It has come to my attention that the Dolphins may not have a draft entirely compromised of linebackers.
In fact, maybe they use free agency to address linebacker.
Well, that thought hurts me deep in my pulsarspheres…but it’s a fact I have to accept.
So in my sadness I turned to an Earth Movie to wash away my troubles – Tombstone
A great movie about Wyatt Earp and his companions taking on the Cowboy known as –
Emmanuel Ogbah!
Wyatt Earp came to the town of Tombstone and became the lawman of Tombstone.
But little did Earp know that a Cowboy from Nigeria would also come to town.
Earp thought the best way to preserve law and order was a high octane passing game.
Ogbah had different ideas as to what was right for Tombstone.
The 6’4, 274 pound Cowboy tallied 10 sacks in 2014 and 12.5 in 2015.
He was pass rushing beast at Oklahoma State ruining Earp’s plan to rule the West with that ariel attack.
And when Ogbah gets to the quarterback, well he doesn’t exactly tickle the passer.
It helps that Ogbah is a fast big man. He ran a 4.63 in the 40 yard dash!
I’ve seen Ogbah compared to NFL pass rushers like Charles Johnson, Datone Jones and Vinnie Curry.
Some scouts think he might be a better run stopper than a pass rusher because he is not known for his explosiveness.
But I say to quarterbacks “Tell them Ogbah’s coming, and hell is coming with him!”
Im my version of Tombstone, the Cowboy buries all the lawmen.
Okay, I took a few liberties with this version of Tombstone. But I think you know where I am going with this.
If Ogbah was an Alien Weapon of Destruction. Well in this case its more of a memorial….
Check out his highlights here
Finsmob Unleashed 
LMAO at the political discussion going on in here. BTW I have been around for awhile, been having some med probs but they are sorted now. Really disappointed Ken doesn’t like cricket, it’s an iconic game and much larger than baseball. Your political system really and truly sucks! Attack me over that I’m ready to banter with you all.
Welcome back uwantwat
Good to see you again
Have not*
I am with Montgomery Brewster vote for none of the above!
Fanspeak updated rankings & here’s how my draft fell:
8: R1P8
OLB MYLES JACK
UCLA
42: R2P11
DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE
OLE MISS
73: R3P10
OLB SCOOBY WRIGHT
ARIZONA
108: R4P9
G JOSHUA GARNETT
STANFORD
147: R5P8
ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN
MISSISSIPPI STATE
189: R6P11
CB JAMES BRADBERRY
SAMFORD
225: R7P6
WR KEYARRIS GARRETT
TULSA
229: R7P10
DE ALEX MCCALISTER
FLORIDA
This is the best mock EVER!!!!
LOL… I could live with it😂
LMAO @ Uwantwat. Give me good ol American Baseball any day.
I would nominate Bob Ross for President. Though he passed on in 1995, he’s still a better choice than the current
crapcrop of candidates.I’m going to do what I did in the last election
just vote or a 3rd party candidate (I voted libertarian last time)
just to bring up the volume of 3rd candidate votes
My state is as blue as a smurf anyway
so if I voted for either republican or democrat it means nothing, the electoral votes control and those will go to the democrat
NJ is really not much different
I hate to break it to NJ, NY, CT & CA guys on this blog – but your vote means nothing
So why not use it to attack the 2 party system by bringing of the volume of a 3rd party
FLA voters here can have an impact by voting republican or democrat
There are a few more state out there that matter
but most don’t
Totally true Piggy – I’ve already said if Bloomberg runs, I’m going to vote for him.
Ultimately
if some one lives in a state that is traditionally red or blue
they have no effect on the election
I wish we had a popular vote instead
You vote counts more in NY than it does in Cali. Republican might as well be a dirty word there.
Appears as if Bloomberg is not going to run though. Shame . . .
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h86/msully555/icons/I%20made/bearfucker.gif?t=1279681363
Hey there….bear…bear fucker….Do you need assistance.
One of my more favorite lines from that movie.
RIP George Kennedy
Liked the inclusion of Beniquez Brown Piggy. I think he is going to be a solid player. 5th round would be a pretty great value for him as well.
He has been said to be not far off from Benardrick McKinney.
Piggy, ahh a popular vote, now there’s a novel idea. You mean the candidate that has the most citizens vote for him wins?
That would be pretty popular I’m sure, then the people’s voice would have been heard many times before and some of our presidents would be different fellows, like Gore & Romney.
Sadly we’ll see another presidential ‘Selection’ go the way of the mysterious & dubious delegates, super delegates, & electorial’s. 😯
Imagine have every person in a democracy have a vote of equal value
Piggy I see where you are doing your scouting reports again. I note that this year it is all DEF and no samurais or RBs. Why is that? Surely there must be one or two samurais around.
Hey there Crocodile Dundee, good to see ya back.
No real samurai’s this year, especially that we really need in any rounds below 5th with our defensive and OL needs.
Treadwell is the top WR. If he is sitting there @ #8, then it could lure a real nice trade down.
RIP George – He was in one of my favorite movies ever. “Cool Hand Luke”
Yeah, he was in so many, great supporting role actor. RIP big fella!
The New York Daily News’ Ebenezer Samuel “figures” the Giants will “at least call” free agent LE Mario Williams.
The Giants desperately need pass-rush heat, and that was an area of concern before starting DEs Jason Pierre-Paul and Robert Ayers were even set to hit the free-agent market.
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OV goes, then we can consider Mario, but he’ll likely be over paid yet again.
Bet he wouldnt be more over-paid than Vernon. Williams next contract is going to be less than Vernon’s
Right, and I’d consider him, but as mentioned Cap friendly & DE needy teams like the Giants will likely outpay what we can afford. But, we’ll soon see next week.
No More Arrests for Public Boozing, Urinating in NYC…
Piggy, you’re free at last, free at last.
I’ve been drinking and peeing in the streets all morning!
getterdone says:
March 2, 2016 at 10:43 am
He has been said to be not far off from Benardrick McKinney.
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Some of his playing traits are higher than McKinney TBH, i think he has a better motor, i think he is more aggressive, but he just doesn’t have the size McKinney has.
cool, certainly worth a later round looksie.
G’day GD, good to be around again. My plan for the draft is simple, BPA this year in the 1st 2 rounds, if it is an OL so be it. I don’t get the love for LBs. We have 2 good ones who are young in Hewitt and Jenkins. Vigil is no slouch either. I FA ILB and we are set. Let OV walk and re-sign Moore and Coples, keep DFF he ain’t costing us anything to get. Wake on a reduced contract and we draft 1. Get a reasonably priced OG and let the young continue to compete. Hell, I even sound like I know something.
Hey my friend, glad you’re back on the path to reasonable health.
Dion FF is actually costing a Cap hit of $6.2M if we keep him in his final year of the rookie deal. That’s what a 3rd overall will do to ya. You can’t come up bust on those guys…ugh!
Moore & Coples are likely depth at best. Great to see Wake recovering so fast. but yes, he needs to restructure, and he’s probably best suited to just be a passing down only DE at his age.
So I think we need to sign a solid DE in FA (OV or someone else) & yes I want to draft a young stud DE within the first couple rounds.
Guys like Fede 7 McPain need to wake up this camp or be gone by cut down!
Fede & McCain, my dan shit key doesn’t work sometimes….lol
LOL, my damn shift key….sheesh
Fede and McCain are pretty safe i think just due to them being talented and cheap. Im pretty sure they will at very least make it to camp, though its possible that a guy like McCain specifically will have to show more than some of the later round /UDFA rookies to stick. I think he has a disadvantage of being on the roster now for a couple years with no production. A lot might change though depending on how the new staff schemes our defense and if they think more of him as a DE over LB. I really dont see McCain as a SLB prospect, i think that was poor coaching personally.
GD, we released Coples. Rumors are he will sign with Carolina.
Id take a stab at re-signing him. I like him over Shelby as a depth guy. Id offer 2.5mil maybe even 3, on a 1 year show me and id even guarantee most of it. He showed well enough last year to be considered a solid backup.
Nevermind, i liked him more because i liked the idea of a young guy, but even though Shelby seems like he has been with us FOREVER, he is only 26. Sign Shelby for the 2-3mil per contract.
He didn’t really do anything for us or the Jets last year. He had just 8 tackles with the Jets in 9 games and 0 with us in 6. No sacks.
D, Shelby has shown more production than Coples. I’d try to resign him cheap too.
Piggy, I hear ya on the electoral vote. That’s one of the reasons I voted 3rd party as well. My vote gets swallowed up by the Democrats anyway.
If there is a 3rd party i like i vote for them, but im a really strong believe in supporting who you want to and not voting just to vote and not voting for someone just because they arent someone else. That just seems silly to me and i take my vote more seriously than that, to me its like a personal endorsement of the candidate.
If I liked a candidate I’d vote for them. I’m still not sure what I’m going to do.
Crikey Tim, I know we released Coples, but I was replying to ‘down under’
That makes me uncomfortable, are you coming on to Uwant?
LOL, noooo! I was gonna post a Steve Irwin meme, but say that one and it made me laugh. Uwant can’t keep up with me….lol
Coples really didnt have an opportunity to put up massive stats. NY got a guy who made him irrelevant even as a backup, we got him late int he year and then just used him as rotation. From what i saw of him when he was out there i felt good about him contributing for us.
Now having said that, my feeling on him over Shelby was simply a idea that i was thinking Shelby was like 28-30 and it was just time to move on and let a young guy show us what he could do. Turns out though when i checked on it Shelby is just 26 and yes he has shown more production, so i definitely think i would keep Shelby over Coples now. The stats dont really do much for me because stats can lie, and stats in a 3-4 definitely dont say anything about potential production in a 4-3. Im not sure though that Shelby wont get offers that puts him out of our desired range. He can probably start for some teams, but for us he is a backup and paying him like a starter to play as a backup would be dumb.
Good stuff, but we are now thin @ DE, so if we pay him, it could be with the thought that he can start here. Let him battle with the rookie DE we draft.
D says:
March 2, 2016 at 10:35 am (Edit)
Liked the inclusion of Beniquez Brown Piggy. I think he is going to be a solid player. 5th round would be a pretty great value for him as well.
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If nothing more
He looks like a good athlete
uwantwat says:
March 2, 2016 at 10:47 am (Edit)
Piggy I see where you are doing your scouting reports again. I note that this year it is all DEF and no samurais or RBs. Why is that? Surely there must be one or two samurais around.
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There is an upciming report (it will publish in the next couple of weeks) on Arab Jordan Howard if Indiana
Before it’s said and done I might work a samurai in
But I’m not impressed with the WR group as a whole
And I don’t think we need to draft one
Take a closer look at Keyarris Garret.
So there’s people who think Darron Lee is a first round LB? I’m glad he’s fast, but I don’t like him at all.
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/darron-lee-vs-michigan-state-2015/
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/705067003371876352
I bet they’d like an Austrailian Kiss 😛
I think there is a good chance we draft Shaq Lawson at #8. I also see some have us taking GD’s guy Dodd.
I like Dodd better than Lawson, but I think the team needs to grab a few DEs and he qualifies as one.
Hey hey, I got company. Kool!
Dodd is going to be very good. Lawson is right there with him, but I just give the edge to Dood.
Why do you like Dodd better?
Tim, Mike, Piggy, D, here ya guys go….
Former Minnesota governor Jesse Ventura says he will consider running for President as an independent if Hillary Clinton becomes the Democratic nominee over Bernie Sanders.
But if he does run, then it likely steals votes from Trump, ensuring a Billary victory.
Tim,
I like Dodd better as a 4-3 rush end because he has better hand use & can string moves on top of each other. His first step off the edge is quicker and he’s sound setting the edge by locking out OL. Shaq I see more as a 3-4 OLB. He’s inconsistent with his hand use although he has good power. He has a hellacious spin move, but that’s about it. He will inconsistently get into the OL chest, but he wins when he does. I like Shaq as a LB more than Dodd, but like Dodd as 4-3DE much more.
“right to rise” war chest won’t allow Trump to get nomination. Hell, Trump only has 316 delegates, Cruz has 226 and Rubio has 106 delegates. To win the nomination you need 1237. Fernandez (big whale)has promised full page ads against Trump. 1764 delegates are still available with the remaining states. Florida is a take all 99 delegates. “right to rise” pac has many heavy hitters that won’t allow Trump to succeed.I heard last night Trump has only spent 26 million and his money is coming from a loan from himself. Now how does that work?
That’s the guy you want to run a country fiscally sound.
anybody but Trump.
Here’s some tidbits. In this article they report “The Dolphins have told people they are now inclined to keep linebacker Koa Misi because he’s versatile and grades out well against the run.”
So Misi may get another shot to MLB.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2016/03/how-dolphins-hope-to-upgrade-their-defense-boshheat-personnel-update-top-player-who-could-be-eligibl.html
Much to my chagrin
Can’t replace him until we have someone to replace him with.
I think a sloth is a suitable replacement. It is certainly quicker than Misi
Its probably a decision that they settle in on after draft shapes up and they either have or have not addressed it there. Just because he stays through FA doesnt mean he stays. If they extend him though or roll up more of his contract into guaranteed money then thats when you will know he is here for the foreseeable future.
I think DE at 8 would be a real bad decision considering the depth of that position this year. It would be like missing out on a top CB or OT to get the same level player you could have got in the 2nd. Im not saying some of these guys arent worth an 8th overall, im saying its not a good strategy
Based on what I just posted it says CB and specifically Hargreaves is on our radar so you might be right.
Sounds like we brought Jones back:
@_SportsTrust: Congratulations to Christion Jones (@jonessboyy) on signing with the @MiamiDolphins! https://t.co/sVdEwaTmsu
He’s a really talented return man, and not bad at WR. Id like for him to stick, his returns are electric and id sure like to take some of that responsibility off out top offensive guy.
He’d replace Hazel if healthy.
Ken, come on Misi isn’t that slow.
Especially for a guy who’s never healthy😂
That is an issue for sure.
Maybe they are talking him up and a desire to keep him to angle for trade value.
I’d say it’s more that we need him because we’re thin at LB.
I’m enjoying a late business lunch now
i.e. a tax write off
Just bc they keep Misi doesn’t mean he won’t be replaced by a draftee
I would much rather keep Misi then bring an FA LB in
We can draft LBs to groom or to even unseat a vet as a rookie if they are good enough
I don’t see keeping Misi as a problem
But I would say relying on him to play at a top tier level for 16 games is a problem
Why are you against bringing in a proven LB through FA when we need LBs? Why not add them through both FA and the draft and upgrade the position?
I’m not against it
But I think in order to bring top talent you need to draft
Of course you might end up drafting busts
But the real future of our team is the draft
And we need to draft better
And that’s he bottom line
Brining in low costs FA is a safety net
But it’s not a long term solution
You just have to draft well
And we haven’t done that
We need to start
Tim, my problem with Misi is i dont think he is the best we can do at starter. There are better guys in FA that can be had for less money per year, and then you have draft. Misi is one of those guys i would a very top tier backup/rotational guy. He isnt going to embarrass you when he is out there but he isnt going to wow you either.
My problem with him is his yearly salary doesnt match the value he is to us. Id be willing to re-negotiate with him, extend him, give him more guaranteed money to lower his cap hit to something more reflective of a backup, but i really dont feel like keeping him at his current salary unless we just have nothing to replace him with, and to me that would be us not trying to wind up in that spot.
Maybe he needs to be looked at more like Wake, restructure, get the cap hit down, use him more sparingly to increase the likelihood he last they whole year.
He’s average
But he’s consistently average
Average is better than bad. He’s also an above average run defender.
I don’t disagree but we don’t have his replacement yet so gutting the position wouldn’t be smart. We’re already thin at DE and CB as well. You replace players through competition, not cutting everyone beforehand.
Yeah Pig…..what’s your problem😂
I have Scooby Wright/Myles Jack eyes
I see no other solution
Misi again? You must be joking . . . If we can’t find a freaking upgrade for Misi, we can’t do anything. It’s unbelievable. Cut him and restructure him and keep him for depth, but please don’t say he’s starting.
What would you do if you don’t have his replacement in-house yet? I can’t understand what some of you guys are thinking? We’re thin at DE, LB and CB at the moment and until the market opens you can’t keep getting rid of players or we’re not going to just have upgrade needs but holes and you never want to have too many holes. LOL
There are like 10 positions that we have to upgrade, so why is MLB so special? We need a starting CB that we don’t have, we need a starting DE that we don’t have, and we need 2 LB’s a MLB and a SLB if we like Jenkins. I mean, we can keep all the same players as starters from last year if we want to go 6-10 again. It’s not like MLB is such a difficult position to fill.
A player a lot of teams are debating is Noah Spence. He’s considered a top 10 talent but he has some red flags.
Tim
I said to restructure Misi and keep him as depth. I didn’t say get rid of him outright.
Well you said cut him but re-sign him so you’re still attacking the roster. OV is out there, Miller is out there as well as some others so all I’m saying is you don’t want that NEED list to get longer or you could find yourself with too many voids on the roster. You can only expect 3-4 rookies to really make an impact and sometimes 1-2 of them are mostly on STs. So we have to add some proven NFL talent to patch some holes or upgrade and then add through the draft. We can’t expect to land 10-12 upgrades in one offseason. You hope you can add 7-8.
We don’t have a lot needs on offense but we do have specific needs at guard as well. So heading into FA and then the draft we already need probably two DEs (depth), two LBs and at least one top CB or maybe two if we move on from Grimes. Then we need to upgrade guard, backup tackle and possibly TE and RB. So let’s not thin the roster so quickly. Let them compete.
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Look, I don’t care if we keep Misi, but they sure as hell better be looking to upgrade over him, rather than feeling content with Misi as the starter.
I agree
You can even pencil him as the starter
But we’ve been don this road before
And he’s not getting our defense to the next level
But neither is an open roster spot that hasn’t been filled.
Tim Knight says:
March 2, 2016 at 2:56 pm
I don’t disagree but we don’t have his replacement yet so gutting the position wouldn’t be smart. We’re already thin at DE and CB as well. You replace players through competition, not cutting everyone beforehand.
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I dont have plans of gutting it, but i would be looking to either replace him or restructure his contract.
Misi is just under a $5M cap hit. Restructure his number, and then we can either bring in a FA at a different position, and then draft a MLB, or bring in a MLB to compete with him. I’d prefer the former.
Yeah thats exactly what i was saying, restructure so his cap number reflects a backup/rotational players salary. i think 3-3.5 per, incentives something like 3 years 10 mil, 7 guaranteed.
per, with incentives i meant.
Mike and D, I’m pretty sure we’re not content at LB. I think what that article stated was more what I’m saying, that they need Misi right now because they don’t have his replacement.
And he gives you familiarity and stability in the unit. His leadership would be worth something to me, i just dont think his salary fits his position any longer. Also id have some decent incentive bonuses to give him a chance to enhance that.
He’s paid like an average vet LB. Right now he’s a starter and $4.8M or whatever it is, is not crazy money. I mean is OV that much more of an impact player than Misi and he’s looking for 3 times that albeit at DE/pass rusher? I think OV is the better player and we know what OV is, but we went 6-10 with him too.
Not matching a big offer for OV, restructuring Wake, Suh, & maybe Grimes, plus the cuts of guys like Jennings, Dion FF Sheppard, etc., will put Miami in good shape to look at FA’s for OG/OT, LB, DE, or a DB, as well as hopefully resigning Millertime.
Then draft the rest. 2016 here We Come!
You gotta treat the 12mil plus that the transition tag has attached to it as if you will have to honor it. so there is 12mil there ou wont be able to play with in FA unless someone very early makes better offer to Vernon. I dont know if it happens.
I think the transition tag was done knowing that A) they could afford to pay him $12M & still accomplish other FA goals.
B) that if a team lures OV for more money, then they’d have even more to work with & a contingency there with talks they may have had with some agents.
Sheppard is a UFA so no need to cut him. Michael Thomas who was our starting safety is also a UFA so there is another void. See what’s happening here, our void list gets longer and longer.
Ok, I thought Sheppard, it must be another vet I was thinking of.
Right now we are over cap and we have to be at or under it by time the league year starts.
March 9th, one week from today.
Tim as a frame of reference he is making Rey Mauluga, DQwell Jackson, Paul Posluszny, Steven Tulloch type money….he’s no where near those guys in productivity.
He got his contract as an OLB so that’s what his scale is.
Ok then he’s 7th highest salary there…. higher ranked than he would be as MLB
Tim
It’s not so much that OV makes that much more of an impact (I think he does though), it’s the position he plays, and the fact that he’s 25 YO is what’s going to get him paid. It’s a premium position (As you know), and he’s one of the best FA’s at that position at this moment. It’s all timing.
I said albeit and that OV was the better player. But people make it seem like Misi is making a mint and he really isn’t.
It’s not that he’s making a mint, he’s just not a productive player, and therefore, he’s being paid too much. He hasn’t managed to play 16 games yet in 6 seasons, and when he’s on the field, he’s just OK. Not an impact player at all.
Tim Knight says:
March 2, 2016 at 3:47 pm
Sheppard is a UFA so no need to cut him. Michael Thomas who was our starting safety is also a UFA so there is another void. See what’s happening here, our void list gets longer and longer.
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Those are the types of voids that are easy to turn over, those are the same type of roster churns you see every year.
Yes but if you keep trimming it gets longer.
Based on what I’ve read nationally is that OV is going to get offers from teams with the cap to do it for a young pass rusher who still may have more upside. That’s how he’s being viewed even though we as fans know OV is good not great. I expect him to come back to us with offers of 5 years $60+M minimum. With the other high priced guys we have, does OV back at those kinds of numbers make us better?
I’d replace him with Shaq Lawson at #8 and they’re similar players, even though Lawson hasn’t proven anything yet, but his projection is good. Then use that money on a LB, CB and G in FA.
No way we sign OV with those type of numbers. I can’t believe we entertained numbers close to that in the first place.
Tim:
Just because Misi’s replacement isn’t on the roster yet doesn’t mean we are obliged to keep him. Many times players are let go knowing that either in FA or the draft you will upgrade the position
Okay, let’s look at it.
Jenkins, Hewitt, Vigil, Hull, James-Michael Johnson and Terrell Manning.
Tim Knight says:
March 2, 2016 at 3:34 pm (Edit)
But neither is an open roster spot that hasn’t been filled.
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So would you feel comfortable if they say Dallas Thomas is the starting LG next season, or Jamar Taylor is the starting RCB? Why bother saying it, if you’re planning on upgrading?
They have to earn it. I think Taylor can still rebound but I’m losing faith in Thomas. Misi is better than both of them though.
OK, so you think Misi has earned the right to be the starter. That’s where we differ greatly.
Poor Timya 😉
If Tunsil, Jack, and Ramsey are gone, Hargreaves needs to be the pick at #8. Worse nightmare would be for all 4 to be gone, which could very well happen. It happened to me on first-pick the other day.
What about Ronnie Stanley?
Stanley would probably be my next option after Hargreaves. If he was also gone, I would try and trade down. I don’t think there are any DE worthy of a top 10 pick.
Mike, I’m not debating what Misi is, I’m talking about roster implications. I just posted what our LBs look like without Misi. He starts over all of them as of right now with Jenkins.
OK, no big deal. We have plenty of time to see how we shape our roster, most things they say about the roster now are just blowing smoke anyway.
Tim:
Misi’s replacement is not on the roster but that does not mean we need to keep him until we get a replacement. He is overpaid and lacks physical talent. He will be replaced.
He lacks, but not physicality.
I hope we do upgrade the LB position. All I’m saying is I agree with the team to wait until you do. I don’t like gutting positions especially ones we’re already thin at.
Cincy’s FA LB’s Vincent Rey & Emmanuel Kamur were making $3M & $2M respectively.
Jets FA LB Demario Davis was @ $1.6M
Sean Weatherspoon $3.8M
Jerrell Freeman $2.3M
These are a few of the LB’s we could be looking at.
I’d say that Cincy connection is definitely something to keep your eye on.
Mike, Misi wins a starting job every year, not sure what you’re trying to say? My point is we do not have an upgrade over him yet. I’ve even mentioned that he could be cut but the article I posted makes the point that the team feels they don’t have enough LBs better so they’re not gonna release him, at least not now. That’s all the discussion was about, not what Misi is as a player, we all know what he is. I’m not talking him up, I’m talking about depth.
My must have sleeper draft pick has woken up the NFL GM’s.
Maryland CB/S Sean Davis had a 99-percent similarity score with Eric Rowe based on Combine athletic testing.
Rotoworld’s Josh Norris says the 99-percent similarity score is the highest he’s ever seen (typically, a strong comparison begins at around the 85th-percentile or so). Since both Davis and Rowe have extensive experience at both corner and safety, the comp is all the more interesting. The 6-foot-1, 201-pound Davis (31⅜” arms) ran a 4.46 forty in Indy and also posted a 6.64 3-cone, 3.97 20-year shuttle, 37½” vertical and 126″ broad jump. For the record, his doppelgänger Rowe went No. 47 to the Eagles last spring. Davis had late Day 3 projections coming into the process, but perhaps his showing in Indy will move the needle a bit.
Looks like a good prospect.
Him & Jones as the Dynamic Duo’s @ Safeties!
What would you do at #8, if this were the first 7 players picked…
1.Tunsil-OT
2. Bosa-DE
3. Buckner-DL
4. Jack-OLB
5. Ramsey-DB
6. Stanley-OT
7. Hargreaves-CB
8. ???
…it happened to me the other day on first-pick.
I traded down and picked Ragland at #12.
I’d go Lawson or another pass rusher. I’d love Spence’s talent too but he has some red flags. The same with Nkemdiche.
Yeah, ya got to pass on Spence & Nkemdiche…too much concern there, and we are still smarting from Dion FF!
I love the depth of the DE in this draft, just not in the top half of the first round. Maybe on a trade down, but I would rather grab a guy on day 2.
Overall, I would rank the positions in this draft as follows…
1a. DL
1b. DB
3. OL
4. LB
5. RB
Not really impressed with the WRs or TEs in this draft. (Except for Hunter Henry)
At least it plays right into our team needs of defense and O-line.
Raglan or Spence
Tim if you compare Misi’s salary to the OLB’s he ranks even higher, he’s 7th largest OLB salary, do you think he’s the 7th best OLB?
No not at this time but his contract was done in 2013. Some of the other LBs who haven’t been paid for their production yet are still on rookie contracts. All I’m saying is $4.9M for a starting LB isn’t outrageous.
Again, Jenkins, Hewitt, Vigil, Hull, James-Michael Johnson and Terrell Manning. I like the first three and I’d like to add two more – one from FA and one from the draft along with Misi and let them compete.
Piggy talks up Scooby and I think Misi beats him out. Misi is bigger and faster and has proven experience. So I sometimes don’t understand the thinking that goes on here.
I want to get more athletic at LB so Misi really doesnt fit my mold, or what i think is going to be the mold of the team since Joseph comes from the Bengals who run an aggressive LB scheme with athletic guys who can really get to the ball. He would be an ok backup however because even in that kind of scheme he isnt a complete liability, he just wont excel.
As for Scooby, i too am not a big fan, though i think what Piggy sees is a guy with great instincts, who pre-play reads and reacts well to what the offense is showing. Those are characteristics i think would make him better than Misi who i do not think ha s great instincts at the position. Again, he’s ok, but just average.
At MLB I think Wright, Brothers, & Ragland would all beat Misi out for that spot. I think Misi’s a SOLB at this point in his career & a solid one…..when healthy.
Morrison was sick, thats why he wasnt at combine. I have been searching for why he didnt show up and i just found where they said he was sick and wouldnt have done well had he pushed himself through it.
BTW i also found this about what people think of McCallister. Again, he has talent, he put up some decent combine number, but you have to do your research into his maturity issue to know if ya feel he is worth the risk.
“Overview: ESPN writes that “scouts are concerned with McCalister’s raw skill set and character concerns after he was dismissed from the team late last season,” but the combine helped his cause. McCalister has the longest arms of any of the defensive linemen in this year’s draft class and he set a combine record in the 20-yard shuttle. This should help his draft stock. McCalister has been given a seventh-round grade by CBS Sports.:
dbolt48 says:
March 2, 2016 at 4:52 pm
At MLB I think Wright, Brothers, & Ragland would all beat Misi out for that spot. I think Misi’s a SOLB at this point in his career & a solid one…..when healthy.
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Depends on your scheme if you do a lot of blitzing with SOLB, then he really doesnt get the job done. If you are looking for a guy who runs with TE’s and RB’s in coverage, also not going to really do that well. He will below average blitzer and an a about average coverage guy. I just dont think thats how Joseph is going to play. Misi is probably best in the MLB spot in a scheme that plays more containment than aggressive play. He is a role player kind of LB, and helps round out a solid unit but he isnt a playmaker.
agree on scheme dependent
I agree on “He is a role player kind of LB, and helps round out a solid unit but he isnt a playmaker.” That’s what I want him to be at a reduced salary.
But at this time he’s a starter, I don’t want to cut ties with him or ask him to reduce his salary and/or role until we have the pieces to go there.
rgs322 says:
March 2, 2016 at 4:27 pm
What would you do at #8, if this were the first 7 players picked…
1.Tunsil-OT
2. Bosa-DE
3. Buckner-DL
4. Jack-OLB
5. Ramsey-DB
6. Stanley-OT
7. Hargreaves-CB
8. ???
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If the scenario is no trade partner i take Ragland, maybe McKenzie Alexander
Again, I want to get more speed and athleticism at LB too.
rgs, as for depth at DE just remember they’re going to go through the first round and early 2nd so by the time we get to #42 6-7 maybe more will be gone, so the depth is starting to go to the next tier. You have to have passing rushing DEs in a 4-3 or you have to blitz a lot and you don’t want to have to rely on that.
At this point im basing a lot of assumptions off the defense at Cincy, which they have hinted around being a likely model for what we do in Miami and an offense that they have heavily suggested will look like what Gase has run previously. Given that i would think Miller would be a pretty perfect fit for our offense but i still dont think they re-sign him unless the price is right. He probably has teams out there willing to do 6-7mil per type of contract, but i dont think we chase that far. I dont doubt their interest in him though.
I think the transition tag for Vernon is telling him, this is where our line is, this is what we want as a contract number, you are willing to seek more but this is our line. I dont think we match any deal that gives him more.
I think at CB they are going to look for more press corners, and i think in the draft the best one is Hargreaves. Janoris Jenkins plays that way so they still might make him an offer, though i dont think it will be as big as i think GD was suggesting he was looking for. There seems to be some competition in the FA CB market so who knows, but i think PacMan (which i think is a horrible idea) will be a guy they look at and i think Grimes is a dead man walking. Press is his weakest suit and his off man coverage (strength) is slipping.
I think there are no perfect fits at MLB in FA. So i think they either seek out an starting caliber OLB in FA and probably a depth guy that can play in the middle, maybe someone like Rey who could start for us or compete for starting spot and then they draft a guy to compete as well. I think Rey would be cheaper and more effective in an agressive scheme than Misi.
I think Reggie Nelson would also be a pretty solid pickup and even though he had an awesome year last year, i think he comes pretty affordable, as he is 32 and i dont think many teams will invest a large contract on him. Still it may be that they run a one in the box one deep safety formation and if so its possible we go for more true strong safety, one who can blitz and lay the lumber on run plays. If so i think we look on the opposite side of him at Iloka and possibly a guy like Killebrew as a draft pick.
Dbolt, I’m not even sure Scooby has the athletic ability to make it in the NFL. He looked horrible in drills. He’s not beating out Misi for anything.
To me because of his instincts he’d be best as the Will in a 3-4 where he can be protected and free to track the ball. He’s not a range guy. He needs to play in his lanes.
I like Matakevich more than i do Scooby. Similar level as far as instincts same kind of limitation.
I’m much more impressed with Matakevich than Scooby. He’s just as instinctive/productive and a better athlete at the same size. I think Matakevich goes 3rd rd and Scooby later rounds.
I think he’s fine. Your putting too much into the combine. It’s like saying Brothers will struggle because of his combine. He’s still a 4-3 MLB to me & Ill stick to my guns that he’s a better one than Misi. Just my opinion of course…I don’t like Darron Lee at all and most see him as a 1st rounder especially after his combine.
From what i have seen on tape Killebrew is this years Jaquiski Tartt, a guy i really liked for us last year.
Kevin Dodd or Noah Spence….. To me its splitting hairs on ability and therefore the risk reward is higher with Dodd.
DE makes a lot of sense.
Like both guys a lot!
If both fall to the 2nd round which do you take?
Spence. I think he’s just more explosive and can play OLB in a 3-4 if we transition to that.
I doubt we move to 3-4, our defensive guys come from 4-3, we have players who suited for 4-3. Its not outside the realm of possibilities we could eventually shift, but im hoping not because that means we failed again and got a new defensive coordinator lol
Your score is: 7308 (GRADE: A-)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8: Jalen Ramsey, FS/CB, Florida State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 11: Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson (A)
Round 3 Pick 10: Sebastian Tretola, OG, Arkansas (B+)
Round 4 Pick 11 (NYG): Kenyan Drake, RB, Alabama (A-)
Round 5 Pick 8: Antonio Morrison, ILB, Florida (A-)
Round 6 Pick 9 (NYG): Rashard Robinson, CB, LSU (A)
Round 6 Pick 11: Dadi Lhomme Nicolas, OLB, Virginia Tech (A-)
Round 7 Pick 6: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida (A)
Round 7 Pick 10: Avery Young, OT, Auburn (B-)
Aerosmith wrote a song… LOL
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/705125754930130945
I dont know how true this is but if it is it is just more fucked up of a pussification of society we live in. how is this kid not punished. if i am this lady’s wife i am going to tell this kid to watch out when he turns 18 and can be beat down like an adult. hell if i was this kids dad, i would make sure he paid for this one way or another myself.
how in the world shit like this happens is beyond me, how can people not have common sense
http://brobible.com/life/article/teacher-pressured-student-fired/
It’s our society. Criminals are treated like they’re the victim.
The noose on Trump is getting tighter by Norman Braham, Doral PGA tournamnent, and city of Doral.City says next year it isn’t going to approve doral event, Norman Braham cadillac sponsor won’t back racist. N.Braham is big whale of Rubio campaighn.
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/705099022382571520
https://twitter.com/MDCheer/status/705165148135276545
A lot of it depends on Suh’s feeling about a 3-4. He’s a franchise player for us.
dbolt48 says:
March 2, 2016 at 6:17 pm
It’s our society. Criminals are treated like they’re the victim.
yep, and it is worse then the criminals are like this punk kid. then they are not blamed when this kids needs his ass kicked real good.
My wife being a HS teacher sees it all the time.
School administrators with the backing of the school boards force teachers to accept assignments from previous marking periods without docking kids. No accountability what so ever.
Common core testing…students who hardly ever show up to school fail these tests and the teachers get the blame in their reviews.
This is a really good read….
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/03/01/nfl-combine-miami-dolphins-formal-interview-quarterback
Sad
Roddy white cut. Somewhat surprised but I had heard a rumor it might happen about a month back
dbolt
it is sad. just more the pussification of this country. i have two nieces just starting out teaching and i just feel for them. just not a good thing with people are not held to standards and just rewarded for not trying.
ok sorry to distract. i know you guys love talking about what next young strapping young man is going to get your hopes all up i a tissy. now back to your regular, this guy is our savior, bust
I’m shocked that GDP is a trump supporter 😀
I just hope he doesn’t want to make America “white” again like trump.
The combine quarterback read that D posted above, 2 attributes kept coming up, competitive guys who love football. Don’t think Landry had anything to do with that do you?
BoulderPhinfan says:
March 2, 2016 at 7:01 pm
I’m shocked that GDP is a trump supporter 😀
I just hope he doesn’t want to make America “white” again like trump.
wow. now ok i get he is gonna make mexico pay for the wall but who the hell is going to pay for all that paint. and hopefully before he kicks out all those illegal mexicans he makes them pick up a brush and paint cause i know i am not. i am just going to sit back and take in all the money himary gets me from the rich.
LOL. Don’t forget the blacks,the Muslims and the poorly educated. They can all help paint the wall right before they’re kicked out.
All I know is that if Trump owned the Dolphins we’d be winning so much we’d want to lose so we don’t throw up 😀
That’s some serious propaganda. Can you add text to that? I have yet to hear these claims. Seriously, I’ve heard it before and have not heard it myself. Is there a link?
I could see OLB/DE Leonard Floyd jumping up in the 1st rd. He was bigger and more explosive than projected.
JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE after a nice chat with Young Stanger. Told him I had some VERY interesting news regarding my ticket location for the upcoming season. Seems as though SOMEONE IN THE ORGANIZATION found out I was less than pleased with the way Steve Ross doled out ticket locations to those fans who have bought season tix since the very early days of this franchise. The unexpected email told me to call “headquarters” and something would be done about MY seating location. –At the appointed time, I called and a sultry sounding young lady asked “How can we help you, Mr. C——-?” About this time I asked myself,”How would FinFanRob respond to such a leading question??”
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She then asked me”What area would you like to upgrade to?” I explained that my wife had major back surgery a month ago, and that my share was well into 5 figures for the amount NOT covered by Medicare. So I told her that by this time next year I may upgrade to a fancier, more expensive, location but, right now, the almost $3,000 I’ve already paid for my seats would have to do for this year. Long story short, she said “Where, exactly, in your section, would you like to sit?” –Again, visions of FFR’s possible answer were floating through my mind. But I said, “Row 30, seats 1 and 2 would be perfect.” She responded, “Would Row 30, seats 3 and 4 be OK?” –“Absolutely,” I responded. “Well,that certainly was easy, wasn’t it?” So, I took down her name and I’ll be SURE to call her next year if my wallet and my health will permit an upgrade to more expensive seating.–However, ANOTHER PERSON in the Dolphins ticket office has told me that all the tickets in my section are sure to cost more money next season, so STAYING WHERE I AM may be my “upgrade” for the 2017 season.
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ANYWAY, FFR, next time I run into you at Winn-Dixie, I’ll give you this chickee’s name. Perhaps you can coax her into “test-driving” one of Ross’s “Sofa Seats” between the 30 yard lines on the Dolphins’ side of the field?????? They’re ONLY about $1,000-$2,000 per seat per game!”
So OD is now a big fan of one Stephen Ross, go figure 😛
AFTER careful review, I said NO SUCH THING!! – – In fact, most of Ross’s fuck-ups are STILL in force and remain totally unchanged. But, at least, one issue MAY be in the process of being rectified, all be it at a very high price.
NFL to ban chop block on running plays. Something Wash. did to Suh a lot, speaking of pussification.
I’ve never liked it and always thought it was bush league. I know the ZBS uses it but it doesn’t need it. When you get right down to it it’s still man on man. It’s about talent.
YEP. And I EXPECT SUH to benefit from this significant rule change. NOW, if we can just eliminate the rule that says “Offensive holding is illegal unless it’s done by the Patriots!”
OD
i appreciate you thinking about me but i cant ‘test drive’ one of those seats. i am sure Lauren would see me and come over and want her turn. then tanny sees us during the game and would be all pissy about it and play a horrible game and then everyone on here would be fighting over he sucks he doesnt suck and it would be all my fault.
the damn sacrifices i make to keep the peace around here
WE ALL APPRECIATE YOUR SACRIFICES, FFR. –BTW, this girl has a VERY FRENCH name!!
Tim,
It sounds like you’re on the fence to vote for Trump or not. The fact that your contemplating voting for him tells me that no link is gonna change your mind. So why do you need a link? Just vote for him. As I said we’ll be winning so much with him as president that we’ll get sick of winning.
You can always try google for links. It usually does a good job.
Amazingly enough, the NFL has decided to keep the current catch rule in effect. That shocks me, that has to be the most ambiguous rule I’ve ever seen. No one is ever really sure either way when they review a catch with the current rule. I can’t believe they didn’t amend it. They should have just gone back to catch with 2 feet down, and it’s a catch, and any loss of possession after that is a fumble.
Mike E; Some year we’ll have to take in a Mets exhibition game in Port St. Lucie. I know it can still get cold in New Jersey in March. Maybe a Mets-Marlins game or a Mets-Washington game might work?? Highs usually in the 70’s down here this time of year.
Both Washington and Pittsburgh are said to be negotiating to split a new spring training facility that will be built somewhere between West Palm and Boca Raton in the next 3 years, per a recent story in the Palm Beach Post.
What exactly are you guys looking for in terms of bashing Trump
I’m your huckleberry….
LOL
LMAO @ Boulder, jetssuck like lambs led to slaughter buying into the smear campaigns against Trump.
He disavowed Duke many years ago & has recently about 14 times over the past 2 days.
But that’s all the hatchet job controlled media can talk about, vs. rather giving you real news of substance.
Hell yeah I’m back Trump. Any candidate that makes the international corporate controlled media stand on it’s ear, and makes global leaders squeal, as well as the elitist cabal of criminals currently running this country squeal. Hell even his own GOP party is plotting to take him out through a brokered convention, rather than get behind a guy that has the most sweeping popularity for a Republican since the 60’s.
Can’t you guys see the trees for the forest, or do you want more of the same donor class leaders selling our once great country abroad to the multi nationalist.
Stop voting with your eyes, yeah, Trump looks like a douche you wanna punch, and stop voting with your ears,yeah Trump sounds like a braggadocious bully, and yes your listening to the sell out media.
Do your homework, real homework, research what’s really behind about the other candidates.
…that or keep giving knee jerk reactions like low information parrots repeating the narratives to stop a guy that scares the global criminal cabal that’s fleecing the shit out of you, I and Americans everywhere! (well most Americans everywhere, unless you’re one of the .5%)
He very publicly refused to disavow David Duke just a few days ago
I posted the clip when it happened
You can see it as clear as day
He later blamed the ear piece on his response
I don’t know if he disavowed Duke, white supremecy, or the KKK since then
If you have a link – post it
even if he did, that comes off as disingenuous based on what I saw on live TV
at the time he demonstrated real hesitance to disavow any of the people groups
mind you, I don’t think he is racist, I just think he is happy to get the racist vote and did not want to disenfranchise racist votes
OD
That sounds great! I would love to do that someday.