Wedge Scouting Report: Darron Lee, LB


Ohio State is loaded with prospects in 2016

Joey Bosa, Eli Apple, Ezekial Elliot, Taylor Decker, Braxton Miller, Von Bell, Joshua Perry, Michael Thomas, Adolphus Washington!

So many prospects I feel like Moe the Cranium Crusher put my head in a vice again.

Mo the Head Squasher

Who is Moe?  He is the little squirt who takes my head to a vice when I don’t file a planet destroyer file on time.

I hate him…or her…or it…whatever that little blob is…I would squash him if I could.

but I can never find him away from the deadly vice.

And I’m not getting near that vice.

Kind of like my favorite Buckeye Darron Lee


I’m not getting near Darron Lee…guess why…


This aggressive linebacker will come out you with force!

On a team full of talent, he might be the most talented Buckeye (sorry Joey Bosa, just one Alien’s opinion)


Lee decided to come out as a sophomore, so maybe he hasn’t received as much attention as the other Buckeyes.

But he should have!

And after his combine performance, you bet he is getting the attention he deserves.  Lee ran an impressive 4.47 in the 40 yard dash.  Zoooooooooooooooooom!

If you don’t give him attention now, he might squash your human head…

Like many Linebackers this year he might be considered undersized by some.  He is 6’2, 235 pounds.  Not huge by NFL standards.


But don’t tell Lee you think he is undersized if you value your head not being squashed.

He’s explosive and he hits with power!  BOOM!  Your head is sauce now!

Lee is a good pass rusher who managed to compile 6.5 sacks as a freshman and 4.5 as a sophomore.  He also tallied 3 interceptions in his career.


It might be a historic draft for Ohio State.  Maybe they break the record for 1st round picks in the draft.  Or maybe they break the record for most players drafted in one season.

Darron Lee doesn’t care about that though.

Darron Lee takes your history and he bashes you with it.  Darron Lee just wants to bash you.  So don’t give him anything to do it with for your own good.


Lee is all over the field:  making impact plays behind the line of scrimmage, dropping into coverage, going from one side off the field to the other.  Its helps to have sub 4.50 speed!

You can make an argument that Lee is the truest linebacker in the NFL draft.

And if you don’t make that argument, Lee will smash you.

If Lee was an Alien Weapon of Destruction, he would be the Galactic Cranium Smasher Vice (sans Mo, so I can finally kill him)


You can watch his highlights here:

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762 Responses to Wedge Scouting Report: Darron Lee, LB

  1. wyoming85 says:

    Actually the Pro Day notes are written by
    2016 Pro Day Notes: Thursday, March 24, 5:55 p.m.
    By Tony Pauline,

  2. getterdone says:

    That and he has some nice looking girls in his pop up adds!!!!!!!!

    Uh, Wyo, I hate to break it to ya. But those ads vary from user to user, and are likely based on cookies from your browsing history of porn sites. 😉

  3. getterdone says:

    Rock, have you ever googled your ass to see where it came from & who it belongs to?

  4. Rockphin says:

    Good Friday everyone! Happy Easter if I don’t post before then.

    • getterdone says:

      Thanks man. Happy Easter to you too.
      Remember, it’s not about the Bunny, it’s all about the Lamb! 😀

  5. steveccnv says:

    Before the page turn someone posted Kenneth Dixon Highlights, me likes:

    There’s fight in that little dog, he gets as much as he can on every run, has great vision, always making someone miss, very good in the open field…

  6. Ken says:

    I need to go drink some beers. Peace.

  7. D says:

    For some reason im am almost mezmerized by this woman…. Its Lily the AT&T lady from the commercial (Milana Vayntrub) and on top of some crazy levels of cute, i have heard some podcasts/youtube videos she has done and she seems to have a awesome sense of humor, like the kind guys only seem to have. Ill admit i stare at the commercials when they come on.

  8. steveccnv says:

    Broncos can win Super Bowl with Mark Sanchez at QB

    Who’s the genius that writes this shit? They won with Gimpy last yr, so anything is possible with that D, even though they may be a little depleted.

    I see
    KC Joyner
    ESPN Insider
    wrote this, and you have to pay for it.

    • getterdone says:

      Goes to show you what a “great” defense can overcome. Defense can still win championships.
      Glad the Phins are making a big effort to retool the defense in Miami.

      • steveccnv says:

        My post was about the writer, I’d fire him on the spot 😉

      • getterdone says:

        LOL, yeah…stupid to act like Sanchez will be the reason they might win another SB. He’s not gonna read defenses the way Peyton did.

  9. steveccnv says:

    #5 on the list of most worthless players on every team, was Dallas Thomas, he graded out at the worst guard in the league by PFF.

  10. Rockphin says:

    Tim, that Gif you posted is a real spinner.

  11. Tim Knight says:

    So this is who we have on the OL as of now. Can we find at least one guy who surprises and wins a job? Urbik and Bushrod are vets who should push for a spot but can someone else step up?

    C Pouncey,
    G Urbik(C), Thomas, Turner, Douglas(C), McClendon(C), Steen, Painter
    T Albert, James, Bushrod(G), Young, John

  12. Rockphin says:

    I read somewhere that the Dolphins are putting Thomas, Turner & Douglas through an intensive strength training program this offseason to “transform” them. I hope that at least one of our 3rd round picks can become a good starter and on of the other two a good backup.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I read that about Thomas and Turner, not Douglas. Douglas is really strong, he lifts some crazy amounts of weight with different lifts. He’s known for it. His issue is technique at the next level. That’s what he needs to work on. My guess is Thomas and Turner lack functional upper or lower body strength and they want to level that out.

  13. Tim Knight says:

    Steve, Turner has played one season. He missed all of his rookie year with turf toe. He actually played well in the run game but struggled in pass pro last year.

  14. The Flying Pig says:

    From what I read about Douglas predraft
    He’s was really strong at Arizona state

  15. getterdone says:

    Mar 25 – 7:14 PM
    Free agent DE/OLB O’Brien Schofield hasn’t totally ruled out re-signing with the Falcons but acknowledges the team has probably moved on after signing Courtney Upshaw.
    Schofield does have an offer on the table from Atlanta but it doesn’t make sense for the Falcons to sign both players. He’s drawn interest from a few other teams including the Bears, Cowboys, Dolphins, Titans and Seahawks. Schofield has battled knee arthritis throughout his career but has not missed a game over his last two seasons.

  16. Rockphin says:

    This mock did not turn out at all like I expected when I walked into the draft room.

  17. The Flying Pig says:

    42: R2P11
    73: R3P10
    108: R4P9
    148: R5P8
    187: R6P11
    228: R7P6
    232: R7P10

  18. steveccnv says:

    Wow! OD was right, do the Irish ever get the calls.

  19. dbolt48 says:

    Ken says:
    March 25, 2016 at 4:52 pm
    Nothing better than chicks with swords.

    So it’s official, Ken loves him some transvestites.

  20. wyoming85 says:

    Defensive lineman Bronson Kaufusi stood on most of his Combine numbers but participated in position drills, and as communicated to me, looked like a stud.

    Kafusi looked athletic, smooth and forceful in everything he did. Many say it looks like his upper body has filled in and Kafusi is coming into his own. Known as a class act and high-character person, the senior solidified himself as a second-day pick.

  21. wyoming85 says:

    Offensive lineman Ryker Mathews measured 6055, 316 pounds, completed 23 reps on the bench and timed 5.05 in the 40. He touched 28.5 inches in the vertical jump and timed 4.64 in the short shuttle.

    Mathews, who should be a late-round pick as a swing lineman who can play tackle or guard

  22. steveccnv says:

    What are the chances Stinky starts in Denver? If he does what will the opposing CBs be saying?

    Let me get a McPick6.

  23. wyoming85 says:

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 13: Myles Jack, OLB/ILB, UCLA (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 11: Emmanuel Ogbah, DE, Oklahoma State (A)
    Round 3 Pick 10: Sebastian Tretola, OG, Arkansas (B+)
    Round 4 Pick 9: C.J. Prosise, RB, Notre Dame (B+)
    Round 5 Pick 8: Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota (A+)
    Round 6 Pick 11: Tyvis Powell, FS, Ohio State (B+)
    Round 7 Pick 6: Tanner McEvoy, TE/WR, Wisconsin (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 10: Nick Richter, OT, Richmond (C+)

    • The Flying Pig says:

      All I have to see is Myles Jack and I’m very happy with this draft

      • Tim Knight says:

        I like Ogbah as a 2nd rd pick to develop at DE. He has upside talent but needs work on his technique. We don’t have to rely on him this year, he can pay STs and get some snaps at DE in a rotation.

  24. Tim Knight says:

    Anyone a AIC fan?

  25. Tim Knight says:

    Playing the wide 9 technique as one of our staples – D. Moore, McCain and even Dion FF could flourish. The weak side end basically attacks the backfield every play, it’s easy. No thinking except if you see it’s a run react. LOL

  26. naplesfan2010 says:

    most overrated players … Apple, Jack, Bosa, D Henry, D Lee, Pax Lynch, Dak Prescott, Chris Hack….

  27. uwantwat says:

    Naples have you been reading Walter’s site again?

  28. Mike E. says:

    LOL Lee – I told ’em! 🙂

  29. Mike E. says:

    Two Lee’s are better than one . . .

  30. Mike E. says:

    I guess Tanny thinks he’s going have to have a great season

  31. Mike E. says:

    Happy Birthday Try!

  32. steveccnv says:

    The past several years the Miami Dolphins usually were the team that made huge additions in free agency. Big-ticket items such as defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh (2015), Pro Bowl left tackle Branden Albert (2014) and former No. 1 receiver Mike Wallace (2013) highlighted the past three free-agent classes that fueled optimism entering the regular season.

    However, that approach failed each year as Miami fell short of a winning season.

    Individually these players were a success mostly, with the except maybe being Wallace, even though his non-success may be an off the field thing (attitude). The line he can take your-ins and beat his-ins, worked in reverse for fool Joe. He couldn’t take his-ins and beat your-ins, but he did take his-ins and turn them into urine 😉

    You can’t just say, because the team didn’t have a winning record therefore everything they did failed. It seems pretty obvious to me, why the team failed and it starts at the top (coach and coordinators didn’t know what they were doing).

    Everything I’m hearing from Gase has been, this guy fits into what we’re trying to do, or we’ll put players in position to play towards their strengths.

    • steveccnv says:

      Our genius ESPN beat writer also goes on to say for the 4,000th time, it’s debatable whether Miami’s current roster is much better than the 6-10 roster that ended last season.

      Do we really need a better roster, or is a coaching change to someone that actually has a clue enough to make the roster better?

      Either way we needed a roster makeover, because the overall depth and a few position groups were thin.

  33. steveccnv says:

    More on the same point, talking about Maxwell:
    “He does a great job when he gets his hands on people,” said Chip Kelly, who was hired by the San Francisco 49ers after being let go by the Eagles after last season. “It’s kind of what the prototypical corner in this league is like. He matches up well with big receivers. He’s really good in taking them away at the line of scrimmage. When he wins at the line of scrimmage, he’s really successful. Vance (Joseph) is really experienced at doing those things and I think he’ll do a really good job with him.”

    Yet Chip in Philbinesque fashion brought him in to play off the receiver.

    • steveccnv says:

      Now couple that with a coach, who obviously has a clue:
      “I feel like Byron is going to fit well into what we’re going to do on defense,” Head Coach Adam Gase said. “He’ll be able to do more of what he’s done in the past where he had success. I’ve competed against him a couple of times when he was in Seattle and he challenged us. And we had some pretty good receivers. I feel really good about him coming in. I’m excited … I could feel his excitement getting down here.

      What a concept, lets let him do what he’s had success at doing. I think Chip thought he could do it his way and everything would work out.

      As one coach said this is football it isn’t rocket science.

  34. Mike E. says:


    I’m so impressed with the front office’s constraint this FA. I think they did a great job. I hope this is the NEW way they conduct business, because it’s the winning path. It may not pay immediate dividends this season, but if they continue to be judicious in FA, and not overspend, the compensatory picks will continue to come, and the cap will be more manageable. The most important thing in addition to doing what I mentioned, is drafting well. Do that for a few years, and keep the FA spending in check, and we will be a winning organization.

  35. naplesfan2010 says:

    more overrated players — Baby Gronk, anybody from Ohio State, anybody from Missouri, anybody from Alabama, anybody from So Cal …

  36. If you have a chance to watch the coaches film of the games from last season go and do so and let’s see what you think of Tannehill as a qb after that.

  37. Mike E. says:


    Is it free, or fee?

  38. naplesfan2010 says:

    I just looked at he remnants of the Top 100 FAs list and there is not a single player left on there that is worth signing with the slightly possible exception of OG Jahri Evans and only if he’s on the ultra-cheap

  39. naplesfan2010 says:

    The e-rag known as the Sun Sentinel should be sued for giving out the exact address of Tannehill’s home. That is an invasion of privacy and a case of reckless endangerment. What purpose did it serve to do that? Only sickos would find the exact address valuable. The QB and his wife obviously attempted to keep the location secret by buying with a trust without the Tannehill name on it, but our blood-sucking “news” media ratted them out like the wannbees and peeping Toms that they are. They even pinpointed the neighborhood so whack-jobs could more easily do a drive-by scan for Lauren.

  40. naplesfan2010 says:

    I don’t know about you guys, but I think the RB class this year is excellent. Elliott, Prosise, Drake, and Marshall are all 4.4 sprinters with good size as well. Plus I really like the SFL kid who went to Arkansas Alex Collins. He can run in the steam heat and he’s tough as nails and he’s got juice. 20 TDs in a seasson? wow 1000 yds rushing all 3 yrs in the SEC? wow all the while sharing carries with another NFL quality RB!

    I think we should draft 2 of them: either Collins or Prosise for pounding the rock alternating series with Ajayi and either Drake or Marshall for speed, screens, and KRs.

  41. naplesfan2010 says:

    Or we trade a Misi and Damontre type package for KC’s Ware or Houston’s Blue. And then still draft Drake or Marshal as above. Even throw in Stills as both those teams need another WR and then we draft someone like Peake or another midround speed wideout.

    • steveccnv says:

      Trading for an RB isn’t a good idea IMO, and no one wants hacks like Misi and Damontre.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        probably true, but the word is they are looking to trade for a 3rd string RB, so who would that be and whom would we offer? Stills has value right? Mitchell? Both are replaceable in the draft. Sims?

        I personally do not want to trade nor do I think we can, as you say, but ….

  42. naplesfan2010 says:

    … would you trade our 5th , 6th , and a 7th for Spencer Ware?

    • steveccnv says:

      I’ve never seen him play, so no. Last yr with one of our 5ths we got Lippett, would you rather have him or Ware?

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        I like Lippett, but we already have him, so we can trade away the 5th for a guy we know can run in the NFL. Or just hope we can draft a RB in the 5th and hope he can run in the NFL.

    • steveccnv says:

      That’s a lot of compensation for a 3rd string RB. Because we have Williams as one of our backs we really need to have another one that can actually run the ball, as Williams his horrible running it. For some stupid reason early in the season last yr he ran it on 4th and one and was stopped. He has no fight in his running.

  43. steveccnv says:

    I think they’re just trying to get a vet RB for nothing, like a 7th. Just doing their due diligence.

  44. naplesfan2010 says:

    I wanted to keep Gillislee instead of Damien and even thought Darkwa was a tougher runner as well.

  45. jetsssuck says:

    Mike E. says:
    March 26, 2016 at 9:59 am

    Thanks. How much is it?

    • Mike E. says:

      Thanks jetssuck. I’ll look into it, although honestly, not sure I have the patience to watch all that film, but there is a possibility it will fascinate me, and then I’ll want to watch.

      • jetsssuck says:

        each game is condensed so you will only have to watch 20-25 minutes to watch a whole game. If you have a dvd-recorder you can record them for future viewing.Boy I can’t wait till they do this in baseball,what a way to spend a afternoon.

  46. Mike E. says:


    I’d prefer not to trade our picks away. We can solve our RB issue with one draft pick in this years draft. No need to give up 3.

  47. The Flying Pig says:

    Lol @ drafter will

    I meant now they must draft well too

    • Mike E. says:

      Totally agree. You can’t be successful if you don’t, and that’s been our problem for a while. That, and bad coaching makes for a real bad combo, and a constant turnover and philosophy change and a real mess.

  48. New Age says:

    Draft is full of good RBs and if we can’t find another solid one outside of trading and the draft…then we just won’t be good enough for this regime to compete. We low balled Anderson if we didn’t have other options ready.

    I like what we are doing but it does put a larger emphasis on drafting well. All the guys we spent big money on, were good players. Even Wallace, who has issues, was a 10 TD WR. We just had nothing behind the starters and made some really poor decisions. This new thinking is better just because we hopefully have something behind Wake, Albert, Misi, etc when they get injured.

  49. New Age says:

    Draft is full of good RBs and if we can’t find another solid one outside of trading and the draft…then we just won’t be good enough for this regime to compete. We low balled Anderson if we didn’t have other options ready.

    I like what we are doing but it does put a larger emphasis on drafting well. All the guys we spent big money on, were good players. Even Wallace, who has issues, was a 10 TD WR. We just had nothing behind the starters and made some really poor decisions. This new thinking is better just because we hopefully have something behind Wake, Albert, Misi, etc when they get injured.

    • Mike E. says:

      Ha, see my post above. 🙂

      • New Age says:

        Yep. RB doesn’t win you games. OL, DL do. Much more interested in how well our OL, DL look this year even though I’m a huge Elliot fan. Only RB I’d touch in first 2 rounds.(where we draft at least). 🙂

  50. naplesfan2010 says:

    I think the Maxwell and Alonso trade for just a slight downslide in the first is a real steal. I am very happy about that.

  51. uwantwat says:

    Wow just wow, some of you have gone off the rails talking about trading some promising youngsters for a RB that will be cut. I guarantee you some of these BU will be cut. Grab one then and keep the player and the pick. Lotsa good RBs in this draft as has been discussed before. Lippett will be in the mix to start opposite Maxwell and some want him traded out. SMH.
    You are afflicted by walteritis.

  52. uwantwat says:

    WYO (Lee) I took out a young lady called Lee when I was a callous teen and it was funny when someone called out Lee. Both of us would answer “yes”. Some of the looks were priceless.

  53. jetsssuck says:
    I saw your sexual positional chart earlier but you need to mix it up. Hydraulic release sex Imagination does wonders.

  54. uwantwat says:

    Naples we won that trade easy.

  55. uwantwat says:

    JS…how have you been keeping ok I hope?

  56. naplesfan2010 says:

    RB not a worry? Who do we have? a gimpy 5th rndr with a half season of NFL experience and a slow, UDFA semi-bum. Playoffs? Playoffs!!?!?!
    only if we get another quality runner before training camp. Opening the season with Ajayi as the feature back and Damien as your support is a recipe for disaster. No matter whether you say pick up discarded trash or draft well or trade for one, we MUST get another RB. Just last yr many said they were worried about Ajayi staying healthy and look, sure enough, he got hurt and missed part of his rookie season.

  57. uwantwat says:

    Coming good been playing lotsa golf and walking on the treadmill a lot. Losing some weight is always good. Bloody meds get up my nose though. I hate popping pills. LOL

    • jetsssuck says:

      its better than the alternative. I have some very large pills that I use a pill grinder and then I mix them in my food. Where about are you down under?

  58. naplesfan2010 says:

    Some ppl badmouth our QB who threw for 4000 yds two yrs in a row with stubborn plodder Philbin for a HC and you want to wish for a dream come true at RB? Look how well that worked out in Indy or San Diego. They had great QBs and their record sucked.

  59. New Age says:

    If we can’t find a RB in this draft or outside of it, then we have the wrong people in charge. Plenty of good RBs in this draft. Plenty of solid guys available. One of the most obvious truths in football is the OL makes the RB. Dallas is the best example of this.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      I think it’s synergistic… a good line helps the back and a good back helps the line and it takes both to win games.
      Dallas did not win many games last yr with the same line and a different RB. I know they had injuries at QB, but he was not helped by his running game like the previous yr.

      Look at the rushing attacks of the 2 super Bowl teams. That and defense sure helped Manning and when the running game failed, Newton failed.

      • New Age says:

        To a point but I think the main synergy is between the QB and the run game. The Dallas OL would do well with McFadden, Ajayi, Miller, whoever. The RB NEEDS the OL to produce.

  60. naplesfan2010 says:

    New Age I do think there are plenty of good RBs in this draft, and I want us to draft 2.
    That was my first post of the day.

    • New Age says:

      As long as one in in the 6th, or 7th and is an extra pick. I don’t want two of our top 6 to be a RB. Not in any situation ever even if we won the SB. RBs are just not worth that much in this league.

  61. Tim Knight says:

    How about we put the 2015 season behind us and just look forward. The team isn’t going to be exactly the same anyway. The defense could be 3/4s different. The offense will have some tweaks but mostly the same moving forward with mostly good young skill players.

    As for what Tannehill didn’t do last year, the guy’s numbers were still very good. You would think he only completed 55% of his passes, barely threw for 3,000 yards and threw 22 INTs to just 15 TDs the way he gets talked about. Let’s put things in the proper perspective.

  62. Tim Knight says:

    Also, Hickey did a pretty good job in the draft the last 2 years. 12 of his picks are still on the team and a few of them are going to be our core guys for awhile.

  63. naplesfan2010 says:

    One possible draft:
    1 -CB Hargreaves or Jackson
    2 –OG Garnett or Alexander
    3 –RB Collins or Prosise
    4 –RB Drake or Marshall
    5 –S Davis or WR Peake
    6 –ILB McKinzy or Martinez or DE Shittu
    7 –OT Lewis
    7 –WR Payton UCLA

  64. naplesfan2010 says:

    another possible draft:
    1 -DT Nkemdiche or MLB Ragland
    2 -CB Burns or DE Ogbah or Bullard
    3 – 7 -as above except get a CB such as Worley or Robinson and / or a S such as Darian Thompson whenever they are best picked

  65. Tim Knight says:

    Naples, when I look at our options at #13 I could name 15 prospects we could go with. Even at #8 we were all racking our brains. There are only 3 or 4 what you would call top prospects in this draft and I’m not sure any of them will be as great as they’re being projected. Ramsey, Tunsil, Jack and Bosa are pretty much considered the elite of this class. To me Ramsey is the one who stands out as a special talent. The others might just be good. The QBs are solid but not considered elite so let’s hope they go before us to deepen our options. 🙂

  66. naplesfan2010 says:

    We only have one quality RB on the roster and he has a half season of experience with an injury the other half and injuries in his past!!!!

    That is very scary!!!
    You can devalue the RB position if you want, but you can’t have NONE!! (if Ajayi gets hurt)

    • New Age says:

      Do you honestly think we will only have Ajayi on the roster when we go into camp? With Gase saying he wants a stable? I don’t understand the comment really. You can get RBs from so many different places. Why limit options? There is no need for 2 RBs early in this draft. Absolutely zero reason to draft more than one before pick #200.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m not worried about RB. We can address that in many ways including the draft. We only have 3 RBs currently on our roster in Ajayi, Williams and Edwards. By the time TC starts we’ll likely have 6 backs competing.

  67. The Flying Pig says:

    Since you posted that alice in chains clip I’ve been listening to that album

    This is one of my favorite songs on the album

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s still my favorite AIC album. The first song I was turned onto was Sunshine. I heard it on Seton Hall’s Pirate Radio when it came out. That station turned me onto the whole Seattle music scene and other metal music back in the 90s.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I like Dirt a lot

        But when I go back and listen to Facelift
        It’s pretty awesome

        I really like all thing alice in chains
        One of my favorite bands ever

    • New Age says:

      Good stuff. Nirvana got me started on Seattle’s scene. Great time for music. Miss those days and being young helped lol.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Ahhh the early 90s

        I saw all those bands live
        Pearl Jam

        Alice in Chains was probably the best live show I saw during that period

  68. naplesfan2010 says:

    New Age you keep saying
    “Do you honestly think we will only have Ajayi on the roster when we go into camp? With Gase saying he wants a stable? I don’t understand the comment really. You can get RBs from so many different places.”

    Bro that is EXACTLY what I am saying and I am running through those “different places” to see what is really there behind the easy words. We need to get ours before they are all gone.

    What are these “so many places”? FA? It’s over. June Cuts? other teams’ trash. Trades? you don’t want to give up anything or you think we have nothing to give. Last minute cuts? Why would we want guys who can’t even make their own team’s 53?

    That leaves the draft. In the 6th round the best you can get according to CBS which is a very good site is the 16th best RB. Is that all you want to run along the frequently injured half-rookie Ajayi?

  69. Tim Knight says:

    Piggy and New Age, agreed on Facelift and the Seattle scene at the time. My two favorite bands of that era were AIC and Soundgarden – Badmotorfinger. Pearl Jam’s Ten album is still their best, IMO.

  70. Mike E. says:


    Not sure how much different June cuts are from UFA’s. They’re the same players, just let go a little later if a younger player shows promise. In any case, we have players we can trade to acquire RB’s if they feel the urgency to do so, and if they don’t, my guess is we’re taking one in the draft, and likely before RD 4.

  71. Tim Knight says:

    I never saw Nirvana or at least I don’t remember seeing them. LOL

    I saw the others though.

  72. Tim Knight says:

    Naples, RBs thru trade, FA, off the street, the draft and UDFA.

  73. getterdone says:

    Wow, Piggy…I’m impressed & now look at you differently.

  74. getterdone says:

    Lippett is our new Sean Smith, but with better hands.

    • Tim Knight says:

      He’s the dark horse at CB for us. If he can step up and earn a starting job or a lot of snaps we have good sized corners for our press scheme with him and Maxwell. We some good size at Safety too with Jones, AQ, Aikens, Gary and even Thomas has a physicality about him but I think he’s better suited as a dime guy and STs. He’s better than Don Jones was in that role. Gary is kind of a dark horse type too as he got more reps down the stretch last year when Aikens ended up in the doghouse for a bit.

  75. Tim Knight says:

    I have a lot of faith in Jay Ajayi. He’s gonna be a big part of the offense. Need to find another back for a tandem. Williams is a good #3 mostly as a receiver but he plays a lot of STs too.

    1. BPA DEF or OL
    2. BPA DEF or OL
    3. RB
    4. BPA DEF or OL

    Meaning after 4 rounds I want to see us land two defensive players an OL and a RB.

    I think the 3rd round is a good spot to take a RB.
    Alex Collins
    Jordan Howard
    Jonathan Williams
    Kenyan Drake
    Paul Perkins
    C.J. Proise

  76. D says:

    I agree with Naples I think Lee and Jack are both overrated. That’s not saying they aren’t good but some talk about Jack like he is the second coming of Christ (or in for you Mike, the first coming), and Lee isn’t better, and in my opinion, not as good as Jones. They just aren’t as good as their hype

    • getterdone says:

      LMAO! Yikes…..

    • Tim Knight says:

      Jack is highly ranked because of athletic ability and he’s a good fit for today’s NFL but he’s not a very physical LB. The college game just isn’t very good defensively these days. Too many points are scored. You need to find the guys who really are good NFL fits. Not saying Jack isn’t, but this guy is not LT or a Luke Kuechly, but maybe he could be.

      I think Ramsey is the best prospect in the draft. He can play both CB and S and will be a 3 down top defensive player for some team.

      Watch us trade up for him. LOL

    • dbolt48 says:

      Both are amazing athletes. I think Jack is better at diagnosing running lanes and gets there quicker. I’m still in preference if LBs who can get off blocks better than Lee. I think Jack is better doing that than Lee. As you said though there are some really excellent athletes playing LB available after round 1.

  77. New Age says:


    We lost one good RB in Miller and now the world is ending? I just don’t understand. We draft Miller’s replacement, we find a guy in the 7th or in FA, and we add a couple extra bodies. We keep at most 3 RBs on our team. Ajayi, our drafted guy, and the 3rd best option. This isn’t stuff to get worked over. It really isn’t

  78. getterdone says:

    The Miami Herald’s Barry Jackson “would think” DE Dion Jordan “would stick” on the roster if he is reinstated.
    Jordan was suspended for all of 2015. The Dolphins are reportedly “open” to giving Jordan a chance if he is reinstated, but they have a logjam at end after signing Mario Williams and Andre Branch in free agency. Jordan likely would need to beat out one of Chris McCain, Terrence Fede or Damontre Moore to earn a roster spot. The No. 3 overall pick in 2013, Jordan has not shown much even when on the field. He is shaping up as a massive bust.

  79. New Age says:


    Black Hole Sun is still one of my favorite songs. Loved all those bands and it was just a good time for music. Just like the late 60s and early 70s, I think it was a golden age for certain music. I just don’t see anything comparable today.

  80. Tim Knight says:

    GD, you didn’t know Piggy’s musical tastes if that is what you were referring to?

    • getterdone says:

      Yeah, I pigged him as something different when it came to music. Menudo….lol, kidding.

      • Tim Knight says:

        LOL, Piggy and I have along with others have discussed music many times before. I think his favorite band is Nirvana.

    • getterdone says:

      Nirvana was a great band.
      Did you ever watch ‘Soaked in Bleach’ on Netflix? I hate that hole Courtney!

  81. getterdone says:

    I’m still smarting over the loss of Millertime! Maybe Ajayi can put that grief to rest. But I wouldn’t draft a RB in the 3rd round. If we don’t go big @ RB in the 1st, then I’d wait till at least the 4th-5th like we did with Jtrain.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I added that a possibility as well but J-Train was a 2nd rd talent who dropped because of his knee issues. OL and RB is all we really need on offense. I have no problem trying to land one of the better talents in this draft even in the 2nd rd.

      After 4 rounds I’d like to see we added 2 defense, 1 OL and 1 RB.

      • getterdone says:

        I’d be ok if they thought someone was special & they put the emphasis on the OL to make him great.

  82. dbolt48 says:

    In all honesty your boy Morrison has a chance, despite his size, to be an excellent SOLB in the NFL. Not many LB’s attack OL with as much ferocity or disengage from them as well as him.

  83. Tim Knight says:

    GD, I wasn’t a huge Audioslave fan mostly because Tom Morello plays a lot of the same stuff recycled. It sounds like RATM with Cornell singing. Some good stuff just not may favorite Cornell stuff. Like this!

  84. New Age says:

    It will be interesting how the 1st rounds turns out. Similar to Tim, I think we can go lots of ways at #13 and even more than we had at #8(value-wise). I hope the elite of this draft will be gone by #7 so I don’t have any regrets. I believe they will just based off how little is there. Who will be available at #13 and where do we have the talent listed?

  85. BoulderPhinfan says:

    I agree. draft Defense and oline the first couple of rounds. But if Elliot falls to us to 13 what do you do?

    • New Age says:

      Run to the podium and pick that boy up! Absolute stud RB. One of my favorite players in the draft. He has everything Richardson and Lacy don’t. Fire and desire. Maybe not as talented as AP and TG but he’s exceptional. and very close. No need to find another RB for a while.

      • BoulderPhinfan says:

        I agree. If elliot is there you have to take him. Even though I think CB and oline are bigger needs.

    • getterdone says:

      Take him or trade down a few slots 😉

  86. New Age says:

    Back in a while guys. Time to enjoy this awesome weather.

  87. Tim Knight says:

    I would understand the Elliot pick if he fell to us. He would likely be a BPA scenario.

  88. Tim Knight says:

    If Andrew Wood didn’t OD and die Pearl Jam wouldn’t exist. Mother Love Bone was Jeff Ament’s and Stone Gossard’s band.

  89. Tim Knight says:

    Here’s another great song.

  90. Tim Knight says:

    I would take this draft right now.
    1. OL Jack Conklin (starting guard and depth at tackle)
    2. DE/DT Jonathan Bullard (great fit in our new wide 9 scheme)
    3. CB Xavien Howard (great fit in our new press scheme)
    4. RB Kenyan Drake (explosive player and versatile)

    • Tim Knight says:

      We could then double up at LB both outside and inside with our next four picks – 5, 6, 7a. and 7b, UDFAs as well. I know not everyone would be happy with that but if you feel Alonso, Jenkins, Misi and Hewitt are a good 4 it’s not difficult to go that way. Not to leave Vigil out, he could really surprise this year if he gets a little bigger and stronger. Same for Hewitt. To me Hull is a wildcard but could earn some reps at WOLB if he can make the game day roster on STs. I heard the NFL is discussing to extend the game day roster to 48 or something. That would help a guy like Hull.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I don’t mean 4 LBs, one of each in the last 4 picks. I’d go another DB and OL with the other two.

  91. Tim Knight says:

    We talk about smaller LBs who are athletic, maybe we’re overlooking Mike Hull.

  92. getterdone says:

    Yeah Andy Wood from Mother Love Bone was the inspiration for that song, and actually most of the album, but when Scott Weiland died recently, Cornell sang Say Hello to Heaven as a tribute to him too.

  93. Tim Knight says:

    AIC is like Sabbath and Zep conformed. So much awesome stuff. I’ve been listening them and Mad Season all day on this beautiful day. Windows open and ceiling fans on for a new spring airing out. 🙂

    • Tim Knight says:

      The awesome tunes never end from these guys. Layne was a troubled guy and he told us about his fate in almost every song.

      • getterdone says:

        No doubt. Sad that so many talented people afraid of their successes succumb to self medicating to comfort their distorted view on their life as well as the lives of those around them. It’s a vicious catch 22. Glad I found my way out of that hell hole!

  94. Tim Knight says:

    GD, you found peace.

    My best friend and I always say to this day if our band ever got off the ground we would probably be dead living that lifestyle. We both have addictive personalities. I never did heroin unless I didn’t know some was in a joint which I think we both experienced one time and it was weird. We both thought we were living in a slower alternative dimension. LOL

    • getterdone says:

      Yes, amen! Found peace with who I am. That’s hard as shit to do, being comfortable in your own skin.
      Now I play & sing for fun at the open mic nites & occasionally get in on a song during a set with a couple of local bands I’m buds with. That’s my temporary high 😉

  95. Tim Knight says:

    GD, based on where this team is right now, what do you think of this?

    I would take this draft right now.
    1. OL Jack Conklin (starting guard and depth at tackle)
    2. DE/DT Jonathan Bullard (great fit in our new wide 9 scheme)
    3. CB Xavien Howard (great fit in our new press scheme)
    4. RB Kenyan Drake (explosive player and versatile)


  96. getterdone says:

    Great song ^….hey you’re near my age. Did you ever hear Budgie, the 3 man Welsh rock band?

  97. getterdone says:

    1. OL Jack Conklin (starting guard and depth at tackle)
    2. DE/DT Jonathan Bullard (great fit in our new wide 9 scheme)
    3. CB Xavien Howard (great fit in our new press scheme)
    4. RB Kenyan Drake (explosive player and versatile)

    I’d be hard pressed to not like that gang if they were drafted by us. Good stuff & logically they’d be there in each round based on value etc.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Thanks, we might have to trade up in the 3rd for Howard. He’s a possible 2nd rd guy or early 3rd. We pick 10th in the 3rd. Might have to move up but I’d get it. Probably a 5th and our 3rd to get him. If we target someone like that I’m down. 🙂

      • getterdone says:

        Yep, or gamble on a ballhawk on the other side opposite Maxwell with a guy like Sanchez from Oklahoma.

  98. getterdone says:

    BTW, I’ve grown to like Drake better than his fellow RB Henry. Drake has the better NFL career…IMO.

    • Tim Knight says:

      That guy can make big plays both as a rusher and receiver and maybe as a KR. He’d be on my radar. Wouldn’t be surprised if he goes 3rd rd.

      • getterdone says:

        Yes, he could be a weapon that puts Tanny over the top & a great tandem with Ajayi too.
        He’s made for a ZBS, and I can also see him in sits with Ajayi also on the field to keep defenses back & guessing.

  99. Tim Knight says:

    LS John Denney (12) and DE Mario Williams (11) are the only two players on our roster playing over 10 years.

  100. steveccnv says:

    Tim Knight says:

    March 26, 2016 at 3:38 pm

    We talk about smaller LBs who are athletic, maybe we’re overlooking Mike Hull.
    Nothing there says to me he’s athletic, but the opposite was said:
    Weaknesses Small for an inside linebacker. Lacks bulk and has extremely short arms. Gets engulfed and smothered by wide-bodies. Must improve on reacting to second-level blocks before they get into him. Marginal play strength — sits and waits for running back to get to him and absorbs blows, allowing runner to land first punch. Nothing special athletically.

  101. getterdone says:

    I hope Burke can get Manning to realize some potential….that and I’d like to see McPain find his grove off the edge with his hand in the dirt.

  102. steveccnv says:

    When I think about stupid comments from Omar and Walker saying, we didn’t improve the roster from last yr, I wonder, if they ever think about what they write or just spew out their thoughts.

    To ask, if the roster got better, did they think about what it would’ve taken to keep it status quo? $17M per for OV, $6.5M per for Miller and Matthews/Shelby got about $4M per, about $31M. For 4 guys that we replaced them with it only cost $12.5M (including the drafted RB to replace Miller).

    If we had paid the $31M per and stayed status quo this board would’ve been ready to kill someone, yet the overall attitude here, besides Tim has been meh. We got players that fit what Gase wants to do and we didn’t break the bank doing it, actually saved money, but still we get meh.

    We get the occasional, I like the Mario signing, but still…

  103. Tim Knight says:

    Chris McCain knowing he’s a DE now will likely be 6-5 260+ not 245-250 like he’s been. Weak side edge rusher in our new scheme. The same with Damontre Moore 6-5 250 and maybe even Dion FF 6-6 2??. We also added CFL standout Clayton Laing along with long shots Julian Warmsley and Jordan Williams.

    M. Williams, Wake, Branch and Fede as well. DE is not the top priority anymore.

    • steveccnv says:

      Why would anyone think a CFL standout has a chance?

      More evidence what an idiot Philbin is, trying to make so many players jack of all trades master of none (McP).

      • Tim Knight says:

        Cameron Wake panned out pretty well. The CFL is what got him back in the NFL and a top 100 NFL player voted by his peers. 🙂

        What does anything have to do with Philbin anymore? That’s over.

      • steveccnv says:

        The CFL question was rhetorical, because we all know about Wake.

        Philbin is still relevant, because we’re comparing what we’re trying to assemble to last yrs mess, and the mistakes made.

    • getterdone says:

      No, DE is not the top priority anymore….however it’s a premiere position so you don’t pass on top talent in the draft if it’s there.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I hear ya!
        2. DE/DT Jonathan Bullard (great fit in our new wide 9 scheme)

        Bullard is a bull and would be good on stunts both inside and outside – 20-25 snap guy as a rookie. 30+ in the future.

        But we don’t NEED him. 🙂

  104. New Age says:


    The meh is pretty simple. No replacement for RB yet. Matthews/Shelby were both top notch backups. Their replacements are unknowns. Williams is an upgrade from OV but all our other ‘upgrades’ are hopeful upgrades. Maxwell just played ok last year. Alonso has been a walking injury. You are asking everyone to put their rosey homer glasses on and expect every single move to be a victory dance. There is no proof of that. They saved money because all of these guys are big risks. We replaced known solid players for unknown risks and the costs mirror that.

    • steveccnv says:

      Our running game sucked, sure Miller had a big average, but he couldn’t run when we needed it, and he couldn’t take the pressure off of the OL. It’s not that hard to get another RB in the draft that can be productive. Sure Matthews was good, but we don’t need 4 WRs, Griff is good enough for that occasional catch. When Matthews was flying high Parker wasn’t playing. Would you rather have Matthews play instead of Parker? We don’t need to pay a 4th WR $4.5M. Maxwell was played out of position. Would you rather have Maxwell or Grimes, who was as big a reason as anyone why we couldn’t beat Buff and NY. Alonso was out 2 yrs ago, then got hurt early last yr, but he’s healthy now and will be played to his strengths.

      Bottomline, would you rather have last yrs roster for 2016 or the one being assembled now?

  105. getterdone says:

    Ogbah is still learning the complexities of the position and lacks elite explosiveness, but he’s a balanced athlete for his size and never shuts it down, exhibiting the effort needed to collapse the pocket. He will be a favorite in the building due to his work ethic and make-up.

    • getterdone says:

      WOW, looks as fluid as most of the LB’s in drills. Also I think that was Conklin in the blocking punch drill that Ogbah caught his attention….lol

  106. uwantwat says:

    I’ve said it before and will say it again. I love these moves we have made this year. The media is pissed we are not spending big and this upsets their agenda. They have switched gears to say we have no idea. Those players we let go were always going to be overpaid. I’m just glad it is not us paying the bill(tab). Pfffffttttt to OV, Miller,Matthews and Shelby. Some of you have already documented their weakness for me. OV to me epitomises the old way of coaching JP and his staff bought to the table. He will flounder in the Giants scheme because he is simply not that good.

    • steveccnv says:

      He’ll start getting doubled, if he does anything, then he’ll disappear. I’m ok, with him doing well, because one of the factors for our draft compensation is post season honors. I just don’t see it happening either.

      New coach comes in and brings in his own guys, what a concept.

      OV together with Wake had as much to do with our poor run D as the LBs.

  107. Mike E. says:


    Ogbah really did look athletic. He actually reminded me a little of LT, but Ogbah’s about 30 lbs heavier, and probably not nearly as quick, but then again, if he was about 240 like LT was, maybe he would be. He moves very well.

    • steveccnv says:

      I can tell you how fast LT was first hand. I was working room service many yrs ago at Caesars Tahoe, during the Celebrity Golf tournament, I come out of the elcove just as LT was coming around the corner… 😉

  108. Mike E. says:


    Was he all coked up? I’m sure he probably was. Was this during his playing years, or after he retired?

  109. getterdone says:

    The om;y Risen savior out there people! Mother Mary, still a corpse, Joseph Smith is still in the grave, Muhammad, still dead, Allah, yep, still dead, etc.
    Now Christ Jesus actually rose from the dead as witnessed by over 500 people. He’s the real deal!

    Have a great resurrection day! 😀

  110. naplesfan2010 says:

    I think we need a DT more than we need a DE. I really want Nkemdiche.
    If both Hargreaves and Elliott are gone when 13 comes up I’d trade down and get him AND Jackson.

  111. wyoming85 says:

  112. uwantwat says:

    Aren’t they all coked up?

  113. steveccnv says:

    Walker says:
    The past several years the Miami Dolphins usually were the team that made huge additions in free agency. Big-ticket items such as defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh (2015), Pro Bowl left tackle Branden Albert (2014) and former No. 1 receiver Mike Wallace (2013) highlighted the past three free-agent classes that fueled optimism entering the regular season.

    However, that approach failed each year as Miami fell short of a winning season.

    The title of the article was:
    Dolphins learning to cope with big losses in free agency.

    So why was FA a failure, but not the draft? By the same logic that, because we didn’t have a winning record we failed in FA, we also must’ve failed in the draft, therefore we don’t have to cope with big loses in Fa, and everything else about the team was a failure.

    • steveccnv says:

      The high $ paid if FA lead to not being able to get quality depth around the roster, might be said, but IMO the FA signings I listed were all very productive, the draft has produced lately, so that leaves scheme and coaching staff, if we’ve solved that problem with Gase, VJ, and Christensen, then we could possible see a turnaround like SF saw with Harbaugh.

  114. steveccnv says:

    Last time Ross went looking for an HC he was turned down again and again… Then had to sign someone, so Philbin was signed. This time around the team got their first choice, I don’t think that can be overstated.

  115. steveccnv says:

    professorloumiamidolphinsblog says:

    March 26, 2016 at 9:55 am

    Let me just say, the idea that he didn’t have time to throw the ball is a complete and total myth. When you see how many wr’s he had open and was still standing there with the ball in his hand you’re going to be pissed.
    This comment from Lou yesterday is disturbing, if RT can’t fix this he won’t ever be much better than he is now.

  116. jetsssuck says:

    how many of you are eating the kids chocolate easter candy today. Next door kid 5 yr old gave me a chocolate bunny and eggs and before I could eat them she ratted me out to the wife. Being a diabetic sucks this time of year.

  117. wyoming85 says:

    Late round Safety prospects

    Clayton Fejedelem

    Tyvis Powell

  118. New Age says:

    Happy Easter everyone!

    If Gase can make Tannehill better, then we should have a playoff caliber team this year. I think between Washburn and Vance, we have a vastly superior defensive staff this year. Gase has to be better than Philbin. It’s on the players in the end but I like our DL. I like our OL depth better. Just need a few more pieces and would love another solid draft.

  119. son of a son of a shula says:

    Happy Easter bloggers

    Who will it be Paxton Lynch (who my nephew played with) or Connor Cook? Gase has seen the tape drastic measures must be taken.

    Sorry you got busted jetssuck, I’ve been stealing Easter candy for a week now.

  120. Tim Knight says:

    Happy Easter folks. Enjoy the day.

  121. Tim Knight says:

    Which one would you prefer?

    1. OL Jack Conklin (starting guard and depth at tackle)
    2. DE/DT Jonathan Bullard (great fit in our new wide 9 scheme)
    3. CB Xavien Howard (great fit in our new press scheme)
    4. RB Kenyan Drake (explosive player and versatile)

    1. OL Jack Conklin (starting guard and depth at tackle)
    2. LB Kentrell Brothers (competition and depth at LB specifically MLB)
    3. CB Xavien Howard (great fit in our new press scheme)
    4. RB Kenyan Drake (explosive player and versatile)

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      I definitely want CB Howard and RB Drake.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        I like Bullard’s production but worry that he can’t bully pardon the pun NFL OTs like he did college boys and he is not fast or even quick and sudden, so that is a concern.

  122. naplesfan2010 says:

    isn’t brothers too slow and stiff?

    • Tim Knight says:

      He was the only LB that seems like a fit in that range of picks. I prefer the Bullard version.

      I actually think Alonso, Jenkins, Misi, Hewiit, Vigil and Hull could do a solid job. Our DL and secondary is being overhauled. A 90% 2013 Alonso and a 2014 Jenkins makes us better at LB with Hewitt, Vigil and Hull pushing for playing time. Misi is versatile and consistent but he’s now a role player.

      Make the font 4 rotation sick. 2 LBs will be on the field 70-75% of the time anyway. We need more talent at DB.

      There are still questions about Jordan, C. McCain and D. Moore? Right now our DL is Suh, Mitchell and Phillips at DT, and Williams, Wake, Branch and Fede at DE. That’s where it all starts.

      • steveccnv says:

        That’s what I’ve been saying Tim, do we really need all of these LBs when less than 3 are on the field most of the time, but if we did draft Myles Jack, the thought of Jack and Alonso may resemble what Carolina has. Maybe Jordan surprises and he’s that same type of LB. I expect Gase to put Jordan in a position to succeed, if he actually plays this yr.

        Draft Conklin, hope he can play OG, and run the ball all day long, same with Zeke.

        Draft Hargreaves/Alexander and we’re pretty good on the back end.

  123. Rhino says:

    can’t believe I missed the grunge video posts. 😦

  124. steveccnv says:

    Conklin is the best pick for the long haul, not sure about this yr though, unless he can play inside. From what I saw against Alabama he looked good, reminds me of Robert Gallery, once he’s engaged the defender is done, with the difference being Gallery had issues getting in front of someone (speed guys killed him).

  125. steveccnv says:

    I see the NCAA has taken a page out of the NBAs playbook this yr by not showing replays of the play that just happened.

  126. steveccnv says:

    CBS Mock shows the Ravens and the Giants taking OT, Stanley and Conklin, so maybe he isn’t available when we pick. Several have Hargreaves available when we pick. We’ll have a starting type player available to us no matter what happens before we pick.

  127. Mike E. says:

    steveccnv says:
    March 27, 2016 at 7:19 pm (Edit)

    “That’s what I’ve been saying Tim, do we really need all of these LBs?”

    ALL??? We complained all year long our LB’s can’t/won’t/don’t tackle, and ALL we changed was one. Unless you want more of the same shoddy play as last year from the LB corps, I think we best UPGRADE, and not just add a guy who may be compete for a job. We can/should do better than that! What makes you think that things will be different this year, just because Kiko Alonso, who we don’t even know is anywhere near back to what he ONCE was 2 years, and really hasn’t been since? To me, that’s not a question I want answered by us not drafting a top LB. Just my 2 cents.

    • steveccnv says:

      I think we will draft an LB, but it doesn’t have to be with the top pick. Some have us drafting several LBs, we have other needs. It’s also quite possible that Jordan is in the mix at LB too, where he should’ve been playing all along, but someone told him he’s here to rush the passer.

  128. Mike E. says:

    Happy Easter to all who celebrate!

  129. steveccnv says:

    Someone wrote on here, Gase was having Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner work in the weight room to get stronger. I just read we may be also using a power blocking scheme as well as the ZBS in 2016, because the ZBS sucks when the D knows you’re going to run.

    • steveccnv says:

      Gase sat down this past week with Barry Jackson, of the Miami Herald, to discuss his plans for the offensive line. What the coach had to say was telling: “[Getting] back to some old school [techniques] , let’s lift, let’s spend our two hours in the weight room, let’s get these guys bigger, stronger and faster. So, that’s been our big focus. I want to try to give [the trainer] as much time alotted as he’s allowed to get these guys in position, where, when we do start, we can see a difference, we can see a difference physically, in our guys, as far as their strength and being able to come off the ball and move people.”

  130. Mike E. says:


    Where did you get an indication that Jordan is in the mix at LB? I wouldn’t count on him in any case, whether it’s at DE or LB. He’s way too big a question mark, and hard to know if he really has his heart and head in the game. My main point is, it’s not just about getting bodies to compete, we have bodies here, we need better players at LB, but yes, we also need a CB or two, and maybe a DE to groom, but to me, LB is the heart of the issue, and just expecting the magical “wide 9” to solve the problem without upgrading the talent is very risky. If anything, the “wide 9” cries out for solid tackling and good discipline and instincts. I want a LB that’s clearly better than anyone else we have on roster to come in and elevate the play of our defense. If we can get that it in RD 2 or RD 3, great, but I think the odds go down significantly past RD 2 if I’m being honest.

  131. uwantwat says:

    Mike…I think you lose the plot at times. Yes FF is a risk but he has a lot of talent. Do I go with him? Yes, I do. The team has some excellent young talent just waiting for playing time. Our LB corp will be much improved this year without having to draft a lumbering mid talent in Ragland. DE, we have them coming out of our butt, why would we waste yet another 1st rounder on one? There is only 1 position I want us to draft in the 1st round and that is OL. We have to get that fixed once and for all. Whether you take an OT such as Stanley(if he falls to us) or Conklin we have to pull the plug and make it happen. Plenty of good DBs in the 2nd round. Their names have been plastered all over this blog. Fill the draft out by taking RB,OG,LB,DTand a DB. UDFA always have one or two stick. The talent level on this team is good, just upgrade the bottom end players and away we go.

  132. wyoming85 says:

    emanuel80s ‏@emanueleaddondi 15h15 hours ago
    NEW* video @draftbreakdown LT #74 Jack Conklin Vs Alabama(2015)

  133. wyoming85 says:

    Ryan Dukarm ‏@DBRyan_Dukarm 8h8 hours ago
    *NEW* video @draftbreakdown Florida OL (OG Trip Thurman and OT Mason Halter) vs Missouri 2015

  134. uwantwat says:

    Wyo… that Conklin break down is not working for me. Good morning.

  135. Mike E. says:


    I have no problem with us taking an OL in the 1st, but to me, that’s more of a move for next year, not this year. If we’re going by the assumption that everyone we currently have is healthy, we have 2 tackles, in Albert and James, and we have 2 backups in Bushrod and Young. Why do we need an OT now? Unless Conklin would play OG this year, and then maybe OT next year, that works for me, but Albert and James are the 2 tackles, so why draft a backup now? IMO, we need a starting player NOW that helps us NOW.

    • Tim Knight says:

      What I’ve read about Conklin is that he’s much better in tight spaces than out on an island so I’m speculating he could be a guard because they say he doesn’t get pushed around.

    • olddolphan says:

      MIKE E; Part of the reason WE SHOULD take an O-Lineman in round 1 or 2 is the fact that this franchise HAS NOT had a lot of success drafting O-Linemen in the mid-to-late rounds of the draft. THERE IS NO WAY we can have the kind of offense we all want with the current group of guards on our roster. WE MUST improve our O-Line to save what’s left of Tanny’s career or to protect the career of whomever takes his place. And, given the loss of Miller, our O-Line MUST BE BETTER if we are to have a respectable ground game.
      Been working a bunch of 7-day weeks lately. Mrs. OD “persuaded” me to take today off to recharge my batteries!! –I’ll be working conventions in Baltimore, Brandon (Florida) and suburban Chattanooga the next 3 weekends so this old fart needs to be refreshed and raring to go!!
      SO-O-O, back to the draft, IMHO, we need to address glaring needs at LB, DB, Guard, and RB in the first 4 rounds of the draft and in what’s left of free agency. Some holes MAY have already been plugged (“SHOW ME” of course). But other big holes remain. The ONLY demand I’d make of this front office is that they take the best O-Lineman available either in round 1 or round 2. And I’d supplement the O-Line with ANOTHER selection in round 5 or 6, given Brandon Albert’s propensity to miss games almost every season. WE ALL want to believe that this front office IS CAPABLE of having a very productive draft. But after seven consecutive non-winning seasons, it is hard to believe that what used to be the “DOOFUS BRIGADE” has been transformed into one of the best organizations in the NFL. Ross, Tannenbaum, and the rest of the front office STILL HAVE TO SHOW ME!!!

  136. Mike E. says:


    So you’re saying that Conklin’s best suited for OG? How many teams draft an OG at #13? I know the Cowboys took Zack Martin, but most teams don’t take a G that early. It’s crazy, because you know I want to fix the O-line, but I also don’t want to take a pure OG at #13. I think there are a few OG’s who we could get a round or even 2 RD’s later, like Garnett, Westerman, Alexander, all who may be starters now. It’s tough, because Conklin has only played OT, but most likely could play inside too.

    • Mike E. says:

      You could add Whitehair too, he might be a 2nd RD pick. I still think it’s probably a CB we take in RD 1.

    • Tim Knight says:

      It’s just an option. I don’t have any must approaches in this draft because there are so many ways we can go. I tried to mix it up rather than the same type positions that get posted here in most of the mocks.

  137. wyoming85 says:

  138. wyoming85 says:

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 1h1 hour ago
    NFL Draft is one month from tonight…

  139. Mike E. says:


    There’s no doubt there are so many different ways to approach this draft. I’m very curious to see which way we go.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’m also going to look at this draft as a whole not necessarily which position went where. The defense is going to look quite different when it’s all said and done. The offense as we know needs to get better play from its guards and more durability overall along with another RB. Other than that the offense has what it needs to go play.

      • olddolphan says:

        Been hearing something like that for 7 consecutive years, Tim. See my comments up the page.

  140. uwantwat says:

    Mike, you stock up OL, Conklin is a good one. Bushrod and Albert are getting older, he is the LT of the future. Douglas, Turner and Thomas still battling to be starting OGs. Conklin should beat those 3 out to move inside. Young and the youngsters are BU at this stage. We have to get this OL fixed #1 priority.

  141. Al in MIA says:

    Conklin has plenty of good tape vs high level opponents. Just watch what Conklin does to Buckner and the rest of Oregon front 7 in their match up. This guy just goes after it on every play. I read this in Dane Brugler’s (nfldraftscout) analysis of him and it pretty much sums up what i’ve seen of Conklin -> “Rarely plays in reverse. Smart and instinctive, understanding protections and using his eyes to pick up extra pressures. Feisty and always looking for someone to block, displaying a dependable playing temperament. ”
    I didn’t think much of Conklin 2 months ago but when I saw highlights of Buckner vs MSU, I was like “man, #74 is a beast”. I saw other games of him and MSU and said “whew, this guy is a pit bull OL”.
    I don’t think he will be BPA at #13 but he definitely fullfills team need at the position (OG/OT). I wouldn’t be disappointed in his selection.

  142. Al in MIA says:

    Mike E. says:
    March 28, 2016 at 10:04 am


    There’s no doubt there are so many different ways to approach this draft. I’m very curious to see which way we go.
    I just hope Adam Gase talks to Grier/Tannenbaum the way he talks to the media (not afraid to state his opinion and firmly sticks to his guns).

  143. Mike E. says:


    I begged for us to take an OT that we could move to OG last year for months before the draft, and was I right that our O-line was a problem?

  144. Mike E. says:


    You know I want a strong OL, but we have 2 tackles in place for this season, and we now have 2 backups. We can just as easily draft an OT next year. The only way I see getting value of taking an OT now, is if he starts at OG for us this year, and then we let Albert go, and he starts at LT.

  145. Tim Knight says:

    OD, Ireland really screwed up the OL in 2013 and then bullygate happened so we basically had to rebuild the entire OL. The only guys who returned in 2014 were Pouncey, Thomas, Garner and Brenner and only one still here are Pouncey and Thomas. Hickey was forced into putting a lot of resources into the OL his first two years. We’re still trying to solidify the OL this year because of that. We also had some injury setbacks with Albert, Pouncey and James. We need those three healthy for once.

  146. uwantwat says:

    Mike… Tim got it right injuries killed us on the OL. Turner,Thomas and Douglas all played LT in college. Our BUs were piss weak, Fox,Brenner &co. needed to be replaced by blokes who can step in and play at the required level. This hasn’t in the last few years, in fact since Grove and Smiley got hurt. Now that OL was jumping.
    I’m happy to have Albert Pouncey and James then 2 starters out of whoever is left over. Let Bushrod, Conklin, and the 5 leftovers battle it out for the spots. What I don’t want to see is us chasing other teams leftovers during the late cuts period.

  147. jetsssuck says:

    Envoyé par Courrier pour Windows 10

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    Objet :FW: A Few Personal thoughts For 2016

    Subject: A Few Personal thoughts For 2016

    To all you seniors out there and those still working on achieving that goal.


    My goal for 2016 was to lose just 10 pounds. Only 15 to go.

    Ate salad for dinner! Mostly croutons & tomatoes. Really just one big, round crouton covered with tomato sauce. And cheese. FINE, it was a pizza. I ate a pizza.

    How to prepare Tofu:

    1. Throw it in the trash.

    2. Grill some Meat.

    I just did a week’s worth of cardio after walking into a spider web.

    I don’t mean to brag but……I finished my 14-day diet in 3 hours and 20 minutes.

    A recent study has found that women who carry a little extra weight live longer than men who mention it.

    Kids today don’t know how easy they have it. When I was young, I had to walk 9 feet through shag carpet to change the TV channel.

    Senility has been a smooth transition for me.

    Remember back when we were kids and every time it was below zero out they closed school?

    Me neither.

    I may not be that funny or athletic or good looking or smart or talented….I forgot where I was going with this.

    I love being over 50. I learn something new every day…….and forget 5 others.

    A thief broke into my house last night……He started searching for money so I woke up and searched with him.

    My dentist told me I need a crown. I was like: I KNOW !, Right?

    I think I’ll just put an “Out of Order” sticker on my forehead and call it a day.

    PS: Sunday, March 13, 2016 began Daylight Savings Time. Hope you remembered to set your bathroom scale back 10 pounds on Saturday night.

    Stay positive !!

  148. uwantwat says:

    JS…I never got back to you the other night. I live in Adelaide, capital of South Australia.

  149. Al in MIA says:

    steveccnv says:
    March 27, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    Someone wrote on here, Gase was having Dallas Thomas and Billy Turner work in the weight room to get stronger. I just read we may be also using a power blocking scheme as well as the ZBS in 2016, because the ZBS sucks when the D knows you’re going to run.
    There are varieties between types of ZBS schemes run -> Outside Zone (what Pitt primarily runs) & Inside Zone (Eagles under Kelly). But as Tim always points on regarding defensive schemes (3-4 vs 4-3 is overrated), the same applies to offense and offensive lines specifically. At the end of the day, the best teams are the ones that are most flexible and can execute in various formations/schemes. The Patriots run inside zone often but they also run power base when they get near the endzone. It’s all about execution (cliche but true). Coaches have to come through with coaching and teach our guys to communicate effectively and also have the player recognize how to play in certain situations.

  150. uwantwat says:

    I stuck a wasted space sticker on a mate’s forehead a few years back while he was passed out drunk. It became his wife’s most treasured picture.

  151. Randy says:

    Thoughts on the draft:
    While you’d always love to get an immediate impact player, Is this team at a point where we can’t build for 2 or 3 years from now with pick #13? At #8 I would have tried to get an impact player or used it to get more picks. I guess it depends on where you feel the team is. I wouldn’t be too troubled if they took a DE who may not pay big dividends for a couple years if they see a big role for him down the road. Or, possibly, even a guard, but I don’t see one I’d take at #13. Much better value elsewhere, and you know I’m always up for drafting OL! Lol A tackle you hope can play guard and slide to tackle later? Always a risk, and you may end up hurting 2 positions on your team if the guy doesn’t pan out…guard and, at the least, backup LT.
    As I’ve said before, I’m fine with whatever they do in this draft. We have so many needs, and it’s an average draft. I’d say 3-5 really top end talent at best…maybe another 10 that are 1st round guys….and then a lot of 2nd and 3rd round talent. DL is deep. They’re gonna get snatched up quick. We could see a lot of trades this year.
    I never get too caught up in any one player, anyway. I’m leaning towards BPA with an eye towards DE/CB….and willing to trade back if the guy they want is gone at #13. Just my .02 worth.

  152. uwantwat says:

    Randy…your .02 cents worth is as good as anyone’s on this board.

  153. The Flying Pig says:

    New blog up in 2 mins

  154. The Flying Pig says:

    new blog up now
    Wedge the College Years/Robert Nkemdiche

  155. Randy says:

    Thanks! But, what the hell is a wasted space sticker? I read that post and said; wtf? Lol
    One of my favorite pics of all time was of a buddy who had a love letter to his hand…written on his hand…as he lay passed out in a condo in Colorado on a week of skiing with the guys. It covered his whole palm and onto his wrist. The poor bastard slept thru all of it. He refused to look at the pics afterwards. That was only one of many. Lol

  156. Al in MIA says:

    I was catching up with some of the comments written over the last few days.
    Love many of the Soundgarden songs (Down on the upside !) Kim Thayil is a beast with his axe.
    Speaking of Audioslave, Tom Morello took to the stage and provided some guitar sounds for one of the acts at the Ultra electronic music festival that took place in Miami two weekends ago.

  157. uwantwat says:

    Randy… we got a piece of paper wrote “This is a wasted space” on it and stuck it to his forehead using sticky tape. LOL He was not impressed. We all thought he was dumb anyway.

  158. Al in MIA says:

    “As I’ve said before, I’m fine with whatever they do in this draft. We have so many needs, and it’s an average draft. I’d say 3-5 really top end talent at best”
    “I never get too caught up in any one player, anyway. I’m leaning towards BPA with an eye towards DE/CB….and willing to trade back if the guy they want is gone at #13. Just my .02 worth.”

    My thoughts exactly.
    Ramsey, Tunsil, Jack are the only elite Pro Bowl type / HOF traits type guys I see at this point.
    Maybe Goff as well but the QB position is such a crap shoot.
    Bosa i’m up in the air about. On film he wins with technique and power. How that works against NFL OT, who knows. He gives me that Vernon type feel; I’m not sold on him. He looks the part though and is definitely way more cockier than Vernon (seen a negative by some but guys who are great are generally cocky in some way because that’s how they motivate themselves in a stressful environment such as a NFL football game).
    I’d like to see Miami work the draft to pick up more 2nd-3rd RD picks; this team needs talent at too many positions.
    Perhaps they can move down just a little in RD 1 and take William Jackson III.

  159. Al in MIA says:

    I’ll get back to Myles Jack in a minute but I wanted to post something I saw from Paul Perkins and why he’s my fav back for Miami in this draft:

  160. Al in MIA says:

    Here’s a reminder to those who think Myles Jack doesn’t have any power (it’s all about leverage)
    He’s the LB on the bottom hash mark hitting back the OL at the 16 yd line of this play.

  161. Al in MIA says:

    In terms of RB, someone like Keith Marshall who has injury risk attached to him will be a steal for someone in the way Ajayi was for Miami last year.

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