TOM BRADY HAS BEEN SUSPENDED BY THE NFL
Here are some excerpts from the statement the NFL released yesterday:
The New England Patriots were notified today of the following discipline that has been imposed for violations of the NFL Policy on Integrity of the Game and Enforcement of Competitive Rules relating to the use of under-inflated footballs in the AFC Championship Game of this past season:
For the violation of the playing rules and the failure to cooperate in the subsequent investigation, the New England Patriots are fined $1 million and will forfeit the club’s first-round selection in the 2016 NFL Draft and the club’s fourth-round selection in the 2017 NFL Draft. If the Patriots have more than one selection in either of these rounds, the earlier selection shall be forfeited. The club may not trade or otherwise encumber these selections.
Quarterback Tom Brady will be suspended without pay for the first four games of the 2015 regular season for conduct detrimental to the integrity of the NFL. Brady may participate in all off-season, training camp and pre-season activities, including preseason games.
Commissioner Goodell authorized the discipline that was imposed by NFL Executive President Troy Vincent, pursuant to the commissioner’s disciplinary authority under the NFL Constitution and Bylaws and the Collective Bargaining Agreement with the NFL Players Association.
Former Dolphins and current Vice President of Football Operations Troy Vincent poured on the glory that some are calling punishment. He stated:
Here, there are several factors that merit strong consideration in assessing discipline. The first is the club’s prior record. In 2007 the club and several individuals were sanctioned for videotaping signals of opposing defensive coaches in violation of the Constitution and Bylaws. Under the Integrity of the Game Policy, this prior violation of competitive rules was properly considered in determining the discipline in this case.
Vincent Continued: Another important consideration identified in the Policy is ‘the extent to which the club and relevant individuals cooperated with the investigation.’
The Wells report identifies two significant failures in this respect. The first involves the refusal by the club’s attorneys to make Mr. McNally available for an additional interview, despite numerous requests by Mr. Wells and a cautionary note in writing of the club’s obligation to cooperate in the investigation. The second was the failure of Tom Brady to produce any electronic evidence (emails, texts, etc.), despite being offered extraordinary safeguards by the investigators to protect unrelated personal information. Although we do not hold the club directly responsible for Mr. Brady’s refusal to cooperate, it remains significant that the quarterback of the team failed to cooperate fully with the investigation.
Finally, it is significant that key witnesses — Mr. Brady, Mr. Jastremski, and Mr. McNally — were not fully candid during the investigation.
SO DOLFANS REJOICE
It does not get much better than this in the offseason.
Over the next few weeks you will see talking heads like Heath Evans and Teddy Bruschi try to defend Tom Brady. You will see Cheatriots fans rationalize absurd scenarios where “Tawmy Brady” is “Gawdlike” and was too busy saving a baby from a burning building to cooperate with the investigation. Enjoy watching everyone scramble to defend a cheater. But remember, he is no less a cheater.
There will be an appeal. Brady’s camp will insist the NFL is wrong and there is no evidence submitted. People will get excited about Jimmy Garoppolo. Talking heads will say remember 2007 when the Cheats when undefeated until the Super Bowl. Expect the “Bill Bellicheat will have this team ready” one liners. Bob Kraft is probably already plotting to accuse world leaders of conspiring against the Cheatriots.
Blah Blah Blah. Who cares. Enjoy this result. We’ve known about these cheats for years, we knew it was going to come out eventually, we know its probably worse than just deflating footballs…my prediction, this is just the start.
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LMAO! Nice job Piggy! These bastards finally got what they deserved.
Gotta love it
1) 4 games
His phone must hold something juicy, appeal what ? The refusal alone should bring 4 games
2) $1,000,000
Just enough zeros to piss off a rich guy
3) 1st round pick
A beautiful silhouette on the side of a milk carton
4) 4th round pick
A little icing on the cake
NFL stood up and got it right this time
Piggy may very well be right, this may not be over
Ok, devil’s advocate- this works out to patriots advantage. Brady will be 37 y/o, this will be less wear and tear during the season, improving their chances to to be there at the end of the season. Again, I don’t really care about any of this, as the reaction by the rest of the league and fans seems rather pious and disingenuous; the only reason it happened is because they got caught.
Happy but wish it had been more. Great article Piggy!!!
Rhino, great stuff yesterday. I remember those days well also, waiting for the paper to see who we picked. Remember “plan B” free agents? I used to love seeing who we got there too.
Thanks for the story.
Piggs, once again just great work.
I’ve been busy but trying to get on here, the wedding went beautifully. It was so much fun and everyone had a great time. My little girl is all grown up now.
Yeah, they do that, don’t they (grow up, I mean)? 😥
Congrats, Son!!!
congradulations
Love it Piggy! This is what it’s all about. Getting caught red handed, whether the deflated balls gave them a huge advantage or not. I’m so tired of people pointing out the fact that it makes no difference. Who gives a fuck! It’s against the rules, and if it doesn’t make a difference, why go through the trouble of DOING it in the first place. None of these empty head radio or tv personalities can explain THAT!. The punishment is just, and the lack of cooperation from this arrogant organiztaion is damning. WTG Troy, off with their heads!
But it doesn’t make a difference! lol
Try
The only way this works to the Patriots advantage is if Garappolo is the new Tom Brady taking over for Drew Bledsoe.
Garappolo is good.He was drafted to replace Brady now they will see if he is capable of being that replacement. Remember last year they let the 2nd string QB walk or traded him. When Brady got hurt several years ago for the season they traded their 2nd string qb for a 1st rounder.
jetssuck
Yeah, but I never thought all that much of Ryan Mallett, and I don’t believe they did either
I think they traded matt casell after the season when brady was hurt for the season 2008?
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I don’t think the punishment is that bad at the end of the day
If the cheats can start the season 2-2 they are in good shape for the rest of the year
and they get a chance to see their young QB in action in Sept
the fine and the 4th round pick is nothing – a 4th round pick in 2017 can be easily returned to them – that draft is 2 years from now
the 1st round pick next year is the biggest headache for the cheats
but the league through them a bone, by releasing the wells report after the draft
if the wells report was released two weeks ago, Malcolm Brown would not be a patriot right now
If Brady just would have admitted the cheating after it occurred and Brady would have just been frank and said I just like less air in my footballs but didn’t think I was violating the rules – then he punishment may have been less but Brady might have been suspended for the super bowl.
the timing of the whole thing is advantageous to the cheats
if they just would have been up front about it we probably would not have needed the wells report.
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This is a local paper. Miami Herald would’ve blamed Philbin. Sentinel would’ve blamed Tannehill.
Have to admit, you’re 100% right Wyo. Dolphins would be torn to pieces by the local papers. Winning gets you a lot more respect. If we had been a winning franchise the last decade or so, I think the writers of the local papers would be closer to what you see in the Boston paper
jetssuck – I don’t think the Patriots thought that much of Cassel either. What has either QB done since they’ve been gone?
I believe the pats got 1st rounder for him…He was starter for KC several years and he played pretty good. We will see him with Buffalo this season because they traded for him
http://www.rotoworld.com/stats/nfl/3237/matt-cassel
The Chiefs traded for Alex Smith with Cassel on the team. He was 4-11 his first season, and then 10-5, 4-5, 1-7, and then the Chiefs traded for Alex Smith. He didn’t fare any better in MIN. NE always getsvalue for the guys they discard, that comes with winning.
Looks like Philbin is finally getting all high character players. Go Phins!
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The denial by Patriots fans, from outside perspectives, is truly delusional. This narrative that there was no evidence ….
can the lawyers on the blog clarify the legal context of the phrase: “it is more probable than not”… because I’ve talked to my wife’s cousin who has been practicing law for quite some time and she said that that phrase means there is enough circumstantial evidence to ‘prove’ guilt.
But Pats fans think the word ‘probable’ is colloquial… like “she was probably drunk, that’s why she went home with you” lol
Mike E,
I really don’t think this affects them much, if it all. It is not unreasonable to think they could split the first four games, assuming Brady sits for all four. the loss of a first, while painful, is not horrible because they stockpile so many picks and could theoretically move back into the first by packaging some picks. They are also likely to pick in the last 1/3 to 1/4 of the draft, so it’s like giving up a high second (potentially). A $1,000,000 sucks, but again, they can absorb that, particularly since they won’t be paying a first round pick the following year (saving several million, in fact).
Legacy is affected, perception is affected, but I don’t know how it changes the product on the field.
Also, Pats fans and newspapers are protecting what they perceive as their teams 15+ year ‘legacy’. Fans the last few days are STILL trying to trivialize Spygate as a non-issue.
Saw the interview with a Pats fan saying “just forfeit the first four games, don’t even play… then come back and run the table to another Superbowl”…. ahem… arrogance?!
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Jordan Phillips was CLEARLY the top rated prospect on Miami’s board at pick No. 52. Tannenbaum didn’t put board together. Said “stick to it”
Just a quick drive by but had to say nice job Piggy. That’s right let’s celebrate. I don’t care if the suspension is meaningless, if it is overturned or if Graoppolo turns into the next Johnny Unitas it’s just good to see the Pats getting bashed.
Rhino says:
May 12, 2015 at 10:07 am
like “she was probably drunk, that’s why she went home with you” lol
WTF dude. i didnt say shit to you, why you have to start dissing me…..oh wait you werent talking to me……never mind
Even the Raiders aren’t signing his lame azz.
A source tells KPRC-TV in Houston that D.J. Swearinger was waived because he refused to play special teams.
KPRC-TV is not a typical outlet for breaking news, but this makes sense. Swearinger was always a hot head on and off the field, which made him a poor fit for the culture Bill Belichick disciple Bill O’Brien is trying to build. An unwillingness to help on special teams when you’re struggling as a safety is not acceptable for O’Brien.
…another colossal waste of talent. Jordan, Gordon & Blackmon should all just hang out on the couch getting high all day….SMH
According to multiple reports, suspended Jaguars WR Justin Blackmon did apply for reinstatement to the NFL this offseason, but was denied by the league.
The Associated Press’ Mark Long reported Blackmon’s reinstatement attempt was denied, and the report has been “confirmed” by Mike Dempsey of 1010 XL in Jacksonville. The “feeling” is reportedly that Blackmon failed another drug test, though Dempsey suggests Blackmon also may have missed a test, which counts as a failed test in the NFL’s eyes. Either way, we’re not optimistic that Blackmon will be returning to the field anytime soon.
Swearinger probably doesn’t want to play STs because he knows there is a higher risk of injury. Oh the irony
Try – Agreed on ALL counts
Also take into account the 3-4 compensatory picks they always get in every draft. I’m sure the NFL will make it up by giving them more 3rd RD compensatory picks instead of 5th RD.
The NFL cannot just hand out compensatory picks. If the Pats are awarded compensatory picks that means they lost players that qualify. It would have happened if the punishment was imposed or not.
Rhino:
The Pats fans are delusional and are misconstruing the phrase “more probable than not”. That is the actual legal standard under the CBA that must the league must apply to discipline a player. The use of the phrase in the report is strategic because it was Wells’ way of saying the evidentiary/burden of proof standard has been met.
Just to put in context more probable than not is the standard that applies in all civil cases. It is a preponderance of the evidence standard. It is by that standard that such cases as medical malpractice, personal injury, corporate fraud, racial discrimination, unfair employment practices, police misconduct and many other types of litigation are resolved by. Billions and billions of dollars are determined by the more probable than not standard. Only criminal litigation applies the beyond reasonable doubt standard.
Awesome pics Pig — your are becoming a photoshop Rembrandt. Brady’s head on the platter was right out of South Park.
Ken, thanks for the legal answer. It appears, then, that Pats fans can’t get Aaron Hernandez off their minds when reading, oops, when hearing what someone else read in the Wells report. 🙂
LOL.
2008——td-int ratio—21-11 2009—-1st yr in new system 16-16 2010 -2nd yr 27-7 completion percent increazed
Career Stats—–Matt Casell
-Year Passing Rushing Fumb.
Year Team G Comp Att % Yds Y/G Y/A 300+ TD Int Rush Yds Y/G Avg TD 100+ Lost
2005 NE 3 13 24 54.2 183 61.0 7.6 0 2 1 6 12 4.0 2.0 0 0 0
2006 NE 6 5 8 62.5 32 5.3 4.0 0 0 0 2 4 .7 2.0 0 0 1
2007 NE 6 4 7 57.1 38 6.3 5.4 0 0 1 4 12 2.0 3.0 1 0 0
2008 NE 16 327 516 63.4 3693 230.8 7.2 3 21 11 74 271 16.9 3.7 2 0 4
2009 KC 15 271 493 55.0 2924 194.9 5.9 1 16 16 51 189 12.6 3.7 0 0 3
2010 KC 15 262 450 58.2 3116 207.7 6.9 2 27 7 33 125 8.3 3.8 0 0 1
2011 KC 9 160 269 59.5 1713 190.3 6.4 0 10 9 25 99 11.0 4.0 0 0 2
2012 KC 9 161 277 58.1 1796 199.6 6.5 1 6 12 27 145 16.1 5.4 1 0 7
2013 MIN 9 153 254 60.2 1807 200.8 7.1 1 11 9 18 57 6.3 3.2 1 0 1
2014 MIN 3 41 71 57.7 425 141.7 6.0 0 3 4 9 18 6.0 2.0 0 0 0
Is there going to be a test afterwards? Do I need my abacus?
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” It was our intention to accept any discipline levied. Today’s punishment, however, far exceeded any reasonable expectation. It was based completely on circumstantial rather than hard or conclusive evidence.”
Multiple choice:
A) statement from the defense lawyer on the Hernandez verdict.
B) statement by Robert Kraft on the deflategate punishment.
B.
You forgot all of the above.
LOL — Kraft and Hernandez also may have the same lawyer.
Ken – Do you think you can explain the exact formula for the compensatory picks? It’s hidden in a drawer in Goodell’s office.
I don’t know the formula but there is one.
It’s far from an exact science, and it’s not published anywhere. There’s no way for anyone to argue, because the formula is unknown.
In regards to compensatory picks the good news is we should be in position to get a couple for Clay and Odrick.
Suh will nullify both
I didn’t think that mattered. I thought it was only based on what you have lost. But I don’t know for sure.
The formula is not public, but there is no doubt that it involved balancing FA’s lost and gained.
rhino
for pats fan ‘more probable then not’ is like asking them if they are taking a date to the prom. ‘of course i am more probable then not i am taking my sister’
btw, Ken, thanks for the WW2 sources. I don’t read much military history, but I did watch the series “Victory at Sea”… it was cool to find out it was based on Morison’s work. I haven’t decided if I’ll buy a copy of The Admirals (but the 2012 publication certainly makes it more relevant than the 1970’s stuff I read in grad school LOL). I may have been splitting hairs too thin within football posts… between ‘intention’ and ‘decided policy’… here is how it was presented to me in a Foreign Diplomacy in Asia class (in 1990.. for complete transparency on my perspective lol): U.S. sees Japan as our enemy because they are the ones that attacked us… we want the Soviets to open a second front from the north… they had been pummeled by Germans for 6 months prior to Pearl Harbor and insist that a second front in Europe is the only way they would ever be able to join the war against Japan (a little revenge for 1904 while they are at it, and influence in Manchuria). The only way our primary objective of defeating Japan would be to open the second front in Europe, freeing the Soviets to help in the Pacific. Stalin made this promise in ’43 and again in ’45 (Tehran and Yalta I believe) always with the stipulation “only after the Germans are defeated”. Thus, OUR war was always Japan… the means to the end being diplomacy with the only two viable allies left, GB and USSR.
For those reading our nerdy WW2 discussion… History 2 Channel had a great two part series on Germany 1919-1938 from homemade movies and diaries of German citizens. I usually get tired of the “nazi channel after 8 pm” but these were amazing due to the format. “Rise of the Third Reich” and “Fall of the Third Reich” (I believe) were the titles.
did u get the infoyesterday on the US atomic test on uss enterprise cv-6 where it came back undamaged.
I take some exception to the presentation that was made to you. It was pretty clear after Churchill made his trip to Washington right after Pearl Harbor that our focus was on Germany. In terms of men and material commitment the European theater was by far where we applied more resources. That may have been different than the public perception but it was a long and constant build up to the Normandy invasion with a sustained commitment to the European theater. There was a constant dispute between the Navy and Army as to where to place resources with an unspoken rivalry between Marshall and King.
Interesting, Japan and America shared more strategic interest in the Pacific than it had against each other. The Japanese were more concerned with Russia expanding into the Pacific, in particular into China, hence Japan’s occupation of portions of China. The U.S. was also very concerned about that but the problem was we didn’t want Japan to fill that void in place of Russia. I will have to give you the source for this. I think it was Gordon Prange who was an excellent scholar on WWII Japan.
conflict with Japan will emanate from control of the Philippines… it is in what Japan sees as their ‘sphere of influence’. By mid 1941 they had moved southward leaving a ‘horseshoe’ shape around the Philippines (lol) and Guam… not wanting to provoke. It was around this time that U.S. embargo’s were established … The Philippines was our prize when we entered the ‘race for Asian markets’ at the turn of the century.
Ken
Basically, the formula is the quality of the player lost, the new contract monetarily that they get from the new team, as opposed to the ones you pick up and the contracts you give them. There is a LOT of leeway for favoritism. We looked at this when the CP’s were announced. Keep in mind the Patriots picked up Revis for about $19M last season. They did let Wilfork go, but when we looked at what they let go, as compared to what they brought in, they seemed to do very well getting 3 compensatory picks, one in the 3rd.
Mike — I agree that there would room for manipulating the comp pick system since they don’t make the exact formula public, but I’m skeptical they do so. Goddell would know that some former employee would spill the beans at some point down the road.
I think the Pats just know how to play the system, just like they play the draft from hoarding picks and upgrading in years to come. But nothing illegal about that…..smart actually.
I will defer to your knowledge but again compensatory picks have nothing to do with the punishment meted out in this case. It may happen but if it does it is because the Pats lost 3 prime FAs.
This is what every road game crowd should do in their stadium!!!
ken and try
my dad is a wwII and history channel buff. guess i got some of that from him. mostly i am just amazed at the sacrifices of that generation. i have read i think every book there is on the mini series band of brothers. basically the book itself and every book written by any member of the 101st.
just finished up reading Unbroken and that was just another amazing story. the movie was ok but if you havent you should read the book.
Band of Brothers was written by Stephen Ambrose who was excellent historian and the book was even the better than the mini series imo.
He probably thought he was wearing a Yankee windbreaker.
Props to Yogi. One of my dad’s favorite all time players.
He’s a legend — one of the greatest Yankees of all time.
Stanger
The Pats are very smart for trading out of the 1st and picking up picks every year. They’re also very wise on when to let an aging supserstar go, they have always gotten excellent compensation over the years for doing so. (not compensatory picks, but trades like Richard Seymour, Ty Law, etc etc.). On the other hand, I don’t trust Goodell and the Patriot pipeline, I just don’t.
Supposedly there is a story out there today that the Goodell Kraft relationship is in tatters now.
IMHO it was played up to be more than it ever really was.
Rhino
More probably than not is not an evidentiary standard
Preponderance of the Evidence
And beyond a reasonable doubt are
Generally only criminal cases apply beyond a reasonable doubt
And that is bc jail is a serious penalty
Troy Vincent mentioned preponderance of the evidence in his statement
And that is the evidentiary standard that should be applied
More likely than not is consistent with preponderance of the evidence
Preponderance of the evidence simply means the evidences weighs heavier in one side of the other – so it’s the same idea
You can doubt the results or come up with alternatives with that evidentiary standard
But taken as a whole and looking at the evidence you decide that “Tom Brady must have known” even though there may be reasonable doubt
This is not a criminal trial
No one is going to jail
The existence of facts leading the NFL to say Brady must have known is enough to punish Brady
He continued mention by talking heads and cheats fans of the reliance on circumstantial evidence is annoying. You can say a lot of evidence is merely evidence. The only thing that matter is that if you look at the evidence presented, do you concludr Brady knew about it.
Personally I think it’s hard not to draw that conclusion
I didn’t even need the wells report to draw my conclusion
Brady had something like 60 snaps in his hand. He knew the ball was not properly inflated – I think that is obvious
Oh…Ken answered
We basically said the same thing
More probable than not is in essence the same as the preponderance of the evidence. It’s just another way of saying the same thing.
Dude
My piggyshop is better than that with the same pic
Ok, good for you. I didn’t make this meme.
Besides, I don’t think Bill is cheating here.
He’s just leaning forward and cutting a huge fart.
The school lunches were far more hearty back then, compared to Michelle’s commie lunch programs now.
Lol
I could not got his face to tilt down
But the look on his face does not appear relieved
He is cheating!
the flow of memes is priceless. NFL fans tired of Cheatriots are unloading!!! lol
The Goodell – Kraft relationship is reminiscent of Ireland – Sporano.
When the pressure is on (owners and fans staring down Goodell), some people will do anything (fuck over family and friends) to save their ass or look good in the graces of their bosses
Excellent analogy
Ken
Is that because he (Kraft) finally got bitchslapped?
Stanger,
The Pats are much like the Ravens in how they manage their picks and roster, however, unlike the Pats, the Ravens actually do well with their draft selections.
Ooops posted link to this article on Twitter for the peeps to enjoy
https://twitter.com/tommygirl_80/status/597933636327989248
Lmao
Belicheat a “detail micromanager”… duh… that’s what successful criminals do… control variables. 🙂
Excellent Piggy!!!
Thanks Gigi!
OD, this is for you! 😉
Rhino says:
May 12, 2015 at 11:35 am (Edit)
conflict with Japan will emanate from control of the Philippines… it is in what Japan sees as their ‘sphere of influence’. By mid 1941 they had moved southward leaving a ‘horseshoe’ shape around the Philippines (lol) and Guam… not wanting to provoke. It was around this time that U.S. embargo’s were established … The Philippines was our prize when we entered the ‘race for Asian markets’ at the turn of the century.
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This was definitely part of the basis of the conflict. The Pan-Asiatic Sphere was Japan’s goal. The slogan was Asia for Asians but much of Japan’s concerns were directed to Russia but they were concerned about U.S. influence as well.
Piggy,
Good response to Rhino and really in civil court, that is the standard as well it seems.
In civil court you are just weighing the evidence
There is no expectation that doubt cannot exist as to the results
That is just criminal
It’s a much lower threshold to be guilty/liable
May 12, 2015 at 11:45 am (Edit)
More probable than not is in essence the same as the preponderance of the evidence. It’s just another way of saying the same thing.
Agreed Ken
I personally don’t use that term
But I knew it was what Wells meant
I think that term is the actual term used in the CBA. I heard some commentator say that the other day.
That makes sense
Anyone who says it’s not more likely than not that brady knew about it is simply lying to themselves
Yeah – we do to really know
But we know enough to says it’s very likely Brady knew
Trypod:
There was supposedly a very close relationship between Goodell and Kraft. Kraft was instrumental in Goodell becoming Commissioner. He was the primary proponent of Goodell amongst the owners. They have a common bond as they are members of the same collegiate fraternity.
Perhaps you are correct- I just think the “special relationship” concept as has been presented by many was way overstated. I do not think preferential treatment took place. The other owners would not have allowed that.
Ken,
It always comes down to money when we speak of wars.
As you alluded to, Europe was more financially important at the time (GDP output) than Japan and thus it made more sense to secure against this interest by stacking Europe vs Japan.
Not to mention that logically it’s easier to defend the western coastline than the Eastern coastline.
Off to lunch and then court. I am out. Peace to you all.
“Band of Brothers was written by Stephen Ambrose who was excellent historian and the book was even the better than the mini series imo.”
Ken he makes history sing, and the book is one of my favorites. Have read a few others of his other works as well. Even had the pleasure of being at a talk he gave. He was a bit of a character, but a most interesting and brilliant one.
Rhino this is for you—
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/17/us/sunken-navy-carrier-revealed/
65 yrs later is it possible that Carriers of today would be able to withstand nuclear bombs and missiles.
Ken
i know this is rare, but i found the book Band of Brothers to be just as good as the mini series. I dont recall a thing in the book that wasnt in the series. now i will say this if you read Buck Compton’s book, he had a few different takes on some things. but he was pretty good about the discrepancies even if they were at his expense. he just basically said he didnt remember them happening like that and just moved on.
Compensatory speak
Under the rules for compensatory draft selections, a team losing more or better compensatory free agents than it acquires in the previous year is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks.
The number of picks a team receives equals the net loss of compensatory free agents up to a maximum of four. The 32 compensatory choices announced today will supplement the 224 choices in the seven rounds of the 2014 NFL Draft (May 8-10).
Compensatory free agents are determined by a formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. The formula was developed by the NFL Management Council. Not every free agent lost or signed by a club is covered by this formula.
for what its worth lol, stil not clear
from the phinsiders “football 101”
FFR,
Don’t take this the wrong way but I don’t see that WW2 generation participation as a great sacrifice but rather a situation in which they didn’t know any better. War is fucked up and the newer generations found it out through those who served in WW2 and subsequent battles and all images/video captured.
Al,
I also think the term “The Greatest Generation” is.. troublesome, at least.
Patriots change their Twitter avi to Brady’s jersey- in essence saying, “we got your back”.
As reported on ESPN Radio (Colin Cowherd).
dcoralsprings,
There is a website out there that pretty much accurately forecasts compensatory picks with their own formula. It’s what you said, net value of FA lost/gained. If you re-sign someone you cut, that doesn’t count usually from what I understand.
Ok, I’ll chime in on WWII.
I’ve read/known of this before, but it usually encites long debate which I don’t care to get into. It’s past history.
But here is an Interesting read/study on the events that lead up to, and after WWII.
Definitely not the narrative that most of America was fed.
http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-2/ww2.htm
stangerx says:
May 12, 2015 at 11:58 am
Have read a few others of his other works as well.
what ones? i sure wouldnt mind reading something you recommend of his
Undaunted Courage: Meriwether Lewis, Thomas Jefferson, and the Opening of the American West (you’d have to be interested in the subject matter……but it’s Ambrose), and
Citizen Soldiers: The U.S. Army from the Normandy Beaches to the Bulge to the Surrender of Germany, June 7, 1944 – May 7, 1945. That one is same subject as Band of Bros with a bit larger view of things, but it weaves together the narrative via a bunch of people from different roles. So it isn’t as compelling as following one unit but still a real good read.
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lol….
Al in MIA says:
May 12, 2015 at 12:13 pm
FFR,
Don’t take this the wrong way but I don’t see that WW2 generation participation as a great sacrifice but rather a situation in which they didn’t know any better.
totally agree with you. they didnt know any better. i had a client that was in pearl harbor. he said when he went into the military they didnt even have electricity at home. i get that now a days the amount of information available will never produce another generation like that one. where they amaze me is the life after the war. so many came home with problems both mental and physical but just found a way of getting on with their lives
I don’t have 1/1000 of his money, but my yard IS bigger lol
It’s a little understated, don’t you think? I don’t think Liberace would be caught dead in a place like that- well, now he might, but not when he was alive!
that pool is huge
https://twitter.com/FootballSavages/status/598160729640800256
https://twitter.com/FootballSavages/status/598163994155851776
LOL!
thanks stanger
Al
is that tom standing by that truck letting the air out of the tires?
Lol…good one.
heath evans is a hack
He is directly lying about the wells report to defend the cheats
OD: Sorry I missed your call I’m at work and could not talk (it’s just past 10 am here). Will look for you tonight in the stands – hope Tampa beats Montreal!
I pretty sick of hearing about the stupid patriots. It seems like the NFL has been only about the pats for the last 5 months. I’m over it.
Jahn: Congrats on the Warriors thrashing of the Grizzlies. I’m hoping for a Clippers-Warriors Western Conf. Finals — I’ll be at one of the games in L.A. if it’s both those teams. 🙂
They knocked us out of the playoffs last year so I would look forward to revenge! That said, this one is far from over. The W’s live and die by their shooting and the 2 losses shows what can happen when they go cold. The good news for us W’s fans is that the Splash brothers seemed to shake off the cobwebs last night. Curry is freakin’ sick, but Thompson is a critical part of that team as is D Green.
You are right it is not over but last night was a much needed and huge win. That said, I am rooting for your boys and hope I get to see them live!!!
We are happy to have your support too! You live here now. You can have a favorite team from the West too afaic!!!!
Gigi (@Mrs2620) says:
OD: Sorry I missed your call I’m at work and could not talk (it’s just past 10 am here). Will look for you tonight in the stands – hope Tampa beats Montreal!
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He called me too — Randy wants everyone to know he’ll be at the Tampa/Canadian day today. He’s going with one of his co-workers and both will be wearing Phins Jerseys.
So if you are watching the game play “Where’s Randy” when they go to crowd shots.
jetssuck: thanks for posting link (aircraft carrier) again… I’ll read it after work. 🙂
The Flying Pig says:
May 12, 2015 at 1:06 pm
that pool is huge
you call it a pool, down south we just call that an outdoor bathroom
Are you suggesting that Giselle receives her golden showers there?
jahn
thanks for calling them the W’s. i dont want that fricken verse in my head again.
LOL…saw that last night. The fact you thought it and wrote it, and I couldn’t stop singing it after I read it….well, lets just say we’re getting old. LOL..
The Flying Pig says:
May 12, 2015 at 1:37 pm
Are you suggesting that Giselle receives her golden showers there?
i am pretty sure she isnt the one receiving them.
Now that would make for an interesting Pig photoshop art work…….sure wouldn’t be office friendly though.
So my daughter has had the nastiest cough I’ve ever heard for over a week. I haven’t slept and I’m starting to lose my mind!
…which…is dangerous since I clearly have so little of it left.
Son, congrats on your daughter’s wedding!
jahndoh says:
May 12, 2015 at 2:16 pm
Son, congrats on your daughter’s wedding!
he let her marry a buc fan, ok ok ok i know she is an adult but still something like that i still think you should report a parent to child services.
Jahn
Hope she feels better. I can actually empathize with you. My son at least once per year gets this awful cough that lasts about a week, and it’s really loud, like a bark. It wears on you, all the time while you also feel helpless not being able to help your child.
I hope she feels better quick!
Yep, you know exactly what I’m talking about. Thanks for the well-wishes. This is her typical M.O. when she gets sick, but it’s never been this bad before, or for this long. She has missed 6 of the last 7 days of school…we tried to send her yesterday, but she just wasn’t ready yet.
On antibiotics now, so hopefully we can move past this thing. It strains mine and my wife’s relationship too because we’re both so damn grumpy from sleep deprivation!
I hear that, and I completely understand.
Listening to “In the City” by the Eagles. I know at least 2 or 3 of you know what movie . . . .
I must confess, I do not remember that song in a soundtrack- Tequila Sunrise?
First clue – Violent movie. 2nd clue – The song is played at the end of the movie.
Reservoir Dogs?
K, I looked it up.
https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=WN.EuiL7j22uhF3ShAemqx2ZQ&pid=15.1
Loved it, one of my youth fav’s
Come out and playyaaa
NFL Retweet @NFLRT · 3h3 hours ago
This 4 game suspension is the worst thing to happen to Tom Brady since Eli Manning
jahndoh says:
May 12, 2015 at 2:48 pm
‘It strains mine and my wife’s relationship too because we’re both so damn grumpy from sleep deprivation!’
sorry to hear that jahn, really am, if you didnt live on the other coast and cause i think so highly about you i would be a really nice guy and offer your wife a place to sleep.
LOL @ Rob!
Try – Yeah man, you gots it!
Stanger would have been ALL OVER IT! lol
Deflategate investigator Ted Wells says the Patriots believed it was a “sting operation.”
The theater of the absurd grows more melodramatic by the day. “(The) Patriots were all over me from Day 1 on why the NFL did not warn them of the complaint, and alleging it was a sting operation,” were Wells’ exact words. Both the Pats and Wells feel aggrieved, with Wells speaking out after Tom Brady’s agent questioned his impartiality. Wells also disclosed his investigation cost in the “millions.” Unfortunately, this scandal still has months to go.
if the cheats just admit they were wrong or even they just made a mistake – there is nothing left
but instead they question the league, the investigator and everyone who believes Tawmmy Brady is not perfect…
They are making it a scandal
Its going to be fun for all of us to watch
Miami Dolphins @MiamiDolphins · 3m3 minutes ago
“I didn’t see one ball touch the ground.”
Observations of @DevanteParker09: http://oak.ctx.ly/r/2z7t3
“(The) Patriots were all over me from Day 1 on why the NFL did not warn them of the complaint, and alleging it was a sting operation,”
so basically the pats and OJ were framed.
lmao “framed”
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 17m17 minutes ago
“@muttman13: “» everyone keeps sending this one, BUT I don’t think it’s funny.
GDP
What’s worse is, other people feel the same thing. On NFL radio yesterday, some guest was on (probably a former Tom Brady ass-hamster) saying that if the NFL really cared about the integrity of the game, they would have checked the footballs before the Colts game to make sure everything was right so the game itself would have been played fairly. It’s just a load of shit. They can’t take the fact that they were BUSTED!!!
they did check the balls before the game started
They were fine when they were checked
They all have the requisite PSI levels
Then they were altered by patriots staff (we think)
then they checked them again at halftime and the PSI levels were dramatically different, so the officials filled them with air at the half
they also checked the colts footballs at half (4 of them) and found them all to be in compliance (despite what Heath Evans stated which is false), so nothing was done to the colts footballs
A lot of people defending the cheats are claiming that the PSI changed based on natural ocurrances (the weather) but that is not really possible and in fact the Colts footballs did not deviate dramatically from where they started
However the patriots footballs were measured at a significantly power PSI at halftime …guess why…
Its all int he wells report
man derrick rose kid is one cute kid.
I saw that the other day, very cute
“It was clear to me the investigators had limited understanding of professional football.”
— Brady’s agent on Wells. It’s like a high school girl who just got caught in a lie going “whatever!” To end a conversation.
Piggy
Everyone on NFL radio is trying to make it seem like the NFL was wrong for punishing the Patriots. It’s so sickening.