Oh those Pesky Belusian Gopher Flies! Like any good intergalactic agent – I shoot a photon missile directly at a planet. I know its not the most creative way to destroy a planet…but I love watching the way the planet explodes.
Except mid air…out of nowhere a Gopher Fly grabs the missile and takes it away before it makes contact. Light years away I see an explosion in the direction the fly went.
That must be what a pick six feels like.
Then days later…I found out that one of the Alpha Alien’s favorite vacation moons has exploded after it was hit by MY MISSILE!
And who gets blamed for that!
I don’t even know what those pests are…are they a rodent or an insect…
kinda reminds of some of the prospects I can’t place
Su’a Cravens is a fascinating prospect. In his freshmen year Cravens played Safety for USC, then USC switched him to Linebacker.
At both positions he excelled at USC.
So which is he in the NFL?
Well, I’ve seen him called the next Troy Polamalu.
And I think he fits the mold of a safety.
But not everyone agrees. In fact I’m hearing a lot of NFL scouts are projecting him at Linebacker in the NFL. Which surprises me. But what do I know – I’m not even from your miserable planet.
Could it be that Cravens fits the mold of the new NFL pass covering linebacker? Seems like this sort of Linebacker is more and more what the NFL wants out of the position in a pass happy NFL.
Cravens may not be the best coverage linebacker in the draft this year, that honor probably goes to his instate rival Myles Jack. But Cravens is one of the best available this year and one of the best I can remember.
But that is not the only thing Cravens did at USC. Cravens had over 200 tackles in 3 years at USC. He forced 4 fumbles and had over 10 sacks in the last two years while playing linebacker. So this guy is pretty versatile and makes impact plays.
But how about those 9 career interceptions NFL scouts? Don’t tell me that is not a safety I see in the field!
Well, scouts counter that by mentioning Cravens’ lack of speed. In fact he is not expected to run a very fast 40 yard dash at the combine.
But then again, if Cravens runs a fast 40, I wonder if the Cravens at safety talk picks up?
I expect Cravens to be picked int he first two rounds of the NFL draft. There is even some talk he may go in the first round, but it’s too early to know.
What I do know is that Su’a Cravens reminds me of one of the pesky Belusian Gopher Flies. That son of a bitch will pick it off and take it back for a touchdown! That’s his alien weapon of destruction!
You can watch his highlights here to see what I mean
Finsmob Unleashed 
Tim,
Where do you think we are going to get all this money to sign all these high priced free agents you want us to sign?…LOL
Mike E and SB7. LOL
Boulder, if you want ‘current’ top vet talent then you have to sometimes pay for a high priced UFA.
If you just sign the SFA’s that was mentioned above, then you’re really getting the guys that a team doesn’t want. Cut because their play has diminished, injury problems, like Jahri Evans, etc.
The Bears have informed free agent Matt Forte they won’t be re-signing him.
“Despite my wishes, my days as a member of the Chicago Bears have sadly come to an end,” Forte wrote. “I was informed earlier this week from the GM that they will not be attempting to re-sign me in free agency.” The writing has been on the wall for months. Forte’s agent tried to engage in extension talks during the season, but was shot down by GM Ryan Pace. Chicago will move forward with Jeremy Langford and a younger group. Forte turned 30 in December and has been connected to the Patriots as a potential match.
Langford was impressive. You always go young and cheap if you can.
Langford had a few good games, but also fell off after that too. I wouldn’t be in such a hurry to crown him king of the RB corp there if I was them. Look for them to draft one by the 4th.
gdp,
The last few high price signings haven’t worked out for us. Wallace, albert, suh. And I don’t usually see teams that spend a lot of their salary cap on single FA get far in the playoffs. I’m not saying we should never sign an FA but we should be more careful how we spend money in the FA.
Suh started off slow but was a beast for 3/4 of the season. Albert is our starting LT.
for 100m he should be a beast the whole time and make the probowl. And albert has been injured too much to be worth the money we gave up for him. I know it was a freak accident but he was injury prone before he got here. Just ask the KC fans.
Freaking Tim wants to break the bank on FA’s all the time. WTF!!!!
Mike, you know how silly Tim can be!
Tim
I understand what you meant with the designations, but there’s no coincidence that the SFA’s that are late cuts are usually going to be less money than the UFA’s.
That’s not what I was saying. I was saying when you’re looking for talent it makes it more complicated trying to set it up to get future comp picks. Most of the time they’re mid to late rd picks anyway. You only get high picks when you get looted and don’t spend.
Boulder, Albert had a knee injury in 2014. He started 14 games this past season. You said they haven’t worked out for us and that’s inaccurate. Suh is a building block on defense and Albert is our current starting LT.
Wallace didn’t work out because because he quit on the team so we traded him. Suh and Albert are core players regardless of what you think about their salaries.
Suh isn’t a building block, he’s a building complex at $100M. lol
LOL
This is how i look at things with FA and draft.
Picking at 8 i can get a guy who should start right away. I personally feel we have a deeper draft at DE and i dont feel any of the ILB or OLB prospects grade out as high as the top CB’s do in this draft so i would likely cut Grimes who’s production is not where his salary is and look to replace him in draft as i am confidant that one of Ramsey, Hargreaves or Alexander will be there at 8. I wouldnt therefore look to replace him with a FA due to value not being there. I have considered a guy like Janoris Jenkins, young guys who could come in and lock down the position for us for several years to come but i really dont think his productivity with NFL experience is going to be a huge jump over these guys who have shown exception ability in college.I might would take a shot on a guy like Morris Claiborne on a cheap show me contract but at CB that would be the extend of my CB moves.
As far a Wake is concerned i might would look to off season moves like someone cutting a top DE. If we could get a guy that replaced Wake at about the same salary level so that it was a cap hit wash, id rather get a proven NFL vet to lock down the position and draft lower at DE since there is going to be value deeper at that position so i could use my second round for ILB . Alternately we could look to ILB in FA /cuts (generally a cheaper position) and then make DE a target in the second. With the depth of the DE draft that should mean a starter even from the 2nd round.
I do think getting a starter level guy in FA would help us a lot this year, we just have to make sure the cuts even out with what we pay someone else and that we dont try to do too much of that in FA. Maybe a starter on D and one on O would be where i would limit my big spending, and if other FA moves were made at all they would be budget minded depth kind of moves.
I think our pick is going to be Alexander or Hargreaves. I don’t think Ramsey or Mack will be there for us and like you said there is depth in DE/edge rushers.
I know it may sound like i want a lot of pickups in FA but when im talking abotu these guys there is always an either or in the back of my mind. I dont think we can get Glenn and Jenkins and etc etc. I am thinking If we get Glenn we have to give up on the idea of signing two OG’s for example or a DE. I think thats the problem with a lot of people and how they view others comments on here, we purpose things all the time but its not a culmination of those proposals most of us thing is possible its like 1 or 2 out of our dream scenarios we are hoping might happen. Everyone here is smart enough to know we cant buy everything in FA, so i dont think really anyone is suggesting that.
Id be all over Mario Williams and James Laurinaitis though if cut and we can work out a deal that makes the guy we cut and what we pay them pretty much a wash. That would be a very smart, successful move imo.
GD, Langford was a rookie and showed promise. I didn’t crown him as anything. The Bears in rebuild mode so no surprise they don’t want to pay Forte.
True, and a lot of teams move on from 30+ yo RB’s these days, especially at his price tag for them. Which is why I said the other day…why pay for Forte when for a few dollars more we could stick with our in house stud Miller who’s 5-6yrs younger with his best football still ahead of him, not behind him.
Totally agree with that.
Rockphin says:
February 12, 2016 at 8:54 am
Mike E, have you read Raymond Fiest?
One of top my 4 favorite authors!
D, I wouldn’t be overly excited to be all over Mario Williams. He seems to be declining @ 31 after an up n down career. Not worth the money he’ll likely get.
Now Laurinaitis is a different story. He’s been pretty solid. Not great, but solid & is just 29. He could man the middle for us for a few years.
He had 14.5 sacks in 2014. The entire Bills defense declined under Rexy boy. Williams and other Bills defenders didn’t like Rex’s defense. He had Williams and Hughes dropping into coverage as OLBs when they’re more pure 4-3 DEs. I think Williams can still play and he’s younger than Wake.
They went from leading the NFL in sacks the last two years to finishing 2nd to last in 2015. Well done Rexy boy! LOL
Ugh… another school shooting. Not sure if it was a suicide. It looks like it could be. Sad either way.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-police-worried-parents-gather-near-school-165348569.html?clear=cache
That’s a mess. I don’t really know what to make of that.
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STEPHANE NEMBOT LT #77 Colorado Buffaloes vs UCLA (2015) via @draftbreakdown
#NFLDraft
#ncaafesp
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Jack might still be there, and if he is, I’d be surprised if we don’t take him.
Jack, Mackensie, or Hargreaves
I wish Ragland would last till our 2nd pick, then I’d feel better about Hargreaves or MacKensie in the 1st
I think we’d take him too but I could see him going earlier especially if he runs in the 4.3s like he’s projected to.
If Jack’s not available at pick 8 I’d try to trade down and land Ragland and an extra pick.
Scooby Wright should be there in the 2nd if we take a CB in the 1st. We NEED LB’S!!!
Agreed…..except I’m not overly enamored with the round 1 DBs outside of Ramsey.
He might be there in the 3rd. There is some depth at both OLB and ILB in this draft.
Wyo, I agree with your three.
Mike, Ragland will be likely there when we pick.
He’s not going to be there in round 2
I meant #8. I guess I misunderstood what Mike was saying.
I read right past the word 2nd. LOL
As Mike said though, Scooby might be available.
You think he’s a 2nd rd pick? CBS has him in the 3rd or 4th as of now ranked at 114.
According to Adam Beasley of the Miami Herald, CB Jamar Taylor’s days in Miami “are numbered.”
The Dolphins have a ton of cap space to shed and letting Taylor go seems like a no-brainer. Taylor was an absolute train-wreck last year and didn’t even play after Week 14. His criticism of the team’s coaching staff didn’t help matters. Taylor is only due $900,000 in 2016 but both sides seem ready to move on.
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I beg to differ. Yes he sucked. But @ $900K, it might be worth giving him 1 more year to see if he can turn it around under Vance.
Personally, I’ve said a few times over the past year, to see what he can do as a FS. He’s physical, big, might work well @ S.
Something wasn’t right with him this year. I mean we saw good potential the year before.
Something wasn’t right about most all of the defense under the Coyle install.
The problem we have with Taylor is when he gets injured he stays injured because of the Kidney issue and not being able to use basic anti inflammatory meds. He wasn’t mentally with it last year and a move to Safety isn’t a great idea with his condition.
Tim Knight says:
February 12, 2016 at 2:11 pm
You think he’s a 2nd rd pick? CBS has him in the 3rd or 4th as of now ranked at 114.
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Saw an article at the end of last week that he’s training in Miami and has dropped weight & has been timing in the 4.6 range in the 40. I think it may have been Bucky Brooks who mentioned if he runs that he might sneak into the backend of round 1.
Rooby Roo!
Bolt, if Taylor’s kidney condition is bad enough that he can’t be moved to FS, then it’s not good enough to stay as a corner either.
So cut him due to health reasons then.
Good possibility it happens. I feel bad for the kid to have things go like this, but sometimes the map of life takes you in a direction you didn’t plan.
Dbolt, interesting points on Taylor.
Scooby doo in the 1st? He dropped weight to run in the 4.6 range but what does he run at his playing weight? That’s what I don’t like about the 40. Run in pads at your playing weight from your positional stance.
His weight pre-injury was low/mid 240’s and then he was at 258 when he came back. He said his goal is 238lbs and no lower.
I do agree, I’d rather see guys tested in equipment doing position specific drills.
GD, Taylor has always played under Coyle though. So when he played well before he went down the last 4 games in 2014, he was playing under Coyle.
That’s a small sample Tim….and against what WR’s & QB’s. Plus we had a better pass rush then too.
I was just saying not sure scheme effected him. He looked better in 2014.
I’ve been mentioning this kid a few times. Thought we could steal him in a later round, but seems the rest of the NFL is catching up.
LSU CB Rashard Robinson is “drawing a lot of interest and intrigue from teams,” reports TFY Draft Insider’s Tony Pauline.
If you haven’t heard of him, don’t fret. Robinson hasn’t played football since his freshman year in 2013. He was booted off the team and never got back in Les Miles’ good graces. “Personnel people from the Oakland Raiders and New York Giants believe Robinson would’ve competed for the top cornerback spot in this year’s draft had he played the past two seasons and built upon his impressive freshman campaign,” Pauline wrote. “I’m told he will measure over 6-feet/2-inches and is expected to run the forty in the 4.3’s at the combine. I’ve also been told Robinson has been invited to participate at LSU’s pro-day. As someone told me earlier today teams are willing to roll the dice on tall corners that can run fast as the demand far outstrips the supply. The point being Robinson could be selected much earlier than people project.”
I saw someone earlier discussing compensatory picks and how many picks we have in this upcoming draft. We have 8 picks and will like only have 8 when we draft unless we trade someone for a lower pick along the way. There is no way in hell we get a Compensatory pick. Those picks are always based on LAST years adds and losses and are based upon salary and production and we added the highest paid defensive free agent in the history of the NFL last off season as well as some other FA’s. We won’t be seeing a Comp pick again this year, while I bet Ol’ Bill get’s one once again.
If Tim hadn’t brought in all those high priced free agents last year we’d be making it rain compensatory picks.
We can’t get compensatory picks this year, that’s over with. I want to ensure that we get them every year or almost every year in the future. Then we’ll be doing business the right way.
I don’t think any team has a set plan to acquire comp picks each year. It happens or it don’t seems to be the norm.
NE seems to always get them in the 3rd rd too…SMH!
They don’t sign big FAs.
I don’t think anyone thought we were getting any. Mike E was devising a plan to sign FAs that wouldn’t count against our lost FAs so we could start getting a plethora of compensatory picks.
LMAO!!!
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/ted-cruz-campaign-pulls-ad-after-learning-actress-155723591.html
The circus continues…lol
One of top my 4 favorite authors!
Wyoming, I’m not surprised. From what I’ve read on here you and I have very similar taste in books / authors. I have read nearly every book / author you have mentioned on here over the past few years.
dbolt48 says:
February 12, 2016 at 1:53 pm
Agreed…..except I’m not overly enamored with the round 1 DBs outside of Ramsey.
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I dont see how. Hargreaves has been the top tier CB for years. He stepped foot on the field for UF showing uncanny innate ability at the position. Only thing he has as a knock against him was last two games of the season when he played too aggressive trying to help win games when he knew his offense couldnt get it done. Literally in those last two games he made just a couple mistakes when he tried jumping a couple double move routes and he got burned. Thats 2 times out of 3 seasons. Why so sour on him?
I’m just not a huge fan. Now the guy who didn’t declare that I really liked was King of Iowa.
I’m not a huge fan of Mac Alexander neither and I would take Hargreaves over Alwxander though. I can trust VH to tackle at least.
Iowa has a King?
and I wasn’t invited to his coronation? !!!!! Shocked!
I liked King but i really dont think any of them have a more rounded skill set than Hargreaves. I liked Kind better than Alexander. Still my UF bias aside i think Hargreaves is a unique talent. I think you can go back several drafts and he is the best of those groups as well.
Ive been watching the trends and i know he is trending down, part of me is like hell yeah we might could even get him with a trade back but i wouldnt chance it. That trending probably starts going back up as soon as combine and pro days finish. He’s the best true CB this draft to adequately replace Grimes.
I just ordered some Kartherine Kurtz novels from B&N . com I read some “Kelson” novels when I was young and figured I would check her out again. (older stuff from the 70’s & 80′) that I never see in the book store.
It’s Friday and I’m gonna drink until I’m staring at a wall like this person:
Lol ….freshman year!
She’s like, “I’m about to puke, but those Brats are so fucking great I’m going to eat one more!”
Is the dude behind her popping her?
I don’t believe so 😂
getterdone says:
February 12, 2016 at 2:58 pm
I’ve been mentioning this kid a few times. Thought we could steal him in a later round, but seems the rest of the NFL is catching up.
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Ive seen him mocked plenty in the 2-3rd so i think people know his ability level, they just dont know what to think of a guy who hasnt played in over a year and was kicked out of LSU. I mean a dude curb stomped a guy once before and Miles suspended him for 1 flippin game lol. Makes you wonder how bad do you have to be for him to dismiss you all together.
He will probably be one of those guys unless he has a jaw dropping combine, he will probably have a draft day slide.
That poor girl up there either wound up puking on someone later than night or being passed around at a frat house. She is obliterated.
She looks like she needs to take a thumper dumper & is praying for the game to end😂
She also looks like one of those fish from sponge bob.
Crazy stuff!
Dbolt, he’s looking around like nobody sees what I’m doing heheheheheeeee…. LOL
I agree he has a extra special creeper factor to him.
https://twitter.com/MDC_Kristan/status/698197634192900097
getterdone says:
February 12, 2016 at 2:10 pm
According to Adam Beasley of the Miami Herald, CB Jamar Taylor’s days in Miami “are numbered.”
The Dolphins have a ton of cap space to shed and letting Taylor go seems like a no-brainer. Taylor was an absolute train-wreck last year and didn’t even play after Week 14. His criticism of the team’s coaching staff didn’t help matters. Taylor is only due $900,000 in 2016 but both sides seem ready to move on.
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I beg to differ. Yes he sucked. But @ $900K, it might be worth giving him 1 more year to see if he can turn it around under Vance.
Personally, I’ve said a few times over the past year, to see what he can do as a FS. He’s physical, big, might work well @ S.
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When i projected out my cap moves for offseason i originally was cutting him, but i agree its not like he is expensive, he’s cheap even for a backup at that position.
I let him compete in camp because he was a 2nd rd pick and he’s only 25.
Kinda why i feel Moriss Claiborne is worth a low 1 year show me contract in FA. He’s a former 6th overall pick, from a very good program at LSU that turns out some awesome DB’s. I think he needs a change of scenery and the talent is still there.
Thanks for agreeing.
Source confirms the #Dolphins are releasing ex-#NYJ OLB Quinton Coples (as @Rand_Getlin said)
— Kimberley A. Martin (@KMart_LI)
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I really wouldnt mind them re-signing him to a show me contract, we cant afford those to eat that 7.75 mil he’s due next year
cant afford though….
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo 3m3 minutes ago
Dolphins releasing CB Brice McCain, according to his agent @davidcanter
Rand Getlin @Rand_Getlin 8m8 minutes ago
The #Dolphins are releasing Quinton Coples, a source said.
I like IPA’s lol
Claiborne wouldn’t be such a bad idea, however, he’s never played a full season. Misses a lot of games with nagging injuries.
In my offseason list, i had Coples being either cut and re-signed for a 5mil 2year contract or renegotiated down to that. I also had Brice McCain being cut.
I think Coples looked pretty decent being dropped into a shitty system last year and as far as 4-3 DE he’s got the right build for it.
Brice being cut means Vance likes what he sees in the younger guys, probably specifically Bobby McCain.
What I’m basically saying is, build through the draft, don’t overpay in FA, and really try to fill small holes in FA rather than big ones (Depth rather than starters) and the compensatory picks will come regardless. That’s the way I’d prefer we build our team, like the best teams, The Steelers, Patriots, etc . . .
Best teams do that though because they have a solid starting group. They dont have holes in major places, and they keep the holes from mounting up by staying on top of re-stocking in the draft. We have been bad for so long we are riddled with holes that will require some starting caliber FA’s to fill them. If we do it right though we can get ourselves into a position to do what you are saying, which i agree is the right way to be.
You know what then, don’t try to fill every hole in one season. If you keep doing the same thing, buying in FA, you can’t get yourself out of it. Draft the holes you have, and play them.
Right, you cant try to fill all holes in one season, you get an FA or two, like i said maybe one on each side of the ball. You try to get a good draft and next year you look at the holes you have left and maybe one FA and rest draft, and then next year nothing but depth in FA and more draft and now you are where ya need to be and you keep going from there. If we were in a different position id say for sure do what your sugegsting but we could really use at least one starter on D and one on O.
D
The Steelers have had an awful secondary, especially CB’s for a few years now. they don’t panic and spend on the best CB’s, they just go with what they have. I think we should do the same. Draft a couple of CB’s, maybe stick with Grimes this year, and hopefully between Grimes, Taylor, Lippett, McCain and the 2 draftees, we’re OK.
I dont want to spend in FA on a CB, thats one of the most expensive places to get CB talent, especially being int he position we are in to draft one of the best in the draft. Grimes is a boat anchor, he is expensive and he isnt effective. Why would you keep him?
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NELSON SPRUCE WR #22 Colorado Buffaloes vs UCLA (2015) via @draftbreakdown
#ncaafesp #NFLDraft
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/nelson-spruce-vs-ucla-2015/ …
Classy!
Mike E,
In case you were wondering …
http://www.thehuddlereport.com/scoring/top100.shtml
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Btw, that NFL.com knows their own game is a fallacy :P. They aren’t motivated by profit to produce quality.
Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
Dolphins will either have to tag Olivier Vernon then deal with his tantrum over it, or pay him 5-yr, $50M….or say goodbye.
Omar Kelly ✔ @OmarKelly
With Lamar Miller the Dolphins will either offer him a fair deal before free agency, or compete with better teams to retain (4yr, $16-20M)
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I’d be handing Miller a pen if he can be had @ that price.
From PFF yesterday:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/02/11/pro-top-25-breakout-players-of-the-2015-season/
4. Olivier Vernon, DE, MIA
2014 cumulative grade: +13.7 on 977 snaps
2015 cumulative grade: +54.9 on 850 snaps
Vernon appeared a solid complement to Cameron Wake coming off his decent 2014 season. His early-season production wasn’t particularly special, either, but he exploded in the second half of 2015. Vernon recorded a combined 81 pressures this season, including a single-season high of 30 hits. He more than doubled both his 19 knockdowns and 25 stops from 2014, proving he’s an elite edge defender. The Dolphins have a tough decision to make with limited cap room and Vernon’s expiring contract.
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You’ll notice a few names in the top 10 that some of us liked on draft day 2 drafts ago (WR Allen Robinson & OT Terron Armstead)
Robinson will be around a long time & same with Armstead who was said to be too small for LT.
From PFF this afternoon:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/02/10/pro-top-8-running-backs-about-to-hit-the-market/
2. Lamar Miller
2015 team: Miami Dolphins
Miller (85.6) was our fourth-highest graded running back this year, and heads into free agency with youth on his side; the former University of Miami star going to be just 25 when the 2016 NFL season begins. It also helps that he has graded higher than the year before every season since entering the league, and has even fewer carries to his name than Martin. Miller saw just 194 carries last year, something that irked many Dolphins fans who wanted to see him get more of the ball, and he’s topped 200 carries just once in his career.
As well as forcing 28 missed tackles as a runner this year, Miller improved his chances of being a three-down back somewhere in the NFL by catching 47 passes and dropping just two, after dropping six in 2014. The new regime in Miami might realize the errors of those that have come before them and make locking Miller up long-term a priority, but if not, he’s unlikely to be short of suitors when free agency rolls around.
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Tbomb & Grier, Don’t lose this guy!
James Walker @JamesWalkerNFL 14m14 minutes ago
The #Dolphins and former assistant GM and personnel executive Eric Stokes have mutually parted ways, the team announced Friday.
Time to send my resume in pronto!
https://twitter.com/iHeartMiko/status/698229079615672323
Pure Class….SMH!
https://twitter.com/iHeartMiko/status/697940288061444096
Oh yeah man, dont ever even seem like you are crossing her. One time she posted something and i just answered a question she asked. She thought i was being a smart ass and was a complete cunt. After that i did mock her, which the ones i actually did she didnt get was mocking her lol.
I looked at a few of the mock draft sites with recent updates and most everyone has us taking one of three people. Noah Spence, Vernon Hargreaves, or Myles Jack.
GDP,
“Dolphins have to franchise OV and piss him off, pay him 5yr 50 mill, or send him off” is a bit misleading.
The franchise tag is what it is, an extension of an ongoing contract negotiation (a tool to do so).
The money paid out in the franchise tag is, generally speaking, considered by both agent/GM to be part of the future deal’s guaranteed total being negotiated.
Thats a huge amount of money.
You’ll notice a few names in the top 10 that some of us liked on draft day 2 drafts ago (WR Allen Robinson & OT Terron Armstead)
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2) Weston Richburg, was i guy i really wanted.
7) Derek Carr, i liked a lot, said he 2nd, possibly top QB of that class. Didnt expect us to draft him.
8) Delvin Breaux, i remember mentionig a couple times as a later round guy, i think he wound up being UDFA, but at LSU he was pretty solid, just got overshadowed by other players.
9) Tyler Eifert, i think most everyone here like
11) Sammy Watkins, same for him, though i like Odell Beckham better that year.
13) Trai Turner, i know at least me and i think was MikeE that really liked Trai
15) Charles Sims, after Senior Bowl i wanted us to take this guy badly.
20) Gabe “Tim says your too fat” Jackson, Mikey……
Matt Miller Verified account
@nfldraftscout
Darian Thompson vs. Keanu Neal for top safety is going to be a tie broken at the Combine
Wyo,
Not surprising about Stokes considering Hickey brought him in to be an assistant GM.
With Hickey gone, I’m sure he felt like he was on a lonely island with Grier & Tbomb in charge.
D,
Yea, I saw a few other names that were mentioned around here…When I saw Turner & Gabe, I remember some around here liked them alot at a time when Miami needed OG in a desperate way.
Al
It’s not necessarily about their mock draft accuracy, it’s just the scouting reports themselves. BTW, do you know whose website “The Sideline View” is? Lance Zierlein, the guy who does NFL.com’s scouting reports.
She is a real piece of shit…
D
Sorry bud, I had to escape from work. You know I don’t love Grimes, and his salary is high, but I don’t want to let him go and then replace him with another high salary. If we just get a young guy for depth, that works for me. I’d like to see our young guys we draft play, and see what they can do, along with good ol’ Bobby McCain and Lippett.
Jenoris Jenkins & Trumaine Johnson both of the Rams, really jump out at me as FA CB’s that are young seeking their first big deal.
That’s the thing man, I don’t want to hand out a BIG deal. We need to stop doing that. I really don’t. It’s got to stop, or we’re never gonna get out of that pattern. Quit COLD TURKEY!
Trumaine is going to be the next big thing.
D,
In terms of OV’s total guaranteed figure in any future contract, he’s probably going to get something close to the 20 mill range.
In 2014, Everson Griffen took 19.8 mill in guaranteed money as a 4-3 DE.
In 2015, Jared Odrick took 17mill in guaranteed money as a 4-3 DE.
This month, Vinny Curry took 18 mill in guarantees in his new deal with the Eagles.
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Charles Johnson has the highest reported gaurantees as a DE ($32 mill)
Followed by Mario Williams (24.9m), Chris Long (23.6m), Dante Fowler (23.5), Dion Jordan (20.6m)
I mention this only because if OV is franchise tagged (at lets say an arbitrary number of 15 mill this year), that will count towards whatever is finalized as a new contract’s total guaranteed. If the Fins agree to a 23 mill total guaranteed contract (arbitrary number), then he would be given 23-15=8 in extra dollars past 2016 to make the new deal happen.
Mike E,
That’s all good (whoever NFL.com outsources for draft stuff); i was just discussing the notion of the NFL producing the best content because they manage the game itself :P.
Eric Stokes leaves Dolphins
Eric Stokes, who served as the Dolphins’ assistant general manager for the previous two seasons, will be leaving the franchise.
Stokes, whose position was changed to senior personnel executive when Chris Grier leapfrogged him, becoming the Dolphins’ general manager, will seek opportunities elsewhere.
I don’t blame him, Now he doesn’t have to work with Tannenbum.
Stokes was in a wierd position with the change at the top.
Stokes came in with Hickey as “assistant GM” after Hickey beat Grier for the GM position 2 years ago (Grier was interviewed at the time when Miami interviewed several GM candidates for the position Hickey was hired for). Now with Hickey gone and Grier in charge, well that leaves Stokes in a slightly uncomfortable position.
Mike E,
Except that Brent Grimes salary is not high by the position standard.
He ranks 12th and is tied with Ladarius Webb $. He isn’t worse than Ladarius Webb.
I’d rather keep Grimes for this season than pay someone else a big contract. I don’t love him, but he’s not terrible, he’s just not great anymore. He’s average to above average.
He’s definitely above average…i don’t know who’s great in your book if Grimes is just ‘average’ lol. Most DB look bad without a successful front 7 that can create pressure and make QB make bad throws; that’s just the nature of NFL defenses.
I guess Revis isn’t great either since Watkins burned him repeatedly this season.
Fuck Grimes & the whore he rode in on!
You best bet Id take that 6 mil saved cutting him and apply it long term to Trumaine Johnson
Waste of time rewarding Trumaine who was protected by the Rams front 7 production.
Keep Grimes 1 more year while developing another CB and drafting 1 this year/and or next year to compete with the new starting position next year.
I think a lot higher of Trumaine than you. Even if they don’t sign him I definitely want Grimes gone.
Mike, I agree about going for high priced FA’s. But there is a difference to look at when you have young guns like Jenkins (27) & Johnson (26), vs. when we signed Grimes @ 30yo and coming off an achilles.
Dbolt,
My point is that Grimes is priced right for 2016 $ wise.
Trumaine is not coming here looking for a 1 year deal and will command forecasted production value of 3 years. I’d rather say fuck you to that unknown (what production will be) and get some rookie this year or next year (or an internal candidate already stuck on a rookie deal) to give cheap production.
Disagree on Grimes priced right. $9.5 is way to much for his play last year especially when he made business decisions on the field that made Cam’d super bowl thing look honorable. I’m of the thought that Trumaine is going to be one of the best DBS in the league for a long time.
I do understand what you’re getting at though👍
I agree Al. Let the young plays
If we draft 2 CB’s, let them play. Between Grimes, the 2 drafted CB’s, Lippett and McCain, we should be fine. We always complain our young guys don’t play, let ’em play!
Al in MIA says:
February 12, 2016 at 6:11 pm
I mention this only because….
Al, I think you are spot on, but keep in mind while sitting on the Franchise Tag he takes up the full FT amount until the restructure of his extension is finalized, limiting other moves the Dolphins can make in the short run, when the window is there, so to speak. Plus that could last until July.
July 15: 4 p.m. ET, deadline for any club that designated a Franchise Player to sign such player to a multiyear contract or extension. After this date, the player may sign only a one-year contract with his prior club for the 2016 season, and such contract cannot be extended until after the club’s last regular season game.
Mike E. says:
February 12, 2016 at 6:16 pm
I’d rather keep Grimes for this season than pay someone else a big contract. I don’t love him, but he’s not terrible, he’s just not great anymore. He’s average to above average.
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Mike i think then we are pretty much on the same page, im saying cut grimes draft a CB in the 1st to replace him. Thats actually a cheaper route to get better.
I will say though you have to also look at things like this and just bear with me, Im playing devils advocate here for the most part. Grimes gets paid about 9.5mil a year give or take. If you cut him and save 6.5mil, sign a guy like Janoris Jenkins who is good but probably isnt going to get a record setting contract. He probably gets paid around 8.5-9 mil per contract. You do some cap magic moving money around and you wind up with a guy who may cost a little more than what we save cutting Grimes this year and then about the same as Grimes cost for the rest of his contract. We in essence havent done anything but upgrade the position for the same money.
Al FT for him is going to be around 13.26mil, to me thats just too much. It is a fully guaranteed amount so it counts 100% against cap so its a 13.26 cap hit. Even if we get a contract done with him, its a this year 13.26 hit, and if he doesnt sign, which he wont unless he gets paid what he thinks he is worth, we are still stuck with the 13.26 hit and a one year rental on him. Im not a fan of tagging him this year. We eiher get a good deal done with him or let him walk. The market is pushing his value up right now, way higher than it needs to be. If Mario Williams or some other big named DE’s get cut, we should work hard to get him signed then when there is something driving his market value down to something affordable to us. Re-signing a guy to a HUGE contract is the same as signing any other FA to a HUGE contract so if you arent in favor of it for other players, why Vernon who everyone here has every year said isnt that great.
I don’t think Grimes is done as a player. He could bounce back nicely in 2016 under a better ran defense. His salary isn’t out of line like Al has brought up. But I’d still like to see him restructure if he wants to stay, or else cut him & his sideshow.
He’s had 13 INT’s & 43 PD’s in the 3yrs he’s been a Dolphin.
A few bad plays always stick with people. As if Grimes didn’t make any positive plays. This time of year fans and the media play The Turk. LOL
Wow a lot has happened since I got home. The Turk is in action.
From March 9th until July 15th that Franchise Tag could seriously hinder what we could do. I don’t thinks they will tag him if he insists on going after the highest dollar. MAYBE the transition tag, but even that is the average of top 10 or 9.4 million if they can’t restructure before July 15th. The franchise tag would tile up 11.5 mil
I’d like to tag that avie ass.
3/3/2014: Signed a four-year, $32 million contract. The deal contains $16 million guaranteed — a $6 million signing bonus, Grimes’ first-year base salary, and $7.5 million of his second-year salary. 2016: $7.8 million (+ $50,000 reporting bonus), 2017: $7 million (+ $25,000 reporting bonus), 2018: Free Agent
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GEEZ, Rock. We all know how to go see the calendar on the NFL website.
My finger got tired scrolling.
D
I hear that, and I do appreciate that. I just think it keeps us on the revolving FA thing, and I’d like to start by this year by not signing any high tier FA’s, at any position. I doubt we go that way, because we just haven’t done that, but it’s time IMO.
ESPN’s Mike DiRocco expects Jacksonville to re-sign free agent Chad Henne.
The Jaguars don’t need Henne, but have the cap room to keep him as a veteran backup. Henne could return on a two-year deal in the $6 million range.
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snicker snicker snicker
Well, this solves the Coples dilemma, gives us the $$$ for OV,
and also increases the probability of an early (first two rounds) CB AND DE draftee !!!
“””The Miami Dolphins today announced they have terminated the contracts of defensive end Quinton Coples and cornerback Brice McCain””””
http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/press-releases/…
Coples made very little last season. The Dolphins never picked up the $7.75M he was due this year and that’s why he was cut so we didn’t save that money. He only made $534+K last year. His contract was back loaded.
They’ll likely try to bring him back at a highly reduced earn it deal.
Under no circumstance would they have kept Coples at $7.75M, we all knew that. The question is what is our cap at now after these cuts?
$10,251,000 savings off of the cap, so if Suh is restructured the team can do about what they want in FA. OV, Miller, and Matthews can now be signed to extensions, if they want.
and McCain was scheduled for a 3.5 cap number which suggest we have over 11 mill more available today than we had yesterday, and I believe that we were near the max if not slightly over before today, (had Coples/McCain scheduled o16 income been finalized)..
What a surprise another bad call in a college sporting event. Boise State at Colorado State. BSUs Buzzer beater called off, and the excuse was refs were looking at a replay that was slowed down and using a stop watch in real time. College sports corruption at it’s finest.
GD, possibly on Coples but that depends on whether they were impressed with him or not.
If we do resign Coples it won’t be for much more than the vet min. Does anyone know, if he’s shown any upside? He played sleepy in college like Dion Jordan played for us.
Agreed but Rex had him playing out of position at OLB in his 3-4 ’46’ defense. Bowles cut him because he didn’t view him as an OLB and he likes big athletic DTs at DE in his 3-4. Coples is a 4-3 DE, but still maybe not that good.
Maybe I’m wrong, was Coples’ $7.75M on the books until now? I guess we picked up his contract when we claimed him. Either way we’re not paying him that so it’s either a savings or a wash.
Yes, he was on the books http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/cap/
But that money was never paid and the Jets paid him for most of his first 3.5 years. So did we really save $7.75?
Anyway, he won’t be on the books and I just posted about Suh’s contract. We did some really creative stuff with his deal. We’ll have money in FA to do quite a bit if we choose to. We may not sign big time FAs but we may add more quantity of players. More proven players than some of the youth we have and upgrade some areas.
Here you have it on Suh’s contract. It’s good to have good capologists. 🙂
http://www.thephinsider.com/2016/1/27/10840222/dolphins-ndamukong-suh-contract-restructure-on-the-table
Adding the just under $19 mil savings on Suh’s restructure to the $10 + mil from Coples and McCain, we would then be $30 mil under the cap, and of course the signing of OV would be at a low amount for the first yr, so that wouldn’t take up much, and Miller’s wouldn’t take up much either.
Our capologist is like Stacy’s mom, she’s got it goin on 😉
Told ya so days ago. 😛
Now, who’s the brave soul that has to go tell Suh about the restructure?
Tbomb will probably send Grier in with a pen & a helmet….lol
I read that days ago. I was re-posting for those asking. 🙂
I’ll do it. Suh’s going to get the money in cash as a bonus, instead of per game.
Mike E. says:
February 12, 2016 at 6:31 pm
If we draft 2 CB’s, let them play. Between Grimes, the 2 drafted CB’s, Lippett and McCain, we should be fine. We always complain our young guys don’t play, let ’em play!
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Are we in agreement that Lippett is a good CB, and may turn out great, because of his ball skills?
Very little body of work to go by but he’s flashed in practice and in games at times. He was a bit of project when we drafted him with him playing more WR in college. But he has upside and could be gem.
I think we could target Jets LB Demario Davis in FA. Tannenbaum drafted him in 2012. He’s been a good player for the Jets.
Wouldn’t surprise me. Heard Rex is pushing the Bills to sign him.
He’ll have plenty of suitors. He’s been a productive LB, he’s got 4 years experience playing ILB in their 3-4 but would probably be our MLB. He still has upside and he’s only 27. That’s an instant upgrade. We would probably release Misi saving almost $5M per. Sheppard is a UFA and won’t be back.
About $3.6 mil savings for Misi, he’s got dead money of just over a mil.
Steve, I knew we’d have money to sign guys in FA, the question is what is OV and Miller worth?
Miller signing isn’t solely on the money, he’ll have to be told how the team can use him properly before he signs. OV is worth about $10 mil per yr.
I don’t view OV as a $10M per player but maybe he’s on the rise in the team’s eyes. I think his impact on games based on his pressures and hits is a bit exaggerated. He’s not a big finisher in the sack dept. LOL
We could have upwards of $40M if we make more cuts with some players who have been discussed and restructuring Suh’s deal.
Steve
I hope Lippett can be a solid starter, but I think it’s time to see if the kid can play.
I thought Lippett was playing better than any corner on the team by the end of the year.
He was a 5th rd rookie who was more of a WR than CB in college. He’s a project but a good one. They already started to play him down the stretch last year and he held up well. He’ll be given every opportunity to start or play more. Wouldn’t it be cool if he was our 5th rd Richard Sheman/Josh Norman? 🙂
LOL @ Steve on “Our capologist is like Stacy’s mom, she’s got it goin on ;)”
I liked Lippett from day one cuz we needed depth at CB/WR, and now I like Bobby McCain even more but think that we need more of a guarantee at CB with Hargreaves. Think that Grimes is at the point where he should be the #2 CB and I personally want to get a true #1 on the team before Grimes is gone while his wife’s in his head and has his foot halfway out the Dolphin and NFL door.. Once Grimes is gone Lippett & McCain and other no-names alone don’t cut it, GIMME Hargreaves !! GOFINS!!!
We may very well go CB at #8.
Tim Knight says:
February 12, 2016 at 8:29 pm
I don’t view OV as a $10M per player but maybe he’s on the rise in the team’s eyes. I think his impact on games based on his pressures and hits is a bit exaggerated. He’s not a big finisher in the sack dept. LOL
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Judging by your last sentence you official judge dudes sacks😂
Hey give me credit I left it out there for the laughs. LOL
😂👏👌
This is how fast you can turnover positions with upgrades and projected upgrades. Sign Demario Davis at MLB, draft a CB at #8, keep Grimes and let the young guys compete. Boom!!! You already upgraded the back end of the defense and more upside is also there with young players.
LIKE-IT, and a DE in the 2nd and S Miles Killabrew in the 3rd, BAMMM DONE ; ))) backup TRUE OT in the 4th, 5th, 6th, & 7th boooyahhh…
Good depth at DE this year in the draft.
Yea but we need first year starter material
I would get rid of Grimes just to get rid of that scumbag wife of his.
Hell, he cant hang with the big boys anymore. and she will leave him cause he cant hang with her either.
GET ON OUT OF HERE THE BOTH OF YOU!
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He played well more than he struggled and he’s still our best corner. You better have replacements before you get rid of starters or you’ll be worse.
If Miami does walk away from Miller I’d expect them to target Devontae Booker from Utah. Good running back who’s good in the passing game whether in protection or catching the ball. Think Matt Forte stylistically.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2061491/devontae-booker
LOL @ “Shows soft hands and good body control to collect the ball and turn upfield fluidly, but most of this production came via simple passes to the flats and screens.”
As opposed to running 9 routes, posts and deep outs? He a RB!!! We have Parker for that. LOL
LMAO, right?
Dbolt, what the hell are those emoticons? LOL
Fun😂
I bet she’s fun. 🙂
Booker is a good back!
Just a little earlier than I wanted to draft a RB!
True, but if he’s an ideal fit for Gase’s O so be it.
Dbolt, you can tell when a guy is a pretty good player when these scout sites try to come up with cons.
In the pros column you’ll read runs with power and gets low to the ground. Then in the cons column they’ll say sometimes he isn’t as physical and runs too upright. Okay so maybe he’s not perfect in everything he does in life. LOL
Exactly. Just look at his game against UCLA last year when they had Kendricks & Jack….he had his way with them:
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/devontae-booker-vs-ucla-2014-2/
Unfortunately I was @ Huntsman just down the road from the game that night!
You could hear the fans going crazy all over Sat Lake!
Saying he had his way with them are strong words. His stats were really good, he picked up sever first downs in short yardage situations, and he seemed to be the focus of the winning drive, but I wouldn’t go so far as saying he had his way with them.
Something I did notice was he hung his QB out to dry on at least 3 occasions, by not doing what the QB expected. Either not turning around when he was an outlet or not doing what he was supposed to on the end around when lined up as a WR.
He’s very shifty and I’d call him a football player (someone who has a clue how to play the game like Landry).
What round would you take him in?
I was reading up on Miles Killebrew. He could be the enforcer type in the secondary, while Jones plays CF. That could be a good combo.
Yeppp, that’s what I’m thinkin, Killabrew knocks folks into the past (what a hitter)!!