Depth Chart for Defense
| LDE | DT | DT | DE |
| *Wake | *Mitchell | *Suh | *Vernon |
| *Shelby | A. Johnson | *Phillips | *Fede |
| Coleman | K. Johnson | Francis | Montgomery |
| Dieke | McCarthy | Drew |
| WLB | MLB | SLB |
| *C. McCain | *Misi | *Jenkins |
| Sheppard | Tripp | Paysinger |
| Vigil | Hull | Hewitt |
| Luc | Knott |
| CB | Slot CB | SS | FS | CB |
| *Grimes | Br. McCain | *R. Jones | *Delmas | Taylor |
| Davis | Aikens | D. Jones | Thomas | Bowman |
| Bo. McCain | Gary | Thompson | Seamster | |
| Lippett | Kovacs |
* – indicates lock to make 53
Roster Cutdowns
Keep total on 90
DE 4 8
DT 4 7
LB 9 11
S 5 7
CB 6 9
28 42
So, is he right
Where is he wrong?
Does he have the D-Line aligned properly?
Didn’t he really go out on a limb with the locks, lol?
Finsmob Unleashed 
Cam is an athlete, RT is a QB.
An athlete with a gun for an arm.
Jeff George had “a gun for an arm”…
Mike E. says:
June 2, 2015 at 3:40 pm
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What do tits have to do with how we’re building our team?
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What do tits not have to do with ever conversation. Tits are the Kevin bacon of body parts. They are just 7 layers of separation from any subject.
With Tim on here, they may be more like 1 to two layers of separation from and actual picture of them.
Can’t argue with that logic, any of it.
I’m an ass man myself.
Right on cue. LOL
Hey Jahn. ever come across one of those Oar fish that are washing up on Cali beaches?
Holy crap!! Those things are huge
Damn! That’s at least 8 feet
They look just like some of those sea monsters that you see illustrated in those old books about the tales from the sea.
Randy,
It’s happening in all major US sports. You have plenty of mediocre baseball players getting paid more than solid NFL QB in terms of guaranteed money LOL. Quite a few sub average baseball players (statistically speaking) get paid more than some Pro Bowlers in the NFL.
Anyway, in terms of offensive direction by way of rule changes, it happened in the NBA starting in the 90s after the Knicks/Bulls rivalry under Pat Riley / Phil Jackson (removal of hand check on defense, then no forearm on a guys back, then back to some vague whenever the hell you want to call it contact definition). In baseball they’ve done other tinkering as well over the years (they lowered the mound in 1969 to reduce a pitchers leverage throwing off the mound; done other things since like reduce the field distance between home and the outfield wall at many parks and also tightening the laces on baseballs).
Mike E, they can grow to almost 40 feet.
And they taste like chicken..
I guess you’ve come across them on the beach and took a bite. LOL
No shit? That one looks about 10 feet
Dogs will eat ANYTHING . . .
Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora now26 seconds ago
Cam Newton gets $103.8M in 5 year extension. Averages close to $21M/yr with $60M guarantee. Get massive $67.6M in 1st 3yrs. Wow.
Cam got paid. Good for you Cam
is it chicken, oarfish
….get it
(piggy lowers his head in shame)
Well Played Sir..
Mike E, the one I posted says 23 feet. Here’s another.
That is just a photo of the lady on the ends large intestine
Yeah, and the guy and the dog up front came out first.
Damn, that sucka is a Fukushima Fish…see its scales glowing?
With Cam signing
Tanny moves farther down QB list of salaries
and then even farther after Wilson and Luck sign
People should be estastic that we signed Tanny when we did…but some people have poopey in their pants
I’m happy we did it when we did it.
The malls in SoBe are happy Lauren, er I mean Ryan got paid.
Next up is a baby.
LMAO @ Goodell’s quote…smh!
Commissioner Roger Goodell has declined to recuse himself from Tom Brady’s appeal hearing.
“Because protecting the integrity of the game is the commissioner’s most important responsibility, I decline to rewrite our CBA to abrogate my authority and discretion to hear any appeal in a conduct detrimental proceeding,” Goodell said.
Goodell has now boxed himself in, if he reduces the suspension everyone (except the pat fan) will want his head or at least will settle for his job.
Dave Hyde @davehydesports
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a coach kiss a player’s butt more than Mike Zimmer is doing now to Adrian Peterson.
GDP,
LOL
LOL
Lol. Zimmer is not an ass kisser. I love the way that guy coaches and talks honestly about his team. The guy ripped his team and players often during the season. As he said, he will ALWAYS fight for his players. Smart comment by a head coach. And, putting this whole thing behind them as fast as possible makes zimmer’s job easier.
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And what the hell is up with all these oar fish dying?
Randy, are you aware this is an issue in the Minn schools of St. Paul?
http://eagnews.org/teachers-complain-chaos-reigns-as-st-paul-schools-spend-millions-on-white-privilege-training/
ST. PAUL, Minn. – Have the taxpayers of St. Paul spent nearly $3 million over the past five years to bring chaos and danger to their schools and students?
Apparently so.
In 2010, the St. Paul school district began a contractual relationship with the Pacific Educational Group, a San Francisco-based organization that tries to help public schools deal with achievement and disciplinary issues involving black students.
PEG packages and sells the concept of victimization, for a very high price.
It claims that the American education system is built around white culture, tradition and social norms – aka “white privilege” – to the unfair detriment of black students.
PEG believes that black students will only achieve if school curricula are customized to meet their cultural specifications. It also rejects the concept of using suspensions or expulsions to discipline black students.
The relationship with PEG has been costly for the St. Paul district, in more ways than one.
Randy, I’m not being argumentative here, just asking. Seems there is a larger educational agenda being politically pushed across the nation, example this Common Core crap too.
The “white privilege” stuff is really disturbing indoctrination…IMO.
Maybe I’m the dumb uneducated one. I just don’t get how any of it is helping students.
It’s not, it has that whole Ebonics thing written all over it.
Thanks, I thought so…
GD, it’s also an insult to black students who don’t think that way and just go to school and do well. You know the ones who aren’t black enough. Yeah that’s not too racist. SMH
Agreed.
Billy Turner is on Finsiders Live right now…funny, he said in his off time, JuJwan James, Jarvis Landry, & he, took up long boarding, so they go out and do that together.
Billy Turner sounds cool, well educated, sincere about his profession.
Hope he turns out to be a huge asset here. I’m sure he will.
GDP
I don’t know anything about that education stuff, but the issue or concern about how nonwhites are treated or disciplined by schools has been a talking point for awhile?
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Part of it for me is that it always seems to be in relation to African Americans. What about Asian kids…Hispanic, Indian, Native American, poor whites? Are we going to design curriculums for every specific cultural, ethnic or racial group. But, I’m probably just not educated well enough on the subject. I’m not sure if I understand all the nuances of the issues. People these days just like to mess with shit constantly. Lol
I heard politicians who are saying diversity is what makes America stronger and then I have heard arguments where making diversified company workforce makes us weaker as a nation. It’s a interesting argument for both sides.
There is nothing wrong with Common Core.
Common Core as it was originally conceived is merely an attempt to ensure that a HS diploma means the same thing at every school. If one school says you need 2 years of calculus to graduate and the other says if you sorta know your times tables and that’s good enough, then we have a problem in America. It would be like some football leagues saying a first down is every 8 yds and others it’s every 12. Common Core said every kid to move up from Grade X to Grade Y needs to know the following: Skill 1, Skill 2, Skill 3, etc. and it does not matter if the kid is white or not, a football star or not, a southerner or not, a female or not, a Mormon or not, a new immigrant or not, etc.
I do not see anything wrong with that. I disagree with Affirmative Action, Ebonics as a viable alternative to Standard English, accepting lower performance from any group because of demographics, etc.
I can c your point of view and believe you are right in having 1 goal instead of different for evryone who is different. The gov’t makes it difficult to discriminate even if they are lessening one’s education. I guess that’s why we have private schools so our kids and parents can actually get a good education not diminished by gov’t.
The same goes for employers who are afraid to hire the most qualified when they have a minority who is interviewed. Most American companies have gone through the hiring correction to get diversified to avoid lawsuits. Bruce Jenner types may be the new employer new hires to politically correct workforce in companies afraid of getting sued.
If a company has a gov’t contract the gov’t can ensure the company is diversified to meet the gov’t wishes.
Bruce Jenner golfs from the men’s T or women’s T now?
I hope Bruce Jenner doesn’t want a new T box in Golf that is. I guess if the gov’t gets involved it would create jobs to create those new T boxes.
I think diversity sounds good at first, as in “Be proud of who you are and where you came from.”
But as it is currently being implemented, it has come to mean new immigrants are allowed or even encouraged to form essentially non-American cultural enclaves within our cities where laws are ignored and criminals are harbored and mainstream Americans are not only unwelcome but in danger.
Continuing to allow this can only result in an ungovernable landscape composed of “territories” drawn along “tribal” or “clan” distinctions ruled by “strong-men” enforced by thug militia. Like Afghanistan. or Iraq.
Instead of continuing to integrate a melting pot, there are those with an agenda to divide once again. Sad but true.
Why does the most diverse nation on the planet continue to focus on cultural differences in the most negative way? It’s not about race, color and creed for most citizens in America, it’s about character and behavior. Some act like we’re back 50 years ago. If you haven’t seen progress I feel bad for you because your head is in the sand and you’re part of the problem.
It’s not that hard to be a decent person. All it takes is having an open mind and promoting freedom. Why is it so difficult?
Mike E, if you go to miamidolphins.com and watch the interview with Billy Turner, he reiterates what I said about this being the 2nd year in this new ZBS and offense as opposed to last year when only the coaches knew it and all the players had to learn it. Now a lot of guys know it and can play faster as well as pass it on to the new guys. It’s the 2nd phase and we should be ahead of last year. So hopefully that encourages your vision of our OL this year. 🙂
I hope so Tim, what else can I do?
I’m considering us to have 23 starters (4 WRs), with that said we have 11 guys on rookie contracts and 11 not + Tannehill who is a tweaner (kind of still playing on his rookie contract, but not). Mostly all the starters not playing on their rookie contract are making a good salary. Having 11 guys on rookie salaries is huge, and what allows us to pay guys like Suh.
Next yr we’ll have some guys coming up like OV and Miller, and a couple like Suh and Wake who are in the breaking the bank category, all the more reason to hit on the rookies.
Wake won’t be breaking the bank here, that’s for sure.
I don’t agree with Randy above saying you shouldn’t build to beat the power in your division, sure you want to beat everyone, but you have to win your division first. Why are certain divisions built a certain way, because they have to beat the beast first. The yr after Rickey ran for 1850 the other 3 teams went out and signed big nose tackles to stop him.
LOL, when someone says it’s not debatable, the first thing I think is it is, and that’s bully talk, radio show host do it all the time. Not debatable refers to an absolute, like saying at noon in Miami the sun is out.
It’s more prominent than people think. The first goal of all coaches and teams is to win their division. How could it not be about focusing on matchups within the division? LOL
If you don’t win your division, you don’t usually make the playoffs (See Dolphins, Bills, Jets).
The one team that shocked us a few years back was the Raiders of course, they went 6-0 in their division and finished 8-8. LOL
bad division
I consider Billy Turner a better 3rd rd prospect than Dallas Thomas and regardless of what Thomas does, I think Turner will excel and flirt with pro bowl status at some point in his career.
I respect Dbolt’s college scouting ability and he was all about getting Turner here regardless of position, even LT. Just get him here. Turner has an attitude I like – not overwhelmed, grounded, articulate and talented with the size, strength and athleticism to excel. I don’t see a guy here who will stand for being pushed around. He also practices against Suh everyday who he confirmed plays the LDT position opposite him at RG with Wake on his edge at LDE.
So can we put that one to bed? Now let’s work on strong side vs. left and weak side vs. right? LOL
I see the same thing in Fede, you look at these guys play and they just seem to have this aura about them that they’ll overcome, and Douglas too. These are guys that also seem to love the game.
I like Fede. It seems like whenever he got a chance to be on the field he was making plays. He looks like he can be what Odrick was supposed to be.
Fede replaces Odrick and McCain replaces Jordan, and both become good players. We forget about a lunch pail DE like Shelby too. Add him to the mix with Suh, Mitchell, Phillips and… I say A. Johnson.
LDT Suh/Phillips
RDT Mitchell/A. Johnson
We didn’t even mention Wake and Vernon. LOL
What’s up FUers? Nice job again Naples. But I thought Lippett won the starting CB job yesterday.
He did and already has 3 ints on his official stat sheet. On the not so fast thing, Will Davis was also a ballhawk in OTA’s his rookie yr.
LOL. It’s a nice sign that Lippett had a good practice but he is going to be a work in progress to make the transition. And also he got those picks vs. 2nd and 3rd team. That includes Josh Freeman. I think the ball boy has a chance to pick Josh Freeman. I really wonder what happened to Freeman because there was a time he was playing lights out with Tampa and then he crashed and burned big time.
It wasn’t about who threw the ball, not sure why that matters, unless the ball was thrown right to him. Word is he showed his WR skills while playing CB.
From what I understand from reading the recaps on Freeman is that he was awful. That’s not a knock on Lippett and only 1 of Lippett’s picks was of Freeman and yes the most important thing is he was showing WR skills at DB but my only point is that it is one thing to do that during OTAs vs 2nd and 3rd string guys and another to say you are ready to do it on Sunday with 1st team.
You know who Lippett reminds me of at obviously an early stage? Everson Walls. Not overly fast but long, athletic, instincts and has good hands to pick off passes. Oh yeah, Everson Walls went undrafted in 1981 when the draft was at least 12 rounds. 😉
Everson Walls would either pick you off or give up the big play. He got burned a lot.
He was really savvy and made Dallas better than worse by a lot. I think you’re cutting him short here. If he had Deion Sanders’ speed he’s probably the best corner ever. That guy always impressed me. Really knew the game. He’s like the Zach at MLB of corners. Zach also got it handed to him. But they were both 70-30 players with big play ability. Like in hockey +/- ice time.
Everson Walls was feast or famine. He wasn’t a bad CB but he did give up the big play. Part of it was he was a gambler and always looking for the int and part of it was he was not the fastest guy but overall he had a fine career and was a quality CB. I think Lippett has much better physical skills than Walls did at least in terms of the comparison you proffered.
Ken, Lippett is almost 6-3 as opposed to a 6-1 Walls. We’re also talking a 2015 prospect as opposed to a 1981 prospect. Things have changed. But what Walls could get away with in the 80’s will not be the same game for Lippett in 2015.
If Lippett reminds me of Walls I’ll be happy.
I think Lippett can be what Sean Smith was supposed to be. A tall CB with WR skills who can defend the jump ball.
That would be cool too. Smith could do that to a degree, but he was exposed in off-man/zone where he had to close and tackle. You have to play him like Sherman.
Alright time for turning in. Been busy the past couple of days. Hopefully I will be able to get on at some point tomorrow during the day. Peace to you all.
boy what a game tonight for college womens softball world series.Tomorrows winner wins it all. I learned something tonight that softball batters have less time to react to a pitch than a MLB batter since the pitching mount is closer and the average speed of pitches is 55-65mph.
Don’t forget about Aikens
or good ole Bobby McCain
(Piggy plays a harmonica)
I think how you build a team is always debatable. That comment was about letting a QB throw the ball away. That’s not fair, but it is legal. It penalizes the defense for doing a good job….flushing a QB from the pocket. But, for arguments sake, I’ll say even that is debateable.
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As for building a team, it’s not absolute either way. I just don’t think you build a team with beating a specific team as your priority or guiding principle. Of course it’s a consideration. If a FA or draft choice also fits a need in beating a division strength…sure, but, there’s just too much change in the NFL today to do that every year with all your moves. The Black and Blue division ain’t the black and blue division anymore, but they still call it that. Lol
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The thing that I do think happens is that divisional opponents expose each other’s weaknesses b/c they get to know them so well and play them more. And, when something gets exposed, the natural response is to fix it. I really do think it’s more about scouting your own team, being honest about it’s weaknesses and strengths and building from that foundatuon of knowledge.
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Either way…nothing is written in stone. There’s plenty of ways to build a team.