A Look at Our Linebackers

by Mike E.

#53 WLB Jelani Jenkins 6’0” 243

Jelani Jenkins

Jelani Jenkins was drafted in the 4th RD (pick #104) of the 2013 NFL Draft. In 2013, Jenkins played ST’s and made 15 tackles. In 2014, due mostly to injuries to the Dolphins LB corps, Jenkins got a shot to play, and made the most of it. Jenkins played 15 games in ’14 starting 14 of them. He finished the season with 139 tackles (83 solo), 3.5 sacks, 1 pass defensed and 2 FF’s. It was a pretty successful season for the 2nd year player, and undoubtedly, the Dolphins are hoping for more from Jenkins.

Jenkins is penciled in as the starter on the weak side, and I don’t see any reason why that would change. He’s shown the ability to handle the position, and was a sure tackler in a unit that didn’t tackle well. He has good coverage skills, and the Dolphins will need him to step up and do more this season to get this team into the playoffs.

#55 MLB Koa Misi 6’3” 244

Koa Misi

Koa Misi was drafted by the Miami Dolphins in the 2010 NFL draft out of Utah, in the 2nd RD, pick #40. Misi played mostly DE in Utah, but the Dolphins wanted to try Misi at LB. In 2010, the Dolphins were running the 3-4 defense, so Misi was obviously too small to play DE, and that was left for the big boys Kendall Langford and Randy Starks. Misi was a little heavier coming out of college, between 255-260. He’s shed some weight to get some quickness to better the play LB in a 4-3, where more speed is required. Back to ’10, Misi played SOLB in 16 games, starting 11. Misi tallied 41 tackles (29 solo), 4.5 sacks, 2 passes defensed, and 2 FR’s, (1 for a TD).

In 2014, the Misi at MLB experiment began. Due to injury to Dannell Ellerbe, Misi seemed like the best man for the spot. Misi played in 11 games and started all of them. He finished with 66 tackles (50 solo), 1 sack, 2 passes defensed, and 1 FR. Injuries hampered Misi all season long, as his entire career has gone. Fair or not, it’s tough to count on Misi for an entire season. Misi did however, bring solid tackling skills to the LB corps, and was one of the guys that when he hit the ballcarrier, they went down.

Health is the key for Misi. He has the size and the ability to play MLB, and he may actually get some competition from Kelvin Sheppard once the pads go on, and the hitting commences. We’ll get to Sheppard later.

#58 SLB Chris McCain 6’5” 250

Chris McCain

Chris McCain was signed as an undrafted free agent in 2014. He played college ball for California. McCain was a special teams star last season, but also saw action in a few special packages at LB and DE as a pass rusher. This year, it seems the Dolphins intend for McCain to have a larger role as SOLB.

McCain will be competing with a veteran ST’s ace who we picked up from the New York Giants Spencer Paysinger. I’ll get to Paysinger later. McCain showed big play ability against the Patriots in Game 1 blocking a punt on ST’s. That’s what I call bursting on to the scene. The Dolphins feel McCain has the skills as as a pass rusher, and the ability to cover, so it should be a solid competition for the SLB spot.

#42 LB Spencer Paysinger 6’2” 236

(08-09-14)  Spencer Paysinger during the New York Giants and Pittsburgh Steelers preseason game.                                       Photo by Joseph E. Amaturo

Paysinger was signed as an undrafted free agent in 2011 by the New York Giants. Paysinger is a ST’s ace, who will now be in the competition at the SLB position with 2nd year player Chris McCain, also a ST’s player. In 2013, Paysinger got an opportunity to play LB due to many injuries, and played in 16 games, starting 10. He finished the ’13 season with 74 tackles (56 solo), 1 sack, 1 FR, and 1 pass defensed. Last season in NY, Paysinger was back as a special teams player. No offense to Spencer, but I’m hoping Chris McCain steps up and takes the job, and never looks back. I see a higher ceiling with McCain, due to his age, size and speed.

#52 MLB Kelvin Sheppard 6’2” 250

Kelvin Sheppard

Kelvin Sheppard was drafted by the Buffalo Bills in the 3rd RD of the 2011 NFL Draft (pick #68). In his rookie year, Sheppard played in 16 games, starting 9 of them at MLB. He finished with 70 tackles (46 solo), 1 FR, 1 pass defensed, and 1 tackle for a safety. In 2012, Sheppard started 15 of the 16 games he played in, all at MLB. Sheppard finished the ’12 season with 80 tackles (56 solo), 2 sacks, 1 pass defensed. Sheppard was traded to the Colts for Jerry Hughes ( Seems like Buffalo did pretty well in that trade!) (In 2 years with BUF, Hughes has 20 sacks, 5 FF’s, 1 FR and 1 TD)

Back to Sheppard, who played the ’13 season in defenseless INDY. Sheppard played in 15 games at MLB for the Colts, starting only 7. He finished with 46 tackles (20 solo), 1 sack and 1 FR. Sheppard was signed by the Dolphins after being released by the Colts in 2014. He played sparingly in 14 games, starting 1. Sheppard totaled 24 tackles (17 solo), with 1 FF.

I think this former starter may have something to prove, and he may give incumbent starter Koa Misi a run for his money. Sheppard, much like Misi is a thumper. Sheppard isn’t particularly fast, and may be somewhat of a liability in pass coverage, but he can hit. It should be a pretty good competition for the MLB spot.

#57 Jordan Tripp 6’3” 245 ?

Miami Dolphins rookie linebacker Jordan Tripp (57) at Dolphins training camp in Davie, Florida on May 27, 2014. (Allen Eyestone / The Palm Beach Post)

Jordan Tripp was drafted by the Miami Dolphins in the 5th RD of the 2014 NFL Draft (pick #171). Tripp appeared in 13 games last season, mostly on ST’s/ Tripp was drafted at 234 lbs, but it seems as if he put on some good weight for this season, but since I haven’t seen an official weight for him, I’ll go with 245 with a question mark. He could even be more than that. Tripp is a very athletic LB, with good speed (4.67 40), excellent acceleration (3.96 20 YD shuttle), and agility (6.89 cone drill)

Tripp has an outstanding non-stop motor and a very good work ethic. I’m not sure whether he’s ready to compete for a starting spot now, but he’s definitely worked hard in the offseason, and looks the part. Tripp was an instinctive player at Montana, we’ll see if he can make it happen in MIA.

#49 Zach Vigil LB 6’2” 240

Zach Vigil

The Dolphins signed Zach Vigil as an undrafted free agent in 2015. Vigil had an exceptional college career at Utah St. He piled up the tackles, higher each year culminating in a 156 tackle (79 solo) effort. In addition, Vigil had 9 sacks, 1 INT, (returned for a TD) 1 FF, and 4 passes defensed. He has the size, and athletic ability, but according to scouts, where Vigil is lacking is instincts. he’s a see and react type player rather than diagnosing and anticipating and reading what is happening. Perhaps he can learn some of that, we’ll see.

#45 Mike Hull LB 6’0” 237

Mike Hull

The Dolphins signed Mike Hull as an undrafted free agent in 2015. Hull, like Vigil had a nice college career, especially when he got a chance to play at “Linebacker U” Penn State. In his Senior year, Hull totaled 140 tackles (75 solo) 2 sacks, 1 INT, 2 FF’s, and 5 passes defensed. Hull had a real nice showing at the NFL combine, running a 4.68 40, 31 reps of 225lbs on the bench, a 6.99 cone drill, and an 11.52 60 YD shuttle, a top performer in each of those categories at the LB position. What Hull couldn’t hide at the combine was his short arms (30.5”) That’s an issue in the NFL trying to shed blockers, when they likely are going to have a 3″- 5” reach advantage. It’s unfortunate, because Hull has great instincts and sees the field well, and is a very reliable tackler. He’s also a little short at 6”, but as Dolphins fans, those of us who enjoyed the great play of Zach Thomas for a decade can appreciate the fact that it doesn’t always matter.

#48 Jeff Luc LB  6’1″ 256

Dec 6, 2014; Cincinnati, OH, USA; Cincinnati Bearcats linebacker Jeff Luc (1) during the second half at Paul Brown Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Mike DiNovo-USA TODAY Sports

Dec 6, 2014; Cincinnati, OH, USA; Cincinnati Bearcats linebacker Jeff Luc (1) during the second half at Paul Brown Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Mike DiNovo-USA TODAY Sports

Luc played college ball his freshman and Sophomore years at Florida St. but then transfered to Cincinnati, where he played both his Junior and Senior years.  Luc piled up 156 tackles last year for Cincinnati (65 solo), 6.5 sacks, 6 FF’s (YES, SIX!), and 4 passes defensed.

Luc is described as a power-lifter that plays LB  He didn’t paricipate at the NFL combine, but at his pro day, he ran an average of 4.59, but didn’t really stand out in any other drill.  Very thickly built, Luc is excellent at shedding blockers, but due to his stiff lower body, he isn’t the most agile player on the field.  Luc can play, and with 6 forced fumbles, he can obviously lay the wood too.  He was thrilled to be back in FLA playing for the Dolphins as a Miami native.


#46 Neville Hewitt LB  6’2″ 219


Hewitt played college ball at that school, uh, can’t think of the name . . .  MARSHALL!  That’s it The Thundering Herd of Marshall!

Hewitt played only 2 years at Marshall, and finished last season with 123 total tackles, (42 solo), 5 sacks, 1 INT, and 2 passes defensed.  According to NFL Draft Scout, Hewitt runs a 4.69 40.  Hewitt had surgery early in 2014 to repair a herniated disc and pinched nerve, but didn’t miss any playing time.  NFL Draft Scout states Hewitt has good instincts, and is able to shed blocks well, despite not having ideal size.  Some sites have Hewitt listed as 219, and others 231, so figure he’s somewhere in the middle.  At 6’2″, that’s a little light, so he will need to add weight.  Hewitt faces a tough battle to make to make the roster, but Hewitt is known for his perserverance, as his mother is currently in prison for drug trafficking.


In summation, I think the 2 biggest competitions will be at SLB between Chris McCain and Spencer Paysinger, and the MLB between Koa Misi and Kelvin Sheppard. For Paysinger and Sheppard, this could be their last big shot at a starting spot, so I expect them to do everything they can to make it happen. Misi is a survivor, so I don’t expect him to lay down either. McCain is young and inexperienced, but he has the size and ability to be a starter, but it will likely come up to how quickly he develops and learns his responsibilities. It could easily go either way.

As for Jordan Tripp, Zach Vigil, Mike Hull, Jeff Luc and Neville Hewitt, I think the latter 2 will have a hard time making the 53 man roster. They definitely face some tough odds. Tripp seems safe to make the roster, and despite the fact that he bulked up and looks the part, I think he may still have to be a special teams player and part time contributor to our defense.  Luc, Hewitt, Vigil and Hull will likely have to make a strong impression on ST’s or in game action at LB to make the squad. In any case, I hope we go with best 3, regardless of draft position or salary. Again, my guess is Jenkins (almost a lock), McCain (strong showing in TC and preseason), and a surprise upset at MLB by Kelvin Sheppard, possibly helped by a nagging Misi injury

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288 Responses to A Look at Our Linebackers

  1. D says:

    Ive alsways been terrified of Sharks. I have spent a LOT of time in the Gulf, and a few times in the ocean, but i never feel complete comfortable in them. I am always scanning for fins, and if a big fish bumps into my legs, ill probably get out of the water at least for a little while. Now i just stay out there to protect my kids, between the chance of sharks, rip current wearing you out and sticky feeling salt water gives you when your drying out, oh and sunburns, im just not a fan of the beach these days. Only way i like a shark is on my plate. It may have been Jaws that did it to me, i cant really remember an event where i started being afraid of them.

  2. Pro Football Focus ‏@PFF 51s52 seconds ago
    With Mathis being released by the Eagles today, here are the 5 teams with the biggest need at left guard:

    1. Mia
    2. SF
    3. NE
    4. NYG
    5. Sea

  3. Jahndoh30 says:

    Thank you Tim, it was one of many bad calls/no calls, but it was the most blatant at a critical juncture of the game. In game 2 Steph had established position, planted his feet on defense and Lebron drove into him. Steph never moved, but Lebron tripped and fell. Yup…foul on Steph Curry.

    I understand as a Warrior fan that some, even lots of calls are going to go in Lebron’s favor, but as a sports fan in general, I’m not sure it’s fair to ask any team to overcome both Lebron James AND the referees. The foul calls in this series are 2-1 in favor of the Cavs right now. THREE games in. I can overlook some missed calls here and there if I believe they’ll generally even out in the end, but the Golden State Warriors were one of the cleanest playing teams in the NBA this season, and also one of the best defensive teams…suddenly for the first time and after a patter established through 100+ games, They’re a team that plays dirty and hacks? Ugh…

    If the Warriors are to be NBA champions, they HAVE to beat both the Lebron James’ and the Referees. It’s a tall order, but if it happens it’ll make the title that much sweeter.

    • The Spurs did it last year and the Mavs a few years back….it can be done. Warriors need to play smarter stop shooting so many 3s early, play David Lee earlier and more.

      • D says:

        Probably wouldnt hurt if they made more of them too. They should have cruised past them in game 2 but their 3 point shooting has been bad.

      • Jahndoh30 says:

        I actually don’t agree with how you say they have to do it, in fact I think the opposite, they had their first poor shooting games of the post season in games 1 and 2 and try to play in the paint toe to toe with them in game 3. This is the best 3 point shooting team in NBA history..if they’re going to win it, They have to win it playing to their strengths. Shooting slumps be damned.

        I do like your optimism though, and if they can pull one out tonight, I think the series shifts definitively back in their favor. Should be a good one.

        For the record, I told my Mother in law she’s not invited to watch anymore finals games at my house. 🙂

      • My boy Jahn!!! LOL @ mother-in-law!! I kind of did the same w/my guy he invited a friend the other day to watch the game and Sunday we were at his Mom’s. I told him I don’t want to watch with anyone around I can’t concentrate on the game (also bad luck!). Green has not played well at all and their size has killed the Warriors inside with rebounds – they are getting ALL the loose balls and rebounds, lucky shots, etc. Tide is about to turn though! Klay needs to wake the f-up too. I expect a tie after tonight….

  4. Jahndoh30 says:

    Saw Styx and Foreigner just last summer. Was an awesome show…except for the women who were in their 30s in 1985 who dressed like they were in their 20s, and now dress the same way even though they’re pushing 70. LOL…

    • manitobafinfan says:

      ewwwww … I liked Foreigner for first couple albums, then they went sappy and fall into the MEH area for me.. .

    • D says:

      I lived there for about 7 years. My aunt, cousin and my cousins kids live there still.

      • D says:

        There have been problems with Hammerheads, Bulls and Tigers for a while now and there are usually more attacks and sightings when the Navy ships come in. Sharks follow the ships and eat the garbage.

  5. steveccnv says:

    Could the jets actually be sane this yr, taking after their coach Bowles, and Buffalo be the circus team?

    • D says:

      Jets have improved in some places but think with the new coach and new GM, some of the key player still just not performing well, they probably just slightly better than last year. Buffalo i think is worse than they were before. They got some new pieces and some of them are talented ones, but im not sure they are as close as a team as previous and they still have a very bad QB situation.

      • steveccnv says:

        Buffalo had a great running game last yr, say all you want about Shady catching the ball, but he can’t run like Spiller. The QB situation is much worse, as Horton was good last yr for them. I expect 7-9 this yr for the Bills.

  6. naplesfan2010 says:

    I have been told by a marine biologist that shark meat is very bad to eat because they do not eliminate urea. Not sure if that is still science.

    • D says:

      To be blunt they excrete waste through their skin, but the meat of some of the faster moving one like Mako i think is ok. I mean it might explain some things about me lol, but i have eaten it a few times and i didnt seem to have any adverse reaction to it.

  7. steveccnv says:

    Come on Jahn, sure LeBron is getting the calls, but GSW show no sense of urgency, everything is ho hum, and the ho humming is led by Steph and Clay.

  8. Jahndoh30 says:

    Come on Jahn, sure LeBron is getting the calls, but GSW show no sense of urgency, everything is ho hum, and the ho humming is led by Steph and Clay.
    Steph always has the exact same outward appearance. It’s kinda like Philbin. People don’t see the outward emotion, but in the case of Steph, it’s the same calm that allows him to fight through and be what most consider to be the best pure shooter in the game. He’s cool as ice.

    Klay’s statline so far in the series would surprise most people. He’s quietly the sole reason the warriors are still in the series.
    43% FG
    33% 3Pt
    23 PPG (one better than his regular season average)
    and 90% FT

    • Jahndoh30 says:

      PS, I’ve been watching these guys play regularly for 3 seasons, that’s their demeanor. Like it or not, they don’t get all emotional and reactive, they just keep on shooting, and eventually, reversion to the mean wins out and the shots fall. Kinda why I said they need to keep shooting 3s if they’re gonna win the series. It’s what got them here, it’s what got them the 5th best reg season record in the NBA.

      Just conversing, I’m not surprised there are people out there who think these guys are ho-hum, but if you watched them for several years you know that’s the way they carry themselves, and the results have been phenomenal, regardless of how this series turns out. Those guys have a lot of post season wins under their belts at this point.

    • Jahndoh30 says:

      One last thing in 2 of the 3 games this series, the refs have single handedly taken minutes away from Klay. He’s never been a hack, Was first team all-pro NBA defender this year, and yet 2 of 3 games he gets in early foul trouble? Just doesn’t pass the smell test…

      • Jahndoh30 says:

        Last last thing…Tim Duncan has the most ho-humm demeanor I’ve ever seen in the NBA. 5 championships is the result.

  9. Jahndoh30 says:

    Lol @ Gigi, I knew you’d get a kick out of that mother in law comment.

  10. Jahndoh30 says:

    Anyway, thanks for letting me monologue 1000 words about the Warriors all. Gotta run an errand and than get my game face on. 🙂

  11. Mike E. says:


    I think that’s the same tour I saw, Paradise Theater. They also made a huge show for the song Mr. Roboto. It was pretty cool.

    • manitobafinfan says:

      I can see how Mr Roboto could make a great production..

      I am outta here now… Nice ta have the time to pop in during work.. don’t happen often..

      have a great one all..

  12. Brian in NY says:

    Come on Jahn, the calls have been horrible both ways! The bottom line is the Cavs are playing very good defense, and the Warriors aren’t hitting thier shots. Hopefully that ends tonight, because I don’t wan’t to see Lebron win another championship. BTW, are you having a party tonight for the game?

  13. naplesfan2010 says:

    stupid cheaters fan after they signed Matt Flynn.
    k buddy but YOU aren’t.

  14. CavalierKong says:


  15. Tim Knight says:

    Naples, that’s not the case with all sharks not eliminating urea. I’ve fished with my neighbors and caught small sharks and they made what they call shark bites (battered and fried) from the ones that are clean and they were delicious. You can do a smell test to determine the ones that don’t eliminate urea.

  16. naplesfan2010 says:

    wow the blog read those as meaning html language…that is very cool for this website.
    The quote was “Belicheck is smart as a tack.”
    which is a stupid thing to say.

  17. Mike E. says:

    Piggy needs to do a new poll.

    Do we sign Evan Mathis?

    A – YES!

    B – Not sure, depends on how much $$$ he wants

    C – Let’s give the young guns a shot, either Thomas or Douglas

    D – NO WAY! He’s too old, we don’t need him!

  18. naplesfan2010 says:

    Shark meat has an unpleasant taste due to the presence of high concentrations of the waste product urea in the tissue. Sharks store urea to maintain an osmotic balance with seawater so as not to have a water loss problem. http://scuba-doc.com/shrks.htm

  19. naplesfan2010 says:

    Re: How do sharks urinate, and from where?
    Date: Tue May 11 13:57:37 2004
    Posted By: Allison J. Gong, Lecturer/researcher
    Area of science: General Biology
    ID: 1083611769.Gb Message:

    Hi Brennan,

    I’m not sure what you mean by “moving out through their skin,” but I think I can explain how sharks excrete nitrogenous wastes (i.e., urinate) and how this can give shark meat an ammonia smell and taste.

    Like other fishes, sharks excrete nitrogenous wastes over their gills. The teleosts, or bony fishes, excrete nitrogenous wastes in the form of ammonia. Ammonia is a very toxic compound, and excretion of ammonia requires passing large amounts of water over the gills. Marine teleosts replace this water lost to excretion by drinking a lot of seawater and using their gills to remove excess salts.

    Sharks, on the other hand, excrete nitrogenous wastes as urea, which is a less toxic compound. A complex biochemical pathway called the ornithine-urea cycle converts ammonia to urea, which can be stored more safely in the blood. In a live shark, ammonia doesn’t accumulate because it is quickly converted to urea. When the shark dies, the urea deteriorates back into ammonia, which is why shark meat often tastes and smells of ammonia. Apparently you can remove much of this ammonia by soaking the flesh in freswater or lemon juice before cooking it.

    I hope this answers your question!

    Allison J. Gong
    MAD Scientist

  20. Mike E. says:

    Mad scientists still exist. Good to know

  21. naplesfan2010 says:

    Shark meat has been used as food in coastal regions for over 5000 years (Vannuccini, 1999). Most historical use of shark meat was local because the meat does not keep well without refrigeration. Sharks retain urea in their blood and tissues as part of their osmoregulatory physiology (Musick and McMillan, 2002). After a shark dies the urea breaks down into ammonia which imparts a strong smell and odor to the meat and which may be toxic in high concentrations. This problem may be avoided easily by rapid bleeding of the freshly caught animal and thorough washing of the carcass with seawater. Usually, the head, fins, gills and viscera are removed from larger sharks at sea, or in some artisanal fisheries immediately upon landing. Subsequent soaking of the meat in a weak acid solution (citrus juice or vinegar) may remove up to 90% of the urea (Gordievskaya, 1973). Various species have different concentrations of urea. Spiny dogfish (Squalus acanthias) have the lowest and hammerheads (Sphyrnidae) have the highest concentrations of several species measured (Gordievskaya, 1973). In addition, elasmobranchs captured in brackish estuaries should have lower urea concentrations than those taken in full seawater (Evans, Piermarini and Choe, in press).

    After bleeding and soaking, carcasses should be iced or frozen to prevent enzymatic and bacterial breakdown. Small species with naturally low urea content such as the spiny dogfish (which also occurs in cold water (<12°C)) may be landed whole to be processed onshore (Kreuzer and Ahmed, 1978). Small sharks are preferred for meat in many markets because they usually have lower concentrations of urea and mercury (which is naturally absorbed from sea water and through dietary uptake; mercury may reach high concentrations in larger, older sharks (Forrester, Ketchun and Wong, 1972; Walker, 1980)). However, in some markets such as Hong Kong larger sharks are preferred (Parry-Jones, 1996).


  22. naplesfan2010 says:

    sorry … i like science.

  23. olddolphan says:

    MISS GIGI: –I’m doing well, thank you, as is Mrs. OD. ==We’re hoping life continues to treat you well in California!! –Hope to see you at a Fins game this year.
    Jahndoh; I’ll be pulling for GS to win the NBA Finals. I’m just NOT a fan of ANY Cleveland sports team!! –Hope you saw my comments several days ago about Rick Barry and his days at U-M as well as his days with the Warriors. He truly was a clutch player!

    • jetsssuck says:

      OD –I have taken the liberty of sending your work to the Miami Dolphins Historian and original authors of articles you claim you wrote as you said in a previous blog said you would like the owner S. Ross to know the history from your writings. I told them that this was all your writings and sent them each article where it shows only you claim to have written it. If you have something to add like some credits I do suggest you send them in since plagiarism has serious legal consequences. I copied the credits from the net with a program that finds plagiarism when you wrote each article but my hard drive crashed and I don’t have them available anymore. SORRY…You know what they say once its on the internet it is on it forever. Good Luck finding everything.

      Gigi —-libel and slander are 2 different things. I have donated a lot of money through the years and I always ask to remain anonymous but I have always received a thank you for the donation. You are the first person who never didn’t thanked me or acknowledged receiving a gift. I guess this is what they call consideration in legal terms. April 14 Your day is coming…

      ‘Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.’, Ernest Hemingway:

  24. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I agree, if we have the money we should sign mathis. No brainer.

  25. naplesfan2010 says:

    wow … why?

  26. Mike E. says:


    Just curious as to why this issue is so important to you? Have you ever flat out asked OD if there are any sources where he gathered some information to more accurately write his articles? Has he denied that he has used other sources? I don’t want to interfere in this situation, but I don’t understand the zest you seem to have to making this an issue.

    • steveccnv says:

      I don’t get it either. I thought we were all mostly friends here, with the exception of a few spats here and there, but to go this far…

      Mike, I’ve probably busted your bawls here lately on the Oline issues, as much as anything, but it’s all in fun, you know that. Can’t imagine what would motivate this.

      • Mike E. says:

        Apparently, things were said between both parties that I was unaware of, and now they have to work it out in their own ways.

  27. steveccnv says:

    Jahndoh30 says:

    June 11, 2015 at 6:10 pm

    Last last thing…Tim Duncan has the most ho-humm demeanor I’ve ever seen in the NBA. 5 championships is the result.


    You can’t see the forest for the trees.

    I’ll give you the C. Thompson BS fouls, but that’s it. The play at the end of the game where LeBron came behind Steph the ball came loose Dellabadorka gets the loose ball on the ground, then gets hit in the head…Steph was very lackadaisical on that play, and that’s what I’m talking about, they don’t have the “this is an NBA Championship Game Mentality”. Dramond Green said basically the same thing after the last game.

    Are you going to debate the fact that Iguodala looked like the only one giving an effort the other night for the entire game? Game 2 you had Clay giving the effort, Game 3 saw Steph in the 4th qtr give the effort it takes, other than that only small spurts.

    I’ve been watching these guys for 3 yrs too, and yeah they’ve got a lot of postseason wins under their belts, but only one NBA Finals win under their belts.

    When it’s your team it’s always harder to see the truth, hell we all know that being Fins fans.

  28. steveccnv says:

    Plagiarism is taking the writings or literary ideas of another and selling and/or publishing them as one’s own writing. Brief quotes or use of cited sources do not constitute plagiarism. The original author can bring a lawsuit for appropriation of his/her work against the plagiarist and recover the profits. Although not normally a crime, a person who plagiarizes is subject to being sued for fraud or copyright infringement if prior creation can be proved. Penalties vary depending on jurisdiction, the charges brought, and are determined on a case by case basis.

    Looks like the original author would have to file lawsuit, not sure he lost any profits over this. I also wouldn’t think the entire writing was plagiarized.

    • Brian in NY says:

      If you use someone else’s words you must give them credit for it. You can paraphrase, or use statistics, but if you are using a quote, brief or not, you should be giving credit to the person who originally wrote it.

    • Brian in NY says:

      Anything that is written for this site is technically published.

      • steveccnv says:

        Of course, but there’s no monetary gain here, or loss by who ever wrote it.

      • Brian in NY says:

        I get that, and don’t see the big deal, but you said that publishing another’s writing is plagiarism, and that’s what alledgedly was done. Using quotes is definitley plagiarism as well.

  29. BoulderPhinfan says:

    That’s a little extreme. Not sure why it’s a big deal if no one is profiting from it.

  30. stangerx says:

    The hit man who fatally shot the wrong person in northeast Ohio nine years ago likely knew he had broken into the wrong home when he realized the man who lived there was far younger than the man he was supposed to kill, authorities said Thursday.

    The Daniel Ott who killed in May 2006 was 31. The Daniel Ott who was the target of the hit would have been 69 at the time.
    Sarah Conner anyone?

  31. naplesfan2010 says:

    the concept does not exist in a legal sense. “Plagiarism” is not mentioned in any current statute, either criminal or civil.[11][8]
    Plagiarism on the Internet

    Content scraping is copying and pasting from websites[53] and blogs.[54]

    Free online tools are becoming available to help identify plagiarism,[55][56] and there are a range of approaches that attempt to limit online copying, such as disabling right clicking and placing warning banners regarding copyrights on web pages. Instances of plagiarism that involve copyright violation may be addressed by the rightful content owners sending a DMCA removal notice to the offending site-owner, or to the ISP that is hosting the offending site.

  32. naplesfan2010 says:

    Mosaic plagiarism

    If you copy bits and pieces from a source (or several sources), changing a few words here and there without either adequately paraphrasing or quoting directly, the result is mosaic plagiarism. Even if you don’t intend to copy the source, you may end up committing this type of plagiarism as a result of careless note-taking and confusion over where your source’s ideas end and your own ideas begin. You may think that you’ve paraphrased sufficiently, or quoted relevant passages, but if you haven’t taken careful notes along the way, or if you’ve cut and pasted from your sources, you can lose track of the boundaries between your own ideas and those of your sources. It’s not enough to have good intentions and to cite some of the material you use. You are responsible for making clear distinctions between your ideas and the ideas of the scholars who have informed your work. If you keep track of the ideas that come from your sources and have a clear understanding of how your own ideas differ from those ideas, and you follow the correct citation style, you will avoid mosaic plagiarism.

  33. naplesfan2010 says:

    Mathis played college football for the University of Alabama. He was drafted by the Carolina Panthers in the third round of the 2005 NFL Draft, and has also played for the Miami Dolphins [in 2008], Cincinnati Bengals, and the Philadelphia Eagles.His uncle is Bob Baumhower, who played defensive tackle for Alabama and the Miami Dolphins.[15]

  34. finfanrob says:

    steveccnv says:
    June 11, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    I don’t get it either. I thought we were all mostly friends here, with the exception of a few spats here and there, but to go this far…

    first, he does it for attention. no other reason. and second i think here we are all friends. unlike other places and some things were more angry. i think the group here is all friends. that is why busting balls is so easy and fun. why mr grumpy is doing it well i stated my opinion, attention. not like this would work but if everyone just ignored him he would go away.

  35. finfanrob says:


    if you look at it, he has gotten a few days worth of attention so his goal reached.

    i like OD, he is one of the good guys (and everyone else here is too, the bad ones are gone in my opinion) i dont care if plagiarized or not, i liked his articles.

    i will heed my own advice from now on and not give him the attention he craves.

  36. naplesfan2010 says:

    Dusty is a very common nickname in the South for people with the last name of Rhodes. Get it? “dusty” roads.
    Not sure if this is so in other parts of the country, but I know of at least 3 people with that name.

  37. The Flying Pig says:

    Mike E
    Out of principal I’m not going to do a poll
    Just so that you learn how to do it

  38. BoulderPhinfan says:

    alright I guess I’ll watch the refs give lebron another title.

  39. wyoming85 says:

    When you catch a shark you cut off it’s tail and bleed it out!
    Thus you get all the “piss” out of the meat!

    Ya’ll don’t kill / catch much of your own food? 😉

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Why would we do that? Publix is minutes away. I also don’t knit my own socks, mill my own lumber, kiln my own bricks, or acid-wash my own chips for my motherboards.
      Why would I?

      I have people to do that.

  40. Brian in NY says:

    Where the hell is the poll Mike E?

  41. steveccnv says:

    GSW by 2, is that like their first lead in the series in regulation?

  42. Mike E. says:


    I have no idea how to put up a poll. I was hoping Piggy would take care of it.

  43. The Flying Pig says:

  44. naplesfan2010 says:

    I only drive out to get those things because I have awesome vehicles that are fun to drive.
    I could just order off the web with 5 or 6 clicks.
    Soon I will be able to get anything just by saying so.
    Some day, I will be able to order whatever I want just by thinking of it.

    There will always be plenty of everything for everyone.
    Goods and services flow smoothly between producers and consumers, enriching us all.

  45. naplesfan2010 says:

    Mike E
    Just click “add poll” on your dashboard and type in the question and yes-no-maybe answers. There are a few parameters to select from or just accept the default.

  46. The Flying Pig says:

    I sent you instructions by email Mike E

  47. steveccnv says:

    The LeBron play were he bled on his head, was actually pretty funny, and I like LeBron. Bogut fouls him pretty good and LeBron takes 5 more steps flopping off the court and hits his head on a camera lens.

  48. Mike E. says:

    I created the poll, saved it, but I have no idea how to do the widget thing. I’m old dude. lol

    • The Flying Pig says:

      You have to copy the embed link portion
      Go to widgets
      Go to the 2nd part and paste the link
      You are almost there

  49. Mike E. says:

    Is it possible you can only have 2 polls at one time, and no more?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      You can have several
      And really you can erase the old ones when you get the new one up anyway

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Wide get is in “appearance” on side panel

        And then go to secondary widget area on on the right side of screen

        Then you will see a polls scroll down on one of the options
        Click it and you will see the where to past the link
        And erase the old poll while you are at it

  50. The Flying Pig says:

  51. manitobafinfan says:

    Just wow. Smh

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