Call it whatever you’d like but I have to make a stipulation or correction. In my zest to kiss these rookies ass and to also welcome the vets who were brought in I referred to, in my previous post, our recent year’s Free Agency periods as “making a splash” and while true in most cases this simply cannot, nor will it be tolerated, include the signing of Ndamukong Suh. Bringing Suh to Miami was genius and will pay off in spades. Suh is a special talent. Suh is the bedrock of this team, the biggest meanest sumbitch in the league. 
Suh didn’t show up to voluntary camp, what a bad teammate, blah, blah, blah … wee wee wee
I don’t care if Suh only shows up on 16 Sunday’s (even though a gratis Friday walk thru would be nice, but whatever…) if whatever makes him so pissed off to have to leave where he is that he brings that anger on Sunday.
Is the 4-3 alright for you?
We can play something else if you want?
That kind of talent, don’t kid yourself.
So yes there is a Stipulation. You better believe it.
If you are Herman Cain then it’s “stip-a-lation”, no matter, I love Herman.
Alright Suh didn’t catapult the Fins into the playoffs last year and the Defense as a whole had it’s problems but I’m going to do with Suh what the Tannehill crowd does with him. I blame coaching and scheme, I blame lack of direction and stubbornness to adhere to a dismal plan. I expect Coach Gase and his staff to truly understand the player they have and to use him to their fullest advantage. Let the beast feed – feed the beast.
If I were the coaching staff I would intentionally piss Suh off every game day. Move his locker to a different spot every week. Don’t have his uniform ready and waiting for him. Perhaps a wet-willy, maybe a pink belly, noogie, tie his shoelaces together or the old hot foot.
Whatever it takes to get him to his utmost pissed-offness.
Suh is here, and so is a new coaching staff, everything is different now!!!
Finsmob Unleashed 
what a special player who may be the best player to ever wear a dolphin uniform.
He will be better now that the NFL outlawed the chop block. Of course, it will take him time to realize he doesn’t have to protect his knees with chop blocks.
Now, the guy wants money to run in the general campaign instead of self funding a campaign.
I don’t think the large donors are putting their money into presidential race but are now putting money into senate and house races now.Large donors know presidential race is a lost cause. The big money guys are now worried losing both houses to democrats. One house is up for graps with 10 seats in question and the other within striking distance. Hillary appointing 3 SCOTUS could change the political landscape of America for a generation maybe 2.
@NFLFilmStudy: Why Dion Jordan Will Be Legitimate Comeback Player of the Year Candidate https://t.co/LSVRA7282M
if he can come back and dominate like many thought he would then we may have found that 1 player away from being in SB
https://www.ispot.tv/ad/AT_h/progressive-kool-aid-man
If he did make it back he’d provide the perfect fit for the scheme. I do hope he can flip his life around, but I just can’t bet on him.
http://www.thedrive.com/accelerator/2771/crashed-f1-driver-fernando-alonso-experienced-over-5-times-the-g-forces-of-an-f-16-pilot
Very interesting the guy walked away from this crash. Many things tobe learned from this and hopefully they can be applied to us everyday drivers
Nice write Sonny – We’re Suh-posed to be a great defense, now it’s time to show it.
D-Bolt
Thanks for the DJFF article. Sounds good, let’s hope he gets reinstated, and finally has his head on straight.
jetsssuck says:
May 10, 2016 at 5:11 am
He will be better now that the NFL outlawed the chop block. Of course, it will take him time to realize he doesn’t have to protect his knees with chop blocks.
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Chop blocks (involving 2 offensive players hitting a defensive player simultaneously) were always illegal on pass plays. What the NFL did is remove the 2-3 different scenarios where ‘chop’ blocks were ignored (inside run plays; plays outside the TE).
Cut blocks (going low on a defensive player) are still legal
Jetssuck,
Interesting perspective regarding the force of Fernando Alonso’s crash in March.
“The man did briefly weigh as much as a Ford F-250.”
As for driver safety in real world application; mass produced cars will never get the expensive safety design of a racing vehicle.
So if and when Jordan comes back; OLB in Misi’s spot or a future full time 4-3 DE?
I think he’s going to play both
Btw,
It was late on the east coast but for those who stayed awake, Stephen Curry returned in dramatic fashion.
After showing lots of rust through the first 2-3 Q, he exploded in the 4th Q and in OT.
Curry set the NBA record last night for most points ever scored in an OT frame (both playoff and regular season). What a beast.
Al
Good point on the cut blocks. That’s what teams were doing to neutralize Suh
Jetssuck,
I saw your post on political donors….
One thing that has crossed my mind for years is for a push to tax political donations at the highest possible tax rate (all $ taxed at the highest marginal tax rate for said individual/corporation w/ ZERO offsets available).
IMO, political party donations are a huge waste of economic resources (money).
not if you are getting the right candidate who believes in what you do. Having a large financial interest in could amount to millions lost or gained to somecandidates. Same holds true for political donors who have cases before SCOTUS with 1 member short of a full supreme court. I believe we have already seen where one case was dropped because congress isn’t allowing a nomination. That company dropped the case and paid 500-600 million I believe. 3 possible nominations could happen with this presidential election winner.
SUH HAS NO MORE EXCUSES THIS YEAR OR HE’S GONE!!!
lmao
Stills has no more excuses or he’s gone!
sb7,
Everything is different now…
now that Gase is here lol
EXC’SUH’SES!!!
This board is dead this morning
I guess you put ppl in their place sb7 🙂
Nah, people heard Gwen Steffani sing live and are now frozen in fear!
LOL @ son. good job.
Awesome Son — not sure we want to piss off Suh that much though if you want your 16 Sundays to come true. 🙂
Guess we can file this one away into either the “when it rains it pours” file or the one labeled “Dudes that can’t even get their tubes tied right.”
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Antonio Cromartie’s wife Terricka had twins on Sunday, which was Mother’s Day.
Cromartie, most recently a cornerback with the New York Jets but currently a free agent, is well known for the number of children he has fathered. The twins were the third and fourth children of Antonio and Terricka, and Antonio has eight other children from other relationships. What makes the Mother’s Day twins story so surprising is Antonio had a vasectomy..
Cromartie is a like a bee pollenating flowers
Why am I guessing that out of those 12 kids we will be hearing about at least some of the entering the draft down the road? No doubt some good physical genes in there.
LOL @ UK
The amazing Tyler Varga, everyone’s favorite draftee. lol
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/colts-player-suffered-the-effects-of-a-concussion-for-four-months-151315605.html
ESPN’s Bill Barnwell sure didn’t like our off-season. Gives us a D+ grade. And apparently likes to twist the dagger on it too. Sorry it is long even after I tried to cut down.
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What went wrong
They mysteriously swapped picks with Philadelphia to acquire a terrible contract. To what must have been bemused delight in Philly, the Dolphins sent the eighth pick to the Eagles for the 13th selection and two veterans, Kiko Alonso and Byron Maxwell, who failed to launch during their lone season in Pennsylvania. Alonso is basically a low-cost flier.
Maxwell, though, is another story. He was a disastrous signing from Seattle; the Eagles must have been itching to give away one of former coach Chip Kelly’s personnel mistakes and get out from under the $13.5 million in guaranteed money remaining on Maxwell’s deal…..Maxwell was a mess in that same role for the Eagles…..
They renounced Olivier Vernon’s transition tag to sign Mario Williams…The Fins weren’t necessarily wrong to pass on re-signing Vernon at the staggering sum he received from the Giants, but….Vernon for Williams is a downgrade.
They traded up repeatedly in the draft. They sent a fourth-round pick to the Ravens to move up five spots in the second round and grab cornerback Xavien Howard before sending third- and fourth-rounders in next year’s draft to Minnesota to select Leonte Carroo in the third round. Then they made one of the rare trade-down moves that got a negative return, sending the 147th pick to the Patriots for Nos. 196, 204 and 250. The Patriots then sent that selection and the 243th pick to the Seahawks for pick 225 and a 2017 fourth-rounder, a deal the Dolphins would have been better off taking themselves.
They re-signed Cameron Wake. At 34 and coming off of a torn Achilles, there’s a legitimate chance that Wake won’t regain his form as one of the better pass-rushers in all of football. The Dolphins had Wake signed for one more year with a cap hit of $9.8 million, but over the weekend, they re-signed him to a two-year extension with $10 million in new, fully guaranteed money.
Before agreeing to this deal, there was a chance that a monster season from Wake would have forced the Dolphins to spend the franchise tag on him in 2017. But the chances are greater that the Dolphins paid for the player they’re hoping Wake still is instead of the guy who shows up this upcoming season.
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In full (including the few “goods” at
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15492554/bill-barnwell-offseason-report-cards-buffalo-bills-miami-dolphins-new-england-patriots-new-york-jets
Barnwell has hated our offseason from the beginning. He makes some good points at times but he’s hated everything we’ve done since we hired Gase tbh. We’ll see how it shakes out.
All I need to read is Vernon to Willims is a downgrade to rate this article as 💩
Vernon is so overrated
I’m Sofia’s we made the change to williams
A VERY good article if you got a few minutes!
Stanger,
If you look at his article about suggested offseason moves, he wanted Vernon, and hates losing draft picks. So, Tannenbaum probably pissed him off even more than some of us this draft lol.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14777385/fives-moves-bills-dolphins-jets-patriots-make-offseason-nfl
Sounds like the Phins didn’t do what Barnwell thought they should on most of those…..and payback is hell.
Is he related to Omar. 🙂
Lol, I wouldn’t insult him that much
Mike
Nice article Pig. Highly doubt anyone gets voted comeback player for coming back what Jordan is “coming back” from, but nice info on what might be out new D. Glad it came with a picture to figure out what this meant.
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Mike Tannenbaum stated Miami will employ a 4-3 “under” defensive front in 2016. This designation was a key tidbit of information to work off, as it’s easier to project where talent will fit and what skill sets will be required at each position.
The biggest differences between a 4-3 under and a regular set are the two space-eating defensive linemen on the strong side of the formation and the imbalanced linebacker alignment. This is meant to maximize the gaps for linebackers to utilize and unleash the weak-side pass-rushers.
Yep! The ‘wide 9’ edge rushers.
Pretty much explains the Jordan as LB part too. Off the weak side in that you are a 3-4 OLB.
Wyo
Ya owe me a beer buddy!
Na
I posted a story about an athlete that went though concussion symptoms for 3 month
Yours sounded like someone who just wanted everyone to know that Tyler was just a fringe player still? 😉
Is that right? lol
Good write up, Son.
Go Phins!!!!
Tim
To answer your question from yesterday concerning holes on the team
You don’t seem to understand the context in response to OD who stated that he doesn’t think the team prioritized OL
If we don’t draft Howard with the 2nd or Drake with the 3rd and instead go OL, which I assume OD wants, then we have 2 very glaring holes
In terms of the rest of the team you are far more optimistic than me.
I think we could have used LBs, DEs, and DBs
If nothing more than for depth
The team can use a lot of upgrades
Really any team can
Okay, I guess I didn’t read it that way. Like you said every team can use better players at multiple positions. No team is really loaded everywhere. It’s almost impossible to do these days. But look at the amount of good talent we do have and tell me we can’t go play and win games with them. How many I have no idea, we haven’t seen this team play yet.
The roster looks good on offense
I have concerns about the roster in defense
I’m not sure the roster is make or break territory
It’s not so good we are guaranteed to win or so bad we are guaranteed to lose
I’m just going to call Piggy Sofia from now on
Sofia?
The Flying Pig says:
May 10, 2016 at 1:27 pm (Edit)
All I need to read is Vernon to Willims is a downgrade to rate this article as 💩
Vernon is so overrated
I’m Sofia’s we made the change to williams
I’m Sofia
Yes, that’s what I said
How does my phone change so glad to Sofia
You obviously didn’t type what you thought Sofia 😛
That guy from ESPN makes me look like a homer
Wow I didn’t look at it that way, but now I get it.
Piggy, you have concerns on defense probably because you haven’t seen this defense play yet. That’s the unit that has the most change. The offense with only a few changes and hopefully for the better is more intact.
I have concerns about the roster
I have concerns about the entire team bc I haven’t seen them play – but on offense, the roster (what I imagine it to be) looks pretty good and like a team that can put up a lot of points
on defense though….I see the pieces I like. I see the plan and the steps they took to get big CBs. But I’m uneasy about it
I would have liked it if the team brought in more talent on D and focused on building a great defense. I think with this roster we don’t have a chance of being a top 5 defense
You don’t have to be top 5 in defense to have a good season. If you score on offense and play some opportunistic defense, you can win.
Yeah Tim
but we made a choice
we made that choice when we hired Gase
and I would have chose differently
I would have bult the D around Suh and focused on a more balanced offense with a lot more running than we did last year and probably more than Gase implements
It can work – I’m not making predictions
I just thought focusing on Defense would have been safer
Why don’t you think we are building around Suh? The entire philosophy and scheme change on defense is built around him. Didn’t you read Son’s article? LOL
the personel is not different
except the CBs
All this hot air about Dion Jordan coming back as comeback player of the year & the others holes concerning this team.
Aunt Sofia
Piggy, really?
Williams, Branch, Alonso, Maxwell, Howard, Abdul-Quddus as well as many other additions – up and coming players who were not really a big part of the defense in the past, and a lot of new depth and competition.
Let’s see what this defense looks like before we worry too much about it. 🙂
Williams is the top one of that group
the rest have a lot to prove IMO
Of course but they were all brought here to start/play significant roles. 6 possible new starters out of 11 is pretty significant. We also have no idea how the new coaching staff will view the personnel. It could be even more drastic than that.
Piggy
I think Super Mario has a lot to prove too. I know he may not have been used to the best of his abilities last year, but he really tanked it. He needs to come back strong this year.
He was frustrated as were other BUF defenders, he didn’t tank it. If he did so did Hughes, Darius, Williams etc. They were all down in production because of the genius Rex Ryan. LOL
Hey, maybe they did. I know he was accused of that, but I didn’t watch him play.
I’m sure he does.
but he has a resume as one of the NFL’s top pass rushers
the others have not been
Maxwell was actually really bad in Philadelphia
No he was not, he had a rough start and a couple of bad games at the end before getting hurt that is all anyone remembers, but he had an 11 game stretch where he was shutdown and gave up very little and 0 TDs. Of course dumb Eagles fans forgot that. LOL
Stanger, we first need to see Jordan back and see where he fits in. Could he be a hybrid DE/OLB? That’s what I would do with him. But I’d have him attacking the backfield more often than not. Sure drop him in coverage at times but his skill set says edge guy more so than a space player. He could play the same role as Bruce Irvin did in Seattle – OLB/edge rusher.
Aunt Sofia is very pretty
C’mon Mike, she’s a pig!
Did I miss something? Dion FF reinstated?
Not that I’m aware of
LOL @ ESPN’s Bill Barnwell.
He’s another classic idiot when it comes to financial value on contracts; complaining about the overall contract value instead of the guaranteed portion and in this case, what the Dolphins were going to pay for Maxwell. Maxwell got a 6yr, 63 mill contract last year from Philly with only 25 mill of it guaranteed. The Dolphins are only on the hook for 11.5 mill in guarantees (Philly paid out 23.5 already of those 25 mill guaranteed on the original deal). The Fins re-adjusted the cap values to fit their own cap table layout. Grimes took less in TB but the Fins wanted a different skill set at the position that Grimes didn’t have not to mention that Maxwell is 4 years younger which carries a higher premium in longer term deals than guys in their 30s who are deemed too risky to sign long term. He’s crapping on Williams when reality shows Williams worst year (in sack totals) is Vernon’s 2nd best year ever in his career.
13.5 philly paid that is.
If we are not over the cap or anywhere near the cap it doesn’t matter anyway
WTF does Bill think we are going to do with the money we spent on Maxwell instead, buy the stadium ice cream?
If the Dolphins were in salary cap hell – it makes sense
The point about Philadelphia wanted to unload the contract is valid
but when you sit at 13 and get one of the best players in the draft, its moot
Williams is far superior to Vernon and I thik we will see that on the field
I don’t even think its close
But I’m not a huge Vernon fan
Mike
Yes Aunt Sofia was very pretty
….was (A tear falls down Piggy’s cheek)
she has fallen on hard times
here is a photo of her now
The only funny part is mentioning what NE did vs what Miami could have done.
But then again, NE drafted Brissett 3 rounds earlier anyone else was going to take him.
Piggy
Isa is a player that the arrow is pointing up though,. He had a nice season for the Lions
He’s average at best by NFL standards.
Average is better than what we’ve had the last couple of years
I don’t know what to make of him
but basically we are relying on a player who was another teams backup
and performed well when thusted into that role
Like Daniel Ellerbee…
and that worked out so well for us
I think we all know who the top talent is
its not a secret
If we had a shot to bring in a young safety via the draft to groom to replace him – I think we need to take that
but I think our focus was elsewhere – which is just a choice we made
Yep
LOL Piggy – Looks like she fell on a plate
I hope she didn’t hurt her hip again….
I’d eat it….
Obviously a vet and decorated posthumously!
(she looks to have been putting it about a bit before she fell?!?)
C:\Users\user\Desktop\3317255[1].jpg
You have t cut and paste the website link for it to post
not try to post from your computer
Couldn’t get a .jpg link so I went to plan b!
Piggy,
Or another way of looking at Isa is that he’s on his 3rd team in 5 years and entering his 6th NFL season (UDFA from Saints cut by Saints after 3 years; claimed by Lions where he was working off a 1 year deal last season).
Alonso is on his 3rd team in 4 years
Maxwell is on his 3rd team in the last 3 years
Williams is a stud IMO and an upgrade over Vernon
I like Branch too. I think he can fill the Shelby void
but Maxwell, Alonso and Isa are guys other teams were willing to part ways with
Its hard to build a great defense with those guys
Of course guys floating from team to team doesn’t always mean failure
Sometimes guys find themselves and hopping around
and sometimes teams have a lot of loyalty to guys that are kinda….meh…take Koa Misi for example. He’s played for one team his entire career and he’s not exactly pro bowl talent
Not seen an article from colon-pokey for a while ……. now I know why!
He loves the South Korean Prison System
What’s happening UK? How’s things?
Who’s ready to move to Central America and retire?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/8-countries-where-dollar200k-in-retirement-savings-will-last-30-years/ar-BBsEcwL
My brother enjoys surfing and goes to Nica from time to time where the waves are pretty good.
Isa took over the job when opportunity knocked and played really well, that’s why we signed him. Gase talked really high of him playing against him last year.
Gase says a lot of things.
Right, we signed him because we didn’t like him. Oy!
If he does well it’s a plus, i’m just not expecting anything out of him other than being a plugger until another player of higher calibur can be drafted to play that position
That’s a weird view. We traded for him, it’s not like the Eagles said “hey we want to unload a big contract so will you take him and let us move up 5 spots” and we said “sure, whatever you like.” LOL
My bad, you were talking about Isa. 3 years $12.75M isn’t stopgap to me.
“Maxwell would turn it around in the weeks that followed. According to Pro Football Focus, from Weeks 3 to 13, the fifth-year corner was targeted 45 times in coverage, allowing 28 completions for 365 yards – a meager 8.1 average per attempt – and zero touchdowns. That works out to 45 yards per game, minus Week 4 against Washington, when he exited early with an injury. Yards per catch were kept to a minimum as well at just 92 total, and he only surrendered one reception over 23 yards during that span.”
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2016/03/what-dolphins-are-getting-in-kiko-alonso-and-byron-maxwell-more-changes-for-college-football-playoff.html
Also let’s not forget that Alonso was traded for twice, not cut or released. He was involved in the LeSean McCoy trade and our trade. He was targeted, not thrown away.
Alonso had a rookie year that compares to the types of seasons Zach Thomas had. When is the last time we had a LB even close to that type of production?
stangerx says:
May 10, 2016 at 11:05 am
Guess we can file this one away into either the “when it rains it pours” file or the one labeled “Dudes that can’t even get their tubes tied right.”
NAH, I would file this under “WHAT!?? WE ARE GETTING A PATERNITY TEST!”
LOL — now that would be poetic justice for Cromartie.
Tim,
This is for you (and your position)
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/02/29/pro-6-best-free-agent-bargains/
1. Isa Abdul-Quddus, SS (Lions)
Nothing has come easy for Isa Abdul-Quddus in his NFL career. After entering the league as an undrafted free agent in 2011, Abdul-Quddus developed into a serviceable backup for the New Orleans Saints in his first couple of years. It wasn’t until 2015 that he was afforded an extended run as a starter in Detroit, and he responded with an impressive sequence of performances. Abdul-Quddus bounced back from a terrible game against the Bears in Week 6 by finishing with a +9.4 cumulative grade in his last eight games. Ultimately, he finished the year with an 80.1 grade, ranking 19th amongst safeties. Abdul-Quddus was particularly effective against the run, recording a stop percentage in the top 20, as well as positive grades in coverage and as a pass-rusher. Considering his experience both at centerfield and in the box, Abdul-Quddus is one of the more intriguing options in this stacked crop of free agents safeties.
AL
That’s what I was saying . . . . Isa is better than anyone not named Louis Delmas that’s played with Reshad Jones in quite some time.
THIS JUST IN!!
The Dolphins defensive line and the secondary have attracted a lot of attention this offseason, albeit for different reasons.
The big news up front has been the arrival of four-time Pro Bowl selection Mario Williams to join a group already featuring two other four-time Pro Bowlers, Cameron Wake and Ndamukong Suh. On top of that, Wake continues his recovery from his 2015 Achilles injury and now has a new contract extension.
In the secondary, the story has been the arrival of safety Isa Abdul-Quddus as a free agent and then the two draft picks on the defensive of the ball, cornerbacks Xavien Howard and Jordan Lucas.
Relatively speaking, things have been fairly quiet at linebacker expect for the offseason arrival of Kiko Alonso in the March trade with the Philadelphia Eagles that also brought cornerback Byron Maxwell.
From defensive coordinator Vance Joseph’s perspective, the linebackers have a chance to make plenty of headlines of their own once the regular season starts.
With Alonso and returning starters Jelani and Koa, Joseph said the Dolphins have playmaking ability at the position.
“Between Kiko, Jelani and Koa, that’s three pretty good athletes,” Joseph said. “That’s more scheme than it is a personal gift. We have to move those guys around and we have to blitz those guys and allow them to make negative plays.”
What would go a long way toward helping the Dolphins linebacker corps becoming an impact group is if Alonso can regain the form he displayed in 2013 with the Buffalo Bills when he earned NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year honors from the Professional Football Writers Association.
Alonso dealt with various injuries the past two seasons, but Joseph said he liked what he saw from the linebacker when the Dolphins hit the practice field during their recent voluntary veteran minicamp and during the early portions of the offseason program.
“Last year’s film was tough,” Joseph said. “It was a different scheme. They were in a 3-4 defense. But what I’ve seen — in our minicamp, the last couple of weeks — is he has got great instincts. He’s a long, tall, Mike (middle) backer that has great instincts. He covers a bunch of ground with his movement. He has great eyes. He has been a great leader in the huddle, and that has been surprising. He has been very vocal. He has been assertive in the huddle. That was good to see from him.”
VJ seems content with the LB corp, but then again, could be promising coach speak.
However, he knows that if he runs the right scheme on defense, & gets what he wants upfront from the DL, then everything else will fall into place for both LB’s to shoot the gaps on blitzes or stuffing run plays, to the LB’s being able to concentrate on coverage knowing the DL has sealed the run lanes, as well as making the job of the DB’s easier with quick penetration by the DL.
We have talent, just needed good coaching to put it together in a workable fashion that makes sense for everybody on the field.
ooops forgot to cite my source:
http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/article-1/Dolphins-Have-Good-Athletes-At-Linebacker/c604a5f5-8f62-4675-a084-ccce8cf3aa7e
I’m sick of talking heads too!!!
I’m happy that we’re brining in veterans guards. Sounds like they’re talking to Alex boone and few others.
“The Dolphins also have reached out to Seahawks veteran guard JR Sweezy and had a preliminary conversation expressing some interest in Geoff Schwartz. Other guard options include Jeff Allen, Ramon Foster, Brandon Brooks, Zane Beadles, Jahri Evans, Michael Harris and Chris Chester.”
This must be older information, a lot of those guys just signed this FA period with other teams.
I think Schwartz signed witht he Lions. Foster resigned with Steelers. Chester re-signed with Falcons, Beadles with the 9’ers, Brooks with Eagles, Allen with Texans, in fact i think Evans is the only one not currently signed.
Whose quote is this? Haven’t a couple of these guys already signed with someone else?
NO EXCUSES FOR THESE GUYS EITHER!!!!
Tim Knight says:
May 10, 2016 at 4:23 pm
Also let’s not forget that Alonso was traded for twice, not cut or released. He was involved in the LeSean McCoy trade and our trade. He was targeted, not thrown away.
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Agreed.
Alonso didn’t come cheap to the Eagles either; they traded McCoy who was considered one of the most complete backs in the NFL stuck on a team where its head coach liked to put everyone on a rotation.
Alonso was traded from Buffalo due to i) position of need for a new head coach (RB) ii) a surplus of LB that Buffalo had accumulated through good drafts iii) Kiko was going to be moved to WLB in his 2nd YR in Buffalo but he was hurt before camp even started iiii) his injury class (blown knee).
Alonso was traded to Miami due to i) GM wanted to discard all of Chip Kelly’s moves because he was bitter at Chip; wanted to start with his own personnel ii) Alonso suffered another leg injury (this time an MCL grade 2 sprain which is a partial tear of the MCL and considered a rare injury).
Maxwell was aquired by Philly in a deal that Seattle simply could not match financially and he was discarded by Philly due to i) Maxwell’s production did not match his price ii) GM wanted to discard all of Chip Kelly’s moves because he was bitter at Chip’ wanted to start with his own personnel.
Miami acquired Kiko because they felt his knee injury in Philadelphia was not directly related to the first one and that the Fins sports science department could keep him healthy going forward (something Riley has typically done with the Miami Heat when acquiring often injured players) and also because he was highly productive in his rookie year as a 4-3 MLB. The Fins also believed his production in November and early December was a result of missing part of Week 2 through the entire Week 8. Fins are also aware that Kiko finished off the Eagles season last year on a high note recording 8 combined tackles (season best at that time) vs Wash and 9 combined tackles vs Giants (Kiko’s season best) his last two games of the year.
Regarding Maxwell, the Fins acquired him at a price of 11.5 mill (the guaranteed $ amount remaining on his contract after the 13.5 Philly paid out in YR 1 of the deal). The Fins split their payment into 8.5 in this year and 3 next year (only 3 mill of Maxwell’s $8.5 mill 2017 cap figure is guaranteed). The Fins also believe he was not a scheme fit in Philadelphia but will be in Miami’s new press corner scheme.
Naples, on your 5:19 post
VJ seems content with the LB corp, but then again, could be promising coach speak.
However, he knows that if he runs the right scheme on defense, & gets what he wants upfront from the DL, then everything else will fall into place for both LB’s to shoot the gaps on blitzes or stuffing run plays, to the LB’s being able to concentrate on coverage knowing the DL has sealed the run lanes, as well as making the job of the DB’s easier with quick penetration by the DL.
We have talent, just needed good coaching to put it together in a workable fashion that makes sense for everybody on the field.
Boulder, many of those FA’s are already wearing new jersey’s 🙂
But as far as OG, Louis Vasquez is still available, as is Jahri Evans, & Amini Silatolu
Matt Slausen………
Matt Slausen is a Charger now.
J/K he just signed with the Chargers 🙂
Yeah i know, i was brought to that sad realization yesterday.
Also after the May 12 grace period where FA’s don’t affect the Comp picks for 2017, I expect to see DE Jason Jones signed by Miami, he seems to be waiting around for a reason, same with CB Leon Hall.
They dont count if they are street FA’s anyways, if they are cuts from other teams, they can be signed and wouldnt count against the comp picks
Right
NO MORE EXCUSES FOR KIKO!!!
NO MORE EXCUSES FOR SHULA!!!!! RECOVER AND COME HOME!!!
damn, look how good i am, i yelled this out and he went back in time and was released on the 3rd!
dont know that there are currently any FA OG’s worth picking up, id take my chances witht he guys we have now that Slausen is gone. He’s the only one i really liked, unless of course some later cuts happen and a really solid player falls in our lap.
I still think Louis Vasquez has game…but does Gase think so. He’s seen him in Denver. He’s a mauler in the run game.
Mike E. says:
May 10, 2016 at 3:57 pm
What’s happening UK? How’s things?
Reply
Good thanks Mike. Life is hectic though. G/f had an op on her foot, so she’s struggling now too as well as both parents. Doesn’t help having only 9 nights at home in 30 either. Spread a bit thin at the mo, but at least I’m still getting paid.
Hope all’s well with you and all the other F’ers here.
Nogtih all.
What do ya think of the new mayor of London?
I know what Trump thinks of him. he’ll ban him from ever coming here because of his religion.
Will he be the next Vince Wilfork? Phins should keep anonymously sending him cases of Lil Debbie snack cakes.
Patriots signed third-round DT Vincent Valentine to a four-year, $3.03 million contract.
Valentine is a great athlete for his size (6’4/329), but needs to get stronger. He’s also struggled with his conditioning. Valentine might need to redshirt for a year before contributing on the interior.
D and naples,
that was from the link tim posted above. Sorry I didn’t know it was an old link from march.
Tim Knight says:
May 10, 2016 at 4:28 pm
My bad, you were talking about Isa. 3 years $12.75M isn’t stopgap to me.
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Not necessarily but his contract currently ranks 12th at the FS position on a guaranteed $ amount (11th on a per year average $ value). I’m sure he will go further down the list when 1st contract guys become FA after this upcoming season and with a rising NFL salary cap.
For perspective. everyone in the current top 5 FS position is getting 17 mill or more in guaranteed $ (MCourty #1 with 28.5 mill).
6 and 7 are over 12 mill; 8-10 are above 8 mill.
There is a drop below 5 mill at like #17
Dolphin’s 2016 slogan
But what if an asteroid hits our facility week 4?
Did you guys hear VJ say his preference would be left and right at S but if it doesn’t work out that way we’ll go SS/FS?
What if VJ’s middle initial was J? Did you ever think of that? Huh? lol
Are you for the Vajayjay joke? LOL
Hey UK – Glad all is well, even if you’re spread like margarine at the moment. Hopefully girlfriend heals up quickly, and hope all is as well as can be expected with the parents. Speak to you soon bud! GO DOLPHINS!
Tim
That WAS a VJJ joke. 🙂
Just want to be sure. You must speak to the vajayjay appropriately or no soup for you. LOL
Tim
Did he say how long he was going to wait and see if L/R works?
This new way of doing rookie camp meant we did not hold tryouts for “walk-ons” this year. Is that ok? I think so. We are jammed full of good players at most every position. Cutting down the roster will be even more difficult than usual.
Also, “losing” the practice time on the field is a bit of a misnomer, since we are allowed an extra practice this year due to having a new HC.
So it was astute to use the extra practice for mental preps instead of just yet another “run around in shorts” team workout, since there are rules against contact and even 11-on-11 drills right?
People always say, “… Not that you can tell much when all they are doing is running around in shorts!”
With a new HC, DC, and OC and multiple new coaches as well as some hold-over coaches who must relearn nomenclature, schemes, etc., classroom work is a higher priority than “shorts” work.
I think getting the players mentally prepared at this point is much more important than physically.
I really look forward to the vast competition we’ll see at all the position groupings on defense.
DE, LB, DB’s…should be interesting to see how Gase & VJ sort it all out as we get through training camp.
The DE spot should be interesting, Mario, will he play LDE or RDE?
Will Wake strictly be LDE and also just situational on passing downs, & if so, who takes that early down spot…Branch? Fede? or do we sign Jason Jones, or does Dion Jordan finally become a starter?
…also don’t sleep on Cleyon Laing…could lightning strike twice for Miami with CFL DE’s? He’s 25yo 6’4 290….maybe he gets some work inside on passing downs….lots of ways for VJ to mix it up at times to keep guys fresh and to get after the opposing QB when our new high scoring offense makes the other team one dimensional trying to play catch up. 🙂
I keep hearing about Laing what’s the connection with Wake other than they were both from CFL? He had like 6 sacks in 2 years. Why do you think he might have a chance to stick?
the rest of May, all of June and most of July… uggg… I need football now. OTA’s just aren’t enough I need football now!
When does the Lingerie League start up again?
Tim
I’m really concerned about asteroids as well
Just use Preparation A
preparation alien?
Synthetic pot?
Getter, there’s been some hype over Cleyon Laing, he’s a big DE. I think we’ve improved the front 7 pretty nicely particularly along the D-line. I think we have a better rotation but we’ll be able to pressure offense as well and by that I mean along with actual pressure but pressure to get into good plays and be productive. They’ve set Suh up pretty nicely, I think. He’ll be back to form, not that he slipped all that much anyway.
Laing is part of the equation for now…they sought him out & signed him early for a reason….they must see something.
We’ll soon see how his get off is, if he has any 1st step explosion, or more a bull rusher.
uuggg, and now year two of son and suh sitting in a tree. you can say all you want how great suh is but bottom line last year he was your typical big pay day FA bust. i will let you continue to stroke suh, for now it is one of the worst FA signings in fins history.
lets hope this year at least he performs to some average level
Not true, if we had 11 guys on D playing like he did, it would’ve been the best D in the history of the league.
Canadian football is different for defensive linemen. They line up 1 yard off the ball. it effects how they rush
But there’s not much running, so they just tee off.
Man, man, man, man, man……. I hope Tunsil kills it at Guard this year and is the answer at LT in the future.
Albert Tusnsil Pouncey Turner James
Looks pretty good compared to last year. Let’s hope they can all stay healthy!
I wish we had a fullback…..
We do, Earl Mitchell.
Steve, it was awesome seeing him catch passes out of the backfield last pre-season. I wish they would have used him more during the regular season.
It must’ve worked in preseason, that’s why we didn’t see it during the regular season.
steveccnv says:
May 10, 2016 at 9:25 pm
Not true, if we had 11 guys on D playing like he did, it would’ve been the best D in the history of the league.
oh sorry steve, i was talking about the dolphins and suh. i am not sure what games you watched last year.
I watched him get tripled, while Mitchell was getting pancaked, and OV was hitting the QB late.
And Taylor’s man is still open.
and I watched him get taken out of plays one on one, or allowed to rush up field uncontained while the RB ran right up the middle. I’m not bashing Suh, but I was disappointed with his production based upon the cap hit we got with him. He did not dominate on the level of 114 Mil
And I saw Brady, Brees, and Rodgers get sacked, it happens.
steve,
i am not saying suh is a bad player just he isnt the play changer son like to say he is. this team was awful with him and without him. it is just more proof this is a team game and one player doesnt make one bit of difference. i could careless if he was tripled team or not, bottom line the defense last year was even worse with him on it so as far as i am concerned it was an awful FA signing so far
The coaches didn’t have a clue last yr, they didn’t know how to get him man on man. If the D sucks this yr, then I’ll agree with you it was a bad signing. It does no good to have Suh occupying several blockers and the LBs making tackles 10 yrds downfield on a running play.
lol so the coaches sucked last year excuse works for a d linemen but not the qb. ok sure why the hell not
It works for everyone, the coaches had no idea how to put the players in a situation to succeed.
steve
and i am with you there, the whole organization sucked last year. but i dont hold out much hope suh or anything will be different this year. i bought into offseason hype 20 years ago, but now i just expect them to suck
Straight outta Compton?
Why should he save his comp picks, it rains every day this time of year in Miami.
I wish ppl would make up their minds. Did the coaching and offensive scheme suck or didn’t it? Ppl keep saying that but then they say things to support their argument about Tannehill like he threw for over 4,200 yds and completed 62% of his passes and, by the way, did you forget he was top ten in long ball accuracy too at 43%? Then you point out things like the fact that he completed 48% of his passes from 11-20 yds and that’s got to be better in order to move the ball consistently and ppl say “well, with the shit o-line he had he didn’t have the time to make those throws and he was constantly under pressure”.
But, you just told me he completed 20 of 50 passes beyond 20 yds which means he had to have time to make THOSE throws and you’re telling me he was top 10 in the league completing 43% of those long ball throws BUT he didn’t have the time to make the throws from 11-20 yds.
So, the coaching and offensive scheme sucked but Tannehill was able to overcome that horrible coaching and offensive scheme to put up those numbers; the coaches had NOTHING to do with his development over the past 4 yrs. He did it all on his own. And, he had the pass protection to complete the long passes but not the shorter ones. Interesting.
Stats Schmats Lou. A lot of garbage yards and not enough points when it mattered. RT started off fairly decent, then he got Philbined.
Last year was the only year he failed to improve, factor in all that went wrong with the team, how can you put it all on Tannehill? The persons who should get blamed have been fired. Why do people want to throw everything out with the trash when you have a young QB who is still a top 15 -20 and has the potential (with good coaching) to get better.
I’m in the group that wants Tannehill to stay, but thinks he must improve for us to reach the playoffs. It would take something drastic for me to say kick him to the curb. Now if Doughty comes in and lights it up…
It’s amazing what Suh does even though he is 2x and 3x teamed. He had his second most productive season last year despite the special attention he received. 1st ballot HOF. He helped the rookie phillips, who showed great improvment at the end of season after he changed his pre snap stance similar to Suh’s. I would not surprised if Phillips makes pro bowl next season.
maybe he can do this with a 6 or 7 rounder.
8 Most vulnerable division winners:
5) New England Patriots
Biggest threat in the AFC East: Buffalo Bills
The Patriots’ spot here is based almost entirely on the four-game suspension Tom Brady is expected to serve to start the season — if not for that, they’d definitely be No. 8 on this list. They do catch a break in that three of their first four games are at home, though they have to go to Arizona to open the season. Dion Lewis (who went on injured reserve in early November) should be back, while Martellus Bennett was added to an aerial attack that already included premier tight end Rob Gronkowski and receiver Julian Edelman. Also, the team brought back retired offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia to fix a troublesome unit that was bedeviled by injuries in 2015. Backup quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo simply hasn’t played very much, making him hard to evaluate — meaning there will be a relative wild card under center for the first quarter of the season.
This is another division that made improvements from top to bottom, with three potential challengers to the Pats. The Bills did a lot to help themselves, extending left tackle Cordy Glenn and coming away with an impressive draft haul. Still, Brady or no, it’s not wise to bet against Bill Belichick, who simply finds ways to win. I expect New England to ultimately capture its eighth consecutive division title.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000661070/article/broncos-texans-among-most-vulnerable-division-winners
The cheats at 5 is about right, and I guess you have to say Buffalo is the top challenger, because of the Jets QB situation. I don’t agree with Buffalo improving. Extending Cordy isn’t an improvement he was there last year dumbass, and both Ragland and Lawson are slow run defenders.
I think they meant keeping Glenn, as opposed to losing him.