A Sonny Football Fantasy
The Dolphins have a QB!
by son of a son of a shula
(mid-season 2018)
It’s been a long long time since the Miami Dolphins had this kind of leader and winner at the Quarterback position. You know how long its been, since Dan Marino retired that’s how long. This new young signal 
caller has taken the league by storm. From the first day he walked into the huddle he had the command and respect you’d expect a grizzled veteran to have but Mac Notwen has that certain swag and fiery personality to be an instant leader. Although Mac is a vocal leader it is his play on the field that earns him the respect of his team mates. Many have come and gone since Marino retired and its been quite a challenge for the Dolphins to hit on a guy like Mac, a player who refuses to let his team lose and a player no one ever believes he is out of a game. The Dolphins still have some defensive issues that aren’t quite as apparent with this high powered offense averaging 31 points a game.
In the two games thus far that Miami has fallen behind they were able to, under the leadership of 
Mac Notwen, put together strong second halves to catch up and subsequently pull out wins late. How refreshing it is for Fins fans who knew they were done when Mac’s predecessor, Ryan Tannehill, was behind in a game. They wanted like hell for the team to fightback to scratch and claw and pull out narrow wins but it just never seemed to happen. Not in the Mac era, those close games seem to always swing in the Fins favor now. Mac always seems to hit on a big play in big moments. Whether he avoids a sack and runs for good yardage or fires a perfect ball over the middle to his Tight End or hits the defense between the eyes with a gorgeous deep ball, he is always making plays and scoring Touchdowns.
Said one jubilant fan leaving from the Dolphins last win, “Where have you been all my life, Mac?”. Dolphin nation is crazy with eagerness and anticipation of what Mac will do in the playoffs. 
The last time Miami was in a playoff game was back in 2008, ten grueling long years ago. At 7-1 this Miami team seems a lock to make the playoffs and make some serious noise while there. It is amazing what Mac has done for this team. Without many changes in the offseason the Dolphins were not expected to contend for a division title but Mac Notwen came in and has rejuvenated this team to what many are saying is the spirit of the Undefeated Season era Dolphins. With four 4th quarter comeback wins so far this team has far outdone the Tannehill team of last year who only had one 4th quarter win. The team is inspired, the fans are inspired and the wins are piling up what a great time to be a Dolphin fan.
Slap slap – Son wake up, wake up you’re talking in your sleep
What was I saying?
(laughing) You were going on and on about some QB who is going to make the Dolphins great, ha ha ha
Yeah, just a dream, Tannehill is still our QB?
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Back to reality. 3-5 and 0-4 in the division. Everything was supposed to be different.
In the 2015 AFC East the Quarterbacks are as follows:
Pats – Brady – 6th round
Stej – Fitzpatrick
– 7th round
Bills – Tyrod Taylor – 6th round
Dolphins – Tannehill – 1st round 8th overall
Guess who’s 0-4 against the division?
Do you realize the 2015 Dolphins:
Haven’t kicked a meaningful field goal once this entire season.
That the offense hasn’t scored a fourth quarter TD that would either get them back in a game or take a lead late.
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Sometimes you gotta win 41-38, we just can never nut up to have a game like that anymore.
Even if you consider that Buffalo got 2 gift TD’s, the blatant holding on Suh and the fumble where we should have had it on the 20, take those away and they still would have won 19-17. We have to score more Touchdowns. Not just piles against shit teams but TD’s every week against anyone.
(It turns out this team doesn’t have Philbin’s personality at all, they have la de da, dum de dum, Ryan Tannehill’s persona. Oy!)
FWIW, I don’t think the team as a whole is bad or even should be bad. I look around the league and analyze teams rosters as they play and I always see primarily the same types of teams across the league. Some vets, some stars, some journeymen, some guys we all know from drafts as we see what they’ll become, and a lot of unknowns and undrafted guys. Man for man we stack up with every other team in the league. “It’s in the way that you use it”
At this point, although I really like Dan Campbell, my wish is that the Dolphins bring a Prodigal Son’s Son home. Son of a son. Mike Shula is ready to fill his father’s shoes and lead the Dolphins to glory. Mike is doing now what his father taught him a long time ago. And that is to let the players play, play to their strengths, have better athletes and use them to win in a system that fits THEM and not some scheme where square pegs are constantly forced into round holes.
The biggest problem with trying to bring Mike Shula in is that he might be busy until early February. Consequently Dan Campbell is here as is Mike Tannenbaum and perhaps the hiring of Mike Shula would see the continued employment of Dan Campbell in an Asst Head Coach capacity if he were open to it. Mike Shula is ready and he should be brought to Miami, where he belongs.
(a little loose with the prodigal son analogy, work with me here please)
Son wonders what it may have been like with Keuchly, Eifert and Cousins with 2 years behind Moore…
Finsmob Unleashed 
Morning Update
DOLPHINS-EAGLES
Howie 23-17 MIA
Rock 32-24 MIA
T-Pod 31-13 PHI
Piggy 27-14 MIA
Old 23-17 PHI
Book 27-21 MIA
MikeE 28-20 PHI
Al 26-24 MIA
Bold 31-17 PHI
Stang 31-17 MIA
WERE NOT GOOD!
You’re not going to let this love go, are you? I freely admit he is better than what we have (really- 33.6 qbr? Last out of 32 qb’s? Don’t bring it up- his defenders get all panty-twisted. I mean, I haven’t seen this kind of love since a certain someone’s Henne crush). I think their accuracy in the deep ball is similar, and though he is an athletic freak, eventually he won’t be able to run and then you lose half of his game. Even that doesn’t bother me; what does bother me is the “Superman”. I actually think if he were my qb I’d want someone to punch him in his face every time he did it.
Ok, now that that’s out of the way, your bigger point I can’t argue- we have nothing to lose by giving Shoes Jr. A shot, and a whole lot to gain, at least initially. Bring him in, I’ll support him.
Uhhhggg SMH. I’ll check back in tomorrow
We’re still gonna suck tomorrow, so I’m not sure what you’re expecting…
here’s a cool story about how professional athletes are doing good.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25372168/tom-brady-fulfills-selfless-6-year-olds-wish-with-coolest-gift-ever
Son I love your ideas usually but was going to laugh off the Shula one…until I checked more closely. This Shula really does seem to have more of the right stuff like his dad. I keep thinking about Dave instead of Mike. I wouldnt Mikey being our next coach.
how hard would it be to fire Mike Shula when his father sits on the board, things would very ugly.
Not a concern- coaching is a big-boy job.
Think maybe Don could have little Mikey over for dinner and discuss that Mikey can be our next Head Coach. I’m actually all for it. Love to have another qualified Shula in charge.
jetssuck
We have to hire Mike Shula before we fire him. lol
There is a bit of “cart before the horse” in that, isn’t there?
Just a bit. Another sad fact is “The Don” isn’t going to live forever
I get home and turn on the game, it looked like Christmas. They should have had those shiny Christmas tree balls in their respective colors hanging off their helmets
😉
What if the team is just done?
Irrelevant! 😉
I guess you’re being told “no criticizing allowed”.
Mac Notwen
any relation to Cam Newton?
Son, the issue with this team is not Tannehill. He didn’t play poorly in BUF, the team let the game get away from them because of a handful of plays. We still don’t commit to the running game and the defense doesn’t consistently create pressure or turnovers. Oh yeah they also have moments where they get gashed by the run game.
I tend to think what Son is saying is not the Tanny is the issue with the team
but Tanny is not making the team any better
taking the team on his back and winning essentially
I think Tanny has been disappointing too
He’s not bad
but he;s not good either
Our LBs are bad
if I’m looking at one place where we are really bad in terms of personel – its LB
If you watc the buffalo game you can see Karlos Williams and Lesean McCoy bounce outside away from Suh and the horrible angles our LBs take
if it weren;t for Rashad Jones – it would be even worse
I think we may have the worst LB unit in the league
Our defense would be so much better with just better LB play
Not the only issue, but an issue nonetheless. And as much as it pains me, I agree that Newton would have won more games as the qb than has Tanne.
I think its a no brainer in terms of Newton winning more than Tanny
and I think the real issue is intagibles like confidence and leadership that Tanny lacks compared to Newton
I want Tanny to grow up already
That’s where I am- like the guy, good person, but I think his ceiling has been reached, so unless we get a top 5 oline and defense, I have no confidence he’ll take us that next step.
But if we had Mac Notwen and Suh, we’d be in the Super bowl for sure!
Son does have his stubbornness
Piggy
Is that what’s happening in Carolina? Is Cam taking a bad team that doesn’t run the ball and can’t play defense, and leading them to victory? BTW, he’s 38-31 lifetime, and that includes his “wonder” year of being 8-0 this year.
On there way to the postseason again
do you watch Cam N0ewton?
He makes plays when it happens
Everytime some one criticizes Tanny the Misdirection Patrol comes in to remind everyone that some one else is bad too
Well that doesn;t work for me as a defense to Tanny’s play.
if we are talking about Tanny it doesn;t matter how bad some one else is
Tanny doesn;t get better b/c some one else is bad
LMAO- Misdirection Patrol! Have you copyrighted that yet?
People also forget his good games very quickly.
It’s easy to get high on someone when things are going good.
LMAO!!!
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I guess because the team isn’t very good you’re wanting a QB who can carry the team which I think is overly exaggerated anyway. A QB can’t carry a team without support so it doesn’t really make sense. If the team played better overall you wouldn’t even be focused on Tannehill. That’s what I think.
Its today’s NFL QBs are such a huge factor in the result
So they say. But when the OL and defense is bad teams don’t win regardless.
Worst qbr, but not a problem… And if someone tells me that stats aren’t everything, but then turn around and remind everyone someone just had a 23 for 24 game, I’ll lose my mind!
Worst QB rating?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/qbr
That’s not the real QB rating. LOL
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating
Let me ask you guys this, what impact has Suh had on this team?
what impact has Tanne? He got here we were mediocre, been here and we’re still mediocre.
You an see it on the field during the game
The Bills were running away from him all game
the problem is our LBs are so bad and take such bad angles it doesn’t matter
But you can see McCoy and Williams hit holes away from Suh
Its amazing how bad our LBs are
Suh is only going to have so much impact
But again this is what people do when people ciriticize Tanny
they talk about something else they think is bad or not playing up to par
That’s why I called it the misdirection patrol
To defend Tanny – talk about Tanny, not some one else
Take Suh out and there is no difference on our defense, it’s still inconsistent to bad.
I’ve already talked about Tanny and I see the same nonsense every time we lose. But let’s ignore the defense lead buy Suh allowing 266 rushing yards. The Bills ran right through the fuckin middle many times. They ran away from Suh? They ran around him and past him.
Piggy
I’m not misdirecting. I know exactly what Tanny is. He’s not the type of QB that puts his team on his back, but really, how many are? Oh and BTW, put Cam Newton and his Panthers in our division, and see how many times they make the playoffs.
Why couldn’t Andrew Luck win this year? Did he forget how to carry the team?
Yep, he hit the ceiling and forgot what a football is. LOL
You can’t win int his league if your QB can’t put the team on his back
if your QB can;t make plays when it counts you can’t win
Both Newton and Luck and russell williams too for that matter do what Tanny does not
I really think people are struggling coming to terms with who Tanny is right now
He has earned criticism
I say let it be out there instead of talking about other players when people criticize Tanny
Its not okay to be an average QB in the NFL
Its not okay to need everything else to go right to win
We won;t win anything with a QB like that
The most frustrating part about Tanny – is it seems like it might happen any day for him
but it just hasn;t and there is a chance it might never happen
I think its obvious that he was less ready than anyone thought when he was drafted
All of a sudden we look to ESPN for QBR? ESPN blows!
Oh, and BTW, look who’s 24th? Give you a hint – His initials are MN. lol
I like how we pick and chose what stats we want to use. In and of themselves, I don’t care, but it gives you something to reference.
They have some rating of their own which I don’t even know what it is.
I was using them as a relational tool- don’t really care about all the minutiae. It clearly shows him as last in comparison to others being rated by the same standards. And if I see one that rates him somewhere above 16th in comparison I’ll be surprised.
This is the real QBR, not ESPN’s fabricated one
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TannRy00.htm
Why- because they agree with your thoughts?
Because it’s been the industry standard and the universally accepted one.
That ESPN QB rating is not the official one.
I see. Compelling.
Can you show me the one that puts Tannehill in comparison to the other 31 qb’s?
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/quarterbackRating
Piggy
There are so many factors involved with the QB making plays though. You do realize our O-line really sucks at pass blocking, right? You also realize we throw way too much, right?
Qb makes a line as much as the other way around. Jetsssuck’s favorite qb doesn’t have a better line than us- doh! I’m not supposed to use him as a comparison- my bad.
Again
talking about everything that is not Tanny’s performance
You can just look at Tanny’s opportunities to make an impact and evaluate him
He has chances to make plays
he just doesn’t
I would love to see some one argue why Tanny is good instead of why some one else is bad in defense of Tanny
Try, I gave you the ESPN version of the real QB rating. I have no idea what that other one is they implemented like 2 years ago.
So I see many of you have met Mac. Mac Notwen!
Run why you can! The ‘Shills are out in full force!
I figured they would be, its ok. Its about time we start to see clearly. My “his ceiling is high” glasses got stomped on several weeks ago.
Here’s an interesting stat. Scroll down.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/sort/rushingYardsPerGame/position/defense
I don’t know how I got sucked into this- I don’t hate the guy! I just get tired of the gnashing of teeth when someone says something less that endorsing of his greatness. Done. Exhausted. Not worth it. He is not a problem.
Piggs sees it as I do.Minus all the Cam love of course.
Anyone blaming Tannehill for the Bills loss didn’t watch the game.
They got 2 gift TD’s and we still couldn’t beat them
Not sure what that means but we allowed them to run through, around and over us.
Tannehill is fine. He is not the problem. A team can win with Tannehill. He is not Aaron Rodgers but he pretty much is Russell Wilson if not better. The difference between him and Wilson is talent around him and coaching. Yes I think Cam Newton is better but no sense in dwelling on that. We couldn’t have drafted him and there is no way Carolina lets him go. So either Tannehill is the guy or we are back to investing 3-4 years in developing the next guy.
I wasn’t mooning for Cam in this piece, I was referring to a fictional QB who would come along in the future.
Here’s a serious question I asked myself the other day let’s see what y’all think.
Would you trade Tannehill straight up for Philip Rivers?
If I thought the team was ready to win now – yes. But I don’t think the team is ready to win now. We have serious holes on D and a lack of depth on OL so I would not invest in an older QB at this time. It’s either keep Tannehill and let him continue to grow, which he has done every year arguably up to this season, or scrap it all and re-start with a rookie QB next year.
that won’t happen. Tanny gets at least 2 more years, We might get a backup for him but I’m willing to bet he’s the starter next year unless he’s traded.
no. Rivers is done in a couple of years. Tanny is still young with more upside.
I would hire ken whisenhunt as OC however. He did great with Rivers while he was there.
I think rivers would also have a better record as the qb of this team- though Tanne is not a problem.
HELL YES!!!!!
Rivers is one of my favorites QBs in this league
You can look at RT’s QB rating by game. He’s had some great games and some bad games.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/14876/ryan-tannehill
this discussion is one where stats don;t matter
Its game to game and very situational
Exactly right- Newton has a worse rating on the “official” chart yet he is still the more complete qb.
*but Tanne is not a problem.
Nice Job Son. I agree with most everything you said. I just don’t see us hiring mike shula. The reason I don’t think we’ll do it is because it would be very difficult to fire him if things don’t work out. I mean Don will never step into the dolphins stadium again because we fired his son.
We fired his father- how much harder could it possibly be to fire Jr? I just don’t get this line of thought…
Shula was upset because we didn’t interview his son the last round when we hired philbin. He’s a grumpy old man now. He’ll probably boycott the phins this time around.:-)
You can’t hire anyone with the idea that you have to fire them.
you have to consider it. The chances of any coach we hire is gonna be the next belicheat are pretty low.
ken.
tanny is not the problem but he’s not the solution either. He won’t carry a team. He’ll do his part but he needs a great defense and a great rushing attack to be successful. Something we don’t
have right now.
Russell Wilson doesn’t carry a team either. He has been to 2 SBs and won one of them.
He doesn’t make stupid plays and choices, either- but Tanne is not a problem.
yea and he has a great defense and running attack behind him. That’s why he’s successful. IF they’d asked wilson to be brady he would have failed as well.
Try:
That’s actually not true. Wilson has made some serious bad decisions, especially in terms of holding on to the ball too long. He is heavily criticized for that.
His don’t seem to be the costly ones- no qb is perfect. But Tanne is not a problem.
We shouldn’t be looking for a QB to carry us but to do his part. Just admit it peeps, this team is not as talented as you thought it was an Suh’s impact has been nil. We could not have him and there would be no difference.
This team is worst than last year’s team IMO. So you’re correct getting Suh made no difference.
That’s a bingo.
I’m saying that in my head like the german colonel from Inglorious Basterds.
We should make a t-shirt that says “Tanny is not the problem” for ugly people to wear to make them feel pretty
Wait now- I’d be one of those having to wear it!
guilty
And one that says “Suh is here, nothing has changed.”
and on the back it an say “this has nothing to do with Ryan Tannehill though”
Try, so Russell Wilson throwing 4 INTs in the championship game aren’t stupid plays and bad choices?
And they were still in it! You point out the good game Tanne has as a symbol of his greatness yet pull a bad game of wilsons as a symbol of his horribleness?
😳
You said he doesn’t make stupid plays and bad choices which isn’t true.
That cost his team if you want to be accurate.
Lol, that’s the one
Anyone criticizing Suh doesn’t watch interior line play.
Not a fan of the signing, but he is only one man that has 8 games on this team. The other guy has been here 3.5 years- but he is not a problem.
I do – he’s solid but he’s not making enough impact plays for what we paid him. We can be 31st in run defense and 20th in sacks without him.
The worst part about discussing Tanny
is that I end up bashing him just to make a counter-argument
There are good things to say about him
I don;t think he is a lost cause either
That’s true as well, but there is stuff that makes me insane, I know this because my instincts kick in when watching and I can’t deny what they tell me.
That is bc Tanny’s instincts are not good
That is probably his biggest problem
at this stage of his career I would have expected him to be better
That’s what just happened to me, I swear!
I am so tired now- and gdp is going to show up and get defensive and Wyoming will say we’re bad fans- not to mention FFR. I’ll bet randy is laughing his ass off right now- bat, too.
Yeah GDP isn’t going to be happy. FFR is going to act like I personally signed Suh and recruited him, when I’m just a fan.
the LBs are embarrassment on this play. This would have been a 3 yard loss if zach was playing MLB
This is consistently happening
This is a good example of what is going on with this team defensively
the only one moving the OL back is Suh
everyone else is getting pushed back
Jenkins is knocked back but at least he makes an attempt
Shepard – where is he?!?!
Vernon just sealed off completely
and the CB tries to duck under the block and just makes no impact on the play
Who is most at fault oin his play
I think its the CB
but then again Shepard is where?
It’s a sweep and Vernon and Jenkins played it horribly.
Vernon is pretty bad on it too
I’m not a Tanneshill, but if you’re going to tell me that Mac Notwen is so much better than Tanny is, I’ll have to disagree with you. Don’t you think it’s funny that with the QBR that you guys were using to show how bad Tanny is has your superstar as #24? I mean that’s pretty funny.
Mac Notwen is a fictional character
But he is 6’5 and weighs 260 with a canon arm.
You’re not a Tannehill?
A Tanneshill? No. I know he has limitations, and I point them out all the time during the game.
Alright, I just had blood work done and haven’t eaten in almost 18 hours- I’m a little lightheaded in fact. I need to go eat something. Please forgive me- I hate the Tanne discussion because it always ends up here- but Tanne is not a problem.
Mike E. says:
November 12, 2015 at 8:23 pm
You don’t think it looks poorly that he went 6-10 last year, and now the Falcons are 6-3?
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Mike, im not pushing Mike Smith as a HC for us, but i will say Chud whom everyone seems to love here, had a 4-12 record his last year as a coach. Marrone was 6-10 9-7, 15-17 overall as a HC, but bailed out on the team which bothers me a little. Hue Jackson was the much beleaguered 8-8 in his only HC stint.
All of these candidate seem decent to me but what Tim was saying is very appropriate. Mike Smith’s body of work truly out-weighs his last year record. Shit happens but if you want to look at a guy who’s history as an NFL coach less resembles Philbin than the others, he stands out as the guy who doesnt look like him. Marrone’s all time record looks much like Philbins, Chud’s actually looks worse than Philbin’s first year. Jackson looked just as average as Philbin did….
Again i havent settled into a HC candidate i like best, but i definately am leaning towards a clean start fr a hungry guy candidate. All the above listed i think are completely viable, and have merit to why we would want to hire them, Mike Smith included.
marrone didn’t have a QB and got his team to 9-7. I also like jackson. Getting those raiders teams to an 8-8 is a miracle.
Again im not saying that either are bad options, im just pointing out you may have to look past records to see the quality of the coach. I was showing that as a reference to why Mike Smiths last year record doesnt mean he is a bad coaching candidate either.
son of a son of a shula says:
November 13, 2015 at 10:31 am (Edit)
I’m saying that in my head like the german colonel from Inglorious Basterds.
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That’s the only way to say it.
Funny the Keys to Victory Do’t say anything about Tanny Being “Superman”!!!!
Miami Dolphins @MiamiDolphins 1h1 hour ago
1. Stop the run
2. Win the first quarter
3. Get @millertime_6 going
4. Protect @ryantannehill1
5. Rush the passer
well they have to be realistic….lol
I’m not a Tanny homer. All I’m doing is defending him against what I think is unfair criticism. This team isn’t that good.
its not unfair to criticize his play
he has earned it even if the rest of the team isn;t so good
He’s also played exceptional.
Okay
I have work to do
Talk to you guys later
Later Tannehater
Mike’s probably a nice guy. What I have in common with him is that we went to the same HS here in Miami. It’s also the same Catholic HS Brian Griese went to (Bob sent his son there because of Shula’s experience with sending his son there). Anyway, all that aside, I’m principally opposed to nepotism. If Mike is the best fit out there (as Philbin appeared to be at the time), then so be it. I’d like to see who will be available this offseason (especially if the Saints are silly enough to get rid of Sean Payton).
I think we should draft either Hackenberg (if the new coach is a more pro style QB guy) or Prescott (it they like a guy who is similar to Tanny but better mobility for read-option) as a backup to Tanny. Neither would embarrass us as a backup in the worst case scenario that Tanny goes down, and both have potential to push Tanny and even replace him in a few years if this outlying year of bad play is a trend and not an abnormality. I have always been a fan of Tanny from the moment they called his name in the draft, i have had high hopes and i have defended him because he always showed improvement. This year he has really stepped back from that and we need to be real and understand there is a chance this is it. Just because we paid like a franchise guy, doesn’t automatically mean he turned into one. A lot of QB’s right now fit the mold of got paid to be and dont look like they will make it. Tanny could also be one of those.
Don’t like either of those options. No one is going to draft Hackenberg to be a backup and I also think he is horribly inconsistent and his accuracy disappears at times. I also don’t see Prescott as a pro QB.
Hackenberg is the QB in this coming draft with the most portential to be a pro, pocket passing QB. He is extremely raw, but he’s a lot like Brady was in college. You could see the potential in Brady but he lacked the experience and refinement, but his tool set screamed NFL. I see same deal with Hackenberg, and trust me i hate saying it because i have a strong no PSU players philosophy….i hate that school, but i have seen pretty solid things from him.
Prescott is what he is, he’s a very mobile guy, and he probably winds up a lot like Kaepernick, but he already has better accuracy, touch and ability to read defense so i think there is more to work with than there was with Kaepernick.
Piggy, I said Vernon is bad on that play. I mentioned him first. LOL
Vernon isn’t a good DE. I think he’d be better as a 3-4 OLB because he struggles too often to be a staple DE. He plays hard and to the whistle but his size is an issue.
I think he is a pretty decent DE, he is just not an elite pass rush DE. He is the guy who is kinda a blend of the run support skills and pass rush ability. There are a bunch of teams that run a 4-3 bit they way they play he fits them. I think he inds up going to one of those next year in FA.
His pass rush isn’t very good and he’s been part of a bad run defense going back to last year. I don’t think losing him to FA is a big deal.
As we all know, Wins and Losses don’t go to the QB, they go the TEAM!
If you guys that think it’s mainly the QB can give me a list of QB’s that you think that rule doesn’t apply to, go ahead and list them.
QB is just the person that the blame/fame gets thrown on. Its just how the NFL is, and pretty much always is. Its not the facts of the matter and i don’t judge my evaluation of a QB on team record, or team play, i watch them and i judge them on their play. They are though an important piece of half the team’s productivity, so they have a lot of opportunities to be the savior or the goat. Is what it is.
D
I know Smith is a good coach, I was just asking specifically about last year and this year. One can do that without dissing his entire career. 🙂
Mike E, you said in your post, I’m not a Tannehill. LOL
No, read it again, I said Tanneshill
What does that mean?
Mike, to me it’s about “Chutzpah”, it’s lacking especially in the 4th qtr.
D, I’d like to see that Alabama QB in the pros. Coker right? He has pro qualities in his game.
Yeah but he rattles VERY easy. When he comes unglues he really shits the bed. Thats a hard quality to correct.
He’d be a good really late round flyer guy or a UDFA. He has like a years worth of experience so i have a feeling he will fall very far in the draft.
D says:
November 13, 2015 at 11:02 am
Hackenberg is the QB in this coming draft with the most portential to be a pro, pocket passing QB. He is extremely raw, but he’s a lot like Brady was in college. You could see the potential in Brady but he lacked the experience and refinement, but his tool set screamed NFL. I see same deal with Hackenberg, and trust me i hate saying it because i have a strong no PSU players philosophy….i hate that school, but i have seen pretty solid things from him.
Prescott is what he is, he’s a very mobile guy, and he probably winds up a lot like Kaepernick, but he already has better accuracy, touch and ability to read defense so i think there is more to work with than there was with Kaepernick.
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Also im not talking a 2nd round for either of these guys, but if we are sitting in the 4-5th rounds and either is there….we should take one of them
Hackenberg is likely to be a top 10 pick which imo will be a big mistake for some team to make. I see the qualities you talk about but I see too much inconsistent and bad decision making in his game.
D says:
November 13, 2015 at 10:44 am
Mike, im not pushing Mike Smith as a HC for us, but i will say Chud whom everyone seems to love here, had a 4-12 record his last year as a coach. Marrone was 6-10 9-7, 15-17 overall as a HC, but bailed out on the team which bothers me a little. Hue Jackson was the much beleaguered 8-8 in his only HC stint.
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Chud only coached 1 season so forget the ‘last’ part :P. His QB choices were Jason Campbell, Brandon Weeden, and Hoyer LOL. He got canned because of a change in ownership and a new GM wanting his own ppl in place. As OD says constantly, Cleveland is the mistake by the lake…even Belichick failed to do much there in 5 years time.
Mike Smith
Guess in none of my post the point got across that all the candidate have their statistical flaws, Mike Smiths’ are no less concerning. Just an observation that all candidates have flaws the best one isnt the one with the best statistical support numbers.
Mike Smith is a solid coach though is what I wanted to finish with but he has that Marty Schottenheimer / Dennis Green feel to him…will get your team organized and into the playoffs but not sure he can get the team over the top. It’s a start for sure, at this point, this club needs someone like those guys I mentioned. I’ll worry about another type of coach if someone like Mike Smith can’t get over the hump in the playoffs.
Son
Believe me, I wish for the same for Tannehill. I hate that sometimes he leaves plays on the field, but it’s also a cumulation of not having a lot of time due to a poor pass blocking O-line, and also partly poor field vision and anticipation. Some QB’s have it, some don’t.
What’s going on here is fans aren’t okay with RT being a good quality QB, now you want elite because this team can’t win without a QB who goes above and beyond.
Who doesnt want their QB to be elite….lol
What I’m saying is good isn’t enough and there are only a few elite QBs in the NFL and Cam Newton isn’t one of them. LOL
Tim
It’s a common used word here. A shill is someone who promotes someone, or praises someone out of loyalty for that person or their own self interest. Someone, I believe Try maybe, coined the term TanneSHILL
He’s going all jew word on ya.
Tim, or Son? Son used Chutzpah. I like that these Yiddish words stay in circulation, because sadly, the language is slowly dying.
Tim Knight says:
November 13, 2015 at 11:01 am
His pass rush isn’t very good and he’s been part of a bad run defense going back to last year. I don’t think losing him to FA is a big deal.
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I have seen several plays he set the edge really nicely, and prevented backs from getting outside. He seems to me better than average, to good at run defense and about the same eval on pass rush. I do agree with you though that losing him in FA isnt a big deal and a draft pick like Shaq Lawson can do what he do….. and yes i meant the last part to sound like that i have been watching too many “True facts” videos.
D:
Hue Jackson took a pretty talentless Raiders team to that 8-8 record. He pretty much revived Carson Palmer’s career and then was promptly fired by Senile Al Davis who was firing coaches at that time out of force of habit.
Mike E, gotcha on Yiddish. It went right over my head. Yes it is a dying language.
Shill isn’t a Yiddish word, chutzpah is. It is a slang word, usually in gambling circles. We’re getting all confused. 🙂
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shill?s=t
My head hurts. LOL
Mike, when we want Chutzpah we most times end up saying, “oy, this is Mashugana”
LOL! The whole team is meshugganah!
Al, Mike Smith’s first time around as a HC was much better than Belichick’s so maybe the 2nd time is a charm.
How do we fix this team? I got bubkes. 😉
good coordinators a couple of defensive ends a middle linebacker, a shut down corner, a healthy Parker
this said with the understanding we are tied to Tannehill for a while
OY
^ When does this ever happen?
No such thing as a shut down corner with the way the rules are.
Revis held Watkins to 3 catches, 14 yards. That’s a lot better than what Grimes did. I do agree with you though
You could also look at it like Taylor wasn’t comfortable throwing Revis’ way not that Revis shut down Watkins.
Mike E. says:
November 13, 2015 at 11:14 am
Tim, or Son? Son used Chutzpah. I like that these Yiddish words stay in circulation, because sadly, the language is slowly dying.
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It is sad, i didn’t know that. I actually find Yiddish pretty cool, its like English but not…. maybe because you hear it so much mixed in with English not used in entirety as a language.
Yiddish is a combination of German and Hebrew. It’s actually a slang language.
I remember wanting to get Charles Woodson when he was a FA in ’12, wouldn’t it have been nice to have him with Jones for the last few years?
Ok he’s not a shut down corner but our QB is afraid to throw it near him. Isn’t that the very definition of a shut down corner?
No, a shutdown corner is a guy who doesn’t allow his man to get open. 😉
Tim Knight says:
November 13, 2015 at 11:24 am
How do we fix this team? I got bubkes. 😉
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All we need is a couple of coordinators, possibly a HC, an olineman or two, some linebackers, two or three pieces in the secondary, a new passrusher, more consistent QB play, a new waterboy, and a partridge in a pear treeeeeeee!
It’s almost too easy…
Crazy!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/11/12/teens-death-ruled-suicide-snakebite/75680504/
Grime relies on his athleticism to defend, he’s a smaller corner, but he is fast, he’s got major hops and he has great instincts. This is true for Revis as well but Revis is able to also play a more physical game with receivers and bump them off their routes, making him a little better in one on one. That said both guys will deteriorate rapidly when their athleticism begins to dwindle. I thinkw e are starting to see it with Grimes but dont know that he has hit a point where he is still not better than most at their best. I do think though Watkins showed he is going to have trouble with this new bunch of young, extremely gifted receivers and i think we will find more and more over the rest of this year and next that he is becoming a liability. Revis because he has the ability to play physical may stay elite a tad longer.
it was also very windy and raining last night. Taylor did try to hit watkins because he was open but the ball sailed on him. It had nothing to do with revis play. Watkins was wide open a couple of times. He hit those passes when they played us.
LOL
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly 3h3 hours ago
There isn’t a single thing that Cam Newton and Ryan Tannehill do alike. Can’t think of one.
Omar Kelly Retweeted Carlos Saenz
The stats are wrong to begin with, and if you’re comparing Cam Newton to Ryan Tannehill you are clueless.
The stats are the stats they can’t be right or wrong but they may not always paint an accurate picture either.
Is Omar reading us is that why he’s talking about Cam?
that’s why I thought it was funny.
Wow my cousins son got a D1 scholarship to play Lacrosse at Wagner College
Sweet! That’s great!
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Son, I have no idea what Omar is saying and why he’s saying it. LOL
If we see a tweet from him referencing Mac Notwen then we’ll know for sure, lol
Yeah that would confirm it. LOL
The one thing that Cam & RT have in common is that they hold onto the ball too long on pass plays
Wyo is a Dolphins cheerleader shill. lol
It’s a free service!
Again, if the Fins O runs less than 20 times on Sunday vs the Eagles then its time to fire Lazor and let Al Saunders handle duties the rest of the season.
For all the crap Grimes got for his coverage on Watkins last week, Revis got twisted by Watkins cuts pretty good last night.
I agree.
How many blogs can Omar possibly follow? We know he’s reading Walker’s blog, so . . .
How do we know that?
We don’t. Just a joke. M always said “We’re being read”.
This guy is giving me wood ….put him in a Fins uni 🙂
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=123796&draftyear=2016&genpos=OLB
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25369882/meet-the-prospect-lsu-olb-deion-jones
TMI
Don’t know why there is so much finger pointing at specific players when the coordinators are the problem. Coyle’s system sucks and the D sucked last year. They suck worse this year cause teams know the weaknesses of this system, especially our division (4 of 5 losses). The not really new DC is running the same system so it still sucks. The O is no better cause of the play calling. Not enough running and trying to run from shotgun and not under center. The finger pointing should be at those 2. So much finger pointing that we poke them in the frickin eyeball. IMHO anyway.
LOL
Hey BBMike good to see you
If Dennis Hickey can find another DB like Bobby McCain this year, then there will be no need to reach for one early. Tannanbaum for all the crap I think about him (I’m not a fan of his cumulus work with the Jets), he did draft Revis.
Hey there Mike!
Are you looking in the mirror?
No, but I could do that, but that’s very silly! I’m gonna go do it anyway. lol
baildbond,
I think even a good coordinator would struggle with the current personnel on D.
However, are the current ones maximimizing what they have and putting forth the best option in stuffing the opposition? HELL FUCKING NO.
IF YOUR LB SUCK BALLS AND YOUR DB HAVE ISSUES IN SPACE THEN ITS PLAIN AS DAY IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO -> SELL OUT AND BOX UP THE FRONT WITH 7 (GO WIDE 9 WITH THE DE) AND JAM THE LB IN THE GAPS EVERY TIME BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO FAIL REGARDLESS SO MIGHT AS WELL PRESSURE THE QB INTO A MISTAKE.
If you remember the one year Dom Capers was around as DC, the 1-15 season, he did just that….blitzed and blitzed often…got roasted alot but he knew, his D had big holes talent wise…his LB sucked dick (Crowder and an old ass Porter; Zach Thomas was injured by then) and his DB were MEH.
Porter had 17.5 sacks the next season. The problem was we were running a 4-3 that year due to a lack of personnel.
Saw this on Twitter this morning…
ANSWER IS OBVIOUS 🙂 => MIAMI
One of the best.
Off to lunch and to get a hair cut 🙂
Hey Son/Mike/everyone:
I’m here reading everyday. Just as frustrated as everyone. Even started playing that dang draft game after last weeks loss, LOL.
LOL – That bad, huh?
Omar Kelly @OmarKelly 7m7 minutes ago
I don’t read blogs for information because I don’t need to listen to schickered klumniks fantasizing about some pipe dream of landing a QB like Mac Notwen who is a boychik schmeckle.
Mac Notwen pictured above
That’s funny because that’s the same guy that’s next to the definition of douche nozzle.
LMAO @ Tim
For me, it’s simple. I don’t see Tannehill as a guy who can win championships unless the team around him is very good. I think he’s as good as he’s gonna get, and the flaws in his game have not gotten better in over 4 years. He doesn’t make anybody around hm better. How long do we wait for them to build a great team around him? That could take forever…or never. That’s why every team wants a QB who can win games for you. And, there are a number of QBs who do it. Some folks around here act like that never happens, so we shouldn’t expect it from Tannehill.
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This whole franchise is a mess, and they have a whole lot of work to do if they plan on getting to a SB with Tannehill. It would have been so much easier if he was actually a franchise QB. Oh well, I have no faith in this franchise at this point. They’re floundering, badly.
To say he hasn’t improved is a tired and inaccurate debate.I think QBs winning games for you is one of the most exaggerated things in football but people will continue to say it.
Tim,
I said he hasn’t improved on his flaws. Read closely. And we do see QBs making plays each week to win games for their teams. To deny that is pointless. It happens every week.
LMAO, this blog is comedy gold with all the hypocrisy, reverse misdirection, delusions, and fantasies….
Guess that’s what a sub .500 team does to their fans.
Thanks for the laughs though in the face of diversity.
Real quick…Tannehill is not the problem, he’s not the reason teams are running at will against us. Suh hasn’t done shit. Grimes is wayyy overrated (at least by some of this crew). He’s always chasing the WR and stumbling like Prince in his “Kiss” video when he’s chasing a chick at about the 2:52 mark. We need to run a minimum of 20 times to help open up the pass game. Mac Notwen has been successful because he runs some, and J-Stew gets the ball over 20 times a game regardless of output. and last, the slide continues…HOWIE 34 – 13 Eagles.
None of those points, no matter how valid, make Tanne the solution, either.
Tanny is a huge part of the reason we can’t score. But hey….keep sticking your heads in the sand if it makes you feel better. Another year….another excuse for him not getting it done.
Tanny is 7th in passing yards, Luck, Wilson, & Fig Newton are 21, 22, & 23rd respectively.
Hmm, maybe their teams are more balanced with better personnel around them, better coaching & play calling ya think.
They’re reshowing the tomatoes beating the cucumbers
That was a weird match up of fugly uni’s. Was hard to watch.
I picked Buffalo in the pool. Was a nice win for Rex who really let his emotion out after the clock went to all 0’s.
What a nice FA pickup in Shady McCoy and nice draft pick in a fav of mine Karlos Williams.
Buffalo’s D was also very stout, and especially their ST’s with Rambo accounting for 2-3 of the 4 Jests TO’s.
Kudos Jills.
They have been drafting well. I liked Ronald Darby in the draft.
Yep, Darby had some real key PD’s in the game too.
The Jills seemed to keep the Jests off balance and never quite let them get back into the game or into a rhythm. Was spirited play by Rex’s minions.