The Wedge Scouting Report: Deion Jones, LB

a boo boo booo boo bah

a weee weee weee wah

Oh hey there…just ignore the baby talk its not for you…Its for this little cutie

WedewithB abyAlien

Adorable isn’t he!

These little Corozar Bay Moon Babies are the cuties things in the universe

a boo boo boo bah…(Wedge shakes a rattle)

Mine?  No no.  I picked this little guy up and about 3000 more as my latest weapon.

You see, the idea is you land on an unsuspecting planet you want to destroy and you give them the “please take my baby” bit.  Who can resist?  Look how adorable he is with his big sad eyes.  Then you fly off and leave the baby behind.

Then after dark…

BabySpaceAlien in Space

Its a whole different baby

On average A Corozar Bay Moon Baby can eat about 60 square miles, inhabited or not, in a 48 hour period.  Pretty impressive!  These little guys have a rabid appetite.

So you have to make a few landings on the planet of you want it devoured within a week.

These babies and there appetite remind me of the attacking linebacker I want the Dolphins to draft.


Deion Jones is one of those linebackers.

The LSU Linebacker was a force for the Tigers in 2015.

Its easy to miss talent like Jones on a talented team like LSU.

LSU puts so much talent in the NFL you should not overlook anyone on their roster.


The 6’1 222 pund linebacker might seem small to some, but that did not stop him from racking up 100 tackles, 13.5 for a loss.

That was his only year starting for LSU.  Jones didn’t start until Kwon Alexander left for the NFL in 2015.  Hey Kown Alexander?  Didn’t I do a scouting report on him last year?

Yep!  And ironically many scouts compare Jones to Alexander.

NCAA Football: Louisiana State at Mississippi State

At the combine Jones caught the attention of the NFL by running a 4.59 40 yard dash.

He also had a 33 inch vertical jump and a 120 inch broad jump at the combine.

But it was his pro day that really set him apart and has him moving up[ the boards.

Deion Jones ran a blazing 4.38 40 yard dash at his pro day.  WOW!

He also upped his vertical jump by 2 1/2 inches and did 18 reps on the bench press.


I know some Dolfans are looking forward to drafting Jones on day 3 of the draft.

But the secret is out.

I’m expecting Deion Jones to be drafted by the time round 3 is over.

So if the Dolphins want this attacking linebacker – they will have to make that move early.


Just like the people who adopt this adorable baby should get the fuck off their planet before it gets dark!

If Deion Jones was an alien weapon of destruction…

he would be the deadly Corozar Bay Moon Baby!


Lookout NFL!

You can watch Jones against Florida here:

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979 Responses to The Wedge Scouting Report: Deion Jones, LB

  1. Rockphin says:

    but talking like it’s a forgone conclusion that we are a better team because we have those two guys is something that just boggles the mind.

    What boggles my mind is how someone can assume the polar opposite (we “still” suck) for the EXACT same reason. We haven’t seen them on the field together, this year. So yeah you are right, those fans on here who prefer to go into the season with a positive outlook don’t know any more than you what is going to happen this season, but you are ASS U Ming as well.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Maxwell fits the press scheme Gase and VJ want to play on defense and Alonzo is our best LB if he’s 100%.

  2. Tim Knight says:

    So let me ask y’all this? If RT makes great strides this season, we should be okay with Thomas, Turner, Douglas and whomever at guard because they’re fine because it’s all on RT. So we don’t need to draft OL, just focus on defense and more skill players. Fair enough?

    • Mike E. says:

      We don’t need anyone on defense either, we have Suh. I don’t even know why we bother putting 10 other guys out there. lol

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Douglas was a rookie and Turner a first year starter. I see guys all around the league get better every year why can’t they? Plus we got Bushrod too.

      • Rockphin says:

        That is all our hopes as well. We are one of the youngest teams in the league, the YOUNGEST in the AFCE some of our guys WILL develop into good players. Like they always do. I just hope they are on OUR team when they do…..

  3. finfanrob says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    April 19, 2016 at 8:14 pm

    Not true and I don’t have hate. I like Tannehill but he makes me fucking crazy, mad and incensed.

    ok, sorry my bad for saying hate but you still said what i meant. he makes you so crazy, mad and incensed sometimes you lost reality. you go off blaming him to no end and sometimes just not rationale about it. i dont see anyone going off defending him to the extent the haters go off blaming him.

  4. Rockphin says:

    You guys are rich. LOL over 4000 yards passing, double TD’s to Ints over 61% completions, in the top of the league in deep pass completion and he “shit the bed”

    • Rockphin says:

      Here comes the obligatory 6-10 comment, and that stats don’t tell the story. We have some Trained Eyes on here like Omar….

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      And only 1, just one for the entire season, 4th qtr TD pass when we were within 7 points. Along with only 1 meaningful 4th qtr FG attempt for the year.

      • naplesfan2010 says:

        and a losing record HC who got fired and an OC who got fired and it was his first ever attempt to be a OC and a rookie QB coach who was a fired OC’s son and a DC who got fired while transforming Ndamukong fucking suh into ordinary, so no help from that side of the ball either.
        OH and the replacement HC was a very young TE coach who had only ever worked in Miami for two fired HCs.

        No help there for RT.

      • Rockphin says:

        Last Two Minutes of Half 95 56 58.9 749 7.9 47 7 4 36 37.9 13 14 91.1

        He had 8 4th quarter TD’s last year

        He had a 91.1 rating in the last 2 mins of a half last year.

        Maybe the fact that Miller only ran for 31 attempts in the fourth quarter all YEAR (less than two per game!) and we had goofball “I’m smarter than the other coaches, “I will call a reverse followed by a bubble screen again, they won’t expect that!” Lazor calling plays might have had something to do with it?

  5. finfanrob says:

    son of a son of a shula says:
    April 19, 2016 at 8:29 pm

    And only 1, just one for the entire season, 4th qtr TD pass when we were within 7 points. Along with only 1 meaningful 4th qtr FG attempt for the year.

    well hell. i didnt know that. maybe you are right. he sucks. how dare him and him alone not score more 4th qtr td’s. i mean you see brady do it all the time. amazing how he can block the d line, snap the ball to himself then throw it down field and run and catch it and score. sometimes it is just unfair how he alone can beat 11 guys

  6. naplesfan2010 says:

    Let’s ignore a historically terrible OL for a minute. LOL yeah right.

    RT last year overcame a losing record HC who got fired and an OC who got fired and it was his first ever attempt to be a OC and a rookie QB coach who was a fired OC’s son and a DC who got fired while transforming Ndamukong fucking suh into ordinary, so no help from that side of the ball either.
    OH and the replacement HC was a very young TE coach who had only ever worked in Miami for two fired HCs.

    No help there for RT.
    Who else had to lead an NFL team with no coaching staff above a raw green position coach?

  7. Tim Knight says:

    LOL, we all saw the jail breaks too many times in our blocking schemes. That has to end for anything to move forward. It happened to the RBs too. You can’t run everything out of shogun. It puts the OL on their heels from the get go and gives the defense a definitive target. It’s a bad philosophy unless you’re lighting up the scoreboard with it.

  8. finfanrob says:

    naples and rock,

    again like i said. when some are so emotionally involved with the dislike facts dont matter. all that matters is they cant stand the player. they arent making a decision based on their head they are making it based on emotion.

    and anyone that has every dealt with a woman knows you just cant argue rationally with one who makes decisions based on emotion.

  9. Rockphin says:

    Alright, I spent the last hour reading the older comments, now I have caught up to the present and need to go. LOL Nogtih all!

  10. son of a son of a shula says:

    You guys can’t resist it. You fucking live for it and yearn for it. Lying in wait for the sucker to say something Tannehill so you can turn on the machine. Y’all know how I feel so I made a throw away statement earlier and here we are.

    I hope we draft Cook and let the chips fall where they may. Have fun with that. You fucking vultures you fucking Tanne-crack smokers

  11. naplesfan2010 says:

    for the record,
    I think we beat SF and the Browns and some other lucky “on any Sunday” game and go 3-14.
    Maybe we tie Tennessee.

  12. Rockphin says:

    Lamar Miller. 1.93 carries per game average in the forth quarter last year.

  13. Rockphin says:

    And there is the irrational emotional explosion to prove Son is actually Daughter of a daughter of a daughter of shula!

  14. finfanrob says:

    lmfao. ok so there you have it. basically son says he can make any comment he wants and just dont respond to him cause it may hurt his feelings.

    i think suh is the biggest FA bust in the history of the nfl. he is maybe the 4th best d linemen on the fins. i would spend every draft pick on the d line to replace that fraud of a player.

    now no one respond to my outrageous comment with facts or i may get my feelings hurt.

    • naplesfan2010 says:

      Emmitt Smith rarely completed a forward pass, so he should not be in the HOF cuz he is just not versatile.

  15. Rockphin says:

    LOL Ok I’m really going now. Nogtih all

  16. finfanrob says:

    Rockphin says:
    April 19, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    (actually he is a really cool guy in person, just has irrational Tanny hate. )

    pretty much what i have been saying. his hate even gets him to make troll like comments (I hope we draft Cook and let the chips fall where they may.) no way in hell anyone thinks that is the solution but let me just say this cause i am so blinded by emotion

  17. finfanrob says:

    naplesfan2010 says:
    April 19, 2016 at 8:55 pm

    Cook is a hack. He won’t have more than a decent NFL back-up career.

    that doesnt matter. all that matters is the pure dislike of tanny and not caring about anything else but replacing him. even to the sense of being irrational

  18. naplesfan2010 says:

    I would love to draft Zeke E, but I would settle for Jackson III.

  19. naplesfan2010 says:

    If we don’t get Zeke, I want to draft TWO RBs. It is our greatest position of need. There are no good options for us already in the NFL unless we can maybe get a semi-healthy yr out of Arian.
    There are a bunch of excellent options in this draft class.

  20. BoulderPhinfan says:

    next year’s schedule looks very daunting. I think even tannenbaum is looking to 2017 or bust. That’s how the salary cap situation is lining up. Big spending in 2017

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Almost all the moves they made sort of scream 2017. But 2016 is a valuable season to evaluate the coaches and build

      You can’t make a contender in one offseason
      the moves we make this offseason matter – even if we are able to make bigger bolder moves in 2017

      We can’t afford to say – its 2017, now lets makeover the team again
      we have to make moves now
      and build on them in 2017
      and in 2018 and so on and so on

  21. naplesfan2010 says:

    My fave combo is Collins and Drake, but I would also enjoy Prosise and Marshall.

  22. getterdone says:

    Glad I missed the fun. LOL @ you guys!

  23. finfanrob says:

    naplesfan2010 says:
    April 19, 2016 at 9:05 pm

    If we don’t get Zeke, I want to draft TWO RBs.
    thats a good idea and:
    2 def ends
    2 lbs
    2 d backs
    2 o linemen
    2 qb’s
    2 wr’s
    and not sure if you can draft coaches or not but what the hell
    2 coordinators
    and just for OD
    2 owners

  24. Tim Knight says:

    Maybe we should wait for the 53 man roster in September. Just saying. 🙂

  25. The Flying Pig says:

    I see since I left the conversation went south in Tannehill debate again……lol

    What happened to debate about quality Linebackers to play behind Suh and our new Wide 9

    Sorry guys but I completely agree with what Prof Lou said – if we don’t improve our LB group we are going to get killed in the Wide 9

    We need guys who are going to fill the gaps our DL leaves open

    And for the record I do think CB, OL, DE and RB are needs as well

    but if our LBs come up short next year, everything is lost
    so that group needs a dramatic makeover from 2015

    I don’t think adding Kiko Alonso is enough by itself

    get me some attacking LBs

    • Tim Knight says:

      SOLB – Misi/Hewitt
      MLB – Alonso/Vigil
      WOLB – Jenkins/Hull

      Draft a LB to join the mix. I bet Alonso and Jenkins/Hewitt are the two nickel LBs most of the time. 🙂

      • The Flying Pig says:

        I can’t imagine building g a dominant defense with that depth chart at LB

        We need at least 1 LB to push to start

      • we really need to find 2 LB’s. Even if Alonso is the answer at one of the positions, Misi has been on life support forever and pretty much everything else we’ve got there is rotational guys with Vigil, Hull and Hewitt. We need to get some really good players at the linebacker position.

      • we played with our DE’s in the 9 a good portion of the time on run downs last season and it’s one of the reasons why teams like the Jets gashed us. Our LB was horrible against the run in those situations and it’s the usual suspects. How do you get better at a position if you’re just going to run with the same people all the time? You can’t. When you’re getting killed in the run game and a good part of the reason is because of the play of your LB’s you need to upgrade. Our LB’s have been shit for a LONG time.

  26. The Flying Pig says:


    Are you not a fan of Ajayi
    I tend to think we need 1 RB to split carries with Ajayi
    not 2

    if we drafted Elliot, I tend to think Ajayi plays a really reduced role
    but other than that – I see the RB we draft (hopefully we draft 1) splitting carries with Ajayi and probably starting the season as the #2 behind Ajayi

    2 RBs is a little too much for me
    especially since I want to draft a buch of defensive players too…

    • I prefer Dixon but I’d also be very happy with either Booker or Collins. I would hope we’d be able to do a deal w/Philly that would net us Matthews relatively cheap; especially if they end up drafting Elliot with their (our) #8 pick.

  27. Tim Knight says:

    If we trade up for Elliot it is pure BPA.

    • If we trade up for Elliot it’s pure stupidity. If the team were a few players away from being extremely competitive and one of those players happened to be a running back then it’s a different story. But, just like signing Suh did shit for the success of the team, drafting Elliot isn’t going to make a huge difference either.
      The big thing was we got Maxwell and Alonso in the trade from Philly and it didn’t cost us anything. It did cost us something because it cost us draft position. We probably don’t even have a shot at Lawson now because he may even go top ten. Then, to trade back up and lose draft picks just to get a rb is complete and total stupidity. Unlike Miller, Elliot can’t create anything on his own. The run Miller had against the Giants is a perfect example. Elliot can run with some power but most of his best runs came because he had huge holes in the line where they needed to be.
      No way I trade up to get him. If anything, I trade up to get Lawson or Jack before Elliot

      • Tim Knight says:

        Okay. You are one person with one view point. Like the rest of us.

        We’re a week a way. 🙂

      • defense win championships. you don’t pass up the opportunity to draft a top defensive player to draft a running back when you can get a rb later in the draft who can split carries with Ajayi and give you a very effective running game. Offensive line still needs to execute it’s blocks and when OSU’s blew holes you drive a Mack truck thru for Elliot he took advantage of it but he still had plenty of runs for little or no gain.

  28. Lance Zierlein Verified account 
    Don’t be shocked if Ogbah slides all the way into the third round. Three teams have confirmed that possibility to me.

  29. Randy says:

    I’m gonna slap Tannenbaum in the face with the slimy, smelly old rubber dildo under ffr’s couch if we trade back up in this draft to take a RB. That right there would be enough for me to fire his ass on the spot after trading with Philly and taking two questionable players they were gonna dump anyway AND giving them our top 10 pick….especially in a draft where all the value is in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. And, if it’s no big deal to drop from 8 to 13 in the first place(yeah right)…why the hell would you give up picks to move back up again? Please God let them not be that stupid.

  30. uwantwat says:

    This LB class is shit. I just read that BR/report and was appalled by the quality available. If Zeke is there @13 we will take him for sure, if not Conklin will be the pick. I have read all your choices and have come to the conclusion that, like me you are all full of shit and are guessing like I am.

  31. Rockphin says:

    Good morning Lee ( or rather good evening depending on which side of this greeting you are on)

  32. 81Howie says:

    getterdone says:
    April 19, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    Lest you not forget, Swept by the Bravos!
    Tim Knight says:
    April 19, 2016 at 7:04 pm

    It’s a long season.
    And it can only get worse… Looks like I can stop watching by May this season

  33. Brian in NY says:

    8 more days until we can stop arguing about what we need and who to draft and then we can start arguing about what we still need and who we drafted.

  34. jetsssuck says:

    420 day.

  35. olddolphan says:

    RANDY’s comments start with “I’m gonna slap Tannenbaum right in the face with an old, slimy, smelly, rubber dildo” and he ends with “please god let them not be that stupid.”
    Well, Randy, GET READY because T-Baum and the rest of “THE DOOFUS BRIGADE” are, indeed, THAT STUPID!!!! STEVE ROSS’s tenure as owner has been marked by one poor decision after another!! – – And T-Baum’s last 3 seasons as an NFL executive have been among the worst in recent NFL history!! – – While some on this board think Miami’s current leadership is capable of making excellent choices, my opinion is that the 2016 season likely will be YET ANOTHER FAILED SEASON IN A LONG LIST OF FAILED SEASONS!! Will there be a couple of nice draft picks by Miami? Probably “yes.” Will there be ENOUGH nice draft picks to lift the Dolphins into the playoffs and make them legitimate Super Bowl contenders?? – – – NOT A CHANCE!!!!!!!
    THIS FRANCHISE IS DOOMED TO FAILURE until Ross, T-Baum, and the rest of the front office is replaced by an entirely new regime with new people from top to bottom. And please, NO MORE NEW YORK REAL ESTATE GUYS at the top of this franchise!! Yes, I know, Ross is coming up on 76 and looks 90. He has already chosen his heir apparent — a younger version of himself!! Well Steve Ross may think he and his fellow real estate tycoons who live in New York are best able to run a south Florida franchise. I say “LOOK AT HIS RECORD!!”–no way!

  36. Mike E. says:

    Anyone here have ESPN insider? If so, could you let me know. Appreciate it!

  37. Ken says:

    Anyone else see Ross in the background when Trump was delivering his victory speech last night? As if I needed another reason to hate Ross

  38. stangerx says:

    Ross was on the stage with Trump? Might be just business. They are both NY real estate folks.

    Heard a funny story yesterday from my cousin. Her brother was a brilliant guy (1580 on this SATS) who made a buttload by pretty much reinventing the reinsurance industry. Sadly he passed away about ten years ago from AIDs. Yeah he was gay but he was one that took no shiiiiot.

    He’s president of the board of the highest end charity in Telluride (as much a ski playground for the rich as Aspen). Trump wants to get on the board to build his position in the community.

    He calls up my cousin and says, “How much do I have to pay to get on the board.” (Keep in mind even if that happens you don’t do it that way).

    They went back and forth with Trump pressing for a price, and finally my cous goes, “$250,000.”

    Trump asks why the price is so much higher than what he used to paying for such.

    The answer: “Well that’s the price for someone as obnoxious as you.”

  39. so Kiper goes from hyping the big trade up by Miami to take Elliot to him now saying Elliot will drop to the Cowboys in the 2nd rd.

  40. getterdone says:

    Reading where the Eagles want to trade up further to the #2 Browns pick with another boatload of overcompensation.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      adam schefler was on espn this morning talking about it

      he says the browns are sitting on the offer right now
      eagles not offering more at this time
      he didn’t say what the offer was

      but I bet its just a 2nd round pick, maybe a little more

      • getterdone says:

        It was reported Tuesday that the two teams had agreed to the framework of a trade, which would net the Browns the No. 8 overall pick, two 2016 third-rounders, and the Eagles’ first- and third-round picks in 2017 in exchange for the No. 2 overall selection. But, according to Schefter, the price to move up from 8 to 2 wouldn’t be nearly that high.

      • Tim Knight says:

        The Eagles don’t have a 2nd rd pick. There is also a 1,200 point difference between the 2nd and 8th pick. It’s gonna take some picks from next year or players to move up to #2.

      • Marvez is saying 1st and 3rd this yr and next

      • Who’s running that Brown’s draft, Kevin Costner?

  41. Tim Knight says:

    LOL @ GD and Piggy on Trump

  42. D says:

    IMO its the slow and inevitable realization he will get the nomination. There have been staunch republicans you have really opposed Trump as things have gone along that are coming around and endorsing him because its better to unify the party than divide it. Ross may have always supported him or he may have just now flipped over. I really dont know. Still its outside the scrutiny of him as an owner or that his political affiliations actually affect his business judgement.

    My personal feelings is i just cant find it in myself to support someone that on my wn principals i do not agree with, so for this reason i will not support him as the nominee in general election. It may be that i will find a independent i actually like and will vote that way, but it may also be just as likely i will abstain from voting since this year offers no one i can feel good about supporting. Its by far the worst selection of presidential candidates i have ever seen.

    • stangerx says:

      D — it ain’t over yet. But am with you on the choice if he runs. And I voted for Reagan first time around and every GOP since. Used to be a no-brainer.

  43. Tim Knight says:

    Mike, here’s Kiper’s top 3 for us.

    Here were Kiper’s “Grade A” selections for the Miami Dolphins:
    Round 1 (No. 13): Ohio State LB Darron Lee
    Round 2 (No. 42): Baylor CB Xavien Howard
    Round 3 (No. 73): Cal WR Kenny Lawler

    • D says:

      He must teach at a SPED school for those to be grade A,

    • Tim Knight says:

      Who does McShay like for Miami? Let’s examine.

      Round 1 (No. 13): Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson
      Round 2 (No. 42): Kendall Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
      Round 3 (No. 73): Kenneth Dixon, RB, Louisiana Tech

  44. D says:

    I cant see Eagles, with Bradford on their roster, feeling motivated to give up that much to move up and draft a QB. This has to be pre-draft bullshit to drive the demand to move up higher. It would be more likely the 49’ers would make a all out pitch to move to two than the Eagles, and even they arent so desperate to make that move they should give up their future to get Goff. It makes a little more sense but its all pretty damn stupid. To me, despite the MASSIVE distance between the picks, Denver is probably a better candidate, because they can afford to, with their lack of strong team needs, sacrifice a bunch of picks to move up and they would stand the most to gain from it since they are a more complete team and just needing an adequate QB to let them win by way of a strong defense again this year.

  45. getterdone says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 20, 2016 at 11:24 am
    I can visualize steam coming from Piggy’s nostrils when you champion Trump. LOL

    Tim, I’m more championing for someone, anyone, that can be the babyruth bar in the fancy cushy swimming pool full of a malfeasance plutocracy.
    I loved Ron Paul as being that guy last couple of ‘selections’. But he was easily swatted aside by their prodigious power.
    Trump is the only one I’ve ever seen that I can remember that seems capable of withstanding the cabal’s onslaught of subterfuge.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I know where you stand.

      • getterdone says:

        Yes, I stand for real change. Even if it’s wrong & Trump is a liar.
        But we as a nation can’t keep going down this disastrous path with the same lying insider power structure.
        Trump has them freaked out & they’re doing cartwheels for a reason. He’s an unwelcomed guest to their lil tight knit club that has sustained them & their families for several decades.
        Time to crash their party!!!

  46. wyoming85 says:

    emanuel80s ‏@emanueleaddondi 2h2 hours ago View translation
    NEW* video @draftbreakdown LB #1 Jatavis Brown vs Oklahoma (2015)

  47. finfanrob says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 20, 2016 at 11:24 am

    I can visualize steam coming from Piggy’s nostrils when you champion Trump. LOL

    nothing gets the blog more steamed then the T’s…..tanny or trump

  48. New Age says:

    Lawson is probably my fav option at #13 even though Elliot is my fav player in the +7 range. I think we all are too focused on a few certain players. Having good coaching and the right scheme seems so much more important. Only one of the Legion of Boom was a high pick(M13 boy). So, somehow, they were able to build their backfield with late talent. In fact, Seattle’s drafts the past 6-7 years have been pretty awful outside the Wilson one.

    • getterdone says:

      Great points. I have been harping on coaching, scheme, game planning, play design, & play calling for some time.
      Hope this Gase regime can pull 53 guys together on Sunday’s!

      • New Age says:

        It’s amazing how ‘poorly’ Seattle has drafted to be so good. If you get the right guys, it really doesn’t matter from where you get them. Some of the best players for Seattle the past few years have been FAs. It’s not and never has been all about the draft. It can’t be. The draft is a luckfest.

  49. finfanrob says:


    i think tbaum is more just a OD hatred thing. most dont get a steamed up with him as they do tannytrump

    • getterdone says:

      I’m on the fence with Tbomb, hence why I keep referring to him that way.
      I hope he’s learned from mistakes of the past. But he does worry me since he got fired by the jests after blowing 3 of his final 4 first round draft picks on Mark Sanchez, Kyle Wilson & Quinton Coples.

  50. wyoming85 says:

    Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 40m40 minutes ago
    RE: William Jackson III (CB-Houston)…had a scout compare him to Malcolm Butler. Said he wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the 2nd CB drafted

    • getterdone says:

      I think he’s gained traction over Alexander. I like Artie Burns as the 2nd or 3rd best. I see Alexander sliding some.

  51. Tim Knight says:

    New Age, I’ve been saying something similar on how to build a team. At the end of the day it’s all about what your 53 man looks like, not how you got there.

    • New Age says:

      Yep, too much evidence to think otherwise. I see teams like Seattle and NE get the most out of later picks. I see them screw up the draft a lot. You need a better system than the other guy. You need to hit on a few top players from somewhere. That’s it. The blueprint is there. We just need our guys to stay healthy, or have better backups this year. The gameplan has to be better than the other team.

  52. getterdone says:

    Newage, you’re correct. We all hate the pompous Pete Carroll, like a Trump. But he’s assembled quite good coaching staffs over the years in Seattle & seems to find a way to get it done.

  53. D says:

    getterdone says:
    April 20, 2016 at 12:14 pm
    I don’t see Denver moving that far from 31 > 2. I see them as possibly moving up mid round for Lynch
    GD i doubt it as well, but if they are looking for a guy with franchise potential, if they are looking for getting that guy THIS year, then they need to shoot for 1 or 2, the rest are just too far off right now and thats including Lynch, who may well develop into the best of the bunch, but right now he is no where near as NFL ready.

    • D says:

      Conner Cook is more NFL ready than Lynch, he just doesnt have the ceiling that Lynch has.

      • D says:

        Also on the subject of Cook, i completely wouldnt put it out of possibilities that he could be our selecting in the 2nd. This isnt trying to rattle the cages of you Tannyites, but im pretty sure he was the interview they had at combine they seemed to be so impressed with. I think ill be disappointed if i hear his name called day 2 for us, but i dont at all think ill be shocked.

      • Tim Knight says:

        So what you’re saying is he’ll always be a cook and never a chef? 😉

      • D says:


  54. D says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 20, 2016 at 1:34 pm
    So what you’re saying is he’ll always be a cook and never a chef?😉
    Meh, maybe a Grillardin, possibly even a Saucier, definately no head or sous chef

  55. getterdone says:

    With Moore resigned to a 2yr deal & most of the $3.5M being guaranteed, than I don’t see why the Phins would want to draft a QB until day 3 or beyond.

    • getterdone says:

      I’d like to get Jeff Driskel with a 6th or one of the 7th round picks, but I fear he’ll go a lil sooner. The need for big & strong armed QB’s is too strong around the league with so many failures everywhere.

    • Tim Knight says:


  56. Tim Knight says:

    Wow the Eagles and Browns make a deal for the #2.

  57. D says:

    For us i rank them this way.
    Ramsey ( i think he would could be a CB for us)
    Hargreaves… you dont even know how hard it was for me to rank Ramsey above him lol
    The Jackson 5 minus 2, or 5/2+1/2 whichever you please.
    Burnsed Apples….pretty much even rating.

  58. getterdone says:

    Eagles acquired the No. 2 overall pick in the 2016 draft and a 2017 fourth-round pick from the Browns in exchange for the Nos. 8, 77, and 100 overall picks in the 2016 draft, a 2017 first-round pick, and a 2018 second-round pick.
    Idiots thinking Wentz or Goff is the next superbowl type QB….smh!

    • D says:

      Its a really dumb move with Bradford there for them to have done that. They could have just as easily took someone later as a potential prospect and then gone big the next year if they got desperate.

  59. Randy says:

    So what all did the Eagles give up…surely it wasn’t just the #8 pick.

  60. D says:

    Its possible Driskell slips to UDFA, though i would kind of doubt it. His last year stats alone show him to be capable. His big thing is he gets rattled really easy.

  61. D says:

    Man that shit is fucking retarded, i mean the Rams did set the market on picks with their trade so it would have been hard for them to got it for much less.

  62. Randy says:

    Wow, great deal for the Browns.

  63. Randy says:

    I don’t think you can trust Bradford to even make it through a whole season let alone be the sort of QB who takes you on a deep playoff run. This, again, shows you what teams are willing to do to try to draft a “franchise” QB….even when there’s no guarantee they will be. Qb’s are simply that highly regarded because of their impact on a team. Unless they’re gonna try to trade out of that spot again…I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they draft a QB.

  64. getterdone says:

    This has got to make the naysayers of the trade we did with Philly feel better now, seeing how stupid their FO is in letting productive veterans go & then giving up their future draft picks thru 2018 for a Qb that will likely be dumped by them in 4yrs….lol

  65. Randy says:

    Why are you so down on Wentz and Goff? Both of them are much more highly regarded and better prospects than Tanny was coming out of college. Why are you so sure neither of them will amount to much?

  66. D says:

    Randy says:
    April 20, 2016 at 2:03 pm
    I don’t think you can trust Bradford to even make it through a whole season let alone be the sort of QB who takes you on a deep playoff run. This, again, shows you what teams are willing to do to try to draft a “franchise” QB….even when there’s no guarantee they will be. Qb’s are simply that highly regarded because of their impact on a team. Unless they’re gonna try to trade out of that spot again…I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they draft a QB.
    yeah but with a guy who MAY be healthy, whether or not you can expect it to last. Having an understudy who can get you through would be better than sacrificing that much with a new coach. It has to be that the GM is on a last leg and he had to go bold or go home, only way to explain that because thats a horrible deal especially for second place. Think how much thats going to handicap the Eagles this year. no second round pick and now no third round pick, go from 1st to 4th round, and next year you give up your first, and the next year your second. Thats some serious handicapping on a first year coach with 3 years to produce.

  67. Tim Knight says:

    Randy can’t even discuss a trade between other teams without taking a shot at Tennehill. LOL

  68. getterdone says:

    for Randy;
    Tannehill wouldn’t be offended if Dolphins draft a QB
    By Conor Orr
    Around The NFL Writer

    Don’t worry, Dolphins. Ryan Tannehill is cool with you guys drafting another quarterback.

    “No, I wouldn’t be offended at all,” Tannehill said, via the Miami Herald. “That’s the nature of the business. If you’re not doing the job good enough then they’re looking to replace you. And you want to have depth. I love the guys in the room … I’m excited about the room we have and if we add somebody else, I’ll be open arms and welcome him in. We’re just there to push each other. Push each to be better and enjoy the whole process.”

  69. Randy says:

    Really? Lots of folks felt Tanny was, at best, the 3rd QB prospect in that draft and many folks felt he wasn’t a 1st round pick because he was so inexperienced. Wentz and Goff are almost universally thought to be the top two QBs in this draft and top 5 picks…probably picks 1 and 2. You guys are being ridiculous if you think Tanny was thought to be a better prospect when he was drafted.

    • getterdone says:

      Yes, Wentz & Goff are considered to be the top 2 QB’s in ‘THIS’ class of underwhelming QB prospects. That’s why these big trades by the Rams & the Eagles goes to show how insanely desperate they are….smh.

      Glad I’m not a fan or either team…lol. I bet their fan blogs are both going, WTF?!?!?!

    • Tim Knight says:

      Some folks liked him better than RGIII too. But why is this trade about Tannehill? LOL

      Look at how you turned this into another Tanny bashing session when it has nothing to do with him. Amazing! You’ve topped yourself. LMAO!!!!

      • getterdone says:

        Back then I was one of the rare guys that was calling for Tannehill over RG3. Guess I got lucky eh….

  70. getterdone says:

    BTW, the Eagles are said to be enamoured with Wentz, which dispels the ongoing rumor that I disputed too, with everyone saying the Rams would take Wentz @ #1. If they do, then the Eagles just got bird poo in their faces….or would it be ram poo?

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I’m sure the eagles knew exactly who the rams are selecting when they made the trade

      So it probably won’t blow up

      I don’t know which order it will be

      but it doesn’t matter
      we know the first 2 picks will be Wentz and Goff

  71. Randy says:

    The reports are that both the Rams and the Eagles like both QBs and would be happy with either. Not sure how anything done up to this point indicates what either team will or won’t do.

    • getterdone says:

      LMAO, c’mon….you don’t trade the farm away and go gee, I’ll take either guy, they are both soo sweet & soo much what we want in a QB….smh!

  72. Randy says:

    I could care less if Tanny is offended by what the team does in the draft. He hasn’t earned the right to be offended by anything. Lol

  73. D says:

    OHHHHHH i just got it…..the Eagles FO was HIGH….its 4/20 day….no wonder!

  74. Randy says:

    Again, you missed the whole point of my post because of your Tanny tunnel vision. gdp keeps making comments about Goff and Wentz and how he is underwhelmed by them. My question to him is how he came to that conclusion because he loves Tanny, and Tanny wasn’t regarded as nearly the high end prospect Goff and Wentz are. It had nothing to do with basing Tannehill, but, of course, you and your Tanny love saw it that way. Lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      I didn’t miss anything and don’t turn this around. Why can’t this trade be discussed without mentioning Tannehill? LOL

      Wentz and Goff are not considered to be special by anyone but it’s a QB starved league.

  75. Randy says:

    getterdone says:
    April 20, 2016 at 2:20 pm
    LMAO, c’mon….you don’t trade the farm away and go gee, I’ll take either guy, they are both soo sweet & soo much what we want in a QB….smh!

    Why not if you feel both guys are good?

  76. Randy says:

    I think it shows how teams overdraft QBs all the time. The draft Tanny was in wasn’t exactly a great draft class for QBs either. This year just has no “top dog” type of guy.

  77. The Flying Pig says:

    Every time I look for draft grades for Goff, Wentz and Tanny I get the combine page

    an it has
    Wentz 6.53
    Goff 6.51
    Tannehill 84.00

    Don’t get carried away with that though
    obviously the grading system changed

    Tannehill at the time was deemed an immediate starter with pro bowl potential
    and the 6 grades I read also indicate pro bowl potential but I don’t think they said immediate starter

    I don’t think it matters
    If you see your guys and you like your guy – YOU STRIKE

    QBs have to be treated differently than any other position
    some people thought 12 was early for Tanny – but who cares
    if that’s your guy, then that’s your guy
    You know your guy won’t be in the 2nd round or possibly after a trade down

    So if you like a QB you have to strike

    It also particularly easy for scouts to miss on QBs
    easier than most positions IMO

    Andrew Luck and John Elway were uniquely embraced by all

    but think about guys like Tom Brady or Ryan Leif
    that position is full of misses
    you got to almost flat out ignore grades

  78. Tim Knight says:

    Tim: Wow the Eagles traded for the #2.
    GD: I wouldn’t have done that for either of these two QBs.
    Randy: They’re better than Tannehill.


  79. Randy says:

    I’m not turning anything around. You made it a Tanny thing. I was asking gdp…not you….how he could be so high on Tanny but not on Goff and Wentz when they are seen as…at least…as highly touted QBs…and seen by most as better prospects. Nobody was gonna draft Tanny at 1 or 2. It was about his opinion on those two guys…not Tanny. You made it a Tanny thing.

  80. Tim Knight says:

    The Eagles GM is on the radio saying they’re good with either QB. He’s making ice cream flavor comparisons and pepperoni pizza vs. sausage. LOL

  81. getterdone says:

    Brownies & 69’ers each have 12 picks in next weeks draft…wow.

  82. Randy says:

    NFL Network’s Mike Mayock on Ryan Tannehill after the QB’s Pro Day: Cleveland has to take him at No. 4 |
    “He’s very raw,” said Mayock. “He had only 19 starts in college. However, because the NFL is so overheated right now when it comes to finding franchise quarterbacks, I think the kid is probably going to go higher than he should.”

    2012 NFL Draft Grades – Bleacher Report

    Other than that reach for Ryan Tannehill in Round 1, Miami did a really good job of managing this draft.

    AFC East draft grades: Patriots fortify D; Jets gamble on athletes –

    Questionable pick: Ryan Tannehill, QB, Texas A&M (Round 1, 8). How long will it take Tannehill to develop into a productive NFL starter? That answer could determine the fate of Ireland and others in Miami.

    In NFL draft, Tannehill is the third man – NY Daily News

    All this for a quarterback whose 13-7 career record and 42-21 TD/INT ratio pale in comparison to the exploits of the pro-ready Luck and Heisman winner RGIII. But with many teams still searching for franchise QBs, teams are prone to reach for signal-callers, as the Raiders did when they drafted Jamarcus Russell first overall in 2007.

    2012 NFL Draft Busts: Ryan Tannehill and Dontari Poe – Athlon Sports

    Needless to say, with only 19 starts under his belt, a 12-7 record as a starter and 21 career interceptions, Tannehill is a total project. Luck and Griffin III are as sure-fire as quarterback prospects get and the drop-off to the converted wide receiver is severe.

    Ryan Tannehill Wife: Dolphins’ Rookie Already Winning with Draft-Day Stunner | Bleacher Report

    There are many analysts who consider the Dolphins’ selection of the QB at No. 8 as a huge reach.

    2012 AFC draft grades: Risky Dolphins, O-line needy Steelers earn high marks – Yahoo Sports

    There is no questioning that Tannehill is a reach, but he’s an extremely talented reach. If you’re going to take that risk, you do it with a quarterback. General manager Jeff Ireland had to get a strong candidate for the position. Tannehill may have to sit for half a season or so, but that’s fine if he ends up being good.

    2012 NFL Draft Grades – Audibles –

    This all depends on how much you believe in Ryan Tannehill. I’m on the fence, and especially suspect of his value at No. 8.

    NFL draft grades: Bengals, Cowboys immediate winners

    They also went for the extreme makeover, offensive edition. It’s just Tannehill is a big wild card.

    Draft Grades: Bengals’ haul gets high praise; Saints flunk the weekend – NFL – –

    Taking Ryan Tannehill with the eighth overall pick is a risk. He has tools, but limited starts. Did they overdraft because of the need at the position?

    Commentary: Dolphins go ‘all in’ with reach in grabbing Ryan Tann |

    Every draft is its own special animal, which explains why Dan Marino could be the 27th player selected in 1983 and Ryan Tannehill, who had trouble convincing his college coach that quarterback was his calling, could go at No. 8 on Thursday night. In my view, however, this would have been a reach in any draft year.

    Ryan Tannehill To Dolphins With 8th Pick In 2012 NFL Draft

    Tannehill might have been a reach at No. 8. He started just 19 games in college after switching from receiver to quarterback, and last year he threw 15 interceptions while going only 1-4 against Top 25 teams.

  83. getterdone says:

    Chargers must be smiling now. They’ll likely take Tunsil to protect Rivers or go Ramsey to get their defense back on track, especially after losing Weddell to FA.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      Jax is in a good position too

      Nothing new to the NFL draft
      QBs always go early

      I knew it would happen
      how many times have the top 2 picks been QBs
      its probably more often than not

      If it weren’t for Clowney hype and Manziel fuck up 2014 may have been the same
      but Bortles went 3, Bridegwater went very late and Manziel…well only the Browns

  84. Randy says:

    Whatever, it wasn’t about bashing Tanny. I simply stated that he two guys this year are mow highly touted and/or graded than Tannehill and wonder why gdp was so down on them. If that’s Tanny bashing, so be it. It wasn’t my intention, and there’s nothing I can do if some want to twist it into that.

    • getterdone says:

      I’m not down on Wentz or Goff, but I’m surely not high on them either. Apparently Snead is very high on them & Roseman is so stoned he can’t even count….LOL

  85. D says:


    I think given our position, our coaches, and the FO, the Tanny pick made total sense. Came from our OC’s college system….no brainer. He was easily the 3rd best (by just about anyones evaluation AT THAT TIME) QB that draft the other two already selected. Could we have traded back got him later, probably but not definitely. Could we have picked a different position/player gone with a guy like Cousins later, yes (i actually had plenty of mocks i did with us doing just that) but would that have surely panned out better….who knows. I mean these arent arguments you can have because its 1 ) hard to remember exactly what the situation was then, removing what you know now, and its impossible to know if you change variables what the output comes out to be since so many other variables also change when you adjust one.

    The pick did make sense, but ask me if i think it would have made sense for us to have given up two thrids, a next years first and a year afters 2nd and my answer would have been hell fucking no we are retards if we make that choice. Taking Tanny at 8 where we already were is not comparable to that trade. If the Eagls had stayed put and selected Lynch at 8 that would be an almost identical comparison since Lynch is rougly the same level of ram with the same upsides that Tanny seemed to have at the point we drafted him

  86. Randy says:

    That wasn’t my point. But, my comments have been high jacked by the tanneholics to, once again, lick the sweat off his balls. Lol

    • getterdone says:

      If I’m lickin the sweat off his nads, then you’re rummaging through his stools trying to find anything that stinks!

      • D says:

        Pretty sure doesnt take much rummaging to find something that stinks in his stools. Might not even have to get very close at all to find it.

    • Tim Knight says:

      LOL, nobody was talking about Tanny until you brought it up.

  87. D says:

    What they gave up to get what t hey got is the head scratcher to me. Randy i do believe you are right though and Wentz and Goff probably at this point are better than Tanny was at the point we drafted him, Tanny is more like Lynch as a comparison to this years draft, and ironically he likely gets selected at 8 lol.

  88. Randy says:

    All I was asking is why you weren’t a fan of Goff and Wentz given they are at least as highly thought of as Tannehill was. Again, IT WAS ABOUT YOUR THOUGHTS ON GOFF AND WENTZ NOT RIPPING TANNEHILL!!!! Lol

  89. getterdone says:

    D, btw, I agree with what ya said earlier on Bradford.
    IMO, after extending Bradford, & then turning around & signing Chase Daniels to the highest back QB contract in the league, that as a GM, you’re best suited to just wait and draft a QB later to groom.
    If Bradford & Chase both fail horribly, then and only then, do you show this type of desperation by selling the farm in 2017, especially when the QB class is said to be a bit better.
    It just reeks of poor strategy..IMHO!

  90. Tim Knight says:

    The Eagles also paid backup QB Chase Daniels 3 years $21M to not play. LOL

  91. Randy says:

    I don’t know how else to explain it. I was using gdp’s opinion of Tannehill(which is/was very high) as a basis for his thoughts on Goff and Wentz….who are both more highly thought of than Tannehill was at that time. Then, I gave you a dozen examples of the general opinion of the pick of Tannehill because you disputed my characterization of what folks thought of it at the time after you chose to insert yourself into my comments to gdp and make it a Tanny issue.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I know what you were saying. I found it funny how fast you went there. Let’s put it this way it didn’t surprise me. LOL

  92. The Flying Pig says:

    Randy says:

    April 20, 2016 at 2:05 pm (Edit)

    Why are you so down on Wentz and Goff? Both of them are much more highly regarded and better prospects than Tanny was coming out of college. Why are you so sure neither of them will amount to much?

    this is clearly about “what is wrong with Goff or Wentz” not “Tanny sucks”

    Randy has no problem saying explicitly saying that he doesn;t care for him
    he’s done it many times before
    I don’t think he is likely to make a thinly veiled Tanny slight

    It is what it is

    I don’t have a problem with the Rams or Eagles trading up to take their QB
    I would rather be the trading down team
    but its commonplace int he NFL to go after your guy at the QB position

    You have to do what you have to do if you don;t have your guy

    I have no idea what either QB will do in the NFL
    I like to evaluate and opinion on prospects
    but not QBs
    its too unpredictable

  93. Randy says:

    If you don’t trust Bradford to be your long term QB, you draft his replacement NOW. You don’t wait until you need one. You bring a young guy in and groom him to step in in a year or two.

    • D says:

      Randy, Chase Daniels was brought and paid to be that guy, they didnt need to draft a guy this year.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        Neither Daniels nor Bradford scream confidence in the qb depth chart to me
        maybe they carry 3 QBs
        maybe they part ways with one of them with minimal cap consequences

    • Tim Knight says:

      His deal is 2 years but most of it is up front this year. They could move on next year. But they also paid their backup Chase Daniels 3 years $21M to not play so their investment in the position is very high and a bit bizarre.

  94. getterdone says:

    D says:
    April 20, 2016 at 2:53 pm
    Pretty sure doesnt take much rummaging to find something that stinks in his stools. Might not even have to get very close at all to find it.
    LOL, you may be right. Word is he runs Lauren out of their huge lavish master bedroom with his infamous Dutch Oven’s.

  95. D says:

    Yeah the strategy of it makes 0 sense. The strategy of it said 2nd round QB to me, maybe Lynch at 8…in no way did it seem to say we are planning on fucking our new coach for 3 years so he will get replaced by then….as it does to me now.

  96. finfanrob says:

    years and years and years from now. some time in 2076 the rule of thumb will be

    ‘son, there are three things now you dont discuss with family, religion, politics and tannehill. it is just sure to end up in a fight”

  97. Randy says:

    I think Daniels ends up being their backup long term and Bradford will be gone. I don’t think any of the moves the Eagles have made means they won’t draft a QB. I have a hard time believing they’d give up those picks for anything but a QB. Nobody in this draft is worth all those picks, but teams are willing to do it for QBs. Do you have thoughts on who they may value that highly to give up all those picks if it’s not a QB?

    • getterdone says:

      Only other choices are Ramsey since they lost Maxwell, Zeke since they seem so high on him, or Tunsil to protect chicken legs.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The Eagles GM was just on the radio and he said it will be one of the QBs, they like both, like chocolate and strawberry. LOL

    • D says:

      The only person id come close to valuing as high would be Ramsey, and i would just as likely to be just as dumbfounded if i heard they traded for him.

  98. D says:

    There are several QB’s coming up in Chip Kelly, Kayaa, Watson, Barrett, Fauk that all look pretty decent and by this time next year i think a couple of them will be as highly touted as those guys this year. I just dont think you trade away that much with a new coach, on a team thats got a lot of holes. I dont care how much you like the guy and how much you think of him, there is a too much for that guy thing. Teams have severly crippled themselves making moves like that, and i would bet if i went back and evaluated the number of times its been done, that the percentage that it instantly paid dividends is going to be really low.

  99. getterdone says:

    Randy says:
    April 20, 2016 at 3:02 pm
    If you don’t trust Bradford to be your long term QB, you draft his replacement NOW. You don’t wait until you need one. You bring a young guy in and groom him to step in in a year or two.

    WTF? No, you don’t extend him at all if you have no confidence in Bradford.

  100. Randy says:

    Maybe the Eagles like Goff and/or Wentz better than the QBs available next year.

    • D says:

      Chip Kelly is pretty damn polished, after another season at the helm he is going to be on their level. Deshaun Watson is probably there already. Kayaa seems to be proving his merit at the U though i dont know if i thin he is on their level yet, im still looking at him. Faulk im not sure about either.

      You are right though my evaluation and theres may be different and maybe they felt the need to strike now, i just find it hard to believe what the gave up could ever really make sense for what they got. Probably wont know until end of the year next year.

      Also, im a pretty conservative draft guy, im not big on trading up, without the team is pretty solid, oesnt have many needs, and the guy we are getting makes sense for the trade. Giving up this years 1st, and all the rest of it, minus the next year’s first, and i think it would make sense to me, giving up that other first along with all your picks between pick 2 and pick 79 really hurts them for putting people in place to help Goff be successful, as well as taking away next years 1 means they miss out on putting more quality around him the second year. It really just doesn’t make sense. Lynch at 8 (even though i consider that too high for him), giving up nothing, makes WAY more sense given what QB structure they currently have. Most teams that make that kind of trade have nothing to fallback on they have to make that trade, it makes more sense what the Rams did and i think they over paid as well.

  101. Randy says:

    Hey, I’m not saying I agree with what the Eagles have done. I’m just trying to understand it. Lol
    I do think they could be thinking they draft a guy this year and don’t have to worry about playing him for a couple years. Extending Bradford doesn’t mean that can’t happen. They could even envision trading him…especially if he plays ok. It could be a win-win for them if the QB they draft develops nicely. I just keep going back to how do you justify giving up they many picks for anything but a QB?

    • getterdone says:

      Yeah, that’s the ticket.

    • D says:

      Yeah i was about to post that earlier, i think it would have made more sense if the trade included Bradford and possible they keep one of those thirds or didnt include the 2018 second rounder…. then you see, this is them going after their new starter, extending Bradford as if to say he’s going to be our guy then making a move that usually would be for a team getting a starter…they just dont match up.

  102. getterdone says:

    OD’s great grandson, the Eagle fan. 😉

  103. Rockphin says:

    how many times have the top 2 picks been QBs
    its probably more often than not

    actually, no it’s only been 7 times in the history of the NFL.

  104. Randy says:

    I never like these big trades. It doesn’t seem like a good trade for the Eagles because they have a number of needs. But, they must have a plan. I think only guys like Marino or Elway are worth trades like this, but the NFL is so nuts over finding that “franchise QB” that they’re willing to hamstring themselves to get one. It just points to how QB-centric the NFL is…and how much they value them over every single other position.

  105. Randy says:

    The good thing for us is that this may push the next QB up higher and another guy gets pushed down to us. Who’s the next best QB?

  106. Mike E. says:

    I think it’s so very strange that 2 teams traded their entire team away in a draft where there was absolutely no clear cut #1 pick, and clearly no stud QB. I really don’t get it, and it reeks of desperation to take Wentz and Goff at #1 and #2. The best players in this draft are probably Jalen Ramsey and Laremy Tunsil. Go figure . . .

    • Tim Knight says:


      • Mike E. says:

        Yeah, but it’s not Luck is there, these are just OK QB’s. Wentz probably has a high ceiling, but Goff isn’t all that. He’s ready to play now, but what’s his ceiling?

      • Tim Knight says:

        Not disagreeing, just we’re seeing it more and more. It also shows you that teams feel you can make up for lost draft picks by using FAs.

  107. The Flying Pig says:


    Don’t tell me you looked up the history of the draft to come up with that number

    How much time do you have on your hands

  108. uwantwat says:

    Tim Knight says:
    April 20, 2016 at 12:48 pm
    We can refer to it as the Titties. LOL
    Tim that is the name of my fantasy teams. I must go to bed very late here. Talk soon.

  109. The Flying Pig says:

    the benefits of being your own boss in the Spring in the Northeast

    if you guys don’t know
    the weather has dramatically changed in the northeast over the last week or 2

    and with the change of weather
    comes a change on the way the women dress

    a dramatic change!

    I’m going to stop working for a few minutes now
    literally to walk around my block and take it all in

    Ahhhhhhhh….this time of year is the best

  110. Contrary to the reports, I have NOT hijacked Randy’s wordpress account

  111. uwantwat says:

    Why do you think I have a humming pussy as my avi? Clue what goes with Titties.

  112. uwantwat says:

    Koalas piss onya, Seriously, they are evil buggers. I must go cya.

  113. Mike E. says:

    G’nite Lee!

  114. Tim Knight says:


  115. D says:

    Lynch is next best Randy, but like Tannehill he is raw, he doesnt have the game count under his belt and his skills in certain areas are really raw. He is one of those guys though because of his size, arm strength, general athletic ability, etc is though to have the highest potential for being a franchise player in the next few years. You know how that goes, it really depends on his development program and him emotionally/cerebreally matching up with his physical potential, so its really a who knows.

    Conner Cook is the well refined guy, makes good decisions, had a decent arm, etc etc. He just doesn’t come off the books as a beast in the making, he seems fairly limited physically speaking so his potential is lower even though his NFL readiness is higher.

    Then there is Hackenberg who looks the part of a stud NFL QB, he’s very prototypical pro style passer, but raw is almost a understatement and i hear he is attitude is kinda poor.

    Dak Prescott is very football smart, he has a pretty decent arm, throws with zip, but he’s a little bit smaller and has been branded with the label of hybrid QB. He’s better than most and impressive to me was at the Senior Bowl, he was the only QB calling in the plays from the sideline, showing you that at least one NFL team thinks he is a next level guy. I actually think he is much better than there is a perception of him.

    Thats my next 4 guys, there are a lot of next next level guys who have potential, but im not sure any of them ever step on the field as a starter.

  116. Rockphin says:

    what is the 3rd in the original version

    Women’s rights

    • The Flying Pig says:

      somehow I think the exclusion of women’s rights at the dinner table wouldn’t go over very well in a lot of houses

  117. Rockphin says:

    Mike E. says:
    April 20, 2016 at 3:48 pm

    Yeah, but it’s not Luck is there, these are just OK QB’s. Wentz probably has a high ceiling, but Goff isn’t all that. He’s ready to play now, but what’s his ceiling?

    Even Luck hasn’t been “Luck” that is all slobbered over. He is a 58% completion guy with 7.05 yard average. He is a career 85 passer rating guy. (it’s true. look it up) he has 101 TD’s & 55 Ints.

    Cue the Tannebashers / lucklickers….

    • Tim Knight says:

      And their OL got the shit kicked out of him. He’s still not healthy.

      • Rockphin says:


        if he was really as good as “they” say he could still play with 5 orange parking cones in front of him.

    • getterdone says:

      …butt butt butt, Luck is elite, butt butt butt, Luck knows how to win, butt butt….

  118. Rockphin says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    April 20, 2016 at 3:44 pm


    Don’t tell me you looked up the history of the draft to come up with that number

    LOL No, they said it on NFL network last night which I record and watch in the morning before work.

  119. Rockphin says:

    The Flying Pig says:
    April 20, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    somehow I think the exclusion of women’s rights at the dinner table wouldn’t go over very well in a lot of houses

    That is why it’s on the list with politics and religion. they do not lend themselves to peaceful conversations.

  120. Rockphin says:

    Getterdone, you better just keep those mitts to yourself there brother. You will draw back a stump.

  121. D says:

    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1m1 minute ago

    Sources: #Cowboys & DE DeMarcus Lawrence were notified that Lawrence faces a 4-game suspension for another failed drug test. He’s appealing

    and another one gone another one gone another one bites the dust….

    • Tim Knight says:

      What with only 4 games for another suspension?

      • D says:

        Just pointing out another drug suspension….man you are in a combative mood arent you…lol

      • Tim Knight says:

        It wasn’t directed at you, why only 4 games for a 2nd time when Jordan got so much?

        How am I being combative? Because I found it funny that Randy found a way to bring Tannehill into an Eagles/Browns trade discussion? LOL

  122. getterdone says:

    Outdoor urinal at Mission Dolores Park in San Francisco.

    SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — A conservative group Friday threatened to sue the city of San Francisco over an outdoor urinal installed during a recent upgrade at Dolores Park.

    The urinal near a J-Church light-rail line stop on the edge of the park, which consists of a semi-circular screen and a drain into the sewer system, violates the privacy rights of both users and those forced to watch them, discriminates against women and the disabled and poses a public health risk, according to a letter sent to the city by the Pacific Justice Institute, a conservative legal defense nonprofit.

    The urinal, or “pissoir,” was installed as part of an extensive $20.5 million renovation project at Dolores Park just completed last month.
    Tim, I thought you said civilization is evolving and advancing society to new highs….lol

    • Tim Knight says:

      I never said that. I said evolution is happening, not society. LOL

      But if you go back in time when we were about as ignorant as you can be, I’d say we’re making progress. 🙂

    • getterdone says:

      I wonder what contractor got rich with that $20M contract and he then builds a half circle curb with a drain in it, & see thru chain link fence for the utmost of privacy….SMH

  123. D says:

    Thats kinda what i was saying though, you are comparing him to what he turned out to be, you cant compare these guys to Luck now you have to Luck then and what Luck was seen as coming out of college is a sure fire stud. I still think the guy is good but you are right, he hasn’t turned out anything near what was expected, especially with what happened last year. Im not Lucklicker but his evaluation coming out of college was WAY higher than these guys evaluated this year were by the same evaluators.

    • getterdone says:

      That was my point when I said it. We all remember the “Suck for Luck” embarrassment the NFL product had to endure….Goodell should have made them forfeit their pick. That was disgraceful.

  124. D says:

    Assuming the pissior is in correlation to the Target thing announced today?

    • Tim Knight says:

      What’s that?

      • D says:

        Target decided today that a person can use whichever restroom they wish at their stores if they do not identify with the gender specifically assigned for their physiology, ie males that identify as females may use the female facilities and vice versa.

      • Tim Knight says:

        Oh okay. Just don’t become a rapist now because that’s what everyone is concerned about. LOL

    • getterdone says:

      I’d be pissing up high thru the chain link fence trying to hit the bus windows as it stopped to drop off & pick up passengers.

  125. Rockphin says:

    You know what is strange…..I just looked at ALL the QB stats on ESPN & NFL.Com and Winning isn’t one of them…..Hmmmmmm

  126. D says:

    My personal feeling on the Target rule is it is violating even more people’s right to open it up like that and open things up to potential risks. I think if they intend to make bathrooms gender neutral then bathrooms must all be single units (one in one out) or they must provide a gender neutral bathroom for those who who do not wish to identify with what physically they are.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Most public bathrooms are like that. But unisex bathrooms aren’t anything new. Most large public bathrooms with multiple stalls etc. are at stadiums and airports and are usually very crowded so it’s not a great stalking ground. Like everything, it will evolve after some experimentation.

      Then again, you don’t have to use the public bathroom. I usually try to avoid them because I’d rather not walk around in piss and smell other people’s shit.. LOL

      • D says:

        Unisex bathrooms in my experience arent multi stall bathrooms though. They are basically turning their multi-stall bathrooms into unisex, which to me opens the doors for a guy who may be up to no good to dress as a woman and walk right in… As a male, im not overly concerned with it, though the urinal situation might be a little awkward when a woman walks up in there. As a woman, though i would expect they would feel very apprehensive having a man in their bathroom. Just for that reason i feel its a loss f their rights to safety and security, for the sake of the feelings of someone who doesnt want to identify as one thing or the other….

      • D says:

        Again, i feel open to accommodating their wishes to not have to identify as something they feel they arent, i just think a much better method for handling it should be found so as not to obstruct the rights of others. I feel certain this is a court ruling in the making.

      • jetsssuck says:

        maybe the baby changing room is a bathroom?

    • jetsssuck says:

      the plumbing industry wants to make 3rd bathrooms a public issue where all business’ and public restrooms are required to have 3rd bathrooms. How’s that for new business. Happy 420 day

  127. Tim Knight says:

    D, what is keeping a man or woman up to no good from walking in now? There is more danger in the parking lot then in the bathroom.

  128. stangerx says:

    There’s my buddy Rock. You ever make it down this way. all I got for you is a link (and that I am close by).

    • jetsssuck says:

      looks like a cool place for single guys.Happy 420 day

      • stangerx says:

        It’s actually like Hooters, but without as much guilt. Don’t ask me why, but groups of women go there on the busy nights. But yeah, lots of the other nights it is high-end Hooters. Wife likes it though.

      • The Flying Pig says:

        its not cool for single guys
        none of those ladies will go home with you

        Its cool for married guys to take in some eye candy

    • getterdone says:

      But what’s under them kilts? lol

    • stangerx says:

      Pig — Never saw groups of women hanging out at Hooters though. Least it took it a step up with a chance in there. And food is a whole lot better too. But regardless……no debating the eye candy factor.

  129. getterdone says:

    Browns waived TE Chase Ford. Probably getting ready for all that room they’ll have with 12 picks in the 2016 draft, 6 of which are top 100.

    Anyone here interested in this young Cane in our TC?

  130. son of a son of a shula says:

    LOL @ the attack on Randy. As I was reading through I came to his innocent comment and very rightfully predicted what was coming. Unbelievable.

    • Tim Knight says:

      Yeah right. As if the conversation about the Eagles/Browns trade had anything to do with Tannehill. Give me a break. You guys are going loony with your dislike of the guy. It’s actually pretty funny though. LOL

    • getterdone says:

      OMG, c’mon! No one was attacking him. Was playful banter by a bunch of blogging jocks who razz each other all the time….don’t be so PC my friend….lol

  131. getterdone says:

    Piggy, i tip my hat to all those surgeons that specialize in redoing the plumbing on all these misfits. Big money in it, especially since I think obamacare requires Ins Co’s to pay for it.
    Psychological counseling might be a better appropriation of taxpayer money being spent.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I tend to think if they have the surgery they are serious about identity issues
      I try not to judge it, even if I don’t understand it
      and sometimes I even laugh about things that are strange to me – but ultimately I try not to judge

      In terms of Obamacare I do not care what they pay for or do not

      I only care about my own ins and what my premiums are

      I am generally a nice pig
      but I have no strong morales that are greater than my pocket book

      Given my expreince hunting for health ins befor Obamacare and hunting for insu after it and now that I have through my own business – I tend to think Obamacare has decreased the amount I pay.

  132. Randy says:

    I’ve said this a lot, but I do not hate Tannehill. There are things I like about him. I just think there are fundamental QB skills in which he lacks that will always hold him back and keep him an average QB. I still hope he kicks ass this year and do root for him to succeed.

  133. jetsssuck says:

    here’s a tip for you youngsters when using carbon copies. U can use both sides when you stray a mist of water on the cc. These kids now a days are so wasteful. Happy 420 day.

  134. getterdone says:

    Great, now jestssucks is high as a kite….lol

  135. son of a son of a shula says:

    Interesting how it may shake out for J-ville. They loaded up on DE both with last years #1 pick and then in FA this year and Bosa and Buckner will likely both be sitting there. I wonder if they try to trade out.

  136. getterdone says:

    LOL @ Son editing his own posts. Nice to have the keys to the car, err blog eh? 🙂

  137. The Flying Pig says:

    stangerx says:

    April 20, 2016 at 5:31 pm (Edit)

    Pig — Never saw groups of women hanging out at Hooters though. Least it took it a step up with a chance in there. And food is a whole lot better too. But regardless……no debating the eye candy factor.

    Have you been to Twin Peaks in Davie
    Its on University Drive – west of where you are out…maybe out of the way for you.

    • stangerx says:

      Nope — but far as I know same as the Kilt… there a difference?

      Reason I get away with the British place is cause we can walk there. And like I said nice option given that.

  138. Randy says:

    I said I “hope” he kicks ass. I hope with my heart. I evaluate with my brain. I always hope the team and players do well. That doesn’t mean I think they will.

    • getterdone says:

      Ok, I get ya. I’m sure you still hope Dallas Thomas makes the pro bowl too. Lord knows that would help Tanny. 🙂

  139. son of a son of a shula says:

  140. getterdone says:

    My fav Cake tune.

  141. D says:

    Kevin Nogle ‏@thephinsider 39s40 seconds ago

    WHAT?!? Josh Norman suddenly a FA; Can Miami enter the chase?

  142. Randy says:

    It was me that said Thomas was a soft player and drafted at least a round too high when we picked him. I got shouted down for being “negative” as usual. Lol
    I’ve never been a huge fan of Thomas. But, I do see his athletic ability….and was willing to give him some time to develop and prove me wrong. I believe it takes OL at least 3 years to become the player they can be. Fans give up way too early on OL, in my opinion. Thomas has not gotten appreciably better and still plays soft. Maybe they should give him 5 years to develop like…ahem…other players. Lol

    • getterdone says:

      I hope Forester & Gase’s new offensive approach turns Dallas T in the right direction. He does have talent.

  143. getterdone says:

    One for our own Piggy. 🙂

  144. D says:

    D, what is keeping a man or woman up to no good from walking in now? There is more danger in the parking lot then in the bathroom.
    Tim, what keeps it from happening is the public knows they dont belong there when they see that now. It would get reported and then security would step in. If this is an ok thing now, then there is nothing to report and by time there is, its already done.

    • D says:

      Again, im not suggesting not accommodating them, just am for a more fair way to do this. Some may not blink an eye in the case of a person of the opposite sex walking in while they are pissing in the urinal, some may not feel at all bad walking in to see a guy at the sink in the womens bathroom, but id wager a lot of money, more would have issue with it that wouldnt, so why must this be handled this way when others will be affected, when it could just as easily be handled in a way where it wouldnt? I just dont see the point of going the path of most resistance when there are suitable alternatives.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      All I know is if my wife goes in a public “woman’s” room and I’m outside and a guy starts going in there I’m grabbing him by the back of shirt collar and let’s say – disallowing.

  145. getterdone says:

    Panthers rescinded CB Josh Norman’s franchise tag, making him a free agent.
    “After a number of conversations with Josh’s agent, we realized that a long-term deal was not attainable,” GM Dave Gettleman said in a statement. “We thank Josh for all his contributions and truly wish him well.” The stunning announcement makes it clear the Panthers aren’t just rescinding Norman’s tag, but moving on altogether. There would almost certainly seem to be more than meets the eye here, as Norman was one of the league’s best players in 2015, and would have made an affordable $13.952 million under the franchise tag. If there’s not, and this is a simple matter of the Panthers moving on from a player they determined would no longer be with the team past 2016, Norman will become the subject of a feeding frenzy on the open market.
    What say you pundits, dreamers, & bullshitters?

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      If we had him and Suh on the same D there be the first on field arrest for assault. Bring him in.

    • D says:

      Im not a big fan of his, i think he is somewhat overrated, and by that i dont mean he isnt good i just dont think he is a superstar at the position. Id take a look at him, id evaluate what he is asking for, and id also look into why it was rescinded. We have about 14mil to play with, taking out what we will need for the rookie class, figure out whether you want to go vet or draft and then make an offer.

  146. getterdone says:

    BTW Son, that War Pigs remake was pretty cool, a tamer version if you will. Another band I like a lot, Gov’t Mule did a War Pigs remake that’s different.

  147. jetsssuck says:

    getterdone says:
    April 20, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    Great, now jestssucks is high as a kite….lol
    it’s 420 day,of course I am. I don’t have to worry about piss tests anymore… Who do you think invented kites for cargo ships to save on fuel? People who got high as a kite.

  148. The Flying Pig says:

    I am a big fan of Cake
    I like Frank Sinatra and Commissioning a Symphony in C

  149. The Flying Pig says:

    Here you go Stanger
    Its right by Nova and the Dolphins Training Facility if you know that area

    I think they have lingerie night
    (Piggy’s eyes pop out)

  150. D says:

    I have to think if Carolia figured they were not going to get him re-signed then he sure as shit is asking for crazy money. He would have to be tremendously far apart from them and probably threatening hold out for them to make that move. I dont know if i would want to deal with that shit personally.

  151. Randy says:

    Don’t all bathroom stalls work the same? Why can’t a man who thinks he’s a woman go into a man’s bathroom and use the stall just like they would in a woman’s bathroom? And, can’t a woman who thinks she’s a man go use a man’s bathroom…well…because they’re a woman and get to do whatever they want anyway? I’ve been to lots of concerts, trainings and different events where the women hijack the men’s bathroom, and I can’t even use the damn thing because there’s a line of women waiting to use both bathrooms! Lol
    We should all just get back to doing our business behind a tree. What’s wrong with that?

    • D says:

      My thing is safety and its more for the sake of women than i really feel for myself. I think its also unsafe for the transgender woman going into the mens room, i just dont think that would be safe for them. I definitely do not want a man, in a dress or otherwise, in the bathroom with my daughter, no way ill feel comfortable with that.

    • The Flying Pig says:

      I agree

  152. The Flying Pig says:

  153. The Flying Pig says:

    Crazy about Norman
    and right before the draft
    changes everything

    • getterdone says:

      I think we’ll hear of a PED or failed drug test shortly, maybe some kinda criminal charge.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        He thought he had them over a barrel and they called his bluff maybe now he’ll be a little more reasonable

    • D says:

      I dont think it changes much, i think the teams that were targeting CB’s early still go that route, i think others that may have had their eyes on DE’s but may have been going to draft CB out of necessity and have plenty of cap space might feel like getting him and then going after the DE they wanted, but i think thats a small subset.

  154. Rockphin says:

    Hello young Stanger! Hope you are well. I have been to the he Kilt in Boca. I like the uni’s and food better than Hooters.

    and to answer someone’s question up above you don’t have to wonder what is under the kilts they are so short you can see! Hmmmm minikilt?

  155. The Flying Pig says:

    Next years picks are crazy to give up
    didn’t like it for RG3 and I thought he would be something

    • D says:

      Really depends on the state of your team, you feel like that because we are always depending so hard on draft to complete our team, other teams are in different positions and a next years first isnt a big deal. Hell some of them are always drafting very late first so they are giving up something equivalent to an early 2nd round selection.

  156. getterdone says:

    Piggy, this is a cool mix on Sinatra’s This Town

  157. son of a son of a shula says:

    Paul Anka does Nirvana

  158. Rockphin says:

    Man, when I see somebody pull into a handicap spot and throw up their handicap tag and then get out of the car and run into the store it really makes me want to break their f****** ankles

    • D says:

      Maybe their handicap is mental not physical……. Maybe they are Trans-able…. you know a disabled person in an able persons body…look it up its a real thing, they should have the right to identify as disabled and use that spot… lol

  159. Randy says:

    I was just joking around. But, I think you are severely underestimating the potential danger for men in a bathroom. It’s not just about women’s safety. People can claim lots of things happen that didn’t….and how does a guy defend himself against accusations when all he wanted to do was take a piss? It’s not just about physical danger.

  160. son of a son of a shula says:

    GD, I’m diggin’ the Frankie remix

  161. steveccnv says:

    I was hoping Philly would trade up to #2. come on down Zeke.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Good point, but dammit I’d rather have Shaq. I’d be happy with Zeke too though.

      • steveccnv says:

        Lou above says, you can get an RB later to share carries with Ajayi, but imagine what kind of QB RT would be, if he had a great running game, one that wouldn’t be provided by a later pick.

  162. steveccnv says:

    I feel the same way Randy on trading up, just say no.

  163. Randy says:

    Just make all bathrooms unisex. But, I don’t want any gals complaining when I drop a deuce that rips the hairs out of their noses and makes their eyes water. Just give me a golf clap and go about your business. Lol

  164. son of a son of a shula says:

    I like this one too

  165. D says:

    Armando Salguero reached out to Dolphins’ sources who said of Norman: “Can’t say yes for sure. But it would be wrong to say no.“
    Really Mando, way to say something thats has a value of nothing lol. Jesus these guys are fucking hacks.

  166. steveccnv says:

    Why is it complicated, if you have a dick you use the men’s room.

  167. New Age says:

    Adam Beasley ‎@AdamHBeasley

    Dolphins trade up to #3.Is Ramsey the pick?

    WTF is going on guys?

    Lol, fucking with youse.

  168. D says:

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago

    It’s only natural, but those who have spoken to Sam Bradford say he is not happy with today’s trade.
    Thank you Catherine Obvious…….

  169. D says:

    With the trades going on im still not sure if we wont see a thrid, possibly 4th QB taken before us. You still have Browns with strong need at QB, at 8, you have SF with strong need at 7, does Conner Cook all of a sudden make the jump from early second later 1st round evaluations to being a top 10 guy? This QB shit is getting fucking crazy.

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      The Browns have RGIII to further destroy. Say it isn’t so we need Cook available later on

  170. son of a son of a shula says:

    Steve- you can identify as anything you want, hell you can identify as a horseshoe crab but if you have a dick you use the men’s room.

  171. Tim Knight says:

    What’s keeping a man up to no good from dressing up like a woman now and going into the ladies room? And why would a transgender or whatever have an easier way to get away with committing a crime than anyone else at the moment? I don’t see crimes being committed in public bathrooms anyway. Unless were talking about a subway station bathroom at 3 in the morning with nobody around. But that’s always been a danger.

  172. New Age says:


    I dont have a problem with it except for one thing. It does make women uncomfortable and why should 0.000345% of the population be able to do that to about 50% of the pop? Just doesn’t make any sense at all.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I think we’ll see in time if it becomes a problem. But I don’t buy the crime argument because there’s nothing stopping anyone from doing that now and a public restroom is probably not the best place to get away with that. They’re trapped.

  173. Tim Knight says:

    Randy for the record, when we drafted Dallas Thomas you and I had discussions about him and I asked you for your opinion on him. I never got on you for any criticism of him. He didn’t come into the league as a finished product and it appears he still isn’t, unfortunately.

  174. Randy says:

    Do folks who are transgender know the rule about always keeping a urinal between you and the next guy and never, ever looking to your left or right?

  175. Randy says:

    Gotcha. I just know folks think I defend our OL a lot, but I am just as critical of them as anybody….maybe even more so.

    • Tim Knight says:

      The entire team has deserved some criticism for some time now. Last year was a friggin joke.

      • steveccnv says:

        I mostly agree Tim, but entire is a strong word and I know at least 2 guys you can’t say that about Landry Jones 😉

      • Tim Knight says:

        Well I was speaking in generalities. LOL

      • steveccnv says:

        Didn’t your teachers ever tell you when an absolute is used in a multiple choice answer it’s usually not the correct one 😛

  176. steveccnv says:

    The Carolina Panthers made a surprising move by taking the franchise tag off Pro Bowl CB Josh Norman. That is a HUGE need for the Miami Dolphins. As usual, money will be a big question. The Dolphins have approximately $19.5 million of cap room left for 2016, according to NFLPA figures, and still need to sign their rookie class. Norman will ask for top dollar. Walker

    I’ve been seeing numbers all over the lot for our cap figure, Adam Beasley also says this it’s around $20M, the site I’ve been going to dropped from like $23M to $13M without any acquisitions.

  177. steveccnv says:

    I’d make an offer to Norman. I know Mike is worrying about the cap, but our D would be pretty damn good. What do we have to lose? So our cap is in hell, we haven’t accomplished anything with a good cap lately.

  178. steveccnv says:

    If we were the Eagles we’d be getting blasted by everyone, right about now, and I’d be doing it too. WTF are they doing paying all that money for the 2 crap QBs they have, and now trading players and picks to take another crappy QB. 2016 they have the 2nd pick, 2017 they’ll have the first pick.

  179. getterdone says:

    All this trading up by giving way the farm for QB’s that need time to develop reminds me why I appreciate the Phins having Ryan Tannehill.
    Folks, there is a serious QB shortage out there, and you see the desperation of it. Now there’s talk of 3-4 QB’s going before we pick…lol

    Just got off phone with my Brown fan buddy. They got Josh McCown, just signed RG3, Austin Davis & Connor Shaw, and still wanting a QB….lol

    Thank You #17. I hope Gase & Co. truly takes the handcuffs off & gives you a solid offensive system with sensible playcalling with improved personnel around you. You so deserve good things for the NFL record beating you’ve taken for this franchise the past 4 years!!!

    Go Tanny!

    • son of a son of a shula says:

      Another Tanny Novena

    • steveccnv says:

      Brown’s did the right thing, you don’t draft a QB when the rest of the team is shit. Rebuild with the draft/trades, then get a QB. How’d Tim Couch do on their sorry team? He might’ve been a decent QB, if he played on another team.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        Oh they’ll draft one, it’s in the NFL bylaws that the Browns must ruin a rookie QB every year.

      • steveccnv says:

        They should and most likely will draft one, just not in the first round. Unless they think they’ll have the first pick next yr and take one then.

    • steveccnv says:

      Anyone else notice how much the top end talent on our team has increased, since we haven’t had to worry about a QB?

      • getterdone says:

        Very good point. We got a solid young QB. We had piss poor coaching. Now if GAse & Tbomb/Grier can keep stocking good college talent onto our team, then we’ll be alright.

  180. getterdone says:

    steveccnv says:
    April 20, 2016 at 7:01 pm
    I mostly agree Tim, but entire is a strong word and I know at least 2 guys you can’t say that about Landry Jones😉
    Dude Landry Jones sucks. 3rd stringer. 😉

  181. steveccnv says:

    Couple more players and we’re close to having talent like the team Harbaugh took over in SF. Gasebaugh can do the same thing in 2016, at least that’s what I’m hoping for.

  182. D says:

    Tim i just wonder why you are being defensive here. Do you truly have no belief that anything does or could happen in a public restroom if you start mixing different sexes into them or is this some other issue you have with having an alternative to what is being proposed? Or is this some personal judgment towards me and my reasoning for having a more compromising alternative?

    • D says:

      To refute what you are saying about the crime aspect, a guy dressed up like a woman still looks like a guy, and if he is noticed, people would go, by the defining rules of the day, man does not belong in woman’s bathroom, and violation of said rules would in turn have someone report something that should be. Result, security goes in and likely prevents anything from happening, if indeed that is what was going to go down and for the life of me i cant see what good was coming from that guy dressing like a woman to go in there. Now enter a rule change where men dressed as women are allowed to go into that restroom, same scenario, the guy would not be reported and if something were to happen, he MAY get caught but after the violation has occurred. This in turn is a loss of security even if the previous rule couldn’t fully guarantee it not happening previously.

      Im also not saying the transgender person is the one up to no good, im saying the rule for transgender to use the bathroom of the sex opposite to what they actually are opens the vulnerability for this to happen, most likely by a fully heterosexual but very disturbed male. They could also be in danger themselves, for example a male bathroom, female transgender in there, who is to say that he wouldnt do something to her, there are hateful evil people out there man.

      Also yeah things happen in public bathrooms all the time, its naive to think it doesn’t. Not too long ago here in Mobile there was a dude dressing up like a woman, going into the woman’s bathroom and then taking pictures of little girls when they used the restroom. He got away with it a couple times before they caught him and they caught him because someone notice it was a man dressed as a woman and reported it. At least it was just photos but it could have been worse. Had it been that he could have been viewed as a transgender, and that not been weird, then he could have gotten away with until someone actually noticed he was snapping the pictures from over the stall.

      • son of a son of a shula says:

        You typed all of that in 2 minutes! that would take me a half hour and I’d forget most of what I was going to say.

      • getterdone says:

        Tim’s not being defensive, he’s just dancing around the subject wearing tights….lol 😉 We luv ya Timma!

      • steveccnv says:

        Speaking of Naïve, you really think security would stop something? I was at a beach resort one time and as we approached our hotel, from the beach, a girl came running towards us saying help my friend is being raped. We quickly got security, and he pointed his flashlight every place except where the rape was taking place, until the 4 guys ran off.

        I know it’s just one time, but how often is security on the ball? When I worked in a casino in Tahoe those guys used to go flying down the hall when there was a fight in the night club, but most security officers are old or over weight, or somewhat whimpy.

      • steveccnv says:

        Son, you got issues with your hunt and pecker 😉

      • Tim Knight says:

        I get all that. But you just pointed out that it already happened without the new laws. That’s what I’ve been saying. Creepy people are creepy people already. When do little girls go into bathrooms by themselves?

    • Tim Knight says:

      How am I being defensive? I’m just stating my opinion. I’m not saying you’re wrong, and I understand why you and others aren’t comfortable with it. I’m not a proponent of it, I just don’t think it will be a big deal in the big scheme of things.

      I just saw a guy knock a guy out in the middle of a busy street yesterday while ordering some lunch. The guy was laying in the street unconscious for a few minutes with cars driving around him before getting up and looking like a boxer who still doesn’t have his legs. He had supporters around him, but it was a really fucked up thing to witness. People commit violence anywhere in all sorts of ways all the time.

  183. getterdone says:

    Norman immediately becomes an unrestricted free agent.
    “After a number of conversations with Josh’s agent we realized that a long-term deal was not attainable,” general manager Dave Gettleman said in a statement. “We have decided to rescind the franchise tag freeing Josh to immediately become a UFA. We thank Josh for all his contributions and truly wish him well.”

    Norman wasn’t in a talking move shortly after the development was announced.
    “Man, I just don’t feel like talking about it right now,” Norman told the Associated Press.

    It’s a stunning turn of events after Gettleman insisted all offseason he didn’t believe in drafting and developing players “for other teams.” The Panthers will now walk away from the 28-year-old corner.

    Still, don’t expect Norman to be on the open market for long — a source informed of the situation told NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport that teams started contacting Norman within an hour of the Panthers’ announcement.

    Norman burst onto the scene in 2015, with his first All-Pro season, compiling four interceptions and 19 passes defenses. Norman allowed a 60.9 passer rating in coverage 2015, the 15th-lowest passer rating allowed among qualifying cornerbacks last season.

    To rescind the tag a week before the NFL draft is unprecedented.

    • getterdone says:

      Panthers GM Gettleman’s belief in regards to “shutdown corners,” especially in the Panthers’ system, could also shed some light on the decision.

      “Shutdown corner is a misnomer. There’s very few of them. It’s so hard. You can’t cover forever,” the GM told Black and Blue Review’s Bill Voth last season. “If there’s no pass rush, there’s no shutdown corners.”.
      Amen. This is why I’m glad we’ve done a lot to address our DL, and will still likely draft a DE early as well.
      VJ wants to be aggressive up front, & press on the boundaries creating more time for the DL to get to the QB. I like it. Bring the heat!

      • steveccnv says:

        Our DBs looked great at times last yr, especially in preseason with the first unit on the field, but once the pressure was gone they were exposed.

        When you have a Revis type on one side it allows you to lock down the rest of the field. Dion did the same thing.

      • Tim Knight says:

        I’ve been saying the #1 corner is an overrated thing. People act like most teams have their Deion Sanders and if you’re one of the teams who doesn’t you have to find one. That’s not the case. You want two solid corners, not just one who’s great and some other guy. Great players don’t grow on trees.

        During draft time lots of prospects are overvalued. This is not a top blue chip draft. It’s solid all around but very few projected franchise players if any. Tunsil will probably be a very good LT for a decade if he can hold up that long. Ramsey could be special. I’m not sold on Jack or anyone else as a sure thing.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I could see us being interested in him. LOL

  184. son of a son of a shula says:

    Son, you got issues with your hunt and pecker😉

    Maybe but at least I know which bathroom to use

  185. getterdone says:

    Citing “team and league sources,” WFNZ Charlotte’s Bill Voth reports the Panthers rescinded CB Josh Norman’s franchise tag because a long-term deal “wasn’t getting done,” they anticipated him becoming a distraction during a forthcoming holdout, and Carolina wants to spend big to retain other players.
    Atop the list of “other players” are DTs Kawann Short and Star Lotulelei. Short is entering a contract year, while Lotulelei is signed for two more years. Norman was believed to be weighing a potentially lengthy holdout, and was apparently unwilling to sign his franchise tender, preventing a trade. Per Voth, the Panthers were offering Norman $11 million per year, but he wanted $15 to $16 million annually. Carolina can now recoup a 2017 third-round compensatory draft pick if Norman signs a big deal elsewhere. (He will.)

  186. son of a son of a shula says:

    I bet if Norman came here you wouldn’t see our QB fighting him in TC, just sayin’

    • getterdone says:

      Go get yo shoe shine check….lol. Actually, I’m sure it would help make them both better players going against each other.

    • Tim Knight says:

      What does that mean?

      • getterdone says:

        The dumb rumor last year in camp where Tanny supposedly threw a INT to a practice squad/scout team guy and then got pissed….lol

      • Tim Knight says:

        Oh the one that Tannehill explained as know what this practice is about to a green rookie? The one where he never said how do you like your PS paycheck? 😉

        It wasn’t about the INT, it was about the aggression in a repetition type practice. It wasn’t on him, it was on the receiver.

      • I think he’s talking more about the skirmish between Newton and Norman in TC

  187. stangerx says:

    Here you go Stanger
    Its right by Nova and the Dolphins Training Facility if you know that area

    I think they have lingerie night
    (Piggy’s eyes pop out)

    Let’s go dude next time you are around. Normally would be a problem but you are family (and my wife loves you). More seriously…….let me know next time you are down and have a free decompress day. WE can sort out where then.

  188. Brian in NY says:

    I’m glad to see everyone is mellow on 4/20 and no one is arguing.

  189. Randy says:

    I’d at least explore what it would take to sign Josh. He’s not a guy I go after big, but he’s a good player…at least check it out. That would shore up our D and free up a draft need. I think he also brings an attitude to your secondary. I don’t really know what he’s like in the locker room.

  190. olddolphan says:

    IT’S 17th RANKED FLORIDA ATLANTIC 2 and #1 ranked U. of Miami 2 in the top of the 8th inning at ALEX ROIDRIGUEZ PARK in Coral Gables. For my money, this FAU-UM baseball rivalry is one of the best in the Sunshine State! –Over the last few years, these two teams have had some classic match-ups, and this appears to be another one of those. Both teams are a lock to make the NCAA Playoffs. But this game is for bragging rights, a big issue in these parts. Will get back when this game is over.

  191. Randy says:

    Lol @ gdp. That commercial is creepy. Sorta like the “Baby/monkey/puppy” commercial. Creepy.

    • getterdone says:

      not sure I saw that one…..I try to refrain from watching too much Hellivision. Reading you guys comments are much more sane. 😉

  192. stangerx says:

    Rockphin says:
    April 20, 2016 at 6:10 pm
    Hello young Stanger! Hope you are well. I have been to the he Kilt in Boca. I like the uni’s and food better than Hooters.

    and to answer someone’s question up above you don’t have to wonder what is under the kilts they are so short you can see! Hmmmm minikilt?

    Rock — anytime you are down we can do comparative shopping.

    • Brian in NY says:

      Maybe we should move on from D and B…

      • stangerx says:

        LOL…..but don’t see us going Tilted Kilt if it is a family event (wives OK, maybe not kids). Now if Rock comes down outside fest time…… get it.

  193. Tim Knight says:

    This is the War Pigs cover I like.

  194. It’s true. I keep forgetting that you can push the salary back and keep it low in the first yr and just give a huge signing bonus and prorate it over the life of the contract. so, if we wanted Norman there’s ways to do it to lessen the cap hit this yr because we’d need to.

  195. We could also either trade or cut Cam Wake and free up a ton of cap space.

    • getterdone says:

      …or trade Tanny right? lol Opps the ‘T’ word…my bad.

    • Tim Knight says:

      I’d like to see if Wake at 34 years old can be a Trace Armstrong/Kevin Green type situational pass rusher at this stage in his career. He could be an 8-10 sack guy on half the snaps if you just put him those situations. Having a good offense and scoring points would help with that. 🙂

      • he only had 9 tackles in the first 7 games of the season. Granted, he had 7 sacks but it’s going to be interesting to see if they keep him at that salary. He already said he’s not taking a pay cut and he’s one of the guys they can either trade or let go to free up some needed cap space. he’s in the last yr of his contract and if they don’t think they’ll be re-signing him after this season anyway due to his age there’s a strong possibility he’s let go.
        Plus, if they do keep him and he’s injured again and lost for the season that’s cap money that’s wasted on an injured player. At his age, injury is more likely than not.

  196. The Flying Pig says:

    All these versions of War Pigs really makes me questions your prioritizes

    A song about pigs is not to be taken lightly

    Only real icons can do it right

    Stick with the original

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