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Lol @ Randy!
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000602145/article/dolphins-have-no-idea-how-to-properly-use-lamar-miller
Try Pod says:
December 15, 2015 at 2:26 pm
Yeah, it’s a bit contentious in here, no doubt. We’ll vent, commiserate and move on- eventually…
i dont get that. people just disagree. this is a blog, it isnt like we are all throwing punches in a bar. (by the way if we are ever in a bar, i call dibbs on sitting next to mike e with the sandpaper hand). even when this team wins people have a difference of opinion. and this blog has a lot of ball busters, so i dont see fighting just some good ole fun ball busting while stating ones opinion.
Maybe while you’re sitting next to Mike E you can have check your eyes so that you might “see” better…
“See” what I did, there?
Jahndoh30 says:
December 15, 2015 at 2:09 pm
I’m gonna dust off this old idea one more time, and before anyone gives me any lip, remember, NOTHING IS FUCKING WORKING WITH THIS ORGANIZATION FOR MANY YEARS. It’s time to try something radical.
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Yesss, Ross can sell the team to a radical muslim owner and we can declare jihad on the NFL. It’s working in Jacksonville so far. 😉
try,
are you kidding? you cant look mike e in the eyes. you just get all lost in those dreamy eyes and before you know it you are the one giving the helping hand
Enough of this- I’ve moved on to GOT fan theories…
Jahn:
I am not sure Marino is going to be the answer but I have no problem trying it because whatever we are doing isn’t working.
I’m just not sure his head is in it for the total commitment it would take. I think he likes bebopping around and not being stuck in one place slaving away. I could be wrong.
It does sound cool to have Marino at the helm though.
Piggy:
I disagree with you on the throw to Cameron. I love that he took a shot at the full 20 yards for the 1st down. We needed 7 and not to set up for a FG. Was the throw late? I think that is debatable. He stepped up nice in the pocket and he had to allow time for Cameron to go 20 yards down field. It would have been a tough catch but a catch that could have been made. I truly think Tannehill played a fine game last night and blaming him for the loss is misplaced frustration. There have been games this year that Tannehill deserves criticism for a poor performance, in particular last week was one. This week I thought he played well and he gave us chances to win. At some point some of our playmakers have to step up and be playmakers too. I don’t think they did last night.
Agreed. Said it earlier before you guys came on.
I screamed that last night in real time. Go for the 1st down. Take a shot. You’re a 5-7 team down by 7 with time clicking away. Don’t you dare run a draw or some dump off pass to gain a better FG position.
So I applauded the shot down the field. Yet Tanny gets bashed because it was late, or off target, or he should have seen Parker open to the right of Cameron. Yet the critique failed to mention he was under duress and had to chuck it instead of tasking a sack.
Tanny did his part. It takes 2 to make a big pass play great. Not just 1. (it also takes the OL doing good)
You could be right about Marino GDP, but I think at this point he’s got the ethics and experience to know whether or not to say yes to the job. One of his good friends is Pat Kirwan who has been an NFL GM and I know they’d talk considerably before Marino makes the decision. I doubt that’s the only former GM he’d consult with too.
Although I’ll say, I don’t see him much as a “be-bopper”. LOL…
I respect Pat Kirwan. Good post. Maybe it will happen. That and bring in Mike Shula. I keep banging the drum for him.
If I’m an owner in Miami, I do this NOW to keep from losing the base of diehard fans that are all about the glory days of the Shu.
Seats would be filled and hopes would be high. Mike has earned his stripes. Let him fly.
Jahn — just don’t think Marino wants that in his life, which is just as important as if he would be good at it. He might want to be a Parcells football Czar type, but then he doesn’t have the track record to be that.
Just don’t sense the desire to be the sleep four-hours a night during the season guy. And he has all the money he needs……might be different if he didn’t.
Extra thought — I’m sure he’d be willing to be the next Carl Peterson though.
I could dig Marino and Shula. Do it and stick with it
They both by now have tons of connections on asst. coaches, scouts, etc. It could be a good marriage that lasts for a freaking 15-20 years.
Do It!
Hand agree with Hulk on Tannehill last night.
Stanger
I don’t think the GM or guy handling football operations is the guy who burns the candle at both ends. I think that’s the HC, and possibly the coordinators. The upper management guys aren’t working the 80 hour weeks
80 hours a week would be a step down from the coaches in season though. I don’t really know, but guessing Hickey is more than a 9-5 guy. Maybe Tannebaum is, but then we get back to Marino has exactly zero management experience on his resume….’cept maybe for that one position he held for a couple days.
I don’t really know either, but my guess would be that the management guys aren’t working the long hours. The coaches have game plans to implement, film to watch and opponents to scout. I’d think the personnel guys can do mostly 9-5 work, maybe more when preparing for the draft and the new season
GDP
You never hear “Manning led OBJ too far, and he had to make a spectacular diving catch in the end zone”, because he made the damn catch. When the receiver does what he’s supposed to do, no one gets blamed
Takes 2 to make a play…or technically 11. 😉
Tannehill is the only QB to ever miss a target.
..with any consistency.
..on deep throws.
..and throws that require touch.
..or leading a receiver.
other than that, he’s as good as any of them- except for pocket awareness…
😁
I get that Tannehill missed Landry last night on that 3rd down throw. He was off on that one throw. However, that one miss does not mean he played a bad game. He made some really good throws too including 7 that were dropped.
That throw looked like Landry ran into the DB, then redirected himself some & it slowed him just enough. It happens. No blame to either. Jints DC game planned our predictable asses well.
“I’ve been here six years and nothing has gone the way that we wanted it to be. Every year we come in with new hope and, there again, we’re going to have another season where we have a playoff drought. I make damn sure that it stings and it hurts because the minute you go numb to that, then you’re just a loser. I want it to hurt. It motivates me and it pisses me off. It’s not too much for me to handle. To me, that’s how you get motivated to win because you get tired of losing and it stinks.”
Could Campbell actually be one of the posters on this board?
I’m thinking Randy 🙂
SMH at Omar gleefully seizing the opportunity to stir his big voodoo pot of BS!
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A horrible football team with BAD management, BAD coaching, mediocre QB play, no depth and no leadership. #MYTRUTHS https://twitter.com/RoyMay3/status/676864859015892992 …
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Some of you folks think playing for the Dolphins is a prize. In fact, many players think it’s a punishment.
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Let me stop before I hurt your feelings.
This rant was after he was brutally defending Grimes to some twitters bashing Grimey.
Mo cake fo you!
LMAO, that’s him. I knew he was a zombie.
Try:
This season Tannehill is among the best in the league on deep throws. His numbers on deep throws have dramatically improved this year. What is perplexing is that in the intermediate game where he was so good last year his numbers have trended down.
What does among the best mean?
I think he was 2nd in league in passess completed that traveled over 20 yards in the air. I tried to look up the stat but my computer at work is blocking my access to the site I found that on. He is completing a high percentage and high numbers of passes that have traveled over 20 yards in the air this season. He has really improved in that area of his game. His intermediate throws have trended down from last year.
Tannehill has no pocket that I’m aware of, so I’m sure he’s not aware of one either.
Oh wow! We’re playing the Chargers next week! How many NFL fans will be watching that gah-bage
Rivers is elite, he’s carrying his team to the playoffs. Oh wait….
getterdone says:
December 15, 2015 at 3:52 pm (Edit)
That throw looked like Landry ran into the DB, then redirected himself some & it slowed him just enough. It happens. No blame to either. Jints DC game planned our predictable asses well.
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No excuses on that one. He missed him. It happens. Only QB against us hit on all their passes or so it seems.
Landry was hurting too, his knee was really bothering him. He kept coming off the field a lot. I’m sure it slowed him some as well too. But the pass wasn’t there. The play sucked.
Tony Lippett will be getting a look at CB this week. I hope he shows well.
Maybe they should put him back at WR.
Goodell has no clue what he is doing yet he probably gets paid hundreds of times more than the combined salary of this blog. I wish I was that clueless.
If he threw 9 and completed three and the average is 90 and complete 30, then it’s the same 30% comp, for example
It was total completions over 20 yards traveled in the air and also % of completions for throws that traveled over 20 yards in the air. He was among the leaders in both those categories.
No offense, but that doesn’t mean anything without more info.
Good afternoon guys & gals 🙂
…from SS
Dolphins interim coach Dan Campbell said Tuesday that running back Lamar Miller only had one carry in the fourth quarter of Monday’s 31-24 loss to the New York Giants because of an ankle injury.
That contradicts Miller, who said after the game his right ankle was fine.
“This is the first that I’ve heard of, that he was OK to go in the second (half),” Campbell said. “If that’s what he told you guys…I knew that he wasn’t in there for a spell because I saw him limp off the field.
“So at that point I was just trying to manage the game.”
Campbell said it was first because of Miller’s injury, and then because of the game situation.
“He just had the ankle for a while,” Campbell said of Miller. “And then we got to the point we felt like we had to throw it a little bit more. The runs that we had, when you look at what we did in the second half, we ran really good in the first half, and we still busted a couple.
“But we come out and we get a one-yard gain and now it’s second and nine. We get a holding, we get a false start, we come out and run it for one. You know, I said it, there again, when you’re not efficient on first or second down when you run the ball you put yourself in a bind. You want to run it on second and 10 and now all of a sudden it’s third and 10, and that’s a problem.”
Copyright © 2015, Sun Sentinel
Everyone saw Landry limping but he was still in there. And why didn’t we run Ajayai more?
Ajayi should have been utilized more I agree. Some of the run plays that Campbell mentioned being unsuccessful there were poorly designed too.
Most of all, the penalties, especially the pre snap ones & holding are just killers in a tense game situation with clock running out. Kills any flow for the offense.
“Jahn — just don’t think Marino wants that in his life, which is just as important as if he would be good at it. He might want to be a Parcells football Czar type, but then he doesn’t have the track record to be that.
Just don’t sense the desire to be the sleep four-hours a night during the season guy. And he has all the money he needs……might be different if he didn’t.”
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Stanger,
I’m willing to let him have that choice to make rather than say I wouldn’t want him because he wouldn’t want it.
It’s kind of tangential to the conversation anyway. Whether Marino would want to or not is a different conversation than whether there’s a better idea. You addressed his “he doesn’t have the track record, and to that I say, I don’t care at all. This team has been an absolute mess for too long for us to start crossing off names because of perceptions on “track record”. Elway didn’t have the track record either.
One other thing you said I want to address. There is no GM who only sleeps for 4 hours a night DURING the season. That’s pretty much predraft for a few weeks and during the FA period. The sleepless nights during the season are specific to coaches.
Anyway…like I said, it’s kind of tangential. I don’t care much who thinks what about Marino thinks. If I were Ross, I’d get him on the phone and explore the conversation. I’m sick of this team’s miserable failures. If Marino failed as a GM, I’d still be glad we gave it a try.
Then it’s settled. Marino for GM. I’m all for it. He’d know all about getting proper OL players too. I’d bet he’d elicit great intel on the defensive side too. He’d also be one helluva leverage guy for luring FA’s here, that & the no state tax angle.
That’s what I thought too Jahn
Look out world when GDP and I take a stand on the same side! LOL….
I don’t know…I just wanted to throw it out there. I’m tired of losing, and nothing has worked, not the moves I disagreed with, not the moves I agreed with, nothing. Can’t be any worse than middle of the first round and out of the playoffs every single year. at least in 2008 we had the 1st overall pick in the draft to daydream about all offseason.
Jahn — this will probably the most pathetic comment ever, but I shook his hand and talked to him for like a minute. Just didn’t see it.
Maybe it was a bad moment and he was nice enough, but then part of my job used to be figuring out who “the players” were in a given situation. Also matches up with him taking the front office job and quickly leaving it.
I don’t know Stanger, you figured out that I’m a good guy pretty quickly, but if you gleaned all that from a handshake, Columbo’s got nothing on you brothah. 🙂
Also figured out you were a sarcastic MF from that handshake……lol
With Bobby McCain hurt and Grimes and Jamar Taylor struggling, the Dolphins plan to get a long look at rookie Tony Lippett in coverage Sunday, Campbell said.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article49872575.html#storylink=cpy
Beer please! Make mine a Yuengling please!
i dont know what i am more happy about. a jahn siting or his $12 words
Ah yes…words like tangential juxtaposed with the proletariat lexicon of the unwashed masses truly gasconade.
Rob
Both?
Ken says:
December 15, 2015 at 4:26 pm
Everyone saw Landry limping but he was still in there. And why didn’t we run Ajayai more?
cause he was picking up too many yards on each rush
mike
that is true, cant have a jahn siting without a $12 word.
Mike E, I too like Yuengling if I’m drinking a domestic type national brand with some flavor to it.
But I really really like Belgium style brews a lot.
I’ve never tried yuengling- need to, someday
But right now it’s winter, and I prefer the heavier, darker brews/not quite porters 🍺
i can say one thing. the fins suck, they out right fucking suck, but it is nice to have this place and the people here to come and vent and have some fun and good times while doing it.
sit on it!
Agreed on all counts Rob
Here here, thriceover. 😛 (toothless!)
And if we are talking about an ex-player to take over this team…….My money is on Zach.
He is the one to get involved in some way.
Stanger
That would be great too. I don’t think Zach would tolerate some of the shit that’s going on this season. For instance, he’d grab Landry after that penalty and straighten him out.
Dude turned 5th round into ring of honor.
He was never fast or big.
But somehow he was always a step faster than the rest.
And all anyone could talk about was how he studied and prepared.
Try
I’m the furthest from a beer aficionado, I don’t drink enough to have a solid opinion of them. I do like Yuengling and Bass Ale. Bass has been my go to for a long time, but more recently I enjoy Yuengling as well.
And Smithwicks…
Yes, very similar to Bass. Why is the W silent, doesn’t have anything to say?
Because the Irish do not pronounce “th”- it comes out as a “t”, so they just kept plowing right on past the w, too 😋
Try, Yuengling isn’t a light beer. Has some nice color to it for a lager. They also bottle a Black n Tan brew as well as a Porter, all affordable.
They also now have a limited IPL, but I haven’t tried that one yet.
FTR, I like the Black and Tan too
I like ipa’s, too, as long as they aren’t too hoppy!
Sweetwater 420 is right up that alley, not too bitterly hoppy. has some nice citrusy notes to it as well.
Don’t worry, be hoppy
You guys need to come to CA. 🙂
I will be going to the Craft Brewers Conference in Philly next May btw. in case anyone is going to be around at that point….
I like the craft beer competitions between east coast & west coast. Fun stuff.
Jahn, I see where Stone Brewing & Green Flash are opening east coast breweries now. I think they’re from SoCal, maybe SD area.
Aren’t you more north Cali?
What’s the name of your brewery? Most brewed beer?
Jahn
I’d love to go to Cali, and my wife really wants to go too. Someday. I’ll let you know when I make it out your way
Dolphins eliminated from playoffs and patsies with an open road to the SB. AGAIN. Shoot me.
Same ol’ same ol’
drg
LOL
drg
Not to pour Tabasco on your open wound, but the Jets are looking good for the playoffs too
They’ll miss it! @ Dallas, New England, @ Buffalo.
Oh, & they have Marshall.
I’ll give you guys a beer. When i spent a semester in London you walked into the local pub and ask for a bitter every time. Back in those days at least the pubs only served from one brewery and your choices were lager, bitter and stout. Bitter was the middle one and pure gold goodness, but for whatever reason it seemed it didn’t travel over the ocean for some reason.
Now with the draught flow can you can at least get close. Find one of these (have seen in a number of supermarkets), pop it, wait 45 seconds and then pour into a big glass.
I’ve had them in the can. Not too bad, but prefer from the tap. Usually your local authentic English & Irish pubs will have it on tap.
Have seen at Irish bars as well. But you can’t put one of those in your fridge. And maybe it is just personal taste, but I call it spectacular. It is at least different from whatever else is selling.
Cav,
I think I could handle the jets winning the SB if it meant an end to the patsies/Brady run….
er.. Mike
GDP,
That about sums up my feelings for the NFL lately!
Agreed. Between the bitterness of the Phins & the nerve grating plethora of penalty flags.
Stanger
Looks good. I’ll see if I can find Boddington’s
I like me some ale, so I’m sure ‘ll like it. I know I’ve brought it up many a time Jon, but have you ever had McSorley’s dark ale at McSorley’s in NYC?
I’ve had McSorley’s in the bottle (not sure if they still sell it that way).
Been in the place just once, but it was more like a tourist stop cause my friends and I saw it and said, “that’s the place we’ve heard of.” One beer to say we’d been there, but forget what I had.
But if you like McSorley’s, Murphy’s Irish Stout is another draught flow option.
Stanger
I thought the McSorley’s in a bottle was not even close to what I remember the fresh ale to be, and I also don’t think they packaged the dark ale, just the regular ale. I’d try Murphy’s as well.
Tanny is who he is….an average QB who will rarely be the reason we win a game, but he won’t lose many for you either. It’s time to realize this organization is looking at a new regime and more than likely another 3-4 years to build this team into a winner, if we get lucky and they actually hire the right people. This sucks.
I say we may never know what Tanny is until we get a solid coach in here. Until that happens, I reserve judgement.
https://twitter.com/finzcraphole/status/676642817754669056
This is a shot of the throw to Cameron
Look at the space below Cameron
that is where the ball goes to Cameron if its thrown earlier to Cameron
Look at Parker wide open
It was a good throw in the sense that it was catchable for Cameron
but that throw to Parker is so much more of a sure thing
or an earlier throw to Cameron
Tanny makes catches tougher than they should be all the time
You can argue that the ball was catchable by the receiver until your blue in the face
most throws are catchable if they are near the receiver
but a QB should not make the receivers job as tough as Tanny is making it for his receivers
He makes these sort of throws or mistakes all the time
He just is not seeing the field right
not react soon enough either
and it makes for a tough catch
then people hop up and down about the receiver should have made the catch
FWIW
I really don’t get targeting Landry 18 times
or featuring Sims so much in the game
or forgetting about Miller in the 2nd half
WTF is the problem with this team
They don’t have a clue how to run a team.
Randy says:
December 15, 2015 at 8:43 pm
Tanny is who he is….an average QB who will rarely be the reason we win a game, but he won’t lose many for you either.
hmmmmm, i wonder who on this blog, you know some guy who owns a sofa and has a hulk as a pet, has been saying this all season long.
Tanny makes catches tougher than they should be all the time
You can argue that the ball was catchable by the receiver until your blue in the face
most throws are catchable if they are near the receiver
but a QB should not make the receivers job as tough as Tanny is making it for his receivers
lol, the shame of him. he should get a time out and have to stand in the corner for 45 minutes.
you can complain all you want, but i bet if tanny started throwing passes on time, there would be no drops, the oline will provide a great pocket and protection, miller will get 25+ rushes a game, grimes could cover someone, the d line could stop the run and the d would never give up more then 10 points.
MikeE,
Wilson seems to find a way to make plays behind a crappy OL. That’s a factor, but our OL is not playing horribly this year. People just keep saying it. It’s become a mantra….like Soliai sucks! Lol
ffr
I’ve been saying that about Tannehill for 3 years…so yeah…I’ve heard it before. Lol
Randy says:
December 15, 2015 at 10:10 pm
MikeE,
Wilson seems to find a way to make plays behind a crappy OL. That’s a factor, but our OL is not playing horribly this year.
randy,
here is the sad part of your comment. the state the fins are in. ‘not playing horrible this year’ cant even say about any part of this team something like ‘yeah but _________ is playing really well’. the discussion isnt about what is good, it is about who is playing worse and who should take more blame.
that my friend is pretty pathetic that us as fans have to be reduced to that type of discussion
Randy says:
December 15, 2015 at 10:13 pm
ffr
I’ve been saying that about Tannehill for 3 years…so yeah…I’ve heard it before. Lol
think you spent pretty much most of this year blaming him for everything. but like i just said, it is a sad state we are hear just trying to figure out who is the most to blame.
This team has no vision, no leadership, no clue. They don’t know how to use anyone to get the most out of them. The cheats may cheat, but they get more out of their players than anyone else. They can take yourins…
Mike posted an article above about the Fins not knowing how to use Lamar Miller. Who do they know how to use?
Josh McDaniel for new head coach.
They wont play for him either
I told you guys at Half time that we left to much shit on the field, Shit meaning points… I’d say at least 10 maybe 17. They played well in that half but this was no Texans game. Could have gotten away with not executing in the second had they done that…
Randy
I don’t even have to look to know I’m right, but there’s no shot that the Seahawks, who first of all feature a much better defense than we do, even in a down year for them, but I’d almost guarantee that the Seahawks didn’t have one game where they ran the ball less than 20 times. You can check it out, I could be wrong, but the Seahawks have a balanced attack, and a great defense.
And a qb.
Kidding- I don’t have the time or the energy to go back down that road today
LOL – He might be better than Tannehill, he probably is, but if you put Tannehill on that team, I’d bet he does a lot better there than he does here. Do you agree with that?
Yes- I don’t think anyone has ever said anything differently. But he would still overthrow wide open receivers and miss better options- that has always been the contention.
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Just looking at Russel Wilson’s stats. He threw the ball more than 30 times in a game 3 times this year, Game 1 (41), Game 10 (32) and Game 14 (32).
Ryan Tannehill 9 times, and 5 times over 40, and once over 50. There’s ya problem! It’s a joke! Our offense is in the hands of idiots!
Our team is in the hand of idiots! Top down!
Try
I can’t say that Tannehill would still be missing receivers. Wilson has had stability. A great HC, a great defense, and a great run game his entire career. It’s easier to play better when everyone else around you is.
We all have different ways of seeing things… I understand why you and others think that way. All I can say is no one has a perfect team around them, and he is not in the worst position or on the worst team- there are lots of mediocre teams. What elevates a mediocre team is the play and the leadership of the qb; the former is inconsistent even in a good pocket and the latter- well, I think even you have questioned it.
But I don’t put it all on him; Suh is the other high paid player on the team, and with that pay comes the responsibility of leading. I think even in turmoil at the coaching level you should be able to identify the leaders of the players- who do the Dolphins have?
It was a fun Florida trip but the game was basically what we’ve been seeing all year. Teams pass on us like we’re not there and I just don’t see any great passion as a team. Sure there are some productive players who make nice plays etc., but I see a broken team. I guess firing the core of the coaching staff can do that to a team.
Oh and by the way, the fans are lame when it comes to cheering the team on. I felt like I was alone many times trying to get loud for the defense and it just wasn’t there. Lost my voice a bit for no reason.
I blame our defensive failures on you. If you could have only cheered louder. LOL.
LOL @ Ken
This clueless out-of-towner gave more effort than the hometown crowd for sure. They really were lame. Yeah they cheer another Miami 1st down but have no idea how to get loud against the opponent’s offense. I was very disappointed.
That’s kind of a misnomer nobody from Florida is from Florida they’re all out of towners
Well if you live in Florida and you’re a Dolfan who cares where you were originally from? If you go to the game whether an out of towner or you live there, if you’re a fan cheer the team on. It’s not about your original origin. LOL
Tim
There are too many transplant fans in Miami. More than anything though, the team is just not a draw. I can’t blame fans for not wanting to shell out big bucks to watch this team. It wasn’t even just the passing game, they ran the ball well enough when they had to, and that’s something the Giants struggled with all season long. Ah, what’s the point, it’s just not good.
But if you go to the game as a fan, cheer the team on or why bother going? The Giants fans were louder and we’re not talking about a powerhouse team here, they were 5-7 too.
Maybe because they already had tickets, but they’re so tired of the team sucking, they don’t want to waste any energy. lol
They’re also legitimately fighting for a playoff spot, we were kind of out of it with a very very slim chance. Even if we had a chance, we all know what this team does in games like that.
Try
Just curious. Tannehill’s arrow was pointing up before this season. I think that’s undeniable. So he goes into this season with pretty much a lame duck HC, and a stubborn OC who won’t change what he’s doing, even if it’s wrong. The HC gets canned after 4 games, and the OC gets canned later. You don’t think that screws up the QB? I think it’s a direct correlation with Tannehill’s struggles. I hope I can prove you and all who don’t see it that way if/when we get a qualified HC and OC in here that will gladly work with Tannehill, and get him back in the right direction.
As I said, I understand the point of view you and others have on this. I can only say that the issues as I see them with the qb are the same ones he has had since he got here- ball placement, deep throws to open receivers, pocket awareness (which is better, but…). Some people see it, others say you can judge it with the rest of the crap around it. To that I say one of the ways you can assess someone’s effectiveness is how they respond when bullets start flying.
This does not mean he hasn’t improved on anything. More than the stuff I have been pointing out, I most want him to improve on his leadership/demeanor, as I know even great qb’s have shortcomings- Montana did not have a strong arm, Marino couldn’t run…
Mike E, I guess the lack of crowd participation just bummed me out to add to the season we’re having. It’s not like Phins fans weren’t there, they were, I was hanging with some in our area.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/12/15/nyg-mia-grades-eli-picks-apart-the-dolphins/
FWIW:
Suh graded out with a +6.2 (MONSTER!)
Mike E,
As bad as Miami’s situation has been this year; there are worse situations elsewhere.
How would you like to be an Atlanta fan right now? LOL
Mike E, there was a time in that game when the Giants fans I was with were not too confident. The turning point in the game was when we let them score right before the half to tie it 17-17. That’s exactly the type of thing our defense has done all year. That was fucking lame.
I knew we would have no answer for Manning to Beckham. So even when we were up I fully anticipated what happened.
The 84 yard TD was a bad job by our safeties. That play came right at us as we were sitting in that endzone. I saw Beckham split the defense and the ball spiraling right at us. Other than that, Beckham didn’t really kill us. He made some catches and scored that TD that was reviewed, but it was that play that blew the game open that I knew we wouldn’t come back from.
We also abandoned the running game once again. Miller was killing them and it was a close game all night. 12 rushes for 89 yards and 2 TDs. But let’s not get too crazy with him. We also didn’t get him the ball out of the backfield. SMH
Tim,
I just laugh when I read all the negativity on Twitter about how bad Miami’s coaches were against the Giants this and that.
I’m sitting here thinking, Tom Coughlin’s team needed a record night out of Manning to win by 1 score.
This was a typical performance by two teams that went into the game with the same W-L record. The only difference between the Giants and the rest of the NFC East teams the Dolphins faced this year, is that the Giants had more offense than them. All those things played out. The Dolphins moved the ball better against the Giants than the rest of the NFC East teams because well, the Giants D is the worst of all those teams. The Fins D? well, predictably the Giants moved it easier than the rest of the NFC East teams. BUT, if you remember the only loss to the NFC East team Miami had (COWBOYS), the EXACT SAME THING OCCURED TO PRETTY MUCH SEAL THE LOSS -> STUPID FUCKING PENALTIES TAKING FINS OUT OF SCORING RANGE OR PUTTING THE OTHER TEAM IN SCORING RANGE.
For some reason our offensive coaches still don’t get it regardless of who calls the plays.
Watch Lamar Miller go to Denver with Kubiak and rush for 1,500 and have 500 receiving and 15 TDs.
Ken,
It was frustrating to watch the plan against the Giants O given that the night before I had watched the crafty Bill Belichick completely take away Hopkins & JJ Watt by doubling both and daring Texans to beat his team with other targets. In classic fashion, the Texans 2nd/3rd options on both O & D failed to do anything (dropped passes by Texans O & no real push by other guys surrounding Watt on D).
I agree – hope he sells the team he is a total idiot
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Tim
I knew the Giants would get their points. I thought we should have gotten ours too. What happened with Miller I still don’t understand. He was killing it, and then they just pull the plug again. Whoever signs him is getting a stud RB that has had a 4 year career, with 2 seasons worth of carries, no major injuries.
A 25 year old RB too.
Yep! If I was him, unless I love it in Miami too much I’d go elsewhere.
Tim: Because the ticket prices are so high now only people with money can afford to sit in the lower bowl and those people tend not to give a damn. Same thing for Miami Heat games, the lower bowl is filled with rich people who are not vocal, it’s the upper bowl where you hear all the cheering. The stadium renovation while it will look nice, has made it unaffordable for many to attend games. If you sit in the club seats it’s even worse, half the time those people are inside watching the game at the bar or lounge.
I think that’s just about everywhere, except the hardcore fans in certain cities. It’s better to watch the game at home.
Gigi, yeah unfortunately that’s becoming the case everywhere. It’s all corporate now. 😦
Exactly
When we run the ball a lot we win; when we don’t we lose. First half we did great; 2nd half the coaches obviously were sleeping and pretty much Campbell and the whole staff screwed themselves with a horribly called 2nd half. I love Lamar Miller he has been sadly underused and I know wherever he goes he will be getting 1,000 yards plus a season.
He’s even better than that. He’s got a chance for 1,000 this year when he should be shooting for 1,500 right now. The guys (Giants fans) I was watching the game with were super impressed with him. I said don’t worry, we’ll stop using him soon and the coaches didn’t disappoint. 😦
Tim — where were your seats?
And what percentage of the stadium was Blue. Keep in mind that the Giants only have a game every six years or so at Sunlife and there are a whole lot of NYC transplants. Yets are here every year.
302 almost in the clouds. LOL
There was a good Giants crowd throughout, saw them at the hotel, in the airport, out and about and at the game. Still the stadium was dead for the Phins.
Tim — that is sorta how it works here. The opposing fans say, “lets go to an out of game this year”…….and surprise they pick Miami. Even worse when there are a whole lot of Giants fan transplants who just drive to the game.
And I know from how the tix prices went that the Giants and Cowboys games were most in demand this year. Way it is, but then come down here and you are in South Florida as well. Imagine if you rooted for Cleveland or Detroit.
GG,
I think there’s no way Ross sells the team. He just put forth an investment in the stadium and he, through the Related Group which Ross founded, has a real footing in the local Miami economy. His butt buddy, Jorge Perez is a founder of the Related Group’s business in Florida. Both went to U of Michigan which is probably what brought them together in the first place along with other common interests.
Hoping for Ross to sell the team is like wishing to meet God here on earth and it happens. LOL
LOL.
LOL @ Butt Buddy!! I wish I knew the answer but until he cleans house we will have the same issues. Let’s say we get a new coaching staff and they think differently than the GMs and personnel we have now…oh whatever it is pointless. What is so frustrating is at times the team plays well then shits itself the rest of the way. The defense is pure ca ca, except for Suh Reshad and maybe OV (he is a bonehead and disappears in many games then wakes up for a few).
Sucks about the Miller situation but that’s an expendable position in the NFL.
Generally yes it is these days…but the exception is guys like AP, Charles, and what Miller is becoming. A great all around back that can score from anywhere on the field.
I say resign him. Money better spent than has been spent on Suh accordingly.
Tim, sorry you didn’t get to experience a win like I did when I was there for the Fest.
I still had a great time. I didn’t leave too bummed out because of the season we’re having. I’ve already accepted it so I’m not too emotional about it. But that sucks! 😦
Unless there’s promise here with a legit HC and staff, I would think Lamar will take his show elsewhere, unless of course he likes being underused and under appreciated
There will be coaching changes before FA starts. So hopefully the new HC or OC lets him know that he will get far more action under their watch & convince him to stay.
Giants last played in Miami in 1996 and I had friends and family from NY and FL at the game Monday who are Giants fans.
http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/miami-dolphins/teamvsteam?opp=21
Yea I thought i heard on the broadcast that it was 19 years since the Giants last played at Miami.
Explains why Giants fans were so into it. But hey — lots of Ravens fans for that game too……and they have been here like three of the last four years. People do like to come to Miami.
Mike E,
People follow the money, that’s their only guiding force 🙂 I don’t blame them as the NFL game is a short career, especially for RB.
The Fins might get lucky in that teams aren’t really paying up big $ for RB unless your name is Chip Kelly.
No doubt the $$$ always talks, the rest is secondary
But we don’t have a secondary Mike!
LOL GDP – No we do not!
“People follow the money, that’s their only guiding force”
Al — I wouldn’t go that far, but it certainly will be for Miller when looking for his 2nd contract. Once guys have that FU money in the bank and are looking for where they want to end their career other considerations come into play. Not like Peyton went to Denver cause they were offering the most cash.
Cause…they….have….great….chick-enparm
LOL — but we are talking Magic Gumby……….he might have taught the guy there how to make it great. 🙂
What’s up sadness?
Hey throwback, wazzup?
My age unfortunately.
LOL, age, blood pressure, & taxes.
This team needs a proven HC/regime who can come in create a new culture and hold every player accountable. The way we’ve been doing it has not worked.
Problem is that coaching is so watered down that those chances are slim.
Not many of those around looking for work. just failed coaches or newbies that ya hope can become that next great guy that will do all the above.
Campbell has tried the new culture route. The problem is we need new players and a new culture.
New talent at many spots is a given.
Tim Knight says:
December 16, 2015 at 11:45 am (Edit)
The 84 yard TD was a bad job by our safeties. That play came right at us as we were sitting in that endzone. I saw Beckham split the defense and the ball spiraling right at us. Other than that, Beckham didn’t really kill us. He made some catches and scored that TD that was reviewed, but it was that play that blew the game open that I knew we wouldn’t come back from.
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Beckham killed us Tim. He not only caught the 84 yarder but he had a 50 yarder at the end of the 1st half that set up the score that tied it up at the end of the half. He had another crucial PI call on Grimes that help set up another TD. We had no answer for him all night.
Oh okay, I thought we were okay heading into the half and headed out to the bathroom and missed that’s how they scored so quickly. I only caught them tie it up. So he basically made 3 plays albeit big plays including the 6 yard TD getting his feet in. Live he looked out. The replay showed he was in. He’s a fantastic player.
By the way our coverage overall stinks.
There are coaches available or could become available with some proven success. I’m not saying legendary coaches. LOL
Fins will have flexibility in the cap to do a few things so I’m not overly concerned about what will happen with Miller/OV at moment.
Here are all the Dolphins players that can save more than a $1 in cap savings in the 2016 capby being cut
Notice I make ZERO mention on CUTS; I’m just listing the HIGHEST savings value of ALL PLAYERS under contract through 2016.
Cam Wake = 8.40m
Quinton Coples = 7.75m
Jordan Cameron = 7.50m
Brent Grimes = 6.50m
Reshad Jones = 6.30m
Mike Pouncey = 6.30m
Branden Albert = 5.05m
Greg Jennings = 4.00m
Koa Misi = 3.72m
Dion Jordan = 3.21m
Earl Mitchell = 2.50m
Brice McCain = 2.50m
Jason Fox = 1.38m
John Denney = 1.12m
Jamar Taylor = 0.90m
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Even if you keep Grimes/Jones/Pouncey/Albert/Misi from this list above and cut EVERYONE else, the Dolphins will save $39.25 mill off the contracts of Wake/Coples/Cameron/Jennings/Jordan/Mitchell/McCain/Fox/Denney/Taylor.
I’d re-sign Miller over OV.
Al in MIA says:
December 16, 2015 at 11:43 am (Edit)
Ken,
It was frustrating to watch the plan against the Giants O given that the night before I had watched the crafty Bill Belichick completely take away Hopkins & JJ Watt by doubling both and daring Texans to beat his team with other targets. In classic fashion, the Texans 2nd/3rd options on both O & D failed to do anything (dropped passes by Texans O & no real push by other guys surrounding Watt on D).
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Frustrating indeed. I don’t know if we could have taken Beckham out of the game. He is the best WR in football right now but it’s not like we even tried. My hope was that we could get pressure on Manning so he would not have time to go deep but our pass rush was anemic.
If you want JUST the actual DEAD money hit, here’s the list on same players above
Cam Wake = 1.40m
Quinton Coples = 0
Jordan Cameron = 2.00m
Brent Grimes = 3.00m
Reshad Jones = 1.91m
Mike Pouncey = 4.00m
Branden Albert = 5.10m
Greg Jennings = 1.50m
Koa Misi = 1.16m
Dion Jordan = 2.99m
Earl Mitchell = 1.00m
Brice McCain = 1.00m
Jason Fox = 0.16m
John Denney = 0.10m
Jamar Taylor = 0.25m