Welcome to Ask Mike – 2015 Season Week 13

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from Lee (Uwantwat)

Q – Mike,

Now we have finally got rid of Lazor do you think we will see any improvement in the Offensive side of the team?
Can young Taylor find the balls to let our RBs actually tote the rock? My personal take on the team is we stuffed up by shifting to
a ZBS OL and moving from a 3-4 Def. We seem to have no clue how to play the game anymore. Your thoughts.
Lee (Uwantwat)

I think we’ll definitely see the offense more balanced with a fair amount of rushing the football. I don’t think it will necessarily be “balls” though, when the HC (interim or not) just fired the previous OC because he wouldn’t allow the offense to run the ball. I think Zac Taylor will mix it up for sure. He’s getting a shot here, and these games will have his stamp on them, win or lose.

We have some seriously fresh horses in the barn, just waiting to run. Lamar Miller has only a little more than half the carries he had last season, 119 carries, he finished the season with 216 last season. Miller is averaging 4.8 YPC, while last year he averaged 5.1. Jay Ajayi is really fresh, after recovering from broken ribs earlier in the season, Ajayi has only 18 carries for 108 yards and a heady 6.0 YPC. Last season at Boise St., Ajayi had 347 carries, so I think Ajayi would love to get some carries the rest of the way. In other words, there is no excuse not to run the ball. The stats bear out when we pass more than 40 times we lose almost every time. Our O-line seems so much more settled when he have balance of rushing to passing.

I think because we’re going to commit to the run, we will see improvement in our offense. Rishard Matthews is banged up, but we drafted Devante Parker for a reason, so now he gets his chance, and it’s time for him to seize the opportunity. I’d also like to see TE Jordan Cameron more involved. He seems very underused for some reason, and I don’t get why. In weeks 3,4 and 5, Cameron was targeted 8,9,8 times, but since then, he hasn’t been targeted more than 5 times. Incidentally, he hasn’t logged more than 4 receptions in a game this season.

Regarding the 3-4 defense as opposed to the 4-3, I think it’s a talent issue, not a scheme issue. Our LB’s are awful, and if we were to change to a 3-4, the only 2 fits I could see at LB would be Vernon (OLB) and Misi (ILB). I don’t think anyone else we currently have on the roster (excluding Dion FF) who fits at LB in the 3-4, and that would also likely mean Suh moving to 3-4 DE, which I’m not sure he would want to do, so I don’t think it’s likely.
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from Kong

Q – Tannehill?

Overpaid? Oversacked? Overrated? Underprotected? Underappreciated? All of the above?

I know stats don’t tell the whole story, but it’s really so unfair to cavalierly (thanks Kong!) compare Ryan Tannehill to Chad Henne. Checkdown Chad has 58 TD’s and 63 INT’s and has a less than 60% completion percentage. He has a higher INT % (3.2) than a TD % (3.0). Some people here have gone as far as comparing him to Henne, and that’s just silly. He compares much closer to Superman (Mac Notwen). Ryan Tannehill has a career 62.0 completion %, Cam Newton has a 59.1 %. Ryan has a 4.0 TD %, Cam has a 4.5 TD %. Ryan has a 2.5 INT %, Cam has a 2.8 INT %. Cam had 14,426 passing yards after his first 4 seasons, and Ryan has 14,245 passing yards after 3 season, 11 games. The biggest difference is in rushing yards and rushing TD, where Cam has a huge advantage. Cam had 2571 rushing yards and 33 TD’s, while Ryan only has 817 rushing yards, and 4 TD’s.

Anyway, it’s not really about Ryan vs Cam, or any other QB for that matter. We need a better team, it’s as simple as that. We need better coaching. Tannehill was on the rise until this clusterf*ck of a season happened. We started off slow with Joe Philbin at the helm, we rallied for 2 games against lesser competition and dominated, and then fell back to earth against the Patriots and Buffalo, and then eked out a win against the Eagles, and lost miserably to Dallas and the Jets. It’s so hard to fairly assess Tannehill this year, it just is. I know he hasn’t played his best football, and yes, he seems aloof, or uncaring at times, which admittedly upsets me, but what Ryan needs is Dan Campbell to hug him and tell him “It’s not your fault” It’s not your fault” It’s not your fault” Maybe Ryan says “Not you Dan”, or maybe he just cries like a baby, I’m not sure.
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from Rick (GDP)

Q – Dear Axe Mike,

With 5 games left . . .

If you could axe Ross 1 question, what would it be?
…and if you could tell Mancampbell 1 thing what would it be?

Sincerely,
GDP searching 4 answers.

OK, here goes:


Mike E:Mr. Ross, isn’t it about time that we just wipe the slate clean, from the top, all the way to the bottom, find a qualified HC or GM, and start all over, with a new regime entirely, keeping no one currently in office?

Mike E:Dan, I appreciate everything you did for the Dolphins, both as TE’s coach, and as Interim Head Coach, but I think it’s time (Mike E. starts running away) we bring in a qualified (running faster!) Head Coach to run this team, one who can not only inspire the players, but one that ( running even faster now!) (pulls hamstring!) (limping) that can manage a game, and command his staff, one that knows what type of players and schemes on both offense and defense he wants to run, and knows which coaches (out of breath and limping badly) he wants to do this, (as ManCampbell jogs over to a limping Mike E in a menacing fashion) most of all, I thank you, and hope your time as interim HC in Miami affords you better opportunities in the future!
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from Stanger

Q – What does Coach Rambo have to do the rest of the year to be our Head Coach next year?  Is there even a chance of it?

stanger

I don’t think if ManCampbell wins out, it’s going to make a difference as to whether he’s in the running for HC next year.
If they want to seriously make changes, and try to create an entirely new system, Campbell’s name shouldn’t be in the running. If Ross insists that we keep Tannenbaum and Hickey, and just try to fill the slot of HC, and coordinators, I think once again, we have made the mistake of not tearing everything down and starting fresh. I suppose if that’s how they go about it, then Campbell may be a contender for the job no matter what we do the rest of this season. I think that would be a shame, no different than keeping Ireland on after Sparano was fired, and no different allowing Joe Philbin to choose a GM that suited him. For once, please do the right thing, and tear it down completely, top to bottom, and build something from the ground up, and stop trying to fit bricks in on the 33rd floor that fit. Enough of that, it doesn’t work!
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diane lane

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484 Responses to Welcome to Ask Mike – 2015 Season Week 13

  1. finfanrob says:

    jetsssuck says:
    December 4, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    and how is Iraq working out?

    you are an attention seeking fool. i will only answer this question cause guess you are not smart enough to figure it out on your own. you can only help those who want help.

  2. ocalahowie says:

    What did that FBI guy say today
    There are some 900 muslins that they are watching and like 90 who are an imminent threat.
    Well why are those 90 still here and free? I guess we cant touch them till they Kill 20 or 30 Americans.
    Yet those Scum who are not allowed to board aircraft are free to purchase any gun that is sold legally in the United States
    WHAT THE FUCK!

    • jetsssuck says:

      Do you think the FBI is only watching Muslims? The Muslims come from many nations. The 90 or so you are talking about are probably being monitored 24/7. Look, the Texas isis threat was stopped because of monitoring.

  3. Tim Knight says:

    Sorry I started this. It boiled with me today and that’s how I feel. I feel for the terrorists’ relatives who are not like that and are just trying to live a good life. Those two fuckups left a 6th month old daughter for this? WTF is that about? Open your eyes!

  4. finfanrob says:

    jetsssuck says:
    December 4, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    wow, that is well thought out. Are you really that smart?

    no, i am not. but i guess you arent either

  5. finfanrob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    December 4, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    Sorry I started this. It boiled with me today and that’s how I feel. I feel for the terrorists’ relatives who are not like that and are just trying to live a good life.

    tim,

    i hate this, i do. but that is what happens during war. and they have waged war. imagine if during WWII the govt didnt want to hurt the innocent. they never would have been bombing the german factories. just let them keep building their armor. or dropping the bomb on japan, it would have been and invasion killing hundreds of thousands American lives.

    i am sorry, but i have nothing against your religion. but when your religion means you slaughter innocent lives then i dont really care what happens to you and your innocent relatives

    • jetsssuck says:

      finfanrob says:
      yeah, i knew that. but just was pointing out how ignorant his comment was. it is what happens when you dont plagiarize others
      Reply

      jetsssuck says:
      December 4, 2015 at 9:02 pm

      And you don’t racial profile? I’ve seen it lots of times from you.

    • Tim Knight says:

      This is WWIII and I feel the same way. It’s just a different type of war.

    • jetsssuck says:

      is this racial profiling or what.

  6. finfanrob says:

    jetsssuck says:
    December 4, 2015 at 9:02 pm

    And you don’t racial profile? I’ve seen it lots of times from you.

    yeah dimwit. i have said that over and over. i do it every day of my life. only a fool doesnt admit he/she doesnt do it.

    • Tim Knight says:

      LOL, I feel like I said this already too.

      Hey look it’s a crocodile, let’s treat it like a bunny who might nip our bum. LOL

  7. finfanrob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    December 4, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    This is WWIII and I feel the same way. It’s just a different type of war.

    no it isnt. it is the same kind of war. a people that want to exterminate you way of life. the only difference is now a days information is so much more available. i had a client that was at pearl harbor. he said when he left, he had no idea what electricity was, didnt have it on his farm. now a days it is all out there. so things are different now. but it is still war like WWII, others wanting to exterminate our way of life. fuck them, there is collateral damage in war. they waged it, i didnt

  8. finfanrob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    December 4, 2015 at 9:32 pm

    LOL, I feel like I said this already too.

    Hey look it’s a crocodile, let’s treat it like a bunny who might nip our bum. LOL

    lol tim. i think i have said that over and over. we do it every day in life. and not just whom might hurt us but in real life every day. who doesnt look at some 400lb woman in yoga pants and say ‘hey, bet you shop at walmart’

  9. stangerx says:

    “Shirley, Mass (WHDH) –
    Aaron Hernandez has been moved to a segregated unit at Souza Baranowski Correctional Center after guards found a shank in his cell.”

    ————–

    Pats fans are protesting, claiming that everyone in the prison has a shank and that Aaron was singled out just cause the Pats are “wicked good.”

  10. finfanrob says:

    Pats fans are protesting, claiming that everyone in the prison has a shank and that Aaron was singled out just cause the Pats are “wicked good.”

    not what i read. i mean i read the story but i heard that Panther fans were worried he would use it to deflate the SB balls for tom cheaty

  11. CavalierKong says:

    I’m not judging anybody on this board, you’re all my friends. I’m just presenting another perspective of this dialogue.

    It sucks how the extremists have ruined things for people of their own religion. With the methods of attack these terrorist groups like ISIS use, it’s only natural that people would turn against Muslims in general (somewhat like I’ve been reading on this board).

    Not all Muslims are killers and terrorists. I deal with people (read: including Muslims) everyday that are thankful for the opportunity our great country provides to them. They appreciate the opportunity to create a life without bombs going off in neighborhoods everyday, and feeling a modicum of safety. The opportunity to open businesses, live free, and try to enjoy the American dream.

    When we start talking about eradicating all Muslims and kicking them all out, I feel like the terrorists are winning.

    I understand the anger. I was so enraged at the most recent shooting at a center for disabled adults. Really? Attack a center for disabled people? It’s sick and twisted. Period. But to turn that anger towards all Muslims is misguided. Honestly, it seems to me it’s a very similar mentality to black folk that hate all white people because of racism and mistreatment by white folk. There are a lot of racist, asshole white people, and black folk deal with racism daily, but that doesn’t mean we’re all bad, or even that most of us are bad. It’s not a perfect analogy because being white isn’t an ideology, lol, but the concept feels very similar to me.

    When i deal with a black person that obviously dislikes me because I’m white, I often wonder “why does this person hate me? Does he think all white people hate black people? Is he just beating me to the “punch” he thinks I’m going to throw? Does he just hate white people and doesn’t care what we think, and that’s just the way it is?” I see a similar reaction to Muslims just because they are Muslim.

    It saddens me knowing these lines are drawn in the sand, and some of us are forced to a side based on pure stupidity,fear, and reactionary ignorance, because fucking people can’t just live and let live.

    I’ve never been directly affected by terrorism; maybe I’d have a different outlook if I had. Who knows?

  12. finfanrob says:

    and thus life as it is now. we are all put in our place by a big hairy ape.

    well put kong, very well put.

  13. finfanrob says:

    CavalierKong says:
    December 4, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    I’m not judging anybody on this board, you’re all my friends. I’m just presenting another perspective of this dialogue.

    yes, we are all friends here. lots of busting on each other. this is such a great place for an outlet to just talk with others. a very nice place to just chat with others we would never ever get a chance too. and even meet some that you consider very special in your life.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Thanks, rob.
      I love this place. I still find myself surprised sometimes to realize I’ve been talking with most the people on this board for nearly 10 years. 10 years! That’s longer than most friendships I’ve cultivated in my life. I think the people here are a wonderful mix of America and our brethren over seas as well. People can actually have conversations here and talk very different points of view, and it usually doesn’t devolve into a bunch of name calling (just sometimes, lol).

      Cheers, my friend.

  14. Tim Knight says:

    Kong, I never said eradicate all Muslims. I said militants/terrorists/anti-American/Westerners/etc. People who want to kill for their own ego and ideology. Sorry if they haven’t fought for their freedom like many have in America for ours. I appreciate every person who served this country. To not uphold this vigilance and sacrifice is a slap in the face to all that has been done over the years.

    Many nations have become at least neighborly over the years through the most violent and unsettled times, and now these fuckholes come along. The radicals. We all know who the enemy is.

    If it gets out of hand though, remember what Truman did. It’s coming again. It may not even be us. Russia may do it. Sometimes you have to say enough is enough. End it. No more Imperial Japan. Now an ally of the USA and great technology and prosperity shared by both. Put down the sword.

  15. Rockphin says:

    I was just thinking about something. Does anyone else see a correlation between the amount of injuries we have been dealing with and Campbell’s more physical and intense practice regimen?

    • CavalierKong says:

      Rock,
      Interesting question. I think I’m just bitter, but it feels like we’ve been dealing with an abundance of damn injuries all year, even before Campbell took over.

    • steveccnv says:

      No, I do see more injuries that we’re giving our opponents though.

  16. CavalierKong says:

    Tim,

    I didn’t single you out as having said eradicate all Muslims. It was said during the course of the discussion, and seemingly as a natural progression of anger.

    I’m all for wiping out the extremists like ISIS. That is the only way to deal with those assholes. There is nothing redeemable in those groups and what they stand for, but it’s extremely important we keep perspective and not let the conversation turn to outright hostility against an entire group of people.

    And just to make my position perfectly clear (I can see a “Kong wants to let them all come over here” comment in my future), I’m not taking a stand for letting Syrian refugees into the country, or saying no against profiling as a means to an end, or saying I’m a sympathizer of anything, other than don’t fucking label entire groups of people. I’m saying keep the conversation smart.

  17. ocalahowie says:

    Morning Update
    DOLPHINS-RAVENS
    T/P 21-12 BAL
    Howie 17-17 TIE
    Real 24-13 BAL
    Piggy 24-14 MIA
    Stang 38-14 MIA
    Old 29-27 MIA
    Al 31-17 MIA
    Rock 24-17 BAL
    BriNY 34-14 MIA
    WE’RE REAL BAD 😦

  18. Mike E. says:

    Kong

    Well said!

    I would have never guessed you were a giant white hairy ape.

  19. Try Pod says:

    I saw the above conversation going on last night, and thought, “I don’t have the energy for this”, so I quietly closed the door and walked away. Too easy for it to degrade into something ugly. Fortunately it seemed to end with no bloodshed.
    I truly don’t have the answer to this. I will say the people with with the best chance of fixing the real problem are the people whose religion it is.

  20. Try Pod says:

    This is funny- and sad:

    • steveccnv says:

      I saw this live and was pretty sure GB was going to win as the ball was in the air, because they had like 4 guys wide open where the ball was headed. The trajectory of the ball was perfect, just like Flacco throws them, it came down like it was being dropped from the sky, giving it more chance of being caught.

      We’ve all seen the facemask by now, and I wanted GB to win, but come on man! It was pretty obvious to me, while watching the replay when it happened, that once contacted Rogers turned his head to make it look like a facemask. They asked some NFL guru if Rogers moved his head to try and draw the facemask and he said it was ridiculous. Then why did Rogers immediately put his hand up asking for the facemask, genius?

      My problem with the facemask is, and I don’t care if it was facemask or not (this one wasn’t), they called it. I’m going to say it every time I see it, teams like the Cheats, Packers, Dallas, both NY teams… get these calls, way more so than other teams. Why? Because the NFL isn’t on the level.

  21. herdfan says:

    Since the subject of my lovely home state came up the other day and there seemed to be confusion about it I thought I’d post this for those who are geographically challenged.

  22. Ken says:

    Kong:
    You remind us all of why we should take pride in being American and why we should not lose our values because of the actions of a few demented extremists.

  23. Mike E. says:

    It sucks being a Dolphins fan. I hope that soon we can enjoy being a perennial contender, rather than a perennial loser.

  24. getterdone says:

    Lets Make the Dolphins Great Again!

    • Mike E. says:

      Think ManCampbell would be OK being TE’s coach again, maybe Asst. Head Coach?

      • getterdone says:

        Not sure how to answer that. I’m sure he aspires to now be more than a TE coach. But if that’s all he was offered anywhere I’m sure he would gladly accept since he really seems to love coaching.
        With Lazor gone, I hope we go on a run to finish the season and Campbell gets a real strong consideration to remain HC.
        There’s no can’t miss choices for HC that we can see as fans…IMO.
        Hope the FO gets it right for once!

  25. Mike E. says:

    GDP

    What has Campbell done that makes you think he’s actually qualified to be a Head Coach? I know you feel if we have excellent coordinators, he could get the job done, but shouldn’t the HC be more qualified than the coordinators?

    • getterdone says:

      It could go either way. Generally the experienced HC is the way to go and if a good leader can make the coordinators look good, get the best out of them.
      Then there are the times where the coordinators make the HC look good too.
      At the end of the day, it’s about team work, and I’m not talking just the players. The coaching staff needs to be all on the same page with the proper vision and proper systems for their personnel.
      They also need to be flexible and adaptable to personnel, injuries, game plans against them, and in game situations.
      Lots of moving parts that all need to be working in sync!

      A good gauge of Campbell will come down to the last 5 games with not a lot to play for post season wise, but to get better, develop young talent.
      If I’m Ross & the FO, I also find out what the players think of him. Will they ‘go thru a wall for him’, do they believe in him, is he developing and using them the right way in their minds as well?

      I’d ask them this, cause that means a lot. That’s leadership, the HC’s primary job. So because of that, I’d also ask the coaches under him at this time the same type of questions asked of the players. Then you’d know if other coaches would want to coach under him.

      He is young and inexperienced as a HC. But the thing Ross & the FO needs to strongly consider is, Does he have that ‘it’ factor you look for!
      Don Shula did as well as a few other young HC’s in the annals of NFL history.

      • steveccnv says:

        He doesn’t show any signs of having IT, all he’s done is made them a tougher team and rallied them a couple of games.

  26. Tim Knight says:

    I was angry last night and I apologized for starting the conversation. That’s also why I bailed. I’m just sick of it. Let’s wait for a few more mass murders and maybe get some footage of people celebrating it and then we can discuss it again if none of us happen to be the victims this time.

    • getterdone says:

      Sadly it’s going to continue for more than one reason that I won’t get into.
      Just be strong, prepared, vigilant, calm, & protect your family.

  27. Tim Knight says:

    I do think Campbell could be a good HC with a fresh start and a chance to pick his own staff from the beginning but I don’t think it will happen in Miami. I think Ross will target a proven HC.

    • getterdone says:

      That’s probably what will happen and he’ll go onto being a perennial post season contender wherever he goes next
      That’s our Phins luck….smh

  28. herdfan says:

    Tim, I don’t really see the need for you to apologize or censor whatever you want to say. Recent events have everyone feeling much the same way.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Thanks, Herd. I was venting for sure and I just happen to be one of those people who feel for innocent people who lost their lives to these pieces of shit. But that’s just me, I’m silly like that. 😉

  29. steveccnv says:

    Why anyone would want Campbell as our head coach next yr is beyond me. To win the division we have to beat the cheats, he hasn’t shown me anything to make me believe he can compete with them. He’s clueless at how to manage a clock at the end of games, but he can get someone to do that. The real issue is strategizing to beat them.

    Sure you can get coordinators to do that for you, but how long will they last, if they’re any good. The HC needs to be smart and have a clue.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Well he knows the game, has a passion for it and I believe he’s a leader of men. This was his first go around as a HC under not so great circumstances. This team is a mess so to me it’s not on him. This team is not as good or as talented as people thought. Yes we do have some talent and promise but more work is needed unfortunately.

  30. getterdone says:

    One thing that really hurts Campbell that he inherited is the Phins have went from 24th rated Run Defense in 2014 & the late season slide to miss the playoffs, to seeing Suh signed to the biggest NFL contract league wide & our 2015 Run defense falling, failing, to 32nd, dead last in the league.
    That’s even worse than the Defense we had in 2007, the 1-15 season.
    That type of defense couldn’t even get Shula & Marino into the playoffs/super bowl.

    • steveccnv says:

      The problem with the run D is the LBs, the Dline occupies the Oline, but the LBs don’t make the play. It’s mostly on the MLB, we must get a good one early in the draft.

      • getterdone says:

        Ok, we’ll go with that, but regardless it has severely hurt the overall team and the chances of winning any games.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’m sure LB will be high on our list. Not sure if there is that sure thing MLB in this draft. Really good 3 down LB/MLB are hard to find. But I’m pretty sure we’ll be addressing the LB position regardless of who the next regime/HC is.

        I know right now every keeps mentioning Jaylon Smith but I’ve read some scouts say he’s better suited outside in the NFL. He’s a bit on the slim side for the inside.

  31. Brian in NY says:

    Tim,
    Jaylon Smith makes plays though. I’d like to see either him or Myles Jack. One of the main reasons this defense is underperforming is because of the lack of play-making LB’s.

  32. herdfan says:

    I like Campbell, and it would have been a great story, he comes in as interim coach and turns it around but it’s not really gone that way. I think for him to become anything other than the interim coach he would have had to knock it out of the park. Granted, the fact you are coming in as an interim coach is it’s a bad situation to start with so not his fault necessarily. Sorry GDP.

    • getterdone says:

      What are you sorry for?

    • Tim Knight says:

      His only chance to remain is he turns the team around starting right now, as in winning at least 4 of the last 5. I just don’t see it happening.

    • Brian in NY says:

      I agree. The only way he even has a shot of staying is with a 5-0 finish, which is highly unlikely. I think he has the passion, but does he have the football IQ to effectively game plan on week to week basis? Recent games have suggested no.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Even winning 4 of the last 5 would be a good showing. But we can’t keep getting blown out every other game either.

  33. getterdone says:

    The thing Ross, the FO, and us know it all fans need to ask ourselves after the next 5 games are done is;
    Is Dan Campbell an upgrade over Joe Philbin, and if so, what kind of coaching staff can make that difference very significant than to that of which Philbin brought here?

    When interviewed can Campbell show more evidence, have a better vision, be more convincing, & ‘lead’ his potential employers to desire him as much as his players do. 😉

    That’s what I’d be looking for in all the candidates that will be interviewed.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Like I just said to Herd, it has to start right now. Let’s see the approach the offense takes now that Lazor is gone. The only chance this team has of say winning 3 or 4 of it’s remaining games is for the offense to go on a run. The defense isn’t good enough to carry them and scoring 20 or less points per game isn’t good enough and that’s what this offense is right now.

      • getterdone says:

        Yep, I’m expecting some new life from the Offense, even tho they can’t overall that flawed Lazor system completely yet. But at least show some commitment to running the damn ball.

  34. Tim Knight says:

    Brian, like I said what I’ve read from scouting reports Smith is considered more of an OLB in the NFL. That doesn’t mean he’s not good or wouldn’t be a good pick for us. He just may not be a MLB.

  35. Mike E. says:

    The only thing that scares about the players willing to run through a wall for Campbell is they said the same about Tony Sparano. We all know he overstayed his welcome here as HC.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Saying it and doing it are two different things. The Jets players said the same thing about Rex and and they went 4-12 and got blown out multiple times. Talent is still the key. We have a lot of voids unfortunately.

    • getterdone says:

      Running thru the wall for the HC is more than just getting all crazy & jacked for game day.
      It’s being committed to football 24/7, in the weight room, in the film room, on the practice field, etc etc.
      Not many guys seem to want to be that guy that can excel to a different level these days.

  36. herdfan says:

    getterdone says:
    December 5, 2015 at 3:10 pm (Edit)

    What are you sorry for?

    Because you want Campbell to be the HC next year and it’s not going to happen. lol

    • getterdone says:

      Out of context! I never said I want him to be HC, yeah it would be a nice story. Yeah he’s someone I like with his straight from the hip attitude. I think with the right staff and personnel moves he could be good.
      But a lot of his being here depends on what he gets out of the remaining ashes of this imploded team and will it be enough to convince Ross & Co.

      I’m also ok with another HC, if it’s the right one and not just chasing names again.

  37. herdfan says:

    Mike E. says:
    December 5, 2015 at 3:16 pm (Edit)

    The only thing that scares about the players willing to run through a wall for Campbell is they said the same about Tony Sparano. We all know he overstayed his welcome here as HC.

    I’ve thought about that. Sparano really didn’t have a very good team to work with when you think back on it and he did try to change things, make adjustments when something wasn’t working. Plus, the players liked him. I really thing\k we would have been better off today if we had kept him and gotten rid of Ireland. Or maybe I’ve become senile! lol

    • getterdone says:

      Sparano never went on to doing any better elsewhere with the Jests, Raiders, or 49’ers.
      The jury is still out on Campbell who’s nearly 20 years younger than Tony.

      • herdfan says:

        It’s not like I’m saying he should be our coach. I’m sayin…nevermind, you can re read it, no need to type it out again.

        I don’t think age is a big factor in this either except the older coaches are going to have more experience which is a definite plus in my book.

  38. Tim Knight says:

    Even just calling more sensible plays on down and distance should help this offense.

    How about this:
    On 1st down if we run and pick up 4+ yards, how about running again and not throwing a pass at the LOS on 2nd down which results in minimal yardage most of the time anyway. Maybe then it’s 3rd and 2 which is manageable and go from there. Stop with the asinine play calls and trying to be tricky with stupid shit. take advantage of Miller and Ajayi. Miller is our most explosive player and Lazor minimized him too often. That right there was a sign of a guy who didn’t get it.

  39. Tim Knight says:

    Mike E, coaching matters but this team also needs some better players.

    • Mike E. says:

      I know we need better players, but it also seems like we can never extract enough from our players, and that’s disappointing.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Unfortunately we have too many young players not really ready to start or play a lot starting and playing a lot. We also can’t catch a break. Albert works his way back, James goes down. Douglas and Turner have been up and down at G then Pouncey goes down and Douglas has to play center. We can’t seem to get anything going up front. Then on defense we’re playing young undrafted LBs and young DBs who are still a bit green. We lack big time playmakers as well. Hopefully Parker starts to bring some of that.

    • getterdone says:

      ….and don’t forget now we’re down 3 DT’s, once a position of strength before we abruptly cut Francis, then lost Mosely & Mitchell to injury.
      Now suddenly drafting Phillips in the 2nd round looks genius…lol

      • Brian in NY says:

        It doesn’t matter if we are down DT’s IMO. We’ve been getting gashed no matter who is in there.

      • getterdone says:

        Correct, there’s a fundamental and system/scheme problem on both sides of the ball with this team.
        IMO, Philbin built a horrible staff, in his coordinators anyways.

  40. finfanrob says:

    well, maybe that is why the fins suck and are losing. instead of playing football the players are busy running thru walls

  41. CavalierKong says:

    I’m not sure about Campbell as HC. I like the guy but IMO he’ll basically have to win out to have chance at keeping the HC position. Personally, I want to see a veteran HC that has a proven track record, but there aren’t a lot of viable options out there to choose from.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I still think Mike Smith 2nd time around could be a charm. He’s had a year off to recharge and has had success. More so than other coach available I can think of. 7 seasons, 5 winning, 4 playoff appearances, two 13-3 seasons and a championship game appearance. Gee wouldn’t that be nice. He can also put together a good staff being that he’s been around for awhile and has had success. He’s got some clout.

      • CavalierKong says:

        I know he’s a controversial choice for HC on this board, but I agree. He has experience and has shown he can take a crap team and at least get them to the playoffs. I’m just sick of first time HCs

  42. Tim Knight says:

    Phillips is going to be good. He flashes every game, anchors well and gets his hand up and blocks passing lanes and passes (3). He’s also got a couple of sacks.

    • CavalierKong says:

      I like Phillips. He seems to have a knack for getting in the passing lane. He should only get better as he gains experience. Biting as a pup and what-not.

      • Tim Knight says:

        He could also be a 3-4 NT if a new staff goes that way. He’s massive at 6-6 330, powerful and can move for a big man.

  43. CavalierKong says:

    Frankly at this point, I’d rather see us lose out the flipping season and get as high a pick as possible. I stopped actually enjoying the games sometime around the New England game. Even the wins aren’t fun for me right now. 😦

    • Tim Knight says:

      There are always good prospects throughout the 1st rd and into the 2nd. It’s about picking the right guy. Like not taking Ted Ginn at #9 when Patrick Willis is sitting there. SMH

      • CavalierKong says:

        Yeah, but if we can get into the top 3 you have to figure we’re guaranteed a quality player. Only a team that REALLY sucks could miss on the 3rd pick in the draft…..

  44. getterdone says:

    Tim, I thought about Mike Smith before & have mentioned him as a candidate to look at. But I’d really scrutinize him in the vetting process as we should all candidates.
    I want a gutsy coach that has nerves of steel and is smart, crafty, can quickly think on the fly.

    I saw this the other day about Mike Smith. From a Falcons fans blog perspective. Interesting reader comments follow as well.

    http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2015/6/2/8694261/when-did-it-all-go-wrong-for-former-falcons-head-coach-mike-smith

    • Tim Knight says:

      I didn’t even read it because it was the personnel dept. that shit the bed in ATL. Look at the once 5-0 Falcons this year now 6-5. Outside of a handful of really good players their roster stinks.

      Smith said in 2013 that his team wasn’t physical enough and that carried through into his last season in 2014. It was a personnel issue. When the old guard of Gonzo, Jackson, Abraham and White (he’s no longer the player he once was) etc. were done there wasn’t a lot of vet experience and leadership left.

  45. Tim Knight says:

    Kong, right now we’re picking 7th and most likely we’ll be top 10 when it’s all said and done. If you can’t find a good player top 10 then something is wrong.

    • CavalierKong says:

      Absolutely. Like you said, anywhere in the first 1st rd we should be able to get a damned good player. I was just taking a shot at the Dion Jordan pick. lol, ugh, what a waste of a pick.

  46. finfanrob says:

    This florida qb, has to be the worst qb i have ever seen play. the gators would be better just adding a linemen and running the wildcat all second half

  47. Tim Knight says:

    Kong, Dion Fuckface was worthy of a #3 pick talent-wise but who knew he was an idiot?

    • CavalierKong says:

      I recall reading he was the safest pick in the draft. The jerk. I hope he gets herpes.

      • Tim Knight says:

        LOL

        What’s weird is he’s still our property and could be back if he turns his asshole ways around. I’m not counting on it but it’s possible. If he does do that we could go 3-4 defense next year which would be best for Jordan as a 3-4 OLB. That’s probably McCain’s best position too.

  48. Tim Knight says:

    Just based on what we’ve seen unless we all of a sudden go on a crazy run, we’ll likely only win 2 more games, 3 tops. So we’re going to finish 6-10 or 7-9. That will likely get us a top 10 pick.

    • CavalierKong says:

      It bums me out to be in this mode at this point of the season. I think the only time I’ve felt this hopeless as a fan was in the 2007 season. We just can’t seem to get it right.

      How do fans of teams like the Browns and Lions stick with a team after an entire lifetime of failure? I’m starting to gain a newfound respect for those fans bases, lol.

      • Tim Knight says:

        We had a great run with a legendary coach in Shula and then a great QB in Marino at Shula’s end. Now we’re in that mediocre era and it sucks.

  49. finfanrob says:

    CavalierKong says:
    December 5, 2015 at 5:51 pm

    I recall reading he was the safest pick in the draft. The jerk. I hope he gets herpes.

    gets? i thought he was herpes.

  50. Tim Knight says:

    2016 draft needs.
    Offense
    OT – depth and eventual starter at LT after we move on from Albert
    WR – more speed
    RB – depth in case we lose Miller

    Defense
    DE/OLB – edge rusher
    MLB/ILB – 3 down playmaker
    CB – more size, we’re too small at CB

    Then let the young players we already have compete for spots and got from there.

  51. finfanrob says:

    tim,

    other the this weeks game i dont see where you say this team has two wins. i guess they have a shot this week cause of all the ravens injuries but i dont see them winning any other game. hell, i am not sure they can beat the ravens this week. which is way fine with me, i would rather see them lose out then get some meaningless win and lower their draft selection.

  52. finfanrob says:

    tim,

    who? i get maybe the ravens but they are not better then anyone on he rest of their schedule. and even if the cheater is sitting the last game, which he never does by the way, they still arent better then the cheats

    • Tim Knight says:

      The Giants are not that good, neither are the Chargers or Colts.

      • Tim Knight says:

        4 of our last 5 games are at home not that we rock at home or anything, only one win. LOL

        This was suppose to be where we take advantage of our schedule hopefully heading into the playoffs. But we shit the bed winning 3 road games which is good but going only 1-3 at home. SMH

  53. finfanrob says:

    what a sad waste this gator defense is. they are damn good. one of the best in a while and their qb is just horrible. i dont think you can even call him a qb. i watched baylors 4th string qb today and that guy next to the gator qb looks like marino

  54. finfanrob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    December 5, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    The Giants are not that good, neither are the Chargers or Colts.

    you are correct sir, however the dolphins are worse then them.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Not really. They all have the same flaws we do. Colts are 6-5 in a bad division once again, the Giants are 5-6 in a bad division and the Chargers are 3-8 in a so so division.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        The chargers are not better than us
        I think the colts and giants are probably on the same level
        The NFL is bad this year
        There are plenty of bad teams
        If you are going to be bad
        The best thing you can do is to suck in your division like we do so you get a last place schedule and a high draft pick…lol

        The season might be over
        But I don’t think the future is quite as bleak as some people
        Albeit I’m pretty frustrated we are bad in a bad nfl year and we missed out postseason chance

  55. finfanrob says:

    5 mins to go in the 3rd qtr and the gators have 0 rushing yards.

  56. getterdone says:

    What a shame ya didn’t read the article Tim. It did make some good points as well as your valid point on personnel. Oh well. Just be careful before ya want to give Mike Smith control over the team.

  57. Tim Knight says:

    GD, also remember my opinion on Mike Smith means nothing. I won’t be hiring him. LOL

  58. finfanrob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    December 5, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    Why would I read a disgruntled fans’ perspective. I read that here every day. LOL

    cause it had pretty pictures

  59. The Flying Pig says:

    Kinda hoping Alabama would lose
    But I guess not

    That Michigan state Iowa game is a going to be a good one!

  60. herdfan says:

    I’ve not watched football all day. I can’t even be sure if I’ll watch tomorrow. Football has let me down this year. 😦

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m suppose to be going to Florida for the Giants game with my brother-in-law and it’s a ho-hum trip right now with my mother-in-law being sick and basically dying. This really sucks. It’s not impossible we both eat this trip and go from there. My wife is wiped out and her Dad who is also very old is really crotchety right now. Sad times. 😦

  61. finfanrob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    December 5, 2015 at 7:27 pm

    Kinda hoping Alabama would lose
    But I guess not

    how? i mean they only have to play half a team. the gators are like are like a ridged old hag…….no O

  62. finfanrob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    December 5, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    The chargers are not better than us

    well they have a qb. and by all accounts on here that is all you need to win. LOL

    but seriously, i dont know if they are better or not, but when fuckspatrick looks like marino against this defense i am sure rivers will blow them away.

  63. finfanrob says:

    lmao, wow do the officials suck this year. how in the world they called that an incomplete pass is beyond me. at least they over turned it

  64. herdfan says:

    Tim I’m really sorry to hear that. Makes me feel bad for complaining.

    • Tim Knight says:

      No worries, life gets tough as we age. It’s kind of a Catch 22. You learn to love people throughout life and enjoy being alive and then they leave us and the void is really difficult.

  65. The Flying Pig says:

    Maybe Diggs will come by if Iowa wins

  66. Tim Knight says:

    Herd, my life changed quite a bit when my uncle left us. He was there when I was born, my Mom’s youngest brother who was more of a brother than uncle to me. My Mom had me when she was 21. My uncle was 11 years younger. So it was an 18-8 relationship for me. That’s brother more than uncle.

    He turned me onto rock music and bought me albums for my birthday and X-mas throughout the years. He would take time out to play GI Joe with me even if it meant prolonging him getting laid as a young lad, which I now know he did for me. He was the type of a guy who take a bullet for you if it meant you surviving. He had a huge heart. I miss him.

  67. finfanrob says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    December 5, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    rhe chargers have been pretty disappointing this year

    piggy,

    ok, i will take you word on that. i dont know much about them or what was expected of them. just know they have a pretty good qb

  68. finfanrob says:

    ‘He was the type of a guy who take a bullet for you if it meant you surviving. He had a huge heart. I miss him.’

    bullet smullet, thats nothing, the real sacrifice was putting off getting laid. 🙂

  69. finfanrob says:

    tim,

    that is my specialty……..pissing off women

  70. Jahndoh30 says:

    I see there was some talk about MLB earlier. I remember getting a lot of pushback when I advocated for Kendricks as a potential first round pick. He was playing pretty damn good before he got hurt this year.

    Not saying I don’t like Parker or that the Fins made a mistake, but I am saying it’s kind of important to stay open minded when we’re debating these players predraft. You might not see it in a player, but somebody else just might. 😉

    Cheers all. Peace and love to all of you.

    • steveccnv says:

      Are you going to the SD game? I’ll be in section 1 upper deck.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      He was close to being available to us in the 2nd
      He went off the board right before we picked

      And then we traded down instead of taking Perryman
      And then we took Phillips

      We really could use one of those lbs now

  71. steveccnv says:

    The sports worlds corruption doesn’t disappoint, as a phantom offsides call, on an onside kick, recovered by NC with just over a minute left, trailing by 8, that they recovered was nullified.

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