By: Randy Campbell (OLD DOLFAN)
GAME 16: DEC. 31, 1972 – MIAMI at PITTSBURGH
THE 1972 AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
The Pittsburgh NFL franchise was founded by Arthur J. “Art” Rooney, one of the most colorful owners in league history. Rooney was born and raised in the Pittsburgh area. 
An exceptional athlete as a young man, Rooney was recruited to play football for Notre Dame, baseball for the Boston Red Sox, and was invited to join the 1920 U.S. Olympic boxing team. Football was very popular in the Pittsburgh area. However, the state’s puritanical blue laws prohibited athletic competition on Sundays (the day the NFL played most of its games). In May of 1933, in anticipation of the repeal of the blue laws, Rooney applied for a franchise in the NFL. His application was approved on May 19 in exchange for a $2,500 franchise fee. The new team took the nickname “Pirates” in reference to their baseball landlords at Forbes Field. In the early years the football Pirates were NOT Rooney’s only (or even his primary) focus. His office at the Fort Pitt Hotel was shared with the Rooney-McGinley Boxing Club, which promoted prize fights. He also spent a good amount of his time handicapping and betting on horse racing. He once won approximately $300,000 in a single day of betting in 1936. One urban legend suggested that Rooney actually won the Steelers while betting on a horse race. While this story is not true, Rooney’s gambling skills unquestionably helped keep the franchise alive during the Great Depression.
Bidding wars for star players in the 1930’s made it difficult for teams like the football Pirates to compete with the Giants, the Bears or the Packers. In 1936, with Rooney’s active input on this issue, the NFL established a college football player
draft. This gave less established teams a chance to compete. In 1938 the Pirates signed future U. S. Supreme Court justice Byron (“Whizzer”) White to a record football contract. However, White, a star back from Colorado, played just one year for Pittsburgh before leaving to play for the Detroit Lions. From 1933 to 1939 the football Pirates languished. Rooney believed a new nickname was in order. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ran a contest to pick a new moniker. The name “Steelers” was selected, in homage to the city’s largest industry, steel production. The new nickname failed to improve Rooney’s football fortunes. From 1933 to 1969 the Pittsburgh franchise never won a division title, never won a playoff game and never got close to a championship. The Steelers were so bad that many considered Pittsburgh the NFL’s version of Siberia. In 1957, Quarterback Bobby Layne led the Detroit Lions to the NFL Championship(under head coach George Wilson, who later became Miami’s first head coach in 1966.) Two years later, the allegedly hard-drinking Layne, whose play had dropped-off just a bit, was shipped to Pittsburgh by the Lions.
Layne was so incensed that he put “an eternal curse” on the Detroit Lions organization, saying “they’ll never win another NFL Championship.” 53 years later (in 2012) the Lions are still looking for their next title. In 1969, Pittsburgh’s fortunes improved dramatically with the hiring of new head coach Chuck Noll. That year, the Steelers drafted future Hall-of-Famer “Mean” Joe Greene. In 1970, future HOFers Terry Bradshaw and Mel Blount were selected. In 1971 Jack Ham was drafted and in ’72 Franco Harris joined the list of future Pittsburgh Hall-of-Famers. The Rooney family’s luck had changed forever. By the end of the 2011 season the Steelers had won more Super Bowl titles (six), and more AFC Championship games (eight) than any other team in NFL history. Their 20 division titles since 1972 dwarfs any other franchise. The Pittsburgh Steelers, the former “Siberia” of the NFL, are now considered the standard by which all other franchises are measured.
Back to Dec. 31, 1972. The 12-3 Pittsburgh Steelers had never been in a championship game. NEVER! They were here because of an amazing stroke of luck, now known as the “Immaculate Reception” with just 22 seconds left in their semi-final game against Oakland. This roster was filled with young and very talented players. And the Steelers were playing on their own home field. They and their home field crowd would NOT be intimidated by the undefeated Miami Dolphins. Pittsburgh’s offense was led by future Hall of Fame QB Terry Bradshaw. His top receivers in 1972 were the speedy duo of Ron Shanklin and Frank Lewis, who averaged 17.6 and 14.5 yards per reception, respectively. Rookie running back Franco Harris rushed for 1,055 yards and 5.6 yards per carry. Their star-studded defense featured “Mean” Joe Greene, L. C. Greenwood, Jack Ham, Andy Russell and Mel Blount.
The Dolphins, for their part, were one game away from making good on their promise to return to the Super Bowl. Don Shula, in particular, was fixated on this goal. He was the only man to lose two of the first six Super Bowls. Carroll Rosenbloom, the owner of the Colts when they were shocked by the Jets in Super Bowl III, predicted “Shula always freezes up in the big one,” Shula was determined to prove him wrong. Strategy-wise, Shula and his staff decided to emphasize what the Dolphins had done best during their first 15 games: run the football and mix-in some short to medium range passes. Schnellenberger, in particular, wanted to make more use of Miami’s tight ends. Defensively, Arnsparger believed holding Harris to under 100 yards was an absolute must, so he designed his defense accordingly.
Finsmob Unleashed 
The Roonies own lots of business’ including the west palm beach dog race track. They also own a sports bar close to hypoluxo road( WPB) this place is real cool with really cool people.
“We’re coming along great,” Tannehill said. “He’s a good player. You can see his athleticism, his natural ability, already. He made a bunch of good catches today — catches where he’s using his body, keeping the defender off of him. He catches the ball with his hands.”
http://dailydolphin.blog.palmbeachpost.com/2015/05/27/dolphins-rookie-wr-devante-parker-impresses-quarterback-ryan-tannehill/
Super Bowl Bound Miami Dolphins!
We should send this series to the team. I have no question that Coach Philbin would really enjoy it.
So when I was a kid I had a #43 Steelers jersey, Frank Lewis. Back in the day before it was cool to have a Palomalu 43.
And before anyone even starts, our loyalties were just being formed and mom was shopping for 5 kids. It wasn’t even a home jersey it was an away white.
I HOPE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU enjoys game #16 of “ABSOLUTE PERFECTION.”—I especially hope you find the historical narrative interesting and instructive. It’s hard to believe the Steelers went 39 straight years without even making the playoffs! – – And that was in a league that had about 10-12 teams for most of those 39 seasons! –The lesson to be learned is COACHING, especially the NEED for an outstanding head coach. Pittsburgh DID NOT have good coaching, and they floundered, despite all the efforts of the Rooney Family.–Miami, today, does NOT have a proven head coach. They’ve lacked one for at least the last 14 seasons, which, not coincidentally, is the length of their playoff winless streak, THE LONGEST IN FRANCHISE HISTORY!! –NO ONE on this board wants to have a 39 year dry spell like the Steelers had. –But if Ross does NOT find an outstanding head coach, the current streak could get MUCH LONGER!!–It’s no accident that George Wilson only won 3 games his 4th and final season while Don Shula took essentially the same team (with the meaningful addition of Warfield) and turned them into champions!
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Having the “RIGHT COACH” is, IMHO, the single most important factor in building a Super Bowl winner!–Talk to you after work.
OD, if the “Immaculate Reception” hadn’t happened and the Raiders went on to win where would the Dolphins – Raiders Championship game have been held?
I don’t care what his wife say’s!
He’s fun to have around!
Miami Dolphins cornerback Brent Grimes does a handstand during an NFL organized team activities football practice, Tuesday, May 26, 2015, at the Dolphins training facility in Davie, Fla. (AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee)
http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/gallery/sports/football/photos-miami-dolphins-otas/gCS28/?ecpm=pbp_social_twitter_sports_sfp#7336222
http://www.trbimg.com/img-5564d6cc/turbine/sfl-photos-miami-dolphins-ota-practice-may-26–003/650/366×650
That is pretty cool
I’m trying to do handstands
I can;t hold mine very long
Woop Woop!
We going to the Super Bowl!
great piece OD
Well done once again, OD.
I would love to see the 2015 Dolphins go to the Super Bowl and shock the shit out of everyone. 🙂
shocked!
LOL
Shocked!
http://www.thephinsider.com/2015/5/22/8644317/don-shula-accused-of-forcing-players-to-take-painkillers-to-remain-on
FYI
all 32 teams were named in the lawsuit
Exactly it wasn’t unique to the Dolphins but I am sure the Dolphins and Shula probably did stuff like that just as everyone else was.
yes but goes back the farthest with Tom Landry and don shula. It still doesn’t make it right what they did.It’s a despicable act where players had to agree to drugs or be cut the players had no leverage. How many players were given a second chance with dolphins and meractously played great for them. Was it because they were forced to take shots and play. Jake Scott didn’t talk to shula for years—-Why?
Jetsuck:
Stuff like that goes back a lot further than Shula and Landry. It may not have been named in the suit but there are all kinds of stories of coaches getting players back into the game when hurt. Lombardi used to deal with concussions but having another player take the concussed player back into the locker room and smacking him upside the head to shake the cobwebs off. A little different protocol exists now. I don’t know if it makes it right or not but it was what they knew and believed at the time.
I don’t doubt that some stuff like that happened. It was the mentality and mindset of the coaches and players at the time. In hindsight we now know better.
That’s pretty much the case with lots of things in society. Different times had different principles. People used to smoke everywhere, drink and drive etc.
Hey Tim I still do all that stuff. Oh wait a minute.
At least Shula didn’t deflate any balls nor was he stealing the Redskins or Vikings play calls.
Oh, boy- I was wrong, it really does exist. I mean, if she doesn’t know the truth, who would?
https://celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celeb-news/kylie-jenner-has-some-questions-about-chemtrails-154817355.html
If a Kardishian says it it must be true.
I came to the same conclusion.
I read that earlier. LOL
Hooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwlllllllllllllllllll….. Thats the sound of the wind passing through the ear canal into the giant vacuum in her head where a brain normally would be.
jetssucks, back in the day football was a really tough game, tougher than today for all sorts of reasons – rules, equipment, medical etc., and just like with anything else, men didn’t have to play if they chose not to.
You’re an ex-military guy, you think everything done there is right?
To threaten a player and fill prescriptions in their name is wrong and will always be wrong past or present. The suit claims the players were not made aware of the consequences of playing or even the extent of their injuries. You can’t compare the military with a game.
Shula was a good coach but if these allegations are proven true then he could be stripped of all his wins and I believe this is the correct punishment for jeopardizing players long term health and to a extent lifes
local sports announcers say this is possible…
You can’t change history even though dopey organizations do it all the time specifically the NCAA. Yeah okay strip him of wins that actually happened. So who won the game then?
I can compare human behavior in any walk of life. We’re talking about someone forcing others to do something regardless of where.
Joe Paterno was striped of his victories. I would guess the NFL would throw these coaches under the bus before the whole NFL be held liable.
Alright I gotta go to a deposition. I am out for now. Peace.
Love how people think I only talk to people on twitter I’m smarten than. This is why I hate new twitter followers.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/new-york-jets-top-10-pick-from-just-two-years-ago-now-on-roster-bubble-171428353.html
If our CB roster wasn’t chock full id take a chance on him. I think there is talent there, just needs to be developed.
Problem with investigating past team conduct in today’s society is you arent judging them based on standards of that era, and you are punishing them as if they were doing it today with all the knowledge we have from today. They might as well go back and sue Riddell and other equipment manufacturers for not having as advanced equipment as they have today or sue the team physicians for not knowing how to treat/identify injuries as they do today. Each of these also contributed to these injuries and the treatment of them but they are going after coaches and the NFL for not being WELL advanced past the normal knowledge level of others of the time. I know even when i was growing up a common treatment for someone suspected of a concussion was if they didnt vomit or have really bad spells of dizziness, just to make sure they stayed awake for a certain period of evaluation time, evaluation mind you that included your mother/father watching over you not a team of doctors.
former Miami Dolphins Hall of Fame coach Don Shula, would tell players they would be cut from the team if they did not take the painkillers and keep playing.
“NFL teams and their medical staffs withheld information from players about the nature and seriousness of their injuries, while at the same time handing out prescription painkillers, anti-inflammatories and other dangerous drugs to mask pain and minimize lost playing time.” They also contend prescriptions were filled in their names without their knowledge.
Why not just eliminate NFL records across the board from that era and pretend it never happened. This isn’t isolated to one or a few coaches. I bet when they really look at it, it would be hundreds.
I don’t know about that but from the book griese wrote he says a former dolphin said it was a different culture when he played with the vikings.
I’m sorry I shouldn’t have mentioned the book that Bob Griese wrote PERFECTION becaud no has read it or plans to read it. It has no dirty little secrets that are believable considering that Shula was a church going guy.
Great as ever OD……and onto the Superbowl.
I forgot that Bradshaw didn’t play most of the game. Guess any perfect season has to come with some “what ifs.”
Tim Knight says:
May 27, 2015 at 10:26 am
You can’t change history even though dopey organizations do it all the time specifically the NCAA. Yeah okay strip him of wins that actually happened. So who won the game then?
I can compare human behavior in any walk of life. We’re talking about someone forcing others to do something regardless of where.
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I still think Paterno should have vacated his wins. Thats a disgusting thing he did and overlooked in order not to potentially hurt his chances to continue to win games. He knew it might lose him some scholarships and potentially even put them in a situation where a deeper investigation turned over more skeletons, so in order to avoid it he turned a blind eye to child sexual abuse. That hit such a disgusting level i cant believe they gave those wins back.
There are some cases that i think can be made for vacating wins, and yes it probably should be more reasonable in some cases but in case of gross negligence or something outside the norm of the day, as i think was the case with Shula, i cant see them doing it, nor do i feel it should be done.
Penn state though practically have walked away from this untarnished. They were forgiven as a team, they forgave the coach that let it go on, and now they are right back where they were before the scandal. These kids endured more years of this abuse than Penn State did punishment for it, and they will suffer with it for rest of their lives. That one IMO is complete and utter bullshit.
If teams are gonna run at us they’ll probably run to the left side (weak side) and stay away from suh, wake, jenkins.
They’ll be running on us, and away from Suh makes sense. Have a feeling that if goes up the middle it will be only to keep us honest or on draw plays.
Jenkins played weak side last year. I believe McCain is playing SOLB to start the offseason.
Still shocked by Tim’s 9:32…
Parker shared first-team reps with veteran Greg Jennings. Obviously that’s not a competition any of our wideouts wins against Parker. Wonder if it will stick that way to they’ll rotate who shares to get each of the top 4 equal reps with the firsts.
I think they rotate the WR’s pretty much across the board. As was said many time they want a receiver to line up in multiple places, so i think there are times when we will see Jennings and Parker on the field at the same time. Only guy i see as odd man out is Matthews and i think he only touches the field in rare circumstances. I definitely understand his desire to be traded even if its a pussies way out of a bad situation. Matthews needs to nut up and win a spot in a rotation. GB one year pretty much flip flopped what receiver had the hot game James Jones, Cobb, Jennings, Nelson, and Driver. If you look at it its similar setup here and if Matthews just shows he can produce we will have a roster full of productive receivers.
jetsssuck says:
May 27, 2015 at 10:35 am
Joe Paterno was striped of his victories. I would guess the NFL would throw these coaches under the bus before the whole NFL be held liable.
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He was given them back, and to me his failure as a coach for sake of winning was WAY worse.
I believe both are disgusting.
Kong was pretty shocked too.
D, I just don’t believe in changing history after the fact. It’s not realistic. We already know the outcome, changing it is phony for the sake of appeasing certain folks.
Hmm, perhaps worth a look in our ZBS if Benton thinks he doesn’t have the right OG’s yet.
Redskins released RG Chris Chester.
Chester, 32, has started all 64 games for Washington the past four seasons, but isn’t a fit for coach Jay Gruden’s power-blocking scheme at just 305 pounds. The veteran remained a serviceable guard last season, especially in pass protection, so he should get another look. The Redskins save $4 million against the cap with the move. Spencer Long is now the favorite at right guard.
Stanger, it’s early to decide who should start between Parker & Jennings. They both could start at times with Stills on the sideline in rotation. Lots of interesting ways to go with this versatile group.
It also could be very different week to week based on an opponent matchup.
Go Phins!
I don’t think it matters because we use 3 WRs a lot and guys need a breather.
Pretty much said same thing in reply to Stanger above. Its going to be a rotational system. People (not saying you specifically Stanger) cant seem to break themselves of the mentality that the offense has 3 WR’s and they are static and they only run their own route trees depending on the X Y Z placement. We have X X X receivers. and sometimes will have X X X X. Hell if you count the TE’s we potentially have X X X X X lol. You get the idea,
Its a LOT harder to defend when you have versatile receivers that can line up anywhere and run any routes. You cant predict plays, you cant pick a specific receiver to double. You have to commit both safeties to stay home and sit in their own zones. Its really really hard to stop an offense built around receiver who catch every pass their way, and take short quick passes (nullifing pass rush) and turn those into big gains. Look at the receivers we have and tell me thats not what we are building.
D — the system is like that much more than most, but there does to seem a substantial difference in what routes tend to be run depending on whether a receiver lines up in the slot or on the boundary. At this point I’m assuming that Parker and Stills will be boundary Landry slot. Jennings very well may be the swing guy who does some of each.
What did Tim say???
Can’t believe what Tim said at 9:32!
LOL @ Piggy!
D, yes agreed on our WR corp….one thing Philbin came to Miami saying from day 1, was he wanted receivers that can play all the spots.
Then Jeffro ran out and spent $60M on 9route Wallace….smh
Wow, crazy stuff I’m reading here this morning. I’d bet a lot of coaches were doing bad things to keep their players on the field. It was a different culture in the NFL back then, These guys were like gladiators. Did gladiators still get paid if a lion ate his head off? It was a different world, just like many MLB players used to take amphetamines. You can’t change everything to suit today’s standards. While it may have been wrong, it was commonplace across the NFL, so that’s all there is to it.
LOL
Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
This year we’ll truly see who Ryan Tannehill is, and how good he can be. I honestly have no idea. But we’ve been patient long enough.
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Tanny to Suh: Hey big man, go stuff that braided coconut in the dirty laundry bin!
Dolphins in the Super Bowl?!?!
The saga of Piggy’s jeep has been resolved
(I think)
Looks like its a black jeep for me
The dealer cut a little more off the costs
So I took it.
I pick it up tomorrow
Now prepare World!
Clear the streets!!!
Congratulations Pig in Jeep!
Black is sharp but shows all scratches etc. You can also cook a steak on it during some summer days. LOL
Yep
I keep saying it about Jeeps
I don;t mind dirt or scratches or even bumps…lol
Cool you four wheeling pig.
And even if I tried to warn you off of it, black is still the best looking color of all to my mind.
Stanger, I also think we’ll see Cameron in-line, H-back, slot and wide from his TE position.
I had a black car once. Nothing looks better when clean. I had to wash it all the time though, and I did. I was insane.
LOL
My wife’s truck is black. Again, it looks great when clean. It does show every lick of dirt too though.
You are correct about it looking great after being washed but who wants to wash it every 3-4 days. I can’t get the grand kids to wash my car for 5 bucks but they can leave a pork chop under my seat for several days.
I would have went with the one with the lift kit in it. Those aren’t cheap. Good for the floods headed to NY.
I would have had to pay for the lift kit which was like an extra 10k!
Oy!! More Shula slander…..
why do you say it’s slander when Bob Griese says it happened in locker room and with the latest lawsuit it tells a believable fact with a lawsuit. YOU JUST CAN’T HANDLE THE
I don’t think anyone is saying it did not happen, rather it was the culture in the league at the time. Notice all 32 teams were sued. I am not even judging if ti was right or wrong it was just part of the league.
LOL @ The Few Good Men reference
Whatever you have it out for him….if every team was found guilty of the same thing why would you single him out? Nothing you post here will ever change how I view him or think about him. You can’t handle that truth.
The degree of being competitive shouldn’t be determined by people/coaches who have no good intentions for a person/player and is only looking out for their own benefit. I forgot to mention Howard Schellenberger was named in the lawsuit also. It wasn’t common throughout the league the lawsuit contents from the early 70’s to the 2000’s.
Piggy, living in the city you’ll probably get a bunch of dings anyway with crazy drivers, cabbies, rickshaws and bicycles etc.
Yep
Its almost unavoidable
Piggy is getting ready to do some 4 wheeling in NYC.
Forgot to say congrats on the vehicle.
Thanks
its really for getting out of NYC on the weekends
This is what it looks like
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Very nice — happy for you!
One of my daughters’ friends has one of these and drove it to my house on Memorial Day when we had a BBQ. He gave me and another friend a ride around the block. The thing probably only does 40 MPH but can basically drive over anything.
Piggy:
Come take it for a test ride to Connecticut some day. I will buy the beers.
You got it
On my bucket list for the summer
Piggy inspecting the car at the dealer . . .
I approve of the troth holder
Saw the Eagles in Bakersfield last night – was an awesome show in a not so awesome arena (actually was terrible) but was a blast. Got home at 2 am in the office at 7:30….weeeeeeeeee!!!!!!
Did some one say “Dolphins in the Super Bowl”?!?!
Piggy will be cruising the streets of Manhattan looking for this
aka Hooker….
Hey, I didn’t mean that!
With one of those you won’t need the lift kit then. LOL.
Piggy
You need to go to north Jersey, pick up Tim, and then head south to my place. Ken can meet you at Tim’s.
all on the bucket list
I’m free!
Its almost like having wings!
We can hang at Mike E’s man cave again.
What’s this about the Dolphins in the Super Bowl???
The NFL has been on the receiving end of numerous lawsuits from former players in recent years, and yet another surfaced last week on the basis that all 32 NFL teams allegedly pushed the use of painkillers on their players.
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It’s all Coach Shula’s fault…..no one else…..SMMFH.
Shula is the biggest drug kingpin in history, we already established this a few weeks back. Come on keep up with the times. LOL
It’s all the Cookies and Kush out here I’m in a daily “fog” …. 😛
LOL I am picturing Shula as Scarface with his desk piled high with coke….if only I could photoshop…. 🙂
The new lawsuit alleges that several former head coaches and assistants, including Hall of Famer Don Shula, Howard Schnellenberger, Wayne Fontes, Mike Holmgren and Mike Tice, told players they would be released if they did not take painkillers and return to the field.
I wonder how Jake Scott feels about this.What was his disagreement about?
I don’t think it had anything to do with pain killers. I thought it was over his contract and money but I don’t remember the specifics.
I wonder what greenies and brownie pills are as described by players in the book “perfection”. Why were they put above the players lockers shelf’s?
Ken—-you need to look it up because it was about taking a shot in PRESEASON that Shula demanded he take. He was traded shortly there after because he refused.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2006-11-19/sports/sfl-spjakescott19nov19_1_noonday-breeze-defensive-lineman-manny-fernandez-front-porch
Still, when he wouldn’t shoot up the shoulder with painkillers for an exhibition game, Shula and Scott got in a yelling match in the locker room. The next day, Scott was traded to Washington for the forgettable Bryan Salter.
tim,
didn’t jenkins play on wake side? I thought that’s strong side. But what do I know.
Wake is on the strong side. Jenkins is listed as a WOLB but he likely played both sides and there were times we went 5-2. The strong side is whatever side the TE is on so that can change. Wake rarely goes to the other side regardless though.
Off to lunch. BBL. Peace.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2010-05-08/sports/fl-dave-hyde-0509-20100508_1_shula-s-sons-orange-bowl-elevator-don-shula
Should I click on the link that says “Do Heat appreciate the magnitude of Game 5?”
(A tear falls from Piggy’s eye)
Those were the days…
NO! lol
The strong side is usually considered where the RT lines up, which is usually where the TE lines up next to. Like Tim said, they can move the TE to the other side too, but the strong side is the RT side.
Dolphins in the Super Bowl?
Is that a typo?
::::singing:::: “Orange Bowl elevator, Shula goes up, Jake Scott goes down
That is a bad visual…..lol
what did Shula say to him? FU and Jake Scott said NO FU and when the elevator opened Jake Scott decided to leave the OB and head back to Hawaii instead of attending the 10 year reunion of the perfect season.
Still, when he wouldn’t shoot up the shoulder with painkillers for an exhibition game, Shula and Scott got in a yelling match in the locker room. The next day, Scott was traded to Washington for the forgettable Bryan Salter.
Don “Scarface” Shula….
Piggy,
Saw this random rerun on NatGeo on deadliest small animals and one of the animals in particular reminded me of you LOL
Deadly to humans or to crickets? LOL
I’m a little surprised that the clip doesn’t mention that they are perverts too!
so is jenkins weak side or strong side. I thought he always played on the left of misi or behind wake. I didn’t think they moved him but maybe I missed it.
He’s listed as a weakside OLB but plays both sides based on where the TE is lined up. Most LBs are somewhat interchangeable. Jenkins can also play MLB in spots.
stanger
i just won a million dollars, so the fest is on me this year. just let me go ahead and reply to this email and we are going to party.
I don’t think you can judge someone for past actions by today’s standards. Back in that era, it wasn’t known what damage could be done by playing with a concussion, or whatever strain or sprain you had. I think it was more if nothing was broken then you take something to get rid of the pain, problem solved. By the same token, I’ve heard it said that the importance of drinking water, staying hydrated wasn’t considered important back then, it was seen as a treat, something sissies did. So there’s that.
Medicine and how you treat illnesses and injuries evolve like everything else. George Washington was bled to death because at the time it was thought that was a way to rid the body of infection. So Jake Scott should just be happy they had stopped that practice by the time he was playing football. 🙂
Maybe they should have told the players the severity of their injuriesand in some cases not at all informing them instead of giving pain masking drugs so they could get back on the field also. Hydration was very important dating back to the early days.Gatoraid was invented at UF also and it was first called stokley I believe.
in other news……..i see jetssuck is trying to get shula stripped. you kinky devil you
LOL!
just telling it as it is.Shula was far from being a angel as some believe on this blog.
Tim,
The truck you showed above is called “Duece-and-a-Half” in military parlance, for its capacity of 2.5 tons. It was also designed to run on five different types of fuel. I think they were generally governed to about 50mph when I was in the army, and of course they had all-wheel drive capabilities.
I’m not sure that was the exact truck but it looked like that. The owner said his was an infantry/supplies transport.
jetsssuck says:
May 27, 2015 at 12:50 pm
just telling it as it is.Shula was far from being a angel as some believe on this blog.
if that is what floats your boat to pop others bubbles then go for it dude. you seem to get some perverted enjoyment out of it. so have at it
Jetssuck: He (Coach Shula) is the reason we won 2 Super Bowls and have the only undefeated season in NFL history but evidently he pissed you off somehow. I don’t care what he did to get this team to win — he did it. And you singling him out of a lawsuit against all 32 teams is kind of silly and they did not have the technology back then that they do now. But feel free to carry on with the bashing….you will not tarnish his legacy.
So you approve of drug use? You approve of threatening players to play hurt without concern for players health?
I don’t care what he did to get this team to win — he did it.
Strong side is whichever side the TE lines up on. It can be the left or right side. That’s in a standard line. Nowadays, we see teams putting in an extra OL more and more. Basically, the strong side is the one with more guys on it.
Yep!
Thats for the OL though, they dont reflect on the D side same way. WOLB is your pass defense specialist and generally lines up onthe side of the TE or covers the flat for RB’s,
BoulderPhinfan says:
May 27, 2015 at 12:05 pm
tim,
didn’t jenkins play on wake side? I thought that’s strong side. But what do I know.
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Tim Knight says:
May 27, 2015 at 12:12 pm
Wake is on the strong side. Jenkins is listed as a WOLB but he likely played both sides and there were times we went 5-2. The strong side is whatever side the TE is on so that can change. Wake rarely goes to the other side regardless though.
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Who taught you guys football 😛 JBB. WOLB is the left side OLB which is the side Suh and Wake play on but its not called weak side on the DL. its just LDE, LDT.
Also pretty sure even if they did call it weakside, after Suh was brought in to play there he had it changed.
Wake and Suh play on what is typically the strong side. Back in the day the TE normally lined up on the right side of the offense, left side of the defense. That’s why RTs used to be considered the run blockers and didn’t have to have the feet of the LT who faced the weak side pass rushers.
getterdone
yep, pretty much what i picture
Gigi (@Mrs2620) says:
May 27, 2015 at 11:36 am
Whatever you have it out for him….if every team was found guilty of the same thing why would you single him out? Nothing you post here will ever change how I view him or think about him. You can’t handle that truth.
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If 99 people told you the earth was flat and then one person told you that is wrong by providing proof that the earth is not flat would you still believe the earth is flat because you can’t handle logical reasoning or because you are afraid or lazy to research. Maybe you just can’t handle the truth and have to accuse people of slanderous lies when you are knowingly wrong.
Don;t ever accuse me of being afraid or not wanting to research. I see what is out there – ALL 32 TEAMS NAMED in the lawsuit and yes Coach Shula is in there as well. And? Whay are you even a fan of this team if you bash the ONLY coach who has led us to win 2 Super Bowls? Keep bashing away — have at it you obviously are getting ogff on doing so.
Typo city…ooops
I said you were afraid to research because you didn’t research the book perfection and you accused me of slander. FYI the lawsuit names all 32 teams from the early 70’s to the early 2000’s. The whole league (32 teams)was not guilty of 1 time period. I heard if you go to the new world trade center observatory you can see the curvature of the earth…..
If the lawsuit proves shula as knowingly pressuring players then I will disown him but I have always been a dolfan. The players names and coaches names mean nothing to me only the logo on the helmet.
gigi
that isnt the worst thing that low life shula did. he would walk right past a gum wrapper without picking it up. what a POS
Strong side D is governed by what the O does as Randy says. The side of the D that is opposite of where the TE lines up is the Strong side. Therefore your strong side LB (SOLB) goes over to that side to cover the TE. If they split the TE out wide, sometimes that changes what some DC’s do about that.
LMAO FFR — yeah we have Mr. Clean as Head Coach now and we have not win diddly. Let him carry on he is weirdly enjoying bashing the Coach. Gotta run had yesterday off.
When I started playing organized football, we would get one water break in a 2 hour practice. And, if the coaches didn’t like the way practice was going….they may skip the water break.
And, even though most already knew that concussions could be serious…you still played whenever you “got your bell rung”. It wasn’t about the coaches though…players simply weren’t gonna not play just because your head was ringing and your vision was blurry. nobody said anything about it to the coaches.
That can’t be right, Gatorade was invented so hydration has never been in question and all history must be revised to reflect that.
FSU says they had a hand in it but that is completely wrong UF invented it. I remember the stokely glass bottles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatorade
shut the fucking door. shula is the culprit for making the world round. that bastard. i mean there are a few people i wouldnt have minded pushing off the edge of the earth.
The horror of wanting your best players on the field. I get what Shula did was wrong by our standards but by the standards of the time he was doing what he thought was in the best interest of the team. Morality is to a certain extent situational. Many good people in Rome thought it was perfectly acceptable to send people to die in the arena. Many good people in the south owned slaves. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison were great men and help found this country but owned slaves. Are they bad men? Should we write them out of the history books?
The weakside LB is usually the guy they take out to put in the nickleback, although a few teams take out the MLB
Not always, the WOLB is usually the LB who can cover the most ground.
It’s more like the other way around there Nomar!
#garrard
Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
Why do Dolphins fans feel they need to discredit every QB to make Ryan Tannehill look better? Is that helpful?
OMFG!! LOL
I dont use my own hero worship for a person as a defense for forgiving their wrongdoings, but i still dont think this was a isolated thing. Shula may have been guilty of this, but so were all other coaches and teammates. I think its improper if he did what he did and knowingly put players in harm’s way for his own goals, but again if the culture of the NFL was such, then its really a disgrace on the sport not the guy who coached his team same as any other in the NFL. All you gotta do is look at almost any classic football game from that era and people are bruised bloodies walking around in dazes almost eery play. It was a tough game played very rough and id bet money not one coaches but othe rplayers encouraged the “take a pill and get your ass back out there” culture.
Anybody ever seen what Bear Bryant did to players? lol
LOL, I had a comment mentioning that but it got lost in cyberland here. All kinds of theories.
Jetssuck: Why are you singling me out (again)? Others here agree with me but whatevs carry on with the bashing. Nothing you say buddy is gonna change my opinion of him.
jetsssuck says:
May 27, 2015 at 1:21 pm
I said you were afraid to research because you didn’t research the book perfection and you accused me of slander. FYI the lawsuit names all 32 teams from the early 70’s to the early 2000’s. The whole league (32 teams)was not guilty of 1 time period. I heard if you go to the new world trade center observatory you can see the curvature of the earth…..
If the lawsuit proves shula as knowingly pressuring players then I will disown him but I have always been a dolfan. The players names and coaches names mean nothing to me only the logo on the helmet.
“Got his bell rung eh? Give the pansy a salt tablet,” was my coach’s standard line. We never heard the word concussion used in football one single time. We might come out for a play or two if we were thought to be so dizzy as to be a liability to the team, but never were taken out because we were thought to be hurt. Only wrecked knees and compound fractures got guys taken out. Blood meant nothing, and shoulder injuries were also considered too wussy to come out for.
herd,
I grew up in Iowa. We never even heard of Gatorade until about 1994. Lol
Our water breaks were one garden hose that a coach turned on…and then we all stood in line waiting to drink from it.
Totally agree with Randy on Gatorade being “the new thing.”
I played in South Carolina … We had spigots coming out of the back wall of the gym for football practice and the water was hot. Two road games played country teams that had pump handle well water. You caught it in your cupped hands or stuck your whole head under there while your buddy pumped.
We were not allowed to have water during games cuz it would make us need to pee. We had water breaks about every hour at practice and of course at halftime of the games. At those times, We would always take a handful of medium small dark gold colored “salt tablets.” I never knew what was really in them.
Just ask Vontae Davis about the importance of not having to pee during a game or practice.
finfanrob says:
May 27, 2015 at 12:40 pm
stanger
i just won a million dollars, so the fest is on me this year. just let me go ahead and reply to this email and we are going to party.
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Congrats ffr — a kind but unnecessary offer. Does that mean you are coming for sure though?
Randy says:
May 27, 2015 at 1:13 pm
When I started playing organized football, we would get one water break in a 2 hour practice. And, if the coaches didn’t like the way practice was going….they may skip the water break.
And, even though most already knew that concussions could be serious…you still played whenever you “got your bell rung”. It wasn’t about the coaches though…players simply weren’t gonna not play just because your head was ringing and your vision was blurry. nobody said anything about it to the coaches.
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Ive had really bad twisted ankles, water on the knee that looked like someone stuck a water ballon in place of my knee cap, my wrist dislocated and my hand folded back until the back of the hand touched my arm, i dont even want to know how often i had my eye gouged or my nuts stepped on. Only with the wrist thing did i eve come out or even tell the coaches i was hurt. Wrist thing i had the doctor pop it back in, put a ice pack on it and wrap it up and i went back out and finished the game. I twisted my ankles so bad i had to walk on crutches for most the week but i made sure they taped it up good before the game and i played. When i ran off the field for the wrist thing, they yelled at me to get back in there because i was our best OL, and the LT. When i hurt my ankle they gave me shit about it but the decision to play that game was mine. I wanted to be out there more than they did. I bet a lot of what was done was to make them dig deep and gut it out, the way it was done during that time and i dont think anything he did was outside the norm for the culture of that sport at that time. If you want to argue that culture, i can get that but singling out any specific coach Shula or otherwise i think is misguided.
sounds like you were pressured by the culture of the times. I played sports when growing up and our parents would not tolerate coaches who put their interest above any child’s health. I played in the early 70’s and if you were hurt then you didn’t practice or play. The doctors and coaches had ethics unfortunately professional coaches sold out their souls and people/coaches of non professional teams emulated them .
Yep. I don’t think Shula was/is a saint- he was a mean, cursing sob to his players- but to judge him by today’s standards for things that 40 years ago were considered common practice is not being fair, either.
Bingo.
the lawsuit contends this happened over different time periods of 40-45 years not all at once.
stanger
didnt you hear????? the fins cancelled the 2015 season cause the online was so bad in the OTA yesterday.
For some reason I didn’t believe FFR when he said he won… one million dollars. LOL
gigi and jetssuck sittin in a tree
k i ss i n g
first came super bowls then came drugs
then gigi shoved the old fucker to his death……the end
am only 57 i’m not that old
Tim Knight says:
May 27, 2015 at 1:41 pm
For some reason I didn’t believe FFR when he said he won… one million dollars. LOL
that bs tim. i got the email. all i have to do is call the number and i am rich……rich i tell you. ha ha……hhaaahhhaaahahahaaaaa.
Was it the exiled african prince or the saudi investment banker who is trying to purchase some plundered Iraq riches for really really cheap?
D,
My senior year, I almost completely tore my MCL in the last week of practice before our final game. My coach called me into his office a couple hours before the game and told me he wasn’t going to let me suit up. I was the team captain and MVP, and it was my final HS game….I’m like “what the fuck, coach?” He said he wasn’t going to let me suit up because he knew if he did I’d find a way to sneak into the game….and he was right. I’d have figured out a way to get into the game even though I could barely walk. That’s just the way it was back then. It hurt more standing on the sideline watching than it would’ve to have played. it totally sucked to stand there and watch. My teammates never said anything, but I could see in their eyes that I’d let them down.
D says:
May 27, 2015 at 1:32 pm
Ive had really bad twisted ankles, water on the knee that looked like someone stuck a water ballon in place of my knee cap, my wrist dislocated and my hand folded back until the back of the hand touched my arm, i dont even want to know how often i had my eye gouged or my nuts stepped on.
cool me too, but i got a deal, i only had to pay her $200 plus tip
jetssuck
you know the one you should be pointing a finger at is yourself. poor shula sold out just cause fans wanted the team to win. so when you look at it like that is is all your fault.
really—-that’s a interesting take because I always thought Shula was a good coach who was better prepared and conditioned than the other teams.Explain that?
hhhmmm learn something new every day. never new they made the mascot the team captain and MVP in Minnesota
D says:
May 27, 2015 at 1:50 pm
Was it the exiled african prince or the saudi investment banker who is trying to purchase some plundered Iraq riches for really really cheap?
neither. mine is legit. it was closed with
Congratulations!!!
Yours Sincerely ,
Dr. Brian Holland.
Promotions Coordinator
a fucking doctor. so this has to be legit. i mean a fucking doctor
why don’t u mess with them and find their ip address from email (properties) then act along until you want to let them know they are wasting the whole day with nothing to gain. You can look up ip addresss and you can get location of where they are at.
Usually a Nigerian Scam.
http://antifraudintl.org/threads/dr-brian-holland-euromillion.19591/#post-51277
jetsssuck says:
May 27, 2015 at 1:55 pm
really—-that’s a interesting take because I always thought Shula was a good coach who was better prepared and conditioned than the other teams.Explain that?
nope, he just had better drugs
we have had a lot of players busted for coke. If I am correct we are short by 3 coke busts of all the other teams combined.
oh great just fucking great
well everyone can thank getterdone now for me not paying for the fest.
You can raise the money by selling off your 5000 magazine collection of Playgirl….LOL
gotta go guys—-Please make sure Gigi doesn’t swim to the edge of the earth falls off.
Are they still trying those Nigerian 419 scams?
Oh yeah i wanted to say, Mike E, you said baseball players took amphetamines, considering your team loyalties do you mean cocaine when you say amphetamines? 80’s Mets might as well been Miami Mets with as much blow as was passed around in those locker rooms lol. I hear when Strawberry dies there are already people signed up to do a line of his cremated ashes, will be the first time in decades anyone can get anything close to as pure shit as that 🙂
That’s all well known but they weren’t the only team doing it. A lot of people were doing coke in the 80s, and I mean a lot. Probably even your grandmother. LOL
I dunno need to ask Mike about that generation….