Miami Dolphins Head Coach Adam Gase
The Miami Dolphins have named their 12th Head Coach in the history of the franchise, Adam Gase. The former Offensive Coordinator of the Chicago Bears and also the Denver Broncos, is now the youngest Head Coach in the NFL at 37 years old. Adam Gase and the Miami Dolphins will not be hiring an Offensive Coordinator this season, as Gase will fill those duties himself.
Gase has already begun filling out his staff, beginning with the hiring of former Cincinnati Bengals Defensive backs and former NFL CB Vance Joseph.
Defensive Coordinator Vance Joseph
Gase has also named Matt Burke, former Cincinnati Bengals Linebacker Coach to man that same post for the Miami Dolphins
Linebackers Coach Matt Burke
Our new Tight Ends Coach is Shane Day, who was the TE Coach for the Chicago Bears
Tight Ends Coach Shane Day
Replacing the vaunted John Benton is Chris Foerster. Foerster spent the 2004 season as Offensive Coordinator for the Miami Dolphins, but joins the Dolphins after coaching last year as OL Coach for the SF 49ers.
Offensive Line Coach Chris Foerster
The Dolphins have also named Shawn Jefferson as Wide Receivers Coach, former NFL WR, and former Wide Receivers Coach of the Tennessee Titans.
Miami Dolphins WR Coach Shawn Jefferson
In addition to all the position coaches and assistants, the Dolphins have promoted Eric Stokes, formerly the Assistant General manager of the Dolphins to Senior Personnel Executive.
Senior Personnel Executive Eric Stokes
So, what does all this mean? Will Adam Gase be able to transform our predictable, ineffective offense into a high scoring unit? Will new DC Vance Joseph employ a 4-3, or a 3-4, or a hybrid of both? Will former Dolphins OC and now OL Coach Chris Foerster be able to fix this much maligned unit? There a lots of questions that beg to be answered, but patience will be necessary folks, because we have a long way until we play our 1st regular season game in 2016, and we probably won’t have all the answers until possibly the end of the 2016 season, or maybe even years later.
Yeah, I’ve already started feeling optimistic, they suckered me in again! I like that Gase will be the OC, and will be calling the plays. No excuses about chain of command or the OC being stubborn and not listening to the HC, because the HC is the OC. Accountability my friends, and I like it! Gase has a lot of work to do to catch up with our divisional foes. Save for the victory against the Patriots in Week 17, the Dolphins were 1-5 in the AFC East, and if we want to contend for a playoff spot, we must do better against our divisional foes.
Here’s to hoping Gase is the magic man, and Bill Belichick, Todd Bowles and Rex Ryan are all screaming at the end of next year for Adam Gase to get off their case!
GO DOLPHINS !!
Finsmob Unleashed 
Boulder
If Campbell would have had a little more experience I wouldn’t have minded keeping him!
I’m glad I didn’t have to listen to the malarkey jokes for 3 years! 😉
just thought i would come by and rub it in all your faces. this man is a lotto winner. HA HA HA. i am rich beyond my wildest dreams now. my pockets are bulging with my wopping $4.00.
now that i am filthy rich i think tomorrow i will just drive around town and pull up to people just to ask ‘pardon me, but do you have any grey poupon’
I heard one of the guys who won was a hedge fund dude. SMH
Is Roid-Rage here, you know who I mean..
lol 13, nope i dont think so, i think he is still busy playing with his moms muffin
LOL, how many reps ??
Tim Knight says:
January 14, 2016 at 8:06 pm
I heard one of the guys who won was a hedge fund dude. SMH
well we all know how you feel about hedges
13
this is pretty much kongs evolution on the blogs
LMAOROF, could be any/all of us, too funny !!
BRUTAL = THREE WEST COAST trips in o16 AT Seattle, LARams & SD/LA Chargers, , SCHIIISH, hope at least two of’em are on back to back weeks…Had a three game road trip in o15, they should just leave us out there for a mid-season month while the Pats are at home for their yearly 5 week span, BRUTALLLL !!
Welcome KV
ThankYou Sir Ken, as I prefer KV ,13, or 17 anyways, good to be here!!
Boulder
I like Hargraves and Alexander
I’m just not sure they are “shut down” corners
I think a great corner can make a good defense great
But we’ve seen a few go 5th rounders like richard Sherman and Norman be at that level
Personally I want to see Tony Lippett get playing time
I also think Bobby Mcacain might be our future at nickelback
There is room to add a great CB
But I have less questions about the lbs and pass rushers early than the CBS
Except Jalen Ransey – but that’s bc I think he is going to be a very good safety
I would also look for Taylor to compete and try to rebound from what was a bad year for him. But we’ve seem him play better. Not sure what was up with him. He has the skills to play the position.
I would definitely look to some of our young corners next season. Br. McCain is a solid vet and we could even add another young corner in FA. I’m not a fan of taking a corner at #8 this year. I’d go pass rush or LB but I’m not sold on LB at #8 now after thinking about it.
Myles Jack is a really good cover ground guy but he’s also not considered stout against the run or overly physical. He’s more athlete than bad ass LB. He’s still young so he could get better and more physical in time. Just not sold on a LB at #8. You can find good LBs in other rounds too if you target them as a priority.
I think in the outside Jack will be exceptional
But yes he probably can use another lb more oriented to the run defense
Enter Scooby Wright
😋
Hulk done with trial
Hulk Smash opposing counsel?
13kv
willing to bet the cheats get their west coast games with the bye week to help them out
Hulk 2nd favorite team make dumb hire at OC. He probably try to get rid of Eli.
He’s not going to be the OC, his position is unknown now.
Still dumb hirr
It pretty much was unknown here. 😦
Ken, I knew you would love Philbin on the Giants. LOL
Yes Hulk not happy about that. At least Hulk happy Philbin not in Miami anymore
Lmao @ Herd
Piggy, Scooby’s con is he’s thin in the lower body and some feel he won’t be able to anchor at the next level inside. He’s going to have to be an over-achiever as is but he’s not built like a fire hydrant like Zach was.
They all have fucking cons Tim
Quit being a Debbie Downer!!!!
😜
Dude, this is what prospect evaluation is all about. The NFL is a whole other ball game. Some of these guys who looked good in college will be over-matched at the next level and just be backups and STs guys. We have guys like that already. Although I think we might have found a gem in Neville Hewitt. It does happen. 🙂
KV
Did you find out if CanAm is Tin?
CanAm replied to me at his article, and said that it was DAVE kennedy’s site, so I guess it’s not Tins site…If I recall his name was Dave but not Kennedy… CanAm’s a contributor there and he was friendly as ever as were others that welcomed me, so I didn’t wanna lure his few away from his hangout by offering this kick’n’ass site/link there!! Maybe you can find a way to hook him up privately?? ENJOYING THE HILARITY HERE, my folks are all great & loyal though all remember when the AFL didn’t exist while not remembering yesterday (like myself) though I’m still a teen at heart and enjoy the hell outta off the wall, out’da’box stuff !! Really liking the “following/reader” option, can find the most recent comments without having to scroll the entire thread, Diggggin’it especially on this day of introduction/re-introduction to everyone !! GREAT PLACE!!!!! GOFINS!!!
KV
Not sure why a couple of your posts were moderated. Sometimes certain links kick off the sensors, but it didn’t look like that was the case. I have to ask our resident techies, (not me, I’m a dinosaur LOL).
I didn’t notice any moderations, maybe some minor delays initially and when replying from the “following/reader” option, but it’s all good from what I’ve experienced thus-far !! Everything from what I can remember eventually posted within a short time frame.. THANKS AGAIN for inviting me, LOTTA MEMORIES, hopefully better ones team-wise in o16 !!
Hey, At least the Giants were smart enough to make Philbin OC. He’s basically going to be a title for a while, unless maybe he earns the OC job in time.
I still say Taylor would be better at FS
He might, he’s physical. Look at the Pats, they made McCourty a safety.
I think in today’s game you have to find flexible players who can play multiple roles and matchup. The standard defense is a dying breed because offenses throw so much shit out there.
Really good numbers against top competition for the other Clemson DE
https://twitter.com/ndtscouting/status/687817477670199296
SB
Better than a tackling dummy? It’s possible, but being better than he was at CB isn’t really saying much. I know the kid has a little physicality in him for a CB, and i get you think he can be better with the ball in front of him rather than having to backpedal and keep up, so I guess that will be up to our new DC Vance Josephs, and whomever we hire to be DB’s coach.
Tim
Jack is a great pass defender
But he’s not bad vs the run
It’s all relative when people evaluate they guys
The scouts have to find warts
And if a guy is an elite in pass coverage
What do you think hey are going to say his weakness is
I don’t see him missing tackles on tape
It’s not like he is wheeler
He’s a good all around LB
Who happens to better than some NFL safeties in coverage
I never said he was bad against the run, he’s just not stout or overly physical. Elite in coverage at the college level may mean solid at the next. Know what I mean? I’m not using the #8 pick on a nickel LB.
The guy is probably going to be the most athletic guy in most teams rosters
He is a 3 down lb
If you want to be able to shut down 3rd down plays
You need that kind of lb who excels in coverage
The NFL is a passing league
A great PAss coverage lb is not coming off the field
13kvFINS says:
January 14, 2016 at 9:07 pm
LOL, how many reps ??
that all depends on which of his 895 gyms you went too
Tim
I also think that the draft is full of players that are better than 90% of our roster
There are a few Good Teams have built the bulk of their rosters in a few drafts
These prospects are under a microscope
their flaws are magnified
I don’t care if Scooby Wright has skinny legs…lol
Let me see what he does on the field
He’s got great instincts, he’s tenacious and he’s nasty
That’s a good LB
Not one with fat calves…😛
Ruh roh
90%? Maybe 25-30%
The Flying Pig says:
January 14, 2016 at 9:10 pm (Edit)
They all have fucking cons
And the odds are that several will end up being cons. 😉
Historically bad; dont go that far Mando
Dick Anderson & Jake Scott
The Blackwood brothers
Paul Lankford
and those other two guys
It all fell apart with Sean Smith and Vontae Davis
But hey, we do have the best SS in the Biz
cant say much for our star corner and his wife though
GO PHINS!!!
hate trump of you want but he has definitely brought humor into politics
I guess we should let 13kvfins know that OcalaHowie is now Meg…..
You just did. lol
KV – Thanks bud! Really happy to have you here, whenever you feel like dropping by. Like I said, I will definitely stop by your place as well. I like to see different views and opinions on our team.
Tim
Piggy knows Samurai (WR’S) – He doesn’t know Jack about LB’s. 🙂
See what I did there?
herdfan says:
January 14, 2016 at 9:37 pm
I guess we should let 13kvfins know that OcalaHowie is now Meg…..
13, yep he is our own Caitlyn
Na-Uhhh, OH a HO
13
and if you want to see some 75 year old babe of the week just let mike e write an article for you.
Rob
Like Dom DeLuise?
KV
It would be really nice to be excited by our team again, to really feel like we’re a part of something special, a team on the rise ready to contend. It’s been waaaaaaay too long since we’ve felt that.
LMAO
I will figure out how to change my name one these days.
Proably will need to get a whole new computer here as soon as I get back into my busy season
Tim
Can you argue that we would not have been better on defense if we drafted Kendricks or Perryman last year?
If some how we had an extra 2nd last year
Do we not take a player like that bc his skills might not translate at the next level?
I dont get your position at all
They all have (prospects) warts
They all might not translate in the NFL
But you don’t have a shot at getting good players at the next level
If they weren’t good in college
Hypothetically
If we had 11 picks in the first 2 rounds
And spent everyone on defense
Almost every starters job would be in jeopardy
The early draft picks can usually play
And often produce
As long as Ireland is not doing the drafting…
Look at the players we drafted in rounds 1 and 2 the last 2 years
Those guys have futures with the Dolphins
I would not concern yourself too much with the negative things scouts say about the early prospects
They are looking for flaws
I think we would have been better with a few of the LB’s in this draft, definitely.
Kendricks yes, Perryman was okay. But if we don’t have a pass rush none of the backend matters. Where are we getting a pass rush from right now?
Our pass rush was actually not so bad
Even after wake went down
But pass rushers are pretty much a premium position
So you can always get more
mike
i dont agree with that. it was just the start of last season that most on here were screaming how great this team was going to be. some predicting winning the division and a deep playoff run.
now is you meant a long time since after the season was over we felt like that then that is true
KV: Hope you have some interest in the game stories of the ’72 and ’73 Dolphins as I believe Herd is going to run them some time during the off season. Welcome aboard!
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Mike E; Thanks for the write-up. Excellent as usual. And NO, I am NOT sucking any KOOL-Aid just yet. Gonna stick to my “SHOW ME” roots and assume that the DOOFUS BRIGADE has brought us yet another colossal failure. ROSS/PETERSON/TANNENBAUM have yet to make a significant right decision since coming to Miami.
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NOW I KNOW TIMMY is going to say “How can you rip these guys before they’ve coached/played a single game?” –Easy, Tim, I CAN and WILL rip these clowns because of who picked them—-none other than the DOOFUS BRIGADE!! –It is called HISTORY, Tim. Those who fail to learn history’s lessons are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. –But hopefully I am TOTALLY WRONG and you can remind me of that when we are seated at SB LI as our Fins take on the Cowgirls or whomever!!
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Mrs. OD has told me to get all my Dolphin stuff on this page tonight because I will NOT be seated at the computer any time tomorrow night!! Ahhhh–birthdays can be SOOO-O-O enjoyable! –Hope you guys have a great evening and a better day tomorrow. Great Grandpa’s got to walk the greyhound and call it a night! PEACE to all.
You can think anything you want. Enjoy!
OldDolfan; Thanks for the “”Welcome Aboard”” offering, and hello to you also.. Went to many a game between 66 & 74 at age (7 – 15), so yea I’m into Herds reminiscing of those days !!
Piggy, I like Jack. I’m talking #8 and I’m not convinced he should go that high today. That could change by March.
I tend to agree with that
The thing about Jack and Ramsey
Who are both 2 of my favorites
Is right now they are highly ranked
But I’m not sure they don’t fall behind some of the other prospects based on position
The early part of the draft is often filled with QBs, CBS, OTs and pass rushers
And WRs to a certain extent
Safeties and LBs aren’t really viewed as premium positions
But for those two players – I see difference makers
And go Scooby …well I just like the Scooby do reference😛
Agreed, LB is not a premium position to most teams. Only if he’s special.
Goff will go top 10 (#2 Clev), but does anyone else really need a QB?
Goodnight OD – I told ya, I admit I’m a sucker!
BBL
Piggy, I also feel you take what I say about some prospects too much to heart. We’re talking #8 not that the guy sucks. LOL
Screw you human
I know you eat bacon
I bet you ate bacon today you son of a bitch!
And btw I don’t take anything to heart😉
Also Tim
I think the pass rusher class last year was the best in years
And it’s not as goody is year
There are a lot of 1st round grades in the pass rushers
But right now – I’m not sure any of them are going to be perennial pro bowlers
I like the pass rushers
And I want to go defense
But I’m not salivating about any of them like some of the other players I mentioned
I actually just want us to draft the BPA that makes sense.
That’s what you do at #8. We have enough areas we can improve in to take the best prospect on our board.
Piggy, our 4 man pass rush was middle of the road at best. We had to blitz a lot of the time and that’s when we saw guys wide open with nobody around.
I don’t think we are going to keep Vernon
But we can count on Dion Jordan to come though in 2016
Right?
Right?
Right?
Why is it so quiet?
Several people here are going to FLIP the fuck out if we go BPA an take an OT!!!!!!!!
I wonder if the bpa won’t be one of those 2 highly touted OTs
Good convo. Goodnight, folks!
AT 8, Jimminnny Crickets, need any stud at DE (CWake done till late o16 (if not 4ever/age/injury significance), & FA’s OV/Shelby, and (though I initially liked the plan of him opp of CWake), I ain’t paying DJordan 6 mill to flip burgers, STUD CB, STUD LB, STUD S, and what would be wrong with OT Ronnie Stanley seeing that not having a legit backup T was the straw (JFoxx) that broke THills back, while in the meantime BA ain’t gettin any younger and we need his eventual replacement IN PLACE, a guy that can pass block at either T position productively and play guard until need be !! LT BA missed 1st five weeks took till midseason to get up to speed at which point JJames went down for the seasons remainder, NEED a T or two, not two for tea !! Otherwise beyond DE (depending on OV/DS/CW), and OT, I LOVE the top 3 CB’s, and don’t hate MLB Reggie Ragland !! SCHIISHHH, supposed to get easier with every year, but we refuse to stay a course of potential growth, Not that I didn’t have my fill of Droopy-Dog JP !! PS, our intended starting OL five has played together in just five of our last 35 plus games, that’s two years worth of games that our intended starting OL 5 hasn’t been on the field at the same time !! Can’t go wrong with whoever we pick at 8, guess that our own FA’s and high paid old guys will decide which way we’re forced to go??
KV
Don’t get me wrong!
Taking an OT @8 will not piss me off!
Some of the others?????????????? 😉
The Flying Pig says:
January 14, 2016 at 10:11 pm
Screw you human
I know you eat bacon
I bet you ate bacon today you son of a bitch!
i did you swiney fuck you. matter of fact thrice. a pizza with extra bacon at lunch. snacked on some bacon flavored ritz then finished the night with a bacon sandwich
It wouldn’t annoy me either, kind’a but it’s an obvious necessity for BA’s annual absence.. However, I’m pretty sure that if Grimmey & CWake refuse paycuts that CB & DE will become a higher priority than BA’s eventual replacement and/or a viably legit backup T !!
Pretty sure that Grimmeys wife will jump at the chance to get outta Miami, seeing that she can’t handle her booze in the parking lot and that’ll leave CB the top priority !! Ramsey would be my choice due to length, tired of our CB’s getting out jumped by a guy that refused to jump for Henne, or the likes of that unmentionable purposeful saboteur!! Like Alexander & Hargreaves too if Ramsey is gone !!
I’ve been saying for over a year that O-line needs help, and that we shouldn’t have counted on #76. I was right early in the year, and then it was James who went down. Having Fox as our swing tackle was a huge mistake. Just horrible depth at T. Our G’s weren’t any good either, so basically we threw a good T, and good C out there, and said work with it. We don’t have to take a T at #8, but if a great one was sitting there, I wouldn’t cry. I’d rather do that than have to make excuses about Tannehill, that guys are in the backfield before he has time to throw.
I’ve long suggested that any two G’s should find the game relatively easy when surrounded by the healthy nucleus of BA, MP, & JJ, but the nucleus has only played together 5 times in two years, so who really knows what we have at G when said G’s have zero concerns about who’s at T or C… I like Billy Turner, DThomas’ confidence at G has been destroyed by being forced in and out of T positions.. Think that Turner & DThomas would be fine at G, IF EVER surrounded by BA, MP, & JJ !! But no doubt, we need T & G starting caliber depth, if not starters outright !!
It may be too early to say Billy Turner isn’t a starter, but Dallas Thomas has had a bunch of chances, and he seems to always fall flat. He could be a decent backup, but I think it’s time to realize DT isn’t starting material. You might be right about the unfortunate constant rotation with the tackles, but I also think it’s more likely we see Jamil Douglas at LG and either Turner or someone new at RG.
Grimes is just a good player in decline right now. He’s still probably better than anyone we currently have on the roster at CB, but $9.5M, not so sure.
Goodnight KV! Time for me to turn in. Once again, a pleasure to talk to you again, great to see ya man!
Back’At’Ya Brother, appreciates every ones hospitality !! : ))) I’m out too, L8’s…
finfanrob says:
January 14, 2016 at 11:04 pm (Edit)
The Flying Pig says:
January 14, 2016 at 10:11 pm
Screw you human
I know you eat bacon
I bet you ate bacon today you son of a bitch!
i did you swiney fuck you. matter of fact thrice. a pizza with extra bacon at lunch. snacked on some bacon flavored ritz then finished the night with a bacon sandwich
*****
I sort of assumed you were the sausage type
🙂
Do Pig & FFR actually hate each other, or are they sharing FFR’s couch??
We don’t hate each other
we just screw with one another
besides FFRob’s couch is to crowded with sex toys and lubricant to make any room for me
Let-Alone the ridged (for his satisfaction) protruding springs
Mike E. says:
January 14, 2016 at 11:35 pm
I’ve been saying for over a year that O-line needs help, and that we shouldn’t have counted on #76.
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I’ve been saying this for the better part of a decade. We had to go to the Wildcat in 2008 because we couldn’t run the ball effectively in the first two games. I honestly don’t care if we pick a guard at #8, I really don’t. We’ve been saying “we can pick one up to develop in the later rounds” for years now, and that hasn’t happened. If it helps fix our OL, and we can move him to LT once Albert leaves then I’m all for it.
KV – I think Tin’s real name was David Ch@mberl@in (not sure of spelling).
UK; “”KV – I think Tin’s real name was David Ch@mberl@in””
Sounds familiar.. He’s got a twitter account under TinsFins, but it doesn’t offer much explanation to who or what he’s doin.. I’ve had it in my followings since the day twitter came to be (or thereabouts), but I’ve never noticed any activity though his profile picture seems to have changed unless facial hair in photo’s takes place on it’s own over time.. While I’m not very active on twitter myself, and got lucky the other day in telling OKelly to get outta town, cuz he’s certainly not asset to our franchise along with other insults which led to MikeE following me which led to me recognizing MikeE’s name from the SS and hookin up with him/this site : )) Usually I only go to twitter to post my articles which are all at my twitter or FB page, but OKelly was pissing me off, so I went off on him, told him he only speaks 3 languages, Dolphin negativity, Fake-Ass Wanna-be ebonics when talkin with the Brothers, and not sure of the 3rd !! He seemed to come off as a little less negative the following day?? GOFINS!!
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And this
Remember Grimes had a knee earlier in the season.
Could that be the reason why he couldnt hang with the big boys anymore?
I dont know but I still dont like his wife…
You make a good point Howie – a lot of our players were playing hurt and we won’t know until next camp if he’s lost a stride or not. He was still decent in coverage imho, but when he gave up plays they were invariably big ones!
OkalaHowie/MegShaw; “”Remember Grimes had a knee earlier in the season.
Could that be the reason why he couldnt hang with the big boys anymore?
I dont know but I still dont like his wife…””
The first game that Grimmey’s drop in play came was in the game that his beyotch got arrested BEFORE the game.. He was likely made aware of the incident before kickoff, couldn’t concentrate and got shredded all day and (for the most part) his play snoballed downward for the season remainder.. As well as the knee.. His girl that one only hope’s to cee u next thursday was probably bitch’n at him before every game about remaining a Dolphin which likely led to his less than productive season.. Luv him, but don’t see how he can stay in Miami at 10 mill as long as she’s in the picture !! He’s such a nice person, guess it’s true that opposites attract!!
Above comments in connection with Joseph’s philosophy on D. I like Grimes a lot and he’s a great technician, but bump and run he is not. I would like to see a LOT more passes contested in the free hit zone. We won’t win all those battles, but we didn’t win too many of those battles played out downfield either. I want to see QB pressure + WR disruption, not either/or next year.
Hargreaves is a very aggressive man player, can play press very well. I know piggy has his doubts but he has great instincts and closing suited for zone, he is very aggressive and can tightly shadow for press and he has great ball skills for making plays in man.
He only had a couple games this year he made aggressive mistakes. Unfortunately for him it was the last two of his college career, he went for the highlight reel move to jump the route on a double move and read wrong. That was like 2 plays though in otherwise great games in an otherwise great year.
Sold! First rounder or later D? (I see no college football)
After the draft last year
I was pretty sure Hargreaves was going to be a top 5 pick
I though he was the undisputed best DB in the draft
maybe even the best defensive player
but the 2015 really changed things
I think that has to do with having him under the magnifying glass
He really played well most of the season
but lately I’m hearing other CBs talked about more positively than him
It looks like I missed a bit of the reunion yesterday. HELLO 13kvFINS!
By the way the sippy cup was mine! Patrick was all hung over one morning complaining about not being able to drink while in the shower the morning of a hangover and I suggested to him using a sippy cup because I had converted one of my nieces sippy cups to a man sized sippy cup. The White Russians were all his! LOL
Good seeing you. Welcome back
I had a niggling feeling it was you Rock, but remember Patrick being involved.
Rockphin;
“””It looks like I missed a bit of the reunion yesterday. HELLO 13kvFINS!”””
Back’At’Ya Brother, and thanx for the “”Welcome”” !!!
I remember those sippy-cup days
while he (THill a mere NFL backup) & I are often at odds..
Don’t know what a White Russian consists of as I’m an import beer guy
but P says he drinks high grade scotch these days..
Piggy:
Hulk smash opposing counsel. Hulk do really really really good
Good job Hulk!
It feels good when you work hard and do well
Hulk ready to reap rewards now!
Another player we need to make the second year jump in the secondary is lippett. He would be a perfect CB if Joseph’s philosophy is aggressive press type CB play.
Is joe w mormon? Why is everybody calling him joseph?
He’s married to Mary?
I’m all aboard with either Hargreaves, Ronnie Stanley, or Shaq Lawson in the 1st. I also like Bullard in a trade down or trade up from the 2nd round.
Also, Ramsey and Tunsil would be awesome, but we would probably have to trade up.
there seems to be a lot of momentum in Mackenzie Alexander as the best CB in the draft instead of Hargreaves
What do you think of that?
I would not mind Tunsil at 8 but I know he will be gone in the first few picks
I don’t know about Stanley though…I don’t love that pick
but I really would prefer to focus on defense
I’ve been pretty high on the 2 OLBs lately – particularly Myles Jack
I tend to think Ramsey and Jack are likely to have the most immediate impact
Well Joe W is wrong. Pass rushers are the most important players on defense. If you don’t have that it doesn’t matter if you have a pro bowl secondary, guys will still get open.
I think pass rushers are the most important player too
I think CBs are a close 2nd though
The problem is you don’t see a lot of great corners in the league because even if they are really good they’re at a disadvantage the way the rules are set up. The best way to slow down a passing attack is to attack it before the ball gets in the air.
Yeah Tim
I agree
when it comes down to it, in the league today you need big plays on defense
You need negative yardage to stop a drive
and that’s what you get out of the pass rush
sacks are far more common than interceptions and its always been that way
if you can get a 2nd down sack
its much more likely to stop a team from scoring than a 2nd down pass break up
Teams are going to move the ball under the current rules
Exactly! It seemed like we were all set up with a pass rush this year and then they got off to a horrible start, then Wake went nuts and we were leading the league in sacks during a 5 game span, then Wake went down and the pass rush struggled again. It was very up and down all year and now we really don’t know what our DE situation will be like with FA and Wake’s Achilles. All I know if you go into the season with a sup par pass rush the defense is going to struggle.
One way to get sacks is with good coverage ……. just saying. This isn’t binary – one or zero.
ukfinfan says:
January 15, 2016 at 5:55 am
I want to see QB pressure + WR disruption, not either/or next year.
…….. QB pressure is important Tim, but everything has to act in concert. You need both. What the Fins need is someone who can go out and find both. Watch this space.
Of course you want good corners, but pressure helps corners contest more passes. It is really hard for guys to cover these days. You can’t breathe on them without getting a flag. So you have to bomb the launcher. LOL
Or bomb the catcher in the first 5 yards
speaking of CBs
the other Clemson CB (Cordrea Tankersly) is and interesting prospect
I don’t think he has decided whether he is going to come out or not
but if he does he is probably a day 2 pick
maybe even a 4th or 5th rounder
I like Tankersly a lot
He is very good in run support
he is not as touted as Alexander
Clemson is always stacked with talent
drafting a guy like Tankersly a little later in the draft
fits the model of drafting guys who can contribute right away
big school
big time competition at the highest level in college
There are a couple of small school guys I like
but for the most part I want to draft like the bengals or the steelers have
and try to go after big school guys
some times the 2nd best CB at a big school is significantly better than the best guys at other schools
if nothing more – guys like that are probably ready to compete at the next level
Tankersly looked bad in the championship game, but overall he looks like a solid candidate and i like he’s got some size to him. Id be ok with him in a later round if it just doesnt work out for us to get Hargreaves, but i think if we lose Grimes (which i believe is going to happen), we either need a guy like Hargreaves in the first, OR get a FA like Janoris Jenkins and then draft a guy in a later round. If it worked out that we got Janoris Jenkins, drafted Ramsey, and then picked up Tankersly later, id be pretty ok with that outcome.
I don’t think he looked bad
late in the game it looked like he was the only one making plays
I dont think Tankersly looked awful, but he had some coverage misses. Im not putting a lot on that game either, Derek Henery was responsible for most of the secondary miscues because they had to be so flipping concerned with him getting loose. No way those guys stop Henry 1 on 1 so they had to make decisions on playing run early so they could assist with making tackles. Kearse was responsible with one of the TD to Howard, he came up and played run, Howard got behind them, TD. Still i mean whats your poison there, if he doesnt react to run on a formation they had be successfully running out of all night, Henry gets loose and runs by him like he did on the first TD. He had a really hard assignment that night. I still consider Kearse a solid SS candidate, but im not as desperate to get him over other candidates now. I have kinda fallen back to Jalen Mills as my primary fallback FS target.
If we didnt need LB and DE so bad i would easily have us going CB/FS 1 and 2. Either Hargreaves with Mills/Kearse or Ramsey with Will Redmond, Desmond King (if he falls that far), or maybe Fuller if his injury pushes him down that far.
Id be afraid to do that though considering i think we would miss out on too many top ILB/DE prospects.
The Flying Pig says:
January 15, 2016 at 9:18 am
After the draft last year
I was pretty sure Hargreaves was going to be a top 5 pick
I though he was the undisputed best DB in the draft
maybe even the best defensive player
but the 2015 really changed things
I think that has to do with having him under the magnifying glass
He really played well most of the season
but lately I’m hearing other CBs talked about more positively than him
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Its literally coming from last two games (SEC Championship game and the Citrus Bowl). He has been raved about by just about everyone right up until those games, and i watched those games (of course) and he only had a couple real breakdowns in coverage. Both were double move routes where either he though he had safety help over the top of the coverage and played the break in the route, or he just flat out was trying to be too agressive and make too good of an impression and unfortunately was wrong. He has characteristically been much more solid tha those games and what i saw was just trying too hard to make big plays. Both games too were games where the defense knew it had to get some turnovers because the offense was playing so poorly. He jumped the route, and was wrong…..2 times.
its an example of why I say you have to dismiss some of the negative stuff scouts say about players
The more coveted a player is – the more intense the scrutiny gets
Its almost impossible to remain the most highly touted CB in college for a year
Sure the draft is full of busts and guys ho can’t do it on the next level
but scouts have never been good at predicting that
there are trends in the draft as to who is hot and who is not
and right now Hargreaves is not
but its odd to me that people are eager to disregard what the guys did most of the last 2 years based on what he did the last few weeks of his career – but that is the draft for you
Its like every scout wants to be the first scout to highlight some one weaknesses
They want to be able to say “I said he would struggle in the NFL first”
I really think that sort of draft mentality is why there are so many busts and so many misses
UK, with all the spread formations and motion it’s not as easy to jam guys within 5 yards. If it was every team would do it. Just remember if the corner misses and the WR gets past him it’s a big gain.
D
and for the record
both you and I liked Stefon Diggs a lot last year
and he had a very good season for the Vikings
720 yards for a 5th rounder as a rookie is impressive
and Diggs is an example of that weird draft trend bs
I mentioned Diggs after the 2014 draft as one of the top rated WRs coming out in 2015
then all of the sudden in the 2014 year he drops and drops and drops
and obviously he was still a good prospect
the hype with Stefon Diggs just wasn;t timed right….lol
It’s also really hard to evaluate some of these college defenders. Both Clemson and Alabama have really good defenses and look at what the score was. The way the game is played it’s really difficult to defend all the stuff offenses do.
I think you evaluate the prospect and not so much the team stats
you look for a guy that catches your eye here and there
I kind of expected a high scoring game
its always a high scoring game with Clemson
Alabama generally is not involved in those kind of games
but the SEC plays a little more pro style than some of the top teams in other conferences
Alabama IMO is one of the hardest teams to evaluate
bc they are stacked with talent – and talent up front
they are about to put a bunch of DL in the NFL
after putting a bunch of OL in the NFL
they’ve put some disappointments at RB int he NFL in the past
and those guys probably feasted on a dominant OL in college
So I wonder this years if the LBs are not so good
Piggy
No draft prospect is perfect, so I totally agree with what you’re saying. Look at Leonard Williams, who was unanimously the safest pick and the most talented player in the draft. He played on a very talented DL with the Jets, and he was OK, but not great. He may eventually get there, but he was not a dominant player.
I would still take Williams on my team today!
I think we need Ereck Flowers more than Williams though. Some here might say we need Mariota or Winston more. lol
The Flying Pig says:
January 15, 2016 at 9:15 am
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Actually, I do like Mackensie Alexander a lot. He plays very physical. The only knock would be his height, but you could say the same for Hargreave’s size. He’s probably a very close 2nd. Unfortunately, Desmond King kinda hurt my mock draft of taking DE in the 1st and CB early 2nd.
I also love Cameron Sutton’s upside. Though I’m not sure if he’s coming out or not.
Stanley would be my choice if Tunsil, Ramsey, Lawson, and Hargreave’s were off the board. He’s very solid and should be very good at LT for the next 10 years. But he’s definitely not the prospect Tunsil is. …Tunsil is elite IMO. I personally like the second tier guys like Conklin, Decker, and Spriggs in a trade down late 1st/early 2nd too. But we can’t wait too long if we want a LT in this draft.
I personally don’t like the idea of drafting anyone in the 1st round coming off a knee injury. With that said, Myles Jack was the guy I mentioned wanting to draft in 2016 as soon as the 2015 draft was over. Love the player, hate the injury. So I probably wouldn’t take him or Jaylon Smith early. …Trade down in the first and pick up another mid 2nd rounder then we can talk.😉
the thing is
I’m not sure if you trade down those LBs are on the board
Unfortunately because of the injuries, I would take the risk.
Man dumb and selfish just keeps going to new heights. SMH
https://www.yahoo.com/music/powerball-reimbursement-fund-page-created-235504618.html
Unbelievable. FFR has a Go Fuck Me page
who wrote that article
they forgot to mention how much she spent buying tickets
which seems like a critical fact to the story
Whatever it was, she can’t go home. LOL
rgs, I wouldn’t touch Jaylon Smith. He probably won’t be ready to play much or all of the 2016 season. Jack’s injury happened earlier and he’s probably almost done with his rehab. We’ll see if he participates at the combine or has a pro day. His injury was also an MCL not an ACL that requires 4-6 months, not 9-12 like an ACL.
Good point, Smith would probably be off my draft board based on that.
I can’t use a #8 pick on a player who may not play in the 2016 season for a team who finished 6-10.
Actually, I probably wouldn’t touch him the first 2 days.
I don’t think we should take a first RD player unless he’s going to be able to play this season, from the start. We’ve all seen what happens with that, and it’s not good. We’re not good enough to do that.
Oops, meant injured player
That’s my #1 rule, no injured players the first couple rounds. Also, I like drafting OL, DL, DB, or QB in the first. … And the other positions only if the player is a special talent.
Yeah it’s not like we’re this established winner who can take a player like that and get him back in 2017. We need the #8 pick to help us in the 2016 season. Period!
That cunt probably spent $4 on powerball
I spent $4 on it
where is my reimbursement
I spent $20 with my office. We won like $16.
woop woop
You are up the price of 2 coffees!
enjoy them on your way to work
Bc you are gonna have to keep working for the REST OF YOUR LIFE now that you actually lost!!!!
I was just looking at what some of the first RD players from this year’s draft did this year. Danny Shelton on the Browns nickname is Feast Mode. LMAO!
Tim
I feel like we need quite a few of our picks to help out in 2016, and from our first 2-3 picks, you’d really hope to get good production this year for sure.
For me 1-2 need to start or play significantly and make an impact. 3 can be a solid backup and STs developmental player and 4-7 compete for roster spots.
With our team, we have a lot of young players who need to take the next step. Guys who have been here a couple of years and haven’t done enough are running out of time.
Yeah, that’s about right. It could help a lot if we could get quality production from our 1st 2-3 picks. We did get that last year with James and Landry, but this year Devante wasn’t ready until late season, Jordan Phillips was a nice player in the rotation on the D-line, and Jamil Douglas got playing time (Although it wasn’t always pretty), and McCain and Ajayi both played a fair amount, so not too bad.
Actually, Lippett showed some promise at the end of the season. I’d love to see him develop into a quality player. I don’t think it’s a pipe dream, I think it’s possible.
Speaking of Powerball
Did you know it can be beaten? (in theory)
Here is how
if you spend $500 Million dollars on powerball tickets
you can buy every possible combination of numbers
and if you are the sole winner – That’s profit
but if 2 people win you took a loss….lol
Also in takes 9 days to print the tickets
And they draw new numbers twice a week
Which means its actually impossible to do
I think that’s what Cinnamon Girl did, that’s why she set up the Go Fund Me page.
13kvFINS says:
January 15, 2016 at 12:31 am
Do Pig & FFR actually hate each other, or are they sharing FFR’s couch??
why would i hate the other white meat.
(and 13, piggy is one of the good guys. like he said just a lot of ball busting but always all in good fun)
FFR; “”(and 13, piggy is one of the good guys. like he said just a lot of ball busting but always all in good fun)”” In good fun, I talk like that with my good buddies in person, but in most cases via text the fun is misinterpreted, cool that you too get-it no-matter the format !! As I’m aware that you and I have bumped heads a time or two in not knowing whether or not one or the other was being serious or just playin around “”in good fun””..
I personally when buttons are pushed can tend to get a lil touchy when lacking sticky nuggets ; ))) , but it rolls like water off a ducks back shortly thereafter !! (And we’re still together), https://youtu.be/04OlwoBBW8o
The Flying Pig says:
January 15, 2016 at 9:06 am (Edit)
Good job Hulk!
It feels good when you work hard and do well
Hulk ready to reap rewards now!
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Unfortunately being on the defense side of things is that after saving the company perhaps a couple million dollars is that they give me more work at the same salary
So for doing great work, you get rewarded by having piles of more work? Sounds great! I think that’s true in most jobs though, when they know they can count on you to do something right, they give you more things to do. Hopefully it pays off eventually.
That’s basically how my office (currently) is as well
doing a good job means they rely on you to do more of it
Mike E, Lippett was on with Greg Likens and said this offseason he wants to add some weight and strength, work on his footwork and really delve into what you need to do to be a corner. He said he never really worked much at CB in college even though he played there sometimes..
Cool, be dedicated to your craft. Maybe he’ll be able to pull it off.
Though it’s early, who do you think is the safest prospect for us at #8 that makes sense for our team? I’d say probably Shaq Lawson because he plays a premium position and has pass rush skills.
I like Shaq a lot, but i dont see him as an 8th overall selection. I think Hargreaves is top for me at 8, followed by Ramsey. Lawson is a stud, i like him best i think above all other DE prospects, but he and Bullard are pretty close, and they are only slightly more appealing than Buckner, Ogbah, Calhoun, Floyd and Nkemdiche, infact id be really pushing for Nkemdiche over all of them if he hadnt gone full tard and pulled the stunt that got him suspended from the bowl game. Nkemdiche is the better talent of all of them i just worry about where his head is an how serious he really takes his profession now. Back to topic though, Shaq isnt so much better than all of them than to secure a player at another position that is a shallower pool of talent.
Your score is: 7585 (GRADE: A)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8: Jalen Ramsey, CB/FS, Florida State (A)
Round 2 Pick 11: Desmond King, CB, Iowa (A-)
Round 3 Pick 10: Kentrell Brothers, ILB, Missouri (A+)
Round 4 Pick 9: Denver Kirkland, OT/OG, Arkansas (B+)
Round 5 Pick 8: Charles Tapper, DE, Oklahoma (A)
Round 6 Pick 11: Ricky Seals-Jones, WR, Texas A&M (A+)
Round 7 Pick 6: Travis Feeney, OLB, Washington (A+)
Round 7 Pick 10: D.J. Reader, DT, Clemson (A-)
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Here is one where i kinda forced a FS/CB 1/2 punch, it didnt turn out bad, i would have liked a stronger DE prospect for sure, but Brothers would be a really good ILB pick in the 3rd.
BTW if ya havent scouted Seals-Jones i think he would be a really good later round WR. 6’5 235-240, could play flex WR/TE, good red zone receiver. 4.5 40 time. Very nice later round pickup, if he does indeed fall that far.
Is King returning? If so swap Will Redmond for King, as he on the board then and would have been the guy i took in place of King. I hadnt heard King was returning. I think thats a mistake for him.
I believe I heard he was returning to Iowa. I loved your mock above because King and Brothers were 2 players I wanted Miami to draft.
I think Kirkland could be a real steal IF we are going more man blocking scheme. He is a really good OT, big strong guy, moves pretty well but he would be better in man scheme.
Yea, I like both Arkansas linemen. …Tretola
Miami Dolphins Cheer @MDCheer 31m31 minutes ago
Take a break and head to @MDC_Danica’s swimsuit gallery on http://dolphinscheerleaders.com/cheerleader_photos/danica-swimsuit …
Adam Caplan @caplannfl 3h3 hours ago
Former #Falcons OT Lamar Holmes worked out for the #Dolphins.
He was a 3rd rd pick in 2012. My guess is he’s struggled.
Id trade back if Ramsey and Hargreaves are off the board personally. Trade back and then take either a DE (any of the ones i listed above but in that order) or Ragland. Im not a fan of Jack and his injury concerns me. I really dont wanna go 1st round on a guy we arent certain of, so that unfortunately would include Fuller as well.
I take that back, id take Laremy Tunsil at 8 as well.
If we had our choice of any player, I would probably put Tunsil at #1 on my list. …A Pro-bowl LT in the future.
Chris Perkins @chrisperk 2m2 minutes ago
Perkins: #Dolphins should draft Alabama RB Derrick Henry in first round http://bit.ly/1n0KTG5
Lee Harvey @Wyoming85Lee 12s13 seconds ago
@chrisperk Do they drug screen over there?
Perfect example of why Perkins is a novice when it comes to the NFL. I watched a video of him Hyde and Omar the other day and it was like watching The View, I couldn’t get through it. LOL
LOL @ Wyo
Chris Perkins at the SS is a freaking idiot. he’s worse than Omar. (that is saying something!)
Alabama running back Derrick Henry, the Heisman Trophy winner, has declared himself eligible for the NFL Draft, according to a report. I’d like to see the Dolphins take him with the No. 8 pick.
It’s the best thing the Dolphins could do to help quarterback Ryan Tannehill and their struggling offense.
NO the best thing the dolphins could do to help the struggling offense would be to fix the god damn offensive line. You do not take running backs in the first round unless they are Adrian Peterson type backs and there is really no way of knowing that from college.
Harvey is also an I-formation back, he needs some time to get going. AP is the same where lines up 8 yards deep in the backfield. I doubt we’re going to use the I-formation as a staple of our offense.
If Harvey was there in the 2nd rd I would think about it. He is a hammer with speed. Only if we lose Miller though. If we bring Miller back I like him and Ajayi.
Wyoming, I owe you a beer!
Rob Proffitt @BreakinDownFilm 3h3 hours ago
How much of a student of the game is CB Mackensie Alexander? He has a notebook of notes on every WR he’s ever faced, including, …
Rob Proffitt @BreakinDownFilm 3h3 hours ago
Clemson WRs he faced in practice Martavis Bryant & Sammy Watkins because he knew he would face them again in the NFL.
Good morning.
More prospects entering draft.
I LOVE IT
Henry in the 2nd RD if he makes it 🙂 that is all.
TOP 10? LMFAO! fuck that :). He’s not Todd Gurley or Adrian Pederson. His body can’t take that grind or is he that physically challenging to opposing defenders. He is benefiting from a strong OL scheme at Bama.
Are you in Cali?
Tim,
Just read that the story of a Hedge Fund manager being the California winner is a false story.
Oh, the guy at a local Krauser’s told me that.
Michael David Smith @MichaelDavSmith 3h3 hours ago
Vontaze Burfict may single-handedly keep the Steelers out of the Super Bowl. He injured Antonio Brown, Le’Veon Bell and Ben Roethlisberger.
“Grizzly Adams” star Dan Haggerty passed away this morning at age 74
http://www.12newsnow.com/story/30976178/grizzly-adams-star-dan-haggerty-passed-away-this-morning-at-age-74
Another one lost to cancer
lmfao.
Not in Cali…said good morning cause i had just gotten on the page for the first time today
RIP Grizzly Adams. I actually used to like that show when I was a kid. That raises the disturbing question of why?
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