The Wedge Scouting Report: Mackensie Alexander, CB

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Toots and Alexander are airtight and won’t let anything come between them and the receiver, including bombs!

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Alexander was one of the most highly ranked high school prospects coming out of high school.  He was talented then, he is talented now.

Toots won Space Ship Saver of the year last millennium.  And it still saves Space Ships!

Some think Alexander will be the first cornerback taken in the draft!  Some also think Toots will glue a moon to a planet!

Before the combine Alexander declared to the NFL “I am the best cornerback in the draft”…cocky, you bet!  True….maybe!

Cornerbacks need to be confident, and Mackensie certainly is.

And I am confident Toots will permanently glue anything it touches!

NCAA FOOTBALL: SEP 12 Appalachian State at Clemson

Guess how many interceptions Alexander had at Clemson…

The answer is ZERO.  Guess why?

Yep, you guessed it, no one dared to throw the ball near him.

Like Toots Superglue which never breaks down.  Toots is permanent and not safe for your kids to play with.

Alexander is true shutdown defensive back.  And Toots will kill your pets if they eat it!

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Alexander is yet another prospect with Florida roots, hailing from Immokalee Florida.

I don’t know where that is but its probably full of football fields.

Toots, on the other hands, is harnessed out of the semen of dead lifeforms!

At the combine Alexander didn’t run the 40 but or really any drills at all except the bench where he benched 225 pounds 11 times.

At the Saturn New Products Fair, Toots glued an alien’s tentacles to his own pancreas 11 times!

FBC: Russell Atheletic Bowl: Clemson vs. Oklahoma

 

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1,928 Responses to The Wedge Scouting Report: Mackensie Alexander, CB

  1. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Piggy’s Why I’m happy we kept the 4th rounder list

    LB – Scooby Wright
    LB Dion Jones
    LB Tyler Matakevich
    RB Jordan Howard
    CB – DJ White
    OG – Joshua Garnett (probably won’t last but wtf)

    There will be good football players in the 4th round
    trust the pork

  2. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    https://youtu.be/E4vGvrr9PzY

    bc I got the page turn

  3. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Piggy, Anderson never had high carries, 179 in 2014 is the most. He’s not really small, he’s short at 5-8 but he’s 225.

  4. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Jonathan Jones Verified account 
    ‏@jjones9
    Mackensie Alexander pro day numbers: 40- 4.40; no bench; vert- 37.5; broad- 10 ft, 1in; 3 cone L- 7.17

  5. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL @ D – That’s pretty funny, cause I thought you meant the Alabama CB, Cyrus Jones, who then is mentioned in the next breath by D-Bolt that he met with the Dolphins. Funny, right?

  6. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    so after 2 days who is going to be our #1 CB? maxwell? People don’t seem to think he suited for that. He’s more of a #2

    • sb7mvp's avatar sb7mvp says:

      It’s 2 days. Why does it matter?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      it might be our 1st round draftee

      We aren’t lining up to play this weekend
      I don’t think we need an answer to that question yet

      we need to use the entire offseason to bring in the most talent possible
      without causing long term harm to the salary cap

      I’m so glad we did not get pac man jones
      I guaranty that the players who have passed on signing with us like Hayes and Jones were really lowballed

      they ended up just resigning with their own team

  7. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    jetsssuck says:
    March 10, 2016 at 11:52 am
    Japan is our largest customer who was one of S.Arabia’s largest. We are taking care of our international partners. This is what makes the US the envy of all countries good or bad.
    Reply
    JS, I wouldn’t get too excited just yet. There will be a big push back from exporters of west african oil, russian oil, chinese, etc.
    I read before that the US imports / consumes, more than twice the amount it produces. So it will be hard to compete on a global scale, but it seems a step in the right direction, so we’ll see.

    The key is to curtail dependency of foreign oil coming in to a much lower amount, and then produce more oil for our own domestic consumption. Tip the scale more heavily here at home….IMO.

    • jetsssuck's avatar jetsssuck says:

      did you read the article? They lifted the oil export law in January so prices are gonna stay low or lower because we are increasing world supplies all along we are increasing US employment and we could become energy independent within 2-3 years if not sooner. The US doesn’t consume 2 times more than it produces. The Saudi’s are diversifying their business interest’s very quickly lately I read a article where one of the Saudi princes invested 1.8 Billion in Uber competitor.The scales have shifted at home to where we are very close to energy independent.We are not at the mercy of OPEC anymore and we are helping our global partners most notably Japan. We have more worldwide leverage also.

      http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=32&t=6

  8. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    I don’t think you have to have a #1 corner. As long as you have two competent corners who can match up for the most part you’re fine.

    • D's avatar D says:

      You dont, it more just a mindset people have had drilled into them for so long you think of WR’s and CB’s in certain ways. Its much more fluid than that.

  9. D's avatar D says:

    Your score is: 7609 (GRADE: B)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 13: Vernon Hargreaves III, CB, Florida (A-)
    Round 2 Pick 11: Vadal Alexander, OG/OT, LSU (B+)
    Round 3 Pick 10: Deion Jones, OLB, LSU (B)
    Round 4 Pick 9: Miles Killebrew, SS, Southern Utah (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 8: Kenyan Drake, RB, Alabama (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 11: Ronald Blair, DE, Appalachian State (A+)
    Round 7 Pick 6: Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida (A)
    Round 7 Pick 10: David Morgan II, TE, Texas-San Antonio (B-)

  10. New Age's avatar New Age says:

    For the sunshine crowd.

    http://www.footballperspective.com/draft-value-chart/

    This attempt at a different trade value for the draft shows that our trade down is only worth around a high 5th rounder. It says the JJ model is old and outdated for the modern NFL.

    I really hope we get Anderson on other topics lol.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      It really doesn’t matter because we valued Maxwell and Alonso as two players we wanted.

      I’m pretty sure our board has prospects from #8 thru #15 graded similarly and we’re fine taking any one on them so swapping down 5 spots wasn’t a big deal.

      If Maxwell, Alonso and our #13 are all starters and play well, that’s a WIN!!!

  11. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    9 News Denver’s Mike Klis reports restricted free agent C.J. Anderson was about to board a flight to Chicago to visit the Bears before jumping on a plane to visit the Dolphins on Thursday.
    Anderson received the call from Miami while he was at the airport, and got a new flight.

  12. D's avatar D says:

    wyoming85 says:
    March 10, 2016 at 12:32 pm
    Jonathan Jones Verified account 
    ‏@jjones9
    Mackensie Alexander pro day numbers: 40- 4.40; no bench; vert- 37.5; broad- 10 ft, 1in; 3 cone L- 7.17
    ——————————————-
    To some teams he’s better for them than Hargreaves, for others, Hargreaves is the better fit. I see both as equally talent but pretty hard to compare to one another since they arent the same style player.

    • D's avatar D says:

      Another thing i like about Hargreaves is he has an really infectious personality, this guy LOVE football and he LOVES the one on one competition between he and the receiver. Just watching him in warm-ups you get the vibe he loves all of it even the warm-up time, etc. He is out there having a good time. I want some of that on our team as well. Its similar to how Delmas is, he just has that infectious personality and drive, id have Delmas back just as a mentor.

      • dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

        Hargraves is a good fit for the locker room. I know he’s trying raise money for the wounded warrior fund.

  13. D's avatar D says:

    Anderson was impressive and he seemed to have that drive to be great or at least all those reports from him a couple years ago in Denver seems to say the guy just wont be kept off the field. Injuries did keep him off but when he got back out there he was shooting to get the Broncos back to believing in he couldn’t be kept off. I think he would be a good pickup, but if we dont get him i wouldnt bother much more in FA unless it was a depth guy. If we dont get Anderson we should move RB up as a priority and draft a guy 2nd or 3rd.

  14. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Piggy

    This guy has to be part of the odyssey

    https://twitter.com/Strange_Animals/status/684064277246824448

  15. D's avatar D says:

    New Age its really kinda dynamic, the value of the pick is completely dependent on the draft and its composition, some years moving that many points down pretty much takes you out of the running for anyone elite, other year 8 is as good as 13, and other years if you arent 1-5 you are as good at 8 at 42…. its just depending on how the draft lines up and where its heavy with talent. Last year for example there was a real heavy spot rounds 2-3, this year its got pockets. It also depends heavily on what positions you are targeting. OT if you want a this year starter is top 10, if its CB its probably also top 10, DT 1-3….seriosuly guys with similar values to ones that will be taken in early first round with ones that will be taken later 3rd, its that deep.

    Lots of factors go into it so you kinda just gotta let the team decide what to do and go, oh well they felt it was a good deal for them. I wasnt a fan of the trade back to start with, but i more disliked it when the 4th round pick was involved, now im pretty ok with it.

  16. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Is this Jason Cole? LOL

  17. D's avatar D says:

    Man i cant believe some of these mocksters, they lose their mind over small changes. Like for some reason now that we traded back, we all of a sudden need a WR in the first, when NEVER EVER EVER has anyone mocked a WR to us in the first before lol. How the fuck does that makes sense.

  18. D's avatar D says:

    Tim i believe bat cock still qualifies as cock….. aint no body wanna see that…..

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      So what about a dog? Do you look away? LOL

      The face and mask and Jason Cole was part of the joke too, take your eyes off the cock. LOL

    • D's avatar D says:

      lol… can see it turning in Tim’s mind…. well technically its not a human cock…so probably will be ok, i mean employers will be like….OMG WTF, but when they stop they will be like phew…its just a bat cock…carry on….

      • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

        So you openly have the blog open for your employers to review?

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Maybe Herd or TwiceTwice can get a ‘panic’ button installed that stays off to the side on these blog pages.

  19. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    James McKinney ‏@ConchPhinsFan · 3m3 minutes ago

    The Miami Dolphins are not done addressing the defensive end position, with news that Robert Ayers will be… http://fb.me/55hZRGqb3

  20. D's avatar D says:

    None of you like the idea of possibly drafting Leonard Flloyd at 13? He would be an almsot perfect SLB prospect. Very fast, flys around the field but at 6-6 245 he has some size to him as well, really good blitzer.

  21. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Still got a CB

    13: R1P13 CB VERNON HARGREAVES III FLORIDA
    42: R2P11 OT GERMAIN IFEDI TEXAS A&M
    73: R3P10 OLB DEION JONES LSU
    108: R4P9 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
    147: R5P8 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA
    189: R6P11 DE D.J. PETTWAY ALABAMA
    225: R7P6 S T.J. GREEN CLEMSON
    229: R7P10 QB BRANDON ALLEN ARKANSAS

  22. D's avatar D says:

    Mentioned Bushrod last year when Bears were liquidating mid season, but looks like he might actually be a guy we want. Im not a big fan, i think his best years are behind him, but as a stop gap might not be too bad.

  23. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @Phin_Fanatic: Cj Anderson had a decent year under gase in 13-14 season..averaged 4.7 ypc. 8 TDs. 849 yards..34 catches 324 yds and 2 TDs

  24. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    13: R1P13 OLB DARRON LEE OHIO STATE
    42: R2P11 S JEREMY CASH DUKE
    73: R3P10 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
    108: R4P9 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
    147: R5P8 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
    189: R6P11 CB MORGAN BURNS KANSAS STATE
    225: R7P6 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA
    229: R7P10 C MIKE MATTHEWS TEXAS A&M

  25. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ✔ ‎@OmarKelly
    Warning….It’s going to be a lot of stray blocks today on twitter. Don’t catch one. I’m not in the mood

  26. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Omar Kelly ‏@OmarKelly 28m28 minutes ago
    Colin Kaepernick has WAY MORE crap that needs to be fixed than Ryan Tannehill. But he’s also got more talent, and IT.

    Benson Taylor
    ‏@FintasticFan
    @OmarKelly always knew you disliked Tannehill, but Kaep sucks.

    Omar Kelly ✔ ‎@OmarKelly
    Lol. Which QB has more trade value with a worse contract? That tells you who is better…..real talk.
    _______________________
    Omar porn….smh!

  27. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @OmarKelly: I need a good free agent tracker on who signed where for what. Who has one?

    @Dbolt48: @jstew9 @OmarKelly But Omar didn’t you claim you’ve nailed every FA landing spot since 2007? You have mystical powers bud🖕

  28. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Adam Beasley ‎@AdamHBeasley
    Alonso: “I feel great.”

    Adam Beasley ‎@AdamHBeasley
    Alonso: Trade “definitely took me by surprise.” Said business is business.

    Adam Beasley ‎@AdamHBeasley
    Said he will “100 percent” participate in the spring practices.

    Adam Beasley ‎@AdamHBeasley
    Alonso said he anticipates playing inside, but is willing to do either.

    Adam Beasley ‎@AdamHBeasley
    Alonso: “Mario is just a beast on that edge.”

    Adam Beasley ‎@AdamHBeasley
    Kiko: “Dion, he’s one of my best friends. He’s a great player, a great guy. I talked with him recently. Hope everything works out with him.”

    Adam Beasley ‎@AdamHBeasley
    Alonso on his injury issues last year: “It’s definitely all behind me. I feel great.”
    _______________________________
    All real good stuff. Maybe he can motivate and be a good influence on Dion FF! 😉

  29. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Armando Salguero ‎@ArmandoSalguero
    Kiko says he feels really emotional about being in a community with many Hispanics. Speaks of family ties to Colombia, Puerto Rico.

  30. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    D,
    My thoughts on Hargreaves vs Alexander.
    Alexander can blanket a guy better but Hargreaves has more ball hawking ability (tries to pick off more plays rather than just defend passes).

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Hargreaves is considerably more physical & aggressive, which seems the direction Vance wants to go with his secondary. Alexander is pesky, but I think will be overcome with today’s trend towards big receivers.

    • Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

      That said, INT is worth more than 5+ straight passes defended. It’s all about creating scoring chances.

  31. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @TonyPauline: Mississippi State results: Beniquez Brown/LB meets with Dolphins.. https://t.co/FYlDN3T7z0

  32. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    GDP,
    Either way, I’m hoping the Fins pass on either and go with DE in RD 1 and CB in RD 2.
    William Jackson III looks like a beast (might go in RD 1 though)
    Artie Burns has talent himself, a little more raw but his coaches at Miami were incompetent so he might blossom in the NFL.
    I love DJ white myself but I guess he’s more of a slot guy at this point or #2 corner at best.
    Cyrus Jones who was mentioned in here has that middle RD grade; I haven’t seen much of his film but he tested with elite 3-cone time and had a good 40 run and 10 yard split.

  33. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    I think trying to put any sort of value or points designation on the draft is pointless. It all depends on your specific team’s needs, who’s available in FA and what that particular draft offers. I think it really matters most in the top round or two….after that….the difference between players is negligible.
    ***
    For instance, if you would REALLY like to draft a top CB in any particular draft, and there are really only one or two top echelon CBs in that draft, dropping out of the top 10 could potentially be huge. That’s why I think drafting philosophy should really always be a mix of team need and BPA because you can never be assured of being able to get value at a specific position. You need to be able to adjust on the fly and be ready to draft a guy/position you didn’t anticipate.
    ***
    I’m not happy with the trade. I would not have flipped 1st round picks. I don’t think those two players are worth it….and Philly was not in a good bargaining position. Obviously, the Dolphins felt differently. Just my .02 worth.

    • Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

      I’m indifferent on the deal.
      My take is that the media first reported a deal for Maxwell without any talk of Kiko.
      To me the best part of the deal is Kiko (to me he’s a better ILB than Maxwell is a CB).
      Problem with Kiko is that he’s on his last year. I don’t have a high opinion of Maxwell but considering that Jalen Ramsey & Myles Jack are likely gone before #8, and DL being the real target for Miami in RD 1 (and not CB), the difference between 8-13 is not much. People can talk up about what other trade Miami could have done but if there’s no demand for a move from 13 to 8 from anyone else then there’s no deal. This draft is considered to be deep but not littered with many elite talent guys.

  34. Al in MIA's avatar Al in MIA says:

    GDP,
    Was catching up with some comments yesterday…
    “getterdone says:
    March 9, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    You can’t say that. Gase likes to run the ball unlike Lazor.
    Miller accounted for nearly 1350 all purpose yards the past 2 seasons, & close to 10 TD’s both seasons (19) total. All while being hardly used under Philbin’s watch.


    Agree, but this is what it comes down to. $ / snap and the Fins are content on a 2 back system with similar carries at least from the FO standpoint.

    Considering Gase and his play calling in Chicago; Forte was losing reps to a 4th RD rookie who had a bigger build. The kind of build that a CJ anderson has.

  35. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Totally with Randy on his 2:08 post above

  36. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    LOL:

    @Wotamoron: Hahaha I’m done 😂 https://t.co/7vgUopDSxz

  37. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Al,
    William Jackson intrigues me with his speed but not sure he’s quite physical enough yet.
    Burns intrigues me with his physical nature, & yes with better coaching.
    I also like Apple, who seems to have both speed & physicalness to him. He’s still a little raw, but nice upside.

    Those guys are early birds for the most part.
    A guy I have targeted in the mid rounds is the big LSU CB Rashard Robinson. He’s worth a flyer if not taken too early…IMO.

  38. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Al,
    I just don’t think either of those players is worth giving up anything to get. I also think Kiko is potentially the best part of it, but enough to make it worth dropping outside the top 10? Meh. I’m not going crazy on the trade. I just don’t like it. I never like giving up draft position that high in the draft.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      We sucked really hard to get the no. 8 pick. Now we just gave away all that hard earned sucking.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Totally wrong view…IMO.
      We gave up 5 slots, about a late 3rd -4th round value. Kept all of our picks, and acquired real talent that has proven itself at the NFL level. Yes, there have been injuries, but both guys are over that, and still young. Alonso was a 2nd or 3rd round pick in 2013.
      So it’s like getting 2 extra picks in the draft, but guys already experienced with the NFL grind. Plus we still have all our picks to build in behind them for the future, 2017 & beyond.

  39. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Ken,
    Exactly! It’s not every year you get a top 10 pick. We should be taking advantage of our suckiness. Lol

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Hell we’ve screwed the pooch on #1 & #3’s overall before. So what’s your point?

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I don’t like moving down either

      but I can’t say its s big loss
      we didn’t get killed
      we got 2 players who are at a minimum decent players

      I don’t like the trade but its not exactly gripeworthy IMO

  40. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Its a very subtle grip about the trade down for me

    Its just if we miss a shot at a player who Is potentially a great player going from 8 to 13
    I don’t expect Jalen Ramsey or Myles Jack to be there
    but its possible they drop to 8

    Players like Shaq Lawson, Robert Nkemdiche, Mackensie alexander, Darron Lee, Ogbah or Hargreaves might come off the board before the 13th pick
    They all will not
    but if we have a preference – that player might be gone

    every year I find ourselves a few spots out of a very good player
    So its hard to believe some one who really can help us will not be there between 8-12

    That said
    The difference between players there might not be so big at all
    and there may not be any difference
    between players are selected in the teens rather than top 10 a lot
    you can’t really rank players coming out and get it right all the time

    and if the 2 players we obtained to start next year and play a majority of the games
    Well, you really would be hard pressed to get that by dropping a few slots

  41. D's avatar D says:

    Those guys are early birds for the most part.
    A guy I have targeted in the mid rounds is the big LSU CB Rashard Robinson. He’s worth a flyer if not taken too early…IMO.
    Reply
    ———————————
    The talent is undeniable but he is a really thinly built guy and not physical at all he is more a pure cover guy, like Maxwell, Jackson, Redmond, etc.

    Cyrus is more NB in our system but he fits NB in a press system like a glove. My only deal with drafting him is that we already have a solid projected starter at NB, but it might make both better if they competed against one another.

  42. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Piggy,
    Hence the reason I said i’m not going nuts on the trade…just throwing my opinion out there in the general discussion. I’m not losing sleep over it. I think dropping 5 spots matters…just how much we won’t know for years.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      I hear you
      Its like asking for a thumbs up or a thumbs down
      and I say thumbs down to

      but its not an emphatic thumbs down

  43. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Top 10 pick is just a number. It doesn’t determine anything. If you have 6 prospects you’d be willing to take at #8 you can still get one of them at #13. So top 10 pick is just a buzz phrase.

  44. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    I do think dropping 5 spots that early is significant. Not that there won’t be a good player at 13 but we may well have lost out on a better player at 8 for what in return? I don’t see either Maxwell or Alonzo as impact players at this point. Maxwell excelled when he was a no. 2 CB opposite Sherman. Alonzo has a significant injury history. To me the trade was not a good one if for nothing else I think we were in a better position to bargain and we gave away too much despite having the upper hand in the negotiation process. Both Maxwell and Alonzo could work out but I still think we gave away too much.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      Alonzo had one major knee injury two years ago. Totally overblown. We didn’t really give up anything for either of them. We wanted these two players and were willing to drop down to #13 so not sure how it can be viewed as bad.

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        Tim:
        Alonzo has now had 2 knee injuries. Missed 1 and 1/2 seasons. There is no such thing as an overblown knee injury. Any knee injury can be a career ender. Alonzo played okay when he came back last year but was not playing like he did as a rookie. There is nothing saying he will be that level of player again. He could be but just as likely he will not. So when we have the leverage. Philly has big contract dollars they want to dump. We are willing to take that on then why do we give away a top 10 pick when maybe we could have done this for something less than that. I doubt that many other teams were coming calling for those contracts.

  45. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    8 Tavon Austin
    9 Dee Milliner
    10 Chance Warmack G
    11 D. J. Fluker
    12 D. J. Hayden
    13 Sheldon Richardson

    Sometimes it helps to look at past drafts
    this is 2013 8-13
    Who is the best player here
    I would say Sheldon Richardson
    In this draft the jests actually had 9 and 13
    and 13 was significantly better than 9

    This is BTW the Dion Jordan Draft
    Also the draft I was pining for Samurais

    There are 2 probowlers in the top 13 picks
    Richardson (13) and Ansah (5)

    There are 6 probowlers from 14-32
    There are 2 probowlers in the top 13 picks of the 2nd round

    Don’t get too hung up on the spot
    Its kinda of a theoretical gripe

  46. Randy's avatar Randy says:

    Tim,
    Top 10 is not just a number. The fact is that the higher the pick the better your chances are of getting a better player. It’s not a given, but there is a difference. How much of one is the question. But, it’s not just empty rhetoric.

    • Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

      I disagree and that’s fine. Most boards are lateral, not linear. Our FO decided that we were okay with dropping down. Do you think they discussed it? LOL

  47. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    2014
    if you are curious

    8 Justin Gilbert
    9 Anthony Barr
    10 Eric Ebron
    11 Taylor Lewan
    12. Odell Beckham
    13 Aaron Donald

    you can argue that 12 is the best WR in football in 2015 and 13 is the best DT in football in 2015

    9 is also a stud IMO
    there are 4 probowlers taken after 13 in 2014 (in the first round)
    there were 3 taken before 13
    and 13 is a probowler

  48. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    I would have been calling the trade a steal if we moved back 5 picks in the 2nd round

    in the 1st round – that shot a getting a really special player is what bothers me

  49. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Guys, think about it. are all the NFL stars all top 8 or top 10 picks? Plus look at all the history of busts from the Top 10, even recently.
    LOL, I mean c’mon. We got 2 picks to trade down 5 spots. Put injury & contracts aside a min.
    Those 2 extra picks we got have already shown they can produce, they are not busts.
    Now we can either keep them, or cut them if they don’t produce, kinda like the cheap rookie deal draft picks. But we know these guys can play in the NFL. We don’t know that about any one of the Top 10 picks!

    Now put that in Dion FF’s pipe and smoke it! 🙄

  50. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    the 13th pick in the last 3 drafts are
    Sheldon Richardson, Aaron Donald & Andrus Peat

    obviously we need to take a DT…..lol

    Robert Nkemdiche (to actually play DE)
    welcome to Miami

  51. BoulderPhinfan's avatar BoulderPhinfan says:

    LOL @ ken and waste of all that sucking.

  52. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    OV is going to be on the radio later today.

  53. The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

    Myles Jack is the really big risk we might give up between 8 and 13
    if he falls to 8, will he fall to 13
    probably not

    So that will kill me

  54. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    look at all them coveted samurai WR’s. Guys like Kevin White, whom I really liked, still can find the field, or Perriman in Balt., etc.

    • The Flying Pig's avatar The Flying Pig says:

      He was injured last season

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Right, and so was Alonso, & so will many of the top 15 picks from this year’s draft. 😉

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Jack is injured before he got drafted, so is Jaylon Smith, etc etc.
      It’s nothing new.
      The only thing that upset me about the trade was the rumor of Miami losing a 4th to boot.
      Hey, we gained two young NFL starters and kept off of our compliment of picks…BooYeah!

  55. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Ken, I doubt Jack will be there and even if he is, he may not be as high on every team’s board the way fans thinks he is. Again, the team made a decision that they’re okay being at #13, nobody forced them to do this deal.

    By the way, Jack hasn’t played a down since suffering a season ending knee injury. So he’s not a 100% clean prospect. No more so than Alonso.

  56. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    There were a ton of injuries this past season. Serious ones too.

  57. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Joe Banner ‏@JoeBanner13 · 38m38 minutes ago

    Let’s be clear about analytics.I know of no study that says lose quality young starter to get a comp pick in 18 months at the end of 5th rd.

  58. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Going from #8 > #13 is like a trade down & picking up 2 extra picks. 1 was a 2nd rd (46) pick & 1 was a 6th rd (173) pick. There’s the trade value.
    But these 2 extra picks happen to be known young NFL quantities, that are now healthy. Unlike any picks we or any other team are yet to select in 2016!

    Oh did I mention it also will likely be filling holes at key positions, and not just potentially?

    I think it’s a Win Win, and a nice way to start off the Gase era.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      I think both of the guys we picked up are big question marks with big contracts and because of that I think we had more bargaining power and gave up too much. Like PIggy said if we swapped 2nd rounders the deal is probably a steal. But we dropped 5 picks at or near the top of the draft. That could be the difference between a Myles Jack or Hargreaves and a lesser player.

  59. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Okay one more, check this out!

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Down goes Frazier. You’re supposed to do that on the 1st beer, not after you’re already drunk as shit….lol

  60. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    Tony Pauline ‏@TonyPauline · 7m7 minutes ago

    Tony Pauline Retweeted Walter Cherepinsky

    Dodd and Alexander shine at Clemson pro-day….Indianapolis Colts send their tight end coach to Harvard.

  61. D's avatar D says:

    That Remi guy is flipping crazy as hell.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      Even tho the film seems speeded up, I still wouldn’t try that shit. I’m sorry but that would be 1 dead cat…LOL

  62. D's avatar D says:

    BTW for those of you that are really interested in how comp picks work/get awarded, this s a good link for the explanation.

    http://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/

  63. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Kansas State CB/PR Morgan Burns clocked forty times of 4.34 to 4.38 at his pro day.
    The burner was snubbed from the Combine, making this his first chance to impress scouts during the process.
    _______________
    WOW, he’s 5’11 201lb.

  64. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Clemson edge rusher Kevin Dodd has an official visit scheduled with the Panthers next Wednesday.
    Dodd is filling up his calendar following Thursday’s pro day workout. After moving out of Shaq Lawson’s massive shadow, Dodd has seen a steady stock boost over the months. His status has risen so high that Dodd was in the top-10 of Daniel Jeremiah’s recent mock draft.

  65. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    Kiko Alonso: “I expect Dion to come back with a chip on his shoulder”

    Like this?

  66. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    D

    I read that a long time ago, but stopped immediately once I got to this point . . .

    Compensatory free agents are determined by a secret formula based on salary, playing time and postseason honors. Not every free agent lost or signed is covered by the formula.

      • Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

        Secret formula my ASS! That’s a line of bullshit that says we can do whatever the F we want!

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Shhh, it’s Belicheat’s secret.

      • D's avatar D says:

        Mike it goes on to say, there was a guy named Adam that had figured out the formula and had correctly projected the comp pick assignments for several years applying the formula he had figured out. They then tell you how it worked, but the big part of it isnt that the formula is exact as much as it is the factors that go into the equation which is verified by several other sources.

        It may be your innate desire to remain a pessimist but you make it seem like you dont want us to get a 3rd round pick lol. Ignore your jewish tendencies to punish yourself and try to be happy about the prospect maybe im right lol….. Its not my only source for the comp pick assignments, its just the one with a lot of very sound details in it that explain some of the rules.

  67. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    OV is pretty cool on the radio. He’s grateful and looking forward to a new chapter in his life in a new city.

  68. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    Monkey see, monkey do!

  69. Wyoming85's avatar wyoming85 says:

    13: R1P13CB MACKENSIE ALEXANDER, CLEMSON
    42: R2P11 S DARIAN THOMPSON, BOISE STATE
    73: R3P10 OLB DEION JONES, LSU
    108: R4P9 DE CHARLES TAPPER, OKLAHOMA
    147: R5P8 RB JOSH FERGUSON, ILLINOIS
    189: R6P11 OT WILLIE BEAVERS, WESTERN MICHIGAN
    225: R7P6 TE TANNER MCEVOY, WISCONSIN
    229: R7P10 G JORDAN WALSH, IOWA

  70. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    WOW, 5th grade class just let out. 🙄

  71. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    Armando Salguero ‎@ArmandoSalguero
    Dolphins sign RB C.J. Anderson to a four-year offer sheet. The details, sans the baboon sausage.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      I’m told the Dolphins have structured the deal to make it difficult for the Broncos to match. (No idea of specifics). The price point for Anderson was to be between the $4-$5 million per year average. That means his deal will be between $16-$20 million total.

  72. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 4m4 minutes ago
    CJ Anderson’s offer sheet with Miami: 4 years, $18 million. Denver has five days to match or lose Anderson.

  73. D's avatar D says:

    5th grade seems a little high for us.

    • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

      True, but was factoring in the fact that you guys are old enough to smoke, drink, and sadly procreate. 😯

  74. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    LOL @ D – I don’t trust any system based on a “secret formula”. How can you argue you didn’t get a pick when the parameters are unknown?

  75. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    @AllbrightNFL: Correction CJ Anderson contract will not be matched, will go to #Dolphins at 4 yrs/18mil ($10mil+ guarantees)

  76. Mike E.'s avatar Mike E. says:

    CJ Anderson is more of a grinder than MillerTime. He’s not going to have those 50 yard breakaway runs, but he’ll get a bunch of 4-5 yard runs where there wasn’t much to get. I like the signing. Hopefully the offer doesn’t get matched.

  77. getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

    CJ Anderson just turned 25 a month ago today. 5’8 224 bowling ball with good hands.
    4.7 per rush & 8.4 per catch last 2 seasons starting.
    So if we secure him, it’s like all the good things about Miller rolled up into one again.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      CJ Anderson is not Miller. Nothing to get excited about with him. If he is Miller’s replacement we took a step back at RB

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        That said I expect Ajayai to be Miller’s replacement and I do think he is a quality back but a different kind of back than Miller. Not as explosive.

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Oh geez Ken, really? Get off this moan n groan train Hulk. Be happy David Banner again.

  78. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    I hate to be blog police but I think some of the video posts are crossing the line. Please refrain from any more graphic videos of monkey poop or pee.

  79. son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

    CJ will be good, playoff and SB experience too

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      I look at him as a role player. I think it is Ajayai’s job now and Anderson is the back up. He can’t do what Miller did for the offense but he is a quality no. 2 back.

      • getterdone's avatar getterdone says:

        Ajayi hasn’t earned the starting job yet. Don’t be so fast to pencil him in just because we drafted him last year & he got a few carries in relief of Miller.

      • son of a son of a shula's avatar son of a son of a shula says:

        If Ajayi is going to be the starter then I don’t think we would have signed a top back in FA. We’ll see.

      • Ken's avatar Ken says:

        I don’t consider Anderson a top back and he was not the top back in FA. That was Martin and Miller. Anderson is significantly below both imo.

  80. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    CJ is not as explosive as Miller but he does break some big runs. His production is very similar to Miller’s.

  81. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    getterdone says:
    March 10, 2016 at 5:32 pm (Edit)

    Oh geez Ken, really? Get off this moan n groan train Hulk. Be happy David Banner again.
    _________________________________
    Sorry GDP but there is nothing in any of these moves that gives me hope. We lost Miller who is better than Anderson. We gave up the no. 8 pick for players with question marks. I know we got #13 back but I still think we over payed. I like the Mario Williams with the idea we were not going to bring back Vernon which I agree with at the price paid by the Giants. But right now I don’t see a team that is significantly better than where it was at the end of the season. That said I know FA is not over yet and we have the draft coming up but I still gaping holes on the team that have not been addressed.

    • steveccnv's avatar steveccnv says:

      You can’t have it both ways, you can’t ask for the big FA signing or the value guys quick. Give it time.

  82. Tim Knight's avatar Tim Knight says:

    Anderson will likely be the starter but probably not a workhorse back, Ajayi will get some touches and Williams may still get some 3rd down work.

    • Ken's avatar Ken says:

      I think Ajayi becomes no. 1 before too long. Anderson was supposed to become the workhorse in Denver and he couldn’t secure the job when it was there for him. Once he got back to being a rotational back his productivity increased.

  83. D's avatar D says:

    Barry Jackson Retweeted
    Benjamin Allbright ‏@AllbrightNFL 14m14 minutes ago

    Benjamin Allbright Retweeted Benjamin Allbright

    #Broncos source texts back “Unlikely to match”

  84. dbolt48's avatar dbolt48 says:

    Ken,
    Millers a more explosive back who’s a long ball threat. Anderson is more powerful between the tackles and a much more consistent runner.

  85. Ken's avatar Ken says:

    Alright. I am leaving the office. Peace.

  86. D's avatar D says:

    dbolt48 says:
    March 10, 2016 at 5:33 pm
    Hey dad….what about the purple/pink running penis????😂💩💩💩💩💩💩🐒💩
    ————————————–
    Or the bat cock…..

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