By Dr. Bruce Banner
So Hulk watch Dolphins play Giants on Monday Night Football. Hulk no expect Dolphins to win game because Giants have a 2 time Super Bowl MVP quarterback and best wide receiver in football. Sure enough that combination was more than enough to overwhelm putrid defense. But at least Hulk watch Dolphins offense led by Ryan Tannehill play some good ball in game. Hulk watch Tannehill convert many third and long situations. Hulk watch Tannehill throw deep ball touchdown to Kenny Stills in stride. Hulk watch Tannehill run and make plays with his legs. Then of course Hulk watch late in game on 3rd and long Tannehill miss Jarvis Landry. Hulk sad he miss but Hulk think Tannehill play good game and gave team chance to win, especially considering all the drops including drop by Stone Hands Sims that was likely a touchdown. So Hulk think well at least we saw development in our quarterback.
So Hulk not happy with loss but at least Hulk think offense and quarterback showed something then Hulk come on this site. The dialogue went something like this:
Tannehill missed Landry, he stinks. He is the reason why we lost. He is the reason why we are not going to the playoffs. The defense gave up 31 points – blame Tannehill. Manning completed almost 90 percent of his passes – blame Tannehill. Beckham was wide open all night – blame Tannehill. The Giants ran out the ball for the final five minutes of the game – blame Tannehill. Global warming – blame Tannehill. The rise of Isis – blame Tannehill. My wife is cheating on me – blame Tannehill. Santa Claus is not real – blame Tannehill.
Hulk read all this and he start to get angry. Hulk gets it. Tannehill’s play is not above criticism. He makes some bad plays and has had some bad games at times this year. But Hulk no get how everyone see Tannehill as reason why team lost this week or why team is struggling. Tannehill no let Manning complete all but 4 passes. Tannehill is not 32nd ranked run defense in league. Tannehill not responsible for numerous false start and holding penalties. Tannehill no drop 7 passes. Yet everyone blame Tannehill as sole reason why team is losing. Instead Hulk see a quarterback who has thrown 2 times as many touchdowns as interceptions. Who has not missed a start now into his 4th season and that is despite being sacked more than any other quarterback over the last 4 seasons behind horrible offensive line. Hulk see a quarterback who has now 4 consecutive years over 3,000 yards and is now likely on pace for 2 consecutive seasons over 4,000 yards. Hulk see a quarterback who does this all despite poor coaching, multiple offensive coordinators over the 4 years, an interim rookie head coach who has never been a coordinator and an offensive coordinator who has never called a play until 2 weeks ago. So Hulk get angry when he sees so many here not appreciate that one piece we don’t have to go replace is the quarterback. Hulk make you bet that Rex Ryan would trade his wife’s right foot for Tannehill as starting quarterback of Bills instead of Tyrod Taylor. So Hulk say fix what is wrong with team – the offensive and defensive lines. Oh and fix linebacker too. Don’t forget to fix secondary that could no cover anyone. Hulk says fix those positions before you go fixing quarterback and Hulk say appreciate Tannehill or Hulk smash.
If Ryan Tannehill were a Superhero:
Finsmob Unleashed 
Morning Update
DOLPHINS-CHARGERS
Howie 27-24 MIA
Mike 35-20 SD
Toba 38-10 MIA
GO PHINS!!!
Howie
20 – 10 miami
Pig Hulk like Hulk
But Pig Hulk think a hulk wrong
Pig Hulk think if Ryan Tannehill and Hulk on same avenger team
And have to save the Earth
Then Earth die and Hulk get blamed for it
But super Tannehill has good stats
He does have great stats.
O’Howie,
I actually believe the Dolphins will win this game- no particular reason, just do.
24-14 M ediocrity I nstills A narchy
Well done Hulk. I don’t think even the Tanne-haters think EVERYTHING is his fault, but when he can’t do any kind of good in the 4th QTR in too many games, they will pounce on that, and rightfully so. He’s got to fix that. I think that’s one criticism that has some weight to it. He can play well all game, but when it comes to winning the game, he too often disappears. It’s not ALL his fault, because we have no balance in our offense, but it would be nice to see once in a while.
Hater? HATER?
Sir- we are no haters. To a person, everyone on this board who has ever said something that elicited a response from the Tanneshills (which pretty much covers ANYTHING said about Tannehill that could even be remotely construed as not positive) has said they want him to succeed- they hope he is successful. No, we are no “haters”- we are, as our old friend, Mr. Conspiracy Theory himself would say, REALISTS.
Eh, if you can call some Tanneshills, you don’t get to choose what you’re called. nah-nah-na-nah-nah!
You have besmirched my good name. The gauntlet has been thrown- 🔫’S @ 🌄!
I hope you don’t think I’m Home. I’m not.
HOWIE I can’t see anything really changing…31 – 17 SD
I don’t care if we beat SD. They suck we suck, we all suck. I just hope that some of our young guys show some promise. I wouldn’t mind having a top 10 pick. It will be more attractive to the new regime.
There’s nothing worse than a hater in denial. Lol
I’ve never been to Africa, so…
How bout Egypt?
Duh! Egypt is in Africa, although a small part is in Asia, not positive
Gotta have 2 sides, so we have the Tanneshills vs Tannehaters. It’s just easier to identify one another. I’m on both sides really. I’m not sure he’s the guy, but I do believe he can be, that much I say with conviction. We haven’t done a lot of things right with this team during his tenure, but if we ever get it right with the coaches and the talent influx, I think he can be much better.
I think if he could place the ball better it would make the receivers look better, so…
Nah, not today. This gets old for everyone. And you know I have said from the beginning that the problem this team has is systemic- it can’t be fixed until ownership makes the changes necessary at the very top.
Once Jake Scott left the franchise went downhill.
I once had a brief email conversation with Jim Mandich. It was right after my mothers’ husband died. I emailed Jim to let him know a fan of Scott and his had passed away, and that he always told us stories about being in Miami in the late 60’s and early 70’s, and about a bar that he would go to that lots of Dolphins players would frequent, and that he eventually befriended some of them and selling them cars, including Jake and Jim. The only thing he said to me in response was something along the lines of “Jake was my best buddy” and “I miss him”.
I probably should have said exchange, as you can see it wasn’t much of a conversation- lol.
Ken, I still get a kick out of you writing in Hulk speak. LOL
Mike, most of Egypt is in Africa but part of it is in Asia.
Thanks, that’s what I thought. I think most of Israel is in Asia
Me too. I imagine the voice in my head lol
I try not to get too caught up in the RT talk but some perspective in the data.
Ryan Tannehill’s QB rating right now is 88.0
Last year Cam Newton’s rating was 82.1. This is his first year in the 90s
If I may speak for Son, it’s not about stats or QB rating, it’s about winning games. 🙂
People see what they want it see. It’s one of the reasons I don’t get sucked into the discussions around here. Just know that Jake Scott rules all in Dolphin land and everything else is just trivial.
Nice Hulkin article Ken.
Mike E. says:
December 18, 2015 at 8:33 am (Edit)
Gotta have 2 sides, so we have the Tanneshills vs Tannehaters. It’s just easier to identify one another. I’m on both sides really. I’m not sure he’s the guy, but I do believe he can be, that much I say with conviction. We haven’t done a lot of things right with this team during his tenure, but if we ever get it right with the coaches and the talent influx, I think he can be much better.
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If we have two sides we get to pick the opposition’s name
and I am calling you guys the Tannehill Shuffle Dancers
Since every time some one criticizes Tanny the misdirection starts and you guys do a little two step like talk about how bad the OL or WRs are, or you guys do the more frustrating technique and twist some one’s comment to the extreme like suggesting that if some one criticizes Tanny it means we blame him for every loss or problem on the team
If Bat’s around I want his input on the name, because he is the resident wordsmith
Also, just for the record
I think Tannehill might be a very good QB in time
I don’t want to replace him in 2016, maybe 2017 if he doesn’t improve next season
I just happen to think he is bad now and people are shifting blame to other parts of the team to protect him
Bad just isn’t the right word. He’s far from bad, but that’s how this gets started. lol
The thing is
I think he is bad now or at least below average
Not Marc Sanchez or Cha Henne bad
He’s pretty much average as a lot of people admit
maybe even good at times
but when we need him to be good
in a clutch situation
he is awful
and that is what pushes him from just average to bad
Why do people who are not overly critical of Tannehill have to have a label? The critical types always feel like they’re just telling it like it is and anyone who doesn’t align with that thinking gets some kind of label/name. Yet the critical types cry foul and play victim when someone has an opposing view. That’s always how it goes down on these blogs.
We don’t have to label anyone
Mike E suggested it
I’m having fun with it
There is no way I would agree to a less a phrase like Tannehills for people that defend Tannehill
There is a level of denial and misdirection that is out there to defend Tannehill from any criticism
for the record I think you are more neutral/realistic than anything else despite having a reputation for patience
if I want to criticize Tannehill for his play
I am gonna do it
and I assume if people are going to criticize everything else (which I do to) they are going to do it
But the level of deflection and misdirection when it comes to Tannehill is comical
and there are people who post here and spend the majority of there posts mocking other people’s opinion specifically about Tanny which is defending of Tannehill.
I hope to see much of Lippett on Sunday :).
This draft class seems like it will be nice as it may produce 4-5 starters:
DeVante Parker, Bobby McCain, Jordan Phillips, Jay Ajayi, Jamil Douglas.
Lippett is going to get snaps this week apparently with the injuries mounting but really the only draft pick that isn’t on the active roster is FS Cedric Thompson but he’s been on the Practice squad all season
Piggy
Look at Blake Bortles. Tannehill is just behind Bortles, who for all intents and purposes is having a good season. Bortles has more TD’s, but he has 2 really good WR’s to throw to. We have Landry, who is very good, but he doesn’t get down the field well, or at least we rarely use him that way, and there’s Stills, who disappears, and Cameron who has been a disappointment. Parker is just getting started, but right now, he’s not nearly good as Allen Robinson or Allen Hurns. Both of those guys make great plays every week. maybe next year, we’ll have that
Not coincidentally, the Jags are also 508, despite Bortles throwing 30 TD’s. Thing is, both of our defenses have been prone to being awful, so even the magic 30 TD’s that everyone talks about here isn’t the answer.
Oops, Jags are 5-8
We have good receivers
Stills was an up and coming receiver for New Orleans but in Miami he is trash
I wonder why
Parker is barely on the filed and is completely ignored by Tanny when he is
Tanny doesn’t see the field well at all and ignores open receivers
Parker could either be better than both Robinson and Hurns and you would never know it
I’ve see him open a bunch of times since he has started and he is ignored
He has had 2 TDs in 3 starts
That is actually pretty good
He is making the best of his opportunities
he is simply not getting those chances
I would take Landry any day of the week over every on Jacksonville’s team
Our receivers and our TEs are fine
our QB is an amateur and has no idea how to use them and exploit weaknesses
Bortles did not have to work on his long ball last season
he wasn’t afraid to use it right out of the gate
Our QB spends an offseason working on it
and to his credit it has improved
now his midrange game sucks
Piggy
If Tannehill is average to bad, what would you say about every other unit on our team? Rank each unit, WR’s, TE’s, RB’s, D-line, LB’s, CB’s and S’s.
WR – good with potential to be great if the QB was better
TE – average as receivers but underutilized, Sims is a very good run blocker but a shitty receiver
RBs – good with potential to be great if the playcalling was better
OL – bad
DL – I think its the toughest unit to evaluate. They bring pretty good pressure. But they have very costly breakdowns. I say average, I think the back 7 (except Jones) is the bigger problem on defense
LBs – worse than Tanny. basically shit. played better recently but not reliabe to continue
CBs – went to average to bad during the season
S – one is probowl the other half (whever it is below average). this combo might work if there weren’t so many other holes
Piggy, I don’t care what anyone says about Tannehill. What I find comical is when our defense allows over 400 yards and 30+ points and the focus is on Tannehill. You want bad, allowing that TD at the end of the half in less than 2 minutes is as bad as it gets. That was the turning point in the game. It gave the Giants a ton of confidence heading into the half and we went in on a negative. Football is a game of momentum. And even though Tannehill hit Stills on a 47 yard TD to open the 3rd quarter, the defense gave up another TD right after that. This team is horrible at complimentary football. Every player on the roster is responsible for that. Even Suh.
Its not blaming Tannehill to criticize Tannehill
and its certainly not praising the defense
The defense is bad and played bad
and I’ve spent plenty of post criticizing the LBS and now the DBs
I’ve made a point of saying draft defense this offseason as well
I have never argued that the defense is good
I have argued that Tannehill deserves criticism and is bad
when you criticize the defense
no one says – “but Tannehill was awful, stop blaming the defense”
But on the other hand when you criticize Tannehill
some one is sure to say “but the defense was awful”
There are two different standards for the player/unit
and the people that do the Tannehill Shuffle place Tannehill above criticism by redirecting criticism elsewhere or worse just mocking the criticism
The defense playing bad does not relieve Tanny of criticism
but to some people I guess sit does
Fair enough but Tannehill didn’t play poorly Monday night, the defense did. Not scoring in the 4th quarter doesn’t mean bad, sometimes that’s how games go. What we did wrong in the 2nd half was take Lamar Miller out of the game. I really have no idea what that’s all about. Miller was dominating in the 1st half. We do it all the time and it never makes any sense. When we keep feeding Miller we win. When we abandon that and pass over 40 times we lose.
Piggy
So it’s all Tannehill, and not this fucked up offense? That’s what pisses me off, is the total disregard to what we do here. That’s not all on Tannehill, it just isn’t.
Piggy
Stills had 3 TD’s last season. Star? C’mon now
Sorry, up and coming. He’s like Ted Ginn. He’ll never make a tough catch, but he can get open deep, otherwise, he’s not much. That’s what I see.
With 931 yards!!!
but I guess that doesn’t help an offense
In his rookie year he had 5 TDs and a 20 yard per catch average
That is a nice piece to have on an offense
Mike E. says:
December 18, 2015 at 10:04 am (Edit)
Piggy
So it’s all Tannehill, and not this fucked up offense? That’s what pisses me off, is the total disregard to what we do here. That’s not all on Tannehill, it just isn’t.
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Who said its “all Tannehill”
that is classic misdirection Mike
I’m not even going to address it
when you are done Shuffling we can discuss Tannheill
It’s not misdirection. You say Tannehill is bad. Why did he do better each and every season, but now he’s taken a slight step back? Our offense is awful. We have no balance, we’re predictable, and we’re on our 3rd coordinator
Just remember the cavalcade of Qb’s that the Phins & us fans went thru post Marino, then you’ll likely appreciate Tannehill much more and want to see a team built around him like other successful QB’s on solidly built teams that you yearn for.
Drew Brees sucks & can’t win games.
Tim Knight says:
December 18, 2015 at 10:14 am (Edit)
Fair enough but Tannehill didn’t play poorly Monday night, the defense did. Not scoring in the 4th quarter doesn’t mean bad, sometimes that’s how games go. What we did wrong in the 2nd half was take Lamar Miller out of the game. I really have no idea what that’s all about. Miller was dominating in the 1st half. We do it all the time and it never makes any sense. When we keep feeding Miller we win. When we abandon that and pass over 40 times we lose.
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He played well in the first half
Miller really helped him
but Tanyy played well
He played pretty poorly in the 4th qtr
and that has been a trend with Tanny
Guys dropped passes too. That makes the QB look worse. The defense never made a play.
Tannehill not making a clutch play in the 4th quarter doesn’t mean he played poorly, it just means he wasn’t special and that’s what people are hoping for. But nobody else made a special play either. Miller probably would have but we decided that wasn’t the way to go.
Mike E, Stills is much tougher and better than Ginn. Landry and Parker are going to be the two go-to-guys with Stills providing a nice speed threat.
I haven’t seen that, but when I do, I’ll give him credit for it.
I will oink with you guys later
I have to do some work today
Go shuffle some papers will ya! 😉
Piggy
Know you’re gone, but discussing why the QB is struggling is part of the discussion. I do believe the playcalling and offensive scheme has an effect on how the QB operates. That’s what I was trying to point out
Same goes for defense. Remember Suh early on was invisible & the whole DL had no 1 sack for several games. I kept harping scheme, coordinators, play calling and got laughed at some….lol
What changed scheme wise? We’re running the same scheme we always did.
Yes, but some things were changed after Suh went on his protest and Coyle got fired. Same with offense. You can change up some ways you approach said scheme, but in midseason it’s too complicated to totally change schemes, hence the up & down results we’re seeing.
Piggy,
Tanneshills is a good name- Bat himself has even used it. Not that I have a vested interest in it’s continued use or anything… lol.
But yes, I too see the way SOME of his defenders support him is with misdirection- it is the part that I find “comical”. Or quoting some statistical anomaly as proof he is as good as or not as bad as others.
If we can’t critique Tanne because the rest of the team is bad, then we can’t critique anyone.
Tim
We have a new guy calling the plays now. We’re right in the game, and we go 5 wide empty backfield after our RB ran for 70 yards and 2 long TD’s in the 1st half. I know Lazor did this too (which is baffling). 2 years ago we had Sherman and his offense. I guess the general design is the same, but we’re not making the right adjustments.
Ah, meant to say we can’t pass protect, and we go 5 wide empty backfield.
It’s so baffling I have nothing more I can say about it. I hope whoever our HC is he’s big on committing to the run whether Miller remains here or not.
GD, all of a sudden we need edge rushers, we’ve always needed a playmaking LB, and we also need more competition and another playmaking DB to go along with Jones. Hopefully Vigil and Hewitt continue to develop and provide depth and maybe compete for a starting spot. But we need to add at least 3 defenders – edge rusher, LB and DB to improve this defense.
I don’t see us paying Vernon $8-10M per but some teams might. He’d be a good option for a 3-4 team at OLB so he might have more suitors. Who knows about Fuckface. Fede and Shelby are not pure edge rushers and Wake likely won’t be the same. So I’d say priority #1 is edge rusher because if you don’t get after the passer it doesn’t matter who’s out there in coverage.
Agreed on pass rusher. I thought we’d see a dominating DL built to get after Brady the way that the Giants did in 2 super bowl wins. But that hasn’t happened.
Same thing playing the Giants last week. Eli was picking us apart & not only did we not get to him, but we kept rushing just 4 mostly. I’m screaming at the TV, friggin send a blitzer for God’s sake. They blitzed Tanny plenty and you saw the end result.
Tim
I also think it’s funny that Piggy says things like Tannehill did well in the first half because Miller helped him? WTF is that? That’s football. When something works well, it helps other things to work well. And, contrarily, when you stop doing that thing, or it doesn’t work, then the other things don’t work as well either. This is the season in a nutshell.
The running game never helped Joe Montana. LOL
Take away Russell Wilson’s RB’s and see how well he does. Take away his defense too.
So we signed Damontre Moore after he was waived by the Giants. He’s an edge rusher but he’s got to clean up some parts of his game and mature. We also added Coples who is more of an edge setter than pure pass rusher. So in our 4-3 moving forward I can see Coples playing DE on early downs and Moore coming in on passing downs with Coples possibly playing inside on passing downs as well. Fede provides depth, not sure if Shelby who will be a FA in the offseason will be back and I don’t think Vernon will be. So it’s Coples, Fede, Moore and hopefully Wake (not confident) along with possibly Fuckface in the mix at DE. I still think we need to add another edge rusher.
I think Wake is over. I don’t think he’ll be good enough to justify his salary. Unless we cut him and re-sign him to a lower contract.
Agreed. I think a lot of cuts are coming including Grimes, Jennings, Cameron, Moore, possibly Misi, and then Shelby and Delmas will also come off the books.
I swear that I’m not even a Tanneshill. I have picked on him when I thought it was deserving,but I think Tannehill can be better with proper coaching and a balanced offense. I’m not convinced he’s 4th quarter comeback star, because I haven’t seen him do that, but that’s not the only criteria I judge a QB on.
I think he’d be better in an offense that uses more pro sets, utilizing bootlegs, waggles and roll-outs, a commitment to the run game and setting up play-action. He’s not a 40+ pass out of shotgun QB to me. He’d be better in a 30 rush/30 pass type offense. I hope whoever our HC is we go in that direction. I believe Campbell would so if we go with another HC I hope he will too. I hate this offense we run. I never want to see it again.
Tim, we will need to draft a DE edge rusher early & a good ILB with blitzing ability.
Agreed. I’d take a LB who excels in coverage over blitzing though. Jenkins is actually a good blitzing LB but he’s playing on a bad ankle that past few weeks. We need to replace Sheppard in the lineup at the least.
“..like headless children trying on hats..”
Enjoy the holiday.
I would love for Vernon to stop committing stupid penalties if he’s going to stay.
I’d like him back but I think the market will be high for him and we all know he’s not a game changer, he’s solid.
Build a bad ass defense & we could win a championship with Tanny.
Ravens did it with Dilfer.
Colts did it with Peyton. 😉
Finally after many years of failed defenses that couldn’t get him to ring dance.
A bad ass defense starts with a bad ass pass rush.
I think both Cameron’s are gone next year. I think there’s a chance we re-sign Vernon. We have to keep someone. I don’t think we should count on Damontre Moore.
This cracks me up.
LOL – You’ve posted this before, right?
Yes. I love funny people stuff.
Ouch!
Tim
BTW – I agree with your 11:37AM post
https://twitter.com/HoldMyBeerGif/status/672944284698562560
LOL
Did someone say Super Bowl QB? 🙂
I think our DL is effective but the LB really do make them look terrible.
The edge rush is questionable.
Ah remember when people said Aaron Donald was too small for NFL DT?
Wish we had the Rams defense. They got some nice pieces and Quinn had been on IR.
He’s an excellent pass rusher but he and that entire defense can get run on.
In case you missed this yesterday….. Omar was trying to break down the coaches film and spew BS across the net and got owned by one of the PFF employees
LOL
sb7mvp says:
December 18, 2015 at 12:14 pm
Colts did it with Peyton. 😉
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Against Rex Grossman whoopie.
Donald is a great player, would love to have him here, but we have a ton of other needs too.
When your team has a bunch of ducks, you certainly don’t want to add a Donald
LOL – Well done
I saw Suh getting double teamed quite often in the MNF game. It looked like Suh gave up on a lot of plays, couldn’t fight the constant double and even triple teams sometimes.
He got a huge rating from PFF… +6.2 ..even if they gave him the benefit of the doubt on some plays, +6.2 on their scale is a monster rating. All we saw on TV was the camera shots of him exhausted but that doesn’t mean while he was on the field he was giving up plays.
When watching a game, it’s hard to see every player, but I saw him out of most plays.
Furthermore, I don’t care what PFF says anyway. lol
I literally LOL @ John Gruden when he said, Suh’s just standing around watching the game, he’s got to make a play NOW!
That was pretty funny
I saw Suh, looked like he blew alot of plays up but man he was gassed half way through the 3rd…
THIS SHIT HAS GOT TO END!
Shula wouldnt stand for it
TEAR DOWN THE BUBBLE!
They probably need to rest Suh a little better during the game
I mean thats pretty sad when these Northern teams come in and wear us down in December when our guys have probably had since May to get acclimated to this
Al in MIA says:
December 18, 2015 at 1:19 pm (Edit)
I think our DL is effective but the LB really do make them look terrible.
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Tim Knight says:
December 18, 2015 at 1:21 pm (Edit)
The edge rush is questionable.
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It doesn’t help that Cam Wake is on IR
and Jordan is a fuckface
If you keep Vernon
there is a chance that the edge looks much better in 2016
But I would not mind drafting a DE in rounds 1-3 next season
If you want to draft exclusively defense
we might be able to get good players by doing something like
1. DB
2. DE
3. LB
4. LB
5. LB/DB
I don’t think it would be crazy to focus the draft on defense
I don’t either because I think we should add a young up and coming guard who’s proven himself but isn’t going to break the bank. We have enough developmental guards. We need a playmaker at every phase of the defense, edge rusher, LB and DB.
Mike Francesa was just talking about the game and he said Miller was killing the Giants and they were running the ball well and went away from it for no reason and then Tanny to Landry was the offense as if it was Landry vs. Beckham.
I’ve always liked Tanneholics. People who get “drunk” on the Tannehill dream and ignore the reality. I think he’s probably somewhere between the 12-18th best QB in the league. So, some times he’ll look good, but sometimes he’ll look bad. That’s what you get with an inconsistent, average QB. I never hate any player…just don’t think that way about entertainment. But, I’d be comfortable with a doubter handle. I do doubt his ability to lead a team and be the difference between wins and loses….at least a handful of times a year. If he’s something more than just another guy, I sure haven’t seen it in 4 years. So yeah….I doubt his ability to be a championship QB. Again, it’s already been 4 years. We sometimes talk about this guy like he’s a rookie.
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And, none of that means I’m not completely aware of all the other shortcomings of this team/organization. But, QB is undeniably the biggest, most important cog in the organization. Your team’s fortunes are largely ordicated on what sort of QB you have.
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Tannehill is the only player that his fans constantly apply the “yeah but…” argument with. Nobody else gets the excuses he gets. Everyone else seems to just be expected to do their jobs perfectly, so Tannehill can flourish. The OL sucks….yeah but….they have a QB who struggles in the pocket and getting rid of the ball on time. The WRs suck…yeah but they have a QB that doesn’t have great ball placement on throws over 5 yards, and he often doesn’t throw it to open guys and forces it into his favorite receiver. The OC sucks…yeah but, maybe they were designing an offense they felt their limited QB could handle and limited his options because he has shown in practice or the classroom that he can’t handle certain things…lots of quick, short passes and WR screens, for instance. The HC sucked….yeah but, ask any player and they’ll tell you that once on the field the HC isn’t the leader anymore. It’s a player ON the field. It has to come from a player, and like it or not that is the QB in today’s NFL offense.
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There, there’s tomorrow’s article! Lol
I’ve said a bunch of times I don’t think Tanny is a 40+ shotgun pocket passer and we keep trying to make him one to no avail. Others feel that way to. It’s not an excuse, it’s who some of us think he is and a different system would benefit his skill set better.
I’ve also been saying he should be in a more traditional WCO since he was drafted so I haven’t waned from that. 😉
Howie, Shula stood for a lot of wearing down on defense for years in the mid and late 80s.
Once Jake Scott left there was much he could do.
LOL
And, if you look at the stats and standings…blah….our OL has actually improved at what they do over last year, and Tannehill has gotten worse. So, who’s really “at fault” for our offensive performance this year? The OL improved, QB performance did not….and the OL has had to deal with all sorts of problems this year and still improved their performance.
The OL runs the ball well but still suck in pass pro. Not sure what you’re watching.
This guy is a piece of shit and karma got his sorry ass.
http://news.yahoo.com/turing-ceo-martin-shkreli-custody-securities-probe-133722669–finance.html
Welcome to the evil world of big pharma.
Well he was a rogue.
In that case, but there are so many cases of big pharma abuses, pay offs, collusions, dangerous drugs, and potential cures swept under the rug. Huge money at play in that corrupt world.
Drafting a lot of defensive needs is all in good, but somehow we need to squeeze in a contingency for Albert’s health history, age, and contract.
Yes not all picks should be defense. Some depth at tackle who eventually can start would be good.
Tim,
Yes, I agree. Our pass pro isn’t great, but it isn’t as bad as some folks like to act. We’re 23rd in the league in sacks allowed, if I’m reading the stats right. Our QB ranks worse than that at what he does. So, does Tannehill “suck” then too? Lol
Tanny isn’t as bad as some folks like to think.
Tannehill isn’t rated worse than 23rd, but he’d probably be rated higher if the O-line was better.
Man, you are zealous towards Tannehill. LOL
It’s not just sacks, he gets hit after just about every throw. The OL also struggles the most on key downs but that always gets put on RT.
To me this season has been a bad year for entire org top to bottom.
I too think we need to go after a young linebacker to help solidify this defense. I don’t really even care if he’s good at covering or run stuffing….just find a leader who can bring some accountability and stability to this defense. We also need a FS who can call defensive alignments and run our back end. We haven’t had that in a very long time.
Randy is doing some A+ trolling. Shine on you crazy diamond.
gdp
All I’ve ever heard folks say is that Tannehill is an average QB. Me included. Not sure what you’re referring to.
Piggy said he was bad
SB
Ross said he’s going to name the Sun Shade Canopy the Jake Scott Sun Shade Canopy, because no one could cover like Jake Scott
I doubt it. They couldn’t even respect the man’s jersey number.
MikeE,
I believe he’s 31st in QB rating. Again, I assume i’m reading the stats correctly.
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And, why doesn’t anybody ever mention how Tannehill negatively affects his OL and their performance? It’s only always the other way around. Tannrhill takes a bunch of sacks he shouldn’t each year, and he makes his OL look worse than they are. I’ve seen him take half a dozen at least this year that were his fault. Why doesn’t it ever go both ways?
You mention it all the time, no reason for anyone else to repeat it. LOL
Look at some of the players listed. Some are RB’s, WR’s, and some are QB’s who’ve thrown less than 200 passes. None of that counts.
Also the separation in QB ratings are pct. points and can flip flop after one week.
Oh, I didn’t see piggy’s post. But, I’m guessing he said he was bad at something specific and not overall. Maybe I’m wrong. Sorry, gdp! Lol
Merry Christmas Randy. Maybe Santa will bring you a new QB like the previous 16-17 QB’s Miami had before Tannehill.
Well, if you take away the sacks Tannehill has taken himself this season, our OL stats would look much better too. But, I realize that doesn’t matter to some.
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Anyway, I guess I’m being a troll for pointing out a different point of view. My lunch is over, so I’ll leave you fellas to braid Tannehill’s hair and paint his nails a pretty fuschia! Lol
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Go Dolphins!
If Tanny didn’t take any sacks he’d be throwing the ball away 25x a game with all the jail breaks coming his way due to the non-protection.
Anywho, just having fun with ya Randy. Enjoy your lunch break, oh, and don’t drink the coffee…some employee pissed in the pot. 😉
Haha, charade you are.
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass
Just got back from the movies.
The force is definitely strong again. …Star Wars VII is very very good.
I heard the ending really sucked…but the guy who told me said he didn’t want to ruin it by telling me since I’ve yet to go see it.
Awesome! I’ve been hearing nothing but good.
**PLEASE, no spoilers.**
rgs
Glad to hear that! Looking forward to seeing it very much!
Look! Tannehill is #1. lol
Sacked Yds Lost
1. Ryan Tannehill · MIA 333
2. Teddy Bridgewater · MIN 271
3. Blake Bortles · JAX 231
4. Philip Rivers · SDG 228
5. Marcus Mariota · TEN 226
6. Alex Smith · KAN 216
7. Drew Brees · NOR 214
8. Aaron Rodgers · GNB 213
9. Matthew Stafford · DET 210
10. Russell Wilson · SEA 205
Wasn’t one of them on that fumble that lost like 30 yards?
I guess
I know one of his sacks went for a crazy amount of lost yardage.
I saw star wars. It’s sad to think that Chewbacca and Han die at the end.
I heard there is a scene where Luke is trying to hump C-3PO.
I have no desire to see Star Wars. They’re projecting $2B in revenue from everything for that movie.
Did you all read Jake Scott got picked up for soliciting a minor?
yeah, it was at a Star Wars movie, right?
LMAO!
No seriously?
You serious, Clark?
It was a playful rejoinder to SB7.
I think he said “Hey kid, want to see a REAL lightsaber?”
I remember when I read the Star Wars book (he original) and they called C3PO See Threepio and R2D2 was Artoo Detoo
Mike E,
Got to compare apples to apples.
I let the statistical guys at Football Outsiders do the data crunching for me 🙂
Look at the first table, column to far right highlighted in BLUE called “Pass Protection” and look where Miami is ranked -> 6.0% sack rate which is the mean for the NFL.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol
To me the biggest issue is when we need to convert a 3rd down or it’s a big spot that’s when the OL gets blown up.
Kong, I thought you meant Jake Scott the director. LOL
LOL, gotcha, I was wondering how you didn’t follow that. Actually supposedly Bryan Singer, the director of X-Men is having problems of this nature.
Kong
We’re ranked 24th, that’s not good . . .
And that just accounts for sacks, not hurries, hits etc . . .
yeah, that doesn’t sound very good.
….24th in what?
Sorry Kong, meant to say Al. 24th in pass protection anyway
🙂
Luke: Hey kid, want to see a real lightsaber?
Kid: Sure!
Luke: I call it it the Lukenator! Ask C-3PO.
Kid: Moooooommmm!!!!
LOL, love it.
Mike E,
Taking your list and I’ll add pass attempts to each QB (and NFL rank in pass attempts) on the list since sacks/sacks yards lost is a function of how many times you go back to pass.
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Sacked Yds Lost
1. Ryan Tannehill · MIA 333 (Attempts = 476; Rank = 8th)
2. Teddy Bridgewater · MIN 271 ((Attempts = 383; Rank = 22th)
3. Blake Bortles · JAX 231 (Attempts = 501; Rank = 4th)
4. Philip Rivers · SDG 228 (Attempts = 541; Rank = 1st)
5. Marcus Mariota · TEN 226 (Attempts = 364; Rank = 23rd)****
6. Alex Smith · KAN 216 (Attempts = 399; Rank = 16th)
7. Drew Brees · NOR 214 (Attempts = 497; Rank = 6th)
8. Aaron Rodgers · GNB 213 (Attempts = 461; Rank = 9th)
9. Matthew Stafford · DET 210 (Attempts = 491; Rank = 7th)
10. Russell Wilson · SEA 205 (Attempts = 384; Rank = 21st)
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*** Mariotta missed a month due to injury
Mike E,
Yea read the stats wrong from the Football Outsiders table…
Fins 24th; Seattle worse than us.
Remember, safeties count as sacks and yards lost LOL 😦
Tim,
I haven’t been on the board for a couple of days, and I haven’t read back. how was your game experience? other than the loss, did you have a blast?
Had a great time. Weather was awesome, the flights arrived early, ate some great food. The worst part of the trip was driving home through Philly during rush hour
Awesome! Too bad they couldn’t get the win for ya too.
This is the problem with open borders and amateurish vetting.
Maybe he retired
LOL, or read a bible that one of the dead christians he killed had. 😀
I agree it’s mysteriously unexplainable.
That can’t be the same guy. He’s wearing a ‘thank you’ shirt…he’s obviously harmless, lol.
the back of the tshirt says “and go fuck yourself too”
LOL
Maybe we should also post a photo of the hard working immigrant who’s tax dollars helped pay for the fighter jet which will eventually blow this guy to pieces
well actually not Greece
they don’t have any money
Greece is basically bankrupt
which explains why their border situation isn’t even close to ours
They can’t afford to invest in their border or much of anything these days
Randy,
Good points on RT.
I just want to see the Fins shore up the D first, get better OL depth/competition/experience, before asking the question (how far can RT take us?).
Maybe throw a middle RD pick or lower RD pick at a QB to see if someone surprises.
For the moment, there is time to let RT develop because the rest of the team blows. If the D was playing stout, the alarm bells would be ringing to replace the QB moreso than now.
That’s just the thing. If the team was running for over 100 yards per game, ST’s was playing well, and if the defense was even top 15 stopping the run, keeping opponents under 30 points a game, and we had the same record…..then ya could say, hey this Tannehill kid isn’t cutting it, can’t get us in the win column.
But we know that’s not the case. The team has failed in just about every area except the QB spot & the RB spot (when the RB is allowed to run) lol
I can’t even see what GD posted other then his comments. That’s why I said what I said using mysterious. LOL
Catch up with you folks later.
sb7mvp says:
December 18, 2015 at 3:08 pm (Edit)
I saw star wars. It’s sad to think that Chewbacca and Han die at the end.
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Tim Knight says:
December 18, 2015 at 3:14 pm (Edit)
I heard there is a scene where Luke is trying to hump C-3PO.
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I can’t believe R2D2 Is hooked on purple drank
He was such a sweet droid once….
I spent the last two years saying I can’t wait to see star wars and now that it’s out I’m like, meh. I’ll see it next week.
Luke humping C3PO is worth the $
Already saw that on bootleg
We have the 8 spot in the draft right now
Vernon Heargraves, Jaylen Ramsey or Mackenzie Alexander
lol, just reading some of the post today. you guys are something. a lot of:
no i am not you are
i know i am what are you.
i am rubber you are glue…bla bla bla…sticks to you.
since we all get to make up club names, you guys have fun with your tanny clubs, i will sit over here in the ‘ccc’ ‘Consoleing the Cheerleaders Club’
me: yes honey, i saw how high your kicks were and how hard you were cheering all for the team that just doesnt care about your effort. come over her and put your head on my shoulder
cheerleader: but robert that isnt my head’
me: its ok that isnt my shoulder
Evening Update
DOLPHINS-CHARGERS
Howie 27-24 MIA
Mike 35-20 SD
Toba 38-10 MIA
Piggy 20-10 MIA
T/P 24-14 MIA
Real 31-17 SD
GO PHINS!!!
I have no desire to deal with the crowds and craziness this time around. I’ll see the movie in a week or two (or three) once it has calmed down.
We went last night, they had 6 theaters set up showing one movie each 7-9:30. Got in about 5:45 for the 7:00 show, no waiting in line and it was about 70% full.
Really? That’s weird they started showing it that early for a Dec 18th release.
Usually the night before they don’t start until midnight.
It was playing all over town last night.
Al,
I’m tired of the debate. I guess Tannehill will be successful when we have Jerry Rice at WR. Sweetness at RB.Tony Gonzalez at TE. Ray Lewis at MLB. And, Anthony Munoz, John Hannah, Dwight Stephenson, Randal McDaniel and Forrest Gregg on the OL! I can’t wait. Lol
Randy says:
December 18, 2015 at 5:48 pm
Al,
I’m tired of the debate.
randy,
i so get this. and ok maybe not what you mean about is tanny good or bad, but i am sick of the fact once again this team has us fans debating about what is wrong with it and not what is right with it. i kind of read the comments today, and ok, have at it. you guys have fun labeling each other.
i just see once again the fins have divided the fan base about the faults of this team. i am just tired of going back and forth on here between everyone as to what is wrong with this team.
all i care is they just fucking fix it. well not the cheerleaders, let me fix them
Anyone going to the game on Sunday? Getting ready to drive down in about an hour.
Have fun Steve! Hope they give you a good game to watch!
The last one I went to was in SF 2001, we lost 21-0.
Cav
dont bother, those guys above already gave away the whole movie. I probably wont even rent it when it comes out on VCR
LOL, yeah, the big luke, 3po reveal, was a disappointment.
Dang, I see they started showing it at 8:00 Thursday here in Sacramento. Lol, why is ‘released’ on the 18th, but you can actually go the 17th? Weird
I bet they do that so they can fudge the numbers. $54 million Thursday is the highest grossing movie ever on the Thursday before release. It’s easier to break that number if you start showing it earlier, lol.
LOL Steve! I’m actually predicting we lose this one, i think SD and Rivers carve us up a bit.