offers and keep him.

  68. getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
    “I talk players & acquiring players and they tell me whether I can or not,”Dennis Hickey told Finsider about his role with Tannenbaum & Dawn
    He means this in the sense of it working contract wise. Hickey is still a very important grocery shopper, with Tannenbaum & Aponte holding the cash n coupons….IMHO!

    • D says:

      I think its the idea of having a senior manager who oversees other managers, Hickey being one. In the way i see things Tannebaum is the boss and he could overrule Hickey if he disagreed with him.

      • D says:

        Aponte is outside the player/personnel side of thing and just manages the numbers so i think she says what can and cant be done from a number standpoint but i still think Tannebaum has a little power over her as well.

      • getterdone says:

        In some cases sure, Tannenbaum is an extension of the owner. We’ve seen owners get involved in player moves before, and we saw it here with Suh according to Ross himself.

      • getterdone says:

        Hickey’s biggest authority will be over the draft. He did well there last year too.

      • D says:

        I think Ross did get involved by saying this guy is the real deal i wants it, but i do believe if it was fully and wholly irresponsible to do so, and we could not have afforded it without destroying the team, they would have told him so and he would have relented.

  69. getterdone says:
  70. getterdone says:

    TryPod, I laughed at the Larry photo up the page…funny stuff.

  71. Mike E. says:

    Suh was really nice, too nice in his interview on NFLN. Spoke way too nicely about Brady. Speak softly and break his neck. That works . . .

    • stangerx says:

      Seems Ken should be more psyched about Suh…….he’s got the whole Dr Bruce Banner/Hulk thing going on.

  72. finfanrob says:

    D says:
    March 11, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    You guys can thank me for this signing.

    or who to blame.

  73. BoulderPhinfan says:

    Lol @ gdp

  74. CaliGigi says:

    Hickey is a GM in name only Tannenbaum is running the show

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Hickey is the talent evaluator and the guy who finds guys like McCain and Fede and the guy who drafted James and Landry. Tanenbaum is the guy who says to Aponte let’s go big and bold and get Suh. Tell us how we can make it happen financially. Aponte crunches the numbers on whoever they tell her to do the math on. Ross says money is no object, I’m in, Let’s build it. Philbin says we looked at the tape and this is who we f’ed up last year and we can let go with no pain and this is who we need to keep. It’s a great team.

    • Tim Knight says:

      You know this how? Hickey is the hunter, Tannebaum helps with running the entire football program. The reason Hickey, Philbin and the coaches weren’t in the picture of the Suh signing is because they’re looking at other FAs and watching film of potential draftees, not Tannenbaum. But if it makes you feel better to view it the other way so be it.

    • getterdone says:

      Yep, soon Tannenbaum will be coaching & calling plays too right? 🙄

  75. CavalierKong says:

    Omar Kelly retweeted
    Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 10m10 minutes ago View translation
    Ndamukong Suh $114M deal, $59.955M gtd, $25.5M signing bonus, base salaries $985K, $23.485M, $9.985M, $16.985M, $18.985M, $8.36M

  76. CavalierKong says:

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 2m2 minutes ago
    Sooooo…..Ndamukong Suh’s year 1 cap hit is $5.25M this year.

  77. CaliGigi says:

    Jeff Ireland reported to Ross…..

  78. New Age says:

    I like a lot of the moves so far. Not sure what FA we have left that are really good options, but that is what happens when you need to sign a Suh.

  79. jahndoh says:

    Does it matter how the front office structure works anymore…as long as it works? We’re 0-0 this season, and the FO structure has changed, so lets see what works.

    Is there ANY fan anywhere who really knows which person in the organization is ever most integral to success…or which is most appropriate to blame? Who found Cam Wake? Exactly, we don’t know. Do I care? No. Do I like the Suh signing or not? That’s all that matters today.

    I don’t know to be honest, but I’m on board at this point. I hope he spells the beginning of the end of Tom Brady’s career and single handedly makes us 2 games better than last season. I know one thing for sure. They are TRYING like hell to make this into a playoff team. Would much rather see them try than just to play it safe, and I’d expect anyone who’s sick of 8-8 to feel similarly.

    Hope that was neutral enough and not too preachy. It’s just how I feel about all the arguments that have divided us as a group for so long. Would just love to see some of the camaraderie that I originally sought when I started posting to Topix boards 15 years ago, rekindled for the cause of the 2015 Fins.

    As Rumblefish always said: Go Fins! Hell Yeah!

  80. naplesfan2010 says:

    Let’s compare the Mario Williams acquisition, due to money and buzz. Did he get them into the playoffs? No. Did he win two games for them by himself. Yes. And we have a better QB, soooo …

  81. naplesfan2010 says:

    I would also draft that former QB from Oklahoma now a TE. He is a good ball handler and huge and was used as a battering ram type TD machine from 3-8 yds out. He could be our HBack, FB, TE guy. He ran a fast 40 at the combine. He can throw a trick-play pass as well.

  82. jahndoh says:

    That deal tells me that they are planning on not signing free agents at all next year beyond Tannehill (and a few league minimum type deals). It also indicates they are likely to cull one more large contract next offseason, look out Wake, Wallace, Jones, (off the top of my head). It may also indicate that they anticipate a large increase in total Cap next year.

    Lastly, it means we can also possibly get away from the contract in year 3, although I need to see more specifics about what is making up that 60M guaranteed beyond the 25.5 signing bonus.

    • New Age says:

      Hopefully it is also a sign that we will have most of what we need next year besides the draft upgrades. Honestly, a solid OL, a DL lead by Suh, and Tannehill locked up sounds like a lot of the pieces needed to compete at a high level.

  83. finfanrob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    March 11, 2015 at 6:55 pm

    You know this how?

    because she has boobs. and boobs trumps all.

  84. getterdone says:

    Got to give the FO a big A+ for effort!

    Go Phins!

  85. olddolphan says:

    AT 4:56 PM GDP said,”Maybe — he (ROSS) should give out free parking passes & free programs to all recurring season tix holders …displaced by the renovation.” WELL, GDP, that would be an OUTSTANDING PR MOVE by Ross and is therefore very UNLIKELY to happen. When Metamucil Carl Peterson first took over in Kansas City, Peterson immediately raised ticket and concession prices along with parking fees. “Bleed the fans for every nickel you can” was King Carl’s motto. When Peterson was finally fired by Lamar Hunt, he was one of the most hated persons in sports in the Kansas City area. And now, about 20 years later, King Carl is still the one who has Ross’s ear. –Fortunately for Peterson, I’ve never run into him at Sun Baked Stadium. It would be a memorable encounter, bet your ass on that!! –I absolutely despise the greedy, foul mouthed sonofabitch and the fact ROSS LOVES HIM says a lot about who Steve Ross really is.
    NOW, GDP, as for the issues you raise: FREE PARKING PASSES for loyal season tix holders. ROSS actually raised parking fees in the cash lot this season from $20 to $35. This year, they’ll likely be HIGHER. Season tix holders got ’em for $20 but I’ll be amazed if they aren’t jacked up about 50 per cent THIS YEAR to $30 per game, including the exhibition games. –FREE PROGRAMS: Last year some programs were given awayFREE. But they ran out about 30-45 minutes before kickoff SO YOU COULD NOT EVEN GET ONE IF YOU WERE WILLING TO PAY!
    SEASON TICKET CARDS supposedly gave you a 7-10 per cent discount on food & gear at the game. BUT BOTH OF MINE MALFUNCTIONED SO I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY DISCOUNTS!!
    HELL, Stanger and I even had trouble getting into the Ravens game BECAUSE OUR SEASON TICKET CARDS WERE REJECTED BY THE SCANNERS!! Luckily, someone with a different scanner was brought in and we eventually were let in. I COULD mention other serious problems we had, such as the dangerous security issue in the parking lot at the Kansas City game (which scared the living shit out of my wife) but you get the picture. ROSS’s leadership of this franchise is full of greed and inefficiency, some of which is dangerous. There’s a realy good chance that me and my BOYZ will no longer be going to the stadium after this season.

    • stangerx says:

      “ROSS actually raised parking fees in the cash lot this season from $20 to $35”

      OD — that wasn’t my experience there. Was $25 like the year before except for a couple games when they raised it to $35 (the pats comes to mind)…..rest of the time I was there it was 25.

      • olddolphan says:

        An acquaintance at the Ravens game said parking in the cash lot cost him
        $35. He also said he paid $20 for the second home game. Perhaps he was confused. One thing I CAN tel you is that there was a sign on the Turnpike indicating cash lot parking was $35 later in the season. But maybe it was a different lot.

      • stangerx says:

        Was always either $25 or $35 (for the Pats) in the lots I parked in. Could have been that for the Ravens too and I just don’t remember. When they popped it up for the Pats game though they taped the price onto the pre-printed $25 and then tore it off for the ones after.

  86. Try Pod says:

    Sean o’hara implying Zach Martin owned Suh in the playoffs

  87. getterdone says:

    Naples, Blake Bell is my sleeper steal for the draft, especially from the 5th rd on. I’d even consider him in 4th tho.
    He’s a tad raw, but high ceiling like Tanny had. Remember how well QB>WR Matt Jones was before nose candy ruled his life?
    Blake Bell is the next Jimmy Graham / Gronk type TE…IMO.

    • Try Pod says:

      From article: “The small-market Jaguars committed $175 million, including $78 million guaranteed, to six free agents who are expected to be immediate starters and possibly key components to getting the team back in the hunt in the AFC.”

  88. getterdone says:

    OD, did ya hear we signed Suh? We also signed a CB Brice McCain 😉

    • olddolphan says:

      YUP. Big question in MY mind is this: can our current coaching staff turn these talented individuals into a team that CAN WIN IN THE PLAYOFFS?? So far, the answer’s been “NO.” –They’ve still got to “SHOW ME!!”

  89. CaliGigi says:

    Nothing has gone well with this team for a long time….we will see if there is $$ for TE OL LB WR RB CB AND SAFETY

    • getterdone says:

      No team has the money to buy all the position needs. At some point you have to draft well, coach well, and hope guys stay healthy.
      Hickey had a good opening draft…i look forward to see if he can keep that momentum going. Then it’s up to the coaching/development of those young players.

      • olddolphan says:

        GDP: SEE my answer just above GIGI’s post. She and I agree the coaching staff has yet to show us they can win (or get into) the playoffs.

    • stangerx says:

      Gigi — there probably won’t be, but it won’t be cause we signed Suh. He will be cost us as much as Starks was going to next year, and since we then cut Starks……..same as it was before.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      No, in fact, Tannehill, J James, Landry, Wake, Albert, Grimes, and Pouncey are all good players, and last year we beat the Chargers 37-0 and we beat the Super Bowl Champions and Tannehill has beaten Luck, Brady x2, Wilson, MRyan, Bradford, and the ginger in Cincy.

  90. naplesfan2010 says:

    My fave MLB is Stephone Anthony. 2nd round.
    He did 23 reps and ran a 4.56.

    • getterdone says:

      He’ll definitely move up from his original 4-5th round projections.
      I like him for his size and running a 4.56 really makes a strong argument.
      But what is his 10yard break?

  91. jahndoh says:

    We’re 0-0. I’m enjoying the overall positive vibe I’m getting from the org these days. Sorry only some of you are able to share that with me.

    I wasn’t a proponent of chasing Suh, but in doing it, they all demonstrated to me they are willing to take whatever professional risks are necessary to change what’s happening in Miami.

    I don’t know. I just feel good about the Fins right now…and that’s kinda nice. Suh is s Dolphin.

    This is a 6 year deal. He very well could be the next Dolphin inducted into the HOF (though I hope that’ll be JT or even better, Zach Thomas), it’s worth getting just a WEE bit happy about!

  92. wyoming85 says:

    getterdone says:

    March 11, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    OD, did ya hear we signed Suh? We also signed a CB Brice McCain 😉
    I wonder if he can bring the McPain too? 🙂

  93. Tim Knight says:

    Can we just appreciate a team effort and trying to get better rather than shit on people and demean them? I personally don’t get that tact but to each their own.

    • olddolphan says:

      ROSS DESERVES all the shit that’s been thrown at him. To date, he’s the only owner in Fins history who has NOT won a playoff game. IF we win some playoff games this season I’ll be the first to give him props. To quote Lombardi; “Winning isn’t everything. It’s the ONLY THING!”

  94. jahndoh says:

    New Age says:
    March 11, 2015 at 7:25 pm
    Hopefully it is also a sign that we will have most of what we need next year besides the draft upgrades. Honestly, a solid OL, a DL lead by Suh, and Tannehill locked up sounds like a lot of the pieces needed to compete at a high level.
    Agreed New Age.

  95. Try Pod says:

    The Suhning improved our odds of winning the Super Bowl.
    They are now 25-1.
    Up from 30-1.
    It’s official. Suh is the panacea this team has been looking for.

  96. getterdone says:

    Gigi, don’t be compared to Omar….LOL

    Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
    But basically, Suh runs the Miami Dolphins franchise right now. Carry on.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Oy! I have no idea what’s in this guy’s head.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Omar is just pissed cuz he thought he ran the franchise ever since Mr Burnet left.

    • jahndoh says:

      LMAO @ that. What a fuckin’ joke. I can’t believe how petty he can be. He was straight up wrong just a few days ago about Suh, and it’s one more reason for him to hate on the Fins org. Don’t know what Mando’s deal is, but it seems like he’s been jilted by someone high up at the fins himself. Newspaper was the original bully pulpit, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

    • New Age says:

      O is so jealous. He doesn’t even run his own house(neither do I but im not bitter). He’s a bandwagon fan anyways. Guy has a serious hard-on for the Colts now that they are good and trending up. Bet we don’t hear the inflated Flacco garbage as much this year though.

    • stangerx says:

      Does O also need Suh to get at least a 85 QB rating next year?

  97. naplesfan2010 says:

    So if we had beaten GB and Detroit last year we would’ve made the playoffs. Anybody think Aaron and Stafford make those winning drives with Suh in their faces?

  98. Try Pod says:

    I want to be excited about the floyd v manny fight, but I feel it’s mayweather’s to lose. If this fight had taken place 3 it more years earlier, I believe Pacquiao wins. I think floyd felt he couldn’t beat Manny earlier in his career, but Manny does not seem to be the same fighter anymore. It’s a shame- I really wanted this to be a good fight, but I don’t think it will be. I’m still rooting for the fellow from the Philippines.

    • New Age says:

      I hate Mayweather as a fighter. Guy is chicken shit through and through. Smart as can be but unwilling to fight the top talent while they can still compete.

  99. jahndoh says:

    BTW, I predict Buffalo’s offer carries a large cap hit in year 2 of the contract. Fins couldn’t wait on Suh, but Buffalo was smart to wait on that contract before crafting their offer sheet to Clay. Kudos to their FO. I respect that org more than any other in our division (which isn’t a big stretch..but…still…lol).

  100. getterdone says:

    Jahn, Omar is all jacked about the Colts cause the former Canes Gore & Johnson went there to finish the 1 maybe 2 yrs left of their careers…lol
    Now we’ll hear all season how great Luck is compared to Tanny…SMH!

  101. New Age says:


    Omar started to comment about Luck late in the year. He mentioned how Luck carried that franchise(true) and how Tannehill couldn’t(most can’t). Someone clued him in on how football works I guess and now he wants to ride the popular ride. Flacco lost another bandwagoner this year. The Canes connection just lets him try and change the narrative a bit. ” I was a fan because they supported my boys!” Like any Cane gives a shit about Omar(future or present).

  102. finfanrob says:

    wow, i cannot believe jahn is preaching at us telling everyone how they should be a fan.

  103. Tim Knight says:

    The bottom line is Suh is a big time player. Yes he’s a Jekyll and Hyde type guy on and off the field, but he’s a beast of a player. You can worry about the cap, but I wouldn’t with a player of his magnitude because he is currently the best player on the team.

    When teams look to build their franchise it’s QB, DT, LT, pass rushers and top level corners. All you have to do is watch how FA and specifically drafts go down.

  104. jahndoh says:

    “Does O also need Suh to get at least a 85 QB rating next year?”


    For New Age. Yes, it has to match exactly..at least that’s my understanding. it’s why the poison pill clauses worked in the past. Otherwise teams would just write those troublesome parts out of the contract.

    • New Age says:

      K, I was wondering how close to the old poison pills the transition tag operated.

      • jahndoh says:

        The poison pills were the reason that until the new CBA came out teams stopped using the Transition tag. The new CBA includes language that prevents them.

  105. naplesfan2010 says:

    Sapp is bigger than Suh.
    Sapp is 6’2 300 and Suh is 6’4 300.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Suh would throw Sapp through a building. Sapp’s game was quickness, Suh has that and elite power. No comparison. It’s not all about stats. It’s about how you have to prepare and play to contain Suh. He throws OL around like rag dolls at times.

  106. finfanrob says:

    jahndoh says:
    March 11, 2015 at 7:46 pm

    LMAO @ that. What a fuckin’ joke.

    i so agree my cali beer making god. but i think the LMAO and fuckin joke is anyone who follows him or reads and repeats the shit the troll spews. he does it for the attention and people give it too him. that always works out well for attention whores.

  107. finfanrob says:

    jahndoh says:
    March 11, 2015 at 7:58 pm

    LOL…there it is.

    thought you would like that. lol

  108. Tim Knight says:

    OD, it’s obvious you have your beefs with Ross, but a lot of you fans don’t see what this org is trying to build – taking the team to a new level of sports science which is what Mr. T’s main project is. I really hope you get to enjoy it sooner than later. You’re a long time fan who’s seen this team since it’s infancy. You deserve another experience being on top.

  109. getterdone says:

    I saw someone ask Omar about Tanny this season, and Omar now has it at 95.5 QBR or higher with some other shit about wins, kills, 30 TD’s, who knows…lol
    Someone please pop him off of Garrard’s tits ! smh

  110. Tim Knight says:

    My order is suspect? It’s not exact every year but those 5 positions always lead the way when they’re available. The draft proves it, I didn’t make it up. Suh was the #2 pick in 2010. LOL

  111. Mike E. says:


    With ya on Stephone Anthony. I think realistically, he may end up being our best choice at ILB. Not sure if we get a shot at Kendricks, McKinney or Perryman in the 2nd RD, so Anthony looks like a logical choice. I think he’ll turn out to be a solid player too.

  112. getterdone says:

    Naples, but Suh seems to have a better base & stronger push than Sapp.

  113. getterdone says:

    FFR, stop calling me a whore. I resemble that remark! 😈

  114. wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 14: Cameron Erving, OT/OG, Florida State (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 15: Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 14: Gerod Holliman, FS, Louisville (B)
    Round 4 Pick 15: Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson (B)
    Round 5 Pick 14: Kevin White, CB, TCU (A)
    Round 6 Pick 15: Karlos Williams, RB, Florida State (A)
    Round 7 Pick 15: Stefon Diggs, WR, Maryland (B+)

    Sorry Tim
    I took Williams instead of Varga!
    But there’s always nest time! 😉

  115. Mike E. says:


    D-Bolt mentioned that Holliman had a poor pro day. Did you hear anything about that? I was really disappointed to hear that.

  116. finfanrob says:

    naplesfan2010 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    Sapp is in the Hall of Fame.

    yep he is, but betcha that wont get him a hooker anymore.

  117. Mike E. says:


    How is 6’2″ 300 bigger than 6’4″ 300? New math?

  118. Try Pod says:

    Truth is, it’s the off-season. We go through this every year; the ups, the downs, the second guessing, the third guessing, the complaining, the worrying, the fretting, the sensitivity to what some writer/host/talking head says.. I expect it and actually find it quite funny much of the time. And I certainly can laugh at my own idiocy.

  119. naplesfan2010 says:

    I still want to draft Brandon Bridge in the 6th to stash on the PS and then replace Moore next year when we need to pay Suh and Tannehill.

  120. The Flying Pig says:

    Omar Kelly retweeted
    Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider 10m10 minutes ago View translation
    Ndamukong Suh $114M deal, $59.955M gtd, $25.5M signing bonus, base salaries $985K, $23.485M, $9.985M, $16.985M, $18.985M, $8.36M

    I’m gonna go ahead and speculate that Tanny gets big chunks of his salary in 2017 and 2020

  121. Tim Knight says:

    Naples, Sapp was a great player. But he is nothing like Suh physically. Suh will also get the yellow jacket some day.

  122. finfanrob says:

    Try Pod says:
    March 11, 2015 at 8:16 pm

    ‘the sensitivity to what some writer/host/talking head says..’

    and that is why i strictly get all my dolphin info from you fuckers.

  123. wyoming85 says:

    Mike E
    I’ve been swamped at work and haven’t seen a single pro day report

    Holliman is not my favorite but he’s pretty good!

    The ones who’s film I didn’t like was Durell Eskridge*, S, Syracuse ?

  124. Tim Knight says:

    Suh and the word skinny in the same sentence might be the new picture for the definition of oxymoron. LOL

  125. naplesfan2010 says:

    I scrolled up and can’t find the first half of my post on Sapp and Suh.
    The comparison of the two is a natural one to make.
    But in the post that vanished, I said that Suh is leaner and has less bodyfat (at least to the naked eye). So I looked it up and it’s true.
    Both have been known to slap an OG or Center (cough cough Pouncey) off balance and blow right by.

  126. Mike E. says:


    I think Suh is definitely leaner than Sapp. Sapp was a fat ass, he had more lower body mass than Suh does, but not sure of it’s even worth discussing. Pretty sure Suh will be HOF DT just like Sapp one day.

  127. wyoming85 says:

    And in breaking news for FFR
    The hulk and a giant Gorilla are being attacked by an alien, and a toaster oven!
    Seems the dispute started over the seating arrangement for season ticket holders?
    More info @ 6:00

  128. Mike E. says:

    Thanks Wyo – I saw one tweet that D-Bolt posted from Tpony Pauline, who is either from PFF or PFT or one of those 3 letter fuckface organizations. lol

    It said Holliman ran a 4.63 40, and didn’t look good doing his drills. I’d love to hear another perspective.

  129. finfanrob says:

    wyoming85 says:
    March 11, 2015 at 8:32 pm

    And in breaking news for FFR
    The hulk and a giant Gorilla are being attacked by an alien, and a toaster oven!
    Seems the dispute started over the seating arrangement for season ticket holders?

    dude that is fucking rude. just cause he is older then anyone here that isnt a reason to call OD an alien. but that is damn funny calling stanger a toaster oven.

  130. Mike E. says:


    I’d bet that Suh has a bigger suitcase filled with cash than Sapp.

  131. naplesfan2010 says:

    So Mitchell wears #90. Will Suh buy it off him?

    • Mike E. says:

      I forgot which DT had #90 before Mitchell, he gave it to Mitchell when Mitchell got here. I think it was AJ Francis. He tweeted something like “I should have held onto #90, look what it’s going to be worth now!”.

  132. The Flying Pig says:

    Is Gator Hoskins on some one else’s roster these days?

  133. Tim Knight says:

    I want more impact players than focusing on perceived holes. I don’t think we’re void of talent at any position, just not deep enough in some areas. Not unlike a lot of teams. It’s not like we have nobody to play at any position, it’s about trying to get better and Suh is now our best player. I’d say it was Wake before but Suh is even more dominant at what he does. It’s a good thing.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      I would package a bunch of picks to go up and get Amari Cooper. He was so dominant in most games that it was a joke. Why not?

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’m all for that sort of thing. I really think this team wants to make a run and not just be like we’re trying, it takes time, patience etc. like those hippie types. LOL

        Seriously, I would not be shocked if we were aggressive in the draft.

    • BoulderPhinfan says:

      I agree, suh is the best player on the team but tanny is the most important player for 2015 and playoffs hope

  134. Tim Knight says:

    Maybe getting too caught up in late round picks and UDFAs is part of our mediocre fan base. LOL

  135. Mike E. says:

    Ah, thanks D-Bolt – I thought it was Francis.

  136. naplesfan2010 says:

    I don’t like to complain but can you guys get Brian Hartline’s package off your background? He’s not even on our team anymore.

  137. Mike E. says:


    I don’t have any problem with a trade up. If there’s a guy we’ve identified and think he’s the guy that will make our offense or defense go, then get him. We need quality in this draft, not quantity.

  138. getterdone says:
  139. steveccnv says:

    And I thought OD really had the scoop, seems like he’s just making shit up 😛

    Mysteriously, coach Lou Saban kicked the extra point rather than going for two points and a tie score. “We thought we had plenty of time to kick the winning field goal,” said Saban. He was proven wrong.

    I know he posted yesterday that he said there weren’t any 2 pt conversions back then, but still…

    • olddolphan says:

      NAW, just faulty memory, Steve. Some day you’ll hit my age and find out what it’s all about. That said, any accuracy improvements on this series by you and others are greatly appreciated.

      • steveccnv says:

        Since the game was in Miami I was there, but as young as I was I don’t even remember it.

  140. son of a son of a shula says:

    Leonard Williams is a great D line prospect but he’s not Suh good. We just got an amazing talent ,the whole thing still seems unreal.

  141. son of a son of a shula says:

    I love the Suh background

  142. Ken says:

    What’s up FUers? Just a night time drive by for me. You know what is really pissing me off? Colt fans. Listening to them on NFL Radio sounding like they won the SB with a bunch of geriatric signings they made. One guy said he is going to book his hotel room now for the SB.

  143. Ken says:

    Jamar Taylor better win the starting job at CB this year. I will be most displeased if he did not. Hulk might even get angry about that.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      As long as he is healthy I think he wins the job, he started playing well before the shoulder injury. And thank goodness it was a shoulder and not a knee he should be fine.

      • Ken says:

        He needs to stay healthy too. I look at the McCain signing as depth only. I don’t think he is here to be a starter.

  144. Ken says:

    Nice background change.

  145. Rockphin says:

    The “official” dolphins page is hilarious. They never report anything, they only “repost” other “news agencies” articles with the title “Report: xyz”

  146. son of a son of a shula says:

    Willie McGinnest knows what we did.

  147. son of a son of a shula says:

    Ken I think McCain is the new Jimmy Wilson, and Wilson is gone.

    • Ken says:

      Something like that. I don’t think he can play S like Wilson did but he is clearly a nickel or dime type of CB.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Well I meant our nickel player, Thomas and Jones (the other one) will take the slack at Safety.

  148. steveccnv says:

    So Donkey Kong Suh finally signs, it’s going to be a fun season, watching him sack Brady and stuff their RBs.

  149. herdfan says:

    I’ve changed the background again. I thought the pic from twitter that was posted above looked cool. Which one do you guys like for now?

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Its fine as long as “Mr I’ll play in patsie land for discount” is off.

    • Ken says:

      I like the one with him putting on the cap. I was more of a full frontal guy. I am bad man. LOL. Nice job with backgrounds Herd.

      • herdfan says:

        ok, I’ll change it back, just was trying out to see how it looked. I agree the one with Hartline needed to be replaced.

  150. The Flying Pig says:

    Me likey the new background

  151. son of a son of a shula says:

    Studies show that high dollar free agents who do their press conference in a suit with squares go on to be great.

  152. Ken says:

    I would like to see Suh lining vs. Incognito this year.:

    “Hey Richie, the girls at Tootsies say hi”

  153. Ken says:

    Nice work on the background. I like the cap photo. Well done.

  154. Tim Knight says:

    So Suh who is an intelligent young man who did research on where he may go in the future, viewed our org as an elite, progressive place to go, but we’re a cluster-fuck? I know money is the only real value, lol. Something to think about though. 😉

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      He’s the shit, We’re totally different now than anything we’ve been for a long long time. This is HUGE.

    • Ken says:

      That all sounds nice but he went here because we are giving him $60 million in guaranteed money. Lets not kid ourselves.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I think we devalue other priorities in cases like this. Do you just go to Miami for $4-6M more instead of staying in DET or going to OAK? Quality of life plays a role in it, team fit, talent around him. He’s impressed with Tannehill. Do we always have to ignore that type of stuff and make it a negative?

  155. son of a son of a shula says:

    Rejoice Dolphin fan its alright to be excited!

  156. Mike E. says:


  157. Ken says:

    If the Colts were smart instead of all these geriatric FAs they signed they should have gone after Suh and then tell the Pats lets see you run up on the middle on us now. I don’t get the Colts FA moves and everyone is raving about them.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      They expressed interest in Suh

      They are one of the teams rumored to have been told he was already going to Miami in the 72 hour window

      • Ken says:

        I knew they were interested. I don’t know if they made any than more than an expression of interest though. It seems like they had money to spend so not sure if they made an offer or not in that 72 hour window.

  158. The Flying Pig says:

    Backview Herd

  159. son of a son of a shula says:

    Today is my mother’s b-day, She’s French she said,

  160. Mike E. says:

    I really like the pic of Suh standing in the hallway by the championship wall, with the trophies. I think it has a certain feel of destiny to me.

    • herdfan says:

      LOL…that gives us another tie.

      • Mike E. says:

        When I saw that picture, it just gave me the feeling that we’re going to once again be a championship team. Think like a championship team, play like one. I think we need to have that mindset. No more 8-8, no more mediocrity. Suh STOMPS mediocrity!

  161. Mike E. says:

    Happy Birthday Son’s mom!

  162. Try Pod says:

    What do you think of John 5? He’s seems pretty innovative.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I don’t know of him, but I’ll look more into him. I see he’s a guitarist.

      Did you ever listen to Bill Bruford ‘One of a Kind’?

      • Try Pod says:

        I will- I promise! As a matter of fact, I’m gonna go on Google play right now and see if I can download it!

        frickin ball-breaker…

  163. Tim Knight says:

    The Colts are real good because Luck is real good. He takes chances and goes for it. Maybe Tannehill is more reserved but Montana was different than Marino and he won a lot more. It’s a team game. It’s funny to me how that gets forgotten. Luck is more like Marino as a gunslinger and Tannehill is more like Montana with a much better arm and even more athletic. But does he have that level of competitiveness to win that Joe Cool had?

    That’s what we need to find out.

  164. The Flying Pig says:

    You full frontal perverts!!!

  165. Ken says:

    Tim Knight says:
    March 11, 2015 at 10:27 pm (Edit)
    I think we devalue other priorities in cases like this. Do you just go to Miami for $4-6M more instead of staying in DET or going to OAK? Quality of life plays a role in it, team fit, talent around him. He’s impressed with Tannehill. Do we always have to ignore that type of stuff and make it a negative?
    I don’t view what I said as a negative. He is maximizing his pay day there is nothing wrong or negative about that. I know people want to make it a grander statement about our organization. I don’t see it as that. He didn’t go to Oakland because reportedly they couldn’t escrow $ 60 million right now. They have the cap space but apparently not the cash. And they also have a very promising young QB so it wasn’t Suh’s love of Tannehill that brought him to Miami. In terms of Detroit, that was a personal issue. He felt insulted about the way the handled the contract negotiations in the past. The money was similar but he was clearly trying to stick it to the Lions.

  166. The Flying Pig says:


    It’s all speculation
    But there was a time when the colts were considered serious about Suh

    It’s possible that they didn’t get them, so they spent elsewhere on aging players

  167. Ken says:

    Herd, now you have to cast the tie breaking vote.

  168. Tim Knight says:

    Ken, please call Suh and ask him why he signed with us? 😉

    Oh right, only money. LOL

    • Ken says:

      Don’t need to. Look, aside from the cap issues but I like the fact that he signed with us. But I just can’t say that his signing is any kind of an endorsement of our organization. It’s an endorsement on Suh’s checking account is what it is. I don’t read anything grander into it than that or any other FA signing on any team.

  169. Mike E. says:

    Suhweet dreams everyone. I need to get some sleep. Rejoice Dolphins fans, we just got a lot better! Really!

  170. Mike E. says:

    Good choice Herd – I think it brings strong feelings of good things in our team’s future. I really do.

  171. Tim Knight says:

    Try, here. Just YouTube it!

  172. Ken says:

    I have a busy day tomorrow. I must turn in. Peace to you all.

  173. Try Pod says:

    K Tim,
    Just bought it. I’ll listen to it tomorrow. I am really looking forward to it, but if it sucks, you owe me $10.06 lol

  174. Tim Knight says:

    Try, it’s 1979, Bruford trying to find himself as a musician. LOL

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